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What Happens If You Defy Curfew: A Shocking 90-Second Clip From The Streets Of Baltimore
Submitted by Mike Krieger via Liberty Blitzkrieg blog,
On Saturday night, a man whose name still seems to be unknown, but who was wearing a “F##k the Police” t-shirt, came out in front of police past the official curfew. This is what happened next:
As Mike noted previously, the situation in Baltimore is very serious and all Americans should be paying very close attention; but Baltimore is just a Microcosm of America.
Baltimore, Maryland is in many ways the perfect microcosm for these United States of America. If you still don’t get that, you’ll be in for a rude awakening in the years ahead.
A gradual erosion of the Constitution and the civil rights of the citizenry, the abuse of power by people in authority, perverse financial incentives that lead to horrible outcomes, zero accountability, and a ubiquitous surveillance state apparatus; Baltimore has it all. Yet all of these troubling traits have also come to characterize early 21st century America.
As tends to be the case, the populations that have been victimized the longest and most systemically — in Baltimore and across the U.S. — are the poor, weak and disenfranchised. Like a cancer, corruption, theft, and blatant abuse of the citizenry by the powerful will spread and spread until it consumes everything unless the tumor is removed. It has now spread so deeply and so dangerously throughout American life, the general public will soon have no choice but to confront it and do something about it, or face a total extinction of opportunity and suffer the same desperate fate as the people out in the streets of Baltimore.
David Simon, creator of the excellent hit HBO series “The Wire,” recently sat down for an interview with former New York Times reporter Bill Keller to explain the situation in Baltimore as he sees it; its origins and what is needed to fix it. As you read, think about the many parallels to the U.S. economy in general; the endless criminal maneuverings within the centers of power in Washington D.C. and Wall Street, the forever spinning revolving door of corruption, the marauding gangs of cronies making impossibly large piles of money based on connections, fraud and rigged markets as opposed to adding value, the idiocy of the war on drugs, the fraudulent accounting, and the overbearing surveillance state. Increasingly, when America looks in the mirror Baltimore and Ferguson are staring right back. We just haven’t admitted it yet.
Now, from the Marshall Project:
Bill Keller: What do people outside the city need to understand about what’s going on there — the death of Freddie Gray and the response to it?
David Simon: I guess there’s an awful lot to understand and I’m not sure I understand all of it. The part that seems systemic and connected is that the drug war — which Baltimore waged as aggressively as any American city — was transforming in terms of police/community relations, in terms of trust, particularly between the black community and the police department. Probable cause was destroyed by the drug war.
Probable cause from a Baltimore police officer has always been a tenuous thing. It’s a tenuous thing anywhere, but in Baltimore, in these high crime, heavily policed areas, it was even worse. When I came on, there were jokes about, “You know what probable cause is on Edmondson Avenue? You roll by in your radio car and the guy looks at you for two seconds too long.” Probable cause was whatever you thought you could safely lie about when you got into district court.
Then at some point when cocaine hit and the city lost control of a lot of corners and the violence was ratcheted up, there was a real panic on the part of the government. And they basically decided that even that loose idea of what the Fourth Amendment was supposed to mean on a street level, even that was too much. Now all bets were off. Now you didn’t even need probable cause. The city council actually passed an ordinance that declared a certain amount of real estate to be drug-free zones. They literally declared maybe a quarter to a third of inner city Baltimore off-limits to its residents, and said that if you were loitering in those areas you were subject to arrest and search. Think about that for a moment: It was a permission for the police to become truly random and arbitrary and to clear streets any way they damn well wanted.
How does race figure into this? It’s a city with a black majority and now a black mayor and black police chief, a substantially black police force.
What did Tom Wolfe write about cops? They all become Irish? That’s a line in “Bonfire of the Vanities.” When Ed and I reported “The Corner,” it became clear that the most brutal cops in our sector of the Western District were black. The guys who would really kick your ass without thinking twice were black officers. If I had to guess and put a name on it, I’d say that at some point, the drug war was as much a function of class and social control as it was of racism. I think the two agendas are inextricably linked, and where one picks up and the other ends is hard to say. But when you have African-American officers beating the dog-piss out of people they’re supposed to be policing, and there isn’t a white guy in the equation on a street level, it’s pretty remarkable. But in some ways they were empowered.
Back then, even before the advent of cell phones and digital cameras — which have been transforming in terms of documenting police violence — back then, you were much more vulnerable if you were white and you wanted to wail on somebody. You take out your nightstick and you’re white and you start hitting somebody, it has a completely different dynamic than if you were a black officer. It was simply safer to be brutal if you were black, and I didn’t know quite what to do with that fact other than report it. It was as disturbing a dynamic as I could imagine. Something had been removed from the equation that gave white officers — however brutal they wanted to be, or however brutal they thought the moment required — it gave them pause before pulling out a nightstick and going at it. Some African American officers seemed to feel no such pause.
This is another fascinating microcosm considering how Barack Obama has done absolutely nothing to help the black community or poor in this country. It took a black President to so shamelessly hand everything to a handful of oligarchs and further oppress black communities.
What the drug war did, though, was make this all a function of social control. This was simply about keeping the poor down, and that war footing has been an excuse for everybody to operate outside the realm of procedure and law.
“The drug war began it, certainly, but the stake through the heart of police procedure in Baltimore was Martin O’Malley.”
In case you aren’t aware, Martin O’Malley was the ambitious Mayor of Baltimore who had his eyes dead set on the Governor’s seat. So much so that he cooked the crime books of Baltimore to create a crime “miracle,” and destroyed city police work in the process. Mr. O’Malley has recently discussed possibly running against Hillary in the 2016 Democrat primary.
But that wasn’t enough. O’Malley needed to show crime reduction stats that were not only improbable, but unsustainable without manipulation. And so there were people from City Hall who walked over Norris and made it clear to the district commanders that crime was going to fall by some astonishing rates. Eventually, Norris got fed up with the interference from City Hall and walked, and then more malleable police commissioners followed, until indeed, the crime rate fell dramatically. On paper.
