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Texas Schools Caught Manipulating Quotes To Push Christianity On Students
Submitted by Carey Welder via TheAnti-Media.org,
A public school district in Eastern Texas is under fire amid allegations it made up quotes by famous figures in order to promote Christianity to its students, posting them to the walls of the four schools in the district. The Mount Vernon Independent School District is accused of misattributing quotes to George Washington and Ronald Reagan among others and faces demands to remove the false statements from its walls.
“It is impossible to govern a nation without God and the Bible,” George Washington said—according to the district. “Within the covers of the Bible are the answers for all the problems men face,” it claims Ronald Reagan opined.
The Freedom from Religion Foundation, a non-profit organization, says these quotes are false. It recently wrote a letter to the school district asking that they correct their misattributions. Staff Attorney Sam Grover called the alleged Reagan quote “dubious, and, incidentally, intellectually lazy since that is not a direct quotation.” In a letter to the district, he alleged it, along with other quotes, had been taken out of context to promote Christianity specifically.
“When MIVSD manipulates historical quotes by removing context and isolating lines that promote Christianity and religion in general, it violates the right of conscience of its students,” Grover wrote. He accused the school of misquoting (or using quotes misattributed to) John Adams and Thomas Jefferson (in addition to George Washington and Ronald Reagan).
Grover also objected to the district’s framing of the “golden rule” as directly attributable to Jesus, in spite of the fact that “the Golden Rule existed in both ancient Eastern and Western thought, as well as in world religions like Hinduism, Buddhism, Taoism, Zoroastrianism, and many others.”
However, the FFRF’s problem with MIVSD is not only with the school’s manipulation of quotes. Rather, it is with the promotion of any religion in public school. Grover noted that “it is a fundamental principle of Establishment clause jurisprudence that a public school may not advance, prefer, or promote religion.”
It’s unknown where the schools got the lines from, but after a quick Google search, it’s clear that there are plenty of misattributions of these very same quotes found on internet memes.
While the schools’ misattributions and blatant promotion of one religion over others appear to be undoubted constitutional violations, the story highlights an even deeper issue with belief.
It is telling that the quotes on the walls of the schools in the district frequently quote political figures. Whether it be “founding fathers” or the more recent leader, Ronald Reagan, the school district is attempting to use political authority to promote another dogmatic belief. This faith in the United States—so often expressed as nationalistic faith in government institutions themselves—has led to a manipulation of facts similar to what the Texas school district is accused of committing.
While in recent years, the Texas school board moved to change the curriculum to promote Christianity, last year Colorado students walked out of school in protest of proposed changes to their district’s history program. The changes would have downplayed the significance of civil disobedience, among other things. The Advanced Placement (AP) board, a non-government body that offers college-level classes to high school students, recently changed its standards to promote “American exceptionalism” in an attempt to pacify outraged politicians who claimed the prior curriculum insulted the United States. The AP softened its standards on discussions of slavery and American colonialism that decimated the natives’ way of life. It strengthened sections that promote the idea that United States’ military intervention has not only been successful, but necessary.
Whether the religion is Christianity, Islam, Judaism or the State, it remains that dogmatic adherence to any set of beliefs can lead to desperate attempts to protect faith. While not all Christians would endorse the school district’s misleading actions—just as not all Americans favor sugarcoating their country’s history—attachment to collective identities continues to prove a dangerous element in society’s drift from truth.
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Love honest Atheists! I could never muster enough faith in chance as a prime mover to create a universe to become one, but I do enjoy them when honest, so refreshing.
At least they're honest enough to say "I havent seen or experienced anything that would remotely convince me that what the religionists are telling me has any merit"
whereas for the religionists, its "I was taught this, its da TROOF!" no questions asked! and perchance one DOES have a question, why, merely contemplete Jesus and all (as in your biases) will be relvealed!
and no, dont contemplete the fact that Jesus was an ordinary human being and we were all just like him....them spiritual powers come from God, see, and you little peeons cant have them...and in fact, you're inviting DEMONS if you dabble in them! dont touch!!!
yet christians accept this hook line and sinker.
have fun feeding YHVH on your way out, dupes. J aint got nothin to do with that.
Like I said, I enjoy their honesty. You may want to increase your dosage you seem a bit upset, throw some dice and contemplate the unvierse that may help..
thanks for imparting your emotional content upon my words, lol...
turnabout fair play and all that lol... toss them dice bud, you'll feel right as rain.
on second thought, you can keep whatever you're smoking to yourself, I stay away from the shady shit
Please explain how a State entity exercising its power and its position of authority to favor religion is equivalent to a State entity not exercising power in order to allow gay people the same natural rights as everyone else.
