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Ex-US Intelligence Officials Confirm: Secret Pentagon Report Proves US Complicity In Creation Of ISIS

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Two weeks ago, courtesy of the investigative work of Nafeez Ahmed whose deep dig through a recently declassified and formertly Pentagon documents released earlier by Judicial Watch FOIA, we learned that Western governments deliberately allied with al-Qaeda and other Islamist extremist groups to topple Syrian dictator Bashir al-Assad. In his words: "According to the newly declassified US document, the Pentagon foresaw the likely rise of the ‘Islamic State’ as a direct consequence of the strategy, but described this outcome as a strategic opportunity to “isolate the Syrian regime.

Now, in a follow up piece to his stunning original investigative report titled "Secret Pentagon report reveals West saw ISIS as strategic asset Anti-ISIS coalition knowingly sponsored violent extremists to ‘isolate’ Assad, rollback ‘Shia expansion", Nafeez Ahmed reveals that according to leading American and British intelligence experts, the previously declassified Pentagon report confirms that the West accelerated support to extremist rebels in Syria, despite knowing full well the strategy would pave the way for the emergence of the ‘Islamic State’ (ISIS).

The experts who have spoken out include renowned government whistleblowers such as the Pentagon’s Daniel Ellsberg, the NSA’s Thomas Drake, and the FBI’s Coleen Rowley, among others.

Their remarks demonstrate the fraudulent nature of claims by two other former officials, the CIA’s Michael Morell and the NSA’s John Schindler, both of whom attempt to absolve the Obama administration of responsibility for the policy failures exposed by the DIA documents. 

This is Nafeez Ahmed's follow up story, originally posted in Medium

Ex-intel officials: Pentagon report proves US complicity in ISIS

Renowned government whistleblowers weigh in on debate over controversial declassified documen

Foreseeing ISIS

As I reported on May 22nd, the US Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA) document obtained by Judicial Watch under Freedom of Information confirms that the US intelligence community foresaw the rise of ISIS three years ago, as a direct consequence of the support to extremist rebels in Syria.

The August 2012 ‘Information Intelligence Report’ (IIR) reveals that the overwhelming core of the Syrian insurgency at that time was dominated by a range of Islamist militant groups, including al-Qaeda in Iraq (AQI). It warned that the “supporting powers” to the insurgency?—?identified in the document as the West, Gulf states, and Turkey —?wanted to see the emergence of a “Salafist Principality” in eastern Syria to “isolate” the Assad regime.

The document also provided an extraordinarily prescient prediction that such an Islamist quasi-statelet, backed by the region’s Sunni states, would amplify the risk of the declaration of an “Islamic State” across Iraq and Syria. The DIA report even anticipated the fall of Mosul and Ramadi.

Divide and rule

Last week, legendary whistleblower Daniel Ellsberg, the former career Pentagon officer and US military analyst who leaked Pentagon papers exposing White House lies about the Vietnam War, described my Insurge report on the DIA document as “a very important story.”

In an extensive podcast interview, he said that the DIA document provided compelling evidence that the West’s Syria strategy created ISIS. The DIA, he said, “in 2012, was asserting that Western powers were supporting extremist Islamic groups in Syria that were opposing Assad…

“They were not only as they claimed supporting moderate groups, who were losing members to the more extremist groups, but that they were directly supporting the extremist groups. And they were predicting that this support would result in an Islamic State organization, an ISIS or ISIL… They were encouraging it, regarding it as a positive development, because it was anti-Assad, Assad being supported by Russia, but also interestingly China… and Iran… So we have China, Russia and Iran backing Assad, and the US, starting out saying Assad must go… What he [Nafeez Ahmed] is talking about, the DIA report, is extremely significant. It fits into a general framework that I’m aware of, and sounds plausible to me.”

Ellsberg also noted that “it’s pretty well known” in the intelligence community that Saudi Arabia sponsors Islamist terrorists to this day:

“It’s kind of a deal that the Saudis will support various Islamic extremists, all around the world, and the deal is that they [extremists] will not try to overthrow the corrupt, alcohol-drinking clique in Saudi Arabia.”

Ellsberg, who was a former senior analyst at RAND Corp, also agreed with the relevance of a 2008 US Army-commissioned RAND report, quoted in my Insurge story, and also examined in-depth for Middle East Eye.

The US Army-funded RAND report advocated a range of policy scenarios for the Middle East, including a “divide and rule” strategy to play off Sunni and Shi’a factions against each other, which Ellsberg describes as “standard imperial policy” for the US.

