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Flight MH370 Wreckage Found, Close To Madagascar
16 Months after Malaysia Airlines Flight MH370 disappeared off the coast of Malaysia, The Telegraph reports that fragments of a wing washed up in the French island of Reunion (near Madagascar) could be wreckage from the missing plane, according to an aviation expert.
Vareious consipracy theories surrounded the plane's disappearance...
But as The Telegraph reports, there may be some resolution...
Xavier Tytelman, a former military pilot who now specialises in aviation security, was contacted on Wednesday morning by a man living on the island of Reunion, in the Indian Ocean. The man sent Mr Tytelman a series of photos showing wreckage of a plane, which the Frenchman said could possibly be the missing jet.
"I've been studying hundreds of photos and speaking to colleagues," Mr Tytelman told The Telegraph. "And we all think it is likely that the wing is that of a Boeing 777 – the same plane as MH370.
"Police in Reunion examining the wreckage say that it looks like it's been in the water for around a year, which again would fit with MH370. We can't say for certainty, but we do think there is a chance that this is it."
The wing fragment....
And an expert explains...
Similitudes incroyables entre le flaperon d'un #B777 et le débris retrouvé ce matin à #LaReunion... #MH370 ? pic.twitter.com/GDkzRLwi2h
— Xavier Tytelman (@PeurAvion) July 29, 2015
Where the wing fragment was found...
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Writing on his blog, Mr Tytlemann explains, (via Translate)
The day starts with an innocuous call of the meeting. Was found on the beach of debris that resemble those of an aircraft wing. A few photos later, no certainty, that it is actually a piece of plane (asymmetry above/below). Too convex, not deep enough, the piece doesn't look like yet the wing of a modern airliner or a recreational tourism plane.
The AvGeek team was then launched in the search. It is a forum in which pilots, aviation specialists and enthusiasts share away from prying, allowing all hypotheses... ideas abound and lead on the most likely: the box of an airliner.
Remains is to define what aircraft, and we are launching in the comparison of hundreds of photos of airliners. The missing element will come from a driver, LustuCrewfriend, who sends me the Boeing 777 flaperons patterns.
The similarity is amazing,"we can see the slot for the outboard actuator, the seal... "Here is the small made mounting:
Comparison between the flaperon of a B777 and the debris found at the meeting
Have found the first debris from the MH370, the Boeing 777 of the Malaysia Airlines been in March 2014 to the Australia wide without leaving any trace? The debris seems not very degraded and constables on the spot believe that they could be immersed for about a year...
A reference is also indicated on the debris: BB670. This code corresponds to the registration of an aircraft, or the serial number of a device. On the other hand, if this flaperon belongs to the MH370, it is clear that this reference will allow to identify rapidly. In a few days, we will have a definitive answer.
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absolutely false.
do you have any idea the size and strength and redundancy of those core columns.
the pancaking of those core columns itself, alone, indicates that much more energy {i.e. explosives of some kind} was in the system than was possible provided by the plane, burning jet fuel or office fires.
it's not even close.
you had the bottom floors which could support 3 times the load they had collapsing one after the other AS THERE WAS LESS AND LESS LOAD ON THEM and acceleration had stopped.
Building 7, whatever its significant damage from fires and falling structure fell from the Top floor - easily visible in the video - down. That can not happen because a column in a central floor went - particularly not symetrical.
planes and fires didnt destroy those core columns...
Agreed on the collapse of the building part. But the initial impact did shear the columns. The rest was the finishing touches of those responsible.
can you provide me a link to something substantiating that?
dear junkers -
http://911research.wtc7.net/wtc/analysis/official/columns.html
since when is asking for proof of an assertion a bad thing?
fucking half wits probably barely passed a high school physics class, too.
Wait . . . .wait . . . . wait, it's almost as if they have installed fiber optic cables in the top 20 to 40 floors of both towers the week before, and had interleaved them with nanothermite, which was then ignited by a laser pulse on the morning of 9/11/01?
We should inquire to the government physicist who had experimented with that at the Naval Surface Warfare Center the year prior.
Oops! We can't, he was aboard one of those four airliners that day and died!
Maybe EurekaGGN might know something, after all, they were the fiber optics installer.
DG, you're mixing apples and oranges when you start equating strength and energy. The UNITs are different for starters. I'm a mechanical engineer by training, and BL's descriptions of the event are very plausible, and counter-arguments like yours mostly just make we wince (no offense).
Static and Dynamic loading are VERY different entities; it worries me that you're claiming superior knowledge of physics. Here's a simple example: Take an solid object, like a brick, and hold its full weight by one end (the "top"), but let it touch a dense rigid surface (like a heavy table or floor) on the bottom. Let go instantly (say it's a robot hand for simplicity) -- what's the max G-force between it and the level surface? Answer: 2G -- and that's with no visible motion, just the loading change propagating as a (sound) wave inside the brick. Only there for an instant, and only present with rigid materials.
Rigid materials are excellent for strength, but often poor at absorbing energy (more brittle than tough). The details are non-trivial when you try to design for both. Don't believe me? Fine -- then live in an unreinforced masonry building in an earthquake zone.
Even simpler - drop a .45 bullet 30 cm on your head and you may not even feel it. Fire the same bullet from a gun 30 cm from your head and it will explode. Tha mass of the object is the same, velocity is markedly different. The energy imparted by VxV is the killer.
