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Someone Finally Read Obama's Secret Trade Deal And Admits The TPP "Will Damage This Nation"
There is a huge paradox surrounding what is supposed to be the crowning achievement of Obama's second term, the Trans Pacific Partnership (TPP), a bill whose contents virtually nobody is familiar with or will be before it passes into law.
That's not the paradox: the paradox is that back in October 2009, the White House Press secretary said that "the President has returned to a stance of transparency and ethics that hasn't been matched by any other White House.... the President believes strongly in transparency... that transparency in that way in the best policy."
Or to paraphrase Nancy Pelosi, "we have to pass the bill so that you can find out what is in it."
And yet while everyone seems to have an opinion on the final formulation of the TPP bill, especially Elizabeth Warren and her circle of progressive democrats who have emerged as the bill's most vocal critics, the truth is that none have actually read it for the simple reason that anyone who is familiar with its text could be jailed for disclosing its contents.
Most transparent administration indeed.
We won't even comment that those who don't care to have their opinion made public and do have access to the bill have also not read the massive bill which layers giveaway upon giveaway to mega corporations: in fact the only ones who are intimately familiar with the TPP's contents are those who drafted it: America's multinational corporations whose shareholders will be the biggest beneficiaries of the TPP.
And yet someone appears to have finally read Obama's TPP: that someone is Michael Wessel, a cleared liaison to two statutory advisory committees and a commissioner on the U.S. Trade Deficit Review Commission, as well as the international trade co-chair for the Kerry-Edwards Presidential Campaign.
Earlier today, Wessel wrote an article in Politico titled "I’ve Read Obama’s Secret Trade Deal. Elizabeth Warren Is Right to Be Concerned" which we agree with wholeheartedly because while one may or may not disgree whether the US economy will benefit from a trade agreement which anecdotally benefits large multinationals, it should be unanimous that America's transformation into a secretive, klepto-fascist state controlled by corporations is catastrophic for not only the republic but America's people, or at least those who are not among the 0.001% who stand to benefit from the TPP.
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From Michael Wessel, first posted in Politico:
I’ve Read Obama’s Secret Trade Deal. Elizabeth Warren Is Right to Be Concerned.
"You need to tell me what’s wrong with this trade agreement, not one that was passed 25 years ago,” a frustrated President Barack Obama recently complained about criticisms of the Trans Pacific Partnership (TPP). He’s right. The public criticisms of the TPP have been vague. That’s by design—anyone who has read the text of the agreement could be jailed for disclosing its contents. I’ve actually read the TPP text provided to the government’s own advisors, and I’ve given the president an earful about how this trade deal will damage this nation. But I can’t share my criticisms with you.
I can tell you that Elizabeth Warren is right about her criticism of the trade deal. We should be very concerned about what's hidden in this trade deal—and particularly how the Obama administration is keeping information secret even from those of us who are supposed to provide advice.
So-called “cleared advisors” like me are prohibited from sharing publicly the criticisms we’ve lodged about specific proposals and approaches. The government has created a perfect Catch 22: The law prohibits us from talking about the specifics of what we’ve seen, allowing the president to criticize us for not being specific. Instead of simply admitting that he disagrees with me—and with many other cleared advisors—about the merits of the TPP, the president instead pretends that our specific, pointed criticisms don’t exist.
What I can tell you is that the administration is being unfair to those who are raising proper questions about the harms the TPP would do. To the administration, everyone who questions their approach is branded as a protectionist—or worse—dishonest. They broadly criticize organized labor, despite the fact that unions have been the primary force in America pushing for strong rules to promote opportunity and jobs. And they dismiss individuals like me who believe that, first and foremost, a trade agreement should promote the interests of domestic producers and their employees.
I’ve been deeply involved in trade policy for almost four decades. For 21 years, I worked for former Democratic Leader Richard Gephardt and handled all trade policy issues including “fast track,” the North American Free Trade Agreement and the World Trade Organization’s Uruguay Round, which is the largest trade agreement in history. I am also a consultant to various domestic producers and the United Steelworkers union, for whom I serve as a cleared advisor on two trade advisory committees. To top it off, I was a publicly acknowledged advisor to the Obama campaign in 2008.
Obama may no longer be listening to my advice, but Hillary Clinton and Elizabeth Warren might as well be. Warren, of course, has been perhaps the deal’s most vocal critic, but even the more cautious Clinton has raised the right questions on what a good TPP would look like. Her spokesman, Nick Merrill, said: “She will be watching closely to see what is being done to crack down on currency manipulation, improve labor rights, protect the environment and health, promote transparency and open new opportunities for our small businesses to export overseas. As she warned in her book Hard Choices, we shouldn’t be giving special rights to corporations at the expense of workers and consumers.”
On this count, the current TPP doesn’t measure up. And nothing being considered by Congress right now would ensure that the TPP meets the goal of promoting domestic production and job creation.
The text of the TPP, like all trade deals, is a closely guarded secret. That fact makes a genuine public debate impossible and should make robust debate behind closed doors all the more essential. But the ability of TPP critics like me to point out the deal’s many failings is limited by the government’s surprising and unprecedented refusal to make revisions to the language in the TPP fully available to cleared advisors.
Bill Clinton didn’t operate like this. During the debate on NAFTA, as a cleared advisor for the Democratic leadership, I had a copy of the entire text in a safe next to my desk and regularly was briefed on the specifics of the negotiations, including counterproposals made by Mexico and Canada. During the TPP negotiations, the United States Trade Representative (USTR) has never shared proposals being advanced by other TPP partners. Today’s consultations are, in many ways, much more restrictive than those under past administrations.
All advisors, and any liaisons, are required to have security clearances, which entail extensive paperwork and background investigations, before they are able to review text and participate in briefings. But, despite clearances, and a statutory duty to provide advice, advisors do not have access to all the materials that a reasonable person would need to do the job. The negotiators provide us with “proposals” but those are merely initial proposals to trading partners. We are not allowed to see counter-proposals from our trading partners. Often, advisors are provided with updates indicating that the final text will balance all appropriate stakeholder interests but we frequently receive few additional details beyond that flimsy assurance.