The RAND report even confirmed (p. 113) that its “divide and rule” strategy was already being executed in Iraq at the time:

“Today in Iraq such a strategy is being used a tactical level, as the United States now forms temporary alliances with nationalist insurgent groups that it had been fighting for four years… providing carrots in the form of weapons and cash. In the past, these nationalists have cooperated with al-Qaeda against US forces.”

The confirmed activation of this divide-and-rule strategy perhaps explains why the self-defeating US approach in Syria is fanning the flames of both sides: simultaneously allying with states like Turkey who have continued to covertly sponsor ISIS, while working with Assad through the Russians to fight ISIS. Ellsberg added:

“As Assad is the main opponent of ISIS, we are covertly coordinating our airstrikes against ISIS with Assad. So are we against Assad, or not? It’s ambivalent… I think that Obama and everybody around him is clear that they do not any longer as they’ve been saying want Assad to leave power. I don’t believe that that is their intention anymore, as they believe anyone who succeeds Assad would be far worse.”

If true, Ellsberg’s analysis exposes the deep-rooted hypocrisy of the previous campaign against Assad, the current campaign against ISIS, and why both appear destined for failure.

Frankenstein script

Coleen Rowley, retired FBI Special Agent described my report on the DIA document as “excellent.”

Rowley, who was selected as TIME ‘Person of the Year’ in 2002 after revealing how pre-9/11 intelligence was ignored by superiors at the FBI, said of the document:

“It’s like the mad power-hungry doctor who created Frankenstein, only to have his monster turn against him. It’s hard to feel sorry when the insane doctor gets his due. But in our case, that script is constantly repeating. The quest for ‘full spectrum dominance’ and blindness of exceptionalism seems to mean we are doomed to keep repeating the ‘Charlie Wilson’s Frankenstein War’ script… The various neocon warmongers and military industrial complex, most of them inept Peter Principles, just don’t care.”

Also commenting on the declassified Pentagon report, former NSA senior executive Thomas Drake?—?the whistleblower who inspired Edward Snowden?—?condemned “the West’s role in ISIS and threat of ‘violent extremists’, justifying surveillance and libercide at home.”

Wedge strategy

Alastair Crooke, a former senior MI6 officer who spent three decades at the agency, said yesterday that the DIA document provides clear corroboration that the US was covertly pursuing a strategy to drive an extremist Salafi “wedge” between Iran and its Arab allies.

The strategy was, Crooke confirms, standard thinking in the Western intelligence establishment for about a decade.

“The idea of breaking up the large Arab states into ethnic or sectarian enclaves is an old Ben Gurion ‘canard,’ and splitting Iraq along sectarian lines has been Vice President Biden’s recipe since the Iraq war,” wrote Crooke, who had coordinated British assistance to the Afghan mujahideen in the 1980s. After his long MI6 stint, he became Middle East advisor to the European Union’s foreign policy chief (1997–2003).

“But the idea of driving a Sunni ‘wedge’ into the landline linking Iran to Syria and to Hezbollah in Lebanon became established Western group think in the wake of the 2006 war, in which Israel failed to de-fang Hezbollah,” continued Crooke. “The response to 2006, it seemed to Western powers, was to cut off Hezbollah from its sources of weapons supply from Iran…

“… In short, the DIA assessment indicates that the ‘wedge’ concept was being given new life by the desire to pressure Assad in the wake of the 2011 insurgency launched against the Syrian state. ‘Supporting powers’ effectively wanted to inject hydraulic fracturing fluid into eastern Syria (radical Salafists) in order to fracture the bridge between Iran and its Arab allies, even at the cost of this ‘fracking’ opening fissures right down inside Iraq to Ramadi. (Intelligence assessments purpose is to provide ‘a view’?—?not to describe or prescribe policy. But it is clear that the DIA reports’ ‘warnings’ were widely circulated and would have been meshed into the policy consideration.)

“But this ‘view’ has exactly come about. It is fact. One might conclude then that in the policy debate, the notion of isolating Hezbollah from Iran, and of weakening and pressurizing President Assad, simply trumped the common sense judgment that when you pump highly toxic and dangerous fracturing substances into geological formations, you can never entirely know or control the consequences… So, when the GCC demanded a ‘price’ for any Iran deal (i.e. massing ‘fracking’ forces close to Aleppo), the pass had been already partially been sold by the US by 2012, when it did not object to what the ‘supporting powers’ wanted.”

