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Knife Regulation Arrives: This Is The US Government, Hard At Work

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When it comes to the contents of the TPP, the most important law of Obama's second term, merely leaking its contents to the press can have result in imprisonment or treason charges, which, considering recent revelations that a substantial portion of the bill was drafted by and for the express benefit of pharmaceutical companies, was to be expected:  when the US population learns that their elected legislators not only don't read the laws they "pass", but are merely bribed figureheads that don't even write them, the resultant collapse of the "democratic" process would be unpleasant.

And yet, other laws such as S.1315, are perfectly transparent and open. So, with nobody in Congress drafting the TPP (and apparently not even able to pass it, despite corporate backers' demands), here is a vivid example of the US government, hard at work.

presenting: S. 1315, Knife Owners’ Protection Act of 2015

S. 1315 would allow people to possess knives in states where they are illegal if the person is travelling to and from states where the knife is legal, if the knife is secured, or if the knife is a safety blade designed for cutting seatbelts. Based on information provided by the Department of Justice and the Federal Trade Commission, CBO estimates that implementing S. 1315 would have no effect on the federal budget. Because enacting S. 1315 would not affect direct spending or revenues, pay-as-you-go procedures do not apply.

 

S. 1315 would impose an intergovernmental mandate as defined in the Unfunded Mandates Reform Act (UMRA) by preempting some state and local laws related to possessing and transporting knives. Laws regulating knives vary from state to state. The costs for state and local governments to comply with that mandate would include the cost to change protocols and train law enforcement officers. CBO estimates the total costs for state and local governments would be small and would not exceed the threshold established in UMRA ($77 million in 2015, adjusted annually for inflation).

Yes, it would cost US taxpayers $77 million to "protect" knife owners, and yes if you own a knife, you too may be considered a threat.

h/t Bruce Krasting

 

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Tue, 06/16/2015 - 22:46 | 6204322 Bunga Bunga
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Every kitchen in the US became a terrorist base overnight.

Tue, 06/16/2015 - 23:59 | 6204471 Oldwood
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So you have had my wife's cooking?

Tue, 06/16/2015 - 22:59 | 6204340 Dre4dwolf
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S. 1315 would allow people to possess knives in states where they are illegal

 

There are states where knives are illegal? what kind of state makes knives illegal... wtf are we supposed to cut our food with plastic sporks?

 

Tue, 06/16/2015 - 23:02 | 6204351 Oldwood
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My goal in life is to live as an absolute pacifist, preaching non violence at every turn whilst demanding that my government through the force of arms and imprisonment, enforce my idyllic lifestyle.

I dream of life in a gilded cage. I just need to wet my beak occasionally.

Tue, 06/16/2015 - 23:04 | 6204357 Secret Weapon
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This law is clearly a cut above the others.

Tue, 06/16/2015 - 23:09 | 6204367 BiteMeBO
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I have always identifed and considered myself a knife for as long as I remember.  Therefore, I would exempt myself from any law or regulation that would restrict or prohibit me as a knife to carry or possess myself as a knife which I identify as a person - for as long as I can remember.  Knife. 

Tue, 06/16/2015 - 23:16 | 6204384 22winmag
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Forget about piano movers.

 

Soon we will need guillotine movers.

Tue, 06/16/2015 - 23:24 | 6204399 Duc888
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Yea, so tell me again why anyone votes for these assholes?

 

Consent?

 

ohhhh   fuck yea.  I get a chubby watching this vid.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7uwq8-ynH2w

To carve your little beady eyeballz out you cocksukkker politicians..

Tue, 06/16/2015 - 23:26 | 6204404 TheGreatRecovery
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It does not say it will cost $77-million.  It says it will cost LESS THAN $77-million.  It might only cost $1-million.

Tue, 06/16/2015 - 23:30 | 6204414 Northern Lights
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I guess my Rambo commemorative knife set is illegal????

Tue, 06/16/2015 - 23:38 | 6204425 NoWayJose
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This is just an excuse to reinforce the ability of police to search you and your car. If a cop sees a knife on the back seat, or on your person, then you get strip searched. Of course, a cop won't know if you have a knife in your trunk or glove box -- unless you are like a handful of idiots that say -- "sure officer, go ahead and search my car, my illegal knife if under that blanket"!