Those details have enormous repercussions. For instance, rules of origin specify how much of a product must originate within the TPP countries for the resulting product to be eligible for duty-free treatment. These are complex rules that decide where a company will manufacture its products and where is will purchase raw materials. Under the North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA), 62.5 percent of a car needed to originate within NAFTA countries. In the US-Australia Free Trade Agreement, it was lowered to 50 percent. It further dropped to 35 percent in the US-Korea Free Trade Agreement (KORUS). In essence, under our agreement with Korea, 65 percent of a car from South Korea could be made from Chinese parts and still qualify for duty-free treatment when exported to the U.S.
That fact is politically toxic, and for that reason, we should expect the TPP agreement to have higher standards. But will it reach the 62.5 percent NAFTA requirement? Or will it be only a slight improvement over KORUS? Without access to the final text of the agreement, it’s impossible to say.
State-owned enterprises may, for the first time, be addressed in the TPP. But, once again, the details are not clear. Will exemptions be provided to countries like Vietnam, Malaysia and Singapore, all of which could be heavily impacted by such a rule? What will be the test to determine what is or is not acceptable behavior? Will injury be required to occur over a substantial period of time, or will individual acts of non-commercial, damaging trade practices be actionable? Again, it’s impossible to say for sure.
Advisors are almost flying blind on these questions and others.
Only portions of the text have been provided, to be read under the watchful eye of a USTR official. Access, up until recently, was provided on secure web sites. But the government-run website does not contain the most-up-to-date information for cleared advisors. To get that information, we have to travel to certain government facilities and sign in to read the materials. Even then, the administration determines what we can and cannot review and, often, they provide carefully edited summaries rather than the actual underlying text, which is critical to really understanding the consequences of the agreement.
Cleared advisors were created by statute to advise our nation’s trade negotiators. There is a hierarchal structure, starting with the USTR’s Advisory Committee on Trade Policy & Negotiations at the top—a committee that includes people like Steelworkers President Leo Gerard, Mastercard CEO Ajay Banga, Etsy CEO Chad Dickerson and Jill Appell, co-owner of Appell’s Pork Farms. Then there are specific Committees covering subjects like labor, the environment and agriculture that make up the next tier. The last tier consists of the Industry Trade Advisory Committees (ITACS), which focus on individual sectors such as steel and aerospace. At last count, there were more than 600 cleared advisors. The vast majority of them represent business interests.
In an effort to diminish criticism, USTR is now letting cleared advisors review summaries of what the negotiators have done. In response to a question about when the full updated text will be made available, we’ve been told, “We are working on making them available as soon as possible.” That’s not the case overseas: Our trading partners have this text, but the government’s own cleared advisors, serving on statutorily-created advisory committees, are kept in the dark.
How can we properly advise, without knowing the details?
Questions pervade virtually every chapter of the proposed agreement, including labor and the environment, investor-state, intellectual property and others. The answers to these questions affect the sourcing and investment decisions of our companies and resulting jobs for our people. Our elected representatives would be abdicating their Constitutional duty if they failed to raise questions.
Senator Warren should be commended for her courage in standing up to the President, and Secretary Clinton for raising a note of caution, and I encourage all elected officials to raise these important questions. Working Americans can’t afford more failed trade agreements and trade policies.
Congress should refuse to pass fast track trade negotiating authority until the partnership between the branches, and the trust of the American people is restored. That will require a lot of fence mending and disclosure of exactly what the TPP will do. That begins by sharing the final text of the TPP with those of us who won’t simply rubber-stamp it.
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And then, moments ago: OBAMA SAYS HE'S `PLEASED' WITH DEAL IN CONGRESS ON TRADE
It almost makes one wonder just whom does "elected" government represent...
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Every day that goes by I get less and less excited about bringing children into this fucked up goddamn shithole of a nation, trying to raise them right is going to be heartbreakingly painful.
Don't do it then.
You must really hate your future kids to want to cause them to exist.
I would not have had my little stants if I knew what I know now
Do what I do, work to bring down this system so they may benefit.
Avoid debt. Don't vote. Tell all who will listen about debt.
System implodes on it's own.
Most of us had kids before we really understood what was going on.
pods
Hear, here.
Also, it might take some real effort but just out breed them. That's my tactic. 6 more lovers of liberty, with no debt, an understanding of fiat money tyranny and tight groups at 300m with a .308.
Exactly, we're raising the true patriots who will one day not be afraid to put an end to this instead of only standing around bitching. We have to turn our backs on this government and these corporations. They are powered off of us. We have to make our local communities sustainable, barter, do not use or spend money unless it's gold or silver, do not buy things from corps, only support local Mom and Pop business. Stop paying bills, stop paying taxes and be ready to fight when the redcoats come to collect and arrest everyone.
Nothing you suggested hurts the system one bit. Other than student loans, consumer debt hasn't increased in a long time. Heard on ZH ALL THE FUCKING TIME.
Maybe that makes you feel like you are doing something positive. You are -- protecting yourself. But I think we all know deep down the system doesn't change until there is a voilent uprising.
It looks like we were lucky. The last generation able to believe in their country, the future of us all, breathe decent air , drink decent water, see some pristine landscapes and oceans full of life, enjoy intervals between wars, think wars solved anything, expect improving life standards.
Do your best to keep them from being materialistic and teach them about honor. Inform them that people don't always act with honor so caution must be used. Beyond that good luck buddy, I am in the same boat.
Remind them that their worth is not based on consumerism, there is no honor in seeing how high a pile of junk you can collect or how shiny is your stuff.
Don't be so fucking melodramatic. Life is better today for the common man than it has been at any other point in human history. The future is wide open. Your children may be Mars colonists for all you know.