Note how HowdyDoody is excluding two VERY IMPORTANT variables: that the top portion of one of the towers fall off, thereby removing that weight from its equation, plus a good deal went up in smoke during the raging fires, thereby removing more weight --- hence the source of much of the veclocity --- from its equation.
Wings and fuselage shatter at those speeds, more or less vapourized. However landing gear and engines don't.
An aircraft flying at 500mph at 50 feet above the ground is impossible because of ground effect make it go UP.
More like a cruise missile.
Come on now, that would be conspiracy theory fact.
How can the wings disappear altogether from the Pentagon? Only the Shadow knows.
That was a missile. Not a plane. Whe you repeat the lie and make it big, it becomes reality.
My 14 year old son told his teacher in the year 2000 that the 3rd millenium does not start unril January 1st 2001 and he was expelled as a radical. I had hard time convincing some friends and aquaintances the same.
That's why my earlier comment that it is hard to change someones deep rooted beliefs.
The problem with disinformation programs being so successful is the lack of analytical thinking.
No doubt, Dona K, you do think analytically from time to time, but it has to be a constant habit.
Right after 9/11/01, a number of odd stories appeared on the Internet (Web) proclaiming that drones had nuked the Twin Towers, not airplanes flying into them, then controlled demos occurring, and a missile had flown into the Pentagon. These stories were tracked back to a set of IP blocks owned by the Pentagon.
No, all four airliners crashed that day (there were supposed to be five (read the best book on 9/11, titled: Touching History, by Lynn Spencer) and any number of witnesses observed Flight 77 on its way into the west wall of the Pentagon.
What is peculiar about that was that it flew dead center into the reinforced west wall (reinforced construction reported in Structure magazine around one year prior) scant feet above the ground, and that the first crew onsite to remove all the debris was AMEC, managed by a close bud of Donald Rumsfeld, and a fellow BoD member at ABB, along with Rumsfeld.
AMEC is -- or was -- a UK registered and based firm.
No, the real facts are damning enough, Ms. Dona K., which is why we should stick with them.
Geez, could those be the wing debris which just washed onshore on that Indian Ocean island?
Yes, they would fold up just like little origami swans and then float down the hudson river, out to sea, and back towards their homes in Japan. Unfortunately, some of them get unfolded along the way and wash up on beaches of strange little countires. I'm guessing that's what happened here. This is actually a wing from one of the planes that didn't hit the WTC.
That question, in connection with the absurd "no-planes" theory, was answered well by the late greaat Anthony Lawson, at http://www.salem-news.com/articles/august012011/no-planes_al.php. Here is a quote:
"However, the aluminium alloys used in the major structural components of modern aircraft have a tensile strength greater than construction steel, so the corollary is that the steel in the Towers would almost certainly not cut through the main spars or other substantial components of the aircraft, so something else had to give, and this excellent video goes a long way to explaining what did: WTC PLANES THRU STEEL WTC CONSTRUCTION Or, if you are pressed for time, use this link THE IMPACT AREA."
The links are to Youtube, owned by CIA-start-up Google, so it comes as no surprise that they have censored the videos, using their time-worn nonsensical reason. In brief, what the videos show is that the cladding columns were made of pieces bolted one on top of another, and the plane's impact caused the bolts to break way, opening the way for the plane.
those links are gone
Structually, a modern airplane IS the wing. The fuselage is just an add-on. Consider: the wing structure (left tip to right tip) supports the engines, supports the landing gear, supports the weight of the fuel stored in them and supports the rest of the mass of the aircraft when in the air, compression, tension, sheer and torque forces that are enormous. There is nothing flimsy about a Boeing wing.
Nine out of Ten. Airplane wings ARE flimsy in a limited sense; despite being very strong they are very flexible (i.e., they're intentionally not that stiff). I've seen computer simulations of how much bending they can take; it's unreal. And yes, I'm talking jetliners. In the simulation, both wings bent up so that the tips were approaching each other above the fuselage ... not quite touching, but maybe 80% of the way there.
EDIT: Just to be clear, they flex well for WIND loads. Frontal collisions are another story.
I am waiting for Alex Jones to claim that this control surface was moved from underground
tunnels near the Walmart on Diego Garcia to the coast of Reunion Island by Navy Seals
(attached to Craft International) as part of Jade Helm.
Wait for it.
Some screwy aspect about this development is bound to get him hyperventilating.
If you have a PHD in economics you can prove that
This guy lived down the road from me.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-zHHvo6U4lA
Now he is dead. Ran his car into a tree after church.
He was controlle demolition expert. ran his own company
Followed with a 20 minute pitch for OxyPowder, Child-Eaze, and Super Male Vitality.
ROFL
Jonestown is tasked with 2 things:
1] herding the conspiracy cats for tracking and possible collection;
2] gatekeeping for Israel.
And the Koran.
You know, just that fact alone, that a passport of an actual hijacker, who managed fly and manourvre a jet with zero experience or skills as a pilot, from a plane that slammed into a tower, pulverising and burning to crisp all occupants of said plane, including occupants of said tower, was somehow found in tact amongst the rubble of two skyscrapers that pulverised everything to dust in their ability to pancake down in a big fuck you to the laws of physics, miracously captured on film by five dancing Israelis, is a simple fact alone, that if investigated honestly and according to law, would expose the official 9/11 story for what it is.