I think this falls in the "saying black lives matter doesn't mean other lives don't matter" category. The problem is that homosexuals have lived oppressed, ridiculed, and as victims of violence. It's important to make a big show of their acceptance so as to integrate them as normal, non-opporressed members of society. It doesn't mean they're being promoted, just accepted. The same with the black lives matter thing, the reason is has to be said is because they, specifically, have been told by society and authority figures that their lives don't matter in a way that ours do. I don't know the extent of the problem you're bringing up about the "cross in view", but I do believe it's reasonable to say that Christian symbolism shouldn't be on our government buildings or in our schools. The government, our schools, etc. should have a neutral stance on religion - they should not be shown to be endorsing any specific lifestyle or ideology beyond that which is lawful. That is what it means to be free.
Christians are whining about Pepsi putting the original version of the Pledge of Allegiance on their cans. I'm going to whine about them putting ANY version of the Pledge on their cans.
Good. A secular world would be one where no one saves, everyone indulges, everyone fucks everyone else over and no one plans for tomorrow. I don't want to live in a world like that...wait...shit.
I'm an atheist and I don't do any of those things. Most folks claim to believe in God even those who slut around.
There's strong evidence to suggest that our hunter-gatherer ancestors were sexually promiscuous, with paternity being obscured and children being raised with the small bands of people that lived together. The idea of "slutting around" is post agricultural, and mostly a result of religious institutions teaching us to be ashamed of our sexuality. The societies were also selfless, not because of some virutous nobility of the people - but because it was the best way to survive. People did not hold person possessions, and to be selfish was shameful. Shame in this way was effective because the sizes of the groups of people were small enough (sub 150) that people could keep track of each other and know who people were and what they're doing. This explains why small communities are typically civilized, where at scale people appear to be "inherently selfish". This can be seen with internet anonymity, where everyone is fucking horrible. Society would not fall apart without religion, as so many here seem to believe. People aren't inherently monstrous, and there are other methods of keeping society together that don't revolve around the rules written in a work of fiction. As you more or less said, you live a moral life. As do I, as do the atheists I know. Progressives can't both be overly optomistic tree-huggers AND amoral hethens. It's contradictory. The progressive atheists I know all care about humans and doing right by them. The Christians I know care only about themselves and about judging humans.
Public schools promote religion everyday. The religion of government. The religion of progressivism.
George and Ronald spoke those words. I heard them during one of my visits to the WhiteHouse.
Did you hear this one too, Roberto?
John Adams
2nd U.S. President and Signer of the Declaration of Independence:
"Suppose a nation in some distant Region should take the Bible for their only law Book, and every member should regulate his conduct by the precepts there exhibited! Every member would be obliged in conscience, to temperance, frugality, and industry; to justice, kindness, and charity towards his fellow men; and to piety, love, and reverence toward Almighty God ... What a Eutopia, what a Paradise would this region be."
--Diary and Autobiography of John Adams, Vol. III, p. 9.
Or this one?
“If the freedom of speech is taken away then dumb and silent we may be led, like sheep, to the slaughter. – George Washington
http://christianity.about.com/od/independenceday/a/foundingfathers.htm
Or could it be you read them on the Internet, such as here and here and here:
“Within the covers of the Bible are the answers for all the problems men face.”
? Ronald Reagan
http://www.goodreads.com/quotes/112158-within-the-covers-of-the-bible-are-the-answers-for
http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/quotes/r/ronaldreag183774.html
https://www.livingwaters.com/witnessingtool/greatleadersspeakabouttheBible.shtml
Or are you promoting the Marxist ideology of Salon:
Reagan's radical rhetoric: In his words, not his deeds, Reagan was an extremist | Salon
Michael Lind
QUOTE:
Indeed, every crackpot element of today’s radical Right can find inspiration in quotes from Reagan, which right-wing websites have collected for the benefit of catechumens of the conservative creed.
In office, Reagan may have done little to help the religious right, but in his rhetoric he was one of them:
If we ever forget that we are One Nation Under God, then we will be a nation gone under.
Within the covers of the Bible are all the answers for all the problems men face.
If today’s Republican party is harmed by controversies over its dogmatic insistence on outlawing abortion, Reagan is one of those who can be blamed:
We have the duty to protect the life of an unborn child.
Abortion is only advocated by persons who have themselves been born.
Are today’s conservatives increasingly anti-intellectual, refusing to acknowledge expertise and data-based argumentation in anything from science to economics? They are only emulating their hero:
They say the world has become too complex for simple answers. They are wrong.
I say there are simple answers to many of our problems—simple but hard.
http://www.salon.com/2012/08/28/reagans_radical_rhetoric/
What percentage of students coming out of these schools know how to read?
Title and article all wrong--nothing to do with pushing Christiantiy upon students. This is about trying to pushing the state--trying to use Christiainty to glorify and justify it.