 

Intel shills

Crooke’s analysis of the DIA report shows that it is irrelevant whether or not “the West” should be included in the “supporting powers” described by the report as specifically wanting a “Salafist Principality” in eastern Syria. Either way, the report groups “the West, Gulf countries and Turkey” as supporting the Syrian insurgency together?—?highlighting that the Gulf states and Turkey operated in alliance with the US, Britain, and other Western powers.

The observations of intelligence experts Ellsberg, Rowley, and Drake add further weight to Crooke’s analysis. They come in addition to comments I had previously received on the DIA document from former MI5 counter-terrorism officer, Annie Machon, and former counter-terrorism intelligence officer, Charles Shoebridge.

The comments undermine the recent claims of disgraced US national security commentator, John Schindler, a retired NSA intelligence officer, to the effect that the August 2012 DIA report is “almost incomprehensible,” “so heavily redacted that its difficult to say much meaningful about it,” “Nothing special here, not one bit,” “routine,” “a single data point,” and so on.

Schindler cites the DIA’s use of ‘Curveball’?—?the Iraqi informant who fabricated claims about Saddam Hussein’s weapons of mass destruction (WMD)?—?as evidence of the agency’s “less than stellar reputation.” But this misrepresents the fact noted by the CIA’s Valerie Plame Wilson that “it was widely known [in the intelligence community] that CURVEBALL was not a credible source and that there were serious problems with his reporting.”

As I’ve documented elsewhere, the WMD threat mythology was not the outcome of an ‘intelligence failure’, as Schindler and his ilk like to claim, but a consequence of the corruption and politicization of intelligence under the influence of dubious vested interests.

Also contrary to Schindler’s misinformation, an IIR provides raw intelligence data from human sources (HUMINT), not simply rumour, gossip or opinion. Before wider distribution, the IIR is vetted to determine whether it is worthy of dissemination to the intelligence community. IIRs then provide a source basis for evaluation, interpretation, analysis and integration with other information.

Far from justifying the dismissal of the relevance of the declassified DIA documents, this shows that urgent questions must be asked:

What happened to this raw intelligence data, described by six US UK intelligence experts as providing damning confirmation of how Western strategy led to the rise of ISIS?

And why did it not lead to a change in policy, despite DIA analysts’ clear warning of the outgrowth of an ISIS-entity from Western allies’ desire to see a ‘Salafist Principality’ in the region?—?a warning which was, in hindsight, quite accurate?

 

Are intel critics traitors?

Schindler previously characterized NSA whistleblower Edward Snowden as a traitor and “pawn… of America’s adversaries.”

He now declares that those who cite the DIA report as proof the intelligence community “knew more about the rise of the Islamic State than they let on” are at best “fools; at worst, they’re deceivers who have lied to the American people.”

On the contrary, six decorated former senior US and British intelligence officials, many with direct experience of IIRs and their function, agree that the DIA report provides significant insight into the kind of intelligence available to the US intelligence community at the time.

Yet for Schindler, it seems, Ellsberg, Drake, Rowley, Crooke, Machon and Shoebridge are all, effectively, traitors simply for lending their expertise to public understanding of the newly declassified documents.

As Marcy Wheeler points out in Salon, the large corpus of secret DIA documents obtained by Judicial Watch demonstrates, at the least, that:

“The Intelligence Community (IC) knew that AQI had ties to the rebels in Syria; they knew our Gulf and Turkish allies were happy to strengthen Islamic extremists in a bid to oust Assad; and CIA officers in Benghazi (at a minimum) watched as our allies armed rebels using weapons from Libya. And the IC knew that a surging AQI might lead to the collapse of Iraq. That’s not the same thing as creating ISIS. But it does amount to doing little or nothing while our allies had a hand in creating ISIS. All of which ought to raise real questions about why we’re still allied with countries willfully empowering terrorist groups then, and how seriously they plan to fight those terrorist groups now. Because while the CIA may not have deliberately created ISIS, it sure seems to have watched impassively as our allies helped to do so.”

However, Wheeler overlooks that the reliance on foreign allies is a standard proxy war strategy?—?as Ellsberg explained in his interview?—?used by the covert operations arm of the US government to guarantee ‘plausible deniability.’

As I noted in my Middle East Eye analysis of the DIA document, there is extensive evidence against which to contextualize the DIA report’s assertions. This evidence shows that the CIA did not merely watch “impassively” as the Gulf states and Turkey supported violent extremists in Syria, but actively supervised, facilitated and accelerated this policy.

The August 2012 DIA document further corroborates this by repeatedly pointing out that the support to the Syrian insurgency from its allies was itself backed by “the West”?—?despite awareness of their intent to establish an extremist Salafi political entity.

