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Conspiracy Theorists, Bloggers Compared To ISIS During Congressional Hearing

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Submitted by Paul Joseph Watson via PrisonPlanet.com,

Bloggers, conspiracy theorists and people who challenge establishment narratives on the Internet were all likened to ISIS terrorists during a chilling Congressional hearing which took place yesterday.

The hearing, hosted by the House Foreign Relations Committee, was titled “Confronting Russia’s Weaponization of Information,” and accused Russian state broadcaster RT of weaponizing “conspiracy theories” to spread propaganda.

One of the speakers giving testimony was former RT host Liz Wahl, who made a public spectacle of quitting Russian state media last year in an incident stage-managed by neo-con James Kirchick, himself a former employee of Radio Free Europe – a state media outlet.

Remarking that the Internet provided a platform for “fringe voices and extremists,” Wahl characterized people who challenge establishment narratives as a “cult”.

“They mobilize and they feel they’re part of some enlightened fight against the establishment….they find a platform to voice their deranged views,” said Wahl.

Referring to comments made in January by US Broadcasting Board of Governors (BBG) chief Andrew Lack, who characterized RT as a threat on the same level as ISIS and Boko Haram, Wahl said the comparison was justified.

“By using the Internet to mobilize people that feel displaced, that feel like they’ve been on the outskirts of society, and give them a place where they can find a sense of belonging, and maybe make a difference in their own way, and it’s a problem,” she said.

Wahl went on to bemoan the fact that conspiracy theorists were “shaping the discussion online, on message boards, on Twitter, on social media,” before asserting that the web had become a beacon of “disinformation, false theories, people that are just trying to make a name for themselves, bloggers or whatever, that have absolutely no accountability for the truth, that are able to rile up a mass amount of people online.”

Committee Chairman Ed Royce then proceeded to accuse people on YouTube of using “raw violence” to advance conspiracy theories.

Peter Pomerantsev, of the London-based Legatum Institute, followed up by claiming that conspiracy theories were no longer “fringe” and were now driving the success of Jean-Marie Le Pen in France, before lamenting the fact that conspiracy theories were challenging the “global order” and threatening to undermine global institutions.

All three individuals that gave testimony are staunch critics of Russia, leading Rep. Dana Rohrabacher (R-CA) to wish “we had at least one other person to balance out this in a way that perhaps could’ve compared our system to the Russian system, to find out where that truth is, just how bad that is.”

Beyond the inflammatory rhetoric, the real story revolves around the fact that Washington was caught off guard by the rapid growth of RT, with Hillary Clinton and others having acknowledged the fact that the U.S. is “losing the information war,” which is why they are now desperately trying to denigrate the Russian broadcaster.

Without a doubt, RT puts out pro-Russian propaganda, but it also broadcasts truths about geopolitics and U.S. foreign policy that Americans will never see on mainstream corporate networks, precisely because those networks are also engaged in propaganda.

There’s no mystery behind why RT has become so big – telling the truth is popular – but because Washington finds it impossible to compete on that basis, it has been forced to resort to ad hominem attacks and ludicrous comparisons to ISIS in a desperate bid to level the playing field.

As linguist Noam Chomsky said, “The idea that there should be a network reaching people, which does not repeat the US propaganda system, is intolerable” to the US establishment.

 

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Fri, 04/17/2015 - 04:43 | 6002115 Equality 7-25-1
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Thats antisemitic.

Fri, 04/17/2015 - 10:34 | 6002880 Agstacker
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Lets also not forget how many people the government has charged-and put in jail-for conspiracy.  I find it interesting that if you don't believe the official story you're a 'conspiracy theorist' but when they want to jail somebody on conspiracy charges it's no longer a theory.

Thu, 04/16/2015 - 22:46 | 6001597 JuliaS
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I consider myself a conspiracy factologist.

Thu, 04/16/2015 - 22:50 | 6001617 Lost Word
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Conspiracy History Historian

Fri, 04/17/2015 - 01:42 | 6001944 scaleindependent
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Conspiracy Eschatologist myself.

Fri, 04/17/2015 - 05:07 | 6002132 luckylongshot
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The government is basically saying they are dishonest and object to having their lies exposed. If they were honest and did not lie this discussion would never have taken place.

Thu, 04/16/2015 - 19:30 | 6000860 Sinnedi
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Zionism is so pushed by the CIA that a person got tazed when asking about secret societies.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6bVa6jn4rpE

You are pushing propaganda to lead us to WW3 which is muslims vs jews vs christians

Which I am not going to be a part of

I am going  for the secret societies who think they can mass kill off millions of people and get away with it.

 

Also 

When touching on such themes, Reagan echoed the work, and sometimes the phrasing, of occult scholar Manly P. Hall.

From the dawn of Hall’s career in the early 1920s until his death in 1990, the Los Angeles teacher wrote about America’s “secret destiny.” The United States, in Hall’s view, was a society that had been planned and founded by secret esoteric orders to spread enlightenment and liberty to the world.