Bingo. Can we kill the Byzantine empire already? lol
I just can't wait another millenia.
Christianity might well be the world's laziest and most degenerate religion. Your character doesn't matter; your behavior doesn't matter; your striving for wisdom doesn't matter; all that matters is that you believe what Mummy and Daddy and the Church tell you. If you do, you'll get a mountain of candy and ice cream forever and ever and ever. If you don't, you'll get spanked over and over and over for all eternity.
In fact, should you actually follow the teachings of Jesus - you're a hippie liberal progressive.
“Whether the religion is Christianity, Islam, Judaism or the State, it remains that dogmatic adherence to any set of beliefs can lead to desperate attempts to protect faith.”
This is not a desperate attempt to protect faith; anyone can see that this is an honest attempt to provide historical truth related to America’s history and morality and her Christian culture. The quotations appear to be essentially correct and this group, Freedom from Religion Foundation, has a record of attacking Christianity and America’s moral standards. Its website reveals nothing less than a systematic attack on religion, primarily on the Christian religion. Apparently, the public needs to be reminded of that one portion of the First Amendment to the Constitution which states that “Congress shall make no law respecting the establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof.”
The “free exercise” easily covers what this school district is quoting from two past presidents of the United States. And, by the way, a religion is being established here and that religion is the tragically dangerous secular humanism. One review of this Freedom From Religion Foundation beliefs and activities prove that they are a powerful disciplined and aggressive religion.
Freedom from Religion Foundation New Legal Successes:
http://ffrf.org/legal/other-legal-successes
And Bible led Christians (Unlike the mostly human secularist Christianity...Joel Olsteen ect.) have forsaken their Lord. They must suffer the consequences of instructing these filthy secularists in the consequences of their relentless political pogrom.
formula for atheism: Nobody + Nothing = Everything.
You don't even know what atheism means. It means no belief in an EXTERNAL Supreme BEING. Buddhists are atheists but they believe in a Supreme LAW, not a supreme being. the Supreme Law is Cause and Effect. The universe is limitiless and everything is cause and effect.
Buddhism explains in detail exactly what ''God'' is. and even gives you ''HIS'' telephone number.
they dont say buddha is the one and only god
and not only that,
they say you have the innate ability to achieve such also
even though they do have their own version of "heaven" and dont tell you what the fee is to get in...
Everybody's fee is different. You go to Heaven by achieving a character worthy of Heaven, but each person is unique and all circumstances are idiosyncratic.
Buddhism believes heaven and hell are life conditions that people experience when alive. in fact here are the 10 ''Worlds'' or life conditions within each human being as per Buddhism frow lowest to highest.
Hell, Hunger (greed, animality (arrogance), Anger, rapture, Tranquility, learning, absorption, (subconcious learning). Aspirationg for enlightenment and Englightenment. at any given moment you are in one of those life conditions. usually the lower 6,
I don't consider Buddhism to be devoid of supernatural elements, and personally, I don't agree with the reductive materialist philosophy that tries to contextualize Buddhism's devas and planes of existence as merely psychological phenomenea. Of course, there's room enough for both - one of the things that makes Buddhism a far more attractive religious philosophy than Christianity.
I think I'm a closet buddhist
Buddhism believes heaven and hell are life conditions that people experience when alive. in fact here are the 10 ''Worlds'' or life conditions within each human being as per Buddhism frow lowest to highest.
Hell, Hunger (greed, animality (arrogance), Anger, rapture, Tranquility, learning, absorption, (subconcious learning). Aspirationg for enlightenment and Englightenment. at any given moment you are in one of those life conditions. usually the lower 6,
I keep getting the machine. Got his email?
Here is his phone number.
Watch and learn, it WORKS for anyone who tries it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EL3fRLx4pHw
I enjoy the koans and the Ten Bulls but I'm not going to sit around chanting anything. To each his own.
"Public schools are bad ... except when the indoctrination regime happens to include some variety of bullshit which I happen to like."
Islamic mad?ris are not wrong for brainwashing their students, but for brainwashing with the wrong material.
The world of, say, 1984 was not bad in that it held human lives so cheap and brutally enforced an authoritarian collectivist ideology, but because ... said ideology was just insufficiently Christian!
This from the same people who wonder mouth-agape at how the evil Nazis, Soviets, ChiComs, and all other enemy societies (a rather long list!) ever get off the ground.
"attachment to collective identities continues to prove a dangerous element in society’s drift from truth."
Oooh noooo yooouuuu did Not just take an implied shot at MY collective identity!!!rabblerabblerabble!!1!
My mother was Catholic and father Protestant; religious differences. I chose pascal's wager. No reason to join a cult whose operative plan is to destabilize religion to gain further monetary control.
