"It May Come To A Military Coup": Ukraine's "Nazis" Threaten To Overthrow Government

Tyler Durden's picture

"It may come to a military coup."

That rather ominous assessment of the political situation in Ukraine comes courtesy of a Right Sector fighter who spoke to FT last week. 

Like Saint Mary (the militia which recently pledged to create a "Christian Taliban" and insists that "Moscow must burn"), The Right Sector is one of the many volunteer battalions fighting to rout the Russian-backed separatists operating in eastern Ukraine. 

As discussed here on Sunday by Justin Raimondo, "the Right Sector and allied far-rightist militias are the core of [Kiev’s] military operation against the east. Right Sector provided the muscle of the Maidan revolution, standing in the front lines against the widely feared Berkut special forces loyal to Yanukovych. If these thugs must be reined in, then the success of the 'anti-terrorist' campaign is doubtful: yet Kiev is increasingly unwilling to pay the high price of appeasing their increasingly troublesome Praetorians."

To let FT tell it, these "troublesome Praetorians" may be set to overthrow the government in what Right Sector leader Dmytro Yarosh calls a "new phase of the Ukrainian revolution."

The problem, as the battalion leaders see it, is that the revolution simply didn’t usher in much change, and that's primary due to the fact that all of the "patriots" got sidetracked by defending the country from a Kremlin-assisted uprising. "The (Maidan) revolution was interrupted by the aggression (in the east) and the patriots left Maidan and went to the east to protect Ukraine. Only 10 percent of people in positions of power are new; the rest are all the same, pursuing the same schemes they always did," Serhiy Melnychuk, an MP and volunteer battalion founder recently told Reuters

But in some ways, Melnychuk exemplifies why the volunteer militias and their agenda are so dangerous. "The Aidar Battalion has been accused by Amnesty International of committing war crimes [and its leader] member of parliament Serhiy Melnychuk has been stripped of immunity from prosecution and charged with kidnapping, issuing threats, and operating a criminal gang," Raimondo notes.

Among the volunteer contingents, Right Sector stands out and indeed, its fighters are revered by some soldiers in the regular Ukrainian army. Here’s FT:

The troops are members of Right Sector, the far-right group that evolved from among the most militant wing of the protesters who toppled Viktor Yanukovich, the country’s pro-Russian president, in its pro-democracy revolution last year.

 

But fears are growing that Right Sector — the only major volunteer battalion Kiev has not yet managed to bring under regular army control — could turn its fire on the new government itself.

 

Dmytro Yarosh, Right Sector’s leader, called late last month for a nationwide no-confidence referendum in President Petro Poroshenko. He was addressing a rally in Kiev of up to 5,000 Right Sector activists, angry over what they say is the government’s slow progress in fighting corruption and excessive concessions to Moscow as it attempts to reach a settlement over eastern Ukraine.

 


 

And earlier last month, two people were left dead in a shootout between off-duty Right Sector fighters and police near Ukraine’s previously peaceful western border — 1,500km away from the eastern conflict. The group claimed it was acting to destroy an illicit cross-border cigarette trade. Some observers have suggested Right Sector was actually trying to take it over.

 

Russian officials and media have long demonised Right Sector as neo-Nazis who, they claim, were the real driving force behind Ukraine’s revolution. Moscow media’s obsession led some Ukrainian officials to suggest privately that Right Sector might have been penetrated by Russian intelligence as a subversive "project" aimed at undermining the government.

 

Popular support for the group remains low, although a poll found it had risen from 1.8 per cent last October to 5.4 per cent by July.

 

Yet as Mr Umland notes, the bravery shown in the east Ukraine conflict by the Right Sector battalion has earned it the esteem of many regular soldiers — posing a dilemma for Kiev.


While it's as yet unclear whether the referendum call will garner enough support to further embolden Right Sector as it ponders a military coup, it's certainly worth noting that Ukraine appears to be headed for a similar fate as that which has befallen many a state in the wake of US-supported "deomcratic revolutions." In short, it almost never ends well and on that note, we'll close with the following quote from a Right Sector "instructor" who spoke to FT:

"Having lived in [western] Europe, I realise that they often confuse Nazism with nationalism, which for us Ukrainians is more akin to patriotism. It’s not about considering your own ethnic group as superior, but being proud of it, and of defending your country."

