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And This Is How NATO Member Turkey Celebrates Gay Rights
As America celebrates Gay Pride weekend with more exuberance than normal just 2 days after SCOTUS momentous decision, NATO ally Turkey appears not so keen for the lesbians, gays, bisexuals, and transgenders to walk the streets of Istanbul with rainbow flags...
Caught on tape...
#OnurYürüyü?ü #LGBT #missokak pic.twitter.com/tCjohriwiy
— Funda Eryi?it (@fundaeryigit) June 28, 2015
Mis Sokak'a polis sald?r?s? pic.twitter.com/oPqcyCRRl9
— Funda Eryi?it (@fundaeryigit) June 28, 2015
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It was all going well..
And then this...
Police Attack V2 #OnurYuruyusu #Pride #LoveWins #istanbulpride pic.twitter.com/3FoHJipWMD
— Yusuf Pi?kin (@YusufPiskin) June 28, 2015
Solidarity with #istanbulpride pic via @pinknews pic.twitter.com/bQCrceVI3t
— Stephanie Fleming (@Stephanenny) June 28, 2015
#MarriageWins in #US But #HumanRights lost in #Turkey. Police attacking #istanbulpride http://t.co/7vkpbNZeTT pic.twitter.com/SJdUp7FF3x
— Canan Coskan (@VarHicYok) June 28, 2015
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#LoveLosesInTurkey
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I don't know why the police don't just fire sperm at them turd burglars.
NATO is military alliance - yes? So what does it have to do with gay rights?
Actually this is one of reasons why Turkey cannot become EU member because of lack of understanding of civil rights.
But look what happens with gays in Russia under criminal fascist putin regime:
https://youtu.be/zMTbFSJ_Tr4
But violence in Russia is an issue in all levels. Hatred to everything is everywhere - even in families:
Every day 36,000 women in the Russian Federation are beaten by their husbands or partners. Every 40 minutes a woman is killed in domestic violence
https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=3&cad=rj...
Yea, Mr Putin actually expects everyone to act in a civilized manner,,, including ghey's. What a bastard!
Edit: and you sure have a warped view of what fascism is. If you live in the west just look around. If your nation isn't fascist it's socialist and their is a difference.
Under fascist putin regime anyone who doesn't line up to putin regime - is beaten up.
That is putin regime "civilized world"
https://youtu.be/B-8VgksGlpw
https://youtu.be/k5tIb7U2-Oc
https://youtu.be/eJFFNOFWRK8
And you hail from Russia!
or is it Belgum? The epicenter of E.U. Neo Fascism.
and we all know, if it's on youtube it's gospel truth.
Because of these nazis in Russia and hatred in Russia to everyone who thinks otherwise - Russia has one of the highest murder rate in world:
http://www.nationmaster.com/country-info/stats/Crime/Murder-rate#descrip...
Iceland: 0
Germany: 0.86
Belgium: 1.82
US: 5
Russia: 15
Chad: 19
Interesting. In that case, you should have the stats handy for IDF (hi tech) vs Palestinians (low tech).
[tick tock]
I don't support Israel, I don't support IDF. I suppoert Palestinians who are small nation which is under Israel occupation for 50 years.
But that doesn't change murder rate in Russia VS EU countries.
You are a gullible little shithead
he hails fron Baltic dreamland Latvia .
Hitler was right.
Who agreed with JC on this matter.
+1 Potato .
Ou my little slimy puppy - you have become so quiet and shy these days. Have you pissed on the floor again? Ahhh... thats a shame. You are so pathetic putin puppy...
Now, stand up and make some bark. Or you seem to me almost dead. Come one little feller.
You can do this?
BTW where is your friend stoogie?
He is beating your wife in a gay bar . Happy ?
That is not a bark but rather you pissed your self again... ahh... just too pathetic. But ok, at least you recognized that you both are putin puppies :D pathetic ones :D
your rant is worrysome basement dweller . are you off your meds or are there any meds even available inlatvia ? A nation where only trolls stays rest emigrate
I don't see Putin or his employees in any of these videos. You posted 2 music videos and something that happens in detroit every 15 minutes.
However in Kiev, they burn people alive who don't do what the banker controlled government wants and the governmnet openly identifies as NAZI supporting. Literally, NAZI from WW2.
I understand - you are putin regime troll - you are paid to spread these lies. But you have failed - again!
https://youtu.be/R3_hV3-Kp0Q
You are clearly not familiar with what Ukraine did during WW2. They had their own SS units. They throw parades for Bandera in the streets to this day.
