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Donald Trump: A False Flag Candidate?
Submitted by Justin Raimondo via Antiwar.com,
That we have to take Donald Trump seriously confirms my longstanding prognosis that we’ve entered another dimension in which up is down, black is white, and reason is dethroned: in short, we’re living in BizarroWorld, and the landscape is not very inviting. Yet explore it I must, since the reality TV star and professional self-promoter is rising in the polls, and garnering an inordinate amount of media attention – and whether the latter is responsible for the former is something I’ll get into later, but for now let us focus on what practically no one else is paying much attention to, the Trumpian foreign policy.
Right off the bat, we run into trouble, however, since the signature sound-bites that characterize the Trump style don’t really qualify as anything close to a “policy.” Yet his various effusions on this topic do indeed translate into a mindset, which one might call blowhard-ism. And as much as it resembles the semi-coherent rantings of a drunk loudly pontificating in the dark recesses of some hotel bar at a Rotarians convention, it does reflect some “serious” trends to be found in the high-toned precincts of the foreign policy Establishment, not to mention among Trump’s fellow presidential aspirants in the GOP clown show.
On Iraq, The Donald makes much of his alleged opposition to the Iraq war – a position no one has documented to my satisfaction – but now that we’re back there, what’s Trump’s plan? "We shouldn’t have been there,” he opines, and yet “once we were there, we probably should have stayed.” While this may sound bafflingly counterintuitive, not to mention flat out contradictory, you have to remember two things: 1) In Bizarro World, contradictions do exist, A is B, and the sensible is the impossible, and 2) Similar things were said about the Vietnam war by politicians less obviously nutso than The Donald. As Murray Rothbard put it in a 1968 newspaper column he wrote for the Freedom Newspapers chain:
“A lot of people throughout the country are beginning to realize that getting into the Vietnam war was a disastrous mistake. In fact, hardly anyone makes so bold as to justify America’s entrance into, and generation of, that perpetual war. And so the last line of defense for the war’s proponents is: Well, maybe it was a mistake to get into the war, but now that we’re there, we’re committed, so we have to carry on.
“A curious argument. Usually, in life, if we find out that a course of action has been a mistake, we abandon that course and try something else. This is supposed to be the time-honored principle of ‘trial and error.’ Or if a business project or investment turns out to be an unprofitable venture, we abandon it and try investing elsewhere. Only in the Vietnam war do we suddenly find that, having launched a disaster, we are stuck with it forevermore and must continue to pour in blood and treasure until eternity.”
I’m editing a new collection of Rothbard’s work, entitled The Coming American Fascism and Other Essays, due out from the Ludwig von Mises Institute pretty soon, which is where I came upon this, and it got me to thinking: maybe it wasn’t the 9/11 terrorist attacks that tore a hole in the space-time continuum and blew us into Bizarro World – maybe it happened much earlier.
At any rate, The Donald’s bloviations about staying in Iraq are nothing new: the man is a veritable volcano of well-worn bromides which he keeps stored under his toupee and emits when the occasion calls for it. Which wouldn’t distinguish him from most other politicians except for the fact that Trump’s words might as well be coming out of the mouth of a twelve-year-old. For example, in spite of his alleged opposition to the Iraq war, in 2011 he told a reporter:
“I always heard that when we went into Iraq, we went in for the oil. I said, ‘Eh, that sounds smart.’"
Which is precisely what a somewhat disturbed adolescent is wont to do: grab someone else’s lunch money if he thinks he can get away with it. Elaborating on his larcenous plan in 2011, Trump averred:
“I very simply said that Iran is going to take over Iraq, and if that’s going to happen, we should just stay there and take the oil. They want the oil, and why should we? We de-neutered Iraq, Iran is going to walk in, take it over, take over the second largest oil fields in the world. That’s going to happen. That would mean that all of those soldiers that have died and been wounded and everything else would have died in vain – and I don’t want that to happen. I want their parents and their families to be proud.”
Just like the criminally-inclined parents of a juvenile delinquent would be proud of their son’s very first bank heist. As Rothbard was fond of saying: “Are we to be spared nothing?”
Trump’s foreign policy views belie his reputation as an unconventional politician who’s willing to say what others don’t dare even think to themselves. Indeed, he sounds like most of the other GOP presidential wannabes when it comes to the pending nuclear deal with Iran:
“Take a look at the deal [Obama’s] making with Iran. [If] he makes that deal, Israel maybe won’t exist very long. It’s a disaster. We have to protect Israel. And we won’t be using a man like Secretary Kerry that has absolutely no concept of negotiation, who’s making a horrible and laughable deal.”
Is Trump willing to go to war with Iran? He positively drools at the prospect:
“America’s primary goal with Iran must be to destroy its nuclear ambitions. Let me put them as plainly as I know how: Iran’s nuclear program must be stopped – by any and all means necessary. Period. We cannot allow this radical regime to acquire a nuclear weapon that they will either use or hand off to terrorists. Better now than later!”
And speaking of drooling, get this:
“Who else in public life has called for a preemptive strike on North Korea?”