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Meat Hammer's picture

What is this capitalism you speak of?  I have never seen it.

Winston Churchill's picture

A transient 19th century thing.

The 20th was the age of fascism.

Not exactly sure what the 21st age should be called.Orwellism or Huxleyism or just Horwellism.

FreedomGuy's picture

Did you pass economics and/or poli-sci? Didn't think so.

Be sure to vote twice for Hillary.

Volkodav's picture

better failed, cos nothing learned, read the wrong books...

never broke it down, nor named the names...but trained you into system

 

 

FreedomGuy's picture

Try "The Road to Serfdom" by Friedrich Hayek and "Capitalism and Freedom" by Milton Friedman for a start. Then get back to me on how they are all wrong. I presume you've read "The General Theory" by Keynes and "The Communist Manifesto" by Marx and Engels.

Miffed Microbiologist's picture

Actually I think communism has more in common with fascism.In both communism and fascism, individual choice or preference matter less than society as a whole. In communism, religion and private property are both abolished, the government controls all labor and wealth, and individual choices such as one's job or education tend to be dictated by the government. While private property is permitted in fascism, most other choices are also controlled to increase the strength of the state.

Miffed

Volkodav's picture

finance capitalism made marxism communism

there was large money invested

 

wobblie's picture

That's true. It was to push Europe into the US camp. Thus Wall St. funded the Bolshies.

 

Capitalism doesn't care about ideology.

wobblie's picture

Fascism is an appeal to both capitalism and socialism while being a tool of capitalism.

Most of the rich did fine under fascism. Many big companies profited greatly from the Nazis.

FreedomGuy's picture

Not even close. Capitalism is a voluntary exchange of goods and services. Fascism is control of all things. The State will decide how much freedom their is. Fascism allows some market activity unlike Communism, which in it's supreme arrogance seizes all means of production.

Capitalism and any forms of socialism are enemies. However, smarter socialists know they need the power of market activity. In 2015 the world understands the price of unfettered statism.

Fascism simply cuts favors for it's friends in industry. What countries does that sound like, today?

FreedomGuy's picture

Fascism and Communism are cousins. It was National Socialists versus Soviet Socialist. The proper name of the Nazi's was "National Socialist German Workers' Party". Mussolini was one of the top leaders in the Italian Socialist party before moving to the National Fascist party.

The are both "statist" parties where the State is supreme. Here is a good quotation from Mussolini:

"The keystone of the Fascist doctrine is its conception of the State, of its essence, its functions, and its aims. For Fascism the State is absolute, individuals and groups relative."
Communists and fascists would both agree on the supremacy of the State. The both have a single party system with an autocratic ruler at the tope. The State is supreme in both. The State owns and/or controls all people for the collective(ist) good of the people which is the same as the good of the State. It is even directive is interpreting virtue and other moral issues. The only difference between the two is the Communist will actually attempt full state control of industries. The fascist will have some semblance of markets but control all things through regulation, including labor. Private property in the fascist state is a sort of relative term. If the State needed it, it would get it. Economically, most people equate Western government with fascism. The State has the ability to assert full control of any endeavor if it is deemd beneficial to the state or collective population. There are no practical limits. The State, like fascists closely allies with selected and favored private industries as well. It could be Krupps (arms maker) or J.P. Morgan, but the State decides. The two ideologies were usually enemies the same way monarchs were enemies. It is not because their ideologies are very far apart. It is because they are competitors to control the throne/state.
booboo's picture

I don't suppose that if they just confiscated one sides weapons that everyone would give up and be friends. I'm pretty sure that would work because so many people say it would prevent gun death

Freddie's picture

These Azov or Right Sector cowards are never at the front.  They hide behind the battle lines. 

They would rather murder fellow Christian Ukrainians then take out their Zoligarch dual shit-i-ZZen overlords. 

Clueless cowardly morons.  Even the EU scum do not want this Right Sector/Azov vermin.

Youri Carma's picture

Time for a 'Night of the Long Knives'.

Mike Honcho's picture

So your militia wants to take on Moscow?  Good luck.

gwar5's picture

I'm a little tired of the word "Nazi" being thrown around and used as a cudgel to discredit anybody and everybody who is not an fellow traveler, aka authoritarian socialist/fascist like the EU.