Passports are made to withstand a large impact, a fire not so much, but passports are designed to remain undamaged in a crash to help with identification, of course the Russian cunts that shot the plane down have claimed they were planted by saying they look undamaged.
dup
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38BWD22,
have you a relation called DoChen?
Preamble: When I first read in the international news that both the Thai air traffic control and Vietnam’s air traffic control had both picked up faint radio transmissions of two pilots calling in a Mayday, stating that their “cockpit was disintegrating” – transmission in the vicinity where Malaysia Airlines MH370 was supposed to be, I began looking into what could have caused such a horrendous event?
Good-bye, Mr. Chips!
(Or, why that missing Malaysia Airlines MH370 is a really, really big deal --- besides the murder of 239 souls aboard.)
Onboard flight MH370 were twenty employees of Freescale Semiconductor, a major microchip producer, owner of major fabrication facilities (referred to as foundries in the industry).
Back in 2012, some researchers at an institute connected with Cambridge University discovered a backdoor, at the hardware level, in the Actel/Microsemi chip used for military purposes, designed and manufactured by the Microsemi Corporation. What the authors didn’t mention in their highly technical paper was that these chips are also to be found in ARINC avionics (ACARS: Aircraft Communications and Addressing Reporting System, formerly known as ARINC Communications and Addressing Report System --- plus other avionics communications systems), transponders and the black boxes (flight data recorders, cockpit voice recorders, crash recorders, etc.). And the 777’s fly-by-wire ARINC system’s network controller and databus connects to the ACARS, satellite uplink, transponders and black boxes.
Microsemi chips are produced at Freescale foundries (outsouced by TMC-Taiwan), as well as Freescale chips are also to be found in ARINC avionics, transponders along with a wide range of other industry applications. (The Microsemi chips are FPGAs, or Field Programmable Gate Arrays, a customizable chip which can be programmed at the hardware level, after leaving the factory.)
It is important to note that the owners of Freescale Semiconductors are the Blackstone Group, the major private equity/leveraged buyout (PE/LBO) firm, and the majority owner, and the Carlyle Group, another PE/LBO firm and a minority owner.
It is also important to note that ARINC (designer and manufacturer of major avionics systems (fly-by-wire) aboard Boeing and Airbus jets was until recently owned by the Carlyle Group, and a portion of ARINC still is, as they moved ARINC’s DoD division over to Booz Allen, the major government intelligence contractor (where Edward Snowden last worked in America), and also owned by the Carlyle Group.
Malaysia Airlines, which may have figured into it, was at that time partially owned by the hedge fund of Lord Jacob Rothschild, long an advisor to the aforementioned Blackstone Group.
The previously mentioned Microsemi Corporation, whose chips are backdoored, or compromised, is managed by James Peterson, CEO and board member. Peterson is the son of Peter G. Peterson, founding member of the Blackstone Group.
Both the process of chipping (purposely introducing defects into chips for cryptographic penetration) and backdoors in chips, dates back to the late 1960s.
The first major successful operation involving backdoored chips was supposed to have occurred in the 1980s, when an American industrial controls computer system (SCADA) was sold illegally through a Swiss firm to the Soviets, and resulted in a series of major explosions at their northern Baltic Sea naval installation (chips set to control maximum temperatures of fuels did the opposite).
(At least four of the seven Freescale chip fabrication engineers aboard the MH370 flight had written papers during college or grad school on hardware malware or FPGA Trojans.)
When a group is seeking to compromise, and therefore control, both the Internet and a wide spectrum of computer hardware applications (communications, transportation, industrial, financial, etc.) the process of chip access is crucial, and to do that covertly it must be done at the chip fabrication point.
Hence the use of, and subsequent disposal (murder), of those Freescale Semiconductor engineers aboard flight MH370.
It is also important to mention the universality of ARINC systems or ARINC-specification systems: onboard the Inmarsat satellites, used in communication with the satellites, air-to-ground and ground-to-air, earth station systems and terminals (VSAT, etc.), air traffic control systems, and on and on!
Below is the Youtube link to a video from a SAIConference, the expert from University College London (who spent years with the GCHQ), explains in general how to hack into a Boeing 777, but then ends with his opinion that it wasn’t hacked into --- unfortunately, he refrains from mentioning who the systems are designed and manufactured by, and also their ownership!
(And by the way, just how many Microsemi FPGAs are onboard the Boeing 777’s systems? 1,000!)
Very crucial data . . .
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uVWc9P4EiME
Suggested reading:
Breakthrough silicon scanning discovers backdoor in military chip (DRAFT of 05 March 2012):
https://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~sps32/Silicon_scan_draft.pdf
Financials:
The Blackstone Group was founded by David Rockefeller protégé, Peter G. Peterson with Rockefeller family money, who was expelled from MIT for cheating, and then taken under the wing of Rockefeller, who would be paramount in getting Peterson appointed to various positions, both private sector and political.
Blackstone’s co-founder was Stephen Schwarzman, who belonged to Skull & Bones at Yale, and was endorsed for that elite fraternity by George W. Bush. (Interesting to note that the origin of the Walker-Bush family money originates from the Rockefeller-owned company,Buckeye Steel Castings Company of Ohio.)