I’m glad you asked. The answer is: Ashton Carter and William Perry, the former the current Secretary of Defense and the latter a former Secretary of Defense. In their jointly authored book, Carter and Perry claim then-President Bill Clinton was minutes away from authorizing just such a strike before Jimmy Carter called with the news that the North Koreans were willing to negotiate. And then there’s Rep. Peter King, another loudmouth New Yorker in the Trump mold, not to mention James Woolsey, Bill Clinton’s CIA Director, as well as this guy.
So you think Trump is crazy? He may well be, but he’s just reflecting the general lunacy that afflicts large portions of the political class in this country. Far from opposing the elites, Trump is merely echoing – often caricaturing – their looniest effusions.
Speaking of loony effusions, Bill Kristol has said that he’s sick of the “elite” media dissing Trump. Dan Quayle’s Brain got out his neocon playbook to declare he’s “anti-anti-Trump.” Which is interesting, since the last time a Republican anti-immigration, anti-free trade candidate arose, Kristol and his fellow neocons were in a lather of fear and loathing: that’s because Pat Buchanan was not only one of the dreaded “nativists,” he was also militantly anti-interventionist. Buchanan dared to call out Israel’s amen corner as the agitators for Gulf War I and its successor: for that, he was branded an “isolationist,” a label affixed to him also on account of his economic nostrums. Yet those same nostrums, when given a far cruder expression by Trump, evince a kind of admiration in the Grand Marshall of the laptop bombardiers. And the reason for this is Trump’s limning of the neocons’ penchant for unabashed militarism and grandiose imperialism: The Donald told a Phoenix audience over the weekend that “I’m the most militaristic person in this room.” And his prescription for what we ought to do to counter ISIS sounds like a Weekly Standard editorial:
“I say that you can defeat ISIS by taking their wealth. Take back the oil. Once you go over and take back that oil, they have nothing. You bomb the hell out of them, and then you encircle it, and then you go in. And you let Mobil go in, and you let our great oil companies go in. Once you take that oil, they have nothing left. I would hit them so hard. I would find you a proper general, I would find the Patton or MacArthur. I would hit them so hard your head would spin.”
Finally, one has to wonder about the provenance of the Trump phenomenon. Seemingly coming out of nowhere, it’s been attributed to a populist upsurge against the regnant elites, who are so out of touch with the people that they never saw what was coming. The media, we are told, are biased against Trump – this is one of The Donald’s chief complaints – and now The People are rising up against the Washington-New York know-it-alls with their “big words” and pretentious airs.
Yet this analysis is lacking in one key ingredient: the facts. For the reality is that the media, far from ignoring Trump, have lavished so much attention on him that he’s eating up coverage that would otherwise go to the rest of the crowded Republican field. And that may be a clue as to what’s really going on here….
The usual “mainstream” media tactics regarding a political outsider they hate is to ignore him or her: the example of Ron Paul should suffice to make this point. Indeed, Jon Stewart pointed this out in a memorable “Daily Show” segment, and it took Paul three runs for the White House to get their attention. Trump has suffered no such fate: quite the opposite, in fact. The Donald’s every demagogic pronouncement is faithfully recorded and broadcast far and wide. Over a hundred reporters crowded into his latest appearances in Las Vegas and Phoenix. Jeb Bush, for all the many millions stuffed into his campaign coffers, couldn’t buy that kind of exposure.
This gift to the Trump campaign is being celebrated by Democratic politicos and consultants as if it were manna from heaven. The Republican “brand,” they aver, is being sullied beyond redemption, and they’re watching this unanticipated and providential miracle from the peanut gallery with unalloyed glee.
And yet … just how unanticipated is it?
As San Francisco Chronicle columnist Debra Saunders points out, Trump is not really any kind of Republican, and, what’s more, his links to the Clintons are well-documented and close:
“In 1987, Trump registered as a Republican in New York. But in 1999, he registered with the Independence Party. In 2001, he registered as a Democrat. In 2009 he was back in with the GOP.
“Hillary Rodham Clinton sat in the front row at Trump’s 2005 wedding with Melania Knauss.
“According to Politico, Trump has donated more than $100,000 to the Clinton Foundation.
“In the 2006 cycle, Trump donated $5,000 to the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee, $20,000 to the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee, but only $1,000 to the National Republican Senatorial Committee.
“When Trump flirted with running for president in 2012, CNN reported he had given $541,650 to federal Democratic candidates and committees since 1990 – more than the $429,450 he contributed to GOP candidates and committees.”
National Review‘s Jonah Goldberg rips the veil off Trump’s alleged nativism in a by turns anguished-and-amused plea to his fellow conservatives not to be taken in by The Donald’s act:
“You seem to think he’s an immigration hardliner, and he’s certainly pretending to be. But why can’t you see through it? He condemned Mitt Romney as an immigration hardliner in 2012 and favored comprehensive immigration reform. He told Bill O’Reilly he was in favor of a ‘path to citizenship’ for 30 million illegal immigrants:
“Trump: ‘You have to give them a path. You have 20 million, 30 million, nobody knows what it is. It used to be 11 million. Now, today I hear it’s 11, but I don’t think it’s 11. I actually heard you probably have 30 million. You have to give them a path, and you have to make it possible for them to succeed. You have to do that.’
“Question: Just how many rapists and drug dealers did Donald Trump want to give green cards to?”
