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Immigration - Issue Of The Century

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Submitted by Patrick Buchanan via Buchanan.org,

“Trump’s immigration proposals are as dangerous as they are stunning,” railed amnesty activist Frank Sharry.

“Trump ... promises to rescind protections for Dreamers and deport them. He wants to redefine the constitutional definition of U.S. citizenship as codified by the 14th Amendment. He plans to impose a moratorium on legal immigration.”

While Sharry is a bit hysterical, he is not entirely wrong.

For the six-page policy paper, to secure America’s border and send back aliens here illegally, released by Trump last weekend, is the toughest, most comprehensive, stunning immigration proposal of the election cycle.

The Trump folks were aided by people around Sen. Jeff Sessions who says Trump’s plan “reestablishes the principle that America’s immigration laws should serve the interests of its own citizens.”

The issue is joined, the battle lines are drawn, and the GOP will debate and may decide which way America shall go. And the basic issues — how to secure our borders, whether to repatriate the millions here illegally, whether to declare a moratorium on immigration into the USA — are part of a greater question.

Will the West endure, or disappear by the century’s end as another lost civilization? Mass immigration, if it continues, will be more decisive in deciding the fate of the West than Islamist terrorism. For the world is invading the West.

A wild exaggeration? Consider.

Monday’s Washington Post had a front-page story on an “escalating rash of violent attacks against refugees,” in Germany, including arson attacks on refugee centers and physical assaults.

Burled in the story was an astonishing statistic. Germany, which took in 174,000 asylum seekers last year, is on schedule to take in 500,000 this year. Yet Germany is smaller than Montana.

How long can a geographically limited and crowded German nation, already experiencing ugly racial conflict, take in half a million Third World people every year without tearing itself apart, and changing the character of the nation forever?

Do we think the riots and racial wars will stop if more come?

And these refugees, asylum seekers and illegal immigrants are not going to stop coming to Europe. For they are being driven across the Med by wars in Libya, Syria, Iraq, Afghanistan and Yemen, by the horrific conditions in Eritrea, Ethiopia, Somalia and Sudan, by the Islamist terrorism of the Mideast and the abject poverty of the sub-Sahara.

According to the U.N., Africa had 1.1 billion people by 2013, will double that to 2.4 billion by 2050, and double that to 4.2 billion by 2100.

How many of these billions dream of coming to Europe? When and why will they stop coming? How many can Europe absorb without going bankrupt and changing the continent forever?

Does Europe have the toughness to seal its borders and send back the intruders? Or is Europe so morally paralyzed it has become what Jean Raspail mocked in “The Camp of the Saints”?

The blazing issue in Britain and France is the thousands of Arab and African asylum seekers clustered about Calais to traverse the Eurotunnel to Dover. The Brits are on fire. Millions want out of the EU. They want to remain who they are.

Each week we read of boats sinking in the Med with hundreds of refugees drowning. Yet many, many more make it to the Greek and Italian islands, and thence north to Germany and Scandinavia and the welfare states of Western Europe. Once they step onto EU soil, they are in.

This unending invasion has called into existence anti-immigrant and anti-EU parties in almost every country in Europe. Few of these parties existed at the turn of the century. How does this all end?

“Humankind cannot bear very much reality,” wrote T. S. Eliot.

Is the West still blind to reality, to the inevitable future that awaits if the West does not secure its frontiers and close its borders to mass immigration?

Peoples of European descent, everywhere they live, have birth rates below replacement levels. Yet, most live in the world’s most desirable neighborhoods.

The great and growing populations of mankind are in the Third World. Countless millions are determined to come to the West, legally if they can, illegally if they must. And the more who succeed, the more who come.

Either Western nations take tough measures to secure their borders, or the Western nations will be swamped. The character of their countries will be altered forever, and smaller countries will become unrecognizable. And as this is happening, ethnic and racial clashes will become more common, as they are now becoming across Europe.

“The principle that America’s immigration laws should serve the interests of its own citizens” is paramount, said Sen. Sessions.

Sessions is right. America is our home. We decide who comes in and who does not, how large the American family becomes, whom we adopt and whence they come. It has become the issue of 2016.

Indeed, it is the issue of the 21st century.

 

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Sun, 08/23/2015 - 01:29 | 6457199 monad
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You're ignorant. I'll see you again.

You won't like it.

Tue, 08/18/2015 - 14:54 | 6440120 Manipuflation
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I have only trying to get the hell out of here.  I have no idea why people come here other than for the "free shit" that I have to pay for.  I am not sure about my upcoming trip to Russia because it is full retard expensive.  When you are young and single you can do shit but when when you are married with children like me the price tag goes WAY up and that is just airfare.  We aren't even talking about hotels because we have places to stay Russia. 

Getting to St. Petersburg from Minneapolis back is only $675 per person which is not bad.  It's the 1400 mile trek from St Peterburg to Pyatigorsk where it starts costing a lot.  I told Mr.s M that we would just buy a shitty Russian car and drive there.  Mrs. M just looked at me and asked if I was an idiot.  It is a ridiculous proposition I know but I have to hear what she has to say.  I upped the ante and told her that I wanted to end up in Abkhazia where there is no central bank and no government.  She said they would kill me and that she would like to visit there.:-)

The discussion is still ongoing about this drive north to south in Russia notion.  Mrs. M just said that I would be buying gasoline with donkey piss in it.  I have never heard that one before.;-)  Then she said "they" will chew  you up and spit you out.  She might have a point about the gasoline and she said the roads are shit.  I knew that much to begin with.  I am a good wrench but that is a lot of kilometerage.  I don't know anyone who has done St. Petersburg to Pyatigorsk by car/truck.  Mrs. M knows that I am just dumb enough to try it because I am a redneck country boy who has seen his fair share of washed out dirt roads and corn fields where you had better have a chainsaw with to clear the fallen trees.  I do not think it should be done alone though.  Any of you want to give it a try?  It would probably be sometime in late November/December.  It would be the trip/fiasco of a lifetime.

