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Obama Goes Full Stalin: Tells Secret Court To Ignore Law He Signed 4 Hours Earlier, Extend Illegal NSA Surveillance
Just when we thought the absurdity that marks every single day of Obama's reign could not possibly be surpassed, we learned that 4 hours (3 hours and 47 minutes to be precise) after the US president vowed to sign a new law banning bulk data collection by the NSA (named, for purely grotesque reasons, the "USA Freedom Act"), the Obama administration asked the secret Fisa surveillance court to ignore a federal court that found bulk surveillance illegal and to once again grant the National Security Agency the power to collect the phone records of millions of Americans for six months.
Or, as the Guardian's Spencer Ackerman, who spotted this glaring page out of Josef Stalin's playbook, summarized it:
June 2, 6:03pm: Obama says he'll sign law banning bulk collection.
June 2 9:50pm: DOJ asks secret court for 180 more days of bulk collection
— Spencer Ackerman (@attackerman) June 8, 2015
According to Ackerman, this latest travesty by the administration "suggests that the administration may not necessarily comply with any potential court order demanding that the collection stop."
Or, in other words, the administration "may" give orders that openly flaunt US laws. From the Guardian:
US officials confirmed last week that they would ask the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance court – better known as the Fisa court, a panel that meets in secret as a step in the surveillance process and thus far has only ever had the government argue before it – to turn the domestic bulk collection spigot back on.
This is a problem because Justice Department national security chief John A Carlin cited a six-month transition period provided in the USA Freedom Act – passed by the Senate last week to ban the bulk collection – as a reason to permit an “orderly transition” of the NSA’s domestic dragnet. However, Carlin "did not address whether the transition clause of the Freedom Act still applies now that a congressional deadlock meant the program shut down on 31 May."
So after the second circuit court of appeals already ruled NSA surveillance illegal, and after Congress officially shut down NSA's bulk data collection in its current form, Obama's DOJ decided to singlehandedly order that NSA spying on Americans be extended for at least another 6 months.
Follow the details of how the US Department of "Justice" crushes every semblance thereof:
Carlin asked the Fisa court to set aside a landmark declaration by the second circuit court of appeals. Decided on 7 May, the appeals court ruled that the government had erroneously interpreted the Patriot Act’s authorization of data collection as “relevant” to an ongoing investigation to permit bulk collection.
Carlin, in his filing, wrote that the Patriot Act provision remained “in effect” during the transition period.
“This court may certainly consider ACLU v Clapper as part of its evaluation of the government’s application, but second circuit rulings do not constitute controlling precedent for this court,” Carlin wrote in the 2 June application. Instead, the government asked the court to rely on its own body of once-secret precedent stretching back to 2006, which Carlin called “the better interpretation of the statute”.
The punchline:
The second circuit court of appeals is supposed to bind only the circuit’s lower courts. But the unique nature of the Fisa court – whose rulings practically never became public before whistleblower Edward Snowden’s revelations – has left ambiguous which public court precedents it is obliged to follow.
Said otherwise, the NSA's espionage activity is above the law, any law.
Amusingly, some still harbor hope that "justice" is still a viable concept in the United States, such as the FreedomWorks conservative group, which is asking the Fisa court to essentially disband itself:
On Friday, the conservative group FreedomWorks filed a rare motion before the Fisa court, asking it to reject the government’s surveillance request as a violation of the fourth amendment’s prohibition on unreasonable searches and seizures. Fisa court judge Michael Moseman gave the justice department until this coming Friday to respond – and explicitly barred the government from arguing that FreedomWorks lacks the standing to petition the secret court.
Which, incidentally, is like asking Wall Street to police itself. A quick reminder of what happened there: after gross market manipulation was taking place for years involving trillions of interest-rate products, the person who witnessed it every single day called it, don't laugh, a "conspiracy theory."