Trump has been playing the media with his supposed presidential ambitions for years, but it was clear then that it was just The Donald doing what he does best – promoting himself. So why now has he suddenly turned “serious”? I give that word scare quotes because 1) Serious is not a word one associates with a clown, and 2) It’s not at all clear that, for all his megalomania, he really thinks he can win the White House. He may be a lunatic but he’s far from stupid.
And so the question jumps out at us: Why now?
Although I have no concrete proof of my theory, there’s plenty of circumstantial evidence. His ties to the Clintons, his past pronouncements which are in such blatant contradiction to his current fulminations, and the cries of joy from the Clintonian gallery and the media (or do I repeat myself) all point to a single conclusion: the Trump campaign is a Democratic wrecking operation aimed straight at the GOP’s base.
Donald Trump is a false-flag candidate. It’s all an act, one that benefits his good friend Hillary Clinton and the Democratic party that, until recently, counted the reality show star among its adherents. Indeed, Trump’s pronouncements – the open racism, the demagogic appeals, the faux-populist rhetoric – sound like something out of a Democratic political consultant’s imagination, a caricature of conservatism as performed by a master actor.
Now I realize this is a “conspiracy theory,” and, as we all know, there are no conspiracies in politics. In that noble profession, everything is completely aboveboard and on the level – right?
Like hell it is.
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For example, in spite of his alleged opposition to the Iraq war, in 2011 he told a reporter:
Which is precisely what a somewhat disturbed adolescent is wont to do: grab someone else’s lunch money if he thinks he can get away with it. Elaborating on his larcenous plan in 2011, Trump averred:
The fact that this guy (the author - not Trump) thinks military action is for any other reason other than self interest is comical. Whether it be resources, strategic land positions, or wealth, war is and has always been about everything other than "doing what's right".
Submitted by Justin Raimondo via Antiwar.com
Yeah this guy clearly knows nothing about war. And you've clearly never read anything he's written.
"Start using the resources of the federal government to carry out its one-and-only legitimate function: securing and protecting our borders." -- Justin Raimondo
http://original.antiwar.com/justin/2010/04/27/south-of-the-border/
The point of life is to care for your children, and kill everyone elses children. At least it is for lions, and they are only mammals!
His plane is nicer than Air Force one, be a step down for him
Hard to beat a 747.
Plus you're talking Hair Force One.
The Donald is running because he thinks he can win. Will he play The American Flag? Absolutlely.
Something other candidates will find hard to do.
I think this whole "Mexican Thing" was a STUNT to attract attention...and indeed "worked like a charm." Jeb Bush said and I quote "I take that personally"...which is a total rookie political mistake in my view and exactly what Donald Trump wanted to hear.
We'll see if he can translate his poll numbers into actual votes.
Running for President is very hard work.
Obviously the media is not his friend.
He need not worry about attacks from fellow Republicans...and indeed is rightfully welcoming them.
He's got a hot wife too.
Ironic he would be called a "demogauge." That sounds like a compliment for a guy who has never run for public office before.
Certainly Jeb Bush has suddenly raised a MASSIVE amount of money...so somebody is afraid the Trumpster might run away with the nomination.
"Run to the Right in the Primary and to the Center in the General"'I think is the rule.
Whoever he has working for him certainly seems well qualified.
Would be an odd pick for a PTB "Manchurian Candidate."
Everyone already knows the guy...
"Certainly Jeb Bush has suddenly raised a MASSIVE amount of money...so somebody is afraid the Trumpster might run away with the nomination."
Nominations are party controlled events. The Rep party changed the primary rules after the last election because they were afraid of an outsider getting in, like Reagan did in 1980. Santorum gave them a scare, I think. Mainly because Romney was so weak. They wanted to sew it up for Bush, early.
Santorum wasn't declared winner in Iowa until 17 days after Romney was given 17 days of free winner publicity. Then the Michigan GOP party central committee changed the delegate allocation rules AFTER the primary, stealing the Santorum win and giving it to Romney.
Donald Rump will make Jeb 'the mass murderer' Bush look moderate in comparison, and Hillary Clitoris will be able to swing her dick in his face when it comes time to debate foreign policy. Rump is a two bit wannabe faux politician. I agree that he is a false flag event.
The real race is between Bush & Clitoris, but Bush will take it in the last leg of the race due to the MIC need to go to war so that they remain significant in American popular fascist/corporatist culture.
Hillary's Clitoris will then retire with Bill so they can smoke cigars and put their tired feet up to count their millions.
I'm more interested to see if Guzman will try and carry through with his threat. I think he will as even narcos are patriotic in Mexico.
I wonder what will happen, will Trump find out the hard way or will they drone Guzman first?
Maybe Trump is jealous as Guzman may have more cash laying around than he does. :)
Like a famous Mexican drug lord threatening Trump does not make his point.
I would say Guzman is at least as great a risk of being "hit" by Trump than the other way around.
"the real race"?
SHILL ALERT
So, exactly how many bankruptcies is his name tied to?
4 corporate bankruptcies. Don't hate the player, hate the game.
"I will revise the Bankruptcy Code" will certainly win a lot of votes.
Why haven't the Obama's of all folks let alone the Democratic Party not done that?
Oh I forgot...they're all Lawyers.
They only know how to profit AFTER the business is run into the ground.
Hey...it justs shows he *knows business*.