'Nazi' is very specific -- 'national socialist workers party', mixing nationalism + socialism/fascism with some race theory mixed in for good measure as a way to demonize the opposition so it's easier to justify killing them. Socialists insidiously justify killing people for the 'greater good' of the collective, like Obamacare does. 

booboo's picture

I'm pretty sure you need a Hitler mustache a Gay Propaganda head a fat man in charge of the Air Force and a Jewish banker for the Nazi throw down.

datura's picture

well, these people are flying swastikas and even some particular symbols from the old German Waffen SS! So how would you like to call them? They admire Hitler and NSDAP. They are not just nationalists. Besides, like the old Nazis, they hate Russians and consider them subhumans. They would like to kill all the Eastern Ukrainians, who speak Russian. So, how would you like to call people, who have such symbols and openly call for a genocide??? 

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The Delicate Genius (not verified) Aug 3, 2015 2:28 PM

tough to know who to root against the hardest in Kiev - the Zioligarchs, the US/NATO puppets, or the bona fide street nazis.

How about the United States just stop fucking around in Ivan's backyard?

In a saner world, the Ukrainians could have had an association agreement with the EU to allow for more trade and movement, while retaining a relationship with Russia.

Putin proposed this as an option, just as he proposed 'talks' to discuss some sort of autonomy for novorussiya within ukraine.... the US/NATO was not interested.

I'm not saying Putin is some saint or anything - but it's been largely Russia that has kept a lid on this thing.

This is squarely the fault and responsibility of the American Deep State - and it is too bad the military and spooks have let the Kagans and Nuland's and Brzenskis hijack our country's power for their needless warmongering fuckery.

Why haven't the Ukie Banderites figured out that their enemy isnt their russian speaking countrymen or russia so much as it is the neocons and other American/British militarists?

What Neocons Want from Ukraine Crisis
https://consortiumnews.com/2014/03/02/what-neocons-want-from-ukraine-cri...

Neocons and the Ukraine Coup
http://readersupportednews.org/opinion2/277-75/22253-neocons-and-the-ukr...

Obama, the Neo-Cons and Liberal Interventionists
http://portside.org/2014-08-27/obama-neo-cons-and-liberal-interventionists

Are there no loyal America-Firsters in the deep recesses of the secret government?

Seriously?

The Delicate Genius's picture
The Delicate Genius (not verified) The Delicate Genius Aug 3, 2015 4:41 PM

Poroshenko Claims Putin May Attack Baltic States, Estonia Disagrees

http://sputniknews.com/europe/20150803/1025358811.html

rejected's picture

Nazi's overthrowing Nazi's. Sweet.

So, how long befoer the Uke's figure out they've been had?

smacker's picture

"Nazi's overthrowing Nazi's. Sweet."

 

Fascinating comment :-)

markar's picture

Moar cookies should fix this

Karl von Bahnhof's picture

Haha.. Their bravery killing children, women and shooting artillery at hospitals and civilian houses. Bravery. Running away when traktorists and miners from Donetsk saved their homes and their loved ones, leaving poor ukrainian conscripts to die in Debaltsevo without mercy. Brave boys these right sector scum.

Freddie's picture

 

Popular support for the group remains low, although a poll found it had risen from 1.8 per cent last October to 5.4 per cent by July.

Wow.  They are hated more than CON-GresZ, Hillary and the Jebster.

The Delicate Genius's picture
The Delicate Genius (not verified) Aug 3, 2015 2:36 PM

Why Russia Shut Down NED Fronts
July 30, 2015

Exclusive: The neocon-flagship Washington Post fired a propaganda broadside at President Putin for shutting down the Russian activities of the National Endowment for Democracy, but left out key facts like NED’s U.S. government funding, its quasi-CIA role, and its plans for regime change in Moscow, writes Robert Parry.

https://consortiumnews.com/2015/07/30/why-russia-shut-down-ned-fronts/

nyse's picture

What summer camp is that in the vid?

IndianaJohn's picture

Tough guys prancing around in their underpants will impress few.

Karl von Bahnhof's picture

When you think about it my friends, victory of Novorossian people over this scum, supported by richest and mightiest force on this poor planet is biggest story of this century! Think about this my friends, because they show that it is possible!

Freddie's picture

I have huge respect for the people of Donbas/Lughansk aka DPR and LPR plus the Syrians and Syrian military.

You never hear a word in the corrupt western media about their epic struggle for survival. 

Karl von Bahnhof's picture

Guess why Freddie.

