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Trumpism: The Ideology
Submitted by Jeffrey Tucker via Liberty.me,
It’s not too interesting to say that Donald Trump is a nationalist and aspiring despot who is manipulating bourgeois resentment, nativism, and ignorance to feed his power lust. It’s uninteresting because it is obviously true. It’s so true that stating it sounds more like an observation than a criticism.
I just heard Trump speak live. It was an awesome experience, like an interwar séance of once-powerful dictators who inspired multitudes, drove countries into the ground, and died grim deaths.
His speech at FreedomFest lasted a full hour, and I consider myself fortunate for having heard it. It was a magnificent exposure to an ideology that is very much present in American life, though hardly acknowledged. It lives mostly hidden in dark corners, and we don’t even have a name for it. You bump into it at neighborhood barbecues, at Thanksgiving dinner when Uncle Harry has the floor, at the hardware store when two old friends in line to checkout mutter about the state of the country.
The ideology is a 21st century version of right fascism — one of the most politically successful ideological strains of 20th century politics. Though hardly anyone talks about it today, we really should. It is still real. It exists. It is distinct. It is not going away. Trump has tapped into it, absorbing unto his own political ambitions every conceivable bourgeois resentment: race, class, sex, religion, economic. You would have to be hopelessly ignorant of modern history not to see the outlines and where they end up.
For now, Trump seems more like comedy than reality. I want to laugh about what he said, like reading a comic-book version of Franco, Mussolini, or Hitler. And truly I did laugh, as when he denounced the existence of tech support in India that serves American companies (“how can it be cheaper to call people there than here?” — as if he still thinks that long-distance charges apply).
Let’s hope this laughter doesn’t turn to tears.
As an aside, I mean no criticism of FreedomFest’s organizer Mark Skousen in allowing Trump to speak at this largely libertarian gathering. Mark invited every Republican candidate to address the 2,200-plus crowd. Only two accepted. Moreover, Mark is a very savvy businessman himself, and this conference operates on a for-profit basis. He does not have the luxury of giving the microphone to only people who pass the libertarian litmus test. His goal is to put on display the ideas that matter in our time and assess them by the standards of true liberty.
In my view, it was a brilliant decision to let him speak. Lovers of freedom need to confront the views of a man with views like this. What’s more, of all the speeches I heard at FreedomFest, I learned more from this one than any other. I heard, for the first time in my life, what a modern iteration of a consistently statist but non-leftist outlook on politics sounds and feels like in our own time. And I watched as most of the audience undulated between delight and disgust — with perhaps only 10% actually cheering his descent into vituperative anti-intellectualism. That was gratifying.
As of this writing, Trump is leading in the polls in the Republican field. He is hated by the media, which is a plus for the hoi polloi in the GOP. He says things he should not, which is also a plus for his supporters. He is brilliant at making belligerent noises rather than having worked out policy plans. He knows that real people don’t care about the details; they only want a strongman who shares their values. He makes fun of the intellectuals, of course, as all populists must do. Along with this penchant, Trump encourages a kind of nihilistic throwing out of rationality in favor of a trust in his own genius. And people respond, as we can see.
So, what does Trump actually believe? He does have a philosophy, though it takes a bit of insight and historical understanding to discern it. Of course race baiting is essential to the ideology, and there was plenty of that. When a Hispanic man asked a question, Trump interrupted him and asked if he had been sent by the Mexican government. He took it a step further, dividing blacks from Hispanics by inviting a black man to the microphone to tell how his own son was killed by an illegal immigrant.
Because Trump is the only one who speaks this way, he can count on support from the darkest elements of American life. He doesn’t need to actually advocate racial homogeneity, call for a whites-only sign to be hung at immigration control, or push for expulsion or extermination of undesirables. Because such views are verboten, he has the field alone, and he can count on the support of those who think that way by making the right noises.
Trump also tosses little bones to the Christian Right, enough to allow them to believe that he represents their interests. Yes, it’s implausible and hilarious. But the crowd who looks for this is easily won with winks and nudges, and those he did give. At the speech I heard, he railed against ISIS and its war against Christians, pointing out further than he is a Presbyterian and thus personally affected every time ISIS beheads a Christian. This entire section of his speech was structured to rally the nationalist Christian strain that was the bulwark of support for the last four Republican presidents.
But as much as racialist and religious resentment is part of his rhetorical apparatus, it is not his core. His core is about business, his own business and his acumen thereof. He is living proof that being a successful capitalist is no predictor of one’s appreciation for an actual free market (stealing not trading is more his style). It only implies a love of money and a longing for the power that comes with it. Trump has both.
What do capitalists on his level do? They beat the competition. What does he believe he should do as president? Beat the competition, which means other countries, which means wage a trade war. If you listen to him, you would suppose that the U.S. is in some sort of massive, epochal struggle for supremacy with China, India, Malaysia, and, pretty much everyone else in the world.
It takes a bit to figure out what the heck he could mean. He speaks of the United States as if it were one thing, one single firm. A business. “We” are in competition with “them,” as if the U.S. were IBM competing against Samsung, Apple, or Dell. “We” are not 300 million people pursuing unique dreams and ideas, with special tastes or interests, cooperating with people around the world to build prosperity. “We” are doing one thing, and that is being part of one business.
In effect, he believes that he is running to be the CEO of the country — not just of the government (as Ross Perot once believed) but of the entire country. In this capacity, he believes that he will make deals with other countries that cause the U.S. to come out on top, whatever that could mean. He conjures up visions of himself or one of his associates sitting across the table from some Indian or Chinese leader and making wild demands that they will buy such and such amount of product else “we” won’t buy their product.
Yes, it’s bizarre. As Nick Gillespie said, he has a tenuous grasp on reality. Trade theory from hundreds of years plays no role in his thinking at all. To him, America is a homogenous unit, no different from his own business enterprise. With his run for president, he is really making a takeover bid, not just for another company to own but for an entire country to manage from the top down, under his proven and brilliant record of business negotiation, acquisition, and management.
You see why the whole speech came across as bizarre? It was. And yet, maybe it was not. In the 18th century, there is a trade theory called mercantilism that posited something similar: ship the goods out and keep the money in. It builds up industrial cartels that live at the expense of the consumer. In the 19th century, this penchant for industrial protectionism and mercantilism became guild socialism, which mutated later into fascism and then into Nazism. You can read Mises to find out more on how this works.