The majority stock holder in Microsemi is BlackRock, which was spun off from the Blackstone Group. Microsemi’s financial reporting agent is Rockefeller & Co. (Blackrock is the largest asset manager, or hedge fund, in existence, and is one of the Big Four, the four major investment firms which comprise the majority stock owners of the majority of major corporations in America and Europe: State Street Corporation, Vanguard Group, BlackRock and FMR or Fidelity.)
The Carlyle Group was founded with Mellon family money by Frank Carlucci, a retired CIA employee who was with the agency when President Kennedy was assassinated. The co-founder was David Rubenstein, the nephew of Jacob Rubenstein, who would later change his name when he became mobbed up to Jack Ruby, the murderer of alleged presidential assassin, Lee Oswald.
The Transfer Agent for Freescale Semiconductor is Mellon Investor Services, while their financial trustee is Bank of NY Mellon.
ARINC
http://www.nbaa.org/events/amc/2012/news/presentations/1030-Tue/NBAA2012-1030-SatCom-Buyers-Guide.pdf
http://www.nbaa.org/events/amc/2010/news/presentations/1019_tue/SATCOM/Thompson-ARINCDirectSatServices.pdf
http://www.citemaster.net/get/02baa57e-f4b3-11e3-b859-00163e009cc7/yeh98_777-fbw.pdf
http://www.rockwellcollins.com/Services_and_Support/Information_Management/ARINC_Aviation/globalink-air-ground/Inmarsat-services.aspx
http://www.arinc.com/news/press_releases/2013/10_21_13_arinc_direct_signs_agreement_w_honeywell.html
ARINC DirectSMSigns Agreement with Honeywell to ProvideInmarsat GX Aviation Ka-band Service and Custom Applications to the Business Aviation Industry.
https://www.dol.gov/ebsa/regs/fedreg/notices/2004020538.htm
ARINC also provides engineering services such as systems engineering, acquisition and program management, operational support, and life-cycle support for defense aviation systems, with offices located at every U.S. Air Force base.
Microsemi
http://files.shareholder.com/downloads/MSCC/2567075557x0x658020/F3056DCF-9622-4F91-BF0F-1388772756CF/
http://semiengineering.com/malaysia-airlines-flight-mh370-and-the-progress-of-technology/
http://www.militaryaerospace.com/articles/print/volume-24/issue-6/special-report/avionics-ahead-of-the-curve.html
http://commandercat.com/2013/04/hitb2013.html
There are currently two primary service providers of ground networks in the world (ARINC and SITA), although specific countries have implemented their own network with the help of either ARINC or SITA. Until recently, each area of the world was supported by a single service provider. This is changing, and both ARINC and SITA are competing and installing networks that cover the same regions
https://globusmax.wordpress.com/2015/03/21/the-brains-of-a-boeing-777-simple-and-complex/
The ARINC 629 is the main mission critical nervous system of the plane, however, and for good reason as it is quite ingenious. A single twisted pair of wires up to 100 meters long can connect up to 120 LRUs. This simplifies plane wiring by using a single communications bus or wire. If you’re familiar with a typical office wired LAN, there is a cable going to each computer or device on the LAN from a router – lots of wires. The bus is two-way, and any LRU could talk to any other if they know the language, and every LRU can listen to all of the conversations. Connected LRUs politely wait their turn to talk following a set timing protocol. There is no central point of failure as there can be with a router. If one LRU goes down, the others can still talk. Except for redundant control timers to allow each LRU to decide when it’s time to talk, there is no control, and it is robust to failure.
http://www.icao.int/APAC/Meetings/2013_FIT_Asia2_RASMAG18/10.%20ICAO-ATC%20Datalink%20on%20Boeing%20Airplanes.pdf
ARINC 717 digital flight data acquisition unit (DFDAU)
http://mh370.mot.gov.my/download/FactualInformation.pdf
The international search for missing flight MH 370 showed that Washington was able to track the aircraft well beyond what it has admitted so far and that it waited a week before revealing what it knew. The search also showed that China lacks the refuelling ports to deploy its navy over such a large area. But beyond the news item and the respective strategic capabilities that it brought to light, this enigmatic disappearance has made at least some people happy: Blackstone and Jacob Rothschild.
http://www.voltairenet.org/article183486.html
Claim: Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 was made to disappear so one party could gain control of a multiply-owned patent.
FALSE
http://www.snopes.com/politics/conspiracy/malaysiapatent.asp
Just b/c snopes says it is false doesn't prove it false of course, and something not entirely unrelated to that theory may have been a co-motivation.
I won't hold my breath waiting to be certain.
I would classify that entire "Kinesis micro-controller" ploy as pure false flag/psy op misinformation, to discredit any real information which came out later casting a negative light on Blackstone Group, Carlyle Group and Microsemi (James Peterson).
The entire charade, the so-called tontine arrangement, which never occurs in industry regarding patents, and suggesting any great value to an incremental improvement doesn't warrant any real attention whatsoever!
"When a group is seeking to compromise, and therefore control, both the Internet and a wide spectrum of computer hardware applications (communications, transportation, industrial, financial, etc.) the process of chip access is crucial, and to do that covertly it must be done at the chip fabrication point."