Or we can just keep stacking which is fine too.         

Tue, 08/18/2015 - 15:04 | 6440199 Manipuflation
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I have a Russian cousin-in-law in St. Petersburg who likes to drink vodka straight out of the bottle with no shirt on and still makes 10K a month.  I have no idea how he pulls that off but we could have him buy us what we need for vehicles.  I can help with any of the invitation bullshit if need be if you are Merican.  I am certian it would interesting to say the least. 

Tue, 08/18/2015 - 15:56 | 6440425 headhunt
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Nice place to visit but you don't want to live there, unless you have lots and lots of money.

 

Tue, 08/18/2015 - 18:55 | 6441132 Manipuflation
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That is true headhunt.  Russian women are expensive too these days and they are getting awfully mouthy.  We went shopping for some diamond earings and ended up with a bunch of Newfoundland silver coins.  How did that happen?  Because I am an asshole is why.  There are not that many people in the world who would know what I bought because that is a lot of reading.  I knew exactly what I was doing.  Mrs, M was pissed off at me and called fail...until she looked up the prices of what I bought.  "How do you know the prices?", she asked.  Maybe because I don't fuck around on FaceFuck and I have reading to do? 

There is an issue with getting Russian coins out of Russia these days.  Fucking bullshit "embargo".  Most Russians don't have the coins anyway because assholes like me do.  None of it is cheap either. 

 

Tue, 08/18/2015 - 14:53 | 6440143 ToSoft4Truth
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'codified by the 14th Amendment'

 

Laws now matter again while Hillary obstructs and Boehner gets drunk (at least he does something)???  Laughable.

Tue, 08/18/2015 - 16:10 | 6440507 rejected
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Some laws are more equal than others.

Tue, 08/18/2015 - 17:30 | 6440151 libertysghost
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Republican corporatist statists destroying the economy so they and their friends can consolidate it want to talk about" immigration".

Democratic corporatist statists destroying the economy so they and their friends can consolidate it want to talk about "raising the minimum wage".

 

Neither want to talk about the real reasons why you can't make a decent living or find a good job.  Do I need to say anything else?  

 

Pat's a plant...has been for years.

Tue, 08/18/2015 - 17:31 | 6440836 libertysghost
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down votes without a rebuttal...cowards.  Go ahead, beg your government to "save you"...

Tue, 08/18/2015 - 14:57 | 6440160 libertysghost
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No Pat, the issue of the century is the end of the nation state system.  It is becoming a liability to freedom, not a requirement for it.  Less centralization of economics and politics is the answer and no where in Trump's plan does it recongize that.  It's fear mondering the ways Southern elites used fear mongering to convince poor whites to fight for slavery at times.

Tue, 08/18/2015 - 15:26 | 6440300 TeethVillage88s
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I like to think the Ivy League took over a lot of political appointments and began taking about the USA with various agendas. But probably would never want to be a teacher and be forced to use watered down history books and get yelled at by parents.

Still what a waste to see laws dropped and our citizens lose individual rights while we see real crimes being down by criminals allowed to do anything.

Department of Education:
Total Office of English Language Acquisition 2014 = $736 Million
Total Office of English Language Acquisition 2013 = $696 Million
Total Office of English Language Acquisition 2012 = $727 Million
Total Office of English Language Acquisition 2011 = $782 Million

Hard to tell all the money that is spent on Illegals through Depart of Education.

Tue, 08/18/2015 - 15:01 | 6440177 Thick Willy
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I'm sure those African and Muslim refugees that got attacked in Germany dindunuffin.  You know, except rob, mug, rape, and murder Germans.  'Cuz Germans are well known to be murderous brutes that attack people randomly for no reason.  NO REASON.  Like the 16 gorillion in the Shoah.  FOR NO REASON.

 

Why, Germany is one of the worst and most violent nations on Earth.  One cannot walk down the streets of Würzberg without being assaulted by vicious Germans.  White people be vishus.  Violins is in they jeans.

 

Oh wait.  Modern Germans are extremely pacifist, non-violent, and Germany has one of the lowest crime rates in the world.  So just what are these "refugees" doing to get "attacked?"  How many times do you let your sister get raped before you find out who did it and get some pay back?  How many times do you let your grandfather get mugged in the streets before you find out who did it and take the fight to them?  Just when DO you fight back, white man?  When?

Tue, 08/18/2015 - 16:05 | 6440479 falak pema
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when you stop invading other people's lands Asshole!

Tue, 08/18/2015 - 15:03 | 6440184 The_Prisoner
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'Islamic terrorism' is another version American-sponsored State Terrorism.

This piece has so many holes in it you'd be able to drive Trump's ego through it.