In 1928, Hall attained underground fame when, at the remarkably young age of twenty-seven, he published “The Secret Teachings of All Ages,” a massive codex to the mystical and esoteric philosophies of antiquity. Exploring subjects from Native American mythology to Pythagorean mathematics to the geometry of ancient Egypt, thisencyclopedia arcana remains the unparalleled guidebook to ancient symbols and esoteric thought. “The Secret Teachings” won the admiration of figures ranging from General John Pershing to Elvis Presley. Novelist Dan Brown cites it as a key source.

Thu, 04/16/2015 - 21:26 | 6001339 Lost Word
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Some people suggest Sir Francis Bacon was the founder of the Rosicrucians and modern Freemasonry.

If I recall correctly, Francis Bacon was a student of John Dee, the famous scholar and occultist who advocated New World colonization for England.

Sir Francis Bacon was a London member of the Virginia Company which planted the Virginia colony.

At least one writer suggested that Sir Francis Bacon faked his death in England and went to Virginia (taking the original "Shakespeare" manuscripts which Francis Bacon had written).

Thu, 04/16/2015 - 22:44 | 6001599 conscious being
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Disturbing video. The most disturbing part is that no one will help him. The spineless chimps sit around looking scared and smirking.

Thu, 04/16/2015 - 23:17 | 6001690 Jack Burton
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Indeed! What I hate more than any government outrage, are the fucking scared monkies standing by and doing fuck all to help. The government  should fear US, not us them! If you live in a state where people fear the government, and the government has no fear of the people, then it is the people's own fault. Isn't it.

Fucking cowards stand by and do nothing!

Thu, 04/16/2015 - 21:16 | 6001306 Missmarfac
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Obviously, alot of you birther, truther, conspiracy theory nitwits are also  thin-skinned.  You can dish it out but you can't it.

Even elected officials and bureacrats have constitutional rights.  Deal with it.

Fri, 04/17/2015 - 00:29 | 6001826 Oldwood
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We are a sensitive lot as we have become tuned to the detection of bulshit as well as criticism. We like to think of it as fight club, but of course in the movie Tyler is basically beating the crap out of himself most of the time. The important thing is that while we may disagree and disparage, we have no means to destroy our opposition like the government, the media and the corporatists do. No matter what you may think of the tin foil hat club, it is not we who are actively trying to stop free speech at every opportunity.

Fri, 04/17/2015 - 10:46 | 6002917 SofaPapa
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Missing the point entirely.

When we exercise what was once (by our founding documents) understood as a divine right - which is very different from a constitutional right, think about it..., we are acting as individuals, with no intent to limit others from exercising that same right.

When these assholes in government are talking, they intend to use their power to stop individuals like us from exercising our right to argue with them.  They intend to change the situation.  They hate free speech, because it scares them.

There could not be a bigger difference.

Thu, 04/16/2015 - 21:40 | 6001395 BullyBearish
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They just don't get it...they create EVERYTHING: conflict in the Middle East, conflict in Ukraine, conspiracy theories at home, ISIS/Al Quaeda/bombers/foreign terrorists/domestic terrorists/baby killers in Gaza/retribution Christian killers...all in the name of earthly power with nothing Godly about it

Thu, 04/16/2015 - 19:24 | 6000847 williambanzai7
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Thu, 04/16/2015 - 19:28 | 6000871 Smuckers
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I was thinking the Donald Sutherland pose during Invasion of the Body Snatchers would work nicely here.

Thu, 04/16/2015 - 20:31 | 6001123 mt paul
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loose blogs

sinking lie

dies

Thu, 04/16/2015 - 21:53 | 6001439 lakecity55
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"loose blogs sink Progs."

Thu, 04/16/2015 - 19:30 | 6000880 BaghdadBob
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What ceases to amaze me is how rapidly the U.S. is hurtling down the path to open Totalinarism. Also, one has to hand it to both of the two families you guys are going to get to vote for next year. They don't fuck about!

In the words of the men of Sparta - "I'm a Conspiracy Theorist!".

Thu, 04/16/2015 - 19:38 | 6000909 SmedleyButlersGhost
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OK - just for grins - I'm going to say that the Spartans didn't say that. Maybe but I don't think so

Thu, 04/16/2015 - 19:59 | 6000991 knukles
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True.  The Sparatans said that their Alienware had more processing power than Xerxes' Alienware.

Thu, 04/16/2015 - 20:03 | 6001007 SmedleyButlersGhost
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I get the Trojans and Spartans mixed up. Just ask my kids

Thu, 04/16/2015 - 20:24 | 6001081 Crawdaddy
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thats an lol

Thu, 04/16/2015 - 20:27 | 6001086 knukles
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Very good!

Next testiclemony in the House. 

https://video.search.yahoo.com/video/play;_ylt=AwrTcd6SUjBVPGMAzkonnIlQ;...

Shades of Joe McCarthey

 

OH and PS  Now Hillensrath says that maybe the data's too weak for a mid-year Fed lift-off.
Somebody should get a brass cock ring award for all this.

Thu, 04/16/2015 - 20:16 | 6001055 Jendrzejczyk
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That never ceases to amaze me, Robert.

Thu, 04/16/2015 - 20:26 | 6001095 mt paul
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comment removed by DHS

pending review by NSA...

Thu, 04/16/2015 - 20:35 | 6001145 BullyBearish
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What!...The emporer has no clothes???  I didn't say that!

