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What Happens If You Defy Curfew: A Shocking 90-Second Clip From The Streets Of Baltimore

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Submitted by Mike Krieger via Liberty Blitzkrieg blog,

On Saturday night, a man whose name still seems to be unknown, but who was wearing a “F##k the Police” t-shirt, came out in front of police past the official curfew. This is what happened next:

 

As Mike noted previously, the situation in Baltimore is very serious and all Americans should be paying very close attention; but Baltimore is just a Microcosm of America.

Baltimore, Maryland is in many ways the perfect microcosm for these United States of America. If you still don’t get that, you’ll be in for a rude awakening in the years ahead.

A gradual erosion of the Constitution and the civil rights of the citizenry, the abuse of power by people in authority, perverse financial incentives that lead to horrible outcomes, zero accountability, and a ubiquitous surveillance state apparatus; Baltimore has it all. Yet all of these troubling traits have also come to characterize early 21st century America.

As tends to be the case, the populations that have been victimized the longest and most systemically — in Baltimore and across the U.S. — are the poor, weak and disenfranchised.  Like a cancer, corruption, theft, and blatant abuse of the citizenry by the powerful will spread and spread until it consumes everything unless the tumor is removed. It has now spread so deeply and so dangerously throughout American life, the general public will soon have no choice but to confront it and do something about it, or face a total extinction of opportunity and suffer the same desperate fate as the people out in the streets of Baltimore.

David Simon, creator of the excellent hit HBO series “The Wire,” recently sat down for an interview with former New York Times reporter Bill Keller to explain the situation in Baltimore as he sees it; its origins and what is needed to fix it. As you read, think about the many parallels to the U.S. economy in general; the endless criminal maneuverings within the centers of power in Washington D.C. and Wall Street, the forever spinning revolving door of corruption, the marauding gangs of cronies making impossibly large piles of money based on connections, fraud and rigged markets as opposed to adding value, the idiocy of the war on drugs, the fraudulent accounting, and the overbearing surveillance state. Increasingly, when America looks in the mirror Baltimore and Ferguson are staring right back. We just haven’t admitted it yet.

Now, from the Marshall Project:

Bill Keller: What do people outside the city need to understand about what’s going on there — the death of Freddie Gray and the response to it?

 

David Simon: I guess there’s an awful lot to understand and I’m not sure I understand all of it. The part that seems systemic and connected is that the drug war — which Baltimore waged as aggressively as any American city — was transforming in terms of police/community relations, in terms of trust, particularly between the black community and the police department. Probable cause was destroyed by the drug war.

 

Probable cause from a Baltimore police officer has always been a tenuous thing. It’s a tenuous thing anywhere, but in Baltimore, in these high crime, heavily policed areas, it was even worse. When I came on, there were jokes about, “You know what probable cause is on Edmondson Avenue? You roll by in your radio car and the guy looks at you for two seconds too long.” Probable cause was whatever you thought you could safely lie about when you got into district court.

 

Then at some point when cocaine hit and the city lost control of a lot of corners and the violence was ratcheted up, there was a real panic on the part of the government. And they basically decided that even that loose idea of what the Fourth Amendment was supposed to mean on a street level, even that was too much. Now all bets were off. Now you didn’t even need probable cause. The city council actually passed an ordinance that declared a certain amount of real estate to be drug-free zones. They literally declared maybe a quarter to a third of inner city Baltimore off-limits to its residents, and said that if you were loitering in those areas you were subject to arrest and search. Think about that for a moment: It was a permission for the police to become truly random and arbitrary and to clear streets any way they damn well wanted.

 

How does race figure into this? It’s a city with a black majority and now a black mayor and black police chief, a substantially black police force.

 

What did Tom Wolfe write about cops? They all become Irish? That’s a line in “Bonfire of the Vanities.” When Ed and I reported “The Corner,” it became clear that the most brutal cops in our sector of the Western District were black. The guys who would really kick your ass without thinking twice were black officers. If I had to guess and put a name on it, I’d say that at some point, the drug war was as much a function of class and social control as it was of racism. I think the two agendas are inextricably linked, and where one picks up and the other ends is hard to say. But when you have African-American officers beating the dog-piss out of people they’re supposed to be policing, and there isn’t a white guy in the equation on a street level, it’s pretty remarkable. But in some ways they were empowered.

 

Back then, even before the advent of cell phones and digital cameras — which have been transforming in terms of documenting police violence — back then, you were much more vulnerable if you were white and you wanted to wail on somebody. You take out your nightstick and you’re white and you start hitting somebody, it has a completely different dynamic than if you were a black officer. It was simply safer to be brutal if you were black, and I didn’t know quite what to do with that fact other than report it. It was as disturbing a dynamic as I could imagine. Something had been removed from the equation that gave white officers — however brutal they wanted to be, or however brutal they thought the moment required — it gave them pause before pulling out a nightstick and going at it. Some African American officers seemed to feel no such pause.

This is another fascinating microcosm considering how Barack Obama has done absolutely nothing to help the black community or poor in this country. It took a black President to so shamelessly hand everything to a handful of oligarchs and further oppress black communities.

What the drug war did, though, was make this all a function of social control. This was simply about keeping the poor down, and that war footing has been an excuse for everybody to operate outside the realm of procedure and law.

 

“The drug war began it, certainly, but the stake through the heart of police procedure in Baltimore was Martin O’Malley.”

In case you aren’t aware, Martin O’Malley was the ambitious Mayor of Baltimore who had his eyes dead set on the Governor’s seat. So much so that he cooked the crime books of Baltimore to create a crime “miracle,” and destroyed city police work in the process. Mr. O’Malley has recently discussed possibly running against Hillary in the 2016 Democrat primary.

But that wasn’t enough. O’Malley needed to show crime reduction stats that were not only improbable, but unsustainable without manipulation. And so there were people from City Hall who walked over Norris and made it clear to the district commanders that crime was going to fall by some astonishing rates. Eventually, Norris got fed up with the interference from City Hall and walked, and then more malleable police commissioners followed, until indeed, the crime rate fell dramatically. On paper.

 

How? There were two initiatives. First, the department began sweeping the streets of the inner city, taking bodies on ridiculous humbles, mass arrests, sending thousands of people to city jail, hundreds every night, thousands in a month. They actually had police supervisors stationed with printed forms at the city jail – forms that said, essentially, you can go home now if you sign away any liability the city has for false arrest, or you can not sign the form and spend the weekend in jail until you see a court commissioner. And tens of thousands of people signed that form. 

Unsurprisingly, the rule of law often dies at the hands of an ambitious politician.

The situation you described has been around for a while. Do you have a sense of why the Freddie Gray death has been such a catalyst for the response we’ve seen in the last 48 hours?

 

Because the documented litany of police violence is now out in the open. There’s an actual theme here that’s being made evident by the digital revolution. It used to be our word against yours. It used to be said — correctly — that the patrolman on the beat on any American police force was the last perfect tyranny. Absent a herd of reliable witnesses, there were things he could do to deny you your freedom or kick your ass that were between him, you, and the street. The smartphone with its small, digital camera, is a revolution in civil liberties.

 

In these drug-saturated neighborhoods, they weren’t policing their post anymore, they weren’t policing real estate that they were protecting from crime. They weren’t nurturing informants, or learning how to properly investigate anything. There’s a real skill set to good police work. But no, they were just dragging the sidewalks, hunting stats, and these inner-city neighborhoods — which were indeed drug-saturated because that’s the only industry left — become just hunting grounds. They weren’t protecting anything. They weren’t serving anyone. They were collecting bodies, treating corner folk and citizens alike as an Israeli patrol would treat Gaza, or as the Afrikaners would have treated Soweto back in the day. They’re an army of occupation. And once it’s that, then everybody’s the enemy. The police aren’t looking to make friends, or informants, or learning how to write clean warrants or how to testify in court without perjuring themselves unnecessarily. There’s no incentive to get better as investigators, as cops. There’s no reason to solve crime. In the years they were behaving this way, locking up the entire world, the clearance rate for murder dove by 30 percent. The clearance rate for aggravated assault — every felony arrest rate – took a significant hit. Think about that. If crime is going down, and crime is going down, and if we have less murders than ever before and we have more homicide detectives assigned, and better evidentiary technologies to employ how is the clearance rate for homicide now 48 percent when it used to be 70 percent, or 75 percent?

 

Because the drug war made cops lazy and less competent?