How? There were two initiatives. First, the department began sweeping the streets of the inner city, taking bodies on ridiculous humbles, mass arrests, sending thousands of people to city jail, hundreds every night, thousands in a month. They actually had police supervisors stationed with printed forms at the city jail – forms that said, essentially, you can go home now if you sign away any liability the city has for false arrest, or you can not sign the form and spend the weekend in jail until you see a court commissioner. And tens of thousands of people signed that form.
Unsurprisingly, the rule of law often dies at the hands of an ambitious politician.
The situation you described has been around for a while. Do you have a sense of why the Freddie Gray death has been such a catalyst for the response we’ve seen in the last 48 hours?
Because the documented litany of police violence is now out in the open. There’s an actual theme here that’s being made evident by the digital revolution. It used to be our word against yours. It used to be said — correctly — that the patrolman on the beat on any American police force was the last perfect tyranny. Absent a herd of reliable witnesses, there were things he could do to deny you your freedom or kick your ass that were between him, you, and the street. The smartphone with its small, digital camera, is a revolution in civil liberties.
In these drug-saturated neighborhoods, they weren’t policing their post anymore, they weren’t policing real estate that they were protecting from crime. They weren’t nurturing informants, or learning how to properly investigate anything. There’s a real skill set to good police work. But no, they were just dragging the sidewalks, hunting stats, and these inner-city neighborhoods — which were indeed drug-saturated because that’s the only industry left — become just hunting grounds. They weren’t protecting anything. They weren’t serving anyone. They were collecting bodies, treating corner folk and citizens alike as an Israeli patrol would treat Gaza, or as the Afrikaners would have treated Soweto back in the day. They’re an army of occupation. And once it’s that, then everybody’s the enemy. The police aren’t looking to make friends, or informants, or learning how to write clean warrants or how to testify in court without perjuring themselves unnecessarily. There’s no incentive to get better as investigators, as cops. There’s no reason to solve crime. In the years they were behaving this way, locking up the entire world, the clearance rate for murder dove by 30 percent. The clearance rate for aggravated assault — every felony arrest rate – took a significant hit. Think about that. If crime is going down, and crime is going down, and if we have less murders than ever before and we have more homicide detectives assigned, and better evidentiary technologies to employ how is the clearance rate for homicide now 48 percent when it used to be 70 percent, or 75 percent?
Because the drug war made cops lazy and less competent?
How do you reward cops? Two ways: promotion and cash. That’s what rewards a cop. If you want to pay overtime pay for having police fill the jails with loitering arrests or simple drug possession or failure to yield, if you want to spend your municipal treasure rewarding that, well the cop who’s going to court 7 or 8 days a month — and court is always overtime pay — you’re going to damn near double your salary every month. On the other hand, the guy who actually goes to his post and investigates who’s burglarizing the homes, at the end of the month maybe he’s made one arrest. It may be the right arrest and one that makes his post safer, but he’s going to court one day and he’s out in two hours. So you fail to reward the cop who actually does police work. But worse, it’s time to make new sergeants or lieutenants, and so you look at the computer and say: Who’s doing the most work? And they say, man, this guy had 80 arrests last month, and this other guy’s only got one. Who do you think gets made sergeant? And then who trains the next generation of cops in how not to do police work? I’ve just described for you the culture of the Baltimore police department amid the deluge of the drug war, where actual investigation goes unrewarded and where rounding up bodies for street dealing, drug possession, loitering such – the easiest and most self-evident arrests a cop can make – is nonetheless the path to enlightenment and promotion and some additional pay. That’s what the drug war built, and that’s what Martin O’Malley affirmed when he sent so much of inner city Baltimore into the police wagons on a regular basis.
So much of what was said there characterizes the perverted culture in Washington D.C. and on Wall Street. People are financially incentivized to commit fraud, crime and deceive customers. Those people are then promoted and train the next class. And the beat goes on…
The second thing Marty did, in order to be governor, involves the stats themselves. In the beginning, under Norris, he did get a better brand of police work and we can credit a legitimate 12 to 15 percent decline in homicides. Again, that was a restoration of an investigative deterrent in the early years of that administration. But it wasn’t enough to declare a Baltimore Miracle, by any means.
What can you do? You can’t artificially lower the murder rate – how do you hide the bodies when it’s the state health department that controls the medical examiner’s office? But the other felony categories? Robbery, aggravated assault, rape? Christ, what they did with that stuff was jaw-dropping.
Now for the accounting fraud. Looks like Baltimore authorities learned well from Wall Street.
So they cooked the books.
Oh yeah. If you hit somebody with a bullet, that had to count. If they went to the hospital with a bullet in them, it probably had to count as an aggravated assault. But if someone just took a gun out and emptied the clip and didn’t hit anything or they didn’t know if you hit anything, suddenly that was a common assault or even an unfounded report. Armed robberies became larcenies if you only had a victim’s description of a gun, but not a recovered weapon. And it only gets worse as some district commanders began to curry favor with the mayoral aides who were sitting on the Comstat data. In the Southwest District, a victim would try to make an armed robbery complaint, saying , ‘I just got robbed, somebody pointed a gun at me,’ and what they would do is tell him, well, okay, we can take the report but the first thing we have to do is run you through the computer to see if there’s any paper on you. Wait, you’re doing a warrant check on me before I can report a robbery? Oh yeah, we gotta know who you are before we take a complaint. You and everyone you’re living with? What’s your address again? You still want to report that robbery?
They cooked their own books in remarkable ways. Guns disappeared from reports and armed robberies became larcenies. Deadly weapons were omitted from reports and aggravated assaults became common assaults. The Baltimore Sun did a fine job looking into the dramatic drop in rapes in the city. Turned out that regardless of how insistent the victims were that they had been raped, the incidents were being quietly unfounded. That tip of the iceberg was reported, but the rest of it, no. And yet there were many veteran commanders and supervisors who were disgusted, who would privately complain about what was happening. If you weren’t a journalist obliged to quote sources and instead, say, someone writing a fictional television drama, they’d share a beer and let you fill cocktail napkins with all the ways in which felonies disappeared in those years.