Incidentally, "conspiracy theorists" is precisely what all those who accused the NSA of engaging in mass illegal surveillance even before the Snowden revelations, were branded as. And, we are confident, before all is said and done, the "conspiracy theorists" who dare speak the truth against the surreal Orwellian state that the US finds itself in, will be crushed by the administration, both the current and the one that will replace it, whose every day modus operandi is taken straight out of the Stalin memoirs.
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Oh Diebold insures that wont happen. It's about locking you down now.
Flout. Not flaunt.
You guys will have to replace the whole government as Jeb is sounding too much like Cheny or GW, Obama proved on multiple occasions he is a liar and incompetent, Hillary is flat out dangerous, and congress doesn't know what the meaning of work, honesty or integrity is.
If you replace your government, what kind of system will you get to straighten this mess out?
Hmmm, I thought so.
What kind of system?
One where anyone that thinks they are better than other humans will be sent to Mars to be the bitch of some Grays.
So, that's like a good thing right? I mean our own beloved FDR had a serious man crush on 'Uncle Joe', as he lovingly called him, so despite killing 20+million people, going full Stalin is good, right?
Fuckers. all of them.
Obongo is a puppet, here are the puppet masters:
Christopher Bollyn, 06 November 2008
the ZWO force is strong with those Chicago politicians
I guess this is also why the gov keeps buying up America's supply of ammo, gun powder etc. Was talking to a trap shooting buddy recently and supplies are still in chronic shortage. The 2nd doesn't really matter when the gov keeps everything in short supply. Where are all of the lawsuits? Can Americans buy from foreign nations since the US has such a terrible and long term shortage? Still no explanations and no one seems to even be asking, unbelievable.
The ammo manufactures are involved in this as well as government. They're making bigger profits from less sales and I'm sure their lovin it.
Time to whack this guy already. Its everyone's duty.
Speaking of Stalin:
Stalin's letter "Anti-Semitism: Reply to an Inquiry of the Jewish News Agency in the United States" dated January 12, 1931 indicated his official position:
In answer to your inquiry: National and racial chauvinism is a vestige of the misanthropic customs characteristic of the period of cannibalism. Anti-semitism, as an extreme form of racial chauvinism, is the most dangerous vestige of cannibalism.
Anti-semitism is of advantage to the exploiters as a lightning conductor that deflects the blows aimed by the working people at capitalism. Anti-semitism is dangerous for the working people as being a false path that leads them off the right road and lands them in the jungle. Hence Communists, as consistent internationalists, cannot but be irreconcilable, sworn enemies of anti-semitism.
In the U.S.S.R. anti-semitism is punishable with the utmost severity of the law as a phenomenon deeply hostile to the Soviet system. Under U.S.S.R. law active anti-semites are liable to the death penalty.
In 1936 Pravda, the party's newspaper and main propaganda organ, printed a beneficial explanation of the vile nature of anti-Semitism. It stated that "national and racial chauvinism is a survival of the barbarous practices of the cannibalistic period... it served the exploiters... to protect capitalism from the attack of the working class; anti-Semitism, a phenomenon profoundly hostile to the Soviet Union, is repressed in the USSR."
If accurate, it adds further to show how closely aligned the Bolsheviks and their successors were to the jews.
He's just saying keep your eye on the ball. Problem with Stalin was looking at the wrong ball. Like so many others before and after him in the U.S.
Fuck Obama, he's a Piece of Shit..
Oh, I didn't mean that, I was talking about Hillary.
isnt it funny the bulk collection is for mostly white people communication as they are the group that th gov is affraid of...and all the blacks complain that justice isnt fair.
Obama
Shit
Same Thing...
I down voted you thinking it was a poll. Sorry....
I up voted you cuz that's funny.
Obama is doing his best to maintain his Enemy of the State status.
How long will it take American's to realize that Barack Hussein Obama is "the enemy within"? We were warned we would never be destroyed from outside sources, it could only be from within.
Let's simplify ---> Hitler is back & this time he's black!
Look around the place you live.
I’m surrounded by multiculturalism myself. Sometimes the Indian dudes will mistake the Arabic women as theirs wives because of the Burqa. And vice-verse. Big arguments.
