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"They Have To Go"; Trump Vows To Deport All Illegal Immigrants

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"You’re going to love me on immigration," Donald Trump told a crowd of reporters and fans who gathered in Iowa to hear the billionaire speak after he landed in a $7 million Sikorsky. 

Trump, who drew sharp criticism in some circles after suggesting that Mexican immigrants were responsible for rape and drug addiction in the US, hasn’t backed down on calls for a tougher stance on immigration and to be sure, some voters share his views, even if they don’t necessarily agree with the rather uncouth way in which they were presented.

Trump’s call for the construction of a "wall" along America’s southern border is diametrically opposed to President Obama’s push to shield nonviolent immigrants from deportation. An executive order from the President designed to speed up efforts to overhaul immigration drew sharp criticism from Republican governors who moved to block the order earlier this year.  

On Saturday, Trump told NBC’s Chuck Todd that if he were elected in 2016, Obama’s executive order would be immediately rescinded. In an exclusive interview given aboard Trump’s private 757, the GOP frontrunner also told Todd that he would deport all illegal immigrants. “They have to go,” he insisted. Here’s more:

Donald Trump would reverse President Obama's executive orders on immigration and deport all undocumented immigrants from the U.S. as president, he said in an exclusive interview with NBC's Chuck Todd.

 

"We're going to keep the families together, but they have to go," he said in the interview, which will air in full on NBC's "Meet the Press" this Sunday.

 

Pressed on what he'd do if the immigrants in question had nowhere to return to, Trump reiterated: "They have to go."

 

"We will work with them. They have to go. Chuck, we either have a country, or we don't have a country," he said.

 

Speaking on Trump's gilded private plane as it idled on a runway in Des Moines, Iowa, the real-estate mogul and Republican presidential frontrunner offered the first outlines of the immigration policy proposals he'd implement from the Oval Office.

 

Trump said, to begin, "we have to" rescind Obama's executive order offering those brought to the U.S. illegally as children — known as DREAMers — protection from deportation, as well as Obama's unilateral move to delay deportation for their families as well.

 

"We have to make a whole new set of standards" for those immigrating to the US.

While short on particulars, that's about as unequivocal as you can get when it comes to a clearly communicated policy stance.

The interesting thing to note here is that as we revealed in June, "since the start of the Second Great Depression, the US has added 2.3 million 'foreign-born' workers, offset by just 727K 'native-born'. This means that the 'recovery' has almost entirely benefited foreign-born workers, to the tune fo 3 to 1 relative to native-born Americans."

Because our analysis of what we called the "illegal immigrant recovery" seems particularly apt here, we'll excerpt the relevant passages below.

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How does the BLS determine a foreign-born worker? This is its definition:

The foreign born are persons who reside in the United States but who were born outside the country or one of its outlying areas to parents who were not U.S. citizens. The foreign born include legally-admitted immigrants, refugees, temporary residents such as students and temporary workers, and undocumented immigrants. The survey data, however, do not separately identify the numbers of persons in these categories.

In other words, the "foreign-born" catogory includes both legal and illegal immigrants unfortunately, the BLS is unable, or unwilling, to distinguish between the two.

As a result, it may well be, that the surprise answer why America's labor productivity (which recently posted its worst 6 month stretch in 22 years) has plummeted in recent years and certainly months, confounding economists who are unable to explain why "solid" labor growth does not translate into just as solid GDP growth...

... and why wage growth has gone precisely nowhere, is because the vast majority of all jobs since December 2007, or 75% to be specific, have gone to foreign-born workers, a verifiable fact. What is unknown is how many of these millions of "foreign-born" jobs have gone to illegal immigrant who are perfectly willing to work hard, and yet whose wage bargaining power is absolutely nil (after all they are happy just to have a job) thereby leading to depressed wages for native-born workers in comparable jobs, resulting in wage growth which over the past 8 years has been non-existent.

Incidentally, this is the same lack of wage growth which has allowed the Fed to pump some $4 trillion into the stock market. Because far more than merely a domestic politics issues, the lack of wage growth and downstream inflation, is precisely what has permitted the Fed to maintain QE as long as it has.

In other words, how many illegal workers cross the US border, may be the biggest variable shaping US monetary policy at the moment! And, in thought-experiment land, the more porous US immigration policy the longer the Fed will be allowed to maintain its ZIRP/QE experiment, and the higher the S&P will rise.

Could it be that illegal immigration is the best friend of that 0.1% of the US population which has benefited exclusively from the Fed's relentless injection of liquidity into risk assets via either ZIRP of QE?

Note: this is not meant to come down on either side of the illegal immigration debate: the upcoming presidential elections will do enough of that. It merely seeks to fill a gaping hole in economist models which are unable to explain or rationalize why America's seemingly "booming" jobs recovery, which is "firing on all fours" according to the BLS, is not manifesting itself in either inflationary pressures, or broad economic productivity.

 

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Sun, 08/16/2015 - 17:17 | 6433003 NidStyles
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You don't become that famous and wealthy by playing nice with everyone.

Sun, 08/16/2015 - 20:05 | 6433562 logicalman
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Only by playing nice with those who will enrich you.

He should do well in government if he ever gets in!

 

Sun, 08/16/2015 - 12:03 | 6431943 TBT or not TBT
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They're certainly losing credibility on immigration due to their owners fervent pro-amnesty stance. 

Sun, 08/16/2015 - 14:59 | 6432507 Thick Willy
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You mean zionist crytpo-Jew Rupert Murdoch?

Why do we let foreigners own American media outlets anyway?  It's not like Rupert fucking Murdock has the interests of the United States of America at heart.  He puts Israel and the British crown above America.

Sun, 08/16/2015 - 20:07 | 6433570 logicalman
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Why would you look at MSM other than to figure out what TPTB want you to think?

Whoever the fuck owns 'em.

Sun, 08/16/2015 - 17:54 | 6433132 Redneck Hippy
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Obama has deported more illegals than any other President. Facts is facts. Just sayin'.

Mon, 08/17/2015 - 13:21 | 6436044 mkkby
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Fuck off and go suck a few more of your overloard cocks.

Sun, 08/16/2015 - 18:05 | 6433176 A Nanny Moose
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Have you ever considered exactly what makes a person, "illegal?"

Being from the wrong side of some imaginary line. IOW, being from the wrong cage/pen on the tax farm.

We need these new tax livestock to pay for gummint programs.

Sun, 08/16/2015 - 20:10 | 6433580 logicalman
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Countries are just a way of dividing up the herd into manageable chunks with the added advantage that they can be pitted against each other so that the true enemy is never challenged.