Thu, 04/16/2015 - 21:36 | 6001368 Vullsain
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Fuck Those Fucking Fuckers. Fuck this Fucking Pisses Me Fucking Off!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!                                                                                                                       

Thu, 04/16/2015 - 21:43 | 6001399 Vullsain
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Before I die these bastards will censor free expression on the internet using PC doublespeak and national security Patriot Act nationalistic propaganda, I wish I could tear their heads off and piss down their fucking throats!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Fri, 04/17/2015 - 09:34 | 6002647 thetruthhurts
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Tell us how you really feel...

Fri, 04/17/2015 - 01:43 | 6001945 Weaponized Innocense
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Which hand(s)? The hands that don't know what the other hands are doing ?
Like the hand that must have deleted hillaries server the second the request was made by the court of law to hand it over
or those other hands she dint have in email accounts the other hands know about?

Hillary hit her head real bad!
Poor Hillary ~ (jack Nicholson mental image)

Fri, 04/17/2015 - 01:46 | 6001948 Weaponized Innocense
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All the hands in ur pockets? Showing u magic tricks while they steal ur wallet.

Fri, 04/17/2015 - 01:49 | 6001952 Weaponized Innocense
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I was posting to a post that said Iove it when the giv show it's hand but my post posted elsewhere

Fri, 04/17/2015 - 08:51 | 6002515 thetruthhurts
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Da bitch should stick to the teleprompter.....Does about as good as Obama trying to talk on his own....

Fri, 04/17/2015 - 10:17 | 6002814 glenlloyd
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With so many conspiracy theories now becoming conspiracy facts it's really difficult to take the US .gov at face value when they tell you anything.

Perhaps instead of complaining about all the conspiracty theories they ought to think about less of a liar more of the time.

I find that liars pretty quickly lose their credibility and it's very difficult to get it back. Why .gov doesn't think the same thing happens to them (because they lie a lot) is beyond me.

Lack of trust comes to mind...

Thu, 04/16/2015 - 19:06 | 6000767 Meat Hammer
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They hate us for our freedom. No, really, they do.

Thu, 04/16/2015 - 19:39 | 6000911 MonetaryApostate
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Amexica has freedom?

Thu, 04/16/2015 - 20:49 | 6001202 mt paul
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they hate us 

for our 100 $ bills..

Fri, 04/17/2015 - 10:48 | 6002930 SofaPapa
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+1

Control freaks hate freedom.  It's what makes them control freaks.  How hard is that to understand?

Thu, 04/16/2015 - 19:13 | 6000771 JustObserving
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Conspiracy Theorists, Bloggers Compared To ISIS

Truth be told:

ISIS: The jihadist movement stamped “Made in America

https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2014/07/30/isis-j30.html

The idea that there should be a network reaching people, which does not repeat the US propaganda system, is intolerable

"The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media." -- William Colby, former CIA Director

Thu, 04/16/2015 - 21:59 | 6001388 ZerOhead
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Who was unquestionably murdered shortly before he could testify yet again before Congress about something extremely important...

http://mccluresmagazine.com/history/who-killed-william-colby

Probably having something to do with Kay Griggs who was saved by Sarah McClendon Senoir Whitehouse Press corps reporter since she talked to her good friend Colby just a few weeks before about...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b4kFYg1A6uo

Jeff Rense interview with the amazing & brave women Kay Griggs. The former marine colonel's wife. talks about military assassin squads, drug running, illegal weapon deals and sexual perversion deep within the highest levels worldwide, including FALSE FLAG operations.

This is the most mind blowing and disgusting video on the internet today if what she says is true.

Thu, 04/16/2015 - 22:38 | 6001572 WillyGroper
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take in all 11 hrs of her audio.

gets read good from where she copied her husband's diary & speaks of electronic warfare and single women being their first & easiest targets.

FORWARD Cherry Marines from Princeton.

Thu, 04/16/2015 - 23:07 | 6001652 ZerOhead
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I doubt that 1 in 100 people here know what kind of complete psychopaths run the show. The CHERRY MARINES and rampant homosexuality... Heinz Kissinger, Oli North... Ron Brown with the bullet in the back of the head and the flight attendant that survived the crash and was murdered. Waco was a live fire exercise... Jesus Christ.

I only could listen for about a hour or two... my head was spinning and that takes a lot for someone like me.

Fri, 04/17/2015 - 08:52 | 6002517 thetruthhurts
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That sounds like a conspiracy!

Thu, 04/16/2015 - 19:07 | 6000774 Gmacks
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I can't believe they didn't mention ZH

Thu, 04/16/2015 - 19:34 | 6000896 Weaponized Innocense
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Oh it was indirectly referenced along with the chompsky shit....
Yea whatever so they all want us and yet they dint..... Lol

Thu, 04/16/2015 - 19:45 | 6000934 Weaponized Innocense
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And because Kiki and lover patented and the passion assassins want to pimp u out all warlord against each other no matter what u believe.... Anyway these words r so Kiki evil voodoo dollhouse where dolls shouldn't talk back as truths too evil to be spoken where lies must destroy all things in Kiki's evil voodoo dollhouse where ur mocked just to be her living dead play toy

Thu, 04/16/2015 - 19:57 | 6000974 Supernova Born
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First they came for RT...