Pascal's Wager (Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy).
Why choose Allah instead of YHWH? Pascal's Wager applies to both and they're mutually exclusive so you're fucked either way, buddy.
Personally, I think Pure Land Buddhism is the most sensible route, if you think you need salvation so bad. Just say Amitabha Buddha and he'll rescue you from Hell. You don't even have to believe it - just saying his name is enough by his standards.
Everyone is going to hell according to someone's religion. Better to live a decent life and die knowing you did your best to help mankind.
And your next life will also be much better
Sorry dipshit, I believe in God. Just not the one who's to be the politicial team player under cult believes.
That's how the bankers have played this over millions of years. Not a atheist.
Get over your blind eyes.
you speak as if yhvh and allah are not the same entity *facepalm* the two religions have the same root, the same one and only god that is jealous of all other gods, and still completely sidestepping the issue that a truly omnipotent entity isnt going to care or threaten you with fire and brimstone if you dont do as the religious leaders tell you to.
recitation isnt going to magically bypass the winds of karma for you, it merely sets up a sympathetic resonance "affinity" for such. can one lie to himself in the mirror and believe it?
If Christianity is so great, why does a government school need to make up quotes to sell it to kids?
Too right. It's obvious to me that if people were actually educated about a reasonable number of religions, and their beliefs, and their codes of ethics and behavior - nobody in their right mind would choose Christianity from the bunch.
If it made any sense you wouldn't need faith.
So you should believe something that's obviously stupid because it's obviously stupid?
There's a certain originality to that kind of thinking. But it sounds like a recipe for separating a fool from his money to me.
Christianity can't show ANY proof of its power or non power in the lives of its adherents.
that must mean that all power belongs to God, or that it doesn't exist. But a Jew came who showed us the power of God, through a virgin birth, His miracles, by dying on a cross for our sins and by His resurrection from the dead. The great exchange, my sin for His righteousness is the greatest trade of all time, but it's a long term one.
Thats what you believe and its you right too believe that. Its also my right for YOU not to shove your religion in my face
I'm not shoving it in your face, though. And I do have the right of free speech as long as it is not infringing on yours.
and you can also feel free to ignore all of the means through which he obtained his spitirual powers, or the fact that the stories written were all 70 years after he was dead, ya know, right fresh in everyone's minds
Now He said to them, "These are My words which I spoke to you while I was still with you, that all things which are written about Me in the Law of Moses and the Prophets and the Psalms must be fulfilled."
Matthew, John, Mark, Luke written 70 yrs after he was dead? These people only lived 70 yrs, except John to 100.
sorry stiler, you're not doing your homework
I think the biggest factor that suggests that they were written before 70 AD, is that the destruction of the Temple is not mentioned in any of them as something that has happened. With something as significant as that, you would think that it would.
https://carm.org/when-were-gospels-written-and-whom
http://www.neverthirsty.org/pp/bible-questions/answer01098-was-revelatio...
"only lived 70 yrs" actually not true, as they were all martyred but John.
so you're admitting parts of the story are not true - congratulations, its a first step
Wow, down -5. I'm amazed. For this reason, God is turning His attention away from the gentiles and to the nation of Israel to bless them by trying them in the fire. All Israel shall be saved through faith in Jesus Christ.
All Israel?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M539PgDjbas
Yes, all Israel. Romans 11:26. However, 2/3 of Israel will die in the coming Armageddon. Zechariah 13:8
I'll see your Samson Option and raise you Dead Hand.
Maybe he will repent? If not, he never was of Israel. Neither were the Pharisees. True Israel is described in the Old Testamnet as "the poor and needy". Those having faith in God through the sacrifices (which are no longer needed, Jesus having died for us)
Jesus died for us is one of THE stupidest pieces of tripe foisted upon the duped.
and nevermind all the other stories of similar ascension by other cultivated individuals! *facepalm*
It is no secret to anyone that government schools promote atheism; it was achieved by Marxist pressure not on voters or school districts but on the courts -- put into operation by the operative above, the ACLU, and other Jewish organizations. And now we have a practicing lawyer of the ACLU as a justice on the Supreme Court - Ruth Bader Ginsberg.
Dave Jolly of Godfather Politics writes:
Christians have long argued that atheism is a religion as it is a belief in no God and that by removing Christianity from schools established atheism as the official religion of the public school system. It is impossible to have a vacuum of religious belief and when one religion is forcibly removed from a system, another religious belief will automatically replace it. But we have been unsuccessful in convincing the courts of this fact, but now, thanks to government lawyers, Christians may be able to make this argument in courts around the nation.