But Caitlyn, he z a hero!
/cutout dick

newsoutlet's picture
newsoutlet (not verified) Aug 3, 2015 3:15 PM

ZH as putin regime propaganda asset is boiling again same soup on this same topic regarding events in Ukraine using same ingredients: Nazis, Fascists, coup, etc.

So again here is my reply to that.

Ukraine was a satellite state for putin regime. That means it suffers great deal of same problems as in Russia under putin regime. The main problem is corruption at all levels and deep in every citizen way of thinking. It’s hard to get out if it is so rooted still from USSR times. So what happened here is that there where corrupt border patrol personal and local police officers who smuggled from Russia illegal weapons, alcohol, drugs, etc. As local authorities responsible from stopping such crime where corrupt (now they are fired from their job) didn’t do nothing – those militia took this situation in their own hands. It’s not how it should be done under normal situation but it was only thing they could do to stop coming those drugs and weapons from Russian side. Than when they turned weapons against local authorities who where corrupt – things went out of hand quickly but in the end they gave up them self and laid down arms. Of course putin regime propaganda made a great deal of this and I see that Zero Hedge as putin regime asset continues to invest in this story to twisted as loony as it can get.

I won’t go down to each of the lie in this article – because it would be like anyone saying to you “You are a donkey” and then you have to invest time to prove it you are not a donkey – that’s just idiotic and was of time.

But when you think about Ukraine than know these facts:

1.) Ukraine had free democratic parliament and presidential elections (far right sector got super small minority seat) – that where recognized as legit from whole world including Russia Federation.

2.) Ukraine government signs deals and their representatives shakes hands with all leaders from other countries in the world – including with putin.

3.) People from east Ukraine that are occupied by pro-Russia putin regime terrorists – can and are traveling both from occupied territories to west Ukraine and back – bringing their pensions, products, relatives etc.

Now, if there where Nazis / Fascists in west Ukraine – none of this would be possible.

 

This is an information warfare – it’s easy to become a victim. Only thing is you can do is to look at facts you can check your self and do your own conclusions. Look at map of DNR & LNR and ask a question how come such a small territory can sustain war for 2 years. Russia 5 day war in Georgia costs 12,5 billion rubles that’s 2,5 billion RUB for one day.

 

If there is Nazi ideology rising somewhere than it is in Russia under putin regime hate propaganda. After that only Nazi zombies comes out:

https://youtu.be/g5E_qMHTO0U

Speeches just like Hitler had his time. Even if you don’t understand Russian – you will feel that nazi hate energy :

https://youtu.be/AKABlOs6DWY

Hate propaganda on Russian TV channels 24/7:

https://youtu.be/3vm0jgv525I

 

Hate and lies - that is all putin regime can offer and that is only putin regime paid trolls will bring here - Hate and lies. 

Mountainview's picture

They even have ministry of truth, and forbid the commie party.

TheFourthStooge-ing's picture

Oh, the intellectual copy-paste talking.

God, what verbal diarrhea. They in their Yatzi propaganda finally pupated.

The Delicate Genius's picture
The Delicate Genius (not verified) newsoutlet Aug 3, 2015 5:24 PM

The Anti-Crimean Pogrom that Sparked Crimea’s Breakaway

http://rinf.com/alt-news/editorials/the-anti-crimean-pogrom-that-sparked...

p.s. Hey Vlad, where's my check, you big, sexy, bear-wrestling beast? Seriously, I took some Danes to a Providence strip club and things got out of hand. Did you know that you could hunt the most dangerous game - man - on Block Island? True story.

Phuk u's picture

Mr News I'm sorry to say that in general you are pissing into the wind with the majority on this site

you can write and paste anything but it wont change the putin myopics in their mindset that anything

that is on MSM is lies therefore Russia Today, Vinyardsaker and global research and all the other

Moscow sponsored media (alt MSM) must be true. Keep posting its important to balance the views

on this site albeit a thankless endeavour.

TheFourthStooge-ing's picture

Oh yes, I forgot, you're from the Ukraine, where the internet and TV are working in a special way.

Ukrops shit the forum, apparently they can smell the end is near and finally poops.

Sick of these mushrooms are retarded. Let them jump!

newsoutlet's picture
newsoutlet (not verified) Aug 3, 2015 3:20 PM

ZH as putin regime propaganda asset is boiling again same soup on this same topic regarding events in Ukraine using same ingredients: Nazis, Fascists, coup, etc. 