 

How do you reward cops? Two ways: promotion and cash. That’s what rewards a cop. If you want to pay overtime pay for having police fill the jails with loitering arrests or simple drug possession or failure to yield, if you want to spend your municipal treasure rewarding that, well the cop who’s going to court 7 or 8 days a month — and court is always overtime pay — you’re going to damn near double your salary every month. On the other hand, the guy who actually goes to his post and investigates who’s burglarizing the homes, at the end of the month maybe he’s made one arrest. It may be the right arrest and one that makes his post safer, but he’s going to court one day and he’s out in two hours. So you fail to reward the cop who actually does police work. But worse, it’s time to make new sergeants or lieutenants, and so you look at the computer and say: Who’s doing the most work? And they say, man, this guy had 80 arrests last month, and this other guy’s only got one. Who do you think gets made sergeant? And then who trains the next generation of cops in how not to do police work? I’ve just described for you the culture of the Baltimore police department amid the deluge of the drug war, where actual investigation goes unrewarded and where rounding up bodies for street dealing, drug possession, loitering such – the easiest and most self-evident arrests a cop can make – is nonetheless the path to enlightenment and promotion and some additional pay. That’s what the drug war built, and that’s what Martin O’Malley affirmed when he sent so much of inner city Baltimore into the police wagons on a regular basis.

So much of what was said there characterizes the perverted culture in Washington D.C. and on Wall Street. People are financially incentivized to commit fraud, crime and deceive customers. Those people are then promoted and train the next class. And the beat goes on…

The second thing Marty did, in order to be governor, involves the stats themselves. In the beginning, under Norris, he did get a better brand of police work and we can credit a legitimate 12 to 15 percent decline in homicides. Again, that was a restoration of an investigative deterrent in the early years of that administration. But it wasn’t enough to declare a Baltimore Miracle, by any means.

 

What can you do? You can’t artificially lower the murder rate – how do you hide the bodies when it’s the state health department that controls the medical examiner’s office? But the other felony categories? Robbery, aggravated assault, rape? Christ, what they did with that stuff was jaw-dropping.

Now for the accounting fraud. Looks like Baltimore authorities learned well from Wall Street.

So they cooked the books.

 

Oh yeah. If you hit somebody with a bullet, that had to count. If they went to the hospital with a bullet in them, it probably had to count as an aggravated assault. But if someone just took a gun out and emptied the clip and didn’t hit anything or they didn’t know if you hit anything, suddenly that was a common assault or even an unfounded report. Armed robberies became larcenies if you only had a victim’s description of a gun, but not a recovered weapon. And it only gets worse as some district commanders began to curry favor with the mayoral aides who were sitting on the Comstat data. In the Southwest District, a victim would try to make an armed robbery complaint, saying , ‘I just got robbed, somebody pointed a gun at me,’ and what they would do is tell him, well, okay, we can take the report but the first thing we have to do is run you through the computer to see if there’s any paper on you. Wait, you’re doing a warrant check on me before I can report a robbery? Oh yeah, we gotta know who you are before we take a complaint. You and everyone you’re living with? What’s your address again? You still want to report that robbery?

 

They cooked their own books in remarkable ways. Guns disappeared from reports and armed robberies became larcenies. Deadly weapons were omitted from reports and aggravated assaults became common assaults. The Baltimore Sun did a fine job looking into the dramatic drop in rapes in the city. Turned out that regardless of how insistent the victims were that they had been raped, the incidents were being quietly unfounded. That tip of the iceberg was reported, but the rest of it, no. And yet there were many veteran commanders and supervisors who were disgusted, who would privately complain about what was happening. If you weren’t a journalist obliged to quote sources and instead, say, someone writing a fictional television drama, they’d share a beer and let you fill cocktail napkins with all the ways in which felonies disappeared in those years.

 

I mean, think about it. How does the homicide rate decline by 15 percent, while the agg assault rate falls by more than double that rate. Are all of Baltimore’s felons going to gun ranges in the county? Are they becoming better shots? Have the mortality rates for serious assault victims in Baltimore, Maryland suddenly doubled? Did they suddenly close the Hopkins and University emergency rooms and return trauma care to the dark ages? It makes no sense statistically until you realize that you can’t hide a murder, but you can make an attempted murder disappear in a heartbeat, no problem.

 

But these guys weren’t satisfied with just juking their own stats. No, the O’Malley administration also went back to the last year of the previous mayoralty and performed its own retroactive assessment of those felony totals, and guess what? It was determined from this special review that the preceding administration had underreported its own crime rate, which O’Malley rectified by upgrading a good chunk of misdemeanors into felonies to fatten up the Baltimore crime rate that he was inheriting. Get it? How better than to later claim a 30 or 40 percent reduction in crime than by first juking up your inherited rate as high as she’ll go. It really was that cynical an exercise.

 

So Martin O’Malley proclaims a Baltimore Miracle and moves to Annapolis. And tellingly, when his successor as mayor allows a new police commissioner to finally de-emphasize street sweeps and mass arrests and instead focus on gun crime, that’s when the murder rate really dives. That’s when violence really goes down. When a drug arrest or a street sweep is suddenly not the standard for police work, when violence itself is directly addressed, that’s when Baltimore makes some progress.

But nothing corrects the legacy of a police department in which the entire rank-and-file has been rewarded and affirmed for collecting bodies, for ignoring probable cause, for grabbing anyone they see for whatever reason. And so, fast forward to Sandtown and the Gilmor Homes, where Freddie Gray gives some Baltimore police the legal equivalent of looking at them a second or two too long. He runs, and so when he’s caught he takes an ass-kicking and then goes into the back of a wagon without so much as a nod to the Fourth Amendment.

 

So do you see how this ends or how it begins to turn around?

 

We end the drug war. I know I sound like a broken record, but we end the fucking drug war. The drug war gives everybody permission to do anything. It gives cops permission to stop anybody, to go in anyone’s pockets, to manufacture any lie when they get to district court. You sit in the district court in Baltimore and you hear, ‘Your Honor, he was walking out of the alley and I saw him lift up the glassine bag and tap it lightly.’ No fucking dope fiend in Baltimore has ever walked out of an alley displaying a glassine bag for all the world to see. But it keeps happening over and over in the Western District court. The drug war gives everybody permission. And if it were draconian and we were fixing anything that would be one thing, but it’s draconian and it’s a disaster.

This is true about the drug war, but even more true about the “war on terror.” Also endless, also used to justify anything.

Medicalize the problem, decriminalize — I don’t need drugs to be declared legal, but if a Baltimore State’s Attorney told all his assistant state’s attorneys today, from this moment on, we are not signing overtime slips for court pay for possession, for simple loitering in a drug-free zone, for loitering, for failure to obey, we’re not signing slips for that: Nobody gets paid for that bullshit, go out and do real police work. If that were to happen, then all at once, the standards for what constitutes a worthy arrest in Baltimore would significantly improve. Take away the actual incentive to do bad or useless police work, which is what the drug war has become.

So much of what’s been happening in Baltimore for decades is now also business as usual within the highest corridors of American power. As I’ve said time and time again, incentives are the key variable here. If you’re rewarded for fraud and white collar crime, you will get more of it. If you jail the perpetrators of it, you’ll get less of it. TBTF Wall Street execs and private equity guys don’t want to sit in a jail cell for a decade, believe me. They’d sell 50 Picassos and 30 sharks soaked in formaldehyde before that ever happened.

The sad part is we aren’t even trying to change the incentive structure of status quo criminality. This is because the current generation of power players were trained and molded by the same types before them. This is all they know. Money and power are their gods. Crime is their religion. We have no choice but to stop them.

 

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Tue, 05/05/2015 - 12:36 | 6062351 overmedicatedun...
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one white guy took action in the mountains of PA a short while ago- better thinking then this kid..but still did not plan EE very well and got found and jailed...police should be careful who they come for, if ISIS wanabees no problem  EX mil types then they have problems.. fwiw.

Tue, 05/05/2015 - 13:13 | 6062496 RafterManFMJ
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Yea, that case still bugs me - what was it about?

I said day one it was personal; the cop wasted was local to the shooter, he didn't waste a female cop within his sights ... yet the story from day one was, "They didn't know each other! It wasn't targeted!"

Yeah. In rural PA you know wheret he cops are, where they live, especially the State boys.

And during his months in the woods he would have had easy pickings if he wanted to tag a few more; he's already going down for murder one, and if you've killed one the rest are free.  They cannot execute him 7 times for 7 kills...but he did not.

So in my armchair analysis is, it was personal and he knew the car number he was looking for and was unable to positively ID either male officer at night, with possible lense flare so he took them both.

Tue, 05/05/2015 - 12:38 | 6062352 Baby Eating Dingo22
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He was looking for a payday, nothing else

Why ZH  give this clown another bit of exposure is beyond me

Maury Povich and Sally Jesse the owners??

Shocking??

Defiant??

Seriously?