There is always hope for the future, so long as there are children, because they are the future. I mean white children, of course. You won't have a negro space program any time soon (maybe in 500,000 years).
I don't really see how you think white children are going to be better off. Ever see what is happening to white women in Sweden?
Also "life is better"? In what way? Wonder what the suicide rates are like of teenagers in this day and age versus 70 years ago. I don't need to wonder because they're waaaay higher now. Must be cuz life is so good we just can't take it.
Swedes are disgusting cowards and weaklings. Why should I care about them? They are so far to the Left they are outside my sphere of give a fuck.
Swedes aren't even human beings in my eyes. But if you raise your sons to be pussies, expect them to get fucked. And if you raise your daughters on a steady diet of Western feminism and they go strutting around cities packed full of feral 'groids and Muslims at night, expect them to get fucked too.
The future will need new ZH posters. Please pirate copy your genes.
Mars might be the only option for those kids after we have finished with the planet.
US is rotten to the core. The kids are learning that all public figures lie and cheat automatically, we will have perpetual war , we kill and toprture regularly , the police are on the rampage and that the best thing they can do is stick their heads in a device and forget the whole thing
You choose to make that your reality. I've been to peaceful places where none of those things you mention seem to matter at all. Baltimore was burning to the ground and, funny thing, none of the people in small mountain villages in Austria seemed to even know.
Funny how that works.
You would have to give up on media altogether to maintain that Austrian mountain high.
Thick Willy, you sound really really ignorant.
By any chance, are you a Rockefeller or Vanderbilt?
What is possibly "free" about this "trade agreement". I thought free trade was voluntary trade between a willing buyer and a willing seller, without "interference" of government or anyone else?
No, that's terrizzm. Only terrizz do that kind of stuff outside the auspices of the State.
it makes corporations "free" to do what they please w/o having to answer to pesky national laws on workers' rights, the environment, etc...
the TPP is a tool of the globalists to transition their corporate/banking assets out of the West
I'll take another spin on it just for shits and giggles. What if it is a multinational FATCA on roids. A mutual agreement to hunt down money, eliminate cash, etc. Maybe even a precursor to the SDR.
At some point the whole sovereign thing is going diverge from corporations and banks. Too many sharks and there is blood in the water already.
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Obama cannot legally hide this deal from the Senate. He is constitutionally required to get Senate input on all treaties during negotiations, before there is even a vote. He should be impeached immediately. This nonsense right here is why the Senate slapped his ass over the Iran talks.
From what I understand, this will not be a treaty, but another "agreement" which will avoid the technicality of the Senate.
I think anyone pissing about the Iran deal was cover to hide from the AIPAC army.
Nobody wants them on you, and they do not want a deal with Iran.
(judging by the Beebe bomb picture, sabotage, and murder they are involved in)
pods
From what I'm hearing, Mitch the bitch McConnell (RINO) is bending over backwards to fast track this through the Senate.
Blow jobs too. He lost his cherry a long time ago.
Not sure it is the Bilderberger nudies and male strippers... but after you do that I guess you are as good as dead.
Sort of explains a lot about how congressmen can live with themselves selling out to every damn con-man lobbyist that comes along... and without regard to the impact.
Year after year of Lobbyist Coups in Congress. Wow.
"The law prohibits us from talking about the specifics of what we’ve seen, allowing the president to criticize us for not being specific."
What law is that? Perhaps you should do you duty to the country and reveal what is about to sell us all out. Snowden grew a pair, maybe you should too.
it takes years for these trade agreements to hit full effect, Nafta and Cafta now 10 yrs old and we got
93 million not in work force, after 10 yrs of this tp trade deal, we will have 150 million not in the work force
every year since nafta we have trade deficits every fucking year..
so yeh this deal is great for elite NWO leeches..
"I’ve been deeply involved in trade policy for almost four decades. For 21 years, I worked for former Democratic Leader Richard Gephardt and handled all trade policy issues including “fast track,” the North American Free Trade Agreement and the World Trade Organization’s Uruguay Round, which is the largest trade agreement in history. I am also a consultant to various domestic producers and the United Steelworkers union, for whom I serve as a cleared advisor on two trade advisory committees. To top it off, I was a publicly acknowledged advisor to the Obama campaign in 2008."
Put this at the top of the article so people dont bother reading what Wussel wants to whine about. Admitting you are part of the problematic demise via the machine and now wanting support for your weak crying of wolf is pitiful. Rot maggot.
The country can't take any more of this.
Let's hold these people personally responsible whether they are in office or retired.
That includes the lobbyists and the corps and the special interests (Read Oligarchs)
Personally Responsible.
Enough economic treason.
Arrest the free traitors.
Pardon the pun.
Economic Security IS National Security.
A government by the people and for the people. Yup secret international trade deals held in secret even from our 'representitives' in Congress. Most transparent admininstration ever.
FUCK THIS GOVERNMENT.
FUCK GOVERNMENT.
FIFY
Damage the nation?
"Damage" it?
Living agreement, where foreigners decide what your obligations are going to be with no input from you is 'Damaged'????
It is serfdom.
Everybody know that in the USA we outsource the jobs we don't want to do like gardening, lawn care, construction jobs, roofing jobs, nurses, house keepers, cooks, dishwashers, hotel maids, cleaning hospitals, cleaning kennels and barns...
So TPP is about allowing Jobs that DHS, FEMA, and the USA Military Don't want to do in Policing our cities, highways, and Prisons.
It is just outsourcing and giving away more ports, bridges, roads, highways, malls, and intellectual property rights that US Citizens haven't patented yet.