Thu, 04/16/2015 - 20:29 | 6001114 knukles
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And Vlad kicked their butts back to the Stone Age

Thu, 04/16/2015 - 19:08 | 6000775 stant
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Depends on what the definition of is,is

Thu, 04/16/2015 - 19:11 | 6000789 SmedleyButlersGhost
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Good one . We can start the cult rumor that ISIS was named as an inside joke on their boy Bill. Brilliant and well spotted

If they ask - you don't know me

Thu, 04/16/2015 - 19:12 | 6000795 MonetaryApostate
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israel secret international service....  (Just a wild guess)

Thu, 04/16/2015 - 20:57 | 6001236 HyperinflatmyNutts
Thu, 04/16/2015 - 19:10 | 6000779 Smuckers
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I blame my mother.  As a child she ingrained in me something about not joining everyone else that just jumped off a bridge.  And what difference does it make?

Thu, 04/16/2015 - 20:12 | 6001042 shovelhead
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I got in trouble for being the kid that pushed the other kids off the bridge.

Thu, 04/16/2015 - 19:10 | 6000780 MonetaryApostate
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It's pretty clear why they gave Hillary the dossier on this one....

(It's real, they are losing, and they can't do anything about it either!)

Thu, 04/16/2015 - 19:48 | 6000949 Supernova Born
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WHAT DIFFERENCE DOES IT MAKE?!

Thu, 04/16/2015 - 19:10 | 6000781 wendigo
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During dinner tonight at the mental instution I'm a guest of, I got asked this question: "how do you expect to die?". I looked the guy in the eye and said I expect people like me will die via firing squad, organized by people like you.

 

He didn't know what to say. 

Thu, 04/16/2015 - 19:16 | 6000814 SmedleyButlersGhost
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Cigarette - blindfold?

Thu, 04/16/2015 - 19:35 | 6000903 kaiserhoff
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No thanks,

smoking is bad for my health.

Thu, 04/16/2015 - 19:40 | 6000917 MonetaryApostate
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That's why I smoke, that 2nd hand stuff will kill you....

Thu, 04/16/2015 - 19:41 | 6000923 SmedleyButlersGhost
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So is being blind

Thu, 04/16/2015 - 20:32 | 6001118 knukles
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So I should quit singing "Wankers Away" while I rub my monkey?
Semper Fi

BTW, old Navy joke about Marines: Know whay they don't have goats aboard ships?  They got Marines.

Thu, 04/16/2015 - 19:41 | 6000924 suteibu
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No criticism of the message in your comment, but I couldn't pass up this opportunity to ask a couple follow-up questions, please;

1:  You say you were a "guest" at this mental institution.  Could you define "guest" in this situation as I am sure most of the people in the mental institution consider themselves "guests."

2:  The guy who asked you the question, is he also a "guest" like you?

 

Thanks in advance.  ;)

Thu, 04/16/2015 - 19:47 | 6000942 wendigo
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No problemo.

I'm a 'guest' in the sense that I arrived and was treated on a voluntary basis. Other people were court ordered, dropped offf by the cops, etc. I had to pay for treatment so I wasn't a guest in that sense. I'm actually being discharged tomorrow. 

 

The gentleman in question is a fanatically left wing moron (a 'guest' like myself) who was trying to make conversation. Now, don't get me wrong, the extreme right is insane too. However, the left are better organized, so I fear them more. 

Not that left/right mean anything once you get to the top. They're all on the same side. 

Thu, 04/16/2015 - 19:55 | 6000971 SmedleyButlersGhost
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Oh shit - the Commitee is going to love this

Thu, 04/16/2015 - 19:55 | 6000973 crisrose
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I hope you're on the mend.

Thu, 04/16/2015 - 19:56 | 6000975 suteibu
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Just put you on my favorite's list for that candid answer.  Good luck tomorrow.  Hope to read a lot from you in the future.

Thu, 04/16/2015 - 20:15 | 6001050 shovelhead
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I like to stop in from time to time because I really like the green jello.

Thu, 04/16/2015 - 20:37 | 6001136 knukles
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"Rarely have we see a person fail who has thoroughly followed our path"
Good luck, Amigo

Thu, 04/16/2015 - 21:48 | 6001418 lakecity55
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One day at a time.

Thu, 04/16/2015 - 20:46 | 6001190 agNau
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So wait,
In the "guest house", you are allowed Internet (Zero Hedge even). And out here they want to take ours???

Thu, 04/16/2015 - 21:06 | 6001270 Oldwood
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its probably their homepage.

Thu, 04/16/2015 - 19:49 | 6000955 MonetaryApostate
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This calls for a song....    https://youtu.be/DZUwg5X4Qvg

Thu, 04/16/2015 - 20:20 | 6001073 Jendrzejczyk
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Are you allowed visitors?

ZH roadtrip anyone?