I mean, think about it. How does the homicide rate decline by 15 percent, while the agg assault rate falls by more than double that rate. Are all of Baltimore’s felons going to gun ranges in the county? Are they becoming better shots? Have the mortality rates for serious assault victims in Baltimore, Maryland suddenly doubled? Did they suddenly close the Hopkins and University emergency rooms and return trauma care to the dark ages? It makes no sense statistically until you realize that you can’t hide a murder, but you can make an attempted murder disappear in a heartbeat, no problem.
But these guys weren’t satisfied with just juking their own stats. No, the O’Malley administration also went back to the last year of the previous mayoralty and performed its own retroactive assessment of those felony totals, and guess what? It was determined from this special review that the preceding administration had underreported its own crime rate, which O’Malley rectified by upgrading a good chunk of misdemeanors into felonies to fatten up the Baltimore crime rate that he was inheriting. Get it? How better than to later claim a 30 or 40 percent reduction in crime than by first juking up your inherited rate as high as she’ll go. It really was that cynical an exercise.
So Martin O’Malley proclaims a Baltimore Miracle and moves to Annapolis. And tellingly, when his successor as mayor allows a new police commissioner to finally de-emphasize street sweeps and mass arrests and instead focus on gun crime, that’s when the murder rate really dives. That’s when violence really goes down. When a drug arrest or a street sweep is suddenly not the standard for police work, when violence itself is directly addressed, that’s when Baltimore makes some progress.
But nothing corrects the legacy of a police department in which the entire rank-and-file has been rewarded and affirmed for collecting bodies, for ignoring probable cause, for grabbing anyone they see for whatever reason. And so, fast forward to Sandtown and the Gilmor Homes, where Freddie Gray gives some Baltimore police the legal equivalent of looking at them a second or two too long. He runs, and so when he’s caught he takes an ass-kicking and then goes into the back of a wagon without so much as a nod to the Fourth Amendment.
So do you see how this ends or how it begins to turn around?
We end the drug war. I know I sound like a broken record, but we end the fucking drug war. The drug war gives everybody permission to do anything. It gives cops permission to stop anybody, to go in anyone’s pockets, to manufacture any lie when they get to district court. You sit in the district court in Baltimore and you hear, ‘Your Honor, he was walking out of the alley and I saw him lift up the glassine bag and tap it lightly.’ No fucking dope fiend in Baltimore has ever walked out of an alley displaying a glassine bag for all the world to see. But it keeps happening over and over in the Western District court. The drug war gives everybody permission. And if it were draconian and we were fixing anything that would be one thing, but it’s draconian and it’s a disaster.
This is true about the drug war, but even more true about the “war on terror.” Also endless, also used to justify anything.
Medicalize the problem, decriminalize — I don’t need drugs to be declared legal, but if a Baltimore State’s Attorney told all his assistant state’s attorneys today, from this moment on, we are not signing overtime slips for court pay for possession, for simple loitering in a drug-free zone, for loitering, for failure to obey, we’re not signing slips for that: Nobody gets paid for that bullshit, go out and do real police work. If that were to happen, then all at once, the standards for what constitutes a worthy arrest in Baltimore would significantly improve. Take away the actual incentive to do bad or useless police work, which is what the drug war has become.
So much of what’s been happening in Baltimore for decades is now also business as usual within the highest corridors of American power. As I’ve said time and time again, incentives are the key variable here. If you’re rewarded for fraud and white collar crime, you will get more of it. If you jail the perpetrators of it, you’ll get less of it. TBTF Wall Street execs and private equity guys don’t want to sit in a jail cell for a decade, believe me. They’d sell 50 Picassos and 30 sharks soaked in formaldehyde before that ever happened.
The sad part is we aren’t even trying to change the incentive structure of status quo criminality. This is because the current generation of power players were trained and molded by the same types before them. This is all they know. Money and power are their gods. Crime is their religion. We have no choice but to stop them.
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All rioters and protestors blocking streets should be shot on sight. Blacks have no place in modern society.
Protesters without a cause or a clue... because as we all know... Its the Cops fault public education in Black neighborhoods is Shit and a voucher or any kind of school choice is the devil.. Its the cops fault the state destroyed the black family by rewarding fatherless black households and penalizes any employment with less welfare support... Its the cops fault that minimum wage directly discriminates against the uneducated, unskilled black worker denying them the ability to enter the workforce and learn a trade or skill at a lower wage..Its the cops fault that the war on drugs has incarcerated more non violent black men and destroyed any hopes of a decent job or the ability to vote.. Its the cops fault that mllions of black babies via eugenics are murdered in the womb of their mothers under the guise of womans choice ... its the cops fault that blacks are pimped out , demoralized and guaranteed failure by their own kind by glamorizing the word "Nigga" as a term of endearment and an uneducated vernacluar known as ghetto dialect to go along with a dress code that begs failure.. Its the cops fault that all blacks cant be successful dealers, rappers, football or basketball players....Its all the cops fault now go back to Kissing the ring of your white limousine liberal Massa and Fuck the Police!
First they came for the Blacks, and I did not speak out ...
Then they came for the Muslims, and I did not speak out ...
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Then they came for me, but there was no one left to speak out for me.
Well said.
FIRST THEY CAME FOR THE RIOTING BLACK SCUM CRIMINALS.....and I said nothing, because I am tired of Obama's relatives.....
And so you decided to impotently whine about black folks on the Internet. What a guy!
Plucked some real low hangin fruit there Bored, congrats
First they came for the cheese, then they came for the pope. Next thing u know, there was this money counterfeitting racket going on & there was a lot of war & poverty.
Then, there was a ZH that came along to let people voice their grievances about it (apart from the 'indoctrination' they'd been force fed all their lives).
Then there were sychophants who got themselves usernames on ZH to tell the people who correctly identified the perpetrators that they were bigots.
And the cycle of life continues.
It's easy to control a dis-organized mob, if they ever get organized things might start sucking for the cops.....
Yeah, blacks and muslims are going to speak out for you. Right.
The Muslim under your bed has acquired a black sidekick. Oh, heavens!