S/
another big bubble, jumped 8% in Financial Crisis as the USA Surrendered Sovereignty:
Federal Debt Held by Foreign & International Investors as Percent of Gross Domestic Product, 2014:Q4: 34.75940 Percent of GDP, HBFIGDQ188S,
http://research.stlouisfed.org/fred2/series/HBFIGDQ188S
Current Account Balance: Total Trade of Goods for the United States©, 2013: -703,911,000,000 US Dollars,
Sum Over Component Sub-periods (2013 was last data),
http://research.stlouisfed.org/fred2/series/BPBLTD01USA637S
Well Americans don't have any space for more sub-prime or additional Credit. So we have to Outsource the Slack in the US Economy... S/
Credit Bubble Territory is obvious in 2003 at 50%.
Bank Private Credit to GDP for United States
2011: 55.47615 Percent (Data spans from 1961 to 2011)
http://research.stlouisfed.org/fred2/series/DDDI01USA156NWDB
Correction: We don't "outsource the jobs we do not want to do." We watch our jobs outsourced to people who will work for peanuts. You are hopeless. I am sure this destruction of manufacturing in the USA was part of a deal with developing nations who surely returned the favor in the form of buying US Treasury bonds and assist in the creation of the Ponzi scheme the globe now finds itself in. Or the winner Game of Monopoly (monopolization = destroy the competition) is going to end the game eventually.
Fuck Bunny I put the S/
Late Add: wow. Never read any of my posts I guess. But I did plus you last week on something you posted. Guess i don't know your posts either...
What time do the Rockets play tonite?
how can a so called "trade-deal" be secret?
The funniest shit is they have the balls to make it top secret to us....and we're supposed to believe it's being done in our best interest.
Ayup.
pull my finger.
The world of activist central banksters is proactive indeed; they give the “Criminal Justice System” an entirely new meaning from a system that prosecutes criminals to one that is run by criminals. Ha. Ha. Ha.
The Russians or China or even al Qaeda didn’t need to drop a bomb on America to destroy us. The overthrow of our democracy and our economic Free Enterprise System of Capitalism (free from corporate monopoly) was done within with secret trade agreements.
How can the criminals responsible in Congress and the Washington Empire of Debt, Fraud and Chaos not be responsible for the treasonous destruction of our economy? Camden and Detroit is the result of their secret Free Trade agreements.
The South was right!
Once you get past the Slavery issue, on all other issues they were right. Prior to the civil war we were a group of nations that acted as one in some regards. Post the Civil war were are one Nation that has 50 sections with limited authority within those section boundaries.
Fuck Obama and his TPP, drop a P and that's what is should be used for.
Something is seriously wrong with the system when a career politician with zero real world business experience is allowed to unilaterally make these type of decisions.
Obama makes NO decisions. I doubt he even picks out his own clothes.
And the fake Red Team want it just as much as Oshithead.
Clinton on signing NAFTA: "NAFTA means jobs. American jobs, and good-paying American jobs. If I didn't believe that, I wouldn't support this agreement"
"And then, moments ago: OBAMA SAYS HE'S `PLEASED' WITH DEAL IN CONGRESS ON TRADE
It almost makes one wonder just whom does "elected" government represent..."
Mr. Weasel,
Where's your balls? The "government" created the secrecy? LOL. You mean the arsehole you helped elect created the secrecy. Hitlery "Pay to Play" Clinton will be better? LOL
Channel Eric Snowden if you'rre serious about your convictions, otherwise, sit down and shut up.
You are pretty couragous there sitting in your basement, eating cheetos and whacking off to gay porn. Go steal a copy and publish it on wikileaks, or shut the fuck up yourself.
LOL
Steal a copy? Really? The fact that someone has to steal a copy is the problem.
"It almost makes one wonder just whom does "elected" government represent..."
WTF? Anyone still wondering about that has not been paying attention.
This almost sounds like a pre-empted bankruptcy settlement.
What the US will give away for the Trillions of Debt we( ie Our Loyal 'of the people by the people' Government) ran up.
Sort of a sovereign debt default settlement.
Interesting thought. How soveriegnty fits (or does not fit) into this would be my next question. I wager this sort of arrangement is just the next big mistake aimed at buying more time and moving the world one step closer to either a Hunger Games or Mad Max outcome.
TPP will "pass," as Zion demands it.
Liberty is a demand. Tyranny is submission
We were WARNED about this, Jeff Sessions and Pat Buchanan WARNED us about this, and they weren't alone, but the Wall Street Journal attacked Sessions and Buchanan over the Trade Treaty and their opposition to immigration:
Buchanan To WSJ: It Wasn’t Patriots Who Led GOP, America To Disaster–It Was You!
By Patrick J. BuchananMay 18, 2015
And I know you are asking yourself: WHY? Why would both Democrats and Republicans DO this to US, U.S.?
Well of course it makes NO SENSE unless you have the GOLDEN KEY.
You, but more ZH readers than not, but the average White American has NO IDEA what is going on and WHO has DESTROYED America.
Matthew Weiner Explains “Mad Men” Is About “White Power”
Preface to the GOLDEN KEY
The GOLDEN KEY to understanding the otherwise inexplicable destruction of America, Europe and Australia
Your first step towards freedom is disconnecting yourself from the propaganda box of television/Hollywood. I have no clue what the second half of your post is about because I disconnected myself from the propaganda box 15 years ago because even then it was so vile and disgusting, anti-white, anti-male, and loaded with degenerate images.
Divide and conquer....
What one thing has this nigger ever done that did not diminish our country?
Elect an Enemy Agent, get wiped out.
This guy is the greatest enemy spy ever put in to power.
I am coming to the conclusion that Preezy and enough of Congress has been bot and paid to watch the nation and its Constitution burn.
Burn?
These cocksuckers want to salt the soil of America after they burn it,
Americans have NO idea what this guy is going to do in the next year, but I can guarantee the streets will run red with blood. This dude is a fucking homo-sex dope addled psycho. The only thing he wants to watch is the world on fire.
The night the Gay Ambassador was killed in Benghazi Bath House was holed up with 10 year-old boys wearing a speedo and dong crack.