/s
I watched the video of his Phoenix appearance on 7/11/15. Trump says what he believes. Yes, he is a self-promoter and a prima donna. But listening to him hammer Jeb and Hillary with equal zeal, and calling the press liars and bad people was priceless and refreshing. He also called out Univision, Terry Lundgren, NBC, Mexico, Ford Motor Company, Obama, John Kerry, illegal immigrant murderers and slashed away at many sacred cows. The campaign will be better with him in the race. At least the Republican debates will be interesting. He will do better than anyone expects because Americans are sick of lying, evasive politicians and he can't be painted with that brush. Just my opinion.
Bravo FR!
Good observations here. Trump is building some momentum. The fact that the MSM is targeting him for attacks now is evidence of this. If he were truly a clown with no competence and no public following, the MSM would simply ignore him. If he manages to do well in a GOP debate (or two), look for the MSM to get really ugly. No telling what they might try to dig up on him.
The MSM doesn't even need to dig up anything on the people they choose to destroy. They just make shit up. I had no real desire for Romney to be president, but for the love of all that is good, the MSM went full freaking retard trying to tarnish a total square. It was unbelievable. Shoot the antenna. Shoot the antenna! The buildings that house the CNN, MSNBC, FOX, CBS, NBC, and ABC media centers should be surrounded 24 hrs a day. The media NEED TO BE DESTROYED.
The worst episode I personally remember is right after Pat Buchanan won the GOP New Hampshire Primary in 1996. That was a big deal, and the MSM set out to crucify him. It was u-g-l-y.
Sign me up for the extended warranty, too. Yea, I really want that extended warranty. A+
The banking mafia own the electoral system* so in the end it doesn't matter but Trump annoys the lying media filth so while it lasts go Trump!
(*at least at the pres level)
He was a target of the Banking Cabal in the 80's.
Yes ...he lived to tell about it.
BARELY...
Except for Trump and Rand Paul, all of the other candidates are 'false hope' candidates. They talk a good talk, but the other candidates are all bought and paid for by big money. They are not the solution - they are the problem.
Trump is a SHOWBOATING narcissist.
Rand Paul is absolutely UNTRUSTWORTHY as HE SOLD HIS OWN FATHER DOWN THE RIVER and THREW HIM UNDER THE BUS.
There IS NO HOPE.
No politician is going to save this. It is beyond all help. It is OVER.
Actually you will know it in September. It is actually laughable and moot..
Which tool of the NWO do you predict will win? We WILL have a 45th President, so who is the "chosen one"?
If we do not disintegrate by Thermonuclear War before then...
eh...Goldman Sachs.
Who cares about the caraciture of the spokesman anyway?
A Real Flag Candidate is FAR more dangerous than a False Flag one.
Find it particularly odd that politicians would attack the Confederate Flag as well. "Just who's Flag do you like?" comes to mind if you don't like that one.
Certainly not the "American Flag"...
The Rand Paul that endorsed Mitch McConnell and publicly campaigned for this Pig, one of the most corrupt GOProgs, who btw is the GOP leader of the Senate?
Unlike, Senator Cruz who not only didn't campaign for, but publicly refused to endorse the number two leader in the GOP in the Senate (John Cornyn, R-TX) .
Cruz has shown balls repeatedly and Rand Paul in a prison bitch. BTW, I gave Paul's campaign money when McConnell was doing everything in his power to have Paul crushed in 2010.
Are you in our hemisphere - you rant so agrresive and violent. Anyway, Cruz is unelectable, as is Christy, Carson, and Rand.
It is what is is man - sorry!
I'm honered - its like a teenage moment!
Are you a visiting prison bitch or do you realize this is ZH, Fight Club? Besides, your typical dempublican load lapping "Cruz is unelectable," is well just pathetic. Should I guess: Jeb is electable?
Dude, you're certifiably nuts if you think Cruz can win the presidency - Ted (teddy bear) has a better shot. Plus he`s furry and cute - much more presidential looking.... JUST saying bro.....
The Republican Party is a false flag party. So is the Democratic Party. They both just say whatever they need to in order to get elected and then proceed to do the bidding of their bankster and oligarch masters.
Watch the Trump Video from Phoenix. I think you'll find it refreshing, but a little long.
does any of this matter?
Yes, it does.
All anyone has to know is if the candidate has kissed Sheldon Adelson jew's ring, they are False Flag.
The progressive criminals and their drones are getting worried about Trump. Watch for many more attacks like this article.
Progressives must have a full fledged criminal that lies to their faces, steals from them and kills them. Only then will they be happy.
The progressive stupid, it burns.
Grimaldus
Nobody is worried about Trump, he is the back up band, the entertainment, the comedian before the big show and it is a big show. We should call it what it is, a charade. Even for the actors who get to the main stage, the sophomoric popularity contest that is littered with glittering generalities and no substance, it is not a democracy. Neither one of the losers or the so called winner will change anything as the empire enters its twilight and terminal phase. The oligarchs will make all the decision, the real American government is unelected by the people, it is the Federal Reserve, itself is only a puppet of those who control it. Yes, elections are collective insanity and I will watch from the sidelines hoping the zombies who are the true believers awaken. Until then on with the show, the idiocracy is the only game in town until the awakening. USSA #1 USSA #1
Was this article authored by someone who's on the inside (NWO) or was instructed to write this by one of the puppet masters?
