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In America, Which One Of These Is The Most Courageous?
And the winner of The Arthur Ashe Courage Award is...
The Arthur Ashe Courage Award is an award that is part of the ESPY Awards.
Although it is a sport-oriented award, it is not limited to sports-related people or actions, as it presented annually to individuals whose contributions "transcend sports".
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And just to top it all off...
- *OBAMA BELIEVES JENNER HAS SHOWN `TREMENDOUS COURAGE': EARNEST
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Songs that made the hit parade...
And you knew who you were then...
Gals were gals & men were men...
"All In The Family"
What a great opening.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0d8FTPv955I
What makes America great by Archie Bunker
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ALE6ENavvJQ
Archie Bunker on Democrats
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3U_QhauNzFg
Archie Bunker by Norman Lear, yeah real american.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norman_Lear
Americans are rarely subtle enough to understand satire.
One particular country in the world has the symbol of 'as above' and 'so below' as their national symbol right on the national flag.
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Of course they have a name for it...but its not what it means. Its an occult symbol.
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They dont even realize the fuckin meaning of what that 'star' actually represents...
courage my ass..... but does she take it in the ass ?
She/It kinda has to.
"It" looks like a very high-mileage version of Demi Moore. Fake boobs and all.
He did get himself some nice titties, I'll give him that.
What's her association with Ray Finkle?
USA, what a great place to raise a family. Current bravery role model, a freak.
Zinnnngerrrrr.....
Finkle-Enhorn-Einhorn-Finkle Finkle Einhorn Finkle Einhorn Finkle Einhorn. Einhorn IS Finkle! Einhorn is a MAN!!!
Finkle-Enhorn-Einhorn-Finkle Finkle Einhorn Finkle Einhorn Finkle Einhorn. Einhorn IS Finkle! Einhorn is a MAN!!!
After the rubble settles and the smoke clears future generations will speak of these times as lost. This will be yet another example of how our cultural values spiralled into the sewage.
There is no connection for many of us to what is going on here. That is why we know what is coming next.
Pray.
Pretty easy to see how and why history repeats.
Yep, Rome probably had some nut it propped up as a hero circa 430 AD
Bread and circuses for everyone!
Panem et circenses....practising my latin....
What's up?
Nullum multom....
Bandgap,
very well put. almost feel like an alien in this culture. willing to engage in self indulgence but on an occasional basis not as a lifestyle. the over-the-top self destructive behavior is really f****** hard to understand. I am not religious but view the Bible rather as a life manual, a collection of life advice for humans to try to help them avoid relearning all of the hard lessons, the hard way.
when society turned its back on the thousands of years of human nature stored in the parables and stories in the Bible, and in the traditions handed down by so many from so long ago, we turned our backs on common sense. we indulged our fantasy of "this time it's different".
Of course, it isn't.
But when the s*** hits the fan I have a few fantasies of my own that I'm going to indulge. I will not die in this contemptible manner.
What a fucked up world we live in.
Ya think.
I have absolutely no problem with some dude chopping off his dick and living as a female. That's his call. But the GLORIFICATION of it is really fucking annoying!
Jenner has the right to lop his cock and get breast implants.
I have the right to say he's a fucking faggot for glory hounding his "sexuality".
Ma Jenner chopped his dick off decades ago.
He/she/it is just finishing the job off.
Happy ending? Wait, no, um, how would he, I mean she...oh nevermind
Agreed. It can do whatever the fuck it wants with it's body, I really don't give a rat's ass, but this is anything but courageous. That fact that they say it is just goes to show how far society has fallen.
Sits around all day showered with money, cameras, etc. - living some sort of "virtual" life disconnected from the reality that 99.9% of people experience - with nothing really better to do than focus on himself... his personal wants, needs, shortcomings, dreams, etc...
This is courage to the 99.9%?
Yeah. Sorry. Dont think so.
It's not even "society" that's fallen. I think the average person feels just like you and I, which is to say they could give a fuck. But this small subset of our culture that controls the media has a fetish for this bullshit.