Tue, 06/16/2015 - 23:51 | 6204453 kchrisc
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Another criminal and Unconstitutional power grab over the American country and people, and the taking of more sovereignty from the states by the criminal occupiers of America, the DC US and their Zionist masters.

The 9th. amendment to the Constitution states:

"The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people."

And the 10th. states:

"The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people."

Translation: The DC US does not have the legal power to pass or impose S.1315, that power resides with the people and the states. Period.

Ditto for guns. The 2nd. amendment is NOT the only word on guns, but the 9th. and 10th. are as well.

Then there is Article 3, Section 3.

Liberty is a demand. Tyranny is submission.

Tue, 06/16/2015 - 23:56 | 6204462 Oldwood
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Tyranny is death or imprisonment for those who demand. 

Wed, 06/17/2015 - 00:05 | 6204486 22winmag
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America, Fuck Yeah!

 

The Vice Russian Roulette series is back with more from Ukraine: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0vJPL6PYDTM&list=PLw613M86o5o5zqF6WJR8zu...

Wed, 06/17/2015 - 01:43 | 6204614 Trucker Glock
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"Translation: The DC US does not have the legal power to pass or impose S.1315, that power resides with the people and the states. Period."

And there you have it.  States can oppress their citizens and people passing through with restrictive knife laws.  Wonderful.  Of course, .gov could apply a law like this for commercial purposes, allowing knife distributors to pass through with illegal knives.

Funny that .gov seems to want to protect people from restrictive state laws, and ZHers think it's a conspiracy.  I'm not referring to your post, you're just pointing out Constitutional dilema.  But, some jumped to the conclusion that .gov was trying to regulate knives.  Maybe I'm not paranoid enough.

Think of this as similar to Ron Paul's bill to allow raw milk to be transported across state lines, which got nowhere, of course.

Wake up suckas, sometimes your state wants to fuck you harder than .gov does.

Wed, 06/17/2015 - 00:16 | 6204499 Park
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Intersting! What is next?

Well, glad to have stumbled upon it following the link from The News Scouter:  http://newsscouter.com/

Wed, 06/17/2015 - 00:28 | 6204516 OhNo
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America fuck yeah. We have freedums. haha

Wed, 06/17/2015 - 00:28 | 6204517 exomike
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What about swords? As a gentleman I cannot be expected to go forth without my sword. However, now that I think about it, in 50+ years I have never been bothered about my sword, even in New York City.

Wed, 06/17/2015 - 00:31 | 6204518 nc551
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I own some switchblades for the novelty factor.  I can't take them over the border to my neighboring state because they are illegal there, even though I have a concealed weapon permit and always have a gun on me legally there.

Wed, 06/17/2015 - 00:46 | 6204538 q99x2
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I'm getting the impression that it is illegal for humans to possess a brain.

Wed, 06/17/2015 - 03:16 | 6204690 Kprime
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Unless you are traveling to or from a state that is brain dead, which covers pretty much all of the US.

Wed, 06/17/2015 - 00:49 | 6204540 Peak Finance
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Posting this because you used the Crco Dundee pic in the post.

That pic is of Paul Hogan (I think) which is the dude that played Croc Dundee in the movies.

The "REAL" corcodile Dundee was executed by the Australian Government in 1999 for refusing to comply with the firearms confiscation act.

Yes, the national icon of the country in the 80's, was executed by his own government. 

Can't make this shit up:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rod_Ansell

 

Wed, 06/17/2015 - 01:39 | 6204618 Flybyknight
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Executed? After he ambushed and killed a cop while psychotic  on amphetimines.

It doesn't help your cause to misrepresent events.

Wed, 06/17/2015 - 02:39 | 6204666 Peak Finance
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Executed? After he ambushed and killed a cop while psychotic  on amphetimines.

So claims the government that executed him? Their story has a lot of holes in it.

Wed, 06/17/2015 - 07:18 | 6204878 BeansMcGreens
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Wikipedia does have this bit of infomation also:

 

"it was later determined that Ansell had been raving about Freemasons prior to his death; he was distraught, apparently convinced that Freemasons had kidnapped his two sons and were now stalking him.''