Thu, 04/16/2015 - 20:27 | 6001094 Jendrzejczyk
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wtf

Thu, 04/16/2015 - 19:10 | 6000784 davidalan1
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THEM vs. US  equal to King George residing in the homeland and having subjects. No wonder they are loading up with ammo

Thu, 04/16/2015 - 19:13 | 6000801 unicorn
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are you shure you re talking about the USA and not NORTH KOREA?!?

Thu, 04/16/2015 - 19:14 | 6000803 Incubus
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"Thoughtcrime does not entail death: thoughtcrime is death."

 

 

Thu, 04/16/2015 - 19:15 | 6000805 tarabel
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RT-- the NBC of Russia. 

Thu, 04/16/2015 - 19:16 | 6000806 tarabel
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In every country around the world, the story is the same.

 

If you want to find out what is really happening at home, you have to consult with foreign news sources.

Thu, 04/16/2015 - 19:17 | 6000817 SmedleyButlersGhost
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Suppose I'm not at home?

Thu, 04/16/2015 - 19:24 | 6000850 A Lunatic
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Try Miss Cleo.......

Thu, 04/16/2015 - 19:41 | 6000914 tarabel
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Hey, the lights were on. What were we supposed to think?

Thu, 04/16/2015 - 19:49 | 6000952 SmedleyButlersGhost
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That was good

Thu, 04/16/2015 - 19:24 | 6000843 MonetaryApostate
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Yes & No, there are some bloggers who actually know what they are talking about, but not all of them, and that's because you need to have a very crystal clear vision of who runs the world, what the bible says will happen, and many other things, all of which are compounded understandings which lead to the greater realization & wisdom found all around us (e.g. the truth).

Thu, 04/16/2015 - 21:46 | 6001410 Lost Word
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The Bible says Israel will rule the World.

So why are the Jews trying to destroy Bible Christianity?

True Christians believe Christianity has inherited the promises of the Bible for Israel.

Jews don't wish for competition.

British-Israelism taught that Britain is the NEW Israel.

However, in my interpretation of the Book of Revelation,

the United States is the NEW Israel of prophecy.

Fri, 04/17/2015 - 07:11 | 6002270 Boxed Merlot
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The Bible says Israel will rule the World...

 

 

The Christians living in Nero's Rome were told " But of Israel he says, “All day long I have held out my hands to a disobedient and contrary people", "not all who are descended from Israel belong to Israel" and " there is no distinction between Jew and Greek”.

British-Israel / US-Israel / ___-Israel is all a crock.  The Powerscourt Conferences in the 1830s were a seedbed of demonic tongue speaking interpretations of otherwise sound biblical prophecy.  "Silent Rapture", physical Jerusalem millennial reigning, animal sacrificing worshippers are at complete odds with true, historic Christianity and should be exposed for the lying, destructive and misleading of many otherwise faithful, moral and joyous Christians.

No prophecy is meant for individual interpretation, and I for one will take pleasure in ridiculing this blight on Christianity every chance I get.

 

Jmo.


Thu, 04/16/2015 - 19:16 | 6000812 Smiley
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Rejecting the spoon-fed narrative will get you water-boarded these days; you have been warned.

Signing up for a Critical Thinking course will get you a one way ticket to KAMP FEMA.

Thu, 04/16/2015 - 19:17 | 6000815 adr
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Practically everything I have been talking about for twenty years has come to pass. Things people called me crazy for saying are now open knowledge and passed off as no big deal.

Man I remember when I said on Yahoo Finance in 2006 that the Fed was buying stocks to goose the market and hedge funds were manipulating commodities. I was called a crackpot tin foil wearing conspiracy theorist. 

They want to silence the truth. The badge of conspiracy theorist means you are on to something.

Thu, 04/16/2015 - 19:29 | 6000873 SmedleyButlersGhost
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Not to worry on the 20 year head start. As my Dad always told me..."son, you'll find that the older you get - the smarter I'll get". Wise man

Fri, 04/17/2015 - 06:45 | 6002217 eddiebe
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Yup, ultimately it seems like where this is going is how many goons that the elite is paying for will keep doing their dirty work, because 'we the people' just don't have it together enough to stand up to TPTB. I'm starting to feel very vulnerable speaking out.

Thu, 04/16/2015 - 19:18 | 6000820 sapioplex
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Good luck trying to control the masses when you've given the masses the commoditized ability to maximize arbitrary global intercommunication.

Thu, 04/16/2015 - 19:59 | 6000969 MonetaryApostate
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For now, but what I see is an actual secret move to lock it all down hella tight, and that mean you will only be using NSA approved censorship software, period.  Should you be one of the foolish rebels who thinks that they can just say what they want against the establishment will find their system bricked in a second... (Doh!)  Not to mention the identity crisis (e.g. implant chips) that will ensure they know exactly who you are and where you are, so they can dismiss you the next morning at work... (DOH!)

Thu, 04/16/2015 - 19:19 | 6000825 European American
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The nature of Darkness is to hide where it believes the Light can't go. Fortunately, we can venture into their vile, cavernous dens, as long as we have sufficient "energy" to run our flashLights. Power Up folks, it is our destiny to ferret them out. This is no drill!

Thu, 04/16/2015 - 19:27 | 6000859 Incubus
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Please spare the light/dark paradigm.