If anyone has any questions about Americas well being, Trump is just more proof that our nation is an idiocracy.
You presented no arguments that counter what you call Trump's 'lunatic 12yr old bloviations'. No, Iran should not be allowed to develop a nuclear weapon; how can you argue against that? A pre-emptive strike against N. Korea... may be needed. And at least he says SOMETHING resembling a plan to counter ISIS, instead of calling them the "JV Team" and watching them take over the middle east while blowing up children and cuttting off heads!
Trump is not against immigration... he is against ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION!! You progressives can't seem to get this thru the brain mush.
So he gave some money to the Clintons and some Dems.? Big deal, he liked to go to parties, hob nob, drink and rub shoulders. 450,000 over 22yrs?? That's nothing!!
Trump is connecting because he's not trying to pander and appeal to EVERYONE, he's not a TELEPROMPTER ROBOT and he can think on his feet!
Super weak article
This is a George Soros propaganda letter to steer the sheep to vote Cankles 2016. Everyone gets a scooby-doo treat.
When does the shooting begin?
Trump won't get in as Obama is not leaving! Read numerous prophecies about Obama... they have been spot on up until now! http://revelation12.ca
Shooting of woman on San Francisco Pier that Trump made national news out of:
Cops say the Mexican illegal found his gun wrapped in a T-Shirt in a park.
They said it had been stolen from a federal agent in a car breakin. A loaded gun left in the car of a BLM agent.
You know Bureau of Land Management, as in the Bundy Ranch guys.
So many wild lands in San Francisco to check on.
Trump cannot be worse than the other zio candidates.... Except for Rand Paul, but he would cave
any one of them would fold like a cheap suit.
It's theater. "Skim milk masquerades as cream," Gilbert & Sullivan. The actors are all wearing masks. Trump promises to be the great negotiator. Trump picks the low hanging fruit of illegals' crime. Multiple candidates split the vote to allow Bush to exploit the American voting stupidity of not having run-off elections. Many of the candidates expect to be rewarded for their efforts to split the Bush opposition.
To trust is to not think. Will Trump align with Adelson? Con men tell you what you want to hear. Con men praise your intellect. Con men offer hope and relief. The art of the deal is to believe nothing and watch where they want to take you. And say NO.
OK, Trump. What's your offer and all its details in writing?
I have said all along Trump is a Judas Goat, laeding us to the slaughter.
9 out of 10 true conservatives support Ted Cruz for President.
Ted Cruz has received money to sponsor his Central Banking scripted cause. Trump uses his own money to fund his mind.
The two (2) are of mutual insignificance.
Psychopaths among each other.
Make no mistake, Trump ain't running. Yeah, of course he would claim otherwise, so lets look at the evidence. Trump only supported Democrats up till 2008, and his own family are all confirmed democrats, but with the 2008 elections he suddenly running as a Republican? Well, he dropped out after again getting a surge of support putting him in 2nd place. However, Trump never went on the campaign trail and he never sought political donations. What's similar now? He's in 2nd place, he hadn't even gone outside of Manhattan till he made a trip to AZ this past weekend. For the most part, he hasn't been campaigning and even told everyone that he would be self-funding? Of course, if he was a serious candidate, he could self-fund, but no one has every told everyone up front they need not bother sending in donations. I expect its because he knows this is just Donald promoting Donald. He's not a serious candidate. But let's look at his original speech when he declared his candidacy. What can we learn from that? Its very apparent he didn't turn to any political consultant for that speech. it lacked any organization. Trump basically just rambled for 30 minutes touching on hot button topics that everyone else is reticent to jump on. The other candidates are treading lightly, most likely till they can get a better feel for the will of the electorate. In orther words, they're serious candidates who want to win. Trump could care less.
He's not a Democrat dude, he may have made donations but it was for the price of admission to hop nob (rub shoulders) they ALL do it; pennies to him.
He is polling at #1
he's not "rambling"... that's called thinking and speaking on your feet. Something NONE of these teleprompter robot politicians can do.
"get a better feel for the the will of the electorate" THAT IS THE PROBLEM!
If the candidates don't have a feel for their electorate they shouldn't be running for office. Join us here and bloviate away, for all the good it does.
From the Picture, it looks like Trumpy has done to Hillary in mitures what Billy hasn't been able to do for years.
Get her Panties wet.
I represent the True Left.
Hillary is constructed by the billionaires. The total neoliberal austerity package. Plus, of course WW-III.
I will not vote for a Bush, a Clinton, or a Sanders (the war-hog).
I would actually vote for Donald Trump. He must realize that WW-III would be very bad for business.
Just as long as you realize that Mr. Trump's political history shows him to be a Progressive. I did contribute 25 bucks last week to his campaign, just because he so upset the tender sensibilities of so many Merikan Pigiticians and their media fluffers.
I have been witness to twelve presidential election cycles and have heard the same arguments and comments each time.
Of those twelve cycles how many actually had a positive impact on the nation and the people?
0
Yes, but the better question is which of them has had an effect? I think Obama will leave a pretty ugly mark, even worse than most of the other recent picks.