While the DIA document was, indeed, just one data-point, analyzing it in context with the other DIA reports along with incontrovertible facts in the public record, establishes that the Pentagon was complicit in its allies’ support of Islamist terrorists, despite recognizing this could create an “Islamic State” in Iraq and Syria.

These revelations show that the real traitors are not the courageous whistleblowers who sacrifice everything to speak out on behalf of the public interest, but shameless shills like Schindler and Morell who willfully sanitize a dysfunctional and dangerous ‘national security’ system from legitimate public scrutiny.

 

 


Dr Nafeez Ahmed is an investigative journalist, bestselling author and international security scholar. A former Guardian writer, he writes the ‘System Shift’ column for VICE’s Motherboard, and is also a columnist for Middle East Eye. He is the winner of a 2015 Project Censored Award, known as the ‘Alternative Pulitzer Prize’, for Outstanding Investigative Journalism for his Guardian work, and was selected in the Evening Standard’s ‘Power 1,000’ most globally influential Londoners.

 

Nafeez has also written for The Independent, Sydney Morning Herald, The Age, The Scotsman, Foreign Policy, The Atlantic, Quartz, Prospect, New Statesman, Le Monde diplomatique, New Internationalist, Counterpunch, Truthout, among others. He is the author of A User’s Guide to the Crisis of Civilization: And How to Save It (2010), and the scifi thriller novel ZERO POINT, among other books. His work on the root causes and covert operations linked to international terrorism officially contributed to the 9/11 Commission and the 7/7 Coroner’s Inquest.

 

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Mon, 06/08/2015 - 21:31 | 6176901 p00k1e
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We’re wussies, what does it matter?

Little pieces of paper, lawfully, control us.    

The jig is up, fellas. 

Mon, 06/08/2015 - 21:32 | 6176902 Jack Burton
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I feel like I am owed this one. I told you so!

It was all open source information what the USA was doing with the arming, funding and training of radical Islamic Jihad. In Turkey and Jordan, with Libya as a supply and recruitment base. After NATO destroyed Libya, they opened it up as their most important recruitment base, and also handed over all the arms of Libya's armed forces to radical Islamists. All the USA required was for the Jihadists to say they wanted to overthrow Assad. CIA and all of them knew they were collecting the most radical Islamists on earth and training them in bases in Turkey, and the biggest and most secret in Jordan.

Like I said, it was all open source. Any American journalist could have revealed this story. Nobody did, they valued their careers with major media, rather than digging for the truth.

In time, the public will learn what has happened in Ukraine as well. The Nazis, the coup, the lies, the Kiev Juntas mass killing and attacks on civilian cities. All backed by the USA. That information too is open source. I have it, but US journalists turn a blind eye to all the truth. No Nazis in Ukraine they say, while thousands of pictures and videos exist of Ukrainian Nazis and their acts.

America is a land of lies. It's that simple.

Mon, 06/08/2015 - 22:03 | 6176981 Atomizer
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Ditto. 

ISIS flag, decoded

http://thepeoplescube.com/peoples-blog/isis-flag-decoded-upside-down-guy...

 

Who's up for a little goat shag Intel training? 


Mon, 06/08/2015 - 22:44 | 6177091 cherry picker
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In Respect to so called Russian agression, I read Putin's response today.

He said something to the effect, "Take a map of the world and mark where all the USA military installations are and then do the same for Russia's military installations"

When a man points to evidence, it is hard to refute.

Mon, 06/08/2015 - 22:54 | 6177118 samsara
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I thought so from the get go also.

 

 Let me see,  They drove thru Iraq on a laid out course from storage depot to storage depot,  stopping by a bank on the way and withdrew $200 million in cash that just happened to be there for them....  It almost seems like they were well planned.  The US then HAD to order replacements from the various defense contractors and everybody wins....

We were lied to again...

 

Mon, 06/08/2015 - 23:05 | 6177158 usednabused
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America is a land of lies for sure. And liars. And I don't see how anyone can't recognize that its terrorism inc. based right out of Langley with offices in DC. It's Satan as its been called many times.

Tue, 06/09/2015 - 00:56 | 6177377 dsty
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Yes comrade

land of lies

but you are only giving partial truth aren't you

why are you covering for Russian sins?

Tue, 06/09/2015 - 01:09 | 6177396 YHC-FTSE
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Not just America, but the UK and Australia too. I've been trying to urge the public to have our former foreign secretary and closet zionist, William Hague arrested for the crime of funding, inciting and logistically supporting terrorism in Syria for years now.