 

I'm a dark soul myself--but guess who's side I'm on?  While you light-attuned fuckers are pontificating about your purity and spiritual cleanliness, guess who's going to be making the hard decisions and doing the dirty work that needs to be done?

 

 

Thu, 04/16/2015 - 19:33 | 6000891 SmedleyButlersGhost
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I'll go with The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen but if you make it multiple choice I'll try again

Thu, 04/16/2015 - 20:21 | 6001077 shovelhead
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"The world is a dirty hamster cage and I've got the clean woodshavings."

Use your best Ahhnold voice.

Thu, 04/16/2015 - 19:20 | 6000828 Saucy-Jack
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Reality based politics...ha ha ha.

Thu, 04/16/2015 - 19:25 | 6000851 MonetaryApostate
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Say, that's an oxymoron.. :D

Thu, 04/16/2015 - 19:21 | 6000833 williambanzai7
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Red White and Blue Dingbat

Thu, 04/16/2015 - 19:22 | 6000835 MsCreant
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Sad and obvious that they are in trouble. If the conspiracy theorists are wrong, write articles an why they are wrong and use facts to make your case. If you need to censor instead of engaging in debate, that means you are stupid, or your team is wrong, or worse, lying. 

Vampires and other blood suckers can't stand the light of day.

I would never try to censor them.

Thu, 04/16/2015 - 19:30 | 6000878 nmewn
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Correct, never go for the censor button, let em ramble on for a while and they'll always go exactly where they intended to go everytime ;-)

Thu, 04/16/2015 - 20:30 | 6001105 Atomizer
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Google filtering will set them straight. 

/sarc 

Thu, 04/16/2015 - 20:45 | 6001175 knukles
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Paine and Pierce and Robespierre, Juarez and Danton,
Luther, King and Lumumba dead but far from gone
Lenin, Cleaver, Jesus too, outlaws in their nations,
Revolutionaries all, dreamed of liberation

God is up in heaven his agents here on earth
The church has said that this man rules, he's best because of birth.
But what's that noise down in the street, who dares to shout and sing?
With all his courtiers at his side, who dares to touch the king?

Old man get some soldiers, keep them close at hand
There's a fire in the country, there's a flame come to the land
Seven thousand loyal troops, in ranks they stretch so far
With seven thousand well armed men, no one can touch the czar.

Louis watch the prisons, send the goons around
Is that Paris burning, is the Bastille falling down?
And where are all the mercenaries - paid for by the king?
Have they joined the mob you say, doesn't money mean anything?

Old men get some soldiers, keep them close at hand,
The seeds that were sown yesterday now flower in the land
And guard yourself most carefully with military might.
For plants that cannot bloom by day must flower in the night.

                   Flowers in the Night
                             - Jack Traylor
                   thank you to Gracie Slick & Jefferson Starship

 

Thu, 04/16/2015 - 21:12 | 6001260 Government need...
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Damn, Grace had some almighty pipes.  Had to youtube her @ Woodstock belting out 'Somebody to Love'.  The real mind-blower was her improv.  Today's starlets better recognize.  They got nothin' compared to Grace.

Thu, 04/16/2015 - 21:53 | 6001434 Lost Word
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Except that according to Baigent et al

and Dan Brown,

the Kings of Europe are bloodline descended from Jesus.

Divine right to rule, etcetera.

Fri, 04/17/2015 - 00:34 | 6001834 Proofreder
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Should one want to hear 

the lyric accompanied by music ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C5-l3OjTH-8

Thu, 04/16/2015 - 21:50 | 6001425 Lost Word
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Boycott Google.

Fri, 04/17/2015 - 02:06 | 6001972 scaleindependent
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One of my favorite quotes regarding truth:

 

“Let her and Falsehood grapple; who ever knew Truth put to the worse in a free and open encounter?” 
John MiltonAreopagitica

Thu, 04/16/2015 - 19:23 | 6000836 BrosephStiglitz
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You know.. it's probably true what they are saying in Congress.. It would be naive to believe that the Russian media outlets don't have an agenda...

...BUT if you bury or misrepresent the truth, you provide a forum for your opponents to spin, or lie, about events.  It's that simple.  Stop bullshitting and lying to your people.  Start acting like elected representatives. The problem will solve itself.

Thu, 04/16/2015 - 20:10 | 6001034 El Vaquero
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Yes, because when we figure out that they're compulsive liars, we have to start filling in the gaps ourselves.  Some will dig deeper than others, some will come up with something resembling the truth and others will come up with wacky stuff that doesn't look so wacky the more they lie to us. 

Thu, 04/16/2015 - 19:22 | 6000837 stant
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Well the Mack daddy said that without a level of trust there would be trouble . He was right

Fri, 04/17/2015 - 02:10 | 6001975 scaleindependent
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And you cant have trust when you have been bankstered and lied to.

Thu, 04/16/2015 - 19:22 | 6000838 rsnoble
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Is there something in those 432 pages that says they can block RT from US net users? I bet there is.

Are these people stupid enough to do it?  I bet they are.

Will this backfire and lead to even more distrust and draconian measures?  Most certainly.