Tue, 08/18/2015 - 15:06 | 6440209 bshirley1968
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Fed gov learned in 1861 what to do with a bunch of socialistic foreigners.  Give them a gun and uniform and send them in hoards to destroy free thinking real Americans.  They used thousands of Italians, Irish, and German imigrants to invade and oppress the South.  Many forget that the families that lived in the south had been there for 150 years before the Civil War broke out.  Most of the "Yankees" didn't even know why they were fighting.  Just about like our military today.  Oh, they were told why, just like some of you today think you know why, but the truth was far from the reason they were told to go and kill.

Some of you punks on this thread need to remember that there were plenty of slaves up in the North.  That the Emancipation Proclamation only freed the slaves in the South, was proclaimed two years after the war started, and slavery was never the reason for the War.  It was used as a sympathetic cop-out..........just like today.  Like when we create ISIS and their type and then justify going to war with them because they are ........killing Jews! (that didn't work)........killing christians! (that didn't work).........killing women and children! (that didn't work).........selling women into slavery!..........beheading reporters!  Whatevers it takes! to get you sheeple worked up, funding and filling our War Machine!

Tue, 08/18/2015 - 15:26 | 6440240 Felix da Kat
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 The biggest story of the century is the coming demographic shift in the United States, Europe and Canada which will result in the dilution and eventual end of western culture as we know it today. The internet has given rise to a new awareness level for billions of poor, non-westerners throughout the world who now want their fair share; they also, want what we have. For example, Africa is set to quadruple its population over the next 50 years to more than four billion people. Asia and most of the world's Islamic countries have similar population trajectories. With western politicians pandering for votes, there will be few if any, barriers to open immigration. Indeed, in the United States, wholesale immigration is being pushed upon the American people against their will as millions of poor come here unobstructed to game the system and reap the social-services bounty that awaits. Democrat politicians want more democrat voters and immigrants vote democrat because that is where the "freebies" are.

Meanwhile, the pope says that those who oppose immigration and immigrant rights are criminal in taking such action. And he lives in a walled, gated community (Vatican City), well insulated from the realities of massive immigration and its effect on western culture. The MSM is trying to make it a hate-crime to like ones own culture the way it is; undiluted by peoples who neither respect nor appreciate what has taken generations to develop. And the Muslims who are pouring into America subscribe to a religion that prohibits assimilation. Many are Islamic supremecists who will revolt for Sharia law; and those in the way of that, will be casualties on the way to where many of these Islamic invaders need to be.  

I think it was Alexis Carrel who wrote, "He who sees the beginning in the end and the end in the beginning is the wisest of men". In regard to issues of immigration, it doesn't take a genius to see how open immigration will play-out in 50 years.

Tue, 08/18/2015 - 15:13 | 6440243 loregnum
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Funny when people in a country built by immigration complain about...immigration.

I guess it's a case where it is OK if the immigrants are white and Irish (and were your great ancestors) but not OK if they are dark skinned or (the horror) Muslims.

Obviously one would want immigration to be held in check but to act like borders should be closed off is ridiculous. How about a country gets rid of all its useless people first before closing the border off to people who may actually have value.

 

Tue, 08/18/2015 - 15:22 | 6440282 Thick Willy
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You have to be literally retarded to believe as you do.  The world is full of glorious white nations and full of absolute nightmarish shithole non-white nations.  Non-whites are incompatible with what whites consider civilization.  Simple truth.

Tue, 08/18/2015 - 15:30 | 6440311 falak pema
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more like simple tooth. How do u make "tooth" into "truth" ?

Tue, 08/18/2015 - 15:18 | 6440258 falak pema
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Its hilarious to see the sons of the Mayflower now rant about "other races" that come to replace them.

Those of the Mayflower raped the AMerindians, the Pocahontas, of their heritage of lost virgin continent.

Well, the wheel turns and Karma/Nemesis seems to be an eternal human problem as each "race" submits to the next..

So as Esmeralda's gypsy train was barred the route outside of Paris's gates in 1480, by the soldiers of Frankish king,  they responded to the soldier's dictat of "no foreigners" in Paris by : You came here a thousand years ago. Now its our turn.

Victor Hugo saw it right then !  Not that France has changed that much in mentality although it has a time line of mixed races. But that is because the Revolution said: doesn't matter the skin colour or origin, just sing the BLOODY Marseillaise!

What unites us in not race, but logic and intelligence, aka culture. Viva Aristotle.  Vive La Bouillabaise!

Its just a question of knowing how to share provided we don't kill all the fish in the seas!

Tue, 08/18/2015 - 15:21 | 6440278 Thick Willy
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Who taught you English you mud creature?   Some evil British cunt I'm sure.

Fuck off, white men are speaking.

Tue, 08/18/2015 - 15:27 | 6440285 falak pema
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A poor man's made out of muscle and blood... and a rich mans made out of Abraham's mud. Choose!

BTW : Victor Hugo was white, in fact whiter, aka more European, than Jesus !

Yikes!

So where are u from, the Appalachian yonder backs?  Still fracking white man's "god's little acre"?

Tue, 08/18/2015 - 16:07 | 6440487 rejected
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Saint Peter don't you call me, cause I can't go...

I owe my soul to the company store...

no truer words spoken for most of us trapped souls in todays and apparently yesterdays world... only today we call it a career.

Tue, 08/18/2015 - 16:58 | 6440713 PresidentCamacho
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Take your hippy bullshit and shove it up your ass, what unites us common thinking and understanding and ways of interacting. These are largely formed by genetics.

Don't be anti science.

 

Tue, 08/18/2015 - 18:13 | 6440944 falak pema
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genetics like genesis shows  the best example of Cain hating Abel if you be a bible believer.