In their mind giving the .001% of freaks air time equals ratings. It's the Freak Show Carnival of the 21st Century. Nothing has really changed, there's just a larger distribution system and hence audience.
Yes. No more awards. No slogans. No bumper stickers. No campaigns.
Go out every day and "do unto others" and live simple. It's the society that's fucked up much more so than individuals.
As I said to my wife just today... I have not become unfit for society. Society has become unfit for me.
Just reject it, maintain core values. Smile, ignore and wait.
There is change simmering before the boiling begins.
Obvious that too many young people still believe they can have a normal life via traditional values, hence the constant glorification of everything counter to traditional values, the same traditional values which had led to the glowing success of Western culture.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OH0_a1-11Nc
Two Sided Politics
I'm not anti-society
society's anti-me
I'm not anti-religion
religion is anti-me
I'm not anti-tradition
tradition is anti-me
I'm not anti-anything
I just wanna be free
Fascist state, no freedom
Unless you control yourself
Use self expression, lose your freedom
You're undesirable, you go straight to jail
Kill someone, in a war
Get a medal, you're a hero
Protect yourself in every day war
You're undesirable you go straight to jail
I'm not anti-Reagan
Reagan's anti-me
I'm not anti-government
government's anti-me
I'm not anti-politics
politics is anti-me
I'm not anti-anything
I just wannna be free
Two Sided Politics
Innocent, never guilty
High class lawyer, you are rich
If you're poor must be guilty
Even if innocent you go straight to jail
ebw, did you not eatchur wheaties?
I'm just tired of society trying to dictate individuals. Bruce Jenner wants to be Caitlyn Jenner? More power to him (her). The guy with no arm/leg? Courageous. The question is why does society pigeonhole people and insist on definitions and awards while simultaneously de-humanizing and shaming individuals and self-determination?
Society pretends to champion the individual, while simultaneously championing race/gender/orientation/gang/political/O.S./"What car do you drive what brand do you buy?" decimation of the individual.
Everyone must be labeled while decrying labels. Damn crazy monkeys.
Me too.
Ya have to laff to keep from crying...
Laugh long and hard enough, you end up crying anywayz, eh WG?
With the wicked funny comments on Mr. Ed, yes I laughed till I cried.
Has a tendency to keep a shred of sanity.
As above, so below...
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Man wearing dresses; women wearing pants.
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Flip everything on its head.
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You dont think this was a joint effort publicity stunt as well - one day releasing 'Caitlyn' and next day you win an award...
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You know whoelse has tits and a dick - Baphomet
Explains why Putin is secretly the hetero, over 35, white male hero.
Yes
May the odds be ever in your favor.
It's not enough for Bruce to show some gravitas and grace in his decision to change his gender... He has to make himself look like a $2.00 whore in the process.
Family tradition, a black boyfriend coming soon.
One that dated one of the daughters.
His ass isn't big enough yet.
Please, please! Bring Archie Bunker back to TV...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EjK9OAm6oN8
and shortly afterwards, the Caitlyn Jenner sex tape!
Ugh! What a thought...
And to my amazement, the bar (which is already subterranean) has been lowered again.
Quelle surprise
Arthur Ashe is a true American hero.
How he was used is another story!
Notice anything about the winners since Obo got into office? From Pat Tillman, ex NFL player who walked away from 7 figure contract to fight for his country (right or wrong) to a bunch of politically correct non courageous
publicity hounds.
That list is a fuckan joke which has almost nothing to do with sports.
I am OK with gay people, gay marriage, etc, and even I think this is insane. Jenner is clearly a media whore who is just trying to get attention and stay relevant. He is psychologically damaged and the money-grubbing media is promoting his self-destruction.
The hottest new thing is transgender. Just being gay isn't cool anymore. You have to turn into the opposite sex for praise now.
But only men becoming women. Women becoming men is still sickening.
It's all sickening.
Men are headed for extinction via fast tracked technological obsolescense in more ways than won.
Get the popcorn & wait for the supply chain break in batteries. I forsee feminazi electricutions exponential.