What’s distinct about Trumpism, and the tradition of thought it represents, is that it is non-leftist in its cultural and political outlook and yet still totalitarian in the sense that it seeks total control of society and economy and places no limits on state power. The left has long waged war on bourgeois institutions like family, church, and property. In contrast, right fascism has made its peace with all three. It (very wisely) seeks political strategies that call on the organic matter of the social structure and inspire masses of people to rally around the nation as a personified ideal in history, under the leadership of a great and highly accomplished man.
Trump believes himself to be that man.
He sounds fresh, exciting, even thrilling, like a man with a plan and a complete disregard for the existing establishment and all its weakness and corruption. This is how strongmen take over countries. They say some true things, boldly, and conjure up visions of national greatness under their leadership. They’ve got the flags, the music, the hype, the hysteria, the resources, and they work to extract that thing in many people that seeks heroes and momentous struggles in which they can prove their greatness.
Think of Commodus (161-192 AD) in his war against the corrupt Roman senate. His ascension to power came with the promise of renewed Rome. What he brought was inflation, stagnation, and suffering. Historians have usually dated the fall of Rome from his leadership. Or, if you prefer pop culture, think of Bane, the would-be dictator of Gotham in Batman, who promises an end to democratic corruption, weakness, and loss of civic pride. He sought a revolution against the prevailing elites in order to gain total power unto himself.
These people are all the same. They are populists. Oh how they love the people, and how they hate the establishment. They defy all civic conventions. Their ideology is somewhat organic to the nation, not a wacky import like socialism. They promise greatness. They have an obsession with the problem of trade and mercantilist belligerence as the only solution. They have zero conception of the social order as a complex and extended ordering of individual plans, one that functions through freedom and individual rights.
This is a dark history and I seriously doubt that Trump himself is aware of it. Instead, he just makes it up as he goes along, speaking from his gut. This penchant has always served him well. It cannot serve a whole nation well. Indeed, the very prospect is terrifying, and not just for the immigrant groups and imports he has chosen to scapegoat for all the country’s problems. It’s a disaster in waiting for everyone.
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iF Trump ever debates Hillary, he better be ready for that debate. Those liberals are crafty. Trump should prepare for a bunch of setup questions, and practice not making himself look stupid or desperate when addressing them.
Expect the usual liberal trope - "america has always been a country built on immigration. your parents were immigrants", and picture Hillary saying with such conviction "a strong immigration policy is what has made our country what it is today, and immigrants will continue to make america great in the future. They are our future!" followed by rousing applause.
What's wrong with the americans we have now? America has the people necessary to continue to make our country the great nation it is. Look around you. We must continue to invest in all americans who are part of our country here and now. THEY deserve it. AMERICANS FIRST.
Donald trump is a great debater .....But everyone knows Hillary is the MASTER-DEBATER
< chuckle >
No.....she's a CUNNING LINGUIST.
Just ask Huma.
Well HRC, there you go again, I can now see why your public trust rating poll has just crashed to a horrible 33 %. HRC, do you understand that means that 66% of those polled feel you are untrustworthy? 66%? 66% of Democratic voters say you are untrustworthy, HRC?
My point is, before you go off the med's, I mean rails again, my campaign, as you know are 100% for LEGAL IMigration, securing our borders against those who do not have our best interest at hand. Do you understand the difference between Legal and Illegal, HRC? Or did you delete those emails to?
Let me share with you trustworthy facts ....HRC, a few simple but true facts you choose to ignore, although I do see why you poll at 33%, these facts that true Americans, along with those who have came into this great country Legally feel that you have supported. HRC, I intend to make America great again while you support Illegal IMigration, just look at the Buetiful Kate who was shot in the back in San Fransico by a 5 time deported felon. Was shot in the back while walking with her father, HRC. For the record HRC, did you attend their funeral? Did you call the family to insist on stronger rules for Illegal Felons walking the streets freely?
No You say HRC? Well let me share some facts for you in San Fransico that you need to explain to all Americans you have supported. Facts that our hard working Legal Imergrants do not support either, HRC.
Explain why over 400 Thousand Illegals have been issued Drivers Licenses in San Fransico in the first part of this YEAR ALONE!?
We will make America Great Again.
>>>> End Rant but Trump will dissect HRC in any debate. She is weak, has huge issue that will just expose her, trust rating even by Libs is massive and running behind Obolo. Game, set, match......
Here are the facts if your still reading.
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"Nearly 400,000 California driver’s licenses were issued to undocumented immigrants in the first half of this year as part of a massive effort to allow them to drive legally in the Golden State, officials announced Friday.
During the first six months that the Safe Driver and Responsibility Act — or AB 60 — went into effect, the Department of Motor Vehicles saw more than 600,000 applications from undocumented immigrants. Of those, state officials said, 397,000 met all requirements to drive in California — more than half the overall total of 759,000 licenses distributed for the same time period."
http://www.dailynews.com/government-and-politics/20150718/nearly-400000-...
What you see on TV debates is immaterial.
The only thing that matters is .... who is counting the votes.
Wow...Donald...is that you?
He would gut her like a brown bear chewing on a freshly caught salmon. And you know it.......Billy.
Yeah, looks like quite a brawl:
http://assets.bwbx.io/images/iTVKK6C4YhsM/v1/-1x-1.jpg
The Art Of The Deal.......don't ya know. He probably just convinced Billy to let him take the brunette for a ride? .....Switch, lol.
If you hear him speak, he gracefully covers donating to HRC and many other politicians, as he puts it. It won't stick IMHO Billy. Even today, he openly said he invited Bill and HRC to his wedding, told them to come. Claimed he invited many politicians and has donated to many as well. In the same sitting, claimed he raised over a million for McCain, supported him also. He is washing it perfectly IMO Billy. Maybe not.....but he is two steps ahead daily at this point IMO.
If...we do see a economic shock prior to the primaries, Trump will gain even more ground would be my guess. Question is IMO, what will transpire between now and the primaries and then the general election? The board is full and in his favor.
It also appears HRC has her claws full with the Bern. I don't even think carvill could vomit his way out of this trap. Only time will tell, as they say.