The Nazis, who came for all these people, had the words "God With Us" engraved on their belts.
Religion is fascism in its primal form. It was the first successful attempt at politically consolidating hatred against outsiders. The "us vs them" mentality being propagated by all right-wing politics had its genesis in the religious concept of "faithful vs infidel".
Good post, save for the "right wing" bullshit. If you think the lefties are any better, you'd better start breaking out of your doctrine.
Left-wing politics are inclusive. Right-wing politics are, at best, aimed at preserving a status quo of inequality. Oftentimes, they openly advocate inequality, in the form of discrimination and segregation.
Religion pioneered both of these concepts as a policy. Organized religion intentionally fosters internal divisions in populations, by introducing such things as separate attires or eating habits, and then proceeds to foster increasing levels of segregation between these artificial "communities" it has created. This process culminates in the persecution of all those who are somehow deviant or different from what has become the religious majority.
The far-right has derived each of these concepts from organized religion.
"Left-wing politics are inclusive."
The left wing denies the rights of those individuals who wish to chose their own medical and retirement plans, use sound money and freely associate or not associate with those whom they chose.
Doesn't calling for "diversity" while demanding that all individuals be forced into the mold of the lowest common denominator strike you as hypocritical?
"This process culminates in the persecution of all those who are somehow deviant or different from what has become the religious majority."
For the authoritarian left (progresives, socialist, marxist) their ideology is their religion. we know this because the above is exactly what they do. Anyone who thinks there's a bit a difference in how the left or right enforces their morality on us via the state are delusional.
"Left-wing politics are inclusive."
sure, all races and religions under one inclusive totalitarian thumb.
Left-wing politics are inclusive.
Sure, if you agree with them. If you don't, you're worthy of death.
I've know too many lefties. They are just as bad as the reds.
ALL statists are nascent gulag-operators.
Is a circle. Go far enough right or left and you wind up in the same spot.
Anyone who does not see this by now is still trapped in the Matrix.
Your flavor of delusion focuses on the belief that the left is inclusive. This is only accurate superficially. They aren't called union 'fat cats' for nothing. If you ranked high enough in the Soviet party, you used to be able to access many 'luxuries' that th other 99% of your 'comrades' could not obtain. So yes, the left is inclusive. Some are just more included than others.
The idea that "Left-wing politics is inclusive" may come from the dreamy utopian view of the socialist societies in Norway, Sweden, and Denmark. These societies provide cradle-to-grave social welfare programs in return for high taxation and rigid political correctness mind control. Conformity is highly regarded, while non-conformity (outside of the socially-acceptable pre-programmed sort practised by musicians and hip poets and artists) is likely to be met with violence while the police stand by and watch. Libertarianism and licence to indulge in sex, alcohol, and drugs is provided to a certain extent, to give the illusion of freedom and allow some release of steam. "Tolerance" is preached and practised to a greater or lesser extent under this socialist model, depending upon the subject matter. Immigrant populations that do not buy into this conformity but maintain their own conformity can cause social friction. (Japan is similar, with conformity being the overriding social ethos, and hence their saying "Don't be the protruding nail.")
These Northern European countries typically practise rigid arms control on their citizens, and foster a lack of self-defence skills and lack of awareness of possible threats of violence - witness the success of Anders Breivik in killing 77 people while acting alone, and the people and police scurried about in confusion.
It is not unusual for a society to develop the notion that anyone who does not buy into the ruling philosophy must be mentally ill. In the USSR, political dissidents were imprisoned in hospitals for the insane. In the West, dissidents are demonized, diagnosed as suffering from various paranoid delusions, and medicated for ADHD, PTSD, Autism, depression, etc. Senator Joseph McCarthy and J. Edgar Hoover capitalized on the panic over the idea that Communism and Communists presented an existential threat to the fabric and morals of America, and political dissidents outside of the circumscribed Democrats versus Republicans facade have long been given a rough ride. Witness Pete Seeger, Lenny Bruce, Paul Robeson, Martin Luther King Jr., Daniel Ellsberg, Edward Snowden, Julian Assange and others who dared raise their voices to protest or expose the dirty linen of the state. Whistle blowers are often given harsher penalties than those given to the miscreants they expose. The War on Terror is used to demonize and eliminate dissidents at home and abroad.
Larsson does hit the nail on the head by identifying religion as a social control mechanism practised by the state. Kings and Queens long ago found that it was very effective to combine Royal legal authority with religious authority to control their populations. What better way to control an ignorant and unruly population than to convince them that God had chosen their local Royal family for them, and that their ever-present God (think NSA listening in to every communication you make) will reward or punish you depending upon whether you express support for, or criticism of, your King or Queen.
Inclusive = equality of misery.
Sorry dude, you're a low-info loon.
You must be the slow one in the family everyone talks about.,
CURFEW...
Only a FEW CURs are allowed on the street.
That is what I think a cur-few implies, if this incident is anything to go by. There is clearly NO directive to the BPD to hold back...
But Baltimore is not where it's at.
Chicago is where the tinder is dry, the guns are popping and the general population is in glazed stare mode.
This time, it feels liek CHicago's turn.
Think, where would a community organizer have his best network?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gYBO6cJUsFA
The entire country of USSA is in a glazed stare. Fat, dumb, lazy, spoiled and cowardly and all mesmerized by the many trinkets and various forms of materialism ! Amazing few realize that is how they are controlled by the control freaks ? So we spiral towards the end game and destruction of a paradigm with a new pickup truck and a 3 car garage ! But all is well in USSA today ?
I can say these things you can't, because my skin is what is called white ? HA HA HA Good tune by the way. Had not heard that one ? As you know I like the non structured thingy, very transcendental :) check out my site.......................
Link DTE?
He won't eat for some time yet as he goes thru heroin withdrawl.
Cue the police state apologist who will scream, they were under Marshall Law and the kid "defied" the law, so he had it coming!!
So when the .gov says the Country is under the SAME conditions, all you Statist, big gov tyrants, do what your fucking told, and STFU, I don't want to hear any crying at that point!
Thank you "eatthebanksters" for being right on cue!!!