You only have to look at BLOOD LINE to see how much MAYHEM the same tribes commit amongst themselves.

Its the story of civilization's death cross. Cross fertilization is what regenerates the races.

The bloodiest war the US fought was CIVIL WAR. Its true for every nation in history.

How did you mix science with history without understanding that?  You have to be born in a brain dead, incestuous breed, the same that  killed every dynasty.

Son of Memphis, died in valley of kings, buried under sand for three thousand years.  Thats blood line.

BTW / race and citizenship are separate issues. These nuts who post here are purposely mixing them up to spout xenophobia. Don't fall for it. Citizenship is a separate issue.

Having said that the Oligarchy always like illegal aliens to do their menial work for a pittance and contribute to local GDP in billions thanks to "temp" cheap labour. So the same guys who like cheap labour to mow their lawns and pick their fruit don't like to give them permanent residentship: all the while raping their country of RMs and ensuring they stay backward nations on the hook of Oligarchy. Its a win win for Oligarchy. As for the middle class you lose both ways. So wake up its not the illegals its the tilted socio-economic table of Oligarchy control.

Tue, 08/18/2015 - 15:22 | 6440283 Savvy
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The world is so god damn sick of you americans. As individuals you're not always pathetic but as a nation you're a bunch of stunned cunts.

Tue, 08/18/2015 - 15:44 | 6440373 headhunt
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Here you go... Fuck you.

Tue, 08/18/2015 - 15:44 | 6440374 falak pema
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stunned cunts is awesome alliteration. How about hun's cunts. Now that is onomatopoeia! Sounds really barbarian.

One is rhyme the other is mood! Mood is just awesome.

There is something Hunnish about the Americans today; no question on that : where no grass grows again !

Tue, 08/18/2015 - 16:15 | 6440535 headhunt
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Really it would have to be something like - 'StuuunnndCuuuunts' hooted

Tue, 08/18/2015 - 21:09 | 6441729 PN7
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There was a racehorse named Cunning Stunt.  Race announcer Fred Capocella reportedly gave up his job rather than risk making a mistake when calling her races.

Tue, 08/18/2015 - 15:49 | 6440396 Ms No
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Are you volunteering to take 20 million Mexicans and Central Americans of mystery background and paying to educated them etc.?  Sweet, pretty sure you'll feel like a stunned cunt when that process is over too. 

Tue, 08/18/2015 - 15:23 | 6440288 Thick Willy
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It will be extremely easy to expunge all illegal aliens from the United States.  When Donald Trump is elected president I am returning to the U.S. to join a law enforcement agency and help deport the millions of illegals from the United States.

I am 100% serious about this and 100% ready to die to protect my nation and my people from invaders.  It would be an honor.

Tue, 08/18/2015 - 15:36 | 6440333 falak pema
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Heil Willy Nilly...you could make a good cartoon out of your avatar...

The Willy that was thick but short on truth.

 

Seriously hilarious.

Tue, 08/18/2015 - 18:32 | 6440339 kchrisc
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"I am 100% serious about this and 100% ready to die to protect my nation and my people from invaders.  It would be an honor."

With respect, but the invaders, and occupiers, exploiters, and oppressors of the American country, are Zion, their banksters, and their DC US governors.

Your scheme will have you aiding and abetting tyranny, and their fifth-column masters, Zion, against you, the American country, and fellow American people--you will become a tool of tyranny and Zion.

Concentrate on taking back and Restoring the American country and republic, then on what to do with the 17 million "immigrants."

Zion is a scheme, not an ethnicity.

 

It is about priorities: Who is the most "clear and present danger?" Juan washing dishes at the local restaurant, or tyranny's gun and badge thugs prowling for an opportunity to rob, torture, maim, enslave, and/or kill you?

Tue, 08/18/2015 - 15:42 | 6440360 headhunt
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TW - we appreciate it but don't die, we need every vote we can muster.

Tue, 08/18/2015 - 15:27 | 6440304 kchrisc
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"Immigration" is NOT an issue. It is a deliberate scheme of power, Zion, and tyranny to divide the people--physically, emotionally, and intellectually.

Power, tyranny, and Zion's schemes are motivated by only three things: Money, power, and division. Division allows them to continue to operate their money and power schemes with less interference from their victims--the people. Division causes the people's power and resources to become divided, and used against each other instead of against their real plundering and murdering enemies--tyranny.

"Immigration" allows power to exploit a group, or groups, as de facto slaves, while using them as a foil against the original population. Everyone becomes divided and focused in the wrong direction, and tyranny and Zion are right their continuing to pick everyone's pockets, and exploiting their flesh and blood in wars of plunder overseas.

At the below link one can read of Zion's very first shipment of "immigrants" into their UK colony, and the backlash that it later caused--a backlash, of course, then exploited by Zion.
http://www.theoccidentalobserver.net/2015/07/jews-the-ss-empire-windrush...

The experience within the American country is highly evident of the deliberateness of their scheme. While supposedly fighting the terrorist boogeyman, they have all the while maintained a de facto open border. In other words, their scheme of slave labor supply, and division inducing "immigrants," is more important to them than maintaining their terrorist and Muslim boogeyman scheme.

"Immigration" into our lands and society's was born as a scheme of profit within schemes of corruption, and has now become a scheme of division and diversion away from our real enemies--tyranny and Zion.