I just hope he keeps pounding and exposing the crew and their nicely weaved deeds. I'd say he has a few back room conversations in play.
He has balls, got to give him that......
"If...we do see a economic shock prior to the primaries,.."
Economic shock?? That's just crazy talk, Teamtc321.
You're spot on with the rest, though.
"If you hear him speak, he gracefully covers donating to HRC and many other politicians, as he puts it. It won't stick IMHO Billy. Even today, he openly said he invited Bill and HRC to his wedding, told them to come. Claimed he invited many politicians and has donated to many as well."
What does stick very well is the impression that Trump is a member of the elite class at the highest level and that he doesn't support candidates based on principle but rather on what he thinks they can do for him in office. You may think that because he brags about his high level connections with anyone and everyone in power regardless of their affiliations or stated principles he's a man of the people but it just sounds smarmy to me.
Trump associates with all the worst people in Washington and gives them money while condemning them publicly. He's a bad tree that can only bear bad fruit.
You and many others seem to assume President Trump won't be corrupt. How can you assume that? What moral foundation, what value system does he stand on that will keep him honest?
For the plebs, there is the idea that since he's already a billionaire he doesn't need to cheat, lie and steal and so he won't. ZH readers know better.
Triumphism you mean?
Triumph of the Shill
once a salesman, always a salesman
On Q99X2 we measure an individuals worth at exactly the moment when a value exceeds 10,000,000. After that point it is no longer necessary. There are no moral considerations to the question. It is fact.
He's not an empty suit. I am so tired of marketable faces spewing focus group approved garbage, Trump looks pretty good right about now.
Amen.
That's all I see when the eunuch Jen Bush is on the news, a focus group puppet, if you look closely you can see the strings.
07/18: Ukraine: 100 More US Military Humvees Arrive in Odessa – US Ambassador
You don't see this on the Chicken Noodle News (CNN). Thanks
I didn't know ISIS ordered more Humvees.
ANY force that opposes Political Correctness I support.
The Iranian mullahs appreciate your support!
They seem to have their own version of PC in Iran and they are even more severe in enforcing it than the Democrats and MSM.
And that's why we have Caitlyn and they don't.
So because he laments the gutting of our manufacturing base and the destruction of wages through so called free trade, Trump = Hitler???
Please... We all know he's not gonna be president and more over may be playing spoiler for other interests. But his take-down of 2 of the pillars of Libertarian (Capital L) philosophy in open borders for product and people is no less correct. The elites love to use populist as a pejorative, and sometimes it is a justifiable slur. But Trump's populist positions of protecting American sovereignty, even if insincere are justified.
Exactly so.
This is where this small l libertarian parts company with the Cap L crowd.
Free transfer may be a tenet in the high horse riding set but a pragmatic view sees no "rights" inherent to illegal aliens using taxpayer funds to finance their economic tourism or "rights" for US corporations outsourcing jobs to third world hellholes filled with slave labor so they can reap outsized profits by selling those goods back to Americans and avoid paying taxes claiming foreign domicile.
Jeff is so worried about a right wing 'populist' turning fascist but he made no mention of the current left left wing fascist or the next one in line.
Better the fascists you know than the one that could materialize?
If somebody in another country can do your job better than you for less money, then that's your problem and you need to address it.
Skill-up or shut-up.
Well said ..guys like Tucker are as doctrinaire as Lenin...their purist type of lbertarian is on the same plain as a purist leftist or devotee of some economic or politcal or historical school of thought... never mind common sense or survival. If it goes agaist theory theybwould not give a damn if we are all destroyed in the process... as longbas their theory is followed to the letter. If I could make him a US CITIZEN I would vote for Farage...who has more sense and insight than any politician in the West.
Reductio ad Hitlerum? Really?? I'm no fan of Trump, but saying he's like HItler is laughably childish.
Really, there are better ways to criticize him.
I would trust Trump to change things for the better before I would trust the GOP establishment to do so.
I would drink urine before I drank battery acid. Go urine, 2016!
It's got electrolytes...
Really.
I would advise Trump to avoid elevators, stair wells, parking structures, hire a hot 45 yr old food taster. Nail guns.......you get the picture. I wouldn't put it past the political establishment to kill those who can beat them. Bernie included. There ain't another term for the Corporate Bitch to win, it'll be over if it's not this time.
I'd be gettin some GOOD security, maybe mercs, they honor contracts and money. Espri de corps and all.
Further, Mr. Trump, do the right thing here for your country, cover Bernie Sander's security expenses 110% of your own effort. I think deep down that you know he is the answer for this time in our country's history. You have the juice. He, America, you family and friends need for you to do this on the quietatious. You only live once, can't take it with you....I won't boor you....just do what you know is right....cover Bernie Sanders please.
with real RESPECT, it's how that money gives ya balls, I like that.
GMC
Reductio ad Hitlerum? Really?? I'm no fan of Trump, but saying he's like HItler is laughably childish.
Really, there are better ways to criticize him.
Is goofy hair acceptable to you?
PS: Work on your reading comprehension. It won't be time wasted.
I feel like its not really fair to bring the wombat that lives on his head into all this. it doesn't have any say on the matter...
I apologise for my rash comment.
Perhaps we can get it a subsidy for disadvantaged wildlife. It won't make up for living on Donald's head but it might make us feel better about it.
The wombat doesn't like sitting on The Donald's scalp but Trump insists that he identifies as a steaming pile of rodent dung. He's a trans-shithead and you've got to respect that, the Supreme Court said so.
Are cankles acceptable to you?
Standard Disclaimer: If I decide to vote, it will be for the person that secures the borders and tosses the illegals out.
The Merikan people have been Gruberized, Obamasized and Bankerized so hard the past deacde, it's a wonder any of them can think straight.
Wut?
=)
i'm not sure what the point of this article is. the people of not only amerika, but the world are being herded into an abyss of central planned neo serfdom. the banners being used are alternately socialism, fascism, and crony captialism, used to keep the masses in a constant state of chaos and division along racial, cultural, and economic lines.
in all cases the puppets are being controlled by elitist oligarchs hovering far above the board.
Trump merely represents a least bad choice from a field of even worse satraps and whores. Trump at least has the means to buy a seat at the table without having to directly sell his honesty like everyone else in the game.
thank you very much. you just destroyed this fools arguments.