I agree with you; the only person under Marshall Law should be his wife. End of story.
Who is Marshall?
Frank Marshall.
Obama's Commie dad.
That's why he calls it Marshall Law.
Either that or he's a public school grad.
It's like North Korea, except darker......
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IIBrFU_x7HU
A more up close and personal slow motion view of this demon possessed protestor can be found here.....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fDVlpuyz-iI
Idiots. Nothing on the video to see why he was pepper sprayed and attacked. The curfew is over. Matter of time before all this explodes in the cops face.
"F___ the Police" While sitting in the slammer, this guy may want to read: "How to Win Friends and Influence People." Whatever his motive, this he flunked the intelligence test. Got what he was asking for.
waste of water, a single bullet whould have do the job.
citizen right collapse ? do not make me laught my belly hurt me.... a black comes and insult police... what if someone even white come to your house and say FUCK YOUR KIDS
you gonna check palms, make salute and have a drink ??? or kick the shit out of him...
same results. do not mess with police, tryin be funny with such provoking tee-shirt only show blacks are brainless without any fucking mental projection of act -> consequences.
any downvoter is black or black cock sucker.
end of discuss.
PURGEEEEE!!!!
"We hope you had a wonderful evening."
Fuck the Police! Fuck, Fuck, the Police!
Classic
If you go out to antagnozie the police after curfew is in effect wearing a 'Fuck the Police' t-shirt then you have this coming. Sorry, I have no sympathy for people trying to start something.
"..Sorry, I have no respect for the constitution."
FIFY.
Sorry, I missed the constitutional rights of Eric Garner.
You may choose to obey curfews, but a real man will oppose tyranny.
So, we''ll count on you being an obedient bootlicker.
All those who disobey our beloved masters deserve their punishment. Stockholm is beautiful this time of year.
So .... Stockholm Syndrome?
You guys are so full of shit. Am I happy with our government overreach in so many places, NO! But we need laws to keep the peace. When cops break the law they should be punished...that is happening right now in Baltimore where 6 cops were arrested. Now its time to restore peace so the vast majority of peaceful non-looting non-criminal residents of Baltimore can get on with their iives. When some dickweed wants to make the 11:00 news and provokes cops trying to re-ignite a flame that will lead to more destruction I am totaly against it. For all you chickenshit fuckers out there that talk so big, get off your asses and go out and do something instead of whining about government and cheering criminal behavior. Very few of us are happy with the US today, I just believe that criminal defiance that puts innocents at risk and costs everyone but the loser who loots is wrong. Dudes, I have lost my life savngs and am out of work, and I am not happy with our government, but why would I loot or burn a store down in my hood so that all of my neghbors will need to get on a bus to pick up perscriptions for the next 30 years. Get a fucking clue!
Provoking cops by using your First Amendment rights to free speech should not result in you being pepper sprayed, arrested and manhandled. The litmus test is simple, if you pepper sprayed your very annoying neighbor, grabbed him, handcuffed him, and dragged him would that be legal?
No. It would not be. The cops are treating people like they are animals. These protests are just the beginning.
In normal times you are correct. When you are out after a curfew cutoff you are breaking the law...he should have done it from his front porch or his window. The reason for the curfew was to stifle any chance of a repeat of the destructive rampage and looting that had occurred previously. Looters are not demonstrators or revolutionaries, they are criminals who prey upon society when the opportunity presents itself and in so doing damage the lives of many civilized people.
No: when you are setting a curfew and enforcing it, that is breaking the ultimate law - the Constitution - and must be stopped completely by any means the citizens deem fit.
Here you go etb, kind of expensive for a tank top but you can get a hoodie too...
http://www.foulmouthshirts.com/designs/Attitude/pages/imagepages/Fuck-th...
Post script: much as I get a laugh out of anybody who dares wear one, I don't have the cojones to do it.
Suspected pedophile cohort Alan Dershowitz was on CNN last night defending fellow tribe girl Pamela Geller's right to hold muslim bashing contests. (Perfect timing right? Hero gunslibging cops tag two assault rifle toting, bullet-proof vest clad, ISIS dudes while anti-cop sentiment is on the rise?)
I wonder what he'd say about this. No I don't. He'd point to the curfew and say the shirt was fine. I watched this saturday night and CNN interviewed some real mental midgets about this...it looked so staged. They were asked why they weren't obeying the curfew. They incoherently muttered things like "police state", "beatings", "brutality". Nobody thoughtful enough to bring up that maybe the cops should go home since it was cops that had since been arrested for, among other things, murder. It wouldn't have mattered but someone ignoring the curfew could have brought that up.
At the same time the Fox coverage was focused on the secret BPD insider "Mike" with Hannity shouting he was practically positive Freddie died because he swallowed a bunch of drugs, this is all being staged. This will die down in a while, cycling back to ebola and russian aggression.
Hannity is towing the AIPAC line like a mo-fo. Most be raking in some serious cash off that cow. I can only tune in for a minute or two here and there if there is nothing else on the radio while I am heading home.
Funny thing I heard on his radio show a couple weeks ago though. He had a retired NY cop on the show. The subject was about how police should be handling situations (versus what is occuring now). There was also a woman on show who had her opinion about what is reasonable and not. After a minute or so, it was clear the cop was losing ground to the woman because his answers were somewhat evasive. Suddenly, the retired cop started yelling at the woman. He flipped into "bully mode" right there on the spot - ironically killing his own argument via actions (contradictory to what he was saying).
I can't explain why I watch that at all because there isn't a thing I can do about it. Something doesn't seem right about ignoring the world as it falls apart, as much as I say I'd like to.
It's like you can change the channel and see a completely different world but none of them are real.
A tee shirt that says "FUCK THE COPS" is just asking for trouble. Illegal? No, but there is no reason to walk the streets with a shirt like that.
I think a tee shirt that says "I have Constitutional rights that men died to protect and your badge must respect it" would be ok.
Unfortunately they know shit about the constitution. They are Democrats, remember?
Fuck you and the "curfew" . No "curfew" is athorized.