The solution: Don't be taken in by it. You don't have to like or embrace the "immigrants," just don't waste time, power and resources on them. Focus your time, power, resources, and wrath upon those that import and exploit the "immigrants," power, tyranny, and Zion.

Zion is a scheme, not an ethnicity..

Tue, 08/18/2015 - 15:39 | 6440349 headhunt
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Apparently if you do not embrace and adopt the culture of millions of illegals who have invaded your country you are considered unreasonable, xenophobic and even a racist.

The left expects Americans to accept the fact that illegals are stealing jobs and the wealth of those working to pay for 50+ million illegals in America as a penalty for being an American.

How unreasonable we are.

Tue, 08/18/2015 - 15:41 | 6440357 slammin_dude
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As planned by the Zio "masters"....Diversity is just zionist code for "white genocide"

There are much cheaper methods than deportation.....just sayin....but europeans are so beat down and domesticated now its basically over

Tue, 08/18/2015 - 15:43 | 6440366 Ms No
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Who would have ever believed that there would come a day where if you supported a regulated border surrounding your nation you would be considered a crazy racist.  Without a border you don't have a country, we are being destabilized for a reason why is this so hard to understand?  Forget discussing possible deportations, when do we get to have a border again? 

Tue, 08/18/2015 - 17:29 | 6440824 libertysghost
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"I will not be happy until I require your permission to leave my home!" o.0

Tue, 08/18/2015 - 16:31 | 6440427 honestann
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Immigration is not an honest issue.  Human animals have just as much "right" to travel the planet as birds and other critters that fly and wander anywhere they wish.

When these animals are human, we call them "tourists".

The issue is... the predators-that-be in government giving them freebees that are ultimately paid for by people who work for a living, struggle to make ends meet, then pay endless taxes, some of which is then distributed to freebee claimers.

Of course this is also a problem with many freebee claimers who are not immigrants (legal or otherwise).  Those who work their butts off, pay absurd levels of taxation, can no longer get interest on their savings, have their savings inflated away by central bankster printing... are continually screwed by this "vote buying".

Ultimately, that's what this phenomenon is... vote buying.  Sneak in and vote for democratic candidates who will then do everything possible to let you cheat the system.

And so, the entire issue (like most issues) is not fundamentally what the media portrays.  Far fewer folks have a problem with people who also work and also pay taxes, because they know those folks are ultimately not stealing from them, but rather are being stolen from, just like them.

Everyone except native americans are immigrants directly or indirectly.  Frankly, if you extend timeframe far enough, technically they are too.

Immigration isn't an honest issue.  But endless theft sure is.

Tue, 08/18/2015 - 16:38 | 6440632 mkhs
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Small point, but even the "native Americans" are supposed to have migrated here.

 

Edit. You covered that.  My apology.

Tue, 08/18/2015 - 17:00 | 6440723 Pure Evil
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So why is it that alien plants and animals not native to the US ecosystem are called invasive species?

But, when when a two legged animal crosses a border uninvited they're labeled oppressed minorities.

Tue, 08/18/2015 - 17:09 | 6440743 Deathstar
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duplicate

Tue, 08/18/2015 - 17:11 | 6440745 Deathstar
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Other animals fend for them selves and provide for their own. Human illegal spic animals steal from our established system and give nothing in return.
Unless you count sex crimes on children, murder, spreading diseases never seen in this country before, violent gangs, total disregard for our system, etc. ad nauseum.. if you count those as productive contributions...

...and don't say cheap labor you fuckin commie, because there are teens out there that will do the work the illegals spics do. I know, I used to work for 3.25 an hour when I was a teen.

Go take your strawmen elsewhere you fuckin commie!

Tue, 08/18/2015 - 19:38 | 6441235 honestann
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The appropriate way to deal with thieves and rapists is to shoot them dead.  Isn't that an even more effective way to deal with human predators than making them leave... and then just finding them back again a week later?

By the way, whether a thief or rapist is legal or illegal, the way to deal with them is exactly the same.

How much humans charge for their work is none of my business or yours, whether they are so-called "legal" or "illegal".

PS:  I'm anarchist, which means "no rulers" = "no government".  Somehow, I don't think you can twist that into being a "commie".  It is precisely the "commies" AKA "democrats" who invite them in, and steal money from you to give them freebees in exchange for votes.  That is precisely the opposite of what I proposed, troll.

Tue, 08/18/2015 - 17:24 | 6440799 quadratic_equation
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Are you giving justification for yourself being an illegal alien in my country?  The crap about "humans, animals have much right to travel in the planet" is just that crap.  You don't have the right come uninvited to my piece of land or my property which is my country as much as don't have the right to come to your part of the world.

Tue, 08/18/2015 - 19:14 | 6441211 honestann
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Oh, so you own the entire fictitious nation now, eh?  You are precisely like the predators-that-be, who claim exactly the same insane thing.

Of course I won't come onto your private property without permission.  But to claim the entire "nation" is yours is absurd.

And hey, aren't you trespassing on a native american continent?

By your logic, yes you are.

PS:  If you live in the USSA, I escaped the evil empire over 3 years ago, and now live in the extreme boonies 125km from the nearest human being somewhere undisclosed in the southern hemisphere.

I will never set foot in the evil empire again.  So no need to worry that I will leave a footprint on your nicely manicured lawn.

Tue, 08/18/2015 - 17:28 | 6440820 libertysghost
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Too many posters here aren't anymore interested in honesty than the "sheep" they mock here on a daily basis.  What a horrid thread I see here.  Stupidity galore.  Thank you ann for sticking up for the truth...and staying out of the slobbering mess of xenophobes so easily misdirected.  