"Chris is past my age. If he gets whacked, well, give his family a medal. Yo! Achmed! I need service! Come attend my trouser snake!"
"Yes, sahib."
If the CON-gress critters actually cared about this country then they would quickly pass a law making it illegal to punish anyone for communicating the details of the TPP.
However, the critters either care nothing about this country and its future or they are afraid to stand up to the evil Obaminator and whomever is pulling the secret strings.
WTF would a Congressman care about legal penalties that the President (illegal alien or whatever) attempts to impose on their branch of government. Congress should simply take a pre-emptive vote to turn down TPP and tell the Presidential branch that if they want to do business, they better do it transparently or don't waste their time.
Your assuming that colectively congress has the balls to do it but I know you know better. Hang every damn one of them!!!
They don't do that because they only want TO BE RE-ELECTED. You vote with the party bosses or you are out. No funding next campaign time.
Really - this is pretty basic stuff. Sheep like you don't understand anything. What's on TV tonight, dumb ass?
There is no law on the books that could be used to prosecute anyone for releasing any or all of the document. It all bullshit that our congressmen are spewing to take the heat off them for fucking us over. When SHTF it will be a bad day for politicians. Ther're will be more heads rolling in the street than at a ISIS party.
I always thought the Mall would make a perfect place for a guillotine. Or 6 of them.
Taxation without legislation.
Why are they not screaming this is a structured 1st amdt violation?
It's almost as if Obama has been given a mandate to take USSA down the drain...
"Almost?"
Hi, I'm Barry and I hate your fucking country. That's why I hooked up with Bill Ayers and the Imam Rev. Wright.
I hate white people because I am one-half white, and not 100% nigger. So, I want to wipe out all you YT MFs.
My dad, Frank Davis told me how I could take down America with the contacts he'd made. I went to Chicago and hooked up with a bunch of Marxist Jews who wish to rule your country.
Win! Win! for both of us. As a Muslim, I hate Jews, except for the Zionists who also want America wiped out.
Whoops! Time for the prayer rug. I'll get back to you.
If this deal is signed, in 10 years all of the Asian members will seek protection from the US by moving into China/Russia's sphere of influence. TPP is that bad but nearly every leader from all nations who are participating are part of the global elite.
The negotiations, like many in the US Congress have nothing to do with ironing out agreements in the pure sense, only about making it palpable for the peoples of the various nations. None of these leaders wants to wind up out of office, hung, beheaded, exiled, etc. The children of the current leaders will be cursed for generations in their own countries.
Being jailed for leaking what's in it is not what congress should worry about. Being hanged for passing another law without reading it is paramount to treason. I'll buy the rope and will build the gallows on the national mall when the time comes!! We won't forgive any of these crooked politicians for what they have done to our childrens future.
This is the fucking definition of TREASON! This asshole and all those around him need to be removed from office. How can anyone in their right mind think that the details of any trade agreement should be hidden from the people.
I don't seem to understand - how is it even possible that a deal of this magnitude that will affect MILLIONS of people for DECADES to come is being kept KNOWN to a handful of lunatics and/or psychopaths and kept secret not just from the general public, but even from the EXPERTS?! This is just fucking unbelievable! The Swiss are voting in referenda what color trams they're getting... and here is this... some democracy USSA is getting there, oh boy...
Not millions of people....billions of people.
I read the news today, oh boy.
Why does obama want to hide his legislation from American Citizens? And why would anyone in Congress support it? obama hates America and is destroying it. Congress should be perp-walking obama to jail for crying out loud. Not considering his "secret" and surely illegal legislation.
Grimaldus
Oh don't worry, O will be perp-walked all right, it's all part of the plan. But don't feel sorry for him, he'll be bunking up with Ken Lay and Timothy McVeigh while we 'return to American values!' ...under the auspices of the UN.
Damage the nation? Obama? But he loves America!
You know, except its history. And all the white people in it. He's not too sure about the Hispanics, but he thinks they're a little "TOO white" and probably need to be put down like whites.
The TPP has been cooking for awhile, but now the Globalist forces are really ready to ram this thing through. It's all about the control.
Our faggot, Muslim, red diaper baby, peace prize Prez is the perfect stooge to be the face on all of this shit. When the country finally rools over and drowns gurgling in the sour mud of soicialism, they'll be able to point and say "the darkie did it!"
"For the first time in my adult life, I'm proud to have Elizabeth Warren as my Senator from the Commonwealth." - Ned
She is no patriot unless/until she hangs for full disclosure.
Didn't say that ;-O Just the first time that the fraud-Princess (they were all a princess right?) has done something that one might come close to agreeing with.
Of course, "one" might have to prove a) AMCIT status and b) taxpayer record with net outflow to the .gov and to .mass.gov
Otherwise, nvm.
Silence will become consent unless someone stands up to this dictatorship.
There is no Congress.
wait till Obama gives contol of the internet to the U.N. Once they get control they will start regulating content based on their definition of hate speech and whatever else... effectively going around the constitution and the scotus. So much for the first amendment... it will be "out of our hands". So long zh. But I'm sure the author of this article is still a good democrat and I am sure the republicans will go along as long as they still control k street.
(prison cell conversation)
prisoner 1:'So what are you in prison for?'
prisoner 2: 'I did not keep TPP secret'
prisoner 2: 'so what are you in for?'
prisoner 1: 'Bribing to keep TPP secret'
Patriots make sacrifices.
Clowns make excuses.
If we just have a dictatorship, we are no longer bound to obey.
A public hanging would loosen a few tongues.
The details will be disclosed before that happens.
The Republicans want this bill to pass into law. Weird.
You've been psychologically out maneuvered.
The establishment doesn't work for you.
You cannot afford the access.
The best way to take over is to make it crumble from the inside.
King Obama's plan.