If you don't realizing that voting for any of these clowns, especially Trump is foolish, then please feel free to enjoy your pointy hat and big rubber nose. They look great on you!
I think the author might be on to something.
We need 4 more years of Obama.
Yeah..FOUR MOAR YEARS...He deserves a third term. Who cares about the Constitution?? George W Bush said it was just a God damned piece of paper.
Suspend the selections anyway. They make absolutely no difference at all.
Obama...Dictator for life...FOUR MOAR YEARS...fuck that..FORTY MOAR YEARS.
Hey Tyler - how about acknowledging when you're accepting political attack ads - how much you're being paid and by whom. That's a simple enough service you can provide your faithful readers. Thanks!
Tyler is posting an opinion. Notice not everything posted here agrees with one another? That is because they try to give us a spectrum of takes on things that you will not necessarily find in the MSM.
Does not mean they agree or disagree.
You have clearly missed them posting stuff dissing many candidates.
When I was a shit out of luck nobody starving kid on the street, Colonel Sabow was kind to me.
I'll never vote for people I don't first look in the eye.
Colonel Sabow was cool. Measured. Disciplined. Thoughtful. As much as he said to me, a civ, he was honest. He never said anything I didn't need to know. He was the perfect Marine. He loved America.
He told me he was an old pilot, so he was looking at the block. Despite his combat experience he was scheduled for retirement. Pentagon desk work. He was a flier. He hated the idea.
I was the boy next door. Whatever reason, he started trying to get me square. Besides the "old guy no fly" mandate he told me he had bank retirement. He puzzled how he would be an old guy with no wings.
He had everything shipshape and he knew it.
It was not in him to suicide.
The next day, he just wasn't there. Thats how it is, kids.
MsCreant...
At this point far too many are so indictrinated through the Main Stream Media propaganda methods that they have never read or have seen true journalism.
Even far too many of my generation have forgotten what true journalism is.
REPORTING IS NOT NECESSARILY SUPPORTING.
Do you remember when Ron Paul was running and Fox News did their best to NOT EVEN MENTION HIS NAME? It was not just Fox News to be fair. All MSM participated in that.
Even Jon Stewart thought that this was so outrageous that he did an entire humor filled rant about it on his The Daily Show Comedy Central program.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qtDJ6Ay4QMw
If you do not report it then it does not exist or it is irrelevant. We can paint people as irrelevant.
And the current Generation X'ers and Millenials believe that this is not only normal but moral and ethical as they know nothing different.
Because I brought up Ron Paul's name I will, of course, receive a bunch of troll downarrows and deragatory comments.
But the truth is that I will NEVER EVER VOTE FOR ANOTHER REPUBLICAN OR DEMOCRAT AGAIN.
The 2012 SELECTION totally convinced me that it was indeed a SELECTION and that your vote does not count.
It is not "just me" with this attitude. Many Ron Paul supporters backed out and did not vote in the 2012 SELECTION.
Mitt Romney's people told us outright to "STAY HOME" and that Romney did not need our MILLIONS OF VOTES.
I guess that he wanted to lose. He spent $500 MIllion TO LOSE.
Well many MILLIONS of us are STAYING HOME AGAIN and when Hitllery wins we will be delighted that it will be that CUNT who will be at the helm when the whle God Damned Nation falls into a total collapse.
Every single Republican in here, believing that their Red Team will somehow make a difference will NOT get any chance.
Besides. It was a REPUBLICAN LED CONGRESS that VOTED TO FUND OBAMACARE. It was a RED TEAM Republican LED Congress that VOTED TO FAST TRACK the TRANS PACIFIC PARTNERSHIP TREATY.
THERE IS NO FUNDAMENTAL DIFFERENCE between the REPUBLICANS AND THE DEMOCRATS.
But I just will enjoy their shock, disgust and dismay when Hitlery slithers in as HISSES the Oath of Office.
These "conservatives" who are nothing more than SOCIALISTS masquarading as conservatives DESERVE THEIR DESTRUCTION.
DEATH TO THE SOCIALISTS.
Fuck the NSA.
So assholes...Respond if you can and tell me how your Party REJECTS Obamacare. Bring it on. Respond if you can and tell me how your Party did NOT SELL US DOWN THE RIVER with fast tracking the TPP.
But you can't. So you won't. And so you will junk.
And you are just a bunch of TRAITORS, wrapping yourself up in the Flag, and embracing your shackles of enslavement.
Let me know when you start shooting... and pick your targets wisely.
Exactly so, this article Imo WAS meant to stir comment and debate...which it did. The PTB will never allow him or a Ron aPul to
o be president ...not even Rand is going to be allowed.. we will have Hitlery or Jeb of the fourth reich selected for
us..Diebold chooses, we do not.
Guess Jeffrey likes Bush. At least Trump is Hopefully not connected to the status quo. That is refreshing.
Trump is connected at the hip with the status quo.A crny capitalist almost as bad
as Uncle Warren. Don't delude yourself.Same shit ,different container.
You ARE right! I don't care. He's got the cahonees to stir the shit bucket. I like that about him.
He'll fully expose the kooks in the Clown Car. Sure you can't get Romney back in there?
Non-Left statist... sounds like GWBush. Are Trump supporters different from GWBush supporters? Not really. Same demographics, I suspect.
So perhaps Trumpism is not as new as the author here believes.
I personally believe 90% of Trump's support is born of his strong anti-immigration rhetoric. If a VIABLE conservative candidate voiced similar domestic security/secure border policy details, they would run away from the pack & win the R nomination... easily.
The US has BY FAR the most liberal immigration laws/system in the world. Tightening domestic security and securing the borders is not Nativist - it's Common Sense. Voters are absolutely CRAVING some common sense from candidates, but the establishment GOP won't give it to them... but Trump does (in his own way).
I was thinking of GW Bush too while I read this piece. Cut from a similar looking cloth, although Bush could never claim to be a successful businessman.