 

Tue, 05/05/2015 - 12:37 | 6062358 SokPOTUS
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Dude was in the crosswalk.  He wasn't even *jaywalking* !

Tue, 05/05/2015 - 12:40 | 6062366 MountainMan
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Excatly what part of curfew did this dolt not understand? He got what he deserved.

Tue, 05/05/2015 - 12:48 | 6062394 p00k1e
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Exactly.  And when Obama says turn in yer gold, ye better turn in ye gold or face the Hollow Point. 

Factoid – did you know Jesus endorsed hollow points. 

Tue, 05/05/2015 - 13:08 | 6062467 Binko
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Maybe he understood that the curfew was an unconstitutional infringement of his basic rights that was declared for no sound reason.

Tue, 05/05/2015 - 16:25 | 6063155 MountainMan
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No sound reason you say? Go ask local shop and property owners if they had no sound reason. You guys are idiots. This fuck asked for and got what he deserved.

Tue, 05/05/2015 - 12:42 | 6062371 p00k1e
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Turn the children of the police into Wind Chimes if you want this to end. 

Tue, 05/05/2015 - 12:53 | 6062419 gcjohns1971
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Holding the innocent accountable for the crimes of the guilty does not punish injustice, but expands it.

To do the right thing, you must do the right thing.  No short cuts.  No easy fixes.  No gimmicks.

Tue, 05/05/2015 - 13:02 | 6062447 gcjohns1971
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Holding the innocent accountable for the crimes of the guilty does not punish injustice, but expands it.

To do the right thing, you must do the right thing.  No short cuts.  No easy fixes.  No gimmicks.

Tue, 05/05/2015 - 13:27 | 6062545 MeelionDollerBogus
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While true in the long run the previous suggestion would work in the short-term very, very well. You'd end up getting much better cops or death-storm-troopers erasing citizens like they were little piglets.

Tue, 05/05/2015 - 13:11 | 6062481 Dr. Engali
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Yeah, killing children always works to get people on your side and change the hearts and minds of men.

Tue, 05/05/2015 - 15:05 | 6062855 shovelhead
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I think thats what won the Iraqis & Afghans over to our side.

There's nothing like a small casket to let people know you care.

Tue, 05/05/2015 - 18:21 | 6063551 cheech_wizard
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What I am about to write is not about changing the hearts and minds, because ultimately, you will never accomplish either.

The simple truth is long lasting empires were built by wiping out your enemy. Every last one of them. Men, women, and children. Because then there is not a future generation that comes back to kill you later. 

But man doesn't like this moral dilemma. But I will point out that history proves me correct. Rome vs. Carthage, and it only took 3 Punic Wars to get the job done right.

Should children pay for the sins of their parents? The Ouija board of history points to yes. And we even gave names to it. Regicide, Genocide, and the all-encompassing Democide...

Standard Disclaimer: If we are the only "intelligent" species in the cosmos, let's hope we don't get off this rock.

Tue, 05/05/2015 - 12:51 | 6062411 Billy Shears
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Politicians ruined this country deliberately at the banksters behest. Cops are just following the orders of their overlords. How can anyone have any respect for the cops? How can cops have any self-respect left? Just what is it that they think they are defending at this point, other than their own foul jobs?

Tue, 05/05/2015 - 12:57 | 6062432 Ban KKiller
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"...accounting fraud...".     Pigs have no self respect. Only respect violence, which is a shame. 

Tue, 05/05/2015 - 13:42 | 6062607 Savyindallas
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They are deliberately training bad city cops so they can eventually outlaw them and replace them with an army of feds. We need to get control of city government-get get rif of Homeland Secuirity grants and training (including Mossad trainers who teach them to treat ciutizens like the israelies treat Palestinians) and tell the goddammed feds to go back to DC, and elect good local politicians and police chiefs who understand that the role of the police is to serve and protect. 

Tue, 05/05/2015 - 12:51 | 6062413 StaresWithStares
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Awe, classic NWA...

 

Fuck tha police

Comin straight from the underground

Young nigga got it bad 'cause I'm brown

And not the other color so police think

They have the authority to kill a minority

 

Fuck that shit, 'cause I ain't tha one

For a punk muthafucka with a badge and a gun

To be beatin on, and throwin in jail

We could go toe to toe in the middle of a cell

 

Fuckin with me 'cause I'm a teenager

With a little bit of gold and a pager

Searchin my car, lookin for the product

 

Thinkin every nigga is sellin narcotics

Tue, 05/05/2015 - 13:06 | 6062416 Binko
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What's the legal basis for declaring a curfew? Essentially a curfew suspends constitutional rights and should not be legally declared short of war, insurrection or an alien invasion. But these clowns in power seem to think that anytime the public gets a bit unruly they can arbitarily declare a curfew.

That crazy business in Boston where a million sheep meekly sat in their houses because the authorities declared the whole city to be locked down becasue a couple of crazies murdered a couple of people was very eye-opening.

Tue, 05/05/2015 - 13:11 | 6062486 Government need...
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Until a group successfully uses force to repudiate unjust action, the unjust action will not only continue, but in fact, amplify.

Tue, 05/05/2015 - 16:28 | 6063163 IndyPat
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"...Essentially a curfew suspends constitutional rights and should not be legally declared short of war, insurrection or an alien invasion...."

Just so you know, I won't be "respecting" a curfew under the conditions you listed. Or any other. Fuck em.

As other have mentioned...this kid flexed some nut. Hats off to him.
Also, as others have mentioned, these topics are a very good prism for filtering out those truly committed to freedom and those that worship uniforms.

More toady motherfuckers on here than I thought.

Tue, 05/05/2015 - 12:53 | 6062420 Mike Honcho
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Define shocking

Tue, 05/05/2015 - 13:05 | 6062456 MeelionDollerBogus
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Let them eat 2x4 cake!

Free Hickory Shampoos!

Yay, we're doomed!

Tue, 05/05/2015 - 13:06 | 6062457 Crocodile
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Countries need to be divided by language, borders and cultures.  If that was done; in 50 years you would see the real issue is a lack of morality across all languages, borders and cultures...it is the human DNA.

Tue, 05/05/2015 - 13:08 | 6062461 Government need...
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To get this op right, you also need a team of armed men, in addition to your 'bait'.  Cop chases the bull, gets the horn.  Honestly, the bunching up of the cops to envelop the citizen is incredibly bad tactically.  But we're talking about a group of citizens that struggle to contain their most basic second-to-second emotions.

Tue, 05/05/2015 - 13:09 | 6062470 Jack D. Ripper
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Looks to me like press photographers paid a homeless guy to stroll in front of police (and cameras) wearing the T-shirt. He probably got $100, his 15 minutes of internet fame and a possible appearance on Oprah. The police got a chance to release some frustration, and police haters got a chance to wail and lament about brutality of law enforcement. Everybody wins!

For anyone who has never visited Baltimore, I've got some news for you: the Baltimore PD are far from the most brutal people in the city.

Tue, 05/05/2015 - 13:09 | 6062477 Government need...
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No sale.  Comparing the pigthugs favorably to the worst of imaginary elements is one strawman too far. . .

Tue, 05/05/2015 - 13:27 | 6062544 A_latvian
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I'm still waiting for somebody to ask the question of why there were cop cars abandoned in riot zones.

To (mis)quote The Matrix, "It's all another form of control."

Idiots. Democrats Don't Care About Black People.

Tue, 05/05/2015 - 13:36 | 6062586 tumblemore
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I think it's quite likely the media paid him. Quite possibly supplied the shirt too.

 

Tue, 05/05/2015 - 13:10 | 6062479 HeavydutyMexica...
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"We have no choice but to stop them."

Hahahaha settle down chuck norris....muricans aren't going to do a damn thing. This guy is just chasing the wind.

Tue, 05/05/2015 - 13:15 | 6062504 tumblemore
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Media people like David Simon are the root of the problem because they only tell half the truth. Brutal policing didn't create the gang culture. The gang culture created brutal policing.

 

Tue, 05/05/2015 - 19:12 | 6063688 MeelionDollerBogus
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No. Brutal policing is the unavoidable outcome of poor upbringing and gangs are the inevitable outcome of poor upbringing with poverty in all directions. Government in its largesse, manipulation, bid-rigging and "trade deals" which move jobs offshore are to blame the most.

Tue, 05/05/2015 - 22:08 | 6064283 tumblemore
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I agree TPTB are to blame for creating the gang culture through mass unemployment.

Tue, 05/05/2015 - 13:15 | 6062508 steveo77
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Shark attackd up 500% in Hawaii, lady just killed this week.

http://nukeprofessional.blogspot.com/2015/05/shark-attacks-and-deaths-in...