Lost count of the number of times I've bemoaned the fact that not a single fucking msm journalist ever reported the links between the creation of ISIS and the CIA. Like everyone else, I had to piece it all together with disparate bits of information, especially in the Summer of 2013 when the narrative was so strong for an invasion of Syria and they let all the information out quite openly: 1) about CIA terrorist training camps in Jordan (Reported in the Telegraph) when it was all the rage to support Al Nusra and the SFA 2) about Israeli hospitals treating Muslims fighting Assad (Spun by Sky News as a "humanitarian" piece) 3) Rebel chemical weapons seized in Turkey (Reported by RT and quickly buried in the msm)

As for Ukraine, after all these years of spotting lies in the msm, it still shocks me that the news gathering agencies which are trusted by so many continue to tell outright lies and lies by omission to drive the Neocon/Zionist Vicky Nuland narrative for war and hate.

Tue, 06/09/2015 - 02:37 | 6177528 cherry picker
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It is public knowledge about the CIA billions uses for propaganda and to buy off journalists.

How the CIA can still exist in a country ruled by 'law' as Obama often refers to is beyond me, unless they have dirt on all the pols and head of the DOJ and more, which I believe to be true.

None of us would like all of our skeletons to be advertised.  We may not be the people we once may have been or maybe it was an isolated mistake, but that isolated mistake of decades past may be big enough to destroy a present.

Those who claim to have no blemishes I trust the least, knowing they are probably the worst and the MSM is quick to jump on anything rotten, unless it can bite back, like the CIA.

But my thinking is it will be the undoing of the USA by following this path as it never succeeded in keeping a nation on top in history, they all fell.

They tempt fate with this and fate inevitably wins.

Tue, 06/09/2015 - 03:31 | 6177567 HowdyDoody
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US trained and supported groups that became the Taliban in Afghanistan, groups that became the Chechen terorists, groups that became ISIS, death squads in South America, Gladio in Europe, Nazis in Ukraine. That's quite a list. I am looking forward to Nuremburg, the replay.

Mon, 06/08/2015 - 21:35 | 6176915 Reaper
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What is the truth? Cui bono? Does not government always lie? Who pays? Who benefits from this bogeyman?

Doubt is the beginning of wisdom. What are you expected to do? Who benefits from your actions? An army marches on its stomach? Who provides food and weapons? http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/09/30/isis-iraqi-air-force_n_5908864....

Mon, 06/08/2015 - 22:03 | 6176978 djsmps
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Well I know you won't find the truth in the HuffPost, but the very fact that is your source tells me a lot about you.

Mon, 06/08/2015 - 21:45 | 6176938 Cabreado
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And for the good news... the Sociopaths are being exposed, as are the sychophants, and their pathologically-involuntary miscalculations are coming to a head.

All that is left to do then, is to vigorously protect the Foundation.

Mon, 06/08/2015 - 22:19 | 6177015 PrimalScream
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ZH - I respect your right to DIG, and to ask the tough questions.  It's what you should be doing.

But one DIA report - with innuendo - hardly supports an elobrate conspiracy.  I seriously hope that NO American officials had anything to do with the creation of ISIS.  And if I am wrong, I hope those people resign immediately, move to the Berring Strait, and spend the rest of their lives ice fishing.  Surely NO government official could be so stupid.  ISIS is a cancer that we cannot cure.  It is insanity to cook up such a scheme.  Before this is all over, ISIS will cost the lives of a lot of Americans.

I think that it's more likely that ISIS was birthed by the depraved fantasies of agents from Iraq and Turkey.  Probably funded by sources in Saudi Arabia and the Gulf.  Possibly 'exploited' by some Western Governments.  But mostly a Middle East creation.

And ultimately - a conflagration in this Global Tinder Box!

Mon, 06/08/2015 - 22:23 | 6177040 Billy the Poet
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Isn't it odd how the US accidentally supports evil doers time and time again?  Noriega, Saddam, the Taliban, Al Qaeda...

Mon, 06/08/2015 - 22:54 | 6177121 Kprime
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you hope no american officials had anything to do with this?  they should resign?  dude don't get to close the edge of that cloud ur on, you might fall.

Mon, 06/08/2015 - 23:09 | 6177169 usednabused
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PS, you better pull your head out of your fucking ass before you suffocate. Its already affected your thinking I see.

Mon, 06/08/2015 - 23:22 | 6177213 Anusocracy
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Virtually all of the goings on in the ME are the consequences of what the US and its fellow gangbangers do.