Sun, 08/16/2015 - 22:06 | 6433999 Dr. Everett V. Scott
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President G.W. Bush actually had a good idea, which Mr. Trump should propose again:

All those here illegally must go back to their home country to "touch base". They would apply at the American embassy for temporary admittance, until their immigration status is decided. They would be allowed to retun to the U.S., and 'touching base' would only take a day or two. They would be fingerprinted and photographed before returning.

That would allow the U.S. to deny re-entrance to anyone with a criminal record, etc. We could keep out the ones released from Mexican prisons, and insane asylums, and the gang-bangers, and those who committed crimes while in the U.S.

Most Hispanics don't want those riff-raff here, either. In the 1980 'Mariel Boatlift', the Cuban-Americans hated the 'Marielitos', who were the dregs of Cuba: Castro emptied out his prisons and insane asylums, and sent them all here, outfoxing the inept Jimmy Carter after Carter complained that Castro was violating their 'human rights' by keeping people in Cuba who wanted to leave.

The same thing is happening now. The Mexican government is ridding itself of its undesirables just like Castro did. "Touch base" is a perfect way to boot out all the gang-bangers and other criminals. Send them back, and don't let them return. Anyone who refused to "touch base" would never be allowed to legally immigrate here.

Next, Trump should propose a way to make it much faster and easier for honest folks to immigrate. Waiting 15 years or more to immigrate legally, while an immigration attorney makes them jump through flaming hoops and drains their savings, is completely unfair. With our birthrate declining, America needs more immigrants. What we don't need are more criminals, gang-bangers and welfare tax-suckers. With the "touch base" requirement, those undesirables would be kept out.

Trump should propose something like that, and say, "Hey, Jeb, that was a great idea your brother had! Are you on board with us?"

Win-win!

Mon, 08/17/2015 - 13:43 | 6434467 Blankenstein
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" With our birthrate declining, America needs more immigrants."  

Our population is 320 million, we don't need any more people, lest we become China or India.  

Mon, 08/17/2015 - 02:59 | 6434514 Bush Baby
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The new citizen test is the ability to survive a high risk trek through the desert at the mercy of rapist murderers.

If you can do that you get to stay, yet we have TSA Agents on the border risking their lives to stop them, talk about a thankless job.

This fucked up policy is why hundreds of these poor slobs die every year while crossing.

If deportation were a certainty most would never attempt to sneak in

Mon, 08/17/2015 - 03:02 | 6434523 asdfzxh
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idts

Sun, 08/16/2015 - 11:00 | 6431697 rbg81
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No, thank you to all the Libtards who voted him into office.  He told us what he was going to do.  Most people either weren't listening or were okay with it.  And the Media wasn't in any hurry to nail him down on gory details.  Too caught up in the "thrill" of voting for the first African-American POTUS.  It also didn't help that his opponent (McCain) was an absolute fucktard who was programmmed to lose.

Sun, 08/16/2015 - 12:07 | 6431956 CitizenPete
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Like it makes a difference.  Your funny.

 

Cheney and PNAC followed by the black face puppet to appease the dolts , so what all the same agenda except for wedge issues that small minded history and financial illiterate chattel focus on.  Would you have rather had ISIL McInsane in the Membrane McCain?  The shadow government and the quest for Eurasia is the the real game, the rest is just noise and collateral Bullshit, served with a Coke and Sesame seed bun.

 

If you think the POTUS calls the shots on things that matter, then you need to go back to bed. (and Dream On)

Sun, 08/16/2015 - 12:38 | 6432055 rbg81
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I think we're all playing guessing games as to how the System actually works.  Anyone who claims absolute knowledge on this score is almost certainly delusional or full of shit.

Sun, 08/16/2015 - 13:07 | 6432133 Chumly
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Well, certainly we were all given fair warning by a highly credentialed individual (Eisenhower) that there was a game being played by a shadow government (ahem, Dulles, et. al.). The next President wasn't so credentialed, (thus definitely much less "protected" than an honored five-star General), and that next President f@$ked with the shadow government and got his head blown off.

A review of Eisenhower's farewell speech, his body language, tone of voice, all of it is there for the average person to see for himself, that there was something deeply wrong.

Of course, we can't quantify it, but it exist in a BIG way and has operated for a long time. The average dolt is the problem in this country as much as the politicians are, when they buy into the same BS every election cycle, ad infinitum.

Sun, 08/16/2015 - 15:02 | 6432519 Thick Willy
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You mean Jewish president Eisenhower that was complicit in the assassination of Patton.  Prevented Patton from going to war against the Jewish Bolshevik Soviets as they raped their way across Eastern Europe and Germany.  Eisenhower who graduated 3rd from the bottom at his West Point class.  Eisenhower who only got his star(s) due to his racial affiliation and loyalty rather than based on performance.  Eisenhower who genocided millions of German POWs and agreed 100% with the Morganthal planf or post-war Germany?

That Eisenhower?

Sun, 08/16/2015 - 16:36 | 6432679 Chumly
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What's your point Einstein? There's a few college drop-outs running multi-million dollar corporations they started too. I don't get it? Who gives a flying shit about all that stuff you stated? It's meaningless in the context of Eisenhower's warning to us. It's something the MIC can't hide from the record and he knew it when he said it.

So what, he was part of the evil MIC (because he no doubt was) and had the balls to warn us about It? If that was his "come to Jesus moment," then so be it. Accomplices in crimes have turned States evidence in criminal cases, in case you didn't know.

It became his most important legacy to us. Or, don't you get that? How many gazillions of hits have there been on excerpts of that speech on YouTube? How many times have you seen the term "Military Industrial Complex" or "MIC" quoted here on ZH alone, not to mention throughout the World Wide Web? Who fucking coined the phrase and gave it meaning, dimwit?

Sun, 08/16/2015 - 16:21 | 6432793 greenskeeper carl
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lets not forget it was 'that eisenhower' who, along with macarthur, tore into the 'bonus army' WWI vets in washington who came there looking for their promised benefits from a govt who betrayed them.

Sun, 08/16/2015 - 16:42 | 6432877 Chumly
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Another Einstein among us - brilliant! Critical Thinking skills = 0

Sun, 08/16/2015 - 18:31 | 6433268 NidStyles
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Fuck Eisenhower. He's one of the fuckers that handed the US over to foreign interests. Even with his warning, he still screwed us. Patton was the last true American allowed to make General and have influence.