 

Tue, 05/05/2015 - 13:18 | 6062517 Government need...
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It is important to note the contribution of the celebration of 'multiculturalism' and 'diversity' to the problem on full display in B-more.  The savage feral 'citizens' involved have been coddled and excused of personal responsibility for 40+ years.  They dont have to work to put food in their mouths (EBT).  They dont have to work to put a roof over their heads (HUD).  They dont have to work to pay for health insurance (Preezycare).  So why the fuck would they behave civilly?  Further, their savagery is just the excuse 'the State' needs to foist more militarization and expropriation of Constitutional rights.  I'm not giving up my guns in an effort to reduce the gun crime committed by feral savages that have been aided and abetted by the fucking government.  Nor am I giving up any other Consititional rights.  So fucking deal with your little chimp problem, Fedcoats.  I promise you it will be easier than dealing with me when I've decided it's time to act.

Tue, 05/05/2015 - 13:18 | 6062519 Hannibal
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Amerika, love it or leave it.!

Tue, 05/05/2015 - 16:02 | 6063082 DutchBoy2015
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Left it 26 years ago and wouldn't move back for a million bucks.  Not even for a visit.  

Tue, 05/05/2015 - 19:06 | 6063677 MeelionDollerBogus
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And many more wise souls will follow. The concept of America is great. The reality is horrifying.

Tue, 05/05/2015 - 13:21 | 6062522 Duc888
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Bill Keller: What do people outside the city need to understand about what’s going on there — the death of Freddie Gray and the response to it?

 

.....Then at some point when cocaine hit and the city lost control of a lot of corners and the violence was ratcheted up, there was a real panic on the part of the government.....

 

 

What fucking government would that be?  "This" Government?

http://theafricanspear.com/2015/04/25/cia-agents-caught-with-1300lbs-of-...

 

CIA AGENTS BUSTED AT BORDER WITH 1300 lBS OF COCAINE! April 25, 2015

THIS story is so disturbing on so many levels, this website often post stories about our southern border and how OBAMA has criminally  left it unguarded so every criminal in MEXICO can simply walk in , endangering all of us. 

ALSO the amount of drugs that are flowing through the country is staggering and only add to the crime rates and more police state tactics!

THE fact that private citizens{minute men} caught these people and not the people who paid to guard our border should tell us what we’re being exposed to on a daily basis!

THIS is from WORLD NEWS DAILY REPORTS.COM, dated 4/23/15

 

TWO CIA AGENTS ARRESTED BY MINUTEMEN WHILE CROSSING MEXICAN BORDER WITH 1300 POUNDS OF COCAINE El Paso| A group of minutemen watching the Mexican Border for illegal migrants and drug traffickers, have proceeded to the citizen arrest of two men in an SUV, carrying 1300 pounds of cocaine. The volunteers were completely astonished when the two arrestees pulled out CIA ID cards and explained they were actually carrying the drug as part of their duties and that the cargo belonged to the Central Intelligence Agency.

The incident took place last night, in the Chihuahuan desert, near the Texan city of El Paso. A group of seven minutemen saw a large black SUV drive rapidly across the border. They chased the vehicle in their own trucks and achieved to immobilize it after a chase of more than 15 miles.

The vigilantes arrested the two men on board and called the border patrol, who proceeded to search the vehicle. They discovered dozens of packages of cocaine, totalling an incredible 618.4 kilograms (1363 pounds).

The two men claim to be CIA operatives based in Mexico and explained that the drug was actually part of an operation of the agency. They presented identity cards that seem to validate their claim, but the CIA spokesperson, Dean Boyd, has officially denied any link between the organization and the two men.

“The CIA doesn’t take part in drug smuggling operations at the US-Mexican border” said M. Boyd. “I do not know, for now, if the men are actually affiliated to the agency in any way, but I can tell you the cocaine doesn’t belong to the CIA.”

Both the border patrol officers and minutemen seem unconvinced, however, and many of them seem to believe that the secret service agency is hiding something. The U.S. custom services have even announced a thorough investigation to try and verify the two men’s story.

Both of them had valid accreditations and a receipt for their cargo”says Shawn Francis Miller, spokesman of the U.S. Customs and Border Protection for the El Paso sector. “What drug dealer in his right mind, demands a receipt for 1300 pounds of cocaine? There is really something strange about these guys, and we believe the CIA possibly knows more than what it is ready to admit.” 

The custom services have confirmed that the two men, who can’t be identified due to the Intelligence Identities and Protection Act of 1982, did carry valid CIA identifications and that the vehicle was indeed registered as a service vehicle of the organization.

The two men remain under the custody of the custom services at the moment, and are still being interrogated in a facility near El Paso. They are facing charges of possessing, trafficking and importing illegal drugs, and could face other criminal charges once the investigation is over.

Both the FBI and the DEA have announced that they would collaborate with the U.S. Customs and Border Protection on this case, which as already attracted a lot of attention in Southern Texas.


Tue, 05/05/2015 - 13:57 | 6062658 VWAndy
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Holly crap Duc. This is just the kind of thing that needs to be front page. They were caught in a criminal act. They get no legal protection or 5th amend protection either.

 We might not ever get a better shot. If this is legit.

Tue, 05/05/2015 - 14:43 | 6062789 samsara
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Richard Grasso (then) head of NYSE making Cold Call for business with Columbia drug trafficers. 

 

Look at the Picture.....

 

http://www.narconews.com/narcodollars1.html

In late June 1999, numerous news services, including Associated Press, reported that Richard Grasso, Chairman of the New York Stock Exchange flew to Colombia to meet with a spokesperson for Raul Reyes of the Revolutionary Armed Forces of Columbia (FARC), the supposed "narco terrorists" with whom we are now at war. The purpose of the trip was "to bring a message of cooperation from U.S. financial services" and to discuss foreign investment and the future role of U.S. businesses in Colombia. Some reading in between the lines said to me that Grasso's mission related to the continued circulation of cocaine capital through the US financial system. FARC, the Colombian rebels, were circulating their profits back into local development without the assistance of the American banking and investment system. Worse yet for the outlook for the US stock market's strength from $500 billion - $1 trillion in annual money laundering - FARC was calling for the decriminalization of cocaine.

 

Tue, 05/05/2015 - 15:46 | 6063008 samsara
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Did you notice that one of the Minutemen was a black guy? 

Patriots come in various types. Some are minutemen some just walk up to a cop with a Fuck the Police tshirt.

Tue, 05/05/2015 - 13:21 | 6062524 A_latvian
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"Shocking?" WTF? If you taunt the police, they will take you down. If you break the law (curfew), they will take you down. Learn a lesson, idiots.

Tue, 05/05/2015 - 13:35 | 6062573 Savyindallas
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You dumbass -he was arrested, restrained and there was NO REASON to stand there and pepper spray his face for over 15 seconds. What the police did was a criminal assault. Taunting the police (or anyone) after being warned to stop, could be a class c misedeamor for disturbing the peace, or whatever. Give him a ticket, or arrest him for breaking curfew - if that was an enforceable city ordinance or law at the time. You can't torture a restrained citizen, handcuffed and lying down helpless,  posing no threat -by macing him repeatedly. What is it about this that you don't understand?Have you ever heard of the Bill of Rights?

 I hope the city gets sued and pays a fortune  -over and over until they stop such tactics, or they bankrupt the Police department. Cops are out of control  -government needs to reign them in, reeducate, retrain or fire the abusers. The police chief needs to be fired immediately. 

Tue, 05/05/2015 - 13:45 | 6062619 Bastiat
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Looks to me like he got sprayed at the start for a few seconds; his hands were free.  I may have missed something but I didn't see him get sprayed again.  Towards the end when he's sitting against the wall, the cop is pouring water over his face from a plastic water bottle.  Looks like he's trying to wash off excess pepper spray.  Not arguing any larger point here, just the facts.

Tue, 05/05/2015 - 14:07 | 6062685 hoist the bs flag
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"facts?" ZH has it's own agenda...don't worry here to much about the "facts"...downvote away, carry on.

Tue, 05/05/2015 - 15:53 | 6063040 calltoaccount
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Interesting that in the entire discussion of police abuse of civil rights, no mention of chosing cops for their average/below average IQ and rejecting those with even slightly superior brainpower.  Dumb and dumber rule!

Can Someone Be Too Smart To Be A Cop? - MintPress News www.mintpressnews.com/can-someone-be-too-smart-to-be.../192106/
Tue, 05/05/2015 - 13:44 | 6062613 silverer
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So let me get this right:  the police own the streets, without the consent of the governed?  They can bash your head in, while all along you are paying their salary.  So you do work for law enforcement?  Or just pushing the agenda quietly from your safe basement?