Perhaps this video will enlighten you:
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=f41_1429903851
I know from my grandparents what they tel me that when germans invaded our country there was no starvation and rape of women but when russian red army invaded than everything was stolen there was nothing to eat and women got raped by red army. That is what I know from people who are still alive.
In my mind nazis and red army are same evil. But I also know that nazis told those nations who where before that invaded by russian red army that they must join german army in fight against red army and than will get their country free again. That is why many legions where created in Ukraine, Baltic states, etc. So people in those legions thought they are fighting to get their country back AND to revange russian red army. That is reality out side putin regime propaganda. That is information that you can still receive from people who are still alive.
Now - you where telling me something?
Yeah. I do have something for your NAZI supporting tard habits.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ws1ESTTDH9A
Fuck off with your lies. The people being murdered by the West are not going to stop. There is a wrong and a right. And you are on the wrong side.
I already proved that YOU are living under putin regime lies at this comment you got silent:
Ridiculous lie on Russian TV: a child was crucified in Ukraine.
Ukrainian “punishers” are fighting to get slaves, - new portion of bullshit from Russian TV.As you can see - above - putin regime propaganda invents lies materials in most bizzard way. No facts, no proof - nothing - simply to generate hatred against Ukranians and to manipulate with viewers. These are only some examples. But such are common everyday in Russia.
But if you understand russian you would understand this:
https://youtu.be/iOdZLc-ulHs
https://youtu.be/p4-__Sb4DIc
you cant fix the stupid .
No. You didn't prove anything. You made accusations that Russia was fascist. I posted an actual video of Kiev nationalists, working fo rthe government, crucifying a man and burning him. They did the same thing to a whole building full of people when Maidan was going on. Save your accusations against others until you have some evidence. And BTW, those videos don't support you at all. They are just Ukrainian propaganda videos. You literally posted a video of a Russian weatherman and claimed it was propaganda because his forecasts were whack. Do you know that? That is why I say Ukraine's news is insane.
You just confirmed that you are putin regime paid troll - and here is why.
You posted:
"The West's level of ignorant propaganda far surpasses Russia's, especially since Ukraine started. I don't speak great Russian. But I can speak enough to compare the news in both places every day. Ukraine's media is completely insane. The West repeats what they have to say without fact checking or anyone on the ground. Russia is mainly reporting events and providing video. I don't see everything. But from what I do see, the US media is completely untrustworthy and thinks its insults are somehow hot news stories...like your botox thing. Who gives a shit? Obama actually smokes crack."
I posted real evidence that what you wrote doesn't correspond to reality and than in fact it is russian putin regime who is misleading viewers with lies and propaganda materials.
I posted two materials from russian main stream media controlled by putin regime.
In first material there was lies about how a boy in east Ukraine was crucified - idiotic, but that is what putin regime propaganda "reported". No evidence, no proof, no video materials -nothing. Plain lies.
Second video was from same russian main stream media channel where was lies about Ukraine army - that they are fighting in order to get land and two slaves from east Ukraine. Again - no proof, no evidence, nothing. Only plain lies.
But you said: " The West repeats what they have to say without fact checking or anyone on the ground. Russia is mainly reporting events and providing video."
There where other materials where you could see how putin regime lies propaganda spins and twists reality with their lies in order to produce it's propaganda material. But you ignore it. Took some little shit out of context that had no meaning.
After I gave you access to information that proved you wrong but you ignore it - it has been proved that you know what is reality and truth - but you choose to ignore it in order to continue spread putin regime lies and mislead other readers. That proves you are putin regime paid troll - pathetic creature. And you know that.
P.S. Your master lies has been debunked already:
https://youtu.be/IZSp8Xu4giY
Fucktards like you believe all kinds of BS . Most of you knucledragging shitheads have never been outside of your COUNTY much less COUNTRY. You are brainwashed.
Of course, scum like yourself has no place in Russia, Reek! You are changing avatars like underpants (do you still shit in them; does your ass often betray you? Are you pissing yourself regularly too? ehehehehe), but stench of that Galician stupidity always remains!
Russia is not part of the West to promote Western "values," moron! Russia has its own culture, you stupid cunt! Write that down so you would have a chance of understanding that primal fact, imbecile!
It has to do turd .
This is a Russian pop singer. Tell me again about the anti-gayness? The truth is they don't care. Putin banned pedophillia and gay propaganda, like the garbage we are forced to see 24/7. He didn't ban gay, and it is not a crime.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0hu7O1sqogo
Tell me this is not the gayest dude on the planet. And if you are in doubt, he has more videos. His name is translated as "Sir Gay".
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/jan/09/transgender-people-russia-b...
"He didn't ban gay"
Now - how that look in real life? To ban gays? To kill them all? Of course he can't do that. But he using his controled media can produce hatred against gays that results in attacks in streets against gays.