It's really not my concern, since I live across the pond, but the article is probably not an inaccurate assessment of Trump. If you're going to vote for him, it's best to vote with your eyes wide open. The fact that he is not a career politician is a bonus and he is by far the better choice considering it's another inevitable Bush or Clinton sine qua non. For sheer entertainment value alone, he ought to be elected president. After all, it'd make it easier for the world to rally round to defeat a batshit crazy fascist than a smooth talking warmonger with a Nobel peace prize under his belt. So go for it America! Vote Trump I implore you, close your borders permanently and don't let anyone in or out. Firewall the internet, keep the CIA, NSA, army, navy and airforce within your borders too. I'm pretty sure that would merit another peace prize delivery to the WH.
I can't wait until somebody tells him the CIA and Mossad are behind ISIS - he might nuke Langley and Tel Aviv and accidentally start a global era of world peace.
Trump for President! Because the others are worse. (Please feel free to use this tagline).
We zre not the only Western country being flooded y refugees frkm third world ...Greece and Italy, both in dire economic straits, also being flooded with migrants from Libya and Nort Africa. They have moved into France, most trying to gst to UK where they get instant benefits. No more room in govt housing for native born The cufrent influx into US fromcental america and exico was done on purpose..to furtyer destabilize the country ot to mention bring the e tire system to its knees. They will get their new world ordef...because they are overwhelming tnose who could stop it with millions whose only concern is being taken care of by someone,k in our case govt. The new feudalism in the West is only months away. It will be interesti g to see which chosen pfeselected candidate will be the midwife
In order to understand Donald Trump ... you also need to be able to understand the business of commercial real estate .... Trumps commercial real estate holdings are so big he'll make another $10 billion on his commercial real estate holdings just by turning the US economy around .... plus deep down I think he really cares about brand USA.
I can't wait to get brand USA on Hilary's ass. I can smell the smoke now.
So you like the smell of burning shit? Odd fetish.
Thanks for the laugh, MsCreant. +1
Like you don't need an ego to be pres...
Fuck you Jeff Tucker!
Here's who the author is, for anyone who follows this stuff - I don't. He was if i remember the webmaster at lewrockwell.com and then Mises Institute and is now gone.
http://intellectualconservative.com/jeffrey-tucker-vs-the-rockwellians/
Tucker used to be a "thin" libertarian/an-capist in the vein of Lew Rockwell, Walter Block, Ron Paul and others.
Somewhere along the way he changed his mind and became a "thick" libertarian, i.e., a politically-correct libertarian in the mold of the Cato Institute.
Take that for what you will.
Trump/Kardashian in '16
Fuck us all , it's my scorched earth policy before I head to the bunker with my tote of debloons
All this crap about making fun of McCains service. TRUMP did speak the truth. He said, "John McCain is a war hero because he got caught."
That is a true statement! Had he not been caught he would have ended his military career like most of us. As a regular veteran.
What he did heroic besides survive as a POW I don't know.
John McShame may have been a great man at one time, but that time has long since passed. McShame is a rock star in Israel, they just love him and his endless support, even when that support works against America's self interest.
If you are a moderate dem or republican, the media loves you, but if you are true to your principles, liberal or conservative, they will destroy you.
McShames claim to infamy began in the middle 1980s when he helped out Charles Keating out of Scottsdale, AZ swinle the state of Arizona Department of Transportation out of tens of millions of Dollars of Sales Tax revenue for the sale of some worthless land on the West Side of the White Tank Mountains as there was Loop 303 which was built. a massive Freeway...to NOWHERE.
Hell that Charlie keating was so into Fraud and corruption he was instrumental in bringing about the collapse of the Savings and Loans back then.
And McShame was on the take.
War Hero? Bullshit. The guy is absolute corrupted DOGSHIT.
And there was NO CHOICE during 2008. Because yu had that piece of shit running against anither piece of shit Marxist.
And there would have been no difference in the outcome no matter which one of those assholes had won in 2008.
How many aircraft carriers have you blown up?
See? He is not like many other veterans.
(except for a few Japanese pilots in WWII)
McShame's father quashed the investigation of the Israeli attack on the USS Liberty.
They all work for the same boss.
Mccain crashed FIVE AIRCRAFT, twonwhile in flight training, if he had not been son of top admiral he would have been dropped from flight program after the second crash .. A board of inquiry could not find any reason why he ejected from his plane...anyone else would be GONE ,,,,he we t on to crash 3 mor...including the one he was shot down in. If the NAVY had dropped him while he was in flight training instead of giving him a pass that was undeserved,,,,,,he never would have been a POW. NEPOTISM gave Mccain his start, while better men than him ended up driving a ri er boat in the Mekong delta. He was NO HERO....HE was a survivor, who stopped investigation into POW atters when he got to congress.
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Any Navy flyboy who crashes two planes would be cashiered out long time ago. He crashed three, the last one put him in prison. The only thing that prevented this was the fact that his daddy was an Admiral and used his ringknocker influence!
And there were different classes of 'prisoners' in Hanoi. The ones there recall a much different set of arrangements for the admiral's 'heroic' son, while life fo the 'little people' prisoners sucked 24x7. Few of his fellow prisoners believe his stories about supposed torture and abuse at the hands of the prison guards.
He was a rock star prisoner and treated as such - valuble to the North Vietnamese as a bargaining chip. The little people POWs? Not so much.
Benedict Arnold did more for this country than john mccain ever did, and how do we remember him?
Sadly, he sounds a whole lot better than Jeb Bush and the Hildabeast.
IN a nation where we are told "we are all immigrants", regardless of how many generations our families have lived here, a bit of "nativism" is sorely needed.
TRUMP is not the cause of the nation's ills, but a response.
I would be perfectly happy if all of the elites, including the clueless author, dropped dead.
The author is a libertarian. In your opinion all self reliant individuals are elitists because they won't pay for your crap. That's why you support real elitists like Trump. Imagine the stupidity of those who think that The Donald is a man of the people! It makes for some fun times when Donald and Hillary get together to laugh at the little folks.
Are you saying that you think people will confuse Trump with the shoeshine guy in his lobby?
Really?
The author is not a libertarian; he is an idiot. He gives libertarians a bad name. Mussolini? Come on.
Because Trump in the White House could in no way be seen as a merger of state and corporate power.
...so by your logic, there can never be a president who was first a businessman.
But lawyers and assorted community organizers are perfectly qualified to be career politicians... pure of heart, the lot of them, I'm sure.