Women becomming men....
The medical journals refer to this procedure as an "Addadicktome" .
I'm attracted to baby elephants. There, I'm out. Now where's my medal of honor?
Maybe they can get his junk converted, and he can have a new Reality Donkey Show on TeeVee. (should please the masses for a season at least) FFS
There once was a fellow named Nero
Who let his city burn
While he played his fiddle
Do you see any connection with those times and these times?
'Merica, where saying that a man and woman should be married before they have kids makes you a homophobic bigot.
Where asking your government to arrest financial criminals for destroying millions of lives makes you antisemitic.
Where asking people to work for a living and not riot and pillage makes you racist.
Where owning a gun to protect your family makes you a homicidal maniac.
Where blowing the whistle on corruption makes you a terrorist.
'Merica where everything the country used to stand for makes you an enemy of the country.
Would make a great campaign slogan if only there was a courageous politician to run for POTUS. Watched the show "Turn" yesterday and for those of you who want to see what could have been I highly recommend it.
There's one small constellation...
Hastert voted for the PA.
ROFL
and ESPN part of Disney, run by Bob Iger... ashkenazi jew, all part of the plan
New American slogan, instead of it being "land of the free and home of the brave," why not be:
"America, where we encourage people to be what they're not and act like it's okay. "
FUCK YEAH!
Damn. That's the second time this week , my first thought was I would fuck That girl !!! Does that make me Gay ???
yes
Does that make you gay? In my book sex with another XY-Chromosomed human makes you a faggot, it doesn't matter if the penis is still hanging or was chopped away. But hey, that's just me. I'm very judgmental.
Nah, quite the contrary. Gender is a performance. Some women don't do "woman" very well at all. Some men do it awful, some do it great without getting into biochemistry, some get hormones and surgery and do it better than they did before.
Seasmoke, Just remember, They're NOT chicks with dicks, they're dudes with tits!
I love reading the comments of the hateful idiots on here. You're probably all closeted!
That's a pretty hateful comment there...... idiot.
One up vote from somewhere in California
Well, we know you're not in the closet. Raging gay Vaginaphobe?
Timewave---> NAMBLA charter member
Pretty hilarious video of trolling hipster social justice warriors: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jjPQ_jVlEnQ
He starts off by saying how homosexuality stems from anti-social behaviour and is not at all linked to sexual desire.
I would tend to agree with him. This guy/girl Jenner represents sexuality within a society that has essentially outlawed reproduction and where toxic individuality is the only culture remaining. No wonder people want to be two sexes at once, society is so self-obsessed and absurd that the 'man wanting to have individual rights to make a baby' scene from Life of Brian had to become a reality.
Things are worse than the Soviet regime, it really is that bad.
The one up vote came in from some mansion with lots of big butts in California
Making your shit public and wanting all your business to be the talk of millions of people is extremely narcissistic. The whole family is this way, thinks the public should be interested in everything they do and then post a selfie so all the sheeple can ooh and aah. Some people are sick and tired of this shit shoved down their throats 24/7 and you call them idiots -lap it up sheep.
I love reading the comments of the hateful idiots on here. You're probably all closeted!
That's a pretty hateful comment there...... idiot x2
I love reading the comments of the hateful idiots on here. You're probably all closeted!
My son is gay. At least he was honest about it from day one. He is living with a guy.
The difference between my son and Jenner is this. My son didn't lie to a woman, have kids with her, only to come out later.
I've known three women in my life who had children with men who later came out of the closet. The women were devastated. The kids didn't know what to make of it.
He cares more for himself than he cares about his ex wives and children.
No one is perfect, but to call selfishness courage is an aberration.
Courage is young man in my daughters school who "came out" and was thrown from his house and stripped of his belongings. He is a wonderful person and extrememly talented musician who is now struggling to complete school on his own. He holds his head high each day though. Always a positive attitude. He will make it through. I am sure. Why? He has courage. He has friends. He has strength of character. Etc.
And what he doesn't have, and won't ever likely have, is a legacy. He's a genetic dead end.