Just like 7 years ago, Trump is a TOTALLY FAKE candidate. His role is the RODEO CLOWN: get the masses riled up so they actually vote, cause this evil fake democracy NEEDS the ritual of validation. Its power feeds on YOUR vote to get the legitimacy it desperately needs BUT DOES NOT DESERVE.
So now trump pisses off latinos-millions will now vote. Score! So trump riles up the angry whites-again increased levels of voting.
He's just warming up the audience-he will duck out after much drama and endorse whichever establishment shithead can raise the most money.
Duck out = disillusioned whites not voting+energized latinos voting for Hillary to win.
Ross Perot was not likeable .... Trump is so damn likeable (good campaign slogan) .... he would hurt Hildebeast .... who is the least likeable of all candidates .... so, I reject that Trump is a false flag .... he wouldn't lend himself to such a sucky, sub-servient role .... this guy has an ego .... and unlike Perot and Hildebeast .... he has PERSONALITY !
Goes deeper than being a "false-flag" candidate, but also enables the neo-cons to introduce some of their platform and agenda via someone else.
Evil is brilliant, just not smart enough to avoid the guillotines.
Liberty is a demand. Tyranny is submission.
Yeah, and I'm the King of Prussia.
The Republican candidates are mostly parodies of human adult "conservatives," and nothing Trump says is out of whack with what they're saying, so... no. He's a Republican, in the current understanding of what one is.
I think he's the real deal and this false flag candidate business is BS. This is the mind game chosen by the Bilderbergers, to be played on the American people to make sure Hillary, the brain damaged dimintia patient wins by putting this psychological warefare play in the Amercan psyche. I'm suporting Trump.... A REAL AMERICAN, not a globalist, not a man without a nation and without a heart and soul. DON"T FALL FOR THIS BS LINE.... He's not in this to throw it. Both sides are so freaked out by him I believe he's the real deal. "America Great Again" TRUMP FOR PRESIDENT!
TouchDown (TD) - this is an excellent piece of journalism!
:-)
What's so funny is that you'll never understand that the mature folks who visit ZH do not see green or red, or up and down for that matter. They see in black and white (like a newspaper back in the day of honesty) - they're critical thinkers.
"They that control the information control the people".
he is going to crash and burn just like his airline, its to late for any of the bozos running to change anything
IMO anything other than Ron(Rand) Paul have a very low probability to be "real deal". Any reason why you wouldnt vote for those? They are as close to real deal as it get I say.
fuck yeah, he was pro banker and car company bailouts. His middle name should be Oboclintush
"....Trump’s alleged nativism?" Yes, Trump is a PRog, and the Author, a Hugo Chavez butt buddy...loves swilling marxist's loads.
TRUMP ROCKS!
The American people must be happy with the way their country is being ' managed ' . Enjoy the show.
LOL, I'm pretty sure the author of this article is a fucking beaner.
Donald trump is elite period. how did he make his money, you think they allow you to make money and keep it, if you are not one of them, Americans should not be fooled again, though i still contend there won't be any election becoz obama will not be leaving office!
For a few days I was smitten with Trump and would have voted him in as President. Then I came to my senses. What I had been starving for is a candidate who would attack the Washington establishment stupidity of policy. He did that and heightened my interest.
When I reexamined him as this article has done I realized he was a false flag. The media hardly touched his statements. In the past liberals would have destroyed any candidate saying the things he did. That’s what gave it away. He is now dead meat from my view…
I'll write him in as a protest vote, or Rand Paul, because Paul won't get the nomination, either.
No real choices.
Why waste your time?
ZH has been coopted by the Socialist Neocon Republican Party in the comments section.
What used to be fresh anarchocapitalism has now degenerated into Socialist drivel.
"Hey...My pock for psychopath is better than yours. He does not wear a rug." or some such shit.
It is fucking laughable.
If there is no choice then why bother making one?
Choose not evil but choose that which is good.
Anarchocapitalism does not work without a paid army keeping the markets, farms, factories and roads safe from the ISIS-FARC-PKK-ETA groups that come out of the woodwork without fail the second they sense a weak goverment. And then they redraw borders under fire and become governments.
Governments will never dissappear as it takes a government to erase another government.
Want proof? There are no territories without governments. The closest thing would be Islamic state (a government) and the plethora of territories held by different armed factions at gunpoint behaving as de facto government (as in all feuds in Somalia and some parts of latin america).
Trimp is pure comedy genius in his recent political interviews.
LOVE his subtle and not so subtle putdowns.
Watch the one with Katy Kur (CNN).
Only brainwashed morons think that voting does anything in the fascist/Nazi US corporation state. Look at the mofos running, Ones a Rockefeller bastard, the others the Bush Narco kingpin clan and you have trump who's a total looser on the political arena. The only people more stupid and moronic are the IDIOTS who think their vote counts for anything. Hasn't for decades. Greece is also a perfect example of how the democratic process is nothing but show (toothless).
Atleast the socialist states put it in your face instead of the shame charade and waste tax payers money in putting up a BS show.
A Waddle Down Memory Lane with Donald
There' one thing I'll say about the "buffouant"ed bombastic bloviator from the Borough (of Queens): he sure knows what side his New York bagel is buttered on. And - if he's throwing megabucks at the Clinton "Foundation" - you know that he knows it ain't Joe 6 doing the buttering!