Then the little Latino kids rattling off as fast as they can.
The Asians with the Kendo Sticks walk around sizing everyone up ready to pounce.
Not to mention the giant lesbians Gun walking through Wal-Mart.
Multiculturalism is fine. It's the fascist totalitarian little nazis that are ruining it all that are the problem. Let everyone do their thing so long as they don't harm anyone else. You want to light a mushroom on fire and smoke it, fine. You want to grow a plant, fine. Don't hurt anyone and we're all cool.
The non-violence principle is king. If we could agree to that municipally regionally, or in a dream, globally, we'd be good to go.
"Let everyone do their thing so long as they don't harm anyone else"....impossible with man apart from God of Scripture as history proves and repeats over and over...those societies that honored Christ always thrived and then they fall under HIS "wrath of abandonment", where we turn our backs on His ways meant for our good and let's go our own way and the result is a moral sewer full of lies, envy, murder, divorce et al.
If you're talking about cultures, the west, namely the United States has been the cause of murder of more people than any nation on earth. Government (of all types) has murdered by far, the most of all human beings on this planet. Wrapping murder or violence with religion is fucking bullshit. We are all human beings and we must treat each other with respect and care.
Jesus, Muhammad, Buddha, etc would agree with that statement. It's ironically in the muslim code to do just that to strangers.
But, But But 9/11!!!!!!!! Cognitive dissonance much?
Ignore the goodness of Jesus by the laws he gave for our good, then he reached the point where he lets a person, a society and a nation go it's own way or what seems right in their sight and the result is debauchery to the nth degree because man has a dark nature as evident in the individual in the mirror and the society as reflected by the culture or lack of culture. Thank you God and I look forward to see how this plays out when you continue to exercise your "wrath of abandonment".
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Remember if no one lied, stole cheated, covets others things, did not murder and loved their neighbors as themselves and loved God; what would the US look like; better or worse?...a no brainier..much better. Add the honoring of family as God designed, would there be more or less hope for the fabric of society, the God-defined marriage covenant? Again the answer is clear by how perverse it has and will become and the result is obvious and the children are the victims.
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Yet he still offers forgiveness; Allah and all other false Gods offer nothing; it is what makes them false. We have much further to fall as a result of the above...much more.
I can't phrase it better than Ghandi did:
"I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians"
Something tells me their scared shitless.....
Scared, Rushing, Clutching, scrambling.
7 billion variables, various levels of knowledge transfer(like ZH)....
To many things to go wrong. It won't work out like they plan.
Will they destroy us all before that is the question.
...."Most open administration ever"...
or something like that.
Ha.
"HOPE and change."
Hitler Attacks Nuclear Shills, Fukushima, WIPP a Hilarious Parody
Thanks enenews! Now this is an article at nukepro, well worth watching
http://nukeprofessional.blogspot.com/2015/06/hitler-attacks-nuclear-shil...
Hey NSA collect this. You are all fucking traitors and you will pay the price. Obama has comitted many acts of treason and will pay the price. Just because you both ignore the rule of law does not mean that you are above it. All you fuckers in the federal government are destroying this once great nation. What we really need is to destroy the fedreal government and start over.
sighed ISIS...
I will run for president and have him tried for treason. Let's get this started at my GoFundMe.
"I've always been perfectly clear on this...the fact that my regime is in control of American should send a chill up your spine every day because I'm going to destroy everything you love about your country."
Barry Obama
The way the gov tramples upon the supreme law of the land why would anyone be shocked if it ignored some POS legislative bill. And I'm sure this "secret" court he is referring to is constitutional,,, right?
Why everyone feigns surprise by the actions of this rogue junta is surprising.
We ain't seen shit yet... their saving the best for last.
Yet Obama's been talking lately about his legacy. His legacy will be that he left our wonderful American hertiage in shreds.
His legacy will be that he faithfully continued Bush's policies, doing exactly what Bush would have done had he been able to serve two more terms.