They don't want to be free.  They only want someone to tell them they are free.  

Tue, 08/18/2015 - 15:57 | 6440428 falak pema
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The word "Petainist" now has a decided American connotation....how the wheel comes a full circle.

The US went to Nam to continue the same dirty neo-colonial games as the colonial French.

Now they wear the garb of Petainism... We are Htiler's new sons! Wowieeeee !

Tue, 08/18/2015 - 16:03 | 6440468 headhunt
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Not even close, maybe 0bama and his ilk.

Besides the French started the Vietnam war which was handed down to the English who handed it down to America.

Tue, 08/18/2015 - 16:10 | 6440497 falak pema
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SO Johnson got "handed down" the Gulf of Tonkin false flag?

Maybe he got "handed down" the Brains blown out of JFK?

I wonder who handed down that awesome piece of meat that has left a mystery bigger than the Loch Ness ?

You guys even got handed down Geronimo's skull!

And Custer got handed down little big horn.

When do the Americans man up and say we did that without it being "handed down"?

Tue, 08/18/2015 - 16:30 | 6440594 headhunt
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How very verbose of you.

The world has sucked at the teat of the US military for 200 years all the while screaming that America is cruel - except when they need it. We have done a lot of shit much of it to protect little cunts like you.

Tue, 08/18/2015 - 17:51 | 6440903 falak pema
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hahaha, well what have you learned at the ZH University ?

Have you no memory of what this site has posted about "US military sucking the teat for 200 years...?

You have to be a neo-con lost in translation. Try recycling yourself to grade 1.

Tue, 08/18/2015 - 18:16 | 6441000 Bazza McKenzie
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You are clearly speaking for yourself.

Tue, 08/18/2015 - 16:24 | 6440462 rwe2late
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 No,

the "world" is not "invading the West".

The West is self-destructively creating a predictable massive refugee problem

with its

wars of terror and drugs, for oil and profits.

http://www.counterpunch.org/2015/08/18/war-begets-war-refugees-the-moral...

 

Tue, 08/18/2015 - 16:55 | 6440703 valiums
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It pains me to think of all the people who absolutely refuse to understand this.

Tue, 08/18/2015 - 16:04 | 6440474 Oldrepublic
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What a Black woman told to a city council meeting in LA

 

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/08/18/must-see-black-woman-...

Tue, 08/18/2015 - 16:10 | 6440503 Laddie
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ALL LEGAL!!! Rush Limbaugh loves legal immigration he repeated it again today.

QUALCOMM lays off locals after applying for 'thousands' of foreign workers

Immigrant Population Hits Record 42.1 Million

The number of immigrants in the United States is now enormous, but it must be recognized that most immigrants, including those from Latin America, are in the country legally. Absent a change in legal immigration policy, the immigrant population will continue to increase.

IMMIGRANT FLOOD TURNING VIRGINIA BLUE 1/5th Nation of El Salvador Living Inside USAMS-13 Gang in Land of Colonial WilliamsburgMore green cards issued in year than entire population of original 13 colonies

Austrian intelligence says US organizations are funding immigration into Europe August 16, 2015

Traffickers demand exorbitant sums to bring refugees to Europe illegally. The conditions are often very poor, but still a transport does currently cost 7000-14000 Euro…” the Austrian Defense Office employee told Info-Direkt.at.

“There are insights that organizations from the US have created a co-financing model and contribute substantial amounts to trafficker’s costs.”

“Not every refugee from North Africa has 11,000 euros in cash. Nobody asks where the money comes from.”

The employee said that there was a “strict news blackout” on how the African and Middle Eastern immigrants were able to pay the traffickers fees.

Ted Kennedy is not responsible for the Immigration Act of 1965

What the Mainstream Media HIDE from you: http://newnation.org/

We have to face realities, not Liberal pipe-dreams. We have to face the fact that the world is a bloody battleground, not a children's playground; and that our enemies are devils, not angels. A war is being waged, a war to the death, and it is being waged against us -- not against anybody else, but against us!
WHITE MAN, THINK AGAIN! by Anthony Jacob, Johannesburg 1965

Tue, 08/18/2015 - 16:14 | 6440524 dag
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The barbarians are over the walls.

Since they want to come to the "host" country,

The host country should recolonize the barbarian lands.

Unfortunately, the host countries have lost their colonizing spirit.

Tue, 08/18/2015 - 16:33 | 6440618 RobM1981
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The likely issue of the century is Water.  If Lockheed can make cheap fusion a reality, then desalination at a massive scale will avoid this.  It will also change the face of civilization, but it not... then Water is where the action will be.

 

Nuclear War has a decent shot at the title, too.  We have 85 years left in the century, and Iran is spinning their centrifuges like there is no tomorrow.  Pakistan and India remain the best of friends.  N. Korea goes from crazy to crazier (next month they are going to start executing dissenters with who knows what... catapults, maybe...).

So the loss of a major couple of urban centers will likely out-weight immigration as an issue.

Immigration is a huge deal, for sure, and might be the issue of this election (why should it be the economy?  Everything is awesome there, right?), but "Issue of the Century?"

 

No.

Tue, 08/18/2015 - 16:59 | 6440688 valiums
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"Keep, ancient lands," cries she

with silent lips. "your tired, your poor,

your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,

the wretched refuse of your teeming shore,

those homeless, tempest-tost!