That is not a ban on gay. That is a ban on mentally and phsyically disabled people driving cars. It doesn't say gay anywhere in it. And cutting your dick off? Well that is insane.
I already explained that putin regime can not ban gays - that would mean to kill them. Even putin regime can't affor that. I already explained how putin regime can attack and is attacking gays.
I think anyone can do what he wants with his own body - that is not messuar of insanity. Even putin can continue to play with botox on his body
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3042134/What-Putin-face-Russian-...
That doesn't make him insane.
But if you **** putins **** - you would swallow everything from putin regime. I guess...
The West's level of ignorant propaganda far surpasses Russia's, especially since Ukraine started. I don't speak great Russian. But I can speak enough to compare the news in both places every day. Ukraine's media is completely insane. The West repeats what they have to say without fact checking or anyone on the ground. Russia is mainly reporting events and providing video. I don't see everything. But from what I do see, the US media is completely untrustworthy and thinks its insults are somehow hot news stories...like your botox thing. Who gives a shit? Obama actually smokes crack.
Ridiculous lie on Russian TV: a child was crucified in Ukraine.
Ukrainian “punishers” are fighting to get slaves, - new portion of bullshit from Russian TV.As you can see - above - putin regime propaganda invents lies materials in most bizzard way. No facts, no proof - nothing - simply to generate hatred against Ukranians and to manipulate with viewers. These are only some examples. But such are common everyday in Russia.
But if you understand russian you would understand this:
https://youtu.be/iOdZLc-ulHs
https://youtu.be/p4-__Sb4DIc
Fuck off, you Galician scum! And don't forget to remember not to fantasize about Western "values" like celebration of faggotism, pedophia, paraphilia or any other degeneration in Russia or any part of Russian world, Reek! Write that down, scum!
Ha ha ha I love to see how your world crumbles when is faced with reality and facts I present :D
Nice! Keep that anger coming - make those little barks you do :D
Keep pushing your wagon
http://cs616330.vk.me/v616330074/ffe1/3W0eQs7XN6g.jpg
So you are living in the West, hm, scum? Murica or Canada, I would say. Those are your values, scum, not Russian or any other culture's but solely Western, and Russia, or any other land outside of NATO borders is not West, you stupid piece of trash! Do remember that well, Galician scum!
hyup its evident both usa and euro union is shaking on its weak foundations . You seek delusions and serve propaganda as truth . By your logic east should have disappeared by now Baltic scum shoeboys are such a drag .
There is more gay bashing and violence against gays in USA than in Russia.
I have been in both countries.
I actually have not seen gays in Russia - I guess they are afraid to come out. Will get beaten or killed.
https://youtu.be/Bgx6CWXbcTM
But I have seen gays in US.
there are all kinds of gay bars in Moscow and St.Pete. Its NOT illegal
What is illegal in Russia is to push gay lifestyle on children.
Same goddam law the UK had for years.
But watch the fucking AmeriNazi LGBT Nazis use it to demonize Russia.
"What is illegal in Russia is to push gay lifestyle on children."
https://youtu.be/RybNI0KB1bg
Ha ha ha ha you are pathetic one :D
Quit polluting these pages, scum! You were told that Russia is not part of West to uphold any Western principles, standards or "values," you imbecile! Celebrating faggotism will never be part of Russian culture, scum! Write that down, you stupid Galician piece of shit!
there are all kinds of gay bars in Moscow and St.Pete. Its NOT illegal
What is illegal in Russia is to push gay lifestyle on children.
Same goddam law the UK had for years.
But watch the fucking AmeriNazi LGBT Nazis use it to demonize Russia.
"I guess they are afraid to come out."
maybe they didn't think you were worth the effort. lol
what a dumb statement so naive you are.
I don't know? He looks like justin bieber, just with better makeup. And he does kiss the yukky girl at the end.
is our favorite Latvian back?
hey dude, your land is in deep doodoo.
i've read that some folks are planning a color revolution there.
in order to piss off the russians.
have you read about it?
more and more outdated nato hardware and troops coming in.
it's getting close to a critical mass. balling the baltics at a theater near you. coming soon.
do you really think that nato is going to save your ass?
the ussa is moving away from UE as is the EU.
no trade no visas no emigration no nothing only nazis.
how are your nazis doing? i understand they are getting stronger.
and not only that you are falling apart financially because of the sanctions.
free occupied latvia.