Why do you believe that there are only two legitimate points of view, Obama's or Trumps? There are three hundred million individuals living in this country. Too bad you don't understand the concepts of self reliance and individual liberty. Then again, it would probably kill you so you should probably just keep demanding that the government take care of you.
And don't worry about the election outcome. Trump has donated more to Democrats than he ever has to Republicans so you're covered by your elitist masters either way. And they appreciate it.
Donald Trump Donated Heavily To Democrats, Especially During Election Which Put Reid And Pelosi In PowerRecords show that in June 2006, Trump donated $20,000 to the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee. That was in addition to the $5,000 he sent in April 2005 to the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee. At the same time, Trump Jr. gave the two Democratic committees a total of $22,500.
While the Trumps spent nearly $50,000 to elect congressional Democrats, they donated only $1,000 to the National Republican Congressional Committee (NRSC).
But perhaps the worst outcome that election for Republicans was that Pelosi and Reid became Speaker of the House and Senate Majority Leader, respectively. The pair made a formidable team and did heavy lifting to ensure that Obama was elected in 2008 and that much of his agenda — including Obamacare — was put in place.
Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2015/06/03/donald-trump-donated-heavily-to-democrats-especially-during-election-which-put-reid-and-pelosi-in-power/#ixzz3gJCsCPXVThe reason why I like threads like this is that it serves to separate the Stateists traitors who have been masquarading as supporters of Liberty and Freedom from those of us who actually celebrate Liberty and Freedom.
The pretenders are exposed for the snakes which they are.
Look at how they junk you for exposing the truth about Trump. And then when you defend your position with the factual information notice how they slither away.
The arrow counts are proving out informative that we have far too many pretenders here on the Comments Section on Zerohedge.
I will root you pretenders out...FUCKING SOCIALIST STATEISTS.
It's interesting that the Trump supporters here do seem to be enthralled quite literally by Trump and his statist dictates thereby validating Jeff Tucker's analogy equating populist Trumpism with fascism. Recall that populism (more government control and less personal freedom) is the opposite of libertarianism (less government control and more personal freedom) as diagrammed on the Nolan Chart.
I cannot recall the last time I encountered this level of general and historical ignorance. The author is an ignoramous.
Trump addresses reality. Immigration needs to be stopped, illegals deported along with all holders of dual-nationality.
"holders of dual-nationality"
“Israel is one of my favorite places in the world” -- Donald Trump
"Nobody but Donald Trump will save Israel" -- Donald Trump
Don't blame me. I voted for Donald Duck.
Me
Mickey Mouse
Me
Ross Perot
Me
Pat Buchannon
Me
John "Crash" McCain
Me
John the Irish pretender
Me
even Bishop "burn it down" Mitt
Now you have to fuck the names on the TP. You cannot write in yourself as president. Only the lesser offices.
I'm rooting for Joaquin Guzman Loera. Nail 'em, Jo. Just knock off a supreme court justice or two, and I'm sure you'll get a full pardon and all the underage crackaz you want.
Burn it. To the ground.
Trump would win if the USA ever has FREE and OPEN and HONEST elections.
trump obviously has the corporate media and its corporate advertisers very worried.
That delights me.
Whoever the corporate media/BigBusiness hates, I love. Whoever they love, I hate.
The media obviously hates and fears Trump. Look at the glee which they displayed upon seeing Trump make this little slip of the tongue.
The corporate media represents their corporate advertisers.
Trump threatens them with the loss of their never-ending stream of cheap foreign labor.
Corporate media loves him, are you kidding me? Trump is a story that keeps on giving. He is getting more attention than the other candidates. Spectacle. Sensation.
Work it cover boy!
He is more of a "Queen" than Ru Paul.
I see an attention whore, trying to turn a buck.
He wins if he wins, he wins if he loses.
No reason not to do this. Nothing to lose. And what a hoot for him if it happens to happen.
Spot on. It amazes me that some folks think that a billionaire who's all over the TV is a man of the people feared by media. And you just can't convince them otherwise.
We are a celebrity loving nation! The banking elites are playing the voting public like a fiddle right now.
If we have to have a reality president can't it be Gordon Ramsey? I can just see him cursing his way through each episode of White House Nightmares.
Fuck this author. he is a dishonest piece of shiite.
Where was this shiitehead when Obama was running for Presdient?
Will write fuck, but not shit. WTF? Are you just being ironical?
Yo razor... one has to keep some standards here. I thought you might catch the misspelled dounle entendre rather than irony.
But keep up that eye shade and good accounting pencil sharp.
Are You Smarter Than a 5th Grader?
Are you a liberal about to lose taypayer entitlements?
If you are truly confident in that appraisal of your own abilitiies, then it would behoove you to Dump the Trump.
Wait until your EBT Card doesn't get reactivated. If you ask nicely, will send some money to help you.
That's how we operate in the Republic of America.
Most of us have never even thought about a stinkin' EBT card. We make our money, invest our money and live our lives according to whats considered to be solid moral underpinnings.
Inferring someone depends on EBT cards or welfare because they don't like Donald Trump is bullshit....
So go phuck yersef.
After a little debate in fight club, we think somewhat a like.
Let me correct the faggot perception you portray yourself on Political Correctness websites. We state the following. Go Fuck Yourself.
Not a pansy cloning to hide your girly homosexual feelings.
Vote for Hillary who is hated by the media. Collect your free liberal shit. Or vote Jeb Bush who's passive as a koala bear. Enough of this dynasty bullshit.
The author is this piece sounds like a real fucking whiner.
George Soros employee.
I'll very happily celebrate George Soros' death-day annually.
Terrific (and scary) analysis.
Nativist = American who doesn't want their job taken by a H1B visa immigrant. And in some case that poor sap must train the alien usurper. This article is pure dogshit and ZH is starting (???) to become a controlled opposition mind fuck. ......and lastly no offense, but if Ron Paul wasn't such a soft ass pussy he'd probably be president.
Paul is a moron and a hyporite. we need him like a hole in the head
Well Donald Trump isn't a Savior or anything but he is the best guy running for the GOP nomination. He at least has brought to NATIONAL attention a topic previously BANNED by the Media Bosses.