I too know 3 women this has happened to. Horrific.
I also know a man that did it (2 kids) & had to ask him why.
I think I got an honest answer. He'd always felt conflicted and acted out of societal pressure to conform. He's not a mean person, but can go from 0 to bitchy in a nanosecond.
Willy, I feel very conflicted too! Wifey says it won't fix anything if we hang or guillotine the banksters and politicians.
She's prolly right.
Can't change what's in the heart.
Only from within.
No wonder China nd Russia are winning. Can individuals join the AIIB?
Ya know....I've always felt like I was born in the wrong body. I've always felt like I should have been a dog. So I'm going to pursue a "species re-classification" operation so I can be the dog I've always felt I should be. I won't truly be free until I can hump somebodies leg and take a big dump on my neighbors lawn. Next year...that award is mine. It will take GREAT courage to embrace my true canine self and walk on all fours.
You may have to wear a leash and live in a cage and come out and dump where your owner tells you to dump and forget about fornicating with that sexy poodle as her owner doesn't want a mixed breed. :)
Almost like .gov, isn't it?
Fame, fortune and magazine covers await! Go for it. You'll have your pick of every pooch in the pound.
We can all say, "I knew him when". This is gonna' be great!
Go ahead but you will be condemned to a lifetime of doing it doggie style and doggie style alone.
He will be able to lick his own dick though and if he carries any human mammeries post dog-i-fication.....we knwo how he'll keep busy.
No hairy palms, but why is your moustasche coming out of your mouth there...son?
Hairy...
I thought that was Rosy.
You're bad
ping
satan must be laughing his ass off at how far down toward hell our entire civilization has fallen. or maybe how far up we have risen hell until this actually is hell. i don't know how that works, but we are so damn close to something. something bad
Bet Obama has fantasies about getting his hands on this shemale hottie.
I think the main issue here at ZH is that it is made into such a big issue, nationally. This is a personal issue with Jenner and his close circle of friends and family. The fact that Jenner and the whorish media want to turn it into a national circus act gives us cover to call it a freak show. I should not even know about this and I certainly didn't want to.
I agree with you. Big time. See comments below about how he killed someone in a car crash, yet still has the gall to put on this performance. Courage my ass.
I might be one of those people who are "uptight" about "changing" how one "identifies" themself.
Except, he's not changing. His chromosomes are still XY, his hips are narrow and his skull will still be male.
He can be mutilated surgically and chemically to appear female, but he's not.
II guarantee you that if he played tennis with his daughters, they'd be uncomfortable changing and showering in front of him in the locker room afterward.
In short, he's like those little green pieces of paper being printed by the Fed. A counterfeit. I oppose counterfeiting.
Fifty-four years ago tonight, Rod Serling issued a warning:
"You walk into this room at your own risk, because it leads to the future, not a future that will be but one that might be. This is not a new world, it is simply an extension of what began in the old one. It has patterned itself after every dictator who has ever planted the ripping imprint of a boot ...on the pages of history since the beginning of time. It has refinements, technological advances, and a more sophisticated approach to the destruction of human freedom. But like every one of the super-states that preceded it, it has one iron rule: logic is an enemy and truth is a menace."
The warning has become a blueprint.
https://vimeo.com/15365268
A man can live as a woman and it is possible you would never know they had a penis. There are all kinds of conditions where folks are born, "in the middle."
For me, if you are identifying as a woman, I am okay to treat you as one. If the person is not biologically a woman, luckily for me, does not matter. I will not be screwing it or trying to have a family with it.
I would probably be bent to discover I was dating a man who used to be a woman.
So it does and does not matter to me, if I am honest. Folks should be free to be butch or fem no matter their gender. They should be free to be in the middle if they want.
It does not mean I approve of this Jenner mess. S/he is fucking up this issue bad by creating this big coming out event. So many trans kids are suicidal, homeless, turn to drugs and prostitution, it is a bad situation. I don't see Caitlyn or whoever helping with any of these issues with how s/he is doing this.
Identity is different than biology. You never know biology, sometimes even when you do know what is in their pants!