And that is all the smell you pathetic putin puppies can make up? Nothin more? Ahhh that is so cute when you try to make a stand :D
But failed again - big time! :D
https://youtu.be/smDnpVndnk8
https://youtu.be/TYIgwyML7WQ
https://youtu.be/HOTLkZCCqaI
gay social movements, rather than underlying sexual preference , are always , as are eunich lifestyles and feminazidom and radical 'equalitarianists' , and other anti-family lifestyles, encouraged by empires and superstates in the peak and waning periods of their power .
why? because divide and conquer is why. create separate classes of people who depend on state recognition for their power ( because the majority is generally supportive of majority family based lifestyle )
the fact that the western media is desperate to create new 'groups' liek transxuals for the purpose of distracting everyone into more divide and conquer nonsense has become utterly transparent.
of course the divide and conquer games wil always move on to some new game . i think now that the organized gay groups got what they want they wil have to figure out some new game of victim hood to reclaim their relevance. i've spoken to more than a few gays who find this whole thing totally ridiculous and don't identify with the organized gay population. it just goes to show you there are some thoughtful people of ALL creed color and sexuality. its tough to here their voice though in the worldwind of loud organized screaming. they will summarily be ignored by people on 'both sides' of the issue.
gay members of the the gay rights movement thik the gay rights movement is about gay people. it isn't. why? sexuality is a complete and utter fabrication. however, THE FAMILY as a majoritarian respected form of social organization most certainly is not a construct. having a pair of people raising a group of children is a real social unit institutions. it is not based on rights or some other such fabricated concept but on partners , like animals, working together to rear their young.
men can fuck each other, or cows, an women can be lesbians, all of that is 100% immaterial until you have a whole society pissing on each other for government jobs and guaranteed benefits as some sort of social contract between the ruled and the rulers mediated by govenrmnet.
Does the Dolezal Apply? I Identify as a Gay = $120,000/yr Affirmative Diversity Public Sector Job with full bennies and pension?
I know a girl who likes it up the butt. Does she get Buttfuckers Benefits alongside her pre-existing Pussy Privilege?
This cultural Marxist Oppression Olympics sure is tough to figure out. Maybe there's an Excel spreadsheet to show all the Tax Dollars I'm entitled to..
if the water cannons used massage oil or bubble bath this would be a celbration
Reports from Turkey say that government banned the pride parade with stated reason that it was disrespectful of the holy month of Ramadan.
Love has nothing to do with it and gay in no way describes what it is they do to each other or the infected society.
Hey cool...see the rainbow in the mist from the water cannon
lol. "Two low-level employees just got carried away with the Rainbow-Maker."
OTT
Of course, no out-cry from the 'gang', unless it were Russia doing this. BTW, it's been a few minutes since that ally of the US, Saudi Arabia, beheaded someone.
Is "America" REALLY celebrating "Gay Pride Weekend"? Are Photo Ops of the 2% by the liberal media a real indication of America?
There were acutally a couple of hot chicks in some of those photos, so perhaps it's not what it seems!!!!
I know some very hot lipstick lesbians..
Good, and since they like what you like, hope you got some finger-lickin' good action.
I love licking pussy but those lipstick lesbians don't want anyting to do with men sexually.
The gay bashers seem very insecure in their manhood. The next thing you know the gay basher will hate African American for the color of their skin or the Native Americans for having a different culture and language. You can see haters love for free speech and freedom of association, if I didn't know any better I would think they are insecure man-children who are the exceptional American Nazi.
Nice strawman you got there Moccasin.
Perhaps people hate others based on their propensity to commit crime, their complete lack of common courtesy and inabilty to conduct themselves in a civilized manner.
Nah - it's gotta be skin color.
Take a careful look at your statement, you are the one who replied with the stawman. I pointed out the obvious hypocrisy in the bigots attitude.
Gay basher, eh? I'm fine with that label. I'd have been using bullets, not water. A little because they're gay, bust mostly because I'm sick of them shoving this fucking shit down our throat, especially at taxpayer expense. Fuck off with your parades, my 3 and 1 year old kids don't need to grow up thinking that this is normal. I don't give a fuck what our governments say, Christ says it's wrong so I do as well.
"Christ says it's wrong so I do as well"
Explain in details.
The asshole makes up shit as he goes along.
Know thyself.
Lev 18:22-23 "You shall not lie with a male as one lies with a female; it is an abomination." Lev 20:13 "If there is a man who lies with a male as those who lie with a woman, both of them have committed a detestable act; they shall surely be put to death."
Detail, I suppose I should have stated
You said Christ.
That's Leviticus.
Leviticus has nothing to do with Christ's message.
Doubt me?
Try fucking reading it.
Here's some highlights for the low-lifes:
http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/lev/intro.html
Pack of idiots quoting some book like it settles things.