America’s Cultural Marxists Huff, Puff—Try To Shut Down Trump, Immigration Debate By Peter Brimelow, former Executive Editor, Forbes magazine 07.13.2015
Obamacrats Stay With No-Borders/Kidinvasion Stratagem. GOP Leadership Stays Bribed
Naziism does not equal Hitler. Naziism is at least as much a political system as that fraud Islam is a religion. Islam is just a theocracy.People need to log off Facebook and Tinder and do some reading.
LOL!
Is this Liberty.me blog for real or a hoax? I got about halfway through and could not stop laughing! Horrors - we are in the process of creating a new Mussolini, Stalin, or Hitler! Ha ha ha ha ha ......like things are going so great now.
I talk with my 83 year old mother regularly Today, I talked with my 60-something neighbors. They both sound like 1776-1787 rebels. Something has been unleashed in our land. We will see where it goes but this poster and all of the establishment politicians hiding and screaming how unfair and dangerous this is will only make the backlash more exponential than it already is. The sleeping masses are awakening thanks to our savior Obama!
Tucker is an avowed anarchist. Kind of puts your rebellious neighbors in perspective, doesn't it? Voting for a media savvy billionaire is not the equivalent of wintering at Valley Forge.
Why don't you check out Tucker's blog, his support for private property, his distaste for the police state and his criticism of socialism. You could learn far more from him than from a reality TV Presidential wannabe.
maybe trump can make it an election between the people riding in the wagon, and those pulling it.
The riders vote as a solid bloc if they vote at all.
It's the pullers is where a lot of confusion exists. A lot of pullers are happy to vote for more riders without thinking through the consequences.
I have to add one more thing. Does this poster think Jeb! will save us all?
Tucker is an anarchist. Anarchists believe that each individual is responsible for himself. It's Trump supporters and not Jeff Tucker who want a nanny to look out for them.
And a archists tend to magical thinking..given human nature and history the only place anarchy will work is among men who are near perfect...how does one force or make the perfect man whose nature will allow live and let live....short of second coming ..the perfect man will never exist...forget live and let live..arrogant and full of hubris isvthe average anar hist who runs to south america taking others wiyh him only to discover the next generation is not knterested... and wants what the anarchist has. No getting around human nature...not unless there is a quantu leap in mans psyche
And a archists tend to magical thinking..given human nature and history the only place anarchy will work is among men who are near perfect...how does one force or make the perfect man whose nature will allow live and let live....short of second coming ..the perfect man will never exist...forget live and let live..arrogant and full of hubris isvthe average anar hist who runs to south america taking others wiyh him only to discover the next generation is not knterested... and wants what the anarchist has. No getting around human nature...not unless there is a quantu leap in mans psyche
In journalism, this article is what’s known as a hit piece. It is designed to blanket the subject with gross innuendos, inaccuracies and vile opinion disguised as information.
Frankly, Trumpism is not just found by bumping into Uncle Harry at Thanksgiving; Trumpism happens to have bumped into the previously sleeping base of the Republican Party.
Those percentage point gains by Trump against the entire field of Republican candidates are a signal that this man is talking truth and his opponents are talking out of the side of their mouths.
There’s only one way to evaluate the Trump phenomenon at this point and it is not to encircle his entire persona; it is to identify the explosive issue of immigration coming from Mexico and others crossing an open border into America.
What could be wrong with identifying an issue that Americans feel strongly about? I’ll tell you what’s wrong. The author of this piece, which should never have appeared on Zero Hedge, has a candidate in mind for his support. And it is frightening to consider which one of this sorry crowd it might be.
I am for truth breaking out; apparently this guy isn’t.
I just have to add another one more tidbit and then I am done. Obama and his minions are right now scouring the land from sea-to-shining-sea looking for lily-white neighborhoods to dump upstanding, patriotic Section 8 citizens with their Obamaphones and other indiosyncracies into. Is this liberty? Would Trump possibly do something worse than to destroy millions of Americans property values, quality of life, and possibly, the rape and death of their children, as Obama is now doing? Or how about millions of more Muslims with their disaffected, depressed 2nd and 3rd generations that are more than willing to lash out at the Great Satan from within?
I like what you say, diamond dog, but I think we all have to be careful of this mantra that the Muslims are the primary domestic threat to the United States - with Fox News and the neocons actually suggesting that Muslims are taking over the country. But, in truth, the major government positions, the bureaucracy, the universities, the foundations, the Congress, the media, the columnists, Wall Street, and the educational establishment are all in the hands of…practically no Muslims. In fact, many of these positions, from the nation’s top financial positions to the media to corporate control, are held by Jews.
And it’s ironic that it is the Jews and Israel who have Muslims as their primary enemy. We are being sucked into dangerous war-hysteria propaganda which will not serve our country well.
As for Muslims, Wikipedia reports that “native-born American Muslims are mainly African Americans who make up about a quarter of the total Muslim population. Many of these have converted to Islam during the last seventy years. Conversion to Islam in large urban areas[4] has also contributed to its growth over the years.”
Wiki, adds, “Islam was followed by 0.9% of the population in 2010.”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam_in_the_United_States
Muslims target young black men who have grown up being told they are victims and hating white people. The facebook page of the Muslim guy in Oklahoma who beheaded his coworker was an interesting read. In the span of about a year he went from annoying misspelled ghetto posts about life in da hood to praising the 9/11 attacks and talking about how women should dress and act.
Right wingers automatically call anyone who doesn't agree with their views a communist.
and left wingers automatically call anyone who disgrees with them a Nazi, so what's your point?
Naziism is perfectly acceptable to the right wing.
The truth is: if a commie showed up at democrat's door the democrat would probably shoot the commie's ass. If a nazi showed up at a republican's door the republican would invite the nazi in for a cup of coffee and say... "tell me more!"
Welcome to ZH and other similar websites, where if you don't just love everything the righties stand for, you are classified a commie, which is utter bullshit.
The boot stomping on the German face, albeit Jewish, is American-made.
The favorable double standard afforded 70 years of Stalinism versus 10 years of Hitlerism was created by Jewish and liberal support for Lenin, Stalin and the Bolshevist Movement. Alexander Solzhenitsyn wrote in The Gulag Archipelago, “In that same period (referring to 1945-1966)”:
"… eighty-six thousand Nazi criminals had been convicted in West Germany. (Meanwhile, in East Germany, nothing of the sort is to be heard. Which means that they have been shod with new shoes; they are valued in the service of the state.) And still we choke with anger here [in the Soviet Union]. ...We even stay after work to attend protest meetings and vote: Too few! Eighty-six thousand are too few. And twenty years is still too little! It must go on and on. And during the same period, in our own country (according to the reports of the Military Collegium of the Supreme Court) about ten men have been convicted.... Meanwhile, if we translate 86,000 West Germans into our own terms, on the basis of comparative population figures, it would become one quarter million (175-176)."