It all started in 2009 when Laurie Gaylor, Co-Founder and Co-President of the atheist organization Freedom From Religion Foundation filed a lawsuit in California to get the parsonage tax break taken away from clergy. Currently, ministers and clergy are allowed to take a percentage of their income as a tax-free housing allowance and Gaylor doesn’t believe that’s fair.
The California lawsuit was eventually dropped, but they later re-filed the lawsuit in Wisconsin in 2011.
However, her efforts have been turned in a direction that she did not expect. Lawyers for the federal government are now saying that leaders of atheist groups can function as ministers since atheism can be considered a religion and therefore, Gaylor and her husband would eligible for the tax-free housing allowance.
This has further rankled the atheist leader who has told the government attorneys that she does not want the tax break.
Read more at http://godfatherpolitics.com/12248/feds-say-atheism-religion-affect-teaching-evolution-creation/#s8XKe4FMDVRS3pje.99
During the late 1970's. We had the stand up in morning school to pledge to allegiance of the flag. I remember one girl in third grade. She never stood up. Her name was Becky Knutz. No joke.
Later in my life I figured it out. There was another strange character in civics HS class. He would shout out communism, we didn't know what to make of it.
Tim Kizsner, your father taught you well. ;)
http://i.imgur.com/Gw3bEcZ.jpg
2000 years old is pretty good for a Texas school text book.
Anyone who's spent significant time in say... Liberty County, east Texas knows that the place is more or less an open air asylum for impoverished religious fanatics, often fueled not so much by religious zeal, as by cheap, easily available meth. While typically idiotic for the region, it's not at all surprising.
Texas overall has some great places and some great people. East Texas is a shithole.
As opposed to where? Compton? E. St. Louis? Harlem? And just about every single Amerikan Urban Utopia over 500,000? Fck You.... simple-assed slough.
Anyone familiar with the Christian religion can tell you that it does not practice the manufacture of narcotics. And "impoverished religious fanatics" is hardly an accurate description of the followers of Christ.
Trailer. Park.
Yes, but it wasn't *your* meth crazed neighbor that stomped up and down the street in front of your east Texas lake house yelling about Jesus and judgment day for about 8 hours straight until the cops finally came.
I'm sure you'll argue that he wasn't a true Christian.
He probably wasn't a true Scotsman either ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_true_Scotsman ).
It is difficult to expose the ignorance of people when that ignorance is inculcated into a large mass of persons. With the precaution of offending the “baby boomers”, I can offer an observation made waaaay back in the early. 80’s.
I think that the confluence of radical feminism and 'cultural Marxism' within the span of a single generation (The Boomers), makes this the most dangerous generation in America's history. The Boomers alone have imposed this yoke on the Straight White American Christian Male. It remains to be seen whether or not the Straight White American Christian Male will continue his 'voluntary submission' to a future of slavery in a new American matriarchy, the precursor to a state of complete anarchy.
Strauss, William and Howe, Neil, "Generations: The History of America's Future -- 1584 to 2069," pp. 382, William Morrow & Company, 1991. "We can foresee a full range of possible outcomes, from stirring achievement to apocalyptic tragedy...Boomers can best serve civilization by restraining themselves (or by letting themselves be restrained by others) until their twilight years, when their spiritual energy would find expression not in midlife leadership [for which they are not equipped], but in elder stewardship."
Education
Education for tolerance, rather than knowledge, is the goal.
In postmodern public education, teachers are no longer transmitters of consequential knowledge to children.
Education is not merely neglected in many of our schools today, but is replaced to a great extent by ideological indoctrination. Moreover, it is largely indoctrination based on the same set of underlying and unexamined assumptions among teachers and institutions. A shadow curriculum from anti-Western Philosophy exponents.
The failure of our educational system goes beyond what they fail to teach. It includes what they do teach, or rather indoctrinate, and the graduates they send out into the world, incapable of seriously weighing alternatives for themselves or for American society.
All of this is anti-democratic in the name of democracy. No one ever asks, why does identity politics – whether of religion, race, class or gender – go so well with authoritarianism?” Perhaps because it encourages a collectivist mindset; it attempts to assign each of us to a group, which can then be pitted against other groups. After all, this is the objective of Critical Theory or Cultural Marxism.
Education for tolerance, rather than knowledge, is the goal.
And so “news anchors” and the like, comes freshly minted into the pulpit of Cable News ready to spew the gospel of the “New Religion”, devoid of logic, reason, knowledge, history, perspective, discipline, experience, biology, nature, facts or wisdom.