But to live as a man... That is well on its way to being declared illegal.
Superficial. Shallow. Attention Seeking. Whore.
Why when a transgender man "becomes a woman" it always equals dressing like a five dollar hooker and sobbing in public for attention?
It just bothers me that when the Jenners of the world decide they are really women, the coming out proof always consists of stage makeup, hair extensions, showing tits, and being photographed in a bustier made by a company called Trashy Lingerie. I find it slightly insulting that this superficial crap is what transgenders believe a woman is.
Maybe instead of declaring they are female, what they should really say is, "I'm coming out as a attention starved whore."
Where are the "nice girl" trannies that just want to keep a nice home, grow a little garden, bake an apple pie, and help her neighbors?
It would never happen. Because trannies don't want to be women. They want to be outlandish, over sexualized cartoon characters of Lady Gaga, Miley Cyrus and Madonna.
I know one just as you describe. I let her/him have a bunch of my old clothes to try on. She/he took very few of them because they were not "age appropriate." (Funny because it was stuff I wore in my 20s). She likes classic lines, simple themes, and not to be exposed or looking cheap. She really does just want to find the right man and set up house with him, quietly, God bless her. I think it is going to be pretty hard to find a man like that when she is transgendered. The one's she wants, won't want her.
I was floored when this kid came out. I watched him grow up, never saw it coming.
ok so here is a guy who has a fantasy (when he dated women) about the type of women he likes....
and wants to be like this...
so the reason why most guys choose the sexy girl type look, when they become a girl, is because that is the type they were attracted to...while they were guys...
or something like that :) ?
In his/her/its defense, I doubt any man could be associated with that Game of Whores family for 20+ years and not have a totally f-ed up concept of what a woman is. Starting with the "matriarch," or as I view her, the Mimp (mother+pimp). I'll believe in God again when the entire clan perishes in a fatal private plane crash.
i've always tried to approach what life reveals to me with a certain amount of rationality and empathy. i have never had a problem with gay. that being said i now have a huge problem with it. it is in my face, my government, my tv, my media and is not content to be, but wants to destroy any semblance of what i've considered normal for my 55 years.
its happening with race, and its happening with sex and will probably happen with the rest of the "oath" of discrimination in the future.
Agreed, I perceive the same trend. I watched 'Penny Dreadful' last Sun and had to see cuts and back-and-forth between tranny-man buttsex and heterosex. I dont want to watch a man hump another man.
Yeah, it's the new Victorian sexuality. What do we call it? Hollywoodian? San Franciscan?
TelAvivian
Neither.
Well, I know whom I'd like to nominate for the The Arthur Ashe Courage Award, but can't, because these faux candidates have way more courage:
The US Voters, former Troops and Oath Keepers -- all protesting in the streets by the millions.
Why is Bruce Jenner being shoved down our throats by Walt Disney and (ALL)the Media Giants? Can someone please help me understand?
If you have to ask that question then you haven't been paying attention.
Only Muhammad Ali and Nelson Mandela resonate with me on that list.
Most of the other names I don't even recognize.
Yeah. Howard Cosell was a prior awardee.
'Nuff said.
Yeah, look what Mandela did for the RSA.
Just don't be white or an immigrant from a neighboring African country there, that's all.
Ali: "I an't got nno quarrel with the Viet Cong". BALLS.
Mandela had to do shit like spend the day digging what they said was his own grave. Then they would say "just kidding". BALLS
Here's what bothers me about Bruce, the day after he killed a woman in a car accident, he's seen running out for his morning coffee. Isn't that kind of sick? If I killed someone in a car accident I don't know if I'd be able to leave my house for weeks. Also, first thing he does is dress up as a slut. He's a bad girl.
^^Nail slammed on the head, none of the rest of the comments matter.^^
I was trying to figure out how to comment on just this issue. Something wrong here that s/he can kill someone, soak up all this attention about the gender stuff so soon after, and then get an award. Ashe may well be turning in his grave. This is fucked up.
And I think that he bulked up (steroids) for the 1976 Olympics, so he's a cheater as well.