Thu, 04/16/2015 - 19:31 | 6000863 MonetaryApostate
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The elite use justification (why) for what they do, it's all a charade & a masquerade essentially, and I for one will be glad when the mask come off...  (As we were promised by Anonymous?)

Thu, 04/16/2015 - 19:22 | 6000842 rsnoble
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Liar liar pants on fire!!

Thu, 04/16/2015 - 19:25 | 6000852 williambanzai7
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Thu, 04/16/2015 - 22:46 | 6001607 WillyGroper
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you're a scream...

LOL

Thu, 04/16/2015 - 19:25 | 6000853 blindman
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avoiding the speaking of the truth is the high art
of politics, thereby creating the vacuum which man
attempts to fill with religion, philosophy and science.
it would be much easier to just tell the truth.
anyway ^ tm

Thu, 04/16/2015 - 19:34 | 6000898 MonetaryApostate
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Political science is the art of telling the derps they are going to hell and making sure they look forward to the trip....

(You ought to see Wiki's explanation of it...)

Thu, 04/16/2015 - 19:26 | 6000857 22winmag
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What do you call tens of millions of heavily armed and pissed off citizens of the Republic?

 

Answer: the largest army on Earth.

Thu, 04/16/2015 - 19:36 | 6000902 MonetaryApostate
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NBC warfare means absolutely nothing to the Amexica I take it?

Thu, 04/16/2015 - 21:57 | 6001450 Lost Word
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What was that Vietnam quote?

We must destroy this village in order to save it?

Thu, 04/16/2015 - 19:32 | 6000886 silentboom
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These mainstream scum and their ilk are so convinced that their view of reality is correct and the alternative views are to be abolished.  These people are terribly dangerous and they are on the move right now.

Thu, 04/16/2015 - 19:32 | 6000888 A Lunatic
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Fuck Thought Police EVERYWHERE....!

Thu, 04/16/2015 - 19:37 | 6000904 blindman
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well said.

Thu, 04/16/2015 - 19:34 | 6000897 Exit through th...
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DerangedViewsBlog.com <-------- This!!!

Thu, 04/16/2015 - 19:37 | 6000905 George Washington
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Former RT host Abby Martin said recently that RT is obviously pro-Russia propaganda, but it is a great news source on many issues other than Russia.

In other words, you'll hear alot of facts you won't hear on American MSM ... but take everything RT says about Russia with a grain of salt...

Thu, 04/16/2015 - 20:11 | 6001038 Anunnaki
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What do you make of the New York Times? They sold us on the 2003 Iraq war

Thu, 04/16/2015 - 20:43 | 6001177 George Washington
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Yes, absolutely.

Thu, 04/16/2015 - 20:47 | 6001195 knukles
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NYT is the Official Arm of the Progressive Column of the NWO, Democratic Party, USA, aka Propaganda Outlet

Thu, 04/16/2015 - 19:38 | 6000906 Seasmoke
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One step ahead of the crowd , you are a genius. Two steps ahead, a crackpot. 

Thu, 04/16/2015 - 20:48 | 6001199 knukles
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Crazy man with money is an eccentric

Thu, 04/16/2015 - 19:44 | 6000915 MASTER OF UNIVERSE
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This is just PSYOPS scare tactics not unlike the McCarthy era of wackjobs that labelled everyone a pinkO commie bastard, Dr. Chomsky. Frankly, ISIS is headed by two extremely disturbed retired US ARMY Generals that are veterans of Psychological Operations straight out of the Vietnam War. In brief, the mentally disturbed pathologically demented nutbar/wackjobs that inform Congressional debate can kiss my ass because they are all FASCIST pigs in need of slaughter en masse, motherfuckers.

 

NOTE: Don't make me come over there and smack you all upside your head, America, I'm not in the mood.

Thu, 04/16/2015 - 20:08 | 6001026 CourtJester
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Far be it for me to post en masse' but I had to on this one.

First off, McCarthy was right.  There were a number of subversives that had placed themselves in positions of power and were of Communist sympathies.  It's even worse now, but who am I to argue when the typical American could give two craps when Idol or Dancing or *insert pacifier/binkie here* is on and their EBT cards are topped off.

Second, the claim about PSY OP ex Gens is exactly the kind of Bravo Sierra that they're talking about in this article.  Do you have any information to back up the claim?

 

Not arguing that they don't have some wackjobs informing them, and certainly not arguing they aren't fascist pigs...but come on now?  Play right into their hands about who/what they're talking about?

Thu, 04/16/2015 - 20:54 | 6001222 MASTER OF UNIVERSE
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If you want to read up on 'subversives' just Google the names you will find on this article.

 

http://beforeitsnews.com/eu/2014/10/senior-commander-of-isis-is-retired-...

 

Do some research, eh.

Thu, 04/16/2015 - 22:45 | 6001601 ZerOhead
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Very disturbing allegation  considering it's specificity.

I think we all know what ISIS is and who's idea it was and who is funding and training it but one needs to be sure before statements like this are made... true or not.

http://www.republicoftheunitedstates.org/faqs/why-is-general-vallely-con...