The continuum of presidencies since 1913 share a common legacy.
"What happened was the gradual habituation of the people, little by little, to be governed by surprise, to receiving decisions deliberated in secret; to believing that the situation was so complicated that the government had to act on information which the people could not understand, or so dangerous that, even if people could understand it, it could not be released because of national security ... To live in the process is absolutely not to notice it -- please try to believe me -- unless one has a much greater degree of political awareness, acuity, than most of us ever had occasion to develop. Each step was so small, so inconsequential, so well explained or, on occasion, regretted. Believe me this is true. Each act, each occasion is worse than the last, but only a little worse. You wait for the next and the next. You wait for one shocking occasion, thinking that others, when such a shock comes, will join you in resisting somehow. Suddenly it all comes down, all at once. You see what you are, what you have done, or, more accurately, what you haven't done (for that was all that was required of most of us: that we did nothing) ... You remember everything now, and your heart breaks. Too late. You are compromised beyond repair." - German professor after World War II describing the rise of Nazism to a journalist, as quoted in "They Thought They Were Free: The Germans, 1933-45" by Milton Mayer
OT
Well, I don't often post anything very positive but I did have positive experience today. It is actually not winter here in MN anymore so I thought I would go for a motorcycle ride and I was cruising around came up on a pretty new Corvette. I respected my distance but of course they saw me but continued to go 45 mph for a while. I was like WTF? Well, we came to a T in the road and they happened to be going the same direction that I was. There is pretty long straight away there and they opened that Vette up. I have a Harley Sportster(actually two of them but who is counting) with the fuel injection and the Screaming Eagle package. It is a fast bike as far as Harley's go.
I could not resist the challenge so cornered and rolled the throttle down and blasted through the gears. They saw that I was keeping up so they laid the lead to the pedal and left me in the dust but not out of sight. I was doing over 100 mph and they were walking away from me like I was standing still. Holy fuck! They had to be doing 150 mph plus. I kept on the throttle and I saw where they turned off. It was a very curvy road with many S curves. The Corvette is not so good there. I have ridden that road a few times so I know how to gain ground and I caught them. We rode/drove back into town at reasonable speeds and when we parted ways we gave each other a thumbs up and a smile. That is cool.
It was a Millennial driving that Corvette. Maybe borrowed from Dad? We risked a lot by doing what we did. That is not your average speeding ticket. The copzis get a really big boner to shove up your ass if you are clocked at over 100 mph. We didn't care. The Corvette and the Harley rolling at well over 100 mph through the cornfield roads must have been a quite a spectacle. I normally would not ride that hard but sometimes you have to. I felt alive. When you are going 100 mph on Harley chasing a new Corvette who is doing 150 mph that is complete disrespect for wathever they call law these days.
For me that harkens back to earlier times when no one gave a shit about some bullshit laws. That shit was OK to do back in the day but now everything is some sort of felony. Iti didn't matter at all to us today though. I am old enough to know better but it was awesome. I have no idea who these kids were but they seem pissed off. I did not get to drive any of Dad's anything because he died when I was six months old. I had to earn it and I take care of my family.
Sometimes the wind needs to cleanse your soul. What if I make a slight mistake at 100 mph? I die. I would rather die than be a slave.
I admire your writing skills, but question your authenticity...
In the Mid west, you often see peeps road testing their Sprint Cars.
Obama became the ghost of Obersalzberg.
Why doesn't someone put up an IMPEACH OBAMA website and take a petition. All petitions to the white house with over 100,000 signatures they usually address.
It is a start. I would do it but I am not an American. It would be better if the petitioner is home grown black or native, anything but white as they will use the race card and it is not about race, it is about lying, stealing, war crimes and more.
Maybe a few clowns in congress may get the idea that there are people who are fed up and it isn't safe anymore playing the game like it is being played.
As soon as the NBA finals are over.
Obama is just a dumb black muslim from Kenya
Every nation deserves its leader.