This will continue to be kept secret to make it easier for the psychpaths and sociopaths who call themselves government to pass TPP for their global elite masters. It's just another manifestation of the fascist oligarchy further, gradually enslaving the sheeple. We should expect nothing different from the evil parasitic class that always seeks power over others through the most efficient means possible, centralized government.
More and more people are recognizing that there's no solution for centralized government (aka: the state), except one. It must be allowed to self-destruct, and we should help it do so as quickly as possible to minimize the damage it will do to society. All the while, as many people as possible need to be educated about the fact that we don't need government beyond, maybe, the most local level to "secure these rights" of "life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness". On rare occasions, and only for the duration of the need, communities may form loose alliances to address a common enemy aggressor, with no centralized command or leader which could become the next tyrant.
The collapse will be extremely painful, but its unavoidable, and most of the people in North America are likely to perish, especially in urban areas, because of what the state has done to weaken society. The most damaging of its crimes against society was the confiscation and destruction of the people's medium of exchange. Without good money that has intrinsic market value, beyond "confidence" in a criminal gang writ large, supply chains will collapse for nearly everything. Central government will not be able to deny responsibility for this, if they stand sufficiently accused by enough people who are aware. If enough understand that centralized government is entirely to blame for ALL of the misery that society is about to experience, and the pain will NOT be due to the loss of the state, then society will be able to eventually prosper beyond our wildest dreams today, free from the monstrous central government parasites at all levels.
Spread the word to as many as you can, so enough will understand. Then we can stop the plan for "continuity of government" and keep that parasitic criminal class from rising out of its ashes to again victimize us and our progeny.
Camden, Detroit, Philly, Baltimore, Chicago Waco etel, all 'Shovel`Ready' for the chinks...[!]
Just look closely at MLK commissioned Monument in DC, and, it looks strikingly familar to the likeness of Mao?!?
jmo
The usual Insiders will know which equities to purchase before the Little People have the information and details. I'd bet Obama wasn't even told who the lobbyists that wrote the jem were.
Secret Deal Could Contain a Myriad of Gun Restrictions, Ammo Bans! 07 May 2015
DICK MORRIS: Obama Sneaking in 'Unrestricted Immigration' in Trade Deal
Obama’s Republican Collaborators
By Patrick J. Buchanan April 21, 2015
SESSIONS: Trade deal opens immigration floodgates
'Living Agreement' can be changed after Congress approves
McConnell vows to move Obama 'fast-track' authority 'very soon'; 'I want to compliment the President'
Trump: 'A Bad, Bad Deal'
Sessions demands deal be made public
Senator Jeff Sessions Sends Letter to Obama on Trade Pact: Make ‘Living Agreement’ Provision Public before ‘Fast-Track’ Vote, May 6, 2015
Anyone know who manufactures ISIS jumpsuits?
Sons may want to trade-in their Indian costumes.
Wikileaks published in 2013 a draft of one of the TPP's chapters
https://wikileaks.org/tpp/
I still don't understand why these faggots are so scared of ignoring the "laws" about discussing this. Oh no, people talked about how fucked it is, are they going to jail people for that now? If so, even more should break the silence.
I'm now much less worried since this union shill hates it.
Anything referred to as a 'secret' deal is always full of nasty stuff that the author of the deal does not want known!
more bs
Ungrateful Bunch you are! A lot of ' Un-Folks ' have worked Day & Night , Month after Month, Year upon Year at YOUR EXPENSE to STITCH this Trade Deal Together mindful of the Language and Other Techniques on Display to make it as palatable/digestible as possible . . . . . not to mention the manner in which the President fought tooth and nail in you folks corner, mindful of the Little Guy.
OK, So, he doesn't have the savvy to understand the Full Ramifications of the Deal and doesn't expect you to either, hence he's really protecting/nursing your stand-out limitations by means of Non TRANSPARENCY.
Seek out ALL of the Un-Folks who participated in this DEAL . . . . . and KILL THEM, MERCILESSLY.
The Mulatto in Chief has been VIOLATING both law and the CONSTITUTION with the complicit approval of the GOP scumbags.
DHS directly violated judge's order; Granted 2,000 more amnesties
Congressional Research Service: Middle Class Incomes Drop as Immigration Surges
Census: Record 51 Million Immigrants in 8 Years, Will Account for 82% of U.S. Growth
Deportations plummet
REPORT:'Homeland' to naturalize 9 million by 2016 election
'Homeland' to 'Resettle' Central Americans in USA...'Free' Transportation...
Sen. Jeff Sessions: Obama Program 'Establishes A New System Of Immigration'
If we had only followed the Founding Fathers:
“Providence has been pleased to give this one connected country to one united people—a people descended from the same ancestors, speaking the same language, professing the same religion, attached to the same principles of government, very similar in their manners and customs, and who, by their joint counsels, arms, and efforts, fighting side by side throughout a long and bloody war, have nobly established general liberty and independence.”
Concerning Dangers from Foreign Force and Influence, Independent Journal, October 31, 1787
John Jay in Federalist No. 2, wherein he describes Americans as a “band of brethren united to each other by the strongest ties.”
There is only one important question to be answered in this matter.
Will the senile "elites" of the senate and congress , when finally called upon to give the TPP the thumbs up or the thumbs down, realise , that in the interests of self-preservation, and maintenance of their privileged positions, that they would be extremely wise to reject the deal in total ?
They will have the choice.
Such things have happened before in the U.S.
It could happen again.
If it doesn't happen . . . .?
Disagree?
O.K. then .
"I suppose it’s possible that the people currently occupying the upper ranks of the political and economic pyramid in today’s America are just that much more stupid than their equivalents in the Jacksonian, Progressive, and New Deal eras."
WTF is CONgress smoking? Crack? How Amerikans are still on their couches after this debacle is beyond me. I've been ready to go full tilt protest mode for almost twenty years now. Our nation is a full on fascist Stazi police state now. Can't read a fucking law before it's passed? WTF, sheeple. GET OFF OF YOUR LAZY ASSES AND DO SOMETHING ABOUT THIS!!!