Send your storied pomp to me,

I lift my lamp beside the golden door!"

 

lol

Tue, 08/18/2015 - 16:57 | 6440710 numapepi
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There is a method to the elite's madness.

http://incapp.org/blog/?p=2632

Tue, 08/18/2015 - 17:09 | 6440748 quadratic_equation
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"He wants to redefine the constitutional definition of U.S. citizenship as codified by the 14th Amendment."

Amendment XIV (1868), Section 1:  All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the state wherein they reside."

The underlined statement above must be satisfied to be considered a US citizen.  An illegal alien as well as any non US citizen giving birth in the US are not subject to the jurisdiction of the US; therefore, the child is not a US citizen.  You don't have to be a lawyer to understand the statement of the XIV amendment that both statement wherein "All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof." must be satified to be a US citizen.

The XIV amendment, section 1 was intended to give slaves citizenship, hence the date 1868 when it was enacted.  The slaves were under the jurisdiction or protection of the United States at the time even if they were not considered US citizens.  Illegal aliens on the other hand are not subjects (citizens) of the United States.

Tue, 08/18/2015 - 17:27 | 6440810 Vin
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Build a fucking wall, round up illegals into the FEMA camps, and make their lives a living hell.  Sound good?

Tue, 08/18/2015 - 17:38 | 6440859 Das Capitalist
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This is naked fearmonger. True libertarians would welcome the free flow of labor across borders. Invasion of the West? Give me a fucking break.

Tue, 08/18/2015 - 18:12 | 6440987 Bazza McKenzie
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So you think people are just "labor"?

As Milton Friedman said you can either have a welfare state or free immigration but not both (for long).

If there is a free flow of "labor" across borders there are in fact no borders.  Anyone who espouses your position espouses theft.  That used not to be a libertarian view.

Tue, 08/18/2015 - 17:38 | 6440860 dadcss
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Our so called leaders have no long term strategy to deal in a healthy way with illegal movement into this country. Those of us who want a long term plan are immediately labeled “haters” by the MSM.

These people are immigrating because they believe they will get a better life here vs there.

Short term that may be true, but we to have our brutal leaders in the US and these poor people will soon find that out. True our government currently does not take citizens out and straight up shoot them, we have the IRS. There is a good reason the immigrants pull out a wade of cash at the store but our IRS will catch up to them eventually.

My point is that these illegals are on a path to destruction here in the US just as much as the country they came from. As an added bonus, the legal citizens of the US are being bankrupted by the mess.

How can the informed citizen not help but take the attitude that it’s “shields up” every man for themselves?

Tue, 08/18/2015 - 19:39 | 6440910 TheObsoleteMan
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And who is behind all of this? It's no secret, they admit it openly{see video below}. All of this from the same people who have the world's most stringent immigration policies for themselves. I like how the progressive soviet mentioned at the top of the article termed illegals as "dreamers". That is a very accurate word for them both. The illegals dream of gaining ever increasing access to your purse and wallet, while their enablers dream of a Utopian world that never has, and never will exist.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rA7Ymki71fM

Tue, 08/18/2015 - 18:05 | 6440965 Inanna
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Please. Let's start by solving the reason WHY they are coming to America.  US Policy has made a bloodbath out of Latin America with its "Drug War." Wikileaks revealed how the US supports Honduran drug lords, forcing people and children to flee. NAFTA destroyed Mexican corn farmers' livlihoods. Globalization makes corporations easily multinational, why not people? What sad humans who cannot look at their own misdeeds yet blame the desperate poor who are trapped in the economic nightmare? I have mercy for them all. Jesus would agree. 

Tue, 08/18/2015 - 18:11 | 6440983 gatrock301985
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Heres a carton about how these things boil down to class issues. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YrbUKAuuRKY

Tue, 08/18/2015 - 19:56 | 6441413 Faeriedust
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Morality be damned.  This is just like 400 A.D.  The Ostrogoths were refugees, too.  Until the Romans said "enough is enough".  And then they became invaders.  And then Odoacer was sending Zeno the crown of Augustullus Romulus, and most of the former Roman Empire was speaking German.

Spanish is an easy enough language, but I'll never be as fluent in it as I am in my own.  No thank-you.  I think Trump is a jerk, but I'm with him on this one.  Either the West draws a line and defends it, or no more West.  As for the humanitarian crisis, we should have thought of that before sending in vaccines and obstetric care to societies where the birthrate was over 6 children per woman.  Now there IS no choice, other than who on this overpopulated planet dies.  I vote for Not Me and Not Mine, and I've got 20 bullets for my rifle.

(And I haven't missed anything as large as a human chest at 50 yards in forty years).

 

 

Tue, 08/18/2015 - 20:01 | 6441444 PN7
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Does Europe have the toughness to seal its borders and send back the intruders? Or is Europe so morally paralyzed it has become what Jean Raspail mocked in “The Camp of the Saints”?

For the past 10 years I have been urging people to read "The Camp of the Saints."  Please read this fantastic book.  It perfectly sums up our situation.  I'm glad Pat Buchanan cited Raspail's book because nobody listens to a guy like me.  Besides being a serious examination of illegal immigration, "The Camp of the Saints" is uproariously funny at times.



Tue, 08/18/2015 - 21:23 | 6441793 RMolineaux
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Buchanan is a recidivist.  He is slipping back into the vocabulary and attitudes that characterized his writings many years ago.  He forgets or ignores several pertinent facts on the history and current status of immigration into the US.