Subject matter experts (like the pundits on TV) number in the thousands, but the wise may only number in the tens or hundreds, and they have no access to an audience. The world of political pundits, economists, and financial experts are disciplines where rhetoric replaces reason. Think: Enforced dialog! The occulturists! (Intentional misspell)
It seems that education is striving to eliminate cultural gems and societal norms, in favor of some cookie cutter society devoid of knowledge and critical thought. Whereas instinct can not be altered, the education process is to make one intuitively react according to some, code of conduct and controlled thought, configured as defined by the pundit and their educators. That creates slaves not free persons. Liberty (a right) is a noun. Freedom (independence) is a noun. So, you can be at liberty to enjoy your freedom. However, freedom can suffer from too much liberty. Think about it! We argue about taking rights away to give others rights which suppress the rights of others.
TV Pundits do not allow freedom of thought, nor the liberty to express it! So, pundits are against liberty and freedom, which do not fit the pundits limited and less than first class, educational mantras.
And then, there is the Supreme Court!
The Marxist threat: There is a revolution coming that will originate with the culture…the revolution of the new generation…exposed by Weston in this video:
Paul Weston: How to Destroy a Country
“What was once immoral is now moral, and what was once moral is now immoral. This is the whole inversion of morality…what drove the [current Marxist cultural] revolution…a literal end of Western Civilization…” the revolution of the new generation…
(“In this speech to a meeting of Swinton Circle in London on 31 July 2015, Liberty GB leader Paul Weston exposes the Left's relentless assault on British culture, identity and tradition.”)
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DukeOfDurham 4 days ago
The point about selective history in the schooling system is an important one. I finished school/college last year, and my history topics were as follows during my time: The Nazis, Slavery, the Nazis again, Civil Rights, Colonialism, and finally the Nazis once more. The running theme being the supposed Evil White man. This theme was present in almost all subjects, yet after all this, the anti-White neo-Marxists have the audacity to call Nationalists "brainwashed"! Ha!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qkjLcq0yvmM
Welcome to the bible belt. 13 churches for a burg of 2200 people. Sad but is this really national news?
13 churches all spreading fairytales with NO power to help people help themselves.
I certainly agree that this is not national news, unless you are a left-wing Jewish media outlet. And as for your ridiculous statement that Christians do not help their fellow citizens…are you from Mars or Hell? No force on earth has been more powerful in its charitable and thankless assistance of the innocents, the downtrodden, and every class of the human race than the Christian church.
Nothing short of the principles of equality and charity built into modern civilization, led by the establishment of the American government, is because of Christians. And, by the way, do not mistake the followers of Christ for those who would use his name for their own selfish or misguided ideology, such as the Marxist-leaning National Council of Churches.
As for Christian charity, the Center for Global Prosperity found that in the US "the $8.8 billion in giving from American religious institutions to developing countries was $1.5 billion more than the total giving from all private sources in 30 of the world's major industrialized democratic countries combined."
The Daily Kos in "How Come Christian Conservatives Give More?" says "Mounting evidence shows that religious people give more dollars and volunteer hours to charity than do nonbelievers, and conservatives give more than liberals." ABC News reports that “...the single biggest predictor of whether someone will be charitable is their religious participation.”
http://www.givingandvolunteering.org/pdf/n-vc1sen.pdf
Christers and Jews. biggest liars on the planet. all citing their fairytale book.
So much bigger stuff out there to worry about than written references to God posted in tbe schoolhouse.
John Lennon: the Beatles are bigger than jesus Christ.
The way things are going, they're gonna crucify me.
Such a great example of selective outrage. Come to think of it, thats about all we get these days in the news. The GOP is outraged at planned parenthood but wont defund it. The Dems are outraged at the wars, but wont end them. Most christians are outraged at homosexual marriage but are not outraged about droning brown people who live over "our oil". And the Greenies are outraged at cars but are ok with chemtrails. And the muslims..well the people of the religion of peace are perhaps the most consistent, they are outraged at everyone.
miffed.
If people woke up to the Supreme Law of Cause and Effect instead of worshipping some guy in the sky the world would be much better of, and so would they.
No one gets away with anything. Thats the Supreme Law. because life continues on even after this life.
And all sufferings are because of causes we have made in the past (karma).
the statement above the lockers may not be a quote from RR, but is nevertheless an accurate one.
whats worse than the supreme court giving in to how cool gay mariage is to the federal government
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stop worrying they are protecting you, bottoms up!
What a dumb story. Some teacher probably Googled this and got some bad info.
Next you're going to tell me a Sunday School teacher cited a Bible verse that was in the Old testament and not the New Testament? Oh the Horror!
Here is ''gods'' phone number. It works for anyone who tries it. no need to ''BELIEVE IT''. just do it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EL3fRLx4pHw
“Texas Schools Caught Manipulating Quotes to Push Christianity on Students”
When you put a headline on like this you automatically attract the flies. They feel so guilty about their lives that they need to blame someone and that someone they believe is a religion judging them.