True to the "Art Of The Steal", Trump started off early, scamming the then Equitable LIfe into financing the entirety of his gaudy, gold-plated, grotto to glitz & glamor Trump Tower on 5th Ave. The dull, dumb - wannabe ritzy - suits at Equitable didnt know wtf had hit then when "Donny" stuck 'em with the whole tab - they couldnt look like the fools they were - so they ate it. How do I know? Maybe I was there.
So that's how the "Legend" got started in Manhattan - and he's been parleying bthe same schtick since.
"But that was 35 years ago - and The Donald has proven himself a brilliant businessman since!" - I hear you say. Oh yeah? Then you shoulda been around to ask those Windows & Orphans - holding holding his can't-possibly-fail defaulted casino bonds - how they felt.
And, anyway, what kinda dumb schmuck builds !!!3!!! casinos NEXT TO EACH OTHER - so they self-cannibalise - on the Atlantic City Strip???
This is not to say that Donny wouldn't be a great guy to have a few beers (or Trump Vodka) - and a whole barrel of belly laughs - with.... just so long as you don't mind being stuck with the tab at the end of the night ;)
Donny, a word of advice: Make kissy-face with our South Of The Border Brethren & stick to the All Sizzle, No Substance Beauty Pageant biz - or, failing that, yeah... run for President.
Everyone's who is crying "dictator" but is still pretending this is all going to work out fine is a FRAUD.
Everyone avoiding the lies about HATE the left is telling over and over is a FRAUD.
WITHOUT RULE OF LAW WE HAVE NOTHING. WE MUST RESTORE RULE OF LAW.
https://www.facebook.com/conventionofstates?fref=ts
All the Democrat mouthpieces are pushing the line that Trump used to be a Democrat and donated to Democrats.
Why would they be doing so if Trump was a "false flag" candidate? They would in fact be downplaying it.
The only reason for Democrats to be pushing this line is because they know he is not a Democrat and he is a treat to them and Clinton.
They tend not to mention that he donated to Republicans as well as Democrats or that if you want to do serious business in Democrat dominated cities like NYC and Chicago, which are natural locations for Trump's business activities, you have to payoff the Democrat capos. It's extortion and it is reality. Don't donate, don't get approval for developments.
Trump is in this to win. He doen't need more money. In fact by antagonising the Washington class in both parties he has exposed himself to their retribution unless he wins. He has put more on the line than any other candidate.
It is worth listening to his Q&A session with the Chicago Tribune and his subsequent speech to the Chicago Club (both on YouTube). They aren't doctored by the MSM, so you get the full flow of his comments.
From those sessions, it is clear that while he wants to stop the invasion of illegals, that is not his biggest issue. He is focused on the loss of quality jobs in the US, mainly exported to other countries through deals with China and other Asian countries as well as NAFTA. He thinks that those who have represented the US on such deals have been lousy negotiators and claims he would do a better job and roll back those lousy deals. Whether he will or he won't, his starting point about the loss of quality jobs is hard to dispute, and that the US continues to export such jobs. It is also probably a fair claim on his part that he is a much better negotiator (and knows who to use as good negotiators) than anyone in the US presidency in recent memory.
He also makes the point that you can't have a strong military without being economically strong, which is surely right, at least over the long term. But he is not gung ho to get involved in every spot around the world. He says the US should not be leading western involvement in Ukraine, that it is a matter for Germany and Europe to pursue if they want. He says the US could back them up if Europe wants support but the matter is basically one for them.
He claims to have been opposed to GWB's intervention in Iraq on the grounds that Iraq and Iran were countervailing powers and destroying the Iraqi government was going to turn Iran loose. But also that once the US got into Iraq it should not have exited without at least retaining control of oil production.
Re ISIS, his position is pretty simply, take away their money by destroying their oil production, leaving them to fight other locals without the benefit of a lot of money. Incidentally, he says Iraq no longer exists as a country, it is just a territory with competing groups. Again clearly a statement of reality that Washington won't admit to.
When asked what he thinks about global warming he immediately turns the question around to what he believes is the biggest threat of nuclear global warming as a consequence of the proliferation of nuclear weapons (so he does not believe AGW is the world's greatest threat, so not a good Democrat). He is scathing about Obama's "negotiation" with Iran over its nuclear program. He has never seen such incompetent negotiation and assures us it would be different on his part.
He explicitly says Obamacare is a disaster and will be worse come 2016. His solution is not "single payer" but at least allowing health insurers to compete across state lines so customers do not face monopoly or oligopoly suppliers.
He is unabashed about wanting to make the US great again and doing so by returning quality jobs to the US (not burger flippers or lots of public servants) and halting the flood of illegals.
He does take a number of jabs at Jeb Bush and explicitly says he is not up to being president. Part of his criticism of Bush is about his support for common core. So Trump is not a fan of that program beloved of Democrats and establishment Republicans. But his attacks are not just on Bush. He says Hillary is very vulnerable and that he knows Hillary's situation and her vulnerabilities better than any of the other Republicans (perhaps a benefit of mixing in Democrat circles).
Whether Trump is the best candidate or not, time will tell. But he has a broad range of credible policy positions that differentiate him from other candidates and unlike virtually all of the others he is proud of what the US once was and very explicit that he wants to rebuild it.