"... at the chip fabrication point". Methinks you have a laughable knowledge of chip manufacturing! Backdoors would be possible, but they would have to be engineered in. By the engineers. Do a little research on chip manufacturing (Hint: It's complicated and done just that way for reasons that would be obvious if you knew what you were talking about). Editing at the mask level (the mask is like a negative in photography -- but one or more per wafer layer) to obtain a new function is ludicrous.
Obviously, you are the one who didn't read my comments, and are ignorant of chip manufacturing. The two points it would be inserted from the getgo are at the engineerning stage and/or at the chip fabrication point.
Now go back and read (evidently for the first time) what I mentioned about the chip fabrication engineers onboard 370.
Then re-read it, given your short attention span. Editing at the mask level -- given the SCADA systems' present stage, is most definitely not ludicrous --- have you ever even come in contact with any fabs lately?
s_d
thank you. you're one of the reasons ZH is beyond compare.
MH370 is probably sitting next to Amelia Earhardt.
Apologies for the time needed to locate it . . .
the CIA was delayed in moving the wreckage.
There is no way it takes a year to find out what happened to the other one.
The best lies are those never spoken.
It was blown out of the sky by the Ukraine Kiev junta.
Is there a suicide note attached
No suicide note but a perfectly preserved passport was found under the wing.
Kind of interesting that Diego Garcia suddenly starts appearing on maps again.
Good catch! Yes indeed. This plane would have light up radars all over Diego Garcia on it's flight south west. The USA takes this island very seriously, it is the lynch pin of naval and airpower in the Indian ocean extending into Pakistan and India. Diego Garcia is certain to have tracked the flight, as are US satellites. There is 0% probability of this being a mystery to US military intelligence, the CIA and the Five Eye's Nations. The same can be said for MH-17. To call that a mystery is to throw sanity out the door, there is 0% the USA military intelligence, CIA and Five Eye's nations do not know precisely what happened to MH-17.
We must then ask the question, "They know the facts, but remain dead silent. This begs the question, Why?"
Or Diego Garcia doesn't have someone watching SPY radar 24 hours a day.
Or, the plane went down way before the Diego Garcia radar would have noted it as anything out of the ordinary.
An island in the midlde of nowhere. Hundreds of men and no women. The dishes are not radar systems - they are internet links for downloading porn.
Ditto on the great catch, Diego's over-the-horizon-up-to-outer-space radar should have picked it up.
Interesting place to search for wreckage...
Flew right on by and nodody saw a thing.
Craigslist/Vietnam ad: Slightly used Boeing 777-300 for sale. Asking for $15,000,000 USD, or best offer (this includes all the snacks in the plane). Not much fuel in the plane at the moment, but it's in great flying condition. ABSOLUTELY NO JOY RIDES! SOLD AS--IS. NO TRADES OR RETURNS. ALL DEALS ARE FINAL.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zxGBL7Tlyj0
ocean currents indian ocean map
http://moodle.deblinsko.org/course/view.php?id=159
http://msi.nga.mil/MSISiteContent/StaticFiles/NAV_PUBS/APN/Chapt-32.pdf
Good information Jack
Indeed! That information shows clearly the wreckage path of the plane if it was knocked down near the Diego Garica Air and Naval bases. A year or more at sea in a slow moving surface current with winds also playing on it? Sure, it could meander around until landing just where found!
I'm no oceanographer but those maps appear to blow a huge hole in the "southern route" theory that the investigators stubbornly clung to for months, wasting billions of taxpayer money in the process.
Punk ass coverup busted!
It's likely a full break up and it'll be scattered wreckage. The problem is that still leave a very big area to search......
The currents are somewhat consistant. You will find a trail of debris along that path.
What was that piece made of?
http://science-in-news.blogspot.com/2012/09/carbon-fibrea-new-era-in-air...
Research...
http://www.reunionisland.fr/cyclones.html
This story gets a lot more credible then:
MH370: Maldives Islanders Insist They Witnessed 'Low Flying' Missing Malaysia Airlines FlightIndeed in the immediate aftermath, it was reported that several Maldives islanders witnessed a “low-flying jumbo jet” on the day the aircraft disappeared, with some commenting on its distinctive red and blue livery - the colours of Malaysia Airlines.
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2015/04/04/mh370-maldives-islanders-low-...
Right on the money! Another piece is coming together.
yeah, the poor bastard flew that thing too close to Diego Garcia and the troops there blew the bitchez out of the sky.
They shouldn't be surprised when a crate of nail guns arrives at the airport.
Another distraction in the media, what freedoms are we going to lose or what bad laws against the citizens will be passed by CONgress?
perfect night to annex more of the west bank as Anderson Pooper and Berny Kerik blabber about this "news"...
"Hello, Anderson Cooper here. As you can see, I'm taking it up the ass by a Mossad Operative. Tonight, 'Why the Palestinians Have no Rights." We'll be right back after this orgasm."
@ Colonel,
Ask & he shall receive:
In a radical attack on the due-process rights of Americans that received virtually no media attention, the Republican-controlled House of Representatives voted to give the Obama administration the unilateral power to strip you of your passport and right to travel without a trial or even criminal charges. The scheme does not even include a way to challenge your status as a non-person involuntarily trapped inside U.S. borders on orders from the secretary of state. Lawmakers, some of whom could themselves be caught in the dragnet along with myriad administration officials, praised the effort as a way to stop alleged terrorists from travelling. But critics said it was yet another attack on the fundamental rights of Americans, such as due-process protections, and that it must be resisted.
http://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/congress/item/21334-lawmakers-vote-...