Layers upon layers, nothing is quite as simple as one thinks.

Wed, 06/17/2015 - 11:14 | 6205536 DuneCreature
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Being one who does not follow much news in the entertainment industry is probably why I missed this story from 1980s and 90s. … Thanks for the Ansell link and interesting but sad tale, PF.

~ DC

Wed, 06/17/2015 - 01:47 | 6204626 Dexter Morgan
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Notice the title of the "Act":  Protecting the knife owners.  Gee, thanks for "allowing" me to have a knife!  And protecting me too, what a deal!

Wed, 06/17/2015 - 02:01 | 6204637 Trucker Glock
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Seems there is a reading comprehension deficiency here.

There are knives that are legal in some states but not others.  This bill says you can transport your knife that is legal in your state through a state where the knife is illegal.

I fail to see the stupidty of the bill or any conspiracy behind it.  The bill does not regulate knives.  It preempts state laws as they apply to out-of-state travelers. 

Wed, 06/17/2015 - 04:29 | 6204748 Keyboard Kommando
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Hey trucker, your parents were related, right?!?

Wed, 06/17/2015 - 11:53 | 6205738 Trucker Glock
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Very clever.  You make that one up yourself?

Wed, 06/17/2015 - 07:26 | 6204887 PleasedToMeatYou
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Yes, it is actually a valid use of the Interstate Commerce clause.  A rare occurance, indeed. 

Wed, 06/17/2015 - 02:47 | 6204669 wildbad
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they can have my knife when the wrench it from m cold dead hands....i hope they don't come for my wrenches now-

Wed, 06/17/2015 - 02:56 | 6204674 JoJoJo
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However Gay Blade marriage is accepted from states where Gay Blade marriage is legal into states where Gay Blade Marriage had previously been illegal. Until a Knight of the Long Knives.

Wed, 06/17/2015 - 07:23 | 6204883 PleasedToMeatYou
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Yes, that particular (if you'll pardon the phrase) "blowback" will be a bitch. 

...when, not if, it comes. 

Wed, 06/17/2015 - 03:00 | 6204677 Lin S
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Why worry about these BS laws anymore, at all? Illegal aliens don't worry, they just ignore laws and do whatever they please.

We should, too. I mean, the Social Contract is obviously dead now, so why not?

Wed, 06/17/2015 - 04:17 | 6204740 blindman
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the debt money system demands more,
if the private public denies the responsibility
the re-public will comply with the demand of
more essential moronic debt creation compliance
and miss-allocate the debt financing, just as
the structure of the design dictates.

Wed, 06/17/2015 - 04:22 | 6204744 RaceToTheBottom
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I only carry knives where the metal has been folded multiple times.  Therefore, I refer to them as historical pieces.  I hope I am safe.  Maybe refer to them as politician removal devices?

 

Wed, 06/17/2015 - 04:26 | 6204746 blindman
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it is all just one big parking lot.
.
One Big Parking Lot
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EZjrh5pOg0E

Wed, 06/17/2015 - 04:32 | 6204750 Condor96
Wed, 06/17/2015 - 05:17 | 6204780 general ambivalent
Wed, 06/17/2015 - 05:55 | 6204803 Yes We Can. But...
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Hammers are next.  Been following the McStay murder case in CA.  Family was bludgeoned with a 3-lb. mini-sledge, readily availble for under $10.  Hardware stores are brimming with potential murder weapons.

Wed, 06/17/2015 - 06:10 | 6204818 B2u
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Just like liquor stores, next they will begin to license hardward stores.  Home Depot, Lowe's, Ace...no more selling of any kind of weapons without a license....knifes, hammers, saws, nails, 2x4's....

Wed, 06/17/2015 - 06:10 | 6204819 B2u
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Just like liquor stores, next they will begin to license hardward stores.  Home Depot, Lowe's, Ace...no more selling of any kind of weapons without a license....knifes, hammers, saws, nails, 2x4's....

Wed, 06/17/2015 - 07:38 | 6204906 css1971
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It's worse than that.