He has the wealth to back his own campaign but has also shown he is able to use the MSM that hates him, as well as new media such as Facebook, to generate a lot of support with little expenditure (the successful businessman and self-promoter in operation).
The fact that both the Democrats and establishment Republicans are attacking him hard shows that both of them see him as a real threat to their interests. The fact that he is not backing down draws more support from a public used to seeing political figures go to water when the political and media class criticizes them for speaking non-PC truths.
all phonies, who cares whos around. the numbers are too high regardless.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lnBLRgFQgmQ
If anyone has noticed my previous posts on Trump, I did not dismiss him out of hand, because I was hopeful that he might raise awareness on some important issues that no other candidate appears to be willing to "vocally" address, even if they might share the views. Certainly many people in this country share his views on a number of issues that they are afraid to talk about – for fear of losing their jobs. He also has some leadership qualities and skill sets that most of our recent presidents lacked.
I found that refreshing.
I expressed some concerns about his electability and ties with the cabal – as further evidenced by your reminder about his strong ties with the Clinton’s.
I remain unchanged on these views, but there is an important aspect of Trump's disposition that troubles me – and it was clearly illustrated in his recent well-received speech in Arizona.
Before I address this concern, let me remind the reader that I believe in work ethic, competitive (not crony) capitalism, free enterprise and the right to earn a profit – as does the Donald.
I also believe that nations have an even more important and justifiable right to protecting their values and culture on their merits alone - both of which are highly dependent on ethnic composition.
What concerns me about Trump is that he has a tendency to justify the success and failure of virtual all aspects of his life, and his proposed government policies, on economic criteria (read profitability) alone. We need strong leadership, but what ails America is more important than just economics. In my view, if you protect the values and culture, the economics will follow.
For example, I would have been much more impressed if Trump had justified his concerns about illegal immigration in terms of its destruction of America’s [once?] proud European-centric culture and way of life, than simply the loss of industry to foreigner governments alone – although that is very important. To me the massive immigrations of Asians with high tech skills (which Americans also possess, but not as cheaply) is just as destructive to our culture as the massive immigration of low cost Mexican labor. But since culturally destructive and white genocidal factors don’t enter into the Donald’s calculus at all, he doesn’t see it that way. To him, it’s all about what is good for the American economy, not what is good for the American people.
To me, that is a subtle but very important difference.
As I consider Trumps motivations and past, this gives me pause.
The only way Trump is sinscere will be some honest statements on the Fed parasite and what he'd do to eliminate it.
Good point.
Looks like we are still in "kosher" sub-optimal tactical decision-making mode.
If it comes down to the Donald vs. Hillarity, use your noodle.
Open source backyard affordable DIY nukes will render all plots and conspiracies void.
duplicate
Those were my thoughts that I couldn't get out of my mind. Split the Repubs up and make sure Hillarity gets in.
Simple as that.
Justin Raimondo may be right about The Donald as a false flag, but I really don't have any problem with false flags in false opposition parties. In fact, I think it enhances the entertainment value.
Jupiter square Saturn is elites stealing hope and faith now.
Greece:
Voting no longer matters
Trump:
False Hope to keep the guns from coming out
Electorate:
Once they face voting is rigged it's on.
Flyby of Pluto today
Pluto is our soulmate no wonder a heart shaped message was sent back from the surface of the planet.
He is the really real truth, he is what most can not or will not face about themselves and life.
He loves us so much that he will even kill us if it is for our own good. He will put elbow length latex gloves
on and stick his hand up our rectum to pull out what is making us sick.
He will force us to look at the disease that is living inside ourselves and our denial of it.
Pluto in Capricorn right now gives great power to the elites, especially the Jewish people since they are ruled by Saturn the lord of Capricorn. Pluto gives great power so that they can show themselves and parade around in pomp and glory in front of the world. But only at first.
He will then begin to unmask them and mock and howl at their arrogance.
He is the forest fire that burns to ground everything that is diseased but leave standing that which is healthy.
heart shaped messages of love...
It seems The Donald has had more different positions than The Kama Sutra. ;-)
There must be some hidden agenda or payoff somewhere for Trump that we aren’t being allowed to see. He wouldn’t do this for nothing. I don’t think he cares that much about the country or the presidency to suffer what he has already lost in contracts and business deals from his early run. Most importantly, I can’t imagine the GOP getting behind him as their lead choice. They have to know it would be political suicide too. I’ve speculated a lot about it. In addition to a possible false flag for the democrats, it could be:
Extortion: Hoping the GOP will eventually pay him off with money or favors to drop out.
Publicity: Looking to turn this into some kind of gig in the entertainment world.
Favors: A way of paying off someone or some group he owes a shitload of money to.
What’s really sad is how willingly leading candidates on both sides are trying to dupe a whole lot of people to achieve their real goals. They clearly have no compunction whatsoever about that, even when it’s generally obvious to so many. They’re willing to do whatever it takes to achieve their goal, as long as it comes at the expense of the little people. That is what national politics is all about today.
It was never about the money. He just wants to be the man.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tkJFpjfwsGc
Trump's a new lincoln. Gonna herd all the shill up and send em back to Mexico. He'll take the dollar, and America (the nation of big gulps) will love him for it. And be loved.