I'm sure all those dual passport holders will be unaffected.
Yup. We are unaffected.
Membership has it's privileges. ;)
Does yours happen to be to Israel like most of our CONgress"men".
It is a CON. These Criminals are actually The Board of Trustees via The Banking Emergency Act of 1933 for the Criminal Fraud entity aka the UNITED STATES, CORP. INC. Guess who its Criminal Fraud CEO is?
Janet Felon? Lloyd Bankfiend?
Gee, when are the Republicans gonna break out the NAZI armbands?
I mean, it's sorta obvious at this point....
Can't wait to NOT hear about this from Pawn Vanity and Rush "Pill Head" Limbaugh.
Headline should read Malaysia Airlines Flight MH370 Wreckage POSSIBLY found. I'd even take PROBABLY.
I'm flexible. I bend with a lot because I understand Opinion and Perspective. I love Tyler(s). BUT GET THE FACTS RIGHT.
Click-bait will not be denied.
So when is Malaysia goiing to release the interview of the captains ex-wife, or are they still "respecting her privacy"?
Why don't you release it here on ZH for all to hear?
I would if there had been one to release.
http://www.inquisitr.com/1319442/malaysia-airlines-flight-mh370-wife/
There was this:
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2014/03/breaking-after-two-weeks-malaysi...
they were separated so he decided to go get himself some of them famous allah virgins he heard so many good things about... and took a few hundred folks with him.
MH370...an accident? ;-)
There's a great episode of the Blacklist...first season...where the plot revolves around a hired assasin that "governments" don't even know about (the "Blacklist" the James Spader character has is loaded with criminals 'so good" no one who isn't a criminal knows about them).
This assasin hides his killings within larger wrecks and "disasters" that otherwise seem to be random...the Spader character ("Red") notes that there are no big accidents in an episode. Nothing happens randomly. And I put "governments" in quotes because the show is loaded with showing government corruption..."Red" also says in a first season episode, pointing out the White House, "that people think the person living runs things...they don't run anything...corporations and criminals run the world". Later on he notes Chernobyl, oil spills, all of that...corporate espionage not accidents. Of course many of the "criminals" in the show are politicans and government workers...hell the head of the "Cabal" (the main criminal organization) is the head of the CIA.
Entertaining show...and I don't watch much TV. I happened to catch a couple episodes on a flight back from S. Am a few months ago and got hooked.
That episode:
If you're interested...it's on Netflix. I'm watching the first season slowly now and happened on to that one last night.
Thanks for the tip! I don't watch TV and live outside of the U.S., so I'm mostly cut-off from 'what's on TV'.
A related series is "Dollhouse".
The show revolves around a corporation running numerous highly illegal underground establishments (known as "Dollhouses") around the globe that program individuals referred to as Actives (or Dolls). Actives have had their original memories wiped clean, and exists in a childlike blank state until programmed via the insertion of new memories with temporary personalities and skills needed for each mission.
Hired by the wealthy, powerful and connected, the Actives don't just perform their hired roles, they wholly become - with mind, personality and physiology - whomever the client wants or needs them to be. After each engagement, the Actives return to the mysterious Dollhouse where their thoughts, feelings, experiences and knowledge [of the mission] are erased.
You want a plane crash that went down the memory hole?
How about JFK Jr's plane taking a sudden nosedive into the Atlantic and "pilot error" being declared the cause (by the Pentagon no less) before the bodies were even cold.
Since when does the Pentagon rule on civilian small plane crashes anyway?
They do not. The National Transportation Safety Board has jurisdiction and releases it's findings as definitive, in a legal sense.
What about the CIA animation of "what happened" to TWA flight 800??
Now there's a doozy!!
The Pentagon rules on civilian crashes that involve members of The American Royalty.
I'm surprised that you didn't know that.
Looks like Mossad was out dumping parts from the twin plane.
Scene evidence, scrap it.
http://911research.wtc7.net/wtc/groundzero/cleanup.html
Mayor Bloomberg a former engineering student said this?
"If you want to take a look at the construction methods and the design, that's in this day and age what computers do. Just looking at a piece of metal generally doesn't tell you anything."
The primary thing you need when performing a failure analysis is the MATERIAL THAT FAILED!
What an asshole. No wonder why Bloomberg had to settle for a carrer in politics.
Why Is a Twin of the Missing MH370 in a Hangar in Israel?
http://www.abeldanger.net/2014/04/why-is-twin-of-missing-mh370-in-hangar...
State of Israel Charged for “Crime of Genocide and War Crimes”, Kuala Lumpur Tribunal
http://www.globalresearch.ca/state-of-israel-charged-for-crime-of-genoci...
Since declaring the Tribunal, two MH planes have gone down under great mystery. There is a school of thought, with some evidence, that the Ukrainian Air Force SU-25 that downed MH-17 carried two israeli air to air missiles, and may have been acting on orders of a Jewish Israeli Oligarch. Damage that appears to be 30MM cannon shelling, has been argued to be shrapnel damage of an Israeli Air to Air missile, very distinct from Russian and USA supplied air to air missile warheads.