First of all, it is an error to claim that everyone wants things to stay the way they are.  Some do.  In the mid 1800's they were known as no-nothings or mugwumps.  They looked askance at the influx of Irish and Germans, fleeing conditions in their home countries.  These migrants made a greater impact on the ethnicity of America than the current flow of Hispanics.  And who can deny that native-born Americans have changed in their culture and values from the placid years of the 50's to the tumultus years of the 70's and beyond?  Change is the law of life.  Those who cannot adapt to change stagnate and die out.

Ideally, for the US, immigrant pressure should be atenuated by improvement in the conditions in the sending countries.  In the case of Central America, the opposite has occurred.  Honduras, for example, used to be viewed as a safe and progressing country in the region, but the drug trade has made it one of the most dangerous. 

In addition, the attraction of cheap labor, whether cutting cane in Florida picking strawberries in New York or building houses anywhere, has been the prime motivation for employing illegals - sometimes by the same hypocrites who condemn their presence.

Tue, 08/18/2015 - 21:28 | 6441817 Prober
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Immigration = applying to the government for LEGAL entry

invasion = entering secretly, EVADING border security, in VIOLATION of law

Tue, 08/18/2015 - 21:45 | 6441899 VW Nerd
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I asked an open border advocate if I could take the front and back door off their house so anyone could come and go as they pleased.  I told the advocate they are asking this country to do the same thing.  The person disagreed

Tue, 08/18/2015 - 23:12 | 6442269 MEFOBILLS
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Labor, Capital, Land.  All wealth consists of these three elements.

One human labor unit is roughly fixed based on a standard lifetime and amount of energy output.

Capital is buildings, machines, and money.

Buildings can wear down, but also be used to produce goods.  Machines are allowed to depreciate on taxes, and also produce goods.  Goods fetch prices in the market.

Money is numbers and can be expanded to infinity, however money as capital tends to chase after low cost labor.  Keeping labor value cost low, allows capital to extract rents.  Witness capital flight today as it looks for low wage countries to exploit.

Land is a free gift of God, and includes air, water, electromagnetic spectrum, etc., all of those things not created by man.

The point of immigration is to take wage arbitrage on low cost labor.  The point of off shoring industry is to take wage arbitrage on labor.  Immigrate to drive wages down, and export industry to take wage arbitrage.  This kills off middle classes in advanced countries.

Capitalism is defective in that Capital claims ascendency for its right to exist.  This ascendency allows Capital flight, immigration, job exports – and if it is not satisfied, then war.

Capital also wants to enclose lands, to thus drive up prices and take monopoly rents. Owners of capital want to change the law, to then favor their industry, to then take monopoly rents.

The white man, or white western culture, tried to make capitalism work by returning some of oligarchies gains through various mechanisms. Mostly the west did this with mixed economies, NOT unbridled capitalism.

  Communism is really a super Oligarchy, a pyramid of power where everything concentrates into a point.  It takes a racially homogenous population to redistribute rental thefts (gains) back to the commons.  Humans do not have altruism for other races.  Communism will redistribute but also not produce. 

That said, if there is an altruistic race, it is the White race.  It alone has shown the greatest willingness to lift up other peoples.   

If anybody can name examples of races other than whites going around the world to lift others out of poverty, to spread knowledge and civilization, I would like to hear of it.  There are few if any examples. 

Capitalism needs repair if humanity is to survive. 

The money system should return to the commons what came from the commons.  Georgist fiscal policy would go a long way toward that end.

Money should no longer be private credit.  Private bank credit is a disappearing money type that has a gap at its inception.   More must be paid back than what was created, thus putting man on a treadmill.  Worse, credit comes into existence to fund finance, and push land prices.  This then makes it difficult for labor to extract a living.  Mexico is a prime example of an Oligarchy, where only a few own everything.  Oligarchs should be taxed of their illicit gains.  A repaired money system would not create rents as part of its design (the western money system predicates bad outputs by putting those who create capital in the driver’s seat).

A sovereign money system would tax away rents and then pump back into the base population.  Site value taxation of land would also return to the commons what was created by the commons.  Sovereign money is floating money, NOT private credit.  It is a permanent utility that people can use and it is part of the commons.

Capitalism takes its rent gains, and it also forces labor to produce goods to then make prices.  Those prices grab money from money supply.  This mechanism easily disenfranchises labor in third world countries, where all they have is mineral resources.  The people themselves may not be smart enough to fashion high tech goods, but they are still owners of their natural resources.  Capitalism should not steal their resources, nor force them to emigrate to get fair value for their labor.

Finance Capitalism and its dysfunction is the real reason for unrestricted immigration.    And yes, Jews have many reasons for what they do, and they ARE super capitalists and communists.  Communism is super capitalism, where Oligarchy forms into a point.

A proper sovereign money system, with the right mix of money types, and with proper fiscal policy will ALWAYS find as enemies Jewish and Oligarchical interests.  The rent takers of the world are not interested in fair dealing, they are interested in their free lunch and riding humanity like the parasites they are.

The money system is the locus of evil and man is forced into a soft voluntary slavery.  One must hypothecate themselves in order to create credit as money.  When robots are doing all of the work, how is labor going to make prices to get money?  The goods will be produced by earth plus intelligent machine.  OWNERS of capital and machines will then enclose earth and see laboring humanity as vermin.   This seeing others as vermin is codified in Talmud