"WTF is CONgress smoking?....I've been ready to go full tilt protest mode for almost twenty years now."
Pffft.
If you think "protest" is gonna change anything- you might wanna check what you're smoking.
Is a ban on cash part of the TPP?
TPP is about containing China
TPP is not about containing China
As an outsider to America it makes me laugh when I read comments about different US parties or Obama being responsible for the TPP or anythng else, Congress and Obama are all puppets, heads on a stick to give the illusion of democracy, its all bullshit. Dont worry, its the same crap here in Australia. Had to laugh, watched farenheit 911 for the first time the other day, it included a segment where Bush said a dictatorship would be easier, me thinks we are already there.
Well stated.
I live in an idiocracy, full of idiots.
I live in the US.
The population is so dumbed down that they have almost no reading comprehension, so the only message they get is from sound bites.
The population is so dumbed down that they focus all their anger on the politicians, or the Federal Reserve- instead of who owns the politicians and the Federal Reserve - the Globalist Billionaires and Trillionaires.
A nation of nitwits.
By design.
Thanks, i use to watch the movie the Matrix and not really see why people talked about it, now it just reminds me of day to day life and feel very disappointed the world is the way it is. It actually makes it hard to talk to people or watch tv and not wonder if something had a double meaning, however, evertything makes sense now.
Everything has a double meaning,
It's called "programming" for a very good reason.
Few ever figure out that they've been programmed.
And almost none figure out by whom they've been programmed, and why.
Here's part of the trade deal with Mexico. No wonder they want an open border.
TWO CIA AGENTS ARRESTED BY MINUTEMEN WHILE CROSSING MEXICAN BORDER WITH 1300 POUNDS OF COCAINE
April 23rd, 2015 | by Barbara Johnson
http://worldnewsdailyreport.com/two-cia-agents-arrested-by-minutemen-whi...
El Paso| A group of minutemen watching the Mexican Border for illegal migrants and drug traffickers, have proceeded to the citizen arrest of two men in an SUV, carrying 1300 pounds of cocaine. The volunteers were completely astonished when the two arrestees pulled out CIA ID cards and explained they were actually carrying the drug as part of their duties and that the cargo belonged to the Central Intelligence Agency.The incident took place last night, in the Chihuahuan desert, near the Texan city of El Paso. A group of seven minutemen saw a large black SUV drive rapidly across the border. They chased the vehicle in their own trucks and achieved to immobilize it after a chase of more than 15 miles.
The vigilantes arrested the two men on board and called the border patrol, who proceeded to search the vehicle. They discovered dozens of packages of cocaine, totaling an incredible 618.4 kilograms (1363 pounds).
The search of the vehicle revealed 36 packages of cocaine, all marked with the symbol of the Sinaloa Cartel, representing a black scorpion.
The two men claim to be CIA operatives based in Mexico and explained that the drug was actually part of an operation of the agency. They presented identity cards that seem to validate their claim, but the CIA spokesperson, Dean Boyd, has officially denied any link between the organization and the two men.
Both the border patrol officers and minutemen seem unconvinced, however, and many of them seem to believe that the secret service agency is hiding something. The U.S. custom services have even announced a thorough investigation to try and verify the two men’s story.
“Both of them had valid Accreditation and a receipt for their cargo” says Shawn Francis Miller, spokesman of the U.S. Customs and Border Protection for the El Paso sector.“What drug dealer in his right mind, demands a receipt for 1300 pounds of cocaine? There is really something strange about these guys, and we believe the CIA possibly knows more than what it is ready to admit.”
The custom services have confirmed that the two men, who can’t be identified due to the Intelligence Identities and Protection Act of 1982, did carry valid CIA identifications and that the vehicle was indeed registered as a service vehicle of the organization.
The two men remain under the custody of the custom services at the moment, and are still being interrogated in a facility near El Paso. They are facing charges of possessing, trafficking and importing illegal drugs, and could face other criminal charges once the investigation is over.
Both the FBI and the DEA have announced that they would collaborate with the U.S. Customs and Border Protection on this case, which as already attracted a lot of attention in Southern Texas.
Went to the website and read the article. Then noticed the scrolling headlines at the top of the page: "Ship reappears after being missing for 90 years in the Bermuda Triangle". LOL
You must learn to realize that all media is co-opted by misinformation and disinformation agents.
To determine the likelihood of a reported "truth" you only need to consider "Cui Bono."
See "Operation Mockingbird."
LOL no doubt. I missed that one! My browsing filters intercept that stuff. Wow. 90 years - that's quite something indeed. :-)
Read "Compromised" and "Barry and the Boys"-Bill Clinton-Contras-Mena, AK-CIA-Drugs-1980's
Yeah, let's hear for Hillary, who happened to be negotiating with Banking Principles in Mexico for Walmart before NAFTA was a thought spoken about in the public domain!
Hillary did the financial groundwork needed to bring Mexico on board. The Walton's were pleased, to say the least!
Once passed, Walmart, 'made-an-offer-to-vendors-they couldn't-refuse'? Your either with us or your out of business!
The jobs exodus began!
The WTO agreement via former GATT agreement further extended/ pretended ? and, enhanced the jobs exodus from protectionist/isolationist american shores with China under 'PhaseII'.
Walmart basically went directly to China with every american vendor/ manufacturer invited along that wanted to remain solvent! NICE!!!
Butt, it wasn't enough? The Multinationals/ Globalist Corporate world wanted it all! Indeed, they got the entirety of the Monroe Doctrinaire incorporated into their NWO Manifesto!?!
Who needs neutrality, isolation, protectionism when the USSA has been methodically already been stripped-mined?
Elizabeth Warren spoke up! WTF has Hitlary done exceopt stick her dirty hands into the silty water that she mucked-up twenty years ago!