Sun, 08/16/2015 - 20:17 | 6433571 Sedaeng
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"looking for their promised benefits [WAY EARLY] from [The US Govt.]"?  fixed it

If I remember correctly, not that I'm justifying the actions of the aforementioned in your post, but the so-called bonus army was looking to cash their 'promised' money in earlier than agreed.  That's like me coming to you for a promised $100 in two years in only 3 months time.  vet "Wheres my money?" - govt "Dude, come back in 21 months and Ill give it to you then. Like we agreed."  - vet "Well, I'm just going to camp out on your lawn until you pay me."

 

Again, not justifying the force used but man, how would any of us respond to an individual making such demands of us?

Sun, 08/16/2015 - 20:11 | 6433585 logicalman
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Or very high up in the System!

Mon, 08/17/2015 - 07:59 | 6434830 rbg81
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Doubt any one that high up in the System would be on ZH.  I'm sure any ex-POTUS knows, though, as someone probably read them the Riot Act after getting elected.

Sun, 08/16/2015 - 11:02 | 6431698 aint no fortuna...
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I hope he starts with those hordes of illegals who trash my car every week when they come through the condo development down here in sw FL with those godawful 90 decible fucking blowers "cleaning up" after they do their "landscaping." Fuckers blast every bit of dirt, stones, grass, branches and miscellaneous debris directly at MY fucking car. Fucking little pricks LoL.

Sun, 08/16/2015 - 11:21 | 6431767 Citxmech
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Leaf blowers in general need to go.  F'n things are a chronic nuisance.

Sun, 08/16/2015 - 11:35 | 6431832 aint no fortuna...
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Amen to that. I had six of them come into the driveway (which is underneath a metal carport roof for 4 vehicles and which makes the noise all that much worse) blasting away this week. All at once. I stood between them and the car daring them to come closer. They didn't, but their crew chief sat in his truck glaring death stares at me. Bring it on motherfucker.

Sun, 08/16/2015 - 11:39 | 6431852 FreeShitter
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All I know is that I finally get to kill somebody -Francis Sawyer.

Sun, 08/16/2015 - 18:32 | 6433272 NidStyles
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So now we are quoting a half crazed lunatic.

Sun, 08/16/2015 - 20:11 | 6433587 DrewJackson
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Blowers should be outlawed.   Donald should make this a key plank in his platform!!

Sun, 08/16/2015 - 14:35 | 6432402 JC_is_a_SpaceMonkey
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They ain't getting rid of the illegals in Florida.  If ICE deported ALL of them, more would keep coming, because the employers keep hiring them, and the Florida state government keeps protecting those employers that hire them. 

The US Justice department actually tried to prosecute some FL employers last for hiring illegals, and the state jumped in ahead of them to give the employers immunity deals and/or miniscule fines to protect them from the Feds.

Sun, 08/16/2015 - 15:04 | 6432533 Thick Willy
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That's one of the many things I do not miss about Muderica - ghetto blasters.  It's almost like you have to be some kind of degenerate subhuman to go around playing your bass music at insane levels and bothering everyone within 1000 yards of your car....

Sun, 08/16/2015 - 20:12 | 6433593 logicalman
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Try cycling past one.

Sun, 08/16/2015 - 11:47 | 6431889 NoPension
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Here's the real deal.
My buddy has 5 of these motherfuckers working for him. He had NO choice. To stay competitive. (Painting) They, our elected leaders, who are supposed to work on OUR ( natural born citizens) behalf, opened the borders to these flood, for their own ends.
And it has fundamentally fucked up our country.
Six years ago, they were in the shadows, afraid of being caught. Willing and wanting to work as much as possible, for modest (and cash, er, no taxes or other requirements) wages. You had NO choice, other than go out of business.
Today;
No one is chasing or looking for them. They hold special status with the government and politicians. They make GOOD money. And, drum roll..... Dictate when they want to work. No Weekends, long hours, etc. get drunk on Friday nights. Completely "Americanized" . The difference is, you can't replace them with a willing native born, even at their rate of pay, because the native MUST be above board. With taxes, overtime pay, Social Security, fuda,Fica, workers comp and the myriad other costs and regulations that have to be adhered to. Natives can't fly under the radar. Or at least do it unhindered or for long.
Cops pull an illeagal over driving drunk, no license or insurance.....it's catch and release. They don't want the paperwork or grief. If it even makes it to court, the judge throws it out for the same reason.

I joke with my buddy, you need to get 4 or 5 new ones, still wet. All the increase in jobs has gone to these people. Now I see them at Home Depot in brand new F250's or towing a new boat. ( the dipshits are drowning like crazy on the Chesapeake!)
So you turds can label me whatever you want. But if Trump shuts that fucking border down, and nothing else, he's my guy.

Ironically, I bet he gets huge support from ILLEAGALS, afraid of losing their paycheck to new arrivals.
So, either level the playing field, or fuck em all.
Hell, I'd like to shoot the motherfuckers on site. But that's not very presidential.

Sun, 08/16/2015 - 12:29 | 6432031 dirtscratcher
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@NoPension:

Dude, you just a bullseye. I'm in the same situation as your buddy. If anything, you've understated the dilemna of guys like us. It's the tragedy of the commons times ten, all condoned and facilitated by the corrupt government bureaucrats. 

One point of contention I have with those opposed to illegal immigration is the call to build a wall. Not needed and inneffective. I live in San Diego, in the shadow of the busiest border crossing in the world: Tijuana.

In the 1960's my Dad was a contractor, building residential housing. On every project of his and also those of every other builder, there was always a Mexican. One. That's it. he did menial labor like clean up or ditch digging or moving stacks of lumber. There was no border fence. The Tijuana border checkpoint existed only at the road and extended maybe a hundred yards to each side. Crossing illegally meant walking a mile or so around the checkpoint. It was a joke, but nothing more was necessary. Those illegals knew that they weren't welcome here and were forced to keep a low profile. None brought their families over. They came and worked for a while then took their cash stash home.

Now they come with their families and immediatly sign up for social benefits like public schooling, free medical care EBT, and even cash payouts. Their work ethic has changed since then as you have described. And no longer do they limit themselves to "jobs Americans don't want" That's bullshit. They exploit the competitive advantage derived by being invisible to the law, taking quality emploment away from American workers.

A wall can't fix that. Not a physical wall anyways. Only a barrier in the hearts and minds of  a society intent on protecting itself from this invasion will work. Nothing else is needed and nothing else will work.