Thu, 04/16/2015 - 23:23 | 6001700 MASTER OF UNIVERSE
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The allegation has validity if you actually research who these individuals are aside from visiting a Government run propaganda website that paints these individuals out to be 'Patriots'. That website you listed is an apologist's joke. I have read your stuff numerous times ZerOhead, and you are not this gullible to believe a US Government website IMHO. You know Zerohedge is about intellectual honesty yet you reference a less than honest website with regard to the retired fuckup of a USA ARMY General in question. Please take a closer look at the two generals mentioned in the article and surf the web to see what kind of demented stuff they have on-line with regard to their collective historiographies. In brief, do some digging and you will be disgusted by what you find I guarantee it. Further, I read the article you directed me to, but one of the links has been disabled on it. I get your point about verification, but I have already conducted indepth research of which I can't really start discussing on Z/H due to the fact of the NSA/US ARMY PSYOPS that surf Z/H on a regular basis. cheers

Thu, 04/16/2015 - 19:40 | 6000916 black calx
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“We’ll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false.” - William Casey, CIA Director 1981-1987 

Thu, 04/16/2015 - 19:42 | 6000918 SMC
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Weaponization of Information

Translation: The Truth Hurts

"Just Us" knows they are going to get their collective asses kicked unless they convince a lot of pawns to stand up and fight to protect them and their "Just Us, Above the Law and Constitution" way of life.

 

Thu, 04/16/2015 - 22:55 | 6001624 Kirk2NCC1701
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Note that they coined that phrase, which implies a number of things:

A. That it's a concept they've been discussing or working on for a while 

B. That they hate competition in all spheres, as it affects their Full Spectrum Dominance.  Which is another buzzword they've coined and fully embraced in their annual budgets. 

Fri, 04/17/2015 - 05:28 | 6002155 Ghordius
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+1 Kirk, but isn't competitiveness a very positive word in the English vocabulary? How about this alternative explanation:

C. America seems to like the memes around "Weaponization of..." because they rhyme with "War on...", which are still positive memes, like "Fight for..." or "Fight against..."

Thu, 04/16/2015 - 19:41 | 6000919 BaghdadBob
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"In a time of universal deceit - telling the truth is a revolutionary act."

- George Orwell.

Thu, 04/16/2015 - 20:01 | 6000921 Aussie V
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Truth has become the new Gold Backed Commodity in this cancerous media controlled world of ours.

It is the enemy of the state and always has been. It is just that the state and western civilization has gone further and further into darkness, that the truth is now becoming a real problem to their status and message to the sheeple.

Some may disagree with me here but that is fine, I find it very interesting that Jesus said clearly numerous times, "I am the Way, the Truth, and the Light" and when referring to the Holy Spirit, he said, "When the Spirit of Truth comes it will lead you in all things"

Truth is spirit that tugs deep within a person while all around them they are being told lies.

Thu, 04/16/2015 - 19:42 | 6000925 Cityzerosix
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there have been no republics since Waterloo; 200th anniversary coming up, hope to see you there; dressed appropriately of course

Thu, 04/16/2015 - 22:06 | 6001470 Lost Word
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The Battle where the Roth-schilds won their early big fortune

betting on the London stock market.

Thu, 04/16/2015 - 19:47 | 6000945 SmedleyButlersGhost
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I looked for it on other posts - but is the phrase more or less used in the title of a Committee "weaponization of information" just plain weird?

Thu, 04/16/2015 - 20:08 | 6001028 blindman
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it is a euphemism for what they once called
propaganda, "weaponized information" is "propaganda".
now, they don't like or use that term anymore
as everyone finally came to the understanding
that all "information" based organisations primarily
deal in "propaganda", that is, selected information
which supports their own survival and interests.
it is just natural, on the biological survival
level of a conceptual strategy and framework,
designed for survival of the structure in that
field of conception, to build and support memes,
arguments and justifications of higher complexity
which are contradictory and self effacing.
as, these buffoons in d.c. can not conceive of themselves
as propagandists, but, revel in the notion that they
are warriors in the information war. (assholes, we used to
call them)
it becomes too complex and hypocritical after a
time so they merely change the term from
"propaganda" to "weaponization of information",
putting simple "perception" into the context of
their dominant meme and theme, that being war;
where their bread is buttered and where the "public"
has been indoctrinated. it makes no sense at all
but who would know the difference in the far flung
idiocracy? power corrupts like this.
.
"When power leads man toward arrogance, poetry reminds him of his limitations. When power narrows the area of man's concern, poetry reminds him of the richness and diversity of existence. When power corrupts, poetry cleanses."
John F. Kennedy
http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/keywords/power_corrupts.html#tAYL92x5g...
.
anyway ...

Thu, 04/16/2015 - 20:30 | 6001119 blindman
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and....
propaganda is, fundamentally, using "information"
to lie. that is the battle hillary refers to
and laments that we are not up to snuff in fighting.
in the clip above she is calling for better lying!
i suppose she should be respected for being
so damn honest about pursuing a career as a superior
liar, and in public. after all, she is a pure bred
politician and lawyer and has sat with Oprah. it is
a money thing as we have all observed.
that first clip of whacos in front of that other
whaco, all dedicated and paid liars on parade in the
hallowed halls where the truth shall never shine by
dictate of formality and protocol. it is a feature,
not a bug.

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