Germans must, as Robert Hickson said, resist this "very hostile, strategic psychological warfare now still being conducted against their culture and way of life!"
This stupid article can be summed up as Trump equals Hitler. IOW, another stupid article presented by ZH
This Tucker clown sounds like a guy with his nose FAR up Hillaroid's culo. Does he really think that Hillary or Jeb (fanmilies are very close, they imported lots of H together) would be better for America? I like Rand and maybe Cruz, if I could get past his Goldman Sachs wife... but if they fail... bring on Trump. He doesn't like parasite illegals or McLame? BFD.
Got some news for you...Trump and Hitlery are pals.
Trump supported the US Senator from New York, Hitlery Clinton.
Who's nose is up who's ass
BOTH OF THEM ARE ASSHOLE LICKERS
NEVER, EVER ket the facts get in the way of the narrative.
Hitlery was a guest at Trump's last wedding.
Trump has been a NAJOR CONTRIBUTOR to the Clinton Foundation.
Bill Clinton plys golf with Trump.
Trump declares that the Clinton Presendency was the best of the last fiour, against that of even GHW Bush...
http://www.9news.com/video/4346547643001/1/Trumps-Weird-Friendship-With-The-Clintons-Seems-To-Be-Over
Junk away as yu do NOT CHANGE the TRUTH.
You dishonest fucks are going to be so deserving when the shitshow happens and it will be a pleasure to cap your ass,..amd maim you so that you have a long slow suffering demise and death.
"Keep your friends close and your enemies even closer."
I did not know that Trump has already sold out for the Middle East's Islamic ideology.
That is where that line originated. It is a standard tactic by warring tribes of Middle Easterners.
So you are Islamic?
Well great.
Allah ackhbar to you mutherfukker!!!
Actually, I was alluding to Francis Coppola's Godfather II. Using your (twisted I must say) logic - does it make Francis Coppola, Marlon Brando or Al Pacino Muslims? By the same token, if I call someone a 'schmuck', will it make me Jewish, too?
pero
According to my program, we've already seen 4 acts of the shitshow and only have one act left to go.
The one where somebody says:
THis article loses on multiple fronts. e.g. 'trade war' portion, obviously his vague platform to date on international trade is not practical due to multinational corporations today and bi-lateral trading patterns BUT this does not apply to all corporations or countries. There are many where this may be applicable to an extent. To dismiss this idea as 'trumpism' is knee jerk journalsim
The criminal elites and their governments and corporations no longer even try to disguise their criminality. That goes for government agencies, the US government, banks, media, financials, airlines, etc. I truly hate them all and I will rejoice when they reap the whirlwind of revolution. Fuck them all. No mercy, no quarter.
Speaking of Trumpism, here’s one for our favorite warmonger, John McCain:
Says Trump: “He’s a war hero because he was captured. I like people who weren’t captured.”
Back in 2011, when Trump first considered a run at the White House before the 2012 election between President Barack Obama and former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney, The Smoking Gun shredded his ambiguous story about having a “high draft number” to shreds when they found and published his multiple deferment records. Turns out Trump received four student deferments and one medical release from serving in the military at the time, according to records and not his memory of the time:
http://www.mediaite.com/online/donald-trump-ignores-draft-deferment-ques...
And that makes him different than Jebbie, Hitlery, or any of the others how?
So you support Trump because he's the same as Jeb and Hillary?
No, I'm saying people need to be more consistent in their criticisms. I don't 'support' Trump, but I like some of the things he is forcing discussion on, like immigration. BUT, that is probably going help Hitlery by firing up hispanics to register and vote in the 2016 election, so overall a negative.
See my latest comment at top of thread. I'm just trying to figure out why he, since he is no better/worse than Hitlery or Jebbie, draws these types of venomous criticisms when they don't.
Would he really be worse than either of the front runners given that he isn't beholden to any donors?
"draws these types of venomous criticisms when they don't."
But they do get massive criticism, especially Hillary.
"he isn't beholden to any donors?"
Then why is he hitting up Sheldon Adelson for support?
Donald J. Trump Verified account @realDonaldTrump
Nobody but Donald Trump will save Israel. You are wasting your time with these politicians and political clowns. Best! #SheldonAdelson
https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/592698043629215746
But they do get massive criticism, especially Hillary.
Are you fucking kidding me? Based on her record of incompetence and criminality she should be IN PRISON for fucks sake, not the candidate to beat for 2016.
I think you showed your hand there my friend. Thats called a tell in poker.
Fucking Hitlery...........yeah, that media darling gets taken to the woodshed all the time.
I think you showed your hand there my friend. Thats called a tell in poker.
Fucking Hitlery...........yeah, that media darling gets taken to the woodshed all the time.
I don't watch TV news like you do so I have no idea what goes on there. But I see people here call her "Hitlery" and I consider that to be criticism. Unless you are going to claim that you are not criticizing Hillary by calling her "Hitlery" then I don't understand why you think I've "shown my hand." So show us your hand, are you critical of Hillary Clinton or not? Is there or is there not a massive amount of criticism of Hillary Clinton on websites generating billions of page views?
It's sad to think that you really believe that there are only two kinds of people, Trump people and Hillary people. You think I must be one or the other. But guess what, I don't like either one. I can see your jaw drop in disbelief but it is possible. Some people come to their own conclusions without consulting television.
Yo Billy - 'Tis a pity that the Media was not deven 10% as agressive with their investigative journalism with Obama as they were with Trump or Bush....
Now thnk again and adjust your comment.
The media and government are socially engineering a clueless and compliant population. That's the game. It has nothing to do with any agenda or set of principles other than the maintenance and growth of power for the status quo. Obama, Bush, Trump and the others all willingly play their parts in this charade. The elites intend that you pick a side and focus on these puppets while the real power grows unchecked.
Now think independently for the first time and adjust your servility.