The schools are government controlled because of the aggressive efforts of Jewish groups (ACLU et cetera), an encouragement to atheists, with plenty of leverage and threats to keep politicians from interfering.
The atheists and the Jews are in charge of the courts that monitor the schools; they make the laws and they use the government to enforce them. The atheists and the Jews established government control of schools - who set up government schools, who decided that the government should run the schools, who decided what rules should regulate the schools, who decided the curriculum, the hiring practices and the removal of control and influence by local school boards and parents as primary control was established in Washington?
The truth is...
"A man can no more diminish God's glory by refusing to worship Him than a lunatic can put out the sun by scribbling the word, 'darkness' on the walls of his cell. Aim at heaven and you will get earth thrown in. Aim at earth and you get neither...
--C. S. Lewis, The Problem of Pain
Yet, the sun is empirically evident. And the sun is eclipsed by the moon.
Soka Gakkai in the USA
http://www.sgi-usa.org/
It's been true for 2000 years.
This has been true FOREVER and first chanted physically on April 28, 1253 by Nichiren Daishonin.
http://www.sgi-usa.org/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EL3fRLx4pHw
Amy Farrah Fowler: I don't object to the concept of a deity, but I'm baffled by the notion of one that takes attendance.
Sheldon Cooper: Well then, you might want to avoid East Texas.
The test of any religion or philosophy is
''Does it work, 100 percent of the time, absolutely''.
If something doesn't work , do you just write if off as ''gods will''?
People need to do some thinking and questioning , even Christians.
EVeryone I have ever met in this organisation are ex Christians, Jews, Muslims etc.
One thing they all say ''I wish I would have found out about this much earlier in life''
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http://www.sgi-d.org/
http://www.sginl.org/
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Soka-Gakkai-France/160664033946195
Placing my mother's catholic hat on, Marxism is trying to destroy faith. The new Catholic Pope is the enabler.
My last vision of my mother, rose beads wrapped around her hand. Telling me, she'll look forward to my visit tomorrow. She passed away 4 hours later.
If you want a "cultural revolution"; taking down all the holocaust lies about soap and 6 million Jews in the absurd "shoa temples" would be a good place to start.
It will all come back around to them the LIES.
I'm in East Texas. Mikey Weinstein's Freedom From Religion Foundation has decided this area should be in their crosshairs.
One of the deputy county clerks next door in Gregg County collects crosses. She has a collection of them that she has received as gifts from friends who have brought them back from their travels. Parts of her collection were up on the wall by her desk and were featured in the angle of a pic of two gay men asking the county clerk for a marriage certificate. I knew there would be trouble when I saw that photo. Almost immediately, the Freedom From Religion Foundation was raising Cain about those crosses.
As to the issue of Mount Vernon ISD...
I would like to invite you to explore what happens when a school district does not uphold moral behavior in the schools. If you want to destroy the ability to reach and teach students, allow chaos to reign inside the 4 walls of a school building. How do you teach math in that environment? Math is orderly, values-free behavior is not. The guiding principles in our society have deep roots in Mosiac Law which is ubiquitous in Chrisitianity. The Ten Commandments guide us to keep our elbows in. Too bad some cannot agree on that as a way to get along in our social dealings.
Sorry, you lost me with "I'm in East Texas".
I went to this school, as I mentioned in another post. You're dealing with a graduating class of 100 white shit heels. How much chaos could possibly reign? The fact that you're seriously endorsing the enforcement of a religious ideology is just absurd.
This powerful story of yours which the government-indoctrinated students are not able to understand (hence, the comment “Sorry, you lost me with ‘I'm in East Texas’" ) indicts the direction of the entire American government. When the Congress because of its subservience to the banking cartel stopped representing the American people, the communist forces (and they are communist) filled the void immediately in their direct use of the courts to close out the Founders’ morality, culture and religion. It was a full-blown attack on America’s majority white Christian culture; a court even ruling that homosexuality trumps religion, and that a people opposed to widespread socialized healthcare would have it whether they liked it or not.
The ugly rise of atheism is only a symptom of the control these Bolsheviks have achieved with their ownership of the currency.
And to show the power of Rothschild's statement, "Permit me to issue and control the money of a nation, and I care not who makes its laws!”, the vast majority of Americans are Christians.
Wow. You're a moron.
The taxpayers in Mount Vernon ISD pay $1.24874 per $100 market value in school taxes. That is greater than 70% of the district's revenues. They should be able to have a say in the continuation of their culture in that district.
Apparently something is working in MVISD. Their standardized end of course scores have been better than the state averages except for US history which came in at 88% passing as oppposed to 91% for the state. Algebra I was the only math course tested this time around. MVISD students scored 88% passing with 28% performing on the advanced level v the state average of 81% passing and 21% performing on the advanced level.