The issue: over the last 200 years, your rights as a citizen have eroded from being responsible for everything (food, clothing, shelter, personal protection, and the consequences of your loud mouth) to where a vast construct of administrative bureaucrats (police, gov at all levels, your HOA and your school board) presume they have the right to tell you what you can and can't do, what you can and can't wear, what you can and can't say, what times of the day you are allowed out of your house on your own street; essentially how to live.
Where did the "rules" of a curfew come from? Were citizens ever asked if they would like to provide that authority? If asked in the past, should current citizens be constrained by the bad choices of prior generations? What of those who oppose such "rules" imposed without consent (or even discussion); bad enough that a majority is used as excuse to impose constraints on a (numerical) minority, even worse when some ruling minority (appointed officials who were supposed to serve the public) determine they should rule instead.
We have arrived at an ugly point were we are waking to the fact that, through generations of failure in policing our own government (and our own lives), we are essentially subject and slaves to layers of "state" at all levels. The guy in the shirt, and those like him, feel cornered and stripped of basic rights, by a system that thinks nothing of telling people to obey or suffer violence. He pushes back in the ways that occur to him, as the methods that authority leaves open for "legitimate and due process" are impotent shams. I do sympathize with him.
Thank you for that well-written post. Unfortunately, I do not think we are 'waking to the fact.' Even if enough people awake, it requires a serious discussion and consensus of the root causes of these miseries. Very few want to acknowledge and face the truths of the universe. Taking the intellectually easy way out is to be expected, especially among those who have been trained to do so all their lives.
Yup. This all feeds off of the most primitive aspects of mankind. Raising the subject to an intellectual level means putting intellect over emotion. Too many people are just not capable of this. Likewise, it is against a predatory "system" (not just government, but many businesses as well) which uses emotion to manipulate behavior to a desired (and self-serving) outcome. A regular clusterfuck of bullshit. Dog eat dog. And anyone wonders why violence winds up the common denominator?
Sorry, I have no sympathy for people trying to start something.
The outcome of the American Revolution must have really pissed you off.
The Boston Tea Party was an attempt to prokove the British. The secret society called the Sons of Liberty another. Wars and Revolutions cannot begin if everyone stands down.
Since the cops actually started it that means we should have no sympathy for them when they start dropping.
But you respect the 1st Amendment right of race-baiters to hold a Mohammed caricature contest?
pigs
Until I saw that, I had thought that negroes was smart.
That's the dumbest thing I ever read.....folks with an average IQ of 78 are rarely ever "smart"....the low IQ thingy is why they react to so many everyday situations with outbursts of senseless violence, and why they are so useful as a group to the Chosenite media
Unlike the high IQ you exhibit with your small minded posts?
My mind is so big, I can ignore reality and history, then implement policy. I'm a liberal progressive, now hear me roar!
Progressive, Conservative, they all believe that shit
Point taken. Statist then.
Despite your small comedic attempt it is true that you don't know history:
Not you ye proud, impute to these the blame
If Afric's sons to genius are unknown,
For Banneker has prov'd they may acquire a name,
As bright, as lasting, as your own.
Free boat rides back...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2YUmU-GrT30
Where's the free boat rides for whitey back to the shores of Europe?
and we continue to crank out more and more lawyers
as if the world needed anymore
The 'infield' at the Preakness this year ought to be a hoot!
Good name for a 2 yr old.
Fuck the Police...making a run for the inside rail.....being pushed back by Roid Monster.......Burn the Constitution holding onto the lead.
Times being as they are, Firing Line paid PLACE & SHOW money at the Kentucky Derby (as well as EXACTA money if you had it boxed with American Pharaoh).
and down to the wire "Obama the cocksucker" beats "Reggie" by an ass.
Preakness may not happen...
that's some funny shit right there
My Favorite Fuck the Police Image http://i.huffpost.com/gen/554156/thumbs/o-FRISKY-HORSE-570.jpg?4
Two versions of the Video, One by CNN and one by RT(russia today).
Very different coverage. The RT one is the FULL incident(more than the one above.)
Baltimore Protests: Two Video Prove How the US Media Twists the Facts
http://www.globalresearch.ca/baltimore-protests-two-video-prove-how-the-us-media-twists-the-facts/5447058
CNN version https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dTwIOvGUTQs
RT version https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e1gXqrUsZYM
Truth is terrorism. You don't support terrorism do you, samsara?
Conspiracy Theorists, Bloggers Compared To ISIS During Congressional Hearing
The RT video you posted above is a perfect example of ISIS-like terrorism. It's dangerous to allow people to interpret facts without providing state-sponsored comments to help guide the narrative. This allows citizens to draw proper and state-approved conclusions. Terrorism is based on facts that do not follow the narrative:
See, that's the problem with RT's fact-based information terrorism: there is no accountability for the truth!
You forgot the Sarc tag/ Or I hope you did.
I do not watch shit TV. I may watch RT on the internet. CNN is insanely pro-black until it does not fit the agenda.
I had no issue with black people until Obola really polarized race realtions for his elite Z-bozzes. I blame whites who may have voted for him.
Also dumb whites who watch TV, ball games and hollywood's shit which probably 80% of ZH posters probably still watch TV like serfs. Seeing some dumb whites beaten at an Orioles game would make me laugh because they support it all with their bread and circuses fandom.
This black guy in the t-shirt is a patriot. He is correct. There is freedom of speech and freedom of assembly. Everyone should see this video.
Trayvon and Michael Brown are pieces of shit.
This guy is a hero. The black guy choked to death in NYC by the cop is another hero as was the white kid shot by the black cop for nothing. The one where the media never mentioned the white kid.
+1
ridiculous that fucked up CNN cuts&paste. I clearly recommend to take a look at the 'enemies' version.
Those pigs are a bunch of cruel heartless bastards.
More of the same from our lying, useless, should be hung, politicians.
Love all the moralistic liberty lover posts here on ZH... let's see how you would react if they burned down your business/ neighbourhood.
The guy pepper sprayed and beaten was not burning down anything.
cept maybe his own eyeballs
Burning down neighborhood/ riots > curfew > uphold rule of law. Anyway we don't know what he did before the video started.