Sun, 08/16/2015 - 12:42 | 6432064 NoPension
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" they exploit the competitive advantage derived by being invisible to the law"

I could write a thousand words, and not describe it more succinctly.

Sun, 08/16/2015 - 13:20 | 6432172 847328_3527
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Nopension has a point. The illegals now knock on the doors in the neighborhood looking for work asking to do yard work, hang mirrors, odd jobs, etc not for $10/hr....not for $30/hr....but for $60/hr ?!

 

It's gotten crazy.

Sun, 08/16/2015 - 16:31 | 6432830 greenskeeper carl
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no pension makes an excellent point, and its one Im very familiar with. When I was young  I worked for a few months for a friend of mine's landscaping business. Everytime we had a big job, especially laying sod in a big yard, one of us would go to this quiktrip gas station in a largly mexican part of town(this was a suburb of atlanta) and there would be between 20-50 mexicans sitting on a hill next to the gas station. They sat there waiting for people to pick them up, and all the landscaping and construction crews in the area knew about this place. after deciding how many extra people we needed, either me or my buddy would go over to the gas station and pick 2 or 3 of them up. Didnt hardly speak english, but all you had to say was i need three for laying sod, 50$ cash, and theyd climb in the truck. Theyd work from 7 in the morning until whenever the job was done, hard, all day in the georgia summer sun, for 50 in cash. Even though everyone in town knew about that gas station, they were mostly left alone. Every now and then the lawrenceville PD would get enough complaints and theyd go in there and clean the place out with INS, but a week later, 50 more of them were there on the hill.

Sun, 08/16/2015 - 20:16 | 6433604 logicalman
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I hang my own mirrors and odd jobs.

Saves me a fortune.

Used to fix my own car - when that was still possible - don't use one these days (also saves me a fortune!)

 

Sun, 08/16/2015 - 13:33 | 6432211 SFopolis
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Dirtscratcher and No Pension:

Your post are about as sucinct as can be.  All true.  I tend towards a liberal viewpoint, but I know there are limits to any ideology.  

Sun, 08/16/2015 - 16:29 | 6432824 Miffed Microbio...
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Every one of us that lives near the border knows the wall is a ridiculous idea. One just needs to look at China to see how well that worked at that was one hell of a wall. Deportation is too expensive. Make conditions right and they will leave on their own.

Miffed

Mon, 08/17/2015 - 13:33 | 6436094 mkkby
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You cannot be serious.  A wall could be patrolled by one drone that has an IR camera.  You'd see them coming from 30 miles away.

 

Sun, 08/16/2015 - 16:08 | 6432741 blown income
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Same here , I know a home framer and can't compete with insurance , workers comp , taxes etc..he still makes money but now he only does custom homes , so he can be paid what he's worth and pay his men a decent wage , the people building don't want their home built by cheap labor..

 

 

as for the delvepoers here in Lafayette La $2.50 a square foot to the illegals..

 

Sad the white man cutting our own for a buck.

Sun, 08/16/2015 - 22:48 | 6434135 Freddie
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You see em in the stores with their rug rat kids.   They have shopping carts filled with food and food stamp credit cards.   The stuff that does not qualify for EBT/WIC - they peel out a big wad of bills.

F illegals and the polictians owne dby the elites that import them.

Sun, 08/16/2015 - 12:07 | 6431953 iceCube
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"wish to keep a US American national identity". Gosh, no, who in his right mind would want that?

What's the difference between Americans and yogurt? If you leave yogurt alone for 200 years, it'll grow a culture.

Sun, 08/16/2015 - 11:18 | 6431754 Eirik Magnus Larssen
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As a person with blond hair and blue eyes, I never understood the Western media's unhealthy obsession with blond hair and blue eyes.

Sun, 08/16/2015 - 11:31 | 6431801 FreeShitter
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The west is a mongrelized society, ever been to any major city, to an NFL game? ....those traits are rare.

Sun, 08/16/2015 - 11:56 | 6431920 gimme soma dat
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As a woman with very fair skin I have to avoid such areas.  The apes grunt and comment at me like we're in the jungle but it's not legal for me to shoot them. 

Sun, 08/16/2015 - 15:12 | 6432558 Thick Willy
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And what's with tanning as a thing?  As if white people aren't beautiful.  Why burn your fair skin to become darker some like jungle dweller?

At least Asian women have that much right, you see them walking around under umbrellas because they don't want to get any darker.

Sun, 08/16/2015 - 22:59 | 6434169 Freddie
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Asians are an interesting bunch and can be pretty nasty racists and have been for thousands of years.  The lighter skin Asians look down on the darker skinned Thais, Vietnamese, Cambodians and others. 

Japanese have among the fairest skin.  Probably even lighter than Korean.  Thousands of years of mass genocide like any Asian kung fu, sho gun or whatever movie will show you why so many Asians hate year other.

Out of curiousity - are any Asians blue eyed?  I am not talking about Finns, Samii people et al. 

When it comes to women - I prefer blue eyes like my own.They are my tribe.

http://www.experienceproject.com/stories/Have-Blue-Eyes/548654

Blue eyed people are "mutants."   I am a replicant.

Sun, 08/16/2015 - 12:15 | 6431922 Clowns on Acid
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duurrppp.

Sun, 08/16/2015 - 12:00 | 6431934 Gavrikon
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It would be the attendant qualities of higher average intelligence, ability to delay gratification, self-control, etc.

Sun, 08/16/2015 - 12:15 | 6431985 Clowns on Acid
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It was your face that they complained about. Not hair or eyes.

Sun, 08/16/2015 - 13:30 | 6432196 Thick Willy
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Take a survey of men around the world and the results will show that fair skinned blonde women are universally seen as the most beautiful women on Earth.

Sun, 08/16/2015 - 13:52 | 6432247 Eirik Magnus Larssen
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According to the United States census bureau, a little over one million(!) white males are seen to marry non-white females every year.

http://www.census.gov/population/www/socdemo/hh-fam/cps2010.html

Facts and reality are rarely kind to right-wing fantasies.

Sun, 08/16/2015 - 13:52 | 6432278 Thick Willy
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Fantasies?  It's like you've never left Europe to see the filth, squalor, and disease the subhumans wallow in.  Fantasies?  It's like you know nothing of Haiti, Rhodesia, or South Africa and what happened after white people left/were murdered by blacks.  Fantasies?

Sun, 08/16/2015 - 13:55 | 6432283 Eirik Magnus Larssen
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I've never been to the American south, where individuals like yourself dwell. So no, I haven't seen the true depth of squalor and ignorance that certain sub-humans wallow in.