Tue, 06/09/2015 - 00:49 | 6177366 dsty
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How dare you tell the truth!

What the hell is wrong with you?

This is ZH

we reserve the right to publish RT propaganda

down vote crew main your battle stations!

Tue, 06/09/2015 - 01:16 | 6177409 TheCentralScrut...
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Just ask ourselves..  Who is currently making a sh*tload of money smuggling IS oil out of Syria to the global markets?

The US?  Nah.. they are busy in Kurdistan, who are actually very big supporters of Americans.

The Saudis?  Nah..  no pipelines..  

Jordan..  doubtful.. 

Lebanon?  Also doubtful.. 

That just leaves Erdogan's Turkey..    

Erdogan doesn't like Arabs..   And he probably doesn't like ISIS, especially if it threatens his rule..   But he hates Assad..  and the Iranian influence that he represents because Turkey really dislikes the Persian Iranians.. 

So does Erdogan see a scenario where ISIS, Al Nusra, and Assad literally tear Syria apart so that the Turks are "motivated" to re-establish their new Caliphate (ala.. Ottoman Empire)?   

Perhaps.. 

Erdogan thinks of himself as a new Ottoman..  Even moved in a 1000+ room palace fit for a Sultan.

People honestly give the US intelligence folks TOO MUCH CREDIT..   Right now the ball is in the hands of the regional actors and we're just hoping to buy some influence.. 

But the US controls nothing in that region right now..  at least nothing of any consequence.

Scrutinizer

Tue, 06/09/2015 - 01:19 | 6177415 TheCentralScrut...
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Erdogan's new $615 million Presidential "Crib"..

http://news.yahoo.com/cockroaches-made-want-palace-says-turkeys-erdogan-...

Scrutinizer

Tue, 06/09/2015 - 06:09 | 6177654 fel.temp.reparatio
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Technically, it's not Erdogan's Turkey that's to blame - the Turks don't get a say - it's Erdogan's politics, and the man himself. He is an Islamist, no argument, but to put all the blame squarely on his shoulders would be naive. You need to take into consideration the role of a man called Gulen, the CIA and Incirlik AFB when you look at the bigger picture of Turkey's involvement. There's much more to this than meets the eye, it's spaghetti and meatballs.

Mon, 06/08/2015 - 22:20 | 6177031 jmaloy5365
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ISIS is the new bigger badder boogie man.

Mon, 06/08/2015 - 22:50 | 6177105 Kprime
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The whole us .gov, top to bottom and the MIC, the FED, and corporate america is nothing but a crock of shit.

 

They don't care who they trample on and who they kill.  If the youth of today don't wise up and stay out of the military, well then, they deserve to die.

Tue, 06/09/2015 - 06:28 | 6177667 fel.temp.reparatio
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We live in the age of lies, and it's all meant to attract and distract from what we actually should be doing - living a sovereign life. Recognize when you are being lied to, acknowledge it and act (don't react). We all have choices, even if you choose not to choose.

Mon, 06/08/2015 - 23:02 | 6177146 Kprime
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On a long enough timeline the survival rate for every fiat currency drops to zero.
On a long enough timeline the survival rate for every military drops to zero.
On a long enough timeline the survival rate for every government drops to zero.

Mon, 06/08/2015 - 23:14 | 6177188 petkovplamen
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Color me obvious. I got me a rule of thumb now when it comes to USA's Corporate Owned Media. Whatever they tell me, I know the exact opposite is true.

Mon, 06/08/2015 - 23:58 | 6177279 Hubbs
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Things are so screwed up now that I really don't know whom to believe. I am wondering if the US is purposely destabilizing the Middle East, planting the seeds for groups like ISIS to spread into Russia and infiltrate/destabilize it.

Tue, 06/09/2015 - 00:57 | 6177378 TheCentralScrut...
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Hubbs, what do you think Putin's agenda has been in Syria?

What's Iran's agenda in Syria?

It takes "Two to Tango"..    Happen to notice that almost all of Syria's military equipment is Russian?

Scrutinizer

Tue, 06/09/2015 - 06:19 | 6177660 fel.temp.reparatio
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...and almost all of ISIS's military equipment is American. Go figure! hehe

Tue, 06/09/2015 - 08:59 | 6178057 Hubbs
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Well, what do you Putin is going to do? Just stand there and let US et al up to their mischeivous power mongering plans? Maybe I read too much of/into  Paul Craig Roberts, but when I see something, as per Greg Hunter, is "too stupid to be stupid" (US's handling of affairs in the Middle East), then I have to suspect something else.