Revenge in Judaism
https://divreimahamal.wordpress.com/2013/04/12/revenge-in-judaism/
Does Jewish Law Justify Killing Civilians?
www.loonwatch.com/2011/10/does-jewish-law-justify-killing-civilians/
#2 Collective Punishment is Kosher (I)
www.loonwatch.com/2011/10/the-top-five-ways-jewish-law-justifies-killing...
The Causes of Hostility Toward Jews: A Historical Overview
http://holywar.org/jewishtr/02hos.htm
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Jack - there's no doubt about it.
And bear in mind - the Malaysian court was absolutely justified - there is zero moral basis for "revenge" here. This is Israel surreptitiously attacking innocent people because their nation state found Israel guilty of war crimes.
There's also no doubt about repeated and deliberate Israeli war crimes and support for Al Qaeda and ISIS
All part of the plan:
http://www.historycommons.org/context.jsp?item=western_support_for_islam...
http://www.aishdas.org/avodah/faxes/mmOnNachriim.pdf
you know - *I* did not write the racist, violent, and vile things in Jewish "sacred" texts.
Jews did.
Of course, it would never enter the mind of an Israel Firster or Ziociopath to say "hey - there is some fucked up shit in our religion that has impacted our worldview and resulted in a cycle of resentment and hate and antisemitism, maybe we should disclaim the racism and xenophobia and supremacism"
Nope.
Instead, they just cry and shit their pants and acgtually try to claim it is "jew hate" to discuss the ....wait for it.... hatred of non-Jews in Jewish texts.
It's how you get a Chief Sephardic rabbi and respected Hasidic rabbi sayign nakedly racist shit.
But Jewish Privilege means Jews never have to apologize for their racism, hate, or war crimes.
Why is the US Honoring a Racist Rabbi?
http://www.counterpunch.org/2014/04/07/why-is-the-us-honoring-a-racist-r...
Largest Funeral in Israeli History for Gentile-Hating Former Chief Rabbi who said that “Non-Jews Exist to Serve Jews”
http://newobserveronline.com/largest-funeral-in-israeli-history-for-gent...
cute.
And yet still no flaoting bodies?
The bodies are too busy sending Phantom facebook posts...
Likely planted there...
I don't believe anything anymore!
Washed up??? looks like its on top of a hill in a field.
So, track back the ocean currents for a year, and this could just be industrial waste from Seattle.
Explain all the dead Asians soaked in Formaldehyde from the wreckage in Ukraine. When their personal effects and electronics were inspected, there were no pictures newer than a year in their phones and cameras. Why little or no blood?
Part of the zio psyop that originally had the twin plane that was parked in Tel Aviv as part of the script.
How do you talk with people so shameless in their hypocrisy, dissembling, and racism, and hyperethnocentrism?
Let's assume it is a minority, overall, of Israelis, or Jews, or Zionists - why is that minority of a minority allowed such power over the earth?
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How Racism Drives the Zeal to Destroy Iran and Maintain Global Hegemony
http://www.alternet.org/world/racism-drives-zeal-destroy-iran-and-mainta...
Israel’s High Schools Bastions Of Racism, New Israeli Book Claims
http://failedmessiah.typepad.com/failed_messiahcom/2014/08/israels-high-...
How Israel Covers Up Its Ugly Racial Holy War
http://www.alternet.org/world/how-israel-covers-its-ugly-racial-holy-war
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‘How to kill goyim and influence people’
http://mondoweiss.net/2010/08/how-to-kill-goyim-and-influence-people
http://www.historycommons.org/timeline.jsp?timeline=complete_911_timelin...
Look, two hoods talking to each other!
Edit: Look at their avatars!
MsCreant= shit for brains imbecile. Probably American,
Could you say that again?
MsCreant= shit for brains imbecile. Probably American,
Awwww! LOL!
I guess you don't get my joke?
Look. At. Their. Avatars. They both wear hoods.
whoah!
absolutely no need for that at all - just an observation.
imho you ought to apologize to her, dude.
Israel ZioNazis had lots of motive to disappear both MH370 and MH17.
Why? Because Malaysia has a War Crimes Trinbunal a couple of years ago and found Israel guilty.
The delicate genius: "why is that minority of a minority allowed such power over the earth?"
They own the money and the rights to print from nothing... it's easy. Everything after that just falls into place nicely.
....hmmm, musta hit a raw nerve there, hugh?
LOL.
I'm sure that hydrologists will weigh-in over the coming days, however I don't know that a piece of wing in Reunion rules out the Australian crash site;
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d5/Indian_Ocean_Gyre.png
Putin did it.
George Bush's fault. That would be the brain dead one.
The police DID interview a child who claimed to have seen a plane in Madagascar, but was ruled out.
Is this article because MH-17 was actually MH-370?
http://humansarefree.com/2014/07/busted-mh-17-was-in-fact-lost-flight-mh...
Sounds like a fact-theory, not a conspiracy-theory?
quite a possibility... flew it to DG, they dispatched the passengers then got 'er all ready for a crash in the Ukraine
They had plenty of time to plant it.
I could have planted 50 acres in 16 months.
With an ox cart.