Sun, 08/16/2015 - 14:31 | 6432386 JenkinsLane
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You are a cunt.

Sun, 08/16/2015 - 15:09 | 6432549 Thick Willy
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So you're ignorant?  You have no idea of the savagery American blacks inflict upon all who come into contact with them?  So basically you need to check your fucking Scandinavian white privilege and shut the fuck up about shit you know nothing about.

And I have been to Sweden and Norway and Sweden is a lost cause.  Norway is a big empty moonscape once you get out of Oslo.  Norway is not beyond saving, but that's mostly thanks to the results of brother Brieviks good work and how it impacted Norwegian politics.

Sun, 08/16/2015 - 16:37 | 6432857 greenskeeper carl
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its obvious youve never been here. In rural GA, or even the suburbs, you will meet some of the nicest, friendliest, polite people youve ever seen. Im in florida now, and almost all the rude, inconsiderate ignorant people I encounter have one thing in common, regardless of race: they come from somewhere in the NE.

Sun, 08/16/2015 - 20:18 | 6433611 DrewJackson
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Yankees have fucked Florida and help make it a Sunny place for Shady Yankees.

Sun, 08/16/2015 - 23:29 | 6434233 greenskeeper carl
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yes they have. i have some in-laws in ocala, and thats about the only place here that ive seen that still has the 'old south' feel to it. anywhere near the coast, forget it. we are actually in the good time of the year right now. summer vacation is over now that school has started back, and all the snowbirds haven;t shown up yet. Early august to mid november is the best time of year down here.

Sun, 08/16/2015 - 18:01 | 6433161 Redneck Hippy
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As a denizen of the American South, let me say, "go fuck yourself."

Sun, 08/16/2015 - 20:42 | 6433693 logicalman
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Yes, Willy, you are THICK!

Sun, 08/16/2015 - 13:58 | 6432300 cheech_wizard
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German influence...pay attention to who migrated to the US and when, and you'll understand the obsession.

 

Sun, 08/16/2015 - 11:20 | 6431762 Bangin7GramRocks
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You couldn't throw 15 feet from second to first, but you are a smart man Chuck! Completely agree with that policy.

Sun, 08/16/2015 - 12:15 | 6431980 John Law Lives
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Do you think this person is the real McCoy?

 

Former baseball player Chuck Knoblauch arrested:

http://www.click2houston.com/news/former-baseball-player-chuck-knoblauch...

excerpt:

"Former pro baseball player and Houston native, Edward Charles “Chuck” Knoblauch, has been arrested and charged with assault family violence, the Harris County District Attorney’s Office records show."

Sun, 08/16/2015 - 12:28 | 6432028 Chuck Knoblauch
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It's a riddle, isn't it.

Figure it out and win a cigar.

Sun, 08/16/2015 - 16:38 | 6432864 greenskeeper carl
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I wouldn't read too much into it. Im not really a greenskeeper at bushwood country club. and my real name isn't carl

Sun, 08/16/2015 - 18:37 | 6433287 John Law Lives
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Thank you, Mr. Helper.  Carl is obviously a fictional character.  Chuck Knoblauch is a real person with a (reported) history with multiple divorces and arrests.

Sun, 08/16/2015 - 12:04 | 6431944 iceCube
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Thought you guys were so happy with your own fat, obese ones?

Sun, 08/16/2015 - 13:23 | 6432178 americanreality
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Increase immigration from Europe?   Why would they want to come here?  So they can get sick and go bankrupt in our failed health care system??  So they can become as fat as Americans?  So they can mingle with our upstanding minorities?  Holy shit are some of you dense.  Yay!  Let's move to America!  

Sun, 08/16/2015 - 15:39 | 6432646 de3de8
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He's got my vote

Sun, 08/16/2015 - 18:00 | 6433156 RevIdahoSpud3
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There was a time that I would have made this same statement but over the years I have come to realize that brunettes seen to age better and can be extremely attractive especially as they ripen to the age where no one knows what color the original hair was anyway. In any case, give me a blue eyed brunette, all natural of course and I'll give you twelve blonds in return. Note: Some blonds my come from Wal-Mart?

Sun, 08/16/2015 - 18:11 | 6433202 ?
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Don't forget blonde Czech girls. They have a lot less attitude than Swedes, Finns, Danes and Norwegians too.

Sun, 08/16/2015 - 21:14 | 6433827 jtlien
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Back in the 1980's, my beautiful, single young blond blue eyed second cousin from Norway came for a visit.

I took her out to dinner and was amazed on the number of men that hit on her ( including the waiters).

She told me about the problems she had with the immagration people.    You mean the Norwegian government wouldn't let you go?

No, it was the US government that was giving her grief.   They were worried she was going to marry someone and stay in the U.S.

It made me think about how messed up INS service was.    What is the constituancy they were serving?   Were they all gay?

Was there pressure from ugly, unmarried US women that were pushing this?   I still think this is one of the craziest things I ever heard about the

US government.

Sun, 08/16/2015 - 21:15 | 6433835 jtlien
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Back in the 1980's, my beautiful, single young blond blue eyed second cousin from Norway came for a visit.

I took her out to dinner and was amazed on the number of men that hit on her ( including the waiters).

She told me about the problems she had with the immagration people.    You mean the Norwegian government wouldn't let you go?

No, it was the US government that was giving her grief.   They were worried she was going to marry someone and stay in the U.S.

It made me think about how messed up INS service was.    What is the constituancy they were serving?   Were they all gay?

Was there pressure from ugly, unmarried US women that were pushing this?   I still think this is one of the craziest things I ever heard about the

US government.

Sun, 08/16/2015 - 10:48 | 6431659 klayton biggs bee
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But...but...but.  some might not have any money......." Fuck You Pay Me "!

Sun, 08/16/2015 - 10:49 | 6431663 WestVillageIdiot
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I find it frightening that any presidential candidate would openly discuss upholding the laws of this country.  What have we become?

Sun, 08/16/2015 - 12:47 | 6432079 lincolnsteffens
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The Devil is in the details. First of all it would be difficult to deport most of the illegal aliens simply by capture unless you are further going to be stopping everyone using the excuse of National Security or suspicious looking. The Nazis were pretty successful restricting the origins of people in Germany. Do we want to go there? We are currently headed there with thought crime and asset forfeiture.

Checking people legitimately caught up in criminal activity should be routine, subject to incarceration and then deportation.