Back then he changed his body for selfish reasons/performance enhancement. He's doing it again.
Damn Right it takes courage to chop your dick off with a meat clever.
I think they actually split it like a banana and turn it inside out before they stuff it inside. Almost passed out typing this.
That's the funniest comment I've seen in a long time! I understand about the passing out part, I think I looked like Buckwheat being surprised when I read it.
Well done.
I guess since its clever its extra sharp?
so it must take even more balls to do the same thing to your testicles... ?
So when women become men do they use a beaver cleaver?
My theory is that this is all about ego and vanity. After multiple awful plastic surgeries, Jenner was a mess. I think this is the only solution his deranged and narcissistic mind could come up with to transform himself into something he liked to look at in the mirror. Remember, men look stupid in makeup, but women can gob it on an inch thick and be "beautiful". All the sexual confusion stuff is bullshit. He even said sex was the last reason on his list to do this. At 65, he just wants access to the Kardashian makeup stash, which is sizable!!
All the publicity is icing on the cake further feeding his ego.
Yes, the narcissist who recently caused the death of another is America's new hero!
There's often a fine line between courageous and crazy.
Not in this case.
Want to know what a nation under judgement looks like?
Because an omnipotent, omnipresent sky wizard would certainly be preoccupied with judgement of lowly humans.
You have a very low IQ.
Why don't you ask the person with the prosthetics what "they" think?
The chart for Trannies Outperforming is on the post just above this one.
Winning!, er, wait, LOSING!
It used to be that every show had to have a Gay character, just to shove it all down our collective throats.
I'm wondering how long it will be until every show has a tranny character, just to be "courageous".
what a disaster this country has become. Instead of creating unity, we have to have "Diversity". and diversity is just another word for Freakshow.
Diversity, as in division, as in divide and conquer. I'm no "big story book" thumper but we've become a nation of Sodom and Gomorrah.
You'll soon be forced to share urinals with mannies
Our your wives, sisters, mothers, and daughters will hvae to share bathroom with men who like to pretend they're women, like the Planet Fitness thing.
You make a great point. I give it atleast a decade before its shoved into every show. 20 years ago when i was in elementary school THE insult on the playground was Fag and Gay. It wasn't really seen as hatespeech when you got caught calling some kid a fag then... now id say its taken on the political correctness of say racism. It was that way because at the time it was still frowned upon by almost every religion and media received too much backlash for promoting it.
Fast forward 10 years and you have your Will and Grace which in my mind was the pioneer to promoting homosexuality subliminally... look what kooky things happen to this gay man! oh dear the fun that ensues! Ten years later and EVERY SHOW has a gay relationship they throw in there. Now there is in your face men on men kissing and even sex scenes on primetime TV, HBO, etc. I mean could you imagine that being shown in the 80s!? What would Candy Strauss and Tipper gore have to say good lord.
One thing I havn't seen much talk about on these forums regarding the new transgender wave is what an absolute CASH COW it is for the medical and therapy industry. You don't just get to become a man or a woman. You need to take classes for posture and body language, as well as speech therapy etc. You have to PASS TESTS where you must BE the other sex for X amount of weeks without BEING NOTICED as the opposite sex before you can be APPROVED of the actual sex change surgery. It is an absolute CASH COW from beginning to end. Not to mention it is the new grey area for what can be billed on your medical insurance. Funny to note the sex change surgery itself can be covered under Obamacare.
Then there is the whole transgenderization leading to transhumanism.... but I don't think i want to spend the next 2 hours typing that one up :P
Caitlyn is really Demi Moore you guys.
I've lost any and all respect for Bruth Jenner, Caitlyn, whatever they call IT. He's connected to the Whoregashians so why not join the freakshow, Bruth?
I'm not sure I had any to lose... but hey who gives a fuck right ..
I could respect his wins as an olympic athlete. That takes work and dedication. Unfortunately he's made a mockery of himself.
That's it America, embrace your failure.
I guess it's never too late to qualify for the ol' BROADJUMP, eh?