Tue, 06/09/2015 - 00:09 | 6177293 rejected
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Since they declassified all of this it shows they really don't give a shit what anyone thinks about it.

Someday, someone tired of our crap will do to us what we have been doing all over the world. I'll bet most won't like it.

Tue, 06/09/2015 - 00:29 | 6177333 blindman
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Tom Waits - Twenty-Nine Dollars
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YbvG4jeH33U
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etc ....

Tue, 06/09/2015 - 00:50 | 6177368 DarthVaderMentor
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The big question boiling up is..."Just who is running this country? Who is the mastermind?" The White House appears to be a bunch of puppets as do many high level bureaucrats. The Senate and Congress appear to be doing the bidding for anyone but the people and the press are totally bought off and owned by special interests.

Tue, 06/09/2015 - 08:35 | 6177959 IndianaJohn
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Don't be so dramatic. Name them "special interests" Otherwise I will believe that "special interests" means "jews"

Tue, 06/09/2015 - 08:48 | 6178021 Bobbo
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Vanguard ?

Tue, 06/09/2015 - 00:53 | 6177370 TheCentralScrut...
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Wow!!  You read ONE IIR, that lacks source of information, or the SOURCE rating on credibility, and suddenly everyone becomes a "sexual intellectual"..  A F***ing "Know It All" about ISIS.. 

That IIR represents someone opinion.  It could the opinion of a Case Officer, or that of his source.   It is NOT finished intelligence!

Without going into extensive detail, I have a bit of experience on this subject.  Because I was one of the people who would review IIRs for dissemination to various analysts throughout the intelligence community.  That was over a decade ago, and I'm no longer working in that field, but the process remains the same.

I personally reviewed over 1,500 IIRs for dissemination.   My team did thousands more..    I read other people's IIRs by the thousands..  I worked with the collectors, providing advice, critical revision, and editing.. 

And I'm telling you right now that you're reading FAR TOO MUCH into this.

This could be a source's attempt at disinformation, creating influence, or guiding analysts perspective.  Happens ALL the time, which is why it has to be vetted before it becomes finished intelligence.

And NOTHING in that IIR suggests that the US "created" ISIS.   And if the US is "complicit" because it did nothing to prevent the rise of ISIS, that's an allegation that can be shared with almost EVERY OTHER COUNTRY, including Russia.  Anyone see Russian troops fighting ISIS, like US troops are doing right now?  European?  Turkish?

If any country is "complicit" it has been Turkey.  They've permitted ISIS recruits to transit their country in route to Syria and Iraq.  And unless people haven't noticed, Erdogan won't permit the US to launch strikes against ISIS from Incirlik.  It has to launch them from the Persian Gulf states.

As for a gas pipeline through Syria, does anyone actually think that such a pipeline would be safe under the rulership of the Islamic State?  Seriously? 

Does the US have an interest in driving a wedge between Syria and Iran, as well as Hizballah?  Damn right!!   But so do quite a few other countries, including Turkey and Saudia Arabia.

And almost all of these Persian Gulf states have lent their support to the Moslem Brotherhood, Hamas, and Al Nusra, not ISIS.   That may change as events on the ground unfold, if Iran becomes more active, but they ALL fear ISIS as a potential threat to their rule.   If anything, they hope that Al-Nusra, ISIS, and the Shi'a Iraqis kill one another so they can take over and get those pipelines running through Syria.

So get a f**king grip..   They only way the US has been supporting ISIS is indirectly.. by Iraqi military units abandoning their US made equipment because their leadership sucks..

Scrutinizer 

Tue, 06/09/2015 - 05:35 | 6177637 Lurk Skywatcher
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Once a company man, always a company man. I bet they gave you the cherry flavor kool-aid, they don't waste the good stuff on the retards.

Tue, 06/09/2015 - 00:54 | 6177373 SmittyinLA
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Divide and conquer is as old as the Jews, the US  version is " diversity" 

Tue, 06/09/2015 - 01:03 | 6177389 SmittyinLA
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The federal government had a warehouse full of reports on the state of Libya and what would happen if Kadafi were removed by force, all the scenarios were bad  all the reports said the same thing, chaos would reign. Islamic Jihad would run a muck all over North Africa and advanced weapons would  fall into the hands of terrorists all over Africa causing chaos and mayhem not only in Africa and the Middle East but all over the world for decades,  all of those reports were disregarded.

Tue, 06/09/2015 - 08:47 | 6178018 Bobbo
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Or maybe not disragarded.  Who knows what evil lurks...