Increasing penalties for employers of illegals would go a long way to removing the incentives for illegals to come.

Tracking foreign students who don't have verification of attending classes should also be a priority.

Raising usefulness criteria for residency and work permits should be implemented

Shortening the approval/rejection time will decrease desperation to seek illegal means to enter the USA.

Streamlining the application process to lower the cost or eliminate the need to use a lawyer will reduce the financial burden of application and eliminate lawyers who do little in order to steal  people's money.

Anything to do with increasing the police state should be rejected. I'm sure Trump would have good financial backing from corporations that benefit from increased surveillance.

Sun, 08/16/2015 - 14:32 | 6432391 Jack Burton
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I agree. Americans want some truth and some balls. Illegal immigration breaks US law, the local and federal cops will be at my door the instant I break one of their laws. But if you break the law of immigration, we are supposed to honor you as doing us a favor by coming? Liberals constantly say we should honor these people for coming to live here.

Trump should never budge on this, say "I will deport them!" Say it right in their faces "We will deport you, you have broken our laws."

Here folks, go to Mexico and break a law! They will fucking lock you up in a hell hole for a long time, and don't bother asking for a lawyer.

Mexico deports illegals at their southern border, this is fact!

So fuck yeah! Deport Illegals.

Sun, 08/16/2015 - 16:34 | 6432844 Miffed Microbio...
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The lucky ones get deported. For the most part, they are murdered in the most horrendous ways ( to discourage others). Working in a public hospital, I saw a few lucky survivors. To call Mexico hypocritical is an understatement but they do know how to deal with competition.

Miffed

Sun, 08/16/2015 - 18:36 | 6433276 Slomotrainwreck
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"EITHER WE HAVE A COUNTRY, OR WE DON'T"

We will always have a country, regardless.

What we don't have is freedom from a coercive government.

Sun, 08/16/2015 - 18:54 | 6433355 Max Cynical
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The pro illegal alien crowd tosses around the 10M number of "undocumented" illegal aliens...watch that become 50M when the conversation to deport them all becomes mainstream.

Sun, 08/16/2015 - 10:44 | 6431649 tmosley
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He also wants to invade Iran and steal their oil, in precisely those words.

https://www.lewrockwell.com/lrc-blog/trumpian-foreign-policy/

Sun, 08/16/2015 - 11:22 | 6431773 NotApplicable
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Well, who wouldn't want to own oilfields where ya just have to poke a hole in the sand? Worked in southern Iraq, after all.

Sun, 08/16/2015 - 16:43 | 6432880 greenskeeper carl
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yep. I ve pointed that out too, no one seems to care. Its pretty revealing about america that a person can say he will invade another country and steal the most precious commodity in the world(energy) from the people who live there and get applause for it. People seem to have already forgotten how that worked out last time, or they seem to think that despite mountains of evidence to the contrary, it will somehow end well this time

Mon, 08/17/2015 - 03:23 | 6434545 Rogue Trooper
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WTF with the down-arrows.... MORON's you want a of bunch of euro-commie-eunich's on your patch.  You're fucked up with enough progressives as it is.

Sure, the prevalence of a few Tuco Salamaca types is somewhat disconcerting.  But at least you still have the odd AR15 to deal with things.  But eurortrash kiss that 2nd goodbye.

This is not about you, you loose the 2nd, and I'm fucked in my localle.

... Headbanger, obviously a tough crowed today Bro.

Sun, 08/16/2015 - 11:13 | 6431735 piratepiet2
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yes, please

Sun, 08/16/2015 - 12:08 | 6431942 Jumbotron
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You stupid, ignorant assholes who are getting a hard on for Trump.

Trump KNOWS.....KNOWS for a meta-physical and quantum physical fact that he WILL NEVER GET ELECTED !!  Hence his seemingly titanium coated brass balls.

What does he care?  He will have a mulit-million dollar job after he loses.  He doesn't care.  And like he would be allowed to do the things he is speaking of.  THAT'S WHY WE HAVE 3 FUCKING BRANCHES OF GOVERMENT YOU STUPID TURDS !!

So you all got fucked by King Obama.  Now you want King Trump.  I thought the Founding Fathers fought a revolution to END THAT SHIT !!

America is and was doomed from the begininng not by outsiders, or insiders in poli-trix or from the elite.  It was doomed because of the quality of the citizenry.  Pure and simple.  The citizens have always had the right to overthrow their government and the eltie.  If not through their elected officials but through revolution.  But after the 3 Civil Wars we have had ( THAT'S RIGHT....3. Shay's Rebellion, The Whiskey Rebellion and the War Against Northren Aggression), the citizen's have completely capitulated.  As George Carlin said,  " Maybe, just maybe, it's not the Politicians who suck.  Maybe it's.......the public.  Yeah, there's a bumper sticker for ya'.  THE PUBLIC SUCKS !  FUCK HOPE !  FUCK HOPE ! "

And after seeing the poll numbers for that piece of shit of humanity Trump, not to mention our past Presidents Clinton, Bush (the retard) and Obama, then I know for a fact the American Public Sucks !!

 

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shays'_Rebellion

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whiskey_Rebellion

 

And the great George Carlin on why the public sucks

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PUywG-VXhug

Sun, 08/16/2015 - 12:19 | 6431996 tmosley
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I guess you forgot about human nature. People tend to vote in strongmen who stand against the system that has harmed them during or immediately after a crisis. Trump is most assuredly a strongman-type leader.

Sun, 08/16/2015 - 12:51 | 6432093 lincolnsteffens
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You forgot the gullibility of the public to believe someone who lies with great emotion and sincerity. It is the simplest form of mind control and it works.

Sun, 08/16/2015 - 13:24 | 6432185 GMadScientist
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Especially when said someone lies in a way that makes them vigorously nod their heads in agreement.

Mon, 08/17/2015 - 01:26 | 6434413 drendebe10
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The fudgepacker proved it in 2008 & 2012

Sun, 08/16/2015 - 12:25 | 6432018 Dasa Slooofoot
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he WILL NEVER GET ELECTED !!  Hence his seemingly titanium coated brass balls.

 

OK.  But i'm attributing his "brass balls" to good ol' fuck you money.  

Sun, 08/16/2015 - 16:13 | 6432759 de3de8
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Jumbo,
Don't disagree with your post but I see him as our best chance as what you propose ain't gonna happen

Sun, 08/16/2015 - 12:09 | 6431960 Thick Willy
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Europe is the white homeland.  America is already a non-white country.  Why would anyone from beautiful Europe immigrate to be butchered by non-whites in America's disgusting cities?