Shut down Goldman Sachs. Arrest Lloyd Blankfein.
So the groid wears a 'FUCK THE POLICE' sweatshirt, violates curfew and then gets tasered. What's the issue here?
There is no disagreement that the man was going to be beat due to his actions; I dont have the stones that guy has. The issue is, should a man walking on a public street be beat by an army of police? Just because TPTB "issued a curfew" makes it ok to beat a guy walking in the street?
YES
NO. That guy made no threat to them except to thumb his nose at them. The cops are there to "maintain order", not to be judge, jury and executioner. They could have simply detained him and let the court system sort it out. We either have a constitution or we don't.
The cops are there to "maintain order"
The cops are there to provide unthinking muscle for the powerful and monied, to extort revenue for the local .gov via fines/fees, to protect and serve their pensions, and to beat the fuck/murder you at their whim...and your little dog, too.
... my precious.
If that's the case it's equally legal for a bigger army of better-armed militia to aim at the police, arrest them or shoot resisters among them.
free speech and a curfew for starters. He wasn't a physical threat to anybody or any property at that moment, nobody was in any danger so the police could have handled it differently than a physical assault with weapons.
I feel the issue here is that in a free democracy you should be able to wear whatever you want on your shirt whether that be an "I'm with stupid" t-shirt or a "Fuck the police" t-shirt. In addition, we should not have our movements restricted and be told when we can and when we cannot be on the street. We should also have the right to assemble peacefully and freely as these people were doing while exercising their right to speak freely against police brutality. If you think that what the police are doing is right because these people are poor and black, think again. Eventually they are going to run out of poor, black people to harass, beat, tase, pepper spray, shoot and detain and will turn their agressions toward another group. History proves it. Now go back to watching cartoons.
Umm, by what mechanism are they, a heavily black police department in a heavily black welfare city, going to run out of blacks? WTF are you speaking of?
It would appear if he had a camera, he would have been safe. Cops are discriminant in their beating and do not target Press.
Yes, because the TV cameraa and plethora of people roaming the streets with their cell phone cameras must have had them all shut off. lol
Yes, because the TV cameraa and plethora of people roaming the streets with their cell phone cameras must have had them all shut off. lol
Yay Anarchy! /
"No Country for Black men"
Rise up before its too late.
Blacks (5%) are not the problem.....I don't know a single person who doesn't like blacks.
It's the 95% of Trayvons, LarSqueesha's and LaQuandres that act like feral animals and deserve the 'screet justus' the cops are dealing out.....
Always said that. 95% of blacks give the rest a bad name.
"Baltimore, Maryland is in many ways the perfect microcosm for these United States of America."
I quit reading there. Starting with a blatantly false premise is a good sign that lies and propaganda follow.
Baltimore MAY be a perfect microcosm of Black, urban America. The vast majority of America is nothing like Baltimore.
Yo dawg no difference between whites and blacks! NONE I tell you.
I remember when 'BALMER' was this
http://www.paintedwindowscreens.com/resources/Balmer%20window%20screen.jpg
at some point, it became this...
http://literatureandlibation.files.wordpress.com/2012/08/beer-gang-100.jpg
It's not a perfect comparison, but there are 200+ million educamated zombies in the USSA who didn't learn from the last go round on the big Rinse, Repeat Machine, so perhaps that analogy can help them, because the back story is a bit more complex, but the implications are important if anyone actually gives a shit about breaking the cycle-
The DEA was founded in 1973 with the War on Drugs. The predecessor of the ATF was founded with the Volstead Act in 1919 with the War on Alcohol.
During the Great Depression there was actually white-on-white cannibalism in Appalachia among other deprivations, so FDR rolled out the forerunner to the Great Society, and in the process created the white trash dependency class that everyone else ignored and ridiculed 30 years later when LBJ was pulling his admitted 200-year con on the niggers.
The War on Alcohol didn't end in 1933 with the 21st amendment - it shifted to the IRS and then the DOJ (read that again... potheads). The revenuers continued beating white trash and confiscating their property and handing out lengthy prison sentences to people who don't want to be part of the dependency class and don't think the Federal Government should be regulating and taxing certain liquids they chose to drink and had manufactured unregulated since before Shay's Rebellion & the American Revolution. This war and its civil atrocities also continue to this day (just not on TV except when COPS needs to fulfill a diversity quota). In addition to the War on Alcohol and keeping the white trash on the plantation, the ATF has brought us such made for TV dramas as an M-1 TANK (not an impotent MWRAP) in WACO, and lawful "Shoot on Sight" orders against women and children at Ruby Ridge (copper jacketed lead, not Baltimore pepper spray). And no one cared... after all it was the white trash dependency class.
So now we have the black trash dependency class and its mess in Baltimore and elsewhere. Does anyone really think the next "cleanup" is going to work out any better than the last one? The IRS isn't going anywhere and FEDs are even more desperate for revenue. The blacks can't even speak ill of their own black trash black trash dependency class (unlike the whites, when the whites aren't pretending it doesn't exist). And neither group has managed to substantially lift its true underclass out of the quagmire.
Of course the vast majority of White America is nothing like the hillbilly welfare trash of Appalachia (or Oklahoma or elsewhere)... but that whole microcosm thing is actually multi-dimensional.
In our part of the country ('Cascadia'), high school kids have a Curfew of 9 PM on school nights, and Midnight on Fri and Sat. Per town laws.
In our Zip, cops still act the way they used to 30 years ago, and we co-exist nicely. It is not unusual for people to wave to them, or for them to chat with people at Starbucks or Safeway. But then, our community is rather 'homogenous' and made up of traditional suburbanites with professional jobs.
In one inner-city part of our Metro area, the Locals (guess who) are complaining about the affluent Urbanites buying up their houses and driving up the RE prices with all the 'Gen-tri-fi-cation', forcing them to buy homes far out in the 'burbs -- and thus upsetting their "business and lifestyle models".
He is clearly recognizable as a community organizer...