Chjrist wasn't even born then, so you are full of shit,
BTW, your fucking Buybull was written by Jews and THEY made up the story of Jesus to control stupid morons like you.
Grow a fucking brain and start using it. All you Buybull thumping morons are scared shitless to THINK and use REASON.
Chjrist wasn't even born then, so you are full of shit,
BTW, your fucking Buybull was written by Jews and THEY made up the story of Jesus to control stupid morons like you.
Grow a fucking brain and start using it. All you Buybull thumping morons are scared shitless to THINK and use REASON.
It is so true that those who talk the loudest and claim to know the most, usually know the least.
The Buybull in Leviticus also stated it is better to put your seed (sperm) into the belly of a whore than to jack off and spill it on the ground.
You want the exact verse??
Christ was the first cocksucker so show me where he said it was wrong, He and his 12 buttfucking buddies.
You are a bitter, sad little man. I really do pity you.
hahah, you are a moron who is brainwashed,. I pity you.
I have to say that you are NOT brainwashed because in order to be brainwashed, you've gotta have a brain.
I was sad and bitter before I burned my Buybull 39 years ago. (I am almost 70). I started to become happy and fortunate after i started using my brain.
You have a brain???
Christ was the first cocksucker so show me where he said it was wrong, He and his 12 buttfucking buddies.
One of the first gay pride parades was in Israel., the racist, genocidal state of thieves.
The people all you Christers suppport and send them billions every year.
So if one of your kids is born gay , will you kill him? Because your fairytale buddy Jesus said it was wrong?\
Hey shithead, we are still waiting for you to cite where Jayzus said it was wrong.
<crickets>
dupe
They like water sports. Don't judge the perverts just because they are doing their thing out in public where kids can see.
A growing number of Russian analysts, in Russia and abroad, have taken to calling Vladimir Putin's regime "fascist." And they don't use the term casually or as a form of opprobrium. They mean that Putin's Russia genuinely resembles Mussolini's Italy or Hitler's Germany.
One of the most recent examples was Mikhail Iampolski. According to the Russian-born NYU professor, "the appeal of quasi-fascist discourse was predictable" as the Russian economy tanked. Moscow rejects "[a]nything that could be seen as a sign of weakness or femininity," including liberalism and homosexuality, and then projects these qualities onto the enemy. Consequently, "Ukrainians are systematically accused of fascism, while Russian fascism is displaced by a false idealization of one's own image."
In March, Moscow commentator Yevgeni Ikhlov charged Putin with introducing a "left fascism" that, while "anti-market and quasi-collectivist," is "fascism because it is a form of a militant and most primitive philistinism." In January 2015, Andrei Zubov, fired from the Moscow State Institute of International Relations for opposing Putin's Ukraine policies, argued that Russia's President was building "a corporate state of a fascist type packaged in Soviet ideology, the ideology of Stalinism," resulting in a Russia that closely resembles Italian fascism with its "nationalism and union with the church." Moscow-based analyst Aleksei Shiropaiev claimed that Russia was moving toward fascism "at a galloping pace." Russian fascism "has become a FACT," "mass Russian consciousness remains absolutely imperialist and chauvinist," and most Russians have "ACCEPTED fascization and are ready to agree to even massive political repressions."
But are the analysts right? The evidence is compelling. Fascist regimes have charismatic dictators with hyper-masculine personality cults. These regimes generally evince a hyper-nationalist ethos, a cult of violence, mass mobilization of youth, high levels of repression, powerful propaganda machines, and imperialist projects. Fascist regimes are hugely popular—usually because the charismatic leader appeals to broad sectors of the population. Putin and his Russia fit the bill perfectly.
In calling Putin's Russia fascist, Russian critics have proven to be far bolder than their non-Russian counterparts in the West, who remain wary about the F-word. Some Westerners genuinely believe that Putin's brand of dictatorship differs from past fascist regimes. They often locate the differences in the historical conditions that gave rise to Hitler, Mussolini, and Putin, and not in the actual characteristics of their regimes. But doing so confuses the origins of similar things with their essential features. No one would say that America is not democratic because the origins of American democracy lay in revolution and not, as with Britain, in historical evolution.
But many Westerners fear the implications of calling a spade a spade. If Putin's Russia is fascist, then it is comparable to Hitler's Germany and Mussolini's Italy and, thus, certifiably evil. And that means that calls for understanding Putin amount to calls for understanding evil. So it's better to pretend that Russia isn't fascist. Hence the popularity of abstruse designations like managed democracy and sovereign democracy or terms—such as Putinism—that only state the obvious.