If so, we are so fucked in Australia.
no he is of jewish decend
but yes, he is dumb, with the main reason being mixed with black, his brain doesnt work jewish
b) he used drugs in his teens ( may he is taking them now) his brain is seriously dameged
still he is recieving his paycheck every month, playing the hero for fucked up us population
In east there is a belief that lower organs of body invite demons.
And when a sexuallyPerverted person is possessed with these , how he/she would act?
"I was against it before I was for it."
Whatever, you sock puppet parasite.
LMFAO. I don't know who-the-fuck is yanking that dude's chains but he has single-handedly resurrected Uncle Tom's ghost with a vengeance.
His middle name is Mugabe.
KENNEDY didnt want to play with the jews
they killed him
accaused a mentall ill man (without real proof) who went to live in communist country of killing kennedy
than, 2 days later this man?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Ruby
killed the murderer of kennedy
the cia doesnt even care if you know the true
they just need an official fact
and they are sometimes realy bad in creating official facts
i wonder how many millions mr. rubin's family recieved
I see your logic .... they killed Christ .... so a philandering Catholic president .... was easy ? LOL
@Asf... Thanks for the link. I can remember the day of the big event like it was yesterday. I've always been interested in the Kennedy thing, but I was completely unaware that Ruby had gone to Cuba and was involved with the "Fair Play for Cuba" group, which was the coverstory for the assasination. If so, Ruby was without question, a conspirator, which was never disclosed to the public because that would have put the lie to the "lone gunman" story. Again, thanks.
calling the FISA rubberstamp a court is like calling the USA a democracy instead of the demonocracy which it has become.
lets see, executive branch (bought and sold), congress (bought and sold), judicial (bought and sold ond or neutered) via NSA, FBI, CIA spying collusion extorsion.
Thats it folks, game set match. If you see a way out let me know...I don't.
Their treason is fighting against God Himself. One never wins when taking on the Most High. God is not on the side of oppressors. In their wholesale destruction of the principles of individual liberty this country was solidly founded upon, they are very clearly undoing what God Himself had a direct hand in bringing about. Their triumph will be of short duration. Read Revelation 18.
Whats the problem if you have nothing to to hide???
I'm going with the Chertoff-Group-supplied, NSA/DHS-recommended "On Line, All The Time" Full-Spectrum Cranium Transponder-Chip - the "Mikey" ;)
With "Mikey's" subliminal behaviour-modification prompts, not only do I get to be certiifiably "kosher" but - as a bi-pedal intelligence-gathering hub - I'm tracking any neiborhood-malcontents(effective range up to 100yds radius outdoors ;)
You get your Freedom Act Merit Badge, and it's a great, quick & effective way - with no need for Re-Eductaion Camp - to get fast-tracked for Trusted Comrade Citizen Privileges! Yeehaaa!!!
USSA!!! USSA!!!
Checks news, nobody cares.
This type of collection of data is of course nothing to do with protecting against foreign/terrorist threats of any kind and all to do with protecting the Status Quo of TPTB.
The data will be a stock pile of potential information on people who might rise in influence and be a threat to the powers of the status quo or the Elite want to use them for their own ends. Somebody who becomes a judge, regulator, politician and so forth, there will be tons of data on all your electronic activity over many years, too easy then to put you in jail, get you sacked, or blackmail you to do as your told.
And of course, once you have many thousands of pieces of electronic data on somebody over years it becomes quite easy to insert Invented data into the mix, in order to deal with that person.
Obama's declaration is in fact a declaration that there is no law in the USA.
Rulers invalidate their power and position when they put themselves above law, they make themselves Kings.
I think the Elite are in danger of flying too close to the sun.
LOL, lke pussy Americans will acually do something about it.....That would interfere with 'Game of Thrones' or 'Dancin with the (Jewish) 'Stars"
Trusting the socialist jew dominated media to choose your president for you never works out that well does it?
I vote for the candidate the socialist jew dominated media trashes the most, because I know that person has the 'best' interests of Americans at heart
A socialist Jew .... raised in Islam .... a man of colour .... he has it all .... to be Kumbaya Choir Master at the UN .... and bring us all together ?