I have laid out standardized scores for quite a few of the districts in East Texas. One of the things that pops out is that districts with reputedly better standards of behavior outscore districts that do not share those reputations for behavior. Good teachers tend to gravitate to the districts where they get backup from the administrators. They even forgo the higher pay rates in our local district where feral children remain feral. Our not-to-orderly district enjoyed an 28% teacher turnover rate for each of the last two years for which that datapoint is available. In the 2014-2015 school year MVISD was able to spend $0 on disciplinary alternative education programs. They don't have DAEP and they don't have to pay to farm out to another district as far as I can tell. Their total outlay for security/monitoring was $76,974, which translates to $46 per student for the year.
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Absolutely...full disclosure: ZH de facto Joooo
Again - as one who actually went to this school - they were well known to be a school that focused all of its attention on passing the standardized tests at detriment to actual learning.
That's true of all schools since "no child left behind"
Example of the Buddhist concept of ESHO FUNI (oneness of man and enviroment)
Its a beautiful sunny day at the beach. You are sipping a cool one enjoying and soaking it in.
Then your cellphone rings and someone tells you your whole familty has been killed in a car wreck
At that moment you are in HELL and it no longer looks like a beautiful day,. even though it is.
Everything is inside of us. Heaven and Hell, and the other 8 life conditions.
Just something to make YOU THINK.
No need to be so melodramatic, in English, "Heaven and Hell are the same place". Go watch the World Cup finals, same football ground, one side's in hell, the other heaven.
Hmmm, I smell an agenda!
Sorry, it was the chili..........
No worries, these students will be warped by the Progressives when they get to college.
Just popping in to say I literally went to school here. At the time, these quotes weren't present. However, not being Christian was unthinkable. It's the kind of town where a man is judged by the size of his truck and the points on his buck. Meanwhile I'm a scrawny, long haired artist. I don't like thinking about high school.
As a very young student, I still remember school prayer. I had no religious training whatsoever, and I can still clearly remember my feelings of being disconnected, an outsider with my classmates. I was pretty upset during these moments...Guess what? So the Eff what.
We told you this would happen in 2005. No one would believe it, until in 2015-2016. Do you remember those good sound bits of Obama as the Messiah?
Ministry Messiah - YouTube
This is small town Texas, this is not pushing Christianity on anyone, most of the students in that school probably worship the Lord in church every Sunday.
At this very school in question, I once encountered a girl who wore a shirt that said "Salty". Being the fucking moron that I am, I asked "why does you shirt say salty?"... She repled "You know when you have like a cut or a wound and you go in the ocean, and it stings really bad - but it's cleaning out the wound and healing you? Well that's like telling an atheist about Jesus."
Going to school there was... very hard on me.
Damn them! They should have something more appropriate up their like, "Islam is a religion of peace" - Obola.
No. They should have nothing. That's what they're saying.
Freedom of religion means placing pro-islam quotes would be equally valid. If you're not in support of THAT, you can't be in support of this. The intellectual sovereignty of people must be respected. It couldn't possibly be more simple. Your religion isn't under assault, your belief that evangelizing and indoctrinating people into your religion IS.
Who gives a shit.
I am more worried about half a century of college teachers pushing Keynesianism on college students.
Until Christians, real Christians...those that practice what the Holy Bible commands assert their faith and who they serve, the Kulture will continue to grow ever more chaotic and subject to the winds that bring mass murder. I'm not hopeful
It appears to me that the Messianic Jews and the Hebrew roots Christians are catching the fire. I attend worship services with a small messianic congregation and mostly feel at home. Entirely too many of the protestant churches are caught up in worrying about the rapture and the tribulation to be able to have enough energy left to focus on the serious study of God's word. They seem to need to comfort themselves with the idea that they "will be out of here" before they can have a chance to suffer for their faith. (The Christians in the Middle East and Africa must not have gotten that email.) Although the sermons come from the Torah portions, much more scripture is taught every Saturday. Messianic Judaism has a much more "muscular" understanding of scripture. There is a familiarity with the idioms and traditions and the irony and wit that can be found in Jewish culture. It is a matter of better context.
Mature Christianity tends to do better under persecution, so take heart. As believers have to become more serious and study to validate what the scriptures say, some fall away but others grow stronger. We will not disappear.
The freedom from having to hear opinions? What a novel idea, I can't imagine the immense damage these quotes must have done. The damages must be into the tens of millions..
I think they have it all wrong... it was not Ronald Reagan but Jimmy Carter who is the true author of the quote... Ronald stole it from Jimmy...
texas = home base of christian taleban
According to the comments under an article by one of the East Texas TV stations, a local resident pointed out the quotations at the school to the FFRF.
BrotherRat, was that you?