If the past is any guide to the future, Western skittishness about the F-word will evaporate. In the 1980s, Russian critics of the USSR described it as totalitarian, even as Western scholars shunned a term that had been vilified as anti-Communist. Western analysts feared its critical implications at a time of détente and preferred anodyne terms like authoritarian or non-democratic. Once Russians showed them that totalitarian was an accurate, and politically correct, designation for the Soviet regime, some Westerners got on the bandwagon. Those who did realized that the USSR's transition from totalitarianism to democracy was going to be far more difficult than a transition from authoritarianism to democracy. Unfortunately, the epiphany came too late to affect policies formulated in the end of history euphoria of the early 1990s.
A similar conceptual change is likely to take place with fascism. As the chorus of Russian voices using the F-word grows, Western policymakers who insist that we should listen to Putin and understand his point of view will have no choice but to listen to and understand his critics.
Calling Putin's system fascist will mark a conceptual breakthrough in Western attitudes—and perhaps policies—toward Russia. Viewing his state as evil does not necessitate rattling sabers. Soft power and diplomacy will remain no less important than hard power. But the conceptual shift would recognize that Putin and his regime are the problem, and that the problem will go away only when he and his regime go away. In a word, there are no quick fixes to the Putin problem. The West is in for a long, hard slog involving economic and military support for Ukraine and its neighbors, the containment of Russian imperialism, and support for anti-fascist elements within Russia. The good news is that, now as then, democracy will win.
you're entitled to your own opinion,
you aren't entitled to repeatedly troll on one topic regardless of the article's content.
Now, kindly go fuck yourself.
When he does it he feels he is reporting.
Public servicing, so to speak.
where did you steal this from.
it's not yours, most definitely.
but it does confirm your naivete. lol
Do you love drinking piss, Galician scum?
One of the first gay pride parades was in Israel., the racist, genocidal state of thieves.
The people all you Christers suppport and send them billions every year.
now, Dutchboy, Israel is g0d's chosen people, and if you read his, book, g0d's I mean, it is clear that Israel behaves perfectly in accordance with the old testament
Particularly with regard to the violence and absolutely shameless lying.
http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/why_israel_lies_20140803
http://original.antiwar.com/justin/2014/08/03/israel-genocide-and-the-lo...
Everyone wants to be part of something bigger. So it is with abolition, socialism, gay rights, tea party, etc. Wish people would just leave me the fuck alone.
oh man, don't get so self-righteous about it.
from what i've been hearing there are a number of states, like Louisiana and TX that are not going to comply.
There are also a lot of your many, many 'christian' churches that are not going to comply.
http://in.reuters.com/article/2015/06/27/usa-court-gaymarriage-reaction-...
Thinking 'outside the box', has it yet occurred to anyone else that...
TPTB are using/leveraging specific groups, who have historically been Outsiders and Powerless? By making them Insiders and Powerful (for a time), they can thus get them to act as their loyal minions, to change Laws and Rules, and otherwise do things that traditional groups would not.
Presto... the perfect Fools/Tools that a small elite can use to smash large groups and nations. Clever. Diabolically clever.
Why would gays want to marry? It will ony end in divorce and then they lose half their shit.
They will soon discover that there are 3 rings in marriage: engagement ring, wedding ring, suffering
I don't think they will lose half their shit. I suspect it will be rammed up even further up their.....
The US govt and neocons used the LGBT Nazis to demonize Russia before the Sochi Olympics./
Fact is, IT IS NOT ILLEGAL to be gay in Russia. Its total bullshit.
The Russian law states that it is illegal to teach the gay lifestyle to children.
Same fucking law that the UK had on the books for YEARS.
But you said that people are ... "born gay".
Now you say children are taught to be gay?
You're even more confused than I thought.
Or maybe that only happens in Russia?
Gays should be allowed to have fucked up marriages too.
I say bluntly as ever:
This business fagot and dyke (male and female gay) is a recent thing.
I'm 53 years old, did not find any guy in my nine years of basic school.
If there are any gay here, I respect but notice:
Cu and an exit orifice, not input.
hehe.
Fuck the politically correct.
I have said.
:-)
Question - do churches that refuse to marry gays now lose tax exempt status?
Interesting question - certainly someone will make that argument.
Now, fwiw, I don't think they should have tax exempt status in the first place.
I haven't generally been of the militant agnostic/atheist type, on the theory, if its not harming anyone, its none of my business what imaginary creature you beam your thoughts at.
But its more and more clear, or, rather, I see more and more, that bible-thumping idiots are large part of the problem.
If you think a supreme being wrote a book so full of internal inconsistencies, bad science, xenophobia, stupidity, violence, and demonstrably false history {cherry picking one or two things that may be 'right' does not save the body of work - a broken clock is right twice a day}.