White Americans should return to the white homeland.  That's what should happen.

Sun, 08/16/2015 - 12:20 | 6432000 Chuck Knoblauch
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I don't like the taste of your bait, friend.

Protestants have guns too.

Sun, 08/16/2015 - 12:26 | 6432025 Bangin7GramRocks
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You first WHITE DEVIL

Mon, 08/17/2015 - 00:59 | 6434370 neilhorn
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Please say that a little bit louder. Not everone heard you.

Just a little bit louder now.

Sun, 08/16/2015 - 13:26 | 6432187 Eirik Magnus Larssen
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Right-wing, white supremacist Bible-thumpers are not particularly wanted anywhere. And that includes Europe.

Sun, 08/16/2015 - 13:39 | 6432226 Thick Willy
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Women always like strong men.  The pendulum is swinging back as the refugees and dindus rampage across Europe and women, as always, are looking for someone to protect them.  Someone that isn't a cucked Swedish race traitor like yourself.

Sun, 08/16/2015 - 21:41 | 6433883 psychobilly
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Episode 4: Return of the Swede
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZIOu5_G4Uc4

Maybe "Eirik" is one of those freaks who likes to watch?  Living in the rape capital of Europe might be titilating for him.

Mon, 08/17/2015 - 01:00 | 6434372 neilhorn
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I wish I was a strong man, so women would like me.

Mon, 08/17/2015 - 03:45 | 6434559 Rogue Trooper
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Yo Eirik, shelf that 'Taupe' suit you bought back in August 2014.  We is no u dig tha' nigga... wishin'u es reggie 'an all dat.

... gonna be interesting when Europe falls back to their full-nazi roots.... history may not exactly repeat but it sure does rhyme.

Fuck you Europe, you bought into this dog, so pay the interest.... and BTW euro-tard, I'm not 'merican and I'm far, far away.

Sun, 08/16/2015 - 15:27 | 6432607 agent default
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Well according to this the US is already funding the mass imigration towards Europe:

https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&...

Sun, 08/16/2015 - 16:33 | 6432839 artichoke
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With the racial and economic issues going on over there, we could get some high quality from there.  Gotta screen, don't want their refugees bouncing to here,  but I'd take the average there over the average illegal immigrant crossing the southern border, in a heartbeat.

Sun, 08/16/2015 - 20:48 | 6433721 deimos178
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Si se puede

Mon, 08/17/2015 - 00:54 | 6434365 neilhorn
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Deport the EuroAsian-Balkan-Levant MFs that want moar welfare. Not every immigrant is Mexican.

Mon, 08/17/2015 - 01:23 | 6434408 drendebe10
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Ship out ALL the illegal aliens out and start with the illegal indonesian kenyan alien muslim fudgepacker first!

Mon, 08/17/2015 - 03:55 | 6434579 EurGold
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Buy Gold, Silver, Platinum and Palladium

https://www.eurgold.eu

Sun, 08/16/2015 - 10:31 | 6431614 kaiserhoff
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Trump just won the election,

  if there is one.

Hildabeast for Prisoner, 2016

Sun, 08/16/2015 - 10:32 | 6431616 SoilMyselfRotten
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Election, maybe, the candidacy? Yep

Sun, 08/16/2015 - 10:55 | 6431678 WestVillageIdiot
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"EITHER WE HAVE A COUNTRY, OR WE DON'T"

If the Trump campaign were smart they would immediately make that their campaign slogan.  Put that line on t-shirts, bumper stickers, posters, billboards, any place you can.  And just watch how that energizes people.

Sun, 08/16/2015 - 11:56 | 6431921 CitizenPete
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They should put the slogan "EITHER WE HAVE A COUNTRY, OR WE DON'T" on the FEDERAL RESERVE BANK Note, and Federal Park (a.k.a  United Nations, INTERNATIONAL BIOSPHERE RESERVES) trash cans.

Sun, 08/16/2015 - 13:39 | 6432230 Thick Willy
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"EITHER WE HAVE A COUNTRY, OR WE DON'T"

vs.

"WHAT DIFFERENCE, AT THIS POINT, DOES IT MAKE?!"

Sun, 08/16/2015 - 10:35 | 6431627 Winston Churchill
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You may be right, just as well he isn't part of the status quo.

Oh wait....

Sun, 08/16/2015 - 11:14 | 6431741 EhKnowKneeMass
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2004--"Anybody but Bush"
2016--"Anybody but Bush/Anybody but Clinton"
2020--"Anybody but X"
In the meantime, the country gets gutted.

We are all looking for a savior; however, there is none. Nobody can save us; we can only save ourselves. Fuck all the faux leaders (dealers) out there... save yourself and you will save the country.

It seems many ZHers are closet republicans/democrats, but pretending to be libertarians. What a fake world we live in.

We have met the enemy and he is us--Pogo

Sun, 08/16/2015 - 14:12 | 6432335 Salah
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meanwhile Bill Clinton "just happened" to being playing the SAME golfcourse at about the SAME TIME as O'Bozo yesterday 

IF YOU BELIEVE THIS...YOU'RE FUCKING STUPID

http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message2930146/pg1

Sun, 08/16/2015 - 10:32 | 6431615 Newsboy
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"You (cheap imported workers) are FIRED!"

You (Americans holding Social Security Trust Fund T-bills) are FUCKED!"

Trump, Fascism with an AMERICAN aftertaste.

Sun, 08/16/2015 - 10:41 | 6431632 Oh regional Indian
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Look at all the Trumpettes get a hard on with this one...

Soundbyte DUCK....WH probable, joke is on Amerika....

Why does Donald love his hair-plugs?

Cause they've always got him COVERED ;-)

BTW, La Razza will explode, MS 13, all th elatin gangs, tightly contolled, will EXPLODE, just look at all the hint hint violence across the border...

This kind of bombast shows the exact degree of shallow-ness of his candid-acey...

 

Sun, 08/16/2015 - 10:58 | 6431690 WestVillageIdiot
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You are right, of course.  All policies should be based upon the goal of not offending people.  Thank you for the insight.

Sun, 08/16/2015 - 11:01 | 6431700 Oh regional Indian
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In case you missed my point WVI:

POPULISM vs. REALISM

C?

Sun, 08/16/2015 - 11:22 | 6431772 Grimaldus
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"BTW, La Razza will explode, MS 13, all th elatin gangs, tightly contolled, will EXPLODE, just look at all the hint hint violence across the border..."