So again here is my reply to that.

Ukraine was a satellite state for putin regime. That means it suffers great deal of same problems as in Russia under putin regime. The main problem is corruption at all levels and deep in every citizen way of thinking. It’s hard to get out if it is so rooted still from USSR times. So what happened here is that there where corrupt border patrol personal and local police officers who smuggled from Russia illegal weapons, alcohol, drugs, etc. As local authorities responsible from stopping such crime where corrupt (now they are fired from their job) didn’t do nothing – those militia took this situation in their own hands. It’s not how it should be done under normal situation but it was only thing they could do to stop coming those drugs and weapons from Russian side. Than when they turned weapons against local authorities who where corrupt – things went out of hand quickly but in the end they gave up them self and laid down arms. Of course putin regime propaganda made a great deal of this and I see that Zero Hedge as putin regime asset continues to invest in this story to twisted as loony as it can get.

I won’t go down to each of the lie in this article – because it would be like anyone saying to you “You are a donkey” and then you have to invest time to prove it you are not a donkey – that’s just idiotic and was of time.

But when you think about Ukraine than know these facts:

1.) Ukraine had free democratic parliament and presidential elections (far right sector got super small minority seat) – that where recognized as legit from whole world including Russia Federation.

2.) Ukraine government signs deals and their representatives shakes hands with all leaders from other countries in the world – including with putin.

3.) People from east Ukraine that are occupied by pro-Russia putin regime terrorists – can and are traveling both from occupied territories to west Ukraine and back – bringing their pensions, products, relatives etc.

Now, if there where Nazis / Fascists in west Ukraine – none of this would be possible.

 

This is an information warfare – it’s easy to become a victim. Only thing is you can do is to look at facts you can check your self and do your own conclusions. Look at map of DNR & LNR and ask a question how come such a small territory can sustain war for 2 years. Russia 5 day war in Georgia costs 12,5 billion rubles that’s 2,5 billion RUB for one day.

 

If there is Nazi ideology rising somewhere than it is in Russia under putin regime hate propaganda. After that only Nazi zombies comes out:

https://youtu.be/g5E_qMHTO0U

https://youtu.be/o9gL8FR_vWQ 

Speeches just like Hitler had his time. Even if you don’t understand Russian – you will feel that nazi hate energy :

https://youtu.be/AKABlOs6DWY

Hate propaganda on Russian TV channels 24/7:

https://youtu.be/3vm0jgv525I

 

Hate and lies - that is all putin regime can offer and that is only putin regime paid trolls will bring here - Hate and lies. 

The Delicate Genius's picture
The Delicate Genius (not verified) newsoutlet Aug 3, 2015 3:25 PM

Nazis In Ukraine? German TV Shows Ukrainian Soldiers Displaying Nazi Symbols

http://www.ibtimes.com/nazis-ukraine-german-tv-shows-ukrainian-soldiers-...

I guess Putin's paying German tv to troll too.

TheFourthStooge-ing's picture

Don't forget the Latvians! Their Hitlers march annually in Riga in a festive celebration of life under occupation.

http://www.ibtimes.com/hundreds-participate-annual-nazi-veterans-march-l...

David Wooten's picture

You have the "Putin regime" confused with the deadliest regime on earth whose headquarters is in Washington, DC.

farmerbraun's picture

There is absolutely no corruption in the USA, or the UK, right?
Why didn't you just say that?

smacker's picture

There speaks the Daily Slime.

Joe A's picture

You're still here? You only post on Ukraine articles. Freedom123 was also doing that but then he get kicked for trolling. Your bio btw. is very funny.

Anyway, Ukraine has been out of the news lately. Personally I thought that the whole conflict would flare up again after winter. It did to some extend but not into a full blown conflict. These nazi thugs can't seem to wait though. That would spell the end of Ukraine as we know it. This nazi guy -with the crazed look in his eyes- says that Western European countries mistake nazism with nationalism (I guess he meant the other way around but nazis are not known for their intelligence). He will find out how much Western European countries will drop Ukraine like a brick once he and his nazi thug colleagues would seize control of the country.

mastersnark's picture

Ah yes, the miracle of the "right-wing socialist" label because government media is uncomfortable with leftists acting like leftists.