... you are, in short, a moron.
and you should not be in a position to affect the lives of others through laws or violence because, even if you manage to be otherwise rational, you clearly lack the ability to ground your morals in the human, and in the real world.
They should pay taxes, especially the preachers who are fucking 99 percent charlatan assholes who have never had a real job. All they do is fill peoples empty heads with bulllshit.
It is unfortunate that your head is already so full of bullshit that not one more ounce could possibly fit. Your head is like 10 pounds of shit in a five pound bag.
If you wrote it to me, you're fucked.
I am a spiritualist, I believe in reincarnation.
hehe.
I didn't write it to you,
and the Lord tells me that in the long run,
we're both fucked.
For my part, everything OK. No hard feelings. :-)
That is an interesting question and I'm not saying I know the answer but my guess is that a church COULD refuse to marry gays because there are really two different kinds of marriage. One is the legal contract between two people that will affect the consequenses if one should die or in case of divorce etc. The other kind of marriage is the spritual bond between to two parties being married. A gay couple can achieve the legal contract through a judge, ship's captain, or justice of the peace even if a church refuses to initiate the spritual bond. I believe when the SCOTUS made its ruling, it was in reference to the legal form of marriage.
Is this what they mean by
"It's Raining Men?"
heh - just remembered this one from a few years back:
Gay-Pride Parade Sets Mainstream Acceptance Of Gays Back 50 Years
http://www.theonion.com/article/gay-pride-parade-sets-mainstream-accepta...
Those water cannons, though!
Think about it............ if you are a heterosexual male who really likes women and not just some male who likes to stick his dick into a woman, then would you be upset if your hot looking daughter preferred women to men?>
I certainly would understand if my daughter was lesbian.
I certainly support everyone's right to choose the gender of their sexual partner, even your daughter. Just don't try to tell me they were "born that way" because it just isn't true.
Again, you are so full of crap.
Again, I am only trying to use observation and science to reason with you but you are so full of anger and hatred that it is not possible.
So you "chose" to be straight, really?
Science strongly suggests the opposite of your thesis.
No, being "straight" is the default setting, if you will, being gay is a choice or preference that some may make, probably more often than not, a subconscious choice but still, a choice.
Keep in mind that being gay, while well within the bounds of nature, is totally contrary to the needs of evolution. That is, in order to work, evolution requires reproduction. No reproduction, no evolution and obviously, reproduction is not possible between two males or two females. That's science at a very basic level.
you missed the point - science strongly suggests that we do not "choose" our sexual orientation any more than we "choose" what food tastes we like.
Of course hetero is more normal.
It's fuzzier for women, though, most of whom do show arousal when presented images of masturbating women. You can argue that this is social-learned/culture, but why is the culture such that lesbians aren't subjected to nearly the derision men get?
Your notion that gay people choose the sex they are attracted to is absolutely false.
I'll note that even if they did {or if we allow that for some people who are in the middle of the continuum, and innately bisexual, they may choose one over the other} - there is still nothing innately wrong or immoral about it because it is a minority disposition.
I'm left handed.
Years ago, no doubt, some religious nut might have claimed I'm "choosing" to favor my left hand, or have some bullshit theory about why its 'unnatural, ergo wrong."
So I don't think choice or innate matters to the moral argument anyway, but your idea is simply unsupported by brain science and probably genetics {I defer on genetics, I'm confident on the neuro-behavioral}.
You can see differences in the brain between gay men and straights - granted, its a little tough to disprove the idea that the brain changed as a result of behavior, but it also seems very unlikely that changes to the corpus collosum and hypothalamus, for example, arise from liking pink and showtunes. It is much much more likely that the brain difference was innate.
Boys and girls have different brains as newborns. Tough to argue that's culture or "society" but anthropologists who know nothing of neuroscience still try to do so.
We are born with predetermined skin color, eye color, hair color sure, but we choose whether to wear our hair long or short, in bangs or pigtails. We are all born with a need to eat but whether we prefer spinach or beets, our burgers rare, medium, or well done, our french fries with or without ketchup and so on comes from culture and personal choice. We are born with a sex drive which is chemically derived, testosterone is chemical in nature, but how we manifest that sex drive, the maner in which we express it is our preference, our personal choice. Some have a preference for blonds, brunetts, or redheads, short, tall, fat or thin, same sex or opposite sex.
The choices we make are not necessarily conscious decisions but are more likely based on our life experiences, both good and bad, as we grow and develope and, in most cases, we may not even be aware that we are being shaped by them as they become a part of us so we tend to think we were "born that way".