Nobody ever said Obama was a socialist jew....try to keep up.....
I was denied access .... to refine my thoughts ! LOL
congress does not even try to convince the people they make and understand the laws they vote in..see ACA and most recent secret TPP..courts are given the final say, until they don't agree with .gov then they are overruled by secret courts of un named judges..republic? I think not.
once america became a super power, a republic form of government became a casualty of this new role.
(once a super power the need for security of the state leadership expands until it consumes any freedom the citizens once had) it is almost a comedy when news papers and media look past such little items as secret deals as national law, voted on by congress which never even read the law, ACA and TPP as recent examples..laughable.)
a good example of how it works is 2008, and a mega tax payer money dump into hank paulson's hands to be used by him in any way he wished. his actions were exempt from a controlling legal authority in perpetuity. as the risk to our rule as superpower is also based on our economy-
perhaps we have given too much to be a superpower..as no Republic can fill that role and remain a republic.
A National Security chief named Carlin .... well, that seems kinda problematic .... anally speaking ?
I don't know why this would come as a surprise to anyone. He also claimed he would not sign the NDAA and then proceeded to sign it on New Year's Eve when everyone was drunk.
I didn't ever think I could loathe a president more than I did George "the conqueror" Bush, but this clown Obama is really testing my resolve.
Oh, how far we have fallen!
Sad days for Amerika.
Brilliant disguise, rip roaring socialist as first gay black president. Sheeittttttt
Ignorance of the law is no excuse in court.
all this security stuff is bs-the f b i knew all about the B0ston b0mbers and they still did their dirty deed
Off topic a little:
A few of us nam-vet-tin-foil-hatters, are experiencing difficulties accessing ZH here in AUS.
One of our kids had to re-route our IP addreses to europe just to log in. WTF?
cart00ner, I am here in Melbourne, but have no troubles getting onto ZH.
All good, QLD is going through NBN network change. They tell us it will be better and I hope so as X-BOX is my only contact with my kids. (GHU) "god help us"
According to Ackerman, this latest travesty by the administration "suggests that the administration may not necessarily comply with any potential court order demanding that the collection stop."
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Despite a recent story that Obama has put his illegal immigration actions on hold he is probably still moving forward with it.
On the subject of Liberty, here is an interesting read. Too much to explain here but well worth your time--
http://yahushua.net/babylon/liberty/pagan_statue.htm
The US is in full on collapse. Secret courts, secret laws, militarisation of police forces and military practice in crowd control as Jade Helm. Its all so predictable. In collapse gov't turn their attention to the enemy within. That enemy is democracy. If wars stop and the military returns to find their own people and country destroyed from within they will take out the terrorists in Washington.
Hug your children every day before they leave for school.
Wednesday humor?
Obama would be at best be Stalin's waterboy.
I'm pretty sure then candidate Obama, in 2007, said one of the very first things he would do inside his first 100 days in offce, would be put an end to the FISA court
I called BS then because it was clear to me the type of person he was
But the liberal lemmings sucked it up like everything else he lied to them about
I sometimes wonder who ties their shoes for them every morning
suckers
When does it become treason?
that's not fair with Stalin...
To paraphrase Kennedy;
Secrecy Sucks!
Everything is a big fucking secret anymore.
National security secrets, secret laws, secret treaties, secret backdoors, secret regulations, secret executive orders, secret courts, secret surveillance, secret squirrel decoder rings. WTF?
I say we duct tape any public official who wants to keep all that should be public information (read that everything) secret to the nearest lamp post naked until he gives us his secret password, his secret Swiss bank account number and his secret hideout location.
The asswipes like to tell us that if we aren’t doing anything wrong we shouldn’t mind living in a fishbowl.
Well, shouldn’t that apply to them also?
JFK had it right.
~ DC
AH it's good to be king.
When the 6 month transition period is up, you can be assured he'll already have a new spin for the secret court for the need for an extention, and the secret court will grant it.