The drug war is an outcome of christian right moralists taking over the republican party. It will never end as long as they are the majority party. Their political positions are based on values not logic.
Ha!
Nothing like a little revisionist history, eh?
December 17, 1914 – U.S. President Woodrow Wilson (D) signs the Harrison Act.
Franklin D. Roosevelt (D)- Signed Marijuana Tax Act of 1937Stop with the Red / Blue team nonsense- they're two cheeks of the same arse.
So let the Dems fix it?
Brilliant
Exactly when did any war end when the "logic" party was "in charge"? The "logic" party members figured out that, logically, if they could keep any war going, it would provide a path to personal power and enrichment.
The wars have no end in sight no matter which of the "War Party" factions is in charge.
Lets see, Vietnam was a Democrat run, Democrat started war, ended by a republican. WWI and II were Democrat wars. Afghanistan was the ant-war left's good and justifiable war, on which obama tripled down racking up 75% of our casualties there under a Democrat's perfect Democrat. Clinton did us a war in the Balkans and we are still there today. That's a lot of Democrat wars. Hillary and Kerry voted for the Iraq war and vociferated publically about the scourge of Saddam. Obama and his ukraine and syria and libya policies.
Your comment is the outcome of an imbecile exercising his first amendment right. It will never end as long as you listen to elites whispering sweet lies in your ears making you think someone with faith is your enemy. Your political positions are based on power, fascism and the ends justify the means, not on logic, prionciple or values.
Baltimore, Blacks, corrupt local government and 'free-shit' aside for a moment... Don't forget that situation in Sacramento CA a year or 3 back, the photo of the nice public servant sticking his 'assault weapon' right in the face of a (nice, lily-white, non-threatening) citizen while stopped at a 'checkpoint' for some terrifying-terrorist ordeal going on at the time. The point here is, No One is immune, regardless of how 'law-abiding' you might think yourself to be. The 'We're-in-control-here-Not-You' meme is going to touch everyone at some point. Don't kid yourself.
I've personally had it occur to me. Not in Baltimore though.
North Carolina and Virginia.
Case 1: detained by police while DDing my family home when I was 18 on vacation for nothing. Cop threatened to sic his K9 on my 110lb 52 year old mom because she was crying and wanted to get out and explain wtf was going on.
Case 2: Yelled at a cop in VA for an incident where a student was tasered running away from an underage drinking citation. Mother fucker lied his ass off on the police report. I ended up convicted of a DIP for saying I had had a drink *that day* -- but no question over how recently. No breathalyzer. No field sobriety test. No victim line on the form the magistrate gave me. Officer at the jail even said "why are you here?". Cunt judge convicted me anyway - $25 fine, $71 court costs.
So really, fuck the police. And the corrupt judicial system.
Edit: Annnnnd I'm a white dude.
Having been busted for walking through Central Park early one morning (~1:20 AM), my courthouse experience was an eye-opener. I had no idea how little anyone there cared about justice. Every .gov employee was focued SOLELY on the efficient cattle-processing and revenue generation for the state. I did have the foresight to not shower the day of my court date and look Derelicte-chic. The only question the judge asked me was 'Were you alone, or with others when you in the Park after it had closed'? He offered me a $25 dollar fine or take it to trial. I guess I accepted the $25 a little too gleefully, b/c he said 'Should have set it at $50' as I headed to the counter to pay.
The US court system is Justice theater. Want justice? Buy a gun.
Link? I missed that one.
Think about how poor, uneducated, and hopless somebody would have to be to mob up and break into a CVS to steal $30 in snacks.
The American Spring will not be pretty; a lot of people are going to get hurt and a lot of things are going to get broken.
You cannot be serious...
Don't worry; you'll understand it when you and yours get priced out of the marketplace by hyperinflation, just like these people were priced out generations ago.
Yep, you really are that base. No furthur reply needed.
Have you ever been to the rough parts of Baltimore, or any city?
I bet not. It's as bad as you can imagine.
exactly.
Why?
Baltimore is an example of democrats.
Nuff said.
They coulda shot em. I mean, i would have felt threatened by him......
A shocking 90 second video? Rather an expected 90 second video.
Why wasnt the media and photographers and journalists given the same treatment? why only a black man?
'cos of his shirt?
Hey people news flash, no matter what we do as a society, there will always be a proportionate amout of poor, uneducted, people. There is a reason they are poor and uneducated. No, it is not whiteys fault, nor the police, nor the cities, nor the states. These problems originated when welfare started and caused the break up of family units and decency. I know whites, blacks and hispanics that are trashy, poor and uneducated. I also know whites, blacks and hispanics that have some class and,as my momma used to say, a little home training. It all starts at home!!!!
The War on Drugs (ie: the war on pharmaceutical entrepreneurship) specifically targets the black male and by extension the black family unit.
The War on Drugs targets the people with the most unemployment.
Hunger games...
If there is any upside to Ferguson and Baltimore, it's that the responses to them sort out who cares about liberty, and who's just a right wing populist who supports the police state.
Will you give them the liberty to burn down your neighbourhood?
Whether or not it was a stupid move can be argued.
BUT homes here rolled right up to them in a Fuck The Police shirt and posted up as they sprayed him in the face with that shit. The spray didn't make him fall to the ground and whine like a bitch. They had to drop him. Big set of balls on that guy.
He was high as a kite, and thought the spray was grape koolaid.
Dave Chappelle - Grape Drink
https://youtu.be/oDqqLG3dijA
ok...that was funny. I upped you for that one.
Still ballsy, though
I can't really say the police did anything wrong. There is a curfew in effect, and police are required to arrest people in violation of the curfew. You can disagree with this law, but the police are just regular guys trying to do their job. They pepper sprayed the guy so he was no longer a threat, but it's not like they punched or kicked him. It would be nice if more police encounters remained this civilized. Pepper spray hurts, but you get over it. Pepper spray is also a lot better than being tased. People have died from being tased because they would fall to the ground and hit their head on concrete.
I'm not saying cops should go around pepper spraying everyone for no reason. I'm just saying this is not news worthy. Nothing bad happened in that video. They peppered a guy, and he was ok at the end.