Yes, boys and girls have different brains as newborns and yes, there are differences between the brains of adult straights and gays but nobody, NOBODY has been able to look at the brain of any newborn and say definitively that this person will grow up to be gay or lesbian. It is the gay-ness that changed the brain , not the other way around.
The fact of the matter is, as much as you want to believe that you were "born gay", there is absolutely no evidence, scientific or otherwise, that you can cite to even suggest that you were "born gay" any more than you were born wearing green pants and a yellow shirt.
If you at a young age hated ONIONS but people tried to make you like them, and it never worked. Are you saying you 'learned to hate onions''?
Every gay I know said they tried to be ''normal'' when young but just didn't like the opposite sex for sexual contact.
Yes, I am saying that. No one is born hating onions. If you hate onions, it is because you had some sort of unpleasant experience involving onions at a young age and it is the same with sexual preferences. If you developed a distaste for onions at a young age and people tried to force you to eat onions, you would hate them even more, would you not? It is the same.
Once people convince themselves that they hate onions (or a certain sexual preference) the more pressure is put on them to change, the more they will dig their feet in and resist. It is simply human nature and nothing more.
You don't seem to have much experience in the ''real world'
There are many men who marry and father children but later in life come out of the closet,.
Would you prefer they deceive their wives or be honest??
Women on the other hand have an easier time hiding their bisexuality because no one questions when your wife goes to lots of ''tea parties'' or like to be with the girls a lot.,
It makes no difference how many times you post the same message. No matter how many times, it is still not true, a fabrication of your own warped mind.
Fuck, I just realised what the Tea Party is all about in the USA. Thanks buddy.
There are many "tea parties" in the world.
You don't seem to have much experience in the ''real world'
There are many men who marry and father children but later in life come out of the closet,.
Would you prefer they deceive their wives or be honest??
Women on the other hand have an easier time hiding their bisexuality because no one questions when your wife goes to lots of ''tea parties'' or like to be with the girls a lot.,
You don't seem to have much experience in the ''real world'
There are many men who marry and father children but later in life come out of the closet,.
Would you prefer they deceive their wives or be honest??
Women on the other hand have an easier time hiding their bisexuality because no one questions when your wife goes to lots of ''tea parties'' or like to be with the girls a lot.,
Don't tell me, let me guess, your wife goes to a lot of tea parties. Am I right or am I right? Is that why you are so angry?
LOL, I am angry because imbeciles like you who claim to be educated do not know shit from shinola about the real world.
I have great sympathy for your wife, she must be a saint. I certainly don't blame her for going to so many "tea parties". God bless her!
Pat Robberson says if your kid is born gay , late term abortion after birth is blessed by Jayzus.
Pat Robberson says if your kid is born gay , late term abortion after birth is blessed by Jayzus.
Nobody is "born gay". That is a personal choice made later. Jesus has nothing to do with it, it's simply nature at work.
Total bullshit. suggest you get educated.
My education far exceeds yours my friend.
I highly doubt that, sonny.
I speak 4 languages fluently and have been to 73 countries and lived in 5 of them.
That is an education in the real world. not some college degree.
What a pity you have learned so little in all your travels. My own observation of you is that you do a lot of talking but have very little to say. During your travels, you might have done well to talk less and listen and see more. Wisdom does not always come with age, as you have proven in your many posts.
I have learned a lot in my travels. Evidently you haven't.
You keep harping on that ''gays are not born that way;
That is total bullshit.
Then I give the onion analogy and you totally fuck up that reasoning,
So if someone is born gay and tries to be straight and hates it and is attracted to the same sex, that means they were BORN that way.
I am finished with you Bozo. You don't know anything about the real world .,
I know enough about the real world to recognize that you are not even remotely connected to it. You're floating around somewhere in outer space and obviously haven't been in touch with the mother ship in a very, very long time.
You keep saying you are educated but your comments prove otherwise. TOTALLY.
It really amazes me how goddam ignorant some of you Americans are.
SMDH.
Why are you so filled with rage and hatred for Americans, for people of religion, for people of science, for just about everyone? I think you need to take a real good look at yourself sometime and ask yourself why. Lighten up dude. You are brimming over with vile hatred and it is obviously eating away at you all the way to the depths of your soul.
You claim to be "FREE" but you clearly are not, you are a slave to your own hatred and ignorance.
I hate idiocy and Americans spew it day and night 24/7. You being a prime example
You insist on proving my point time after time. Why?
hahaha ,. what a laugh, its YOU who is ignorant.
truth is Dutchboy had to leave the states cause nobody could stand him
Where he is at now nobody can understand him
They just nod there head and say Ja Ja and move on
Thank God for the many different languages
Love your comment 'who was that ma...' its so full of hate, while you lecture on hate. lol