 

Hellfire missiles have that effect.

 

Do you routinely bend over for criminals ORI?

 

 

Grimaldus

Sun, 08/16/2015 - 11:30 | 6431806 flysofree
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Send all the Paki/Taliban and Indian/Muslims back to India too. Cali was great before all the IT Indians.

Sun, 08/16/2015 - 12:32 | 6432041 christiangustafson
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GTFO

Sun, 08/16/2015 - 13:42 | 6432239 Thick Willy
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Hahahhahahahaa.  I wish.  I wish so much you cannot imagine.  It would be a slaughter.  A few million illiterate Mexicans against the world's most powerful military, 30 million war veterans, etc. etc.?  Yes, please bring me some of that.  I hope the Left and their non-white minions are dumb enough to escalate this to violence.  This is literally my dream come true.

Sun, 08/16/2015 - 16:18 | 6432780 de3de8
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Regional Indian,
Yeah, that's what we should be afraid of, stirring up the Mexican gangs!
WTF

Sun, 08/16/2015 - 10:57 | 6431686 WestVillageIdiot
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Are those workers really cheap when you look at total costs involved?  Or are you just counting the wage they get from their employer?  The word "cheap" is like the word "fair".  Be careful who you let define those words.  They can really sting.

Sun, 08/16/2015 - 11:38 | 6431843 drchris
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Not cheap at all. Especially when you replace legal labor with cheaper illegal labor and claim there is no inflation. 

Sun, 08/16/2015 - 11:25 | 6431752 Eirik Magnus Larssen
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Masks are falling off, and demagogues are ascending. I've been closely following the American presidential candidates, as well as the race for leadership for the Labour party in the United Kingdom. There exists an unusual amount of ideological confusion in our time across the political spectrum.

Transitional phases are certainly not new, but there's something different about this. These are frictions that speak not just to the "us vs them"-related turmoil of previous transitional phases that societies have went through; they also reflect growing internal conflict within movements about pricincples and direction. The phenomenon appears detrimental to the mainstream parties in particular, which are typically the pillars of society...

Sometimes, I think perhaps the best that people can all do is patiently endure the confusion, and await the world's first ASI (Artificial Superintelligence). Far from science fiction, this historical event seems likely to occur within our lifetimes. It will be the ultimate game changer--for better or worse.

http://waitbutwhy.com/2015/01/artificial-intelligence-revolution-1.html

Sun, 08/16/2015 - 11:40 | 6431857 Bananamerican
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ASI (Artificial Superintelligence) in the hands of the 1% = awesome sauce

Sun, 08/16/2015 - 13:37 | 6432195 Eirik Magnus Larssen
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I rarely say this, but social class has no relevance in this. An ISA represents recursive self-improvement. You might be the next Edward Witten or be afflicted with Dow-syndrome; before an ISA the distinction is imperceptible. It has the potential to literally be trillions of times more intelligent than a human being, across the board.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MnT1xgZgkpk

Sun, 08/16/2015 - 13:43 | 6432243 Thick Willy
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Compared to negroids whites are super intelligent so I'm not even sure where you're going with this.  Can sci-fi magic AI turn blacks into people?  Doubtful.

Sun, 08/16/2015 - 14:57 | 6432504 Eirik Magnus Larssen
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White supremacists are living proof that notions of racial superiority are without basis in biology. You seem only suitable for bagging my wife's groceries, or mowing our lawn.

Sun, 08/16/2015 - 17:23 | 6433020 greenskeeper carl
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i believe the point he is making is that blacks, on average, only have about an 85 IQ in america, much lower than whites, asians, and jews. This is also why every american city which has a majority black population is a shithole. It is also why there is not a single functioning country in subsaharan africa. They can't even maintain an already functional society once all the white people leave. I don't consider myself a white supremicist or anything like that, Im just pointing out facts that are easily verifiable.

Sun, 08/16/2015 - 16:21 | 6432792 de3de8
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Hopefully I outlive AI implementation

Sun, 08/16/2015 - 22:05 | 6434001 psychobilly
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"...the mainstream parties in particular, which are typically the pillars of society..."

lol.  That you, MDB?

Sun, 08/16/2015 - 12:10 | 6431968 Thick Willy
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That's what Switzerland does.  And Switzerland is a great country with one of the highest average household incomes in the world.

Sun, 08/16/2015 - 18:33 | 6433264 FireBrander
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Who's going to pick the strawberries, watermelons and those wine grapes... clean the hotel rooms and keep up the landscaping?

If I was an Hispanic ''leader'', I'd call for a global Trump walkout MONTH of all his businesses... he'd be filing for bankruptcy in short order.

I'm not pro illegal immigration, but Trump has declared war and i'd like to see the other side fire a few salvos just for kicks.

Sun, 08/16/2015 - 21:17 | 6433841 astitchintime
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Who's going to pick the strawberries, watermelons and those wine grapes... clean the hotel rooms and keep up the landscaping?

Well, just a few decades ago it was our youngsters who provided those services (I was one of them)

As a result, now none of our youngsters have summer employment.

Sun, 08/16/2015 - 18:41 | 6433306 Slomotrainwreck
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Talk about the "lesser of the evils", The Trump is the "Greatest evil of them all"

Sun, 08/16/2015 - 10:35 | 6431624 Tarshatha
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It wont happen, sovereign death by immigration is a global agenda.

Trump is either lying or has no idea who he's up against, I would bet my house on it.

Sun, 08/16/2015 - 10:43 | 6431645 A82EBA
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Trump will have a pen and a phone. I want to see him tear shit up.

Sun, 08/16/2015 - 11:11 | 6431725 rbg81
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There is absolutely a Globalist agenda to fill First World countries will Third Worlders for the purpose of making everyplace look like Rio or Mexico City.  Why?  Simply because the newcomers will demand Socialism and bigger Government and will vote the way they're told.

Sun, 08/16/2015 - 11:23 | 6431777 PT
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No.  It's all about replacing twenty dollar per hour slaves with two dollar per hour slaves.  The locals will whinge.  The immigrants are used to it.

Sun, 08/16/2015 - 12:09 | 6431963 rbg81
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It's all tied together.  The sub minimum wage workers don't pay taxes, but reap Government benefits as "clients".  Basically, without this formula, they'd go back home.

Sun, 08/16/2015 - 11:43 | 6431868 Bananamerican
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illegals are like pathogens invading a festering wound and that wound IS globalism.

How are you going to bring about a one world .gov unless you first strip away sovereign "identities" by sifting everyone "together"?

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