Tue, 05/05/2015 - 15:58 | 6063064 A_latvian
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Wait, the Sheriff of Baltimore (http://sheriff.baltimorecity.gov/) wasn't elected? Nor were the judges? When did this travesty of democracy happen?

Tue, 05/05/2015 - 13:52 | 6062633 Rikeska
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You stupid fuck.

Learn a lesson dipshit. Curfew?  Fuck me running the guy was on a public street after dark so what.  Law my ass.

Black man with scary shirt and dreds?  Easy pickens.  Guys like that need a beatdown right?  He had on saggy pants so he pulled them up (Sarge, the scary black man made a furtive movement, I had to get it on)

What about when the black man becomes a dockers clad polo shirt wearing white suburban douchbag assistant to the district manager in his new leased lexus (that he can't afford) becomes the target.  Comes out of planet fitness at midnight, where he rang the lunk alarm because some buff dude grunted on the stairstepper offending his sagging man boob sensibilities is stopped by the police because he was out after curfew. 

We are doomed.  Enjoy your blue pill, you are in a fucking pod.

Tue, 05/05/2015 - 15:56 | 6063050 A_latvian
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I agree that Obama has increased the police state. But I also understand that a city has the right to enforce a temporary curfew. This is what the idiot rioters don't understand: You're fighting for COMPLETE REVOLUTION. That's not going to happen. Ever. It has never happened. Egypt still exists. Rome still exists. Russia still exists. You have to fight smarter... not harder.

Tue, 05/05/2015 - 17:13 | 6063321 MeelionDollerBogus
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It did happen - continues to happen- and that's how Libya was taken over, many South American nations had it happen, and how America was founded.

Tue, 05/05/2015 - 22:52 | 6064388 Government need...
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A few, at predestined times, scratch their nails across the chalkboard of time, attracting powers and forces that are truly unstoppable.

Tue, 05/05/2015 - 13:24 | 6062535 Vergeltung
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piece of shit got exactly what he deserved.

Tue, 05/05/2015 - 13:28 | 6062547 MeelionDollerBogus
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Know what this insurrection needs? Is it more cowbell? It's more DORNER

Tue, 05/05/2015 - 13:32 | 6062569 22winmag
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The pigs should be spraying Wall Street types armed with pen and briefcase.

 

They do far more damage to America.

Tue, 05/05/2015 - 22:12 | 6064295 tumblemore
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They should but the banking mafia own the media and they want to distract the public into fighting among themselves instead.

 

Tue, 05/05/2015 - 13:41 | 6062600 silverer
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Nothing is "shocking" anymore. The mainstream heads have effectively dumbed down the population to the numbness level necessary to disregard anything that happens anymore.  TV, more than anything else, has destroyed the USA.

Tue, 05/05/2015 - 13:54 | 6062648 Down to Earth T...
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Is there any question that we all live in massive illusions and all are created as control mechanisms ?

Tue, 05/05/2015 - 13:44 | 6062615 richsob
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To hell with this dumb bastard.  What did he expect wearing a shirt like that in front of a bunch of cops?  Cake and ice cream?  I guess he'd be surprised if he poked a tiger with a pointed stick and got mauled.

Tue, 05/05/2015 - 13:46 | 6062620 Bastiat
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He acted like was TOTALLY wasted.

Tue, 05/05/2015 - 13:47 | 6062623 Jack Burton
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"Baltimore, Maryland is in many ways the perfect microcosm for these United States of America. If you still don’t get that, you’ll be in for a rude awakening in the years ahead."

Do you know why we don't get this? Myself included. Because most of us here are living in a world where Baltimore is just not relevant to our daily home and work experience. But, I have been around America more than enough to see Baltimores everywhere, even 30 miles away from me, is a town of 100K people which has just such a social breakdown as Baltimore, and I see it every visit.

Most of us ZH posters might like to think of America as OUR section of it, not the entire 300+ million cross section. America has vast populations with no stake in Americam, and their numbers are fast including vast sections of White America, the former bedrock of stability.

Why have cops gone nuclear everywhere at once. Even in my town of 3,000 people, we have a county prison jammed with people serving long time for small crimes. They wear black and white striped jump suits and go around in cuffs, ankle and hand, with three armed guards. I saw the inside, it is like a modern gulag from 1984.

America still has patches of weath, middle class, prosperity and peace. But it is no longer a majority, but a minority situation.

Government is clamping down hard, and doing it before real trouble breaks out. We already see a Cop "Shoot to kill, anyone no obeying a direct order". If a cop stops you in your car, you are brought to your knees and basically have to crawl backwards to them, as they train a gun on your head. I remember this style of policing, it is how they policed LA in the 60-90's.  I got arrested in LA as a young sailor for being drunk, they had guns at our heads until the cuffs were on. They looked ready to beat the shit out of the three of us, until they saw our military ID's and then they backed down and treated us well. An ordinary citizen would have been beaten, I an convinced of it! Now days, this LA model is used everywhere.

Tue, 05/05/2015 - 16:00 | 6063074 samsara
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jack, from my post further down.

CNN version  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dTwIOvGUTQs

RT version https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e1gXqrUsZYM

Tue, 05/05/2015 - 13:50 | 6062634 Down to Earth T...
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You mean like "hands up don't shoot " ? which was clearly proven to be a lie yet many still are using that phrase as if it were real ? That kind of documentation ?

 

Wake up people , we all live in massive illusions and BHO is the biggest one of all time ? This is all very deliberate and likely a distraction for grander events unfolding !

 

Soon many will say "who coulda known ? as the insanity continues and grows daily. We now live in a giant criminal enterprsie known as our government and run by a true fraud and racist regime. I suppose some would call it reverse racism ? I just call it racism and manipulation.

Tue, 05/05/2015 - 13:56 | 6062653 Chuck Knoblauch
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Let's get to the real issue.

Are the Feds leaving Baltimore?

Tue, 05/05/2015 - 13:58 | 6062661 Bloodstock
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When the real shit hits the fan the cops will be running cause they won't like their odds. They'll finally figure out that the boots they've been kissing will abandon them.

Tue, 05/05/2015 - 14:08 | 6062690 pupdog1
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Big slob bro' goes out after riot curfew and gets in the coppers' faces with his FUCK THE PO-LICE shirt.

Charles Darwin takes over at that point.

Well duh.

Tue, 05/05/2015 - 18:47 | 6063618 22winmag
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Did the videographer get his ass kicked in the making of this video?

Tue, 05/05/2015 - 14:08 | 6062691 orangegeek
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idiot to taunt cops - they have guns and you don't stupidhead

 

if these idiots could ever figure out that it's their own anger fueled by their race hustling leaders, including barry, they might have a happy life one day

 

but that's not likely - more money to be made off these angry people - go ask al sharpton

Tue, 05/05/2015 - 14:08 | 6062692 BeaverCream
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He's a good keeeeid.

Tue, 05/05/2015 - 14:11 | 6062699 Salzburg1756
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We are now a third world country. You can thank the yids for that.

Tue, 05/05/2015 - 14:19 | 6062720 BustainMovealota
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Well,, he successfully got himself on youtube. Way to go,, make your mom proud.

Tue, 05/05/2015 - 14:27 | 6062746 loveyajimbo
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BFD... he violated curfew, got in the Cops face to try to show what a badass gorilla he was... wearing a FUCK YOU t-shirt... refused to obey a lawful order, got sprayed... what is the problem here?  I would have nut-kicked him too.

Tue, 05/05/2015 - 14:42 | 6062788 Bill of Rights
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Sure you would have, wearing your Captain America suit and matching boots.

 

 

Tue, 05/05/2015 - 15:13 | 6062898 jomama
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20 yellenbux says that guy is a soft bellied bald white guy who wouldn't say a god damn thing if that guy in the video rolled up to him in person.

Tue, 05/05/2015 - 14:29 | 6062752 GRDguy
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If you remember a little bit of history, Gary Webb (investigative journalist) wrote the Dark Alliance, where government agents and cops brought cocaine to the streets of Los Angeles to finance their private war. And the circle continues. 

Tue, 05/05/2015 - 14:32 | 6062761 newsoutlet
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Putin’s Crimea film borrows from Nazi propaganda film about Sudetenland

It turns out that the Kremlin is not that creative.  According to an article posted online on 29 March 2015, the Kremlin’s recent propaganda film celebrating the anniversary of Russia’s annexation of Crimea [“Crimea. The Way Home”], borrows heavily from a 1939 Nazi propaganda film about Sudetenland.