Tue, 06/09/2015 - 01:53 | 6177454 onmail
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America is a terrorist state, a rouge state .

America has assumed control of all world

America is destroying nations everywhere.

America needs culling.

 

 

Tue, 06/09/2015 - 06:59 | 6177714 Infinite QE
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Replace America with ZOG and you've got it right.

Tue, 06/09/2015 - 01:56 | 6177462 Monetas
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They released this shit .... because they are proud of their success .... the Arab Spring continues to set Muslin against Muslim .... Assad has been seriously contained .... Hizbollah is pissed .... Iran is pissed .... Russia is pissed .... China is pissed .... Israel has to be delighted .... I'm happy for them !

Tue, 06/09/2015 - 02:59 | 6177546 CHX
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ISIS is the perfect "no-real-threat-to-US-but-everyone-else-across-the-pond" enemy to keep the fear-porn via MSM alive and the NSA and military complex and their cronies blooming. So...

Tue, 06/09/2015 - 08:45 | 6178006 Bobbo
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But ....   I read where there are half a million of them in underground bunkers all across TEXAS of all places, waiting to rush out and take control of the national guard so they could nuke OKLAHOMA to teach it a lesson in humiolity..... or something like that,,.. I forget.  Jones could explain it better than I could, fer shur.

Tue, 06/09/2015 - 05:00 | 6177583 NuYawkFrankie
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re USSA/Pentagon complicit in ISIS creation -ex US Inteligence Offical

Any five-year old (who wasn't too busy crayoning) could've told you that - and would've probably thrown in Mossad as a freebie.

 

Tue, 06/09/2015 - 06:58 | 6177712 Infinite QE
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The Pentagram does nothing without clearance from Tel Aviv.

Tue, 06/09/2015 - 04:44 | 6177614 ZippyDooDah
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Excellent.  This is why I keep reading ZH.  Once in a while, you really

get it right.

Tue, 06/09/2015 - 05:07 | 6177625 IronForge
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Let's see some detailed transactions leaked on the UKR, IRN, and CHN fronts -

Tue, 06/09/2015 - 05:52 | 6177642 Debugas
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lets nuke russia compain support:

investmentwatchblog.com/obama-supporters-sign-petition-to-nuke-russia-so-america-will-stay-worlds-superpower/

Tue, 06/09/2015 - 08:41 | 6177966 Mike Masr
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Yes, this is a good idea. How will America stay the world's superpower with this action? Every major US metropolitan city will have a weather forecast of 200 million degrees and become a smoking lifeless crater. Very smart idea! Maybe your one of those Georgia Guidestone people seeking to cull the population. 

Tue, 06/09/2015 - 05:53 | 6177644 fel.temp.reparatio
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"All the world's a stage, and all the men and women merely players; They have their exits and their entrances, and one man in his time plays many parts, his acts being seven ages." - William Shakespeare

Tue, 06/09/2015 - 07:38 | 6177789 the6thBook
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This article is the same as calling me a murderer if I give money to a bum and the bum overdoses on drugs.  I don't see how they intended to create ISIS.  They were stupid in thinking that they could pick out "moderate" muslims, because we have president stupid.

Tue, 06/09/2015 - 11:02 | 6178593 SirBarksAlot
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This is corroborated by the Wayne Madsen Report.

Worse yet, is that John Kerry was in a bicycle accident at the end of May that has side-lined him from the nuclear talks with Iran, allowing the likes of Joe Biden and company to further their agenda of the eternal flame of war for Israel.

Tue, 06/09/2015 - 08:02 | 6177856 Debugas
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this may go unnoticed but here is a prediction

there will be an assasination attempt when Putin visits pope Fransis in Rome

Tue, 06/09/2015 - 10:59 | 6178577 SirBarksAlot
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WTF? Say it ain't so!!  But, I thought Putin wasn't like the other guys.

oh well.

Tue, 06/09/2015 - 08:09 | 6177877 Mike Masr
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And like the old retard neocon McCain said standing next to Oleh Tyahnybok in Kiev, There are no Nazi's here!

 

Tue, 06/09/2015 - 08:25 | 6177917 mastersnark
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We have always been at war with Eastasia.

Tue, 06/09/2015 - 09:31 | 6178219 Brazen Heist
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If they could support the Talibs and Al Qaeda, then this is definitely possible.

Tue, 06/09/2015 - 09:38 | 6178243 Firewood
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I$I$...psychopathic filth designed in the USSA for the triumvirate of evil, Crypt of Saud, Apartheid Israhell and the land of the exceptionally degenerate thugocracy in Washing town.

 

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