Any stick of about 1.5kg (3lbs) swung at around 120kph (~90mph) will connect with an energy of around 1200 Joules when you smack someone with it. That's only a bit less than your average .223 round fired from an AR15.

Even thrown stones of 250grams (1/2 lb) moving at 110kph (70mph) will smack someone in the head with about the same energy (about 110 Joules) as a (almost any) pistol caliber round fired from a 2" barrel. It only takes an average of about 16 Joules of energy to break the skull.

Basically they have to ban anything which contains mass and which is moveable by a human. Or wrap everything moveable in foam.

Wed, 06/17/2015 - 07:51 | 6204928 headhunt
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If you can wail a 1/2 pound at 70 mph go try out for the major leagues - a multimillion contract awaits you!

Wed, 06/17/2015 - 07:59 | 6204940 arby63
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I suspect the idea was utilizing a "sling" and that works quite handily.

Wed, 06/17/2015 - 08:45 | 6205063 moonman
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or throwing it out of a moving vehicle

Wed, 06/17/2015 - 09:45 | 6205242 Bastiat
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1/2 pound might be a bit r heavy for a sling ... Unless you are the size of an N FL tackle.

Wed, 06/17/2015 - 06:07 | 6204816 MATA HAIRY
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that's not a noif....

Wed, 06/17/2015 - 07:05 | 6204861 Bill of Rights
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Regulate my balls on your chin...

Wed, 06/17/2015 - 07:27 | 6204891 css1971
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In the middle ages, the Germans had a similar problem with swords. Ordinary people were simply not allowed to carry them. Therefore, they didn't. They carried knives instead. Knives like these which conformed exactly to the regulations:

http://www.coldsteel.com/Product/88GMS/GROSSE_MESSER.aspx

 

Wed, 06/17/2015 - 07:45 | 6204917 One Eyed Jack
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Laws are only effective if eat majority complies ....just don't. There area not enogh olive, military and UN forces combined to arrest everyone

Wed, 06/17/2015 - 09:14 | 6205139 Drop out
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Next, they will ban speaking, writing, or documenting knives without permission. Then of course, making your own knives will be illegal weapons manufacturing. No sharp pencils either!

Wed, 06/17/2015 - 10:55 | 6205485 De minimus
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Yes! And I want to know when they will get around to registering, if not banning the most available and proven lethal weapon of all!

The common rock and or stone.

Shouldn't they at least have some sort of serial number on them for tracking purposes??

Wed, 06/17/2015 - 10:19 | 6205354 Coletrane
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your right to possess a knife does not come from govt.

 

 

wtf

Wed, 06/17/2015 - 10:41 | 6205434 messy
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if you trained in Filipino Kali (the knife part of it), then, you will understand why the corrupt are scared of it

Wed, 06/17/2015 - 10:50 | 6205463 gcjohns1971
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Government is insane.

Standard kitchen cutlery would qualify in just about every state as a weapon when carried.

So If I pick up a knive to carve the Thanksgiving Turkey, I am a criminal?????

Yes.

Not just the federal Government, but all the others at home and abroad are N-U-T-S!!!!

Wed, 06/17/2015 - 11:03 | 6205495 More Ammo
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The Second Amendment of the United States Constitution reads: "A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."

 

So if I carry a knife I am not armed? Would that be my pocket knife or my Katana?

 

So CONFUSED!

Wed, 06/17/2015 - 11:50 | 6205719 Duude
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The general category of knives, are legal in all 50 states, so we know this is about certain blades whether of length or switch blades which are illegal in some states and legal in others. But I don't really understand ZH interest in this one instance of government over-regulation? There are plenty of other more outrageous examples every day to choose from.

Thu, 06/18/2015 - 20:50 | 6212137 TheGreatRecovery
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I hope everyone realizes that if USA citizens were allowed their own Second Amendment right to carry knives onto the airplanes they travel in, 911 could not have occured, and any future repeat of 911 could not occur.  But I don't remember any member of Congress, any President or ex-President, any Secretary of Defense or FBI head or CIA head or TSA head, or any Supreme Court Justice ever having a moment of sufficient personal courage to publicly note this "slam dunk" fact.

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