The creators of the Russian propaganda film “Crimea. The Way Home” which was filmed on the anniversary of the occupation of the peninsula by troops of the Russian Federation, was inspired by a 1939 German film, dedicated to the occupation of the Sudetenland region of Czechoslovakia.

Even the 1939 film’s title “German Sudetenland Returns Home” is mimicked by the Kremlin, the article says.

The film describes how as a result of the unfair Treaty of Versailles the Germans of Austria-Hungary became part of Czechoslovakia, and how justice was then done in 1939. Much of what is heard in the Nazi’s agitprop film is virtually identical to what the Russian media write today and what is shown on Russian television.

A 10-minute clip from the German film is currently available online.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IkLNiO0exdk 

“In 1918 the Germans of Austria and the Sudetenland Germans were in favor of joining the German homeland. But they are still divided from one another. German Austria became an independent state. German Sudetenland was forced to enter into a multinational state.

So a never-ending grief has come to our Sudeten brothers. 20 years of Czechs rule has made a once flourishing province into an impoverished territory. Factories are closed, one in three Germans out of work and starving. Endless misery is suffered by our Sudeten brothers,” says the German film.

The next voice-over talks about meetings, which were conducted by the Sudeten Germans, led by Konrad Henlein, fighting for their “right to be German” and that Prague has long provoked Germany and tried to ignite a war in Europe.

“The Czech authorities with the help of ruthless violence want to further enslave the Sudeten population. Cannons and guns are wielded by the Czech military. Tens of thousands of refugees, German brothers, cross the border and seek refuge in the Reich.”

The article continues drawing parallels between the two films:

“…in the Russian film “Crimea. The Way Home”, Russian President Vladimir Putin also said that the inhabitants of the peninsula were suffering from Ukrainian oppression.

“We cannot leave this are and the people who live there to fend for themselves, under the rule of nationalists,” he said in the interview. Putin also said that they had occupied Crimea only because the Crimean population wished it. In his film, the Russians, like the Nazis, claimed that the government in Kyiv was preparing to massacre of the inhabitants of Crimea.

“Almost the same tricks and manipulation are used in both of the propaganda films,” the article states.

“…the German film explains how the leader of the Sudeten Germans Konrad Henlein organised German units “militias” and tens of thousands of Germans “volunteered to defend their homeland against the excesses of the Czech military clique”. Nearly similar statements are heard in the movie “Crimea. The Way Home”, created with the Kremlin’s money.

In his speech, the leader of the Sudeten Germans, Konrad Henlein says:

“For 20 years we were forced to live in a country we do not like. To which we do not belong. Which was only done to cheat our people.”

The article continues, “The exact same statements can be heard with respect to Ukraine by Russian propagandists.”  And concludes:

 

Some shots of the German film of the Sudetenland are painfully reminiscent of the events of Spring 2014 in Crimea and the Donbas. They tear down Czech flags and signs from the homes of the Sudeten Germans, and hang instead Hitler’s swastika. Symbols of the Nazi Party were placed on Czech license plates. The same thing was done today by the separatists in Luhansk and Donetsk, who glued their own symbols over the Ukrainian flag on license plates.

And both the German and Russian films argue that the populations of the annexed territories gladly met occupation troops as liberators.

 

Tue, 05/05/2015 - 15:45 | 6063004 DutchBoy2015
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Why don't you watch this documentary made by an American last year in Crimea after liberation .

I doubt you will watch it.  Easier for you to believe propaganda from FOXCNNABCBSNBC and BBC to fill your empty skull

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W1zvb_ottiw

Tue, 05/05/2015 - 14:36 | 6062766 Meremortal
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Nobody read all that, did they? Cute the way the video had all the preliminaries cut out. I'm shocked anyone would be shocked by that tame video. You guys need to go look at some film from Chicago in '68, and Watts in '65.

 

THIS is much better:


www.youtube.com/watch?v=uj0mtxXEGE8

Tue, 05/05/2015 - 15:19 | 6062924 steelrules
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As much as I don't like most of Chris Rock's comedy, that was funny.

 

Tue, 05/05/2015 - 17:27 | 6063385 Jethro
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He's a bit of a drama queen, but he has his moments.  Or as my dad says, even a broken clock is right twice a day.

Tue, 05/05/2015 - 16:23 | 6063150 pupdog1
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Hilarious.

Chris Rock is the heir to Carlin in the astuteness of his social obversations. He famously said Niggers make it awfully hard on black folks.

 

Tue, 05/05/2015 - 14:39 | 6062775 Jack Burton
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"In my admittedly subjective opinion the level of disgust of most American people with the Federal government is already sky high.  Sure, most people feel impotent and believe that there is nothing they can do about it.  When they vote for peace, they get more war.  When they vote for less taxes, they get more.  When they vote for more civil rights, they get less.  There is an entire generation of Americans out there which is as disillusioned and as disgusted with their own rulers as the Soviets were with their rulers in  the 1970s and 1980s. Interestingly, there is definitely a strong anti-regime movement of American patriots out there.  These are folks who have the wisdom to differentiate between, on one hand, their country, their people, the ideals upon which the US society was originally built, and, on the other hand, regime in DC and the 1% of the population whose interests this regime works for.  Amazing, no?  The Soviet Union had its formal nomenklatura while the USA has it own, informal, one.  About 1% of the population in each case."

Saker,

The Saker runs his own blog and this was part of a long article in which he believes the USA is headed down the path of change, equal to the level of change when the USSR was forced to disband communism and it's leaders, due to rank lies and hypocrisy.

Tue, 05/05/2015 - 14:40 | 6062779 Bill of Rights
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Curfews are unconstitutional

Tue, 05/05/2015 - 22:57 | 6064402 Government need...
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A curfew is a bid in the marketplace.  One can always seek to renegotiate the terms of that deal.

Tue, 05/05/2015 - 14:42 | 6062785 Jack Burton
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"

1)   A bloated military budget resulting in an ineffective military
2)   A huge and ineffective intelligence community
3)   A crumbling public infrastructure
4)   A world record in the per-capita ratio of incarcerated people (US GULag)
5)   A propaganda machine which nobody trusts any more
6)   An internal dissident movement which the regime tries to keep silent
7)   A systematic use of violence against the citizens
8)   An increase in tensions between Federal and local authorities
9)   An industry whose main exports are weapons and energy
10) A population fearful of being spied on by the internal security services
11) A systematic assimilation of dissent with espionage and terrorism
12) A all-prevailing paranoia about internal and external enemies
13) A financially catastrophic over-reach of the empire across the planet
14) An awareness that the entire planet hates you
15) A subservient press-corps of presstitutes who never dare to ask the real questions
16) A sky-high rate of substance abuse
17) A young generation which believes in nothing at all
18) An educational system in free-fall (the Soviet one was much better, btw)
19) A disgust with politics by the general public
20) A massive and prevailing amount corruption on all levels of power"

Saker's guide to modern America, and the former Soviet Union. What we shared is an internal rot.

Tue, 05/05/2015 - 15:44 | 6063002 vietnamvet
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Welcome to the failed state otherwise called "the United States".

Tue, 05/05/2015 - 21:45 | 6064175 teutonicate
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Good summary, but you forgot

21) A media, banking system, military and political system controlled by a globalist cabal that in many cases has duel citizenship and has no concern whatsoever for Americans.

Most of the phenomena that you mention are a result of policies that have been either originated or supported by this cabal for their own benefit.

Its a much less complicated problem than we have been lead to believe.

Tue, 05/05/2015 - 14:43 | 6062792 Bunga Bunga
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Calm down, just little games for television, so that the sheeples in middleclass suburbia want their police militarized.

Tue, 05/05/2015 - 14:45 | 6062797 Jack Burton
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15) A subservient press-corps of presstitutes who never dare to ask the real questions

The most important and obvious one! Number 15, our whore media. Just turn on CNN right now, for 5 minutes, and listen to the level of vomit spewing from the mouths of liar whores and pimps for Zionism. Zionism is a cancer eating away all of Washington DC. We are in fact, RULED, by Zionists. Only when we wake up to that reality, does anything change.

Tue, 05/05/2015 - 15:21 | 6062927 Titus
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Some quotes from the link above:

 

"For months now the struggle against Germany is waged by each Jewish community, at each conference, in all our syndicates, and by each Jew all over the world. There is reason to believe that our part in this struggle has general value. We will trigger a spiritual and material war of all the world against Germany's ambitions to become once again a great nation, to recover lost territories and colonies. But our Jewish interests demand the complete destruction of Germany. Collectively and individually, the German nation is a threat to us Jews." - Vladimir Jabotinsky (founder of the Jewish terrorist group, Irgun Zvai Leumi) in Mascha Rjetsch, January, 1934 (also quoted in "Histoire de l'Armée Allemande" by Jacques Benoist-Mechin, Vol. IV, p. 303).

"Hitler will have no war (does not want war), but we will force it on him, not this year, but soon." - Emil Ludwig Cohn in Les Annales, June, 1934 (also quoted in his book "The New Holy Alliance").

"We want to bring about a deep hatred for the Germans, for German soldiers, sailors, and airmen. We must hate until we win." - Lord Beaverbrook, quoted in Niemals! by Heinrich Goitsch.

Tue, 05/05/2015 - 14:51 | 6062818 Ms No
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This whole scenario still isn't much compared to the Seattle WTO riots.  Cops were launching gas canisters onto city buses, attacking pregnant women and everyone else.  The whole city was enraged and "went out" as they say.

Tue, 05/05/2015 - 16:46 | 6063214 Joe A
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The Battle of Seattle. That was quite something. First wake up call for the TPTB. They were really shaken by this. They assumed that as long as you keep giving people TV, convenience stores and junk food they'd be happy and quiet.

They cleverly responded by taking over the vocabulary and highjacking the debate. So much smarter than just applying randomn violence.

Tue, 05/05/2015 - 15:02 | 6062843 Nimby
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Nigger acted hard when he first got sprayed.  Didn't seem too hard when he was lying on the ground crying.

Tue, 05/05/2015 - 15:03 | 6062848 Nimby
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BTW, NFL rules specifically allow for pulling long hair (to include dreds) to effect a tackle.

Tue, 05/05/2015 - 15:11 | 6062888 jomama
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Wow you sound so tough from behind your keyboard.

Tue, 05/05/2015 - 17:25 | 6063375 Jethro
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To be fair, getting pepper sprayed sucks.  Your eyes automatically shut, then your mucus goes into overdrive.  It is fairly painful, but it does wonders for clearing your sinuses.  I'd much rather ger tear gassed than pepper sprayed, but I guess that's a matter of personal preference.

Tue, 05/05/2015 - 15:12 | 6062891 RaymondKHessel
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Yawn. Just another episode of COPS.

Tue, 05/05/2015 - 15:17 | 6062915 holgerdanske
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What is being dished out to the American population is the same as America has been dishing out to people all over the world since the 1950s.

Only trying the shoe on will create awareness. Now people on the street in the US are starting to see the monster they have allowed to grow like a cancer in their own country.

 

Wake up, resist.

Tue, 05/05/2015 - 15:41 | 6062988 DutchBoy2015
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Karma.   A nation that goes out of its borders to carry out wars of aggression will suffer immense karmic retribution in myriad forms  -  Buddha Nichiren Daishonin  year 1253.  A

Tue, 05/05/2015 - 15:23 | 6062936 PleasedToMeatYou
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It's a good thing for the police that there are no guns allowed in The People's Democratic Republic of Maryland.  That way no criminals will be carrying one. 

Tue, 05/05/2015 - 15:24 | 6062937 Joe Tierney
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I'm supposed to have sympathy for this lawless, stupid puke??????

 

If you don't like reasonable efforts by the authorities to restore order, then you're just like this puke, and should be pepper-sprayed, at a minimum.

 

Declaring and enforcing a curfew, under the circumstances, is reasonable. Violating it like this idiot did is criminal. He got less than he deserved.

 

The Tylers, and all the rest of you that are anarchists, sitting in the safety and comfort of your video game cellars and venting your diseased spleens about what you see as police brutality, man-up and take your worthless asses to the front lines - and take video cams with you - I wanna see how you 'stand up' to the police, and how you handle your due punishment. Put your money where your damn big mouths are always spewing anarchy and violence.

 

There's a better way to confront the issue - your way plays right into their hands - you idiots!

Tue, 05/05/2015 - 15:48 | 6063013 shovelhead
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 There's a better way to confront the issue

 

Tell em you can't breathe?

Tue, 05/05/2015 - 15:48 | 6063015 samsara
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There's a better way to confront the issue

We can Vote,

We can write letters to our congressman...

Lets see, what else.

Sign a petition...

Tue, 05/05/2015 - 17:22 | 6063358 Jethro
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Soap box

Ballot box

Ammo box

Tue, 05/05/2015 - 15:40 | 6062987 kchrisc
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My treason list just got longer.

Liberty is a demand. Tyranny is submission.

Tue, 05/05/2015 - 17:40 | 6063434 TeethVillage88s
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"This is another fascinating microcosm considering how Barack Obama has done absolutely nothing to help the black community or poor in this country. It took a black President to so shamelessly hand everything to a handful of oligarchs and further oppress black communities."

- Can't find 101 Patriotic Senators in VICHY DC.

And the President with all his flowery words about Spirit, Human Needs, and Real Dreams has no Substance nor understanding of people.

It is like Colonialism giving beads to Indigenous people while planing to removal 90% of the Resources from the land making them a poor miserable people.

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- Barack Obama's presidential Legacy -
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- Babbles and Beads for Indigenous Black Communities
- Support for Corporate Fascism
- Expansion of Corporate Globalism
- Complete End to US Sovereignty of Counties & States
- New International Courts with Power over the USA

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- Barack Obama's presidential Legacy -
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Tue, 05/05/2015 - 15:43 | 6062996 Rastadamus
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I did not see the rabid white boys coming out with such bile when Cliven Bundy's people were aiming loaded weapons at Federal agents.
Too bad this nation is doomed from it's own hatred and ignorance. 

Tue, 05/05/2015 - 23:01 | 6064414 kchrisc
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Whites shoot better, while blacks, unfortunately, loot better.

Liberty is a demand. Tyranny is submission.

Tue, 05/05/2015 - 15:43 | 6063000 combatsnoopy
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Since they're going to reward whatever, I believe it was the Crips who set up cerfew in South Central LA, aka. "SOLA" for gentrification and mugging purposes. 

Tue, 05/05/2015 - 15:50 | 6063024 pot_and_kettle
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Next time da bruthah shoulda watched this first

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=igQDvYOt_iA

Tue, 05/05/2015 - 15:52 | 6063032 The Wedge
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"As Mike noted previously, the situation in Baltimore is very serious and all Americans should be paying very close attention; but Baltimore is just a Microcosm of America."

 

Baltimore is not a fucking microcosm of America. I'm sick of people pushing race war non-sense. Left to our own devices most people do not care about the amount of pigmentation in a persons skin. There are haters from all races no doubt but they do not represent the whole. Police crimes are not prevalent across the country. It does happen as it always has but not at seemingly epic levels as it is portrayed. The internet is an amazing communication system but has a tendency to distort reality. And we do not live in a police state. That's fucking absurd. Most of us posting comments on the Hedge wouldn't know a police state if it made camp in our asses. The increased militarization of police is a disturbing trend, no doubt but a police state is when you have to bribe the military to go to market. A police state is when tanks, 50 cals etc. are common sights in neighborhoods. A police state is when military controls your every movement. Increased swat team for seemingly minor criminals is a disturbing trend. And agencies with huge arsenals that don't need them like the BLM is disturbing but not a police state.

Tue, 05/05/2015 - 15:56 | 6063049 stonehands
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The war on drugs will NEVER end.

It is the defining legacy of the hollyood actor ronald reagan

Anyone  who gets involved with alcohol/drugs is a fool.

YOU GIVE THEM THE BULLETS TO SHOOT YOU  WITH. 

Tue, 05/05/2015 - 16:37 | 6063185 The worst trader
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What I saw was the police performimg the job given to them by higher up, then go out of thier way to comfort his pain. So maybe not fuck the police but fuck there bosses?

Tue, 05/05/2015 - 16:40 | 6063193 all-priced-in
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When you play stupid games

 

You win stupid prizes

 

A white guy says -

Hold my beer and watch this.

 

What did this guy say before he went out into the street?

 

Tue, 05/05/2015 - 17:03 | 6063287 Jethro
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Hold my crackpipe and EBT card?

Tue, 05/05/2015 - 16:49 | 6063227 CaptainMoonlight
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... if Obama had a son that said "fk da po-lice"...

Police: "If you don't have your IDs you are subject to arrest."

Uh oh, you po-po better not tell Obama you are going after his illegals... he'll get all up in yo grill, yo.

 

 

 

Tue, 05/05/2015 - 16:54 | 6063248 BlussMann
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A micorcosm of Black Ruled America - more to come as YT's numbers decline. Just keep reading To Kill a Mockingjay and watching De Hep - you'll see it's all YT's fault.

Tue, 05/05/2015 - 17:03 | 6063289 Rentier88
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Don't live there not my problem...MSM trying to make other people's problems your drama keeps your eyes off the real issues.

Tue, 05/05/2015 - 17:03 | 6063291 NoWayJose
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Don't understand the down arrows for posts that think the cops were just doing their jobs DURING a curfew. This guy actually got off pretty easy, and received some medical attention with the water. Pepper spray does not stop a psycho or someone high on drugs. His first reaction after being sprayed was not to react - that is NOT a normal action - so he was juiced on something.

And besides - if he had a shirt on that said "F##k Goldman" and stood outside Goldman's HQ - he would be feeding the fishes...

Tue, 05/05/2015 - 19:14 | 6063697 honestann
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A curfew is OVERT SLAVERY.  A curfew is saying to innocent people, "You cannot go about your life, you must imprison yourself at our command".

Wake up... all you who accept the notion of "authority".

So-called "authority" is pure FICTION.

Real "authority" is impossible.

Do not defend predators!

Tue, 05/05/2015 - 17:10 | 6063310 Tachyonic
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Bodymore, Murdaland

Tue, 05/05/2015 - 17:15 | 6063323 NoWayJose
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I have NO DOUBT in my mind, that when the real SHTF, that our 'leaders' will cripple the ability of our cops to respond appropriately until it is too late. Once the the rioters start shooting at the cops, those thin blue walls will collapse and run. At that point it will be house-to-house fighting between rioters and the National Guard, all done under Martial Law, and with lots of collateral damage. That is the purpose of Jade Helm - to be able to secure the cities and to hunt down any preppers or militia outside the cities.

Tue, 05/05/2015 - 17:15 | 6063327 loub215
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Wonder how i would do if i walked that neighborhood at night sporting my "FUCK the Homies" tee shirt...

Two words, perspective and context... please...

WTF

Tue, 05/05/2015 - 17:18 | 6063341 large_wooden_badger
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Read Gulag Archipeligo, this is how it started. Stuff the trains to populate the gulags, justify your existence. "Reduce crime."

Tue, 05/05/2015 - 17:36 | 6063418 DeanWinchester717
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I cannot WAIT for you self righteous judgemental people posting here today to experience the martial law that is coming.. finally YOU TOO will experience what these people are and have been angry about for so long.  YOU TOO will be pulled out of your comfort zone perched above everyone else pointing and judging and assuming no fault of your own for what is happening in this country.  JUDGEMENT WILL COME FOR ALL OF US - YOU INCLUDED!  Good luck all you perfect people LOL.  

Tue, 05/05/2015 - 17:38 | 6063429 DutchBoy2015
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Carter: Reunification With Russia Was 'Something Crimean People Wanted'

 

Ex-president of the United States Jimmy Carter said that Crimea’s reunification with Russia was "an almost inevitable move" as it was backed first of all by the Crimean people, and thus, it cannot be changed in the near future.

Read more: whatreallyhappened.com http://whatreallyhappened.com/#ixzz3ZIox6wtx

Tue, 05/05/2015 - 18:33 | 6063574 FPearl602
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Where are Huey Newton and Eldridge Cleaver when you really need them?

Tue, 05/05/2015 - 18:44 | 6063608 22winmag
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You thought apartheid was bad?

 

They didn't do away with it, they imported it.

 

Ethnic enclaves galore.

Tue, 05/05/2015 - 19:16 | 6063700 mastersnark
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"The suspect engaged in an aggressive maneuver, bowing up and looking into my eyes and refused to obey my lawful command to leave the area immediately pursuant to the emergency curfew. Fearing for my safety and the safety of the other officers standing next to me, I discharged my department-issued OC spray in the approved manner. The suspect continued to stand in an aggressive fashion as I continued to fear for my safety. The suspect reached with both hands for the waistband of his pants, so I then executed a head-control technique on the suspect and guided the suspect to the ground."

Yeah, I've read like a million of these reports...

Tue, 05/05/2015 - 19:32 | 6063766 Wahooo
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No backs were broken in the making of this film.

Tue, 05/05/2015 - 20:09 | 6063909 theyjustcantstop
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one of the most spot on comments was, what Hitler did was legal.

roughly, Rothschild's quote, I don't care how many people vote, or who they vote for, as long I control the people who make the laws, and count the votes.

politicians, and the .001% have ruined america for everyone.

Baltimore was no different than Ferguson, and no different than the hundred before, as long as the houses and businesses were burned and looted in the appropriate neighborhoods, all is well.

what would the rule of engagement been on a cvs next-door to the mayors house?

 

 

 

 

 

Tue, 05/05/2015 - 20:24 | 6063964 Longarm
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When policemen break the law there isn't any law and it's just a fight for survival.

                                                                                                          Billy Jack

Tue, 05/05/2015 - 20:26 | 6063969 Pancho de Villa
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Shit... Even I don't ride into town wearing a "Fuck the Gringos" T-Shirt...

Tue, 05/05/2015 - 20:32 | 6063984 Sizzurp
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If you are going to try that, bring several hundred of your friends.  "Everything counts in large amounts."

Tue, 05/05/2015 - 21:53 | 6064187 Sauerkraut-Opinion
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Poor man. And what a lack of empathy by this police-men. 

 

Tue, 05/05/2015 - 22:45 | 6064371 TeethVillage88s
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There is a certain lack of context in the video.

I commented on this hours ago, but didn't mention that. Anyway I can see how the man may have been either a brave activist or a person on heroin wearing a T-Shrit.

Whack-a-Mole

Guy with a T-Shirt approaches Police, maybe he gets a payoff from friends, family, or a gang. He get's whacked with Pepper Spray, handcuffed, dragged.

The Police seem to help him. He is screwed with pepper spray, but the police place him in an area with air and light. They give him some water at some point to rinse his eyes.

I hope I only get dragged on a side walk, but pepper spray might be a come to Jesus Moment.

- Maybe this is your point, that he got sympathy
- He doesn't fight, so not sure why he had to get pepper sprayed except he obstructed, got in the way, confronted a police force instructed to disperse all civilians

Maybe he wanted to distract the police and be a pawn in the strategy of others...

Wed, 05/06/2015 - 08:38 | 6065073 IndianaJohn
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You saw the heroin shadow too?

Tue, 05/05/2015 - 22:16 | 6064304 Buster Cherry
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What a stupid fuck.

Was he expecting a better reception? Nothing poor about that turd, he was looking to make the news....

Tue, 05/05/2015 - 22:29 | 6064344 Keyboard Kommando
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.45 ammo

The buck stops here!

Tue, 05/05/2015 - 22:42 | 6064368 tumblemore
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So a dude just rocks up in the best tshirt possible for the media narrative in the perfect spot for a camera crew.

The crew would have to gamble on the police over-reacting but that's probably a pretty safe bet at the moment.

Tue, 05/05/2015 - 22:50 | 6064383 MeBizarro
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Good to see enough people on here recognize that this is an example of civil disobedience and yet this is how he is treated.  Same idiots on here who are ranting about 'black this, black that' and 'obey the law' are the same idiots stuck in the black/white paradigm and just what the media wants people to see this issue as - a racial one and not one about law enforcement and their increasingly aggressively tactics across the board including lethal force that is completely inappropriate for the situation at hand.  

Tue, 05/05/2015 - 23:10 | 6064439 dsty
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obama's brown shirts will be much nicer

they have had etiquette learned in prison

just wait

you'll see

Tue, 05/05/2015 - 23:32 | 6064480 Salsipuedes
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If Jamie Fox was in that shirt he'd get a big laugh and free cocktails.

Wed, 05/06/2015 - 03:20 | 6064731 Rakksan
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Burn the city down. Only thing power respects is money. Nazi behavior by the police is bad for business. Burn,burn, and burn.

Wed, 05/06/2015 - 04:32 | 6064784 Obama LaForge
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Hey, let's start legalizing drugs. All our problems will be solved.

Wed, 05/06/2015 - 08:07 | 6064974 d edwards
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f ing smart ass in video went looking for trouble and found it. cops should go on strike for about three days then listen to everybody whine.

Wed, 05/06/2015 - 08:33 | 6065055 IndianaJohn
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I thought that niggers was smart until I saw that video.

Wed, 05/06/2015 - 09:05 | 6065196 gcjohns1971
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The most important time to act according to the values you want to prevail in society is when you are dealt with unjustly.

Those whose professed values are only for sunny days and laughter, are hypocrites.   The justice and recitutude of a person's behavior when under stress, under fire, in the clutches of unjust peril, is the measure of the society they can create.

It is not how you behave when at your best that defines you.  It is how you behave at your worst.

 

To those who would harm innocent children because of the actions of their parents, or worse, the simple fact of their employment, I say this:

Nothing done to you, who would victimize the innocent in the name of justice, is unjust.

Do NOT follow this link or you will be banned from the site!