Hacked Emails Prove arch-Zionist Ihor Kolomoisky is Behind MH17 Hoax
http://nodisinfo.com/hacked-emails-prove-zionist-ihor-kolomoiskly-mh17/
Zionist Oligarchs Behind the Malaysian Airlines Crash Hoax
http://nodisinfo.com/zionist-jews-behind-mh17-crash-catastrophe/
Flight MH-17 Likely Shot Down By Kolomoisky NATO Coordination: Russia Issues Arrest Warrant For Ukrainian Oligarch Kolomoisky.
http://politicalvelcraft.org/2014/07/23/flight-mh17-likely-shot-down-by-...
The Downing of MH17 – Is Israel Involved?
http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/?p=102261
ISRAEL'S STRATEGY REVEALED
http://aanirfan.blogspot.com/2014/07/israels-strategy-revealed.html?m=1
The Zionist Criminal Network
http://www.bollyn.com/the-zionist-criminal-network/
What most fucknuts like Monetas here never discuss is MOTIVE. His one brain cell is MUSH.
He is one of those goddam shit for brains morons who has to make EVERYTHING a ''lib vs cons''' thing. Braindead idiot.
Flown to diego de garcia for ..... reasons.
After Done with whatever, Fly it southwest let it crash in ocean......
Hey, Latina Lover .... Russia is expected to veto UN investigation .... of Ukrainian shoot down .... remember all the blather around here ?
You mean the investigation of the incident where the most likely cuplrit confiscated ATC tapes and has a veto over which evidence is released?
No, he means the investigation of the incident where nearly everybody on the planet already knows what happened.
It's a joke that one of the prime suspects in the shootdown of MH17 is one of the panel of "judges" who will decide who is guilty and at the same time will have this power of veto over any evidence that might show themselves as suspect. Pftttt!!! Who with an IQ above room temperature can't smell a set-up here?!
Maybe plane was nose dived into Indian ocean .... to not leave much of a trail of crumbs .... to confuse leftist fuck nut conspiracy theorists ? LOL
Google ''33 Conspiracies that turned out to be true''. Get back to me after reading.
Fuck nuts? we don't want to hear about your family, asswipe
Fuck nuts? That's what nuts are for.
Pro tip: melons.
Not that I have any personal knowledge of that. Maybe. Perhaps...
So the pilot had a particular interest in confusing whatever a "leftist fuck nut conspiracy theorist" is?
That's...an..."interesting"...obsession...by...the...pilot...and...an..."interesting"...angle...presented...by...you.
I can just imagine the elated atmosphere at CNN right now...
"It’s been 19 days since Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 went missing, and no one is more aware of that than viewers of CNN. The network’s obsessive, downright fanatical coverage of the aircraft’s mysterious disappearance has attracted no shortage of derision on social media and elsewhere."
"CNN's coverage of Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 has reached such astounding stupidity in the past five weeks that it accomplished something previously unimaginable: uniting Bill O’Reilly and Rachel Maddow on the same side of an issue."
http://crooksandliars.com/cltv/2014/04/stewart-slams-cnn-obsession-mh370 The 4:25 mark in this video is amazing.
http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2014/04/cnns-9-most-deplorable-flig...
I suspect someone moved Madagascar there just to mislead us.
Great film.
The Obama Administration’s Scandalous Stance on Slavery
http://www.thefiscaltimes.com/Columns/2015/07/10/Why-Obama-White-House-Wants-Cover-SlaverySNAP!
Got the answer to MH17 as well by looks of things.
Yep.
The Ukrainians dun it.
http://fortruss.blogspot.co.uk/2015/07/ukrainian-military-acknowledges-i...
By accident - And that does look possible too.
Any expert opinions on this story?
Kiev Ukranian NeoNazis. not Eastern Ukrianians
Kolomeisky the Zionist Jew oligarch who runs his own private army
Israel missiles shot it down.
My link has excellent credentials - Fort Russ.
Israeli missiles are one theory, certainly.
But this story actually fits the scenario pretty well.
I won't argue with you but I suggest that looking at its source, Novorussia and Russia itself could be taking this Ukraine intel pretty seriously.
The ATC tape just disappeared and no one wants to produce it. The Spanish controller who was interviewed disappeared.
The ATC tape just disappeared and no one wants to produce it. The Spanish controller who was interviewed disappeared.
Reently released details of several intercepted phone calls involving a CIA agent (or officer?) in Ukraine discussing the downing of MH17.
https://z5h64q92x9.net/proxy_u/ru-en.en/www.e-news.su/politics/68223-age...
Quick, open up the memory hole, this one is going to take up a lot of space
Boeing 777 is fly-by-wire and can take-off, fly and land by remote control.
same with Jeeps
Virtually any aircraft can be rigged for that. B767/757 platform being the easiest. 3 avonices boxes under flight deck in the avionics bay.
Do NOT have to be fly by wire.
CIA just threw CNN a bone by thowing some "wreckage" in the water...
Maybe. Alternatively, MH370 is parked in the last hanger on Diego Garcia, right next to the umarked mass grave.
It's not implausible that ocean currents carried it there. An airplane wing is designed to travel through fluid (in a physics sense, air is fluid). A wing (or fragment) of all things would be expected to be carried thusly. Accordingly, it wouldn't be a surprise to see more parts scattered around the coastlines of the Indian ocean. Generalizing about the region's inhabitants, they could be part of a boat or a house already.
Or a Houseboat.
The mystery is finally solved, hooray!
Run along now, AmeriKa, back to playing with your iCrap...