Fuck-you Hillary and fuck you Clinton's!!!
jmo
ummm. You forgot the FU to everyone who voted for them.
Never have so many been so upset over something they don't know anything about.
Well, maybe global warming, I correct myself.
Hmmm... Hitlery Clinton`ialist as SOS comes up with a geopolitical brainstorn! The-- 'Pivot to China[!!!]', in awe its glory$.
Marvelous! The planting of the NWO seeds?
Creates worldwide diversions with Benghazi, and the total destruction of northern africa on the precipice of another dysfunctional great sirocco "Black spring[?]', but this tyme heading into the heart of southern europe[?] again, and again, moar diversions.
In the mean-tyme, Obi1, and 'the gang of four'... Putin, Xi, Bibi, and Salman play canasta via bridge with Obi1 the referee?
No need for chess when all the quadrants are fixed.
Meanwhile, Joseph MaCarthy turns in his shallow grave a deep purple paled-bone of contrition?
So here we are today, with a government ruled by the iron`fistfuck of a fascist autocratic totalitarian government by the few[?!?] Chosen ones`.
What say you?
The ring-fenced South-China Sea has many litterol tribulation`taries ?!?
Ref: 2 hours ago 5/19/05 "Is America about to make a Fatal Mistake in the South-China Sea?"
http://nationalinterest.org/feature/america-about-make-fatal-mistake-the-south-china-sea-12905
Bonus map: South-China sea and vicinity
http://www.southchinasea.org/files/2011/08/South-China-Sea-reference-map-US-CIA.jpg
Very simple, if it is good news like killing osam bin laden, the news will be out for all to see. So if this TPP is good for America, why keep it a secret.. connect ther dot and u dont it is a bad deal. Can u see a connection between George Stephanopoulos and the email server, Benghazi and the Clinton foundation (CGI)?? They are connnected.. The Benghazi cover up leads to the email server which leads to the CGI. CGI deliberately forgot to release the names of the donors to the public and the administration and promises to release them soon which will reveal George Stephanopoulos name on it. George Stephanopoulos knew his name will be out soon and this corrupt guy - sneak it out.. The whole thing is connected of course to CGI. They keep thinking that 51% of the people or voters ( democrats in particular) are stupid people that they can manipulate through the media. That is why you have ABC, NBC and CNN under their control with Trojan horse working for them
America is not a country it's a business, a kleptocracy run by oligarchs.
Question is<....I'd like to know who is writing the TPP.?
ZWO cabal
Two points
Historical Origins of the Cost-Push Fallacy
Download as a PDF - CiteSeer
An Enquiry into the Nature and Effects of the Paper Credit of Great ...
Bonus round.
Gray, F. A. Hayek and the Rebirth of Classical Liberalism ...
They're throwing shit at the wall to see what sticks. Question their intent. Then bury them with questions. :p
Sometimes The Dragon Wins (because good men do nothing.) I'm referring to those closest to the situation, who could do something, but choose to look the other way. They're slimed (with money) by "Snakes In Suits."
True GRD. however, they have snakeskin and dress up in a suit.
treaty of versaailles ??
TPP is a red herring for labor. What you'll find out.. Global governance to remove United States of America sovereignty. Freedom, guns, internet, new climate taxes, and the loss of the Constitution. Freedom of speech is also being targeted.
I believe you are spot on. This is about giving up sovereignty and allowing UN or some global governing body attempt to take guns, sensor internet, impose climate taxes, etc. Coincides with Jade helm which is meant to demonstrate ability to control citizens. I'm not generally a black helicopter guy but there is a reason this is so secret. The attempted gun buggery will pull in the progressives
This will hasten the death knell of the Democratic party. So it isn't all bad news
Do you want to buy some magic beans? You just plant them in your garden, water them everyday
and soon a money tree will appear.
As if the GOP establishment has given the tiniest fuck about anyone other than the top 10% since
the late 70's. It's called 'Conservatism Inc. for good reason. Still, on the plus side, demographically
the GOP will be unable to ever obtain a majority again within the next 10-20 years so off to the dustbin
of history for them - good riddance to bad rubbish.
ok but who is the GOP competing with? The party that brought us Obama, Obamacare, and is trying to give us the new NAFTA for the Pacific Ocean? I know it's all one representative plutocracy, but democratic party is not in good standing.
So like the Republicans are going to be any better? Yeah- Lindsey Graham will save us all.
The TPP - of cunts, for cunts, by cunts.
To those who still aren't familiar with the TPP (and thanks to WikiLeaks for their leaked passages of it --- and fools wonder what the Obama Administration was so hot and heavy to contain Julian Assange), please peruse the following:
https://independentaustralia.net/politics/politics-display/the-tpp-explained-why-abbott-will-happily-sign-away-our-rights,6245
http://www.citizen.org/investorcases
http://www.citizen.org/documents/TPP-and-services.pdf
http://www.citizen.org/documents/TPP-and-health.pdf
http://www.citizen.org/documents/TPP-and-the-environment.pdf
http://www.citizen.org/documents/investor-state-chart.pdf
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Investor-state_dispute_settlement
So here's what I never get. If so many politicians suspect that the deal is bad. Why aren't they protesting vocally and visibly in front of the White House? Make the news cover it, demand copies, force the media to cover them, accuse him of lying. He can't lock up 20 congressmen and women, or more. They're all scared of him and one wonders what he's got on them. Hillary will come out against the bill, but she will be lying too. Congress should authorize an Occupy DC until we get access. Wouldn't that be something!
The mortgage on the mansion in the DC suburbs is not going to pay itself.
They're not afraid. They're busy waiting for special interest to fire employees to either buy back shares or buy them off.
1. If the author looked at NAFTA, then he should know a bad trade deal when he sees one.
2. No one wonders anymore who congress is working for. We know. "It's the best congress money can buy."
I might be concerned, but we've got Obama handling the negrotiations.
we do know where the fucken guy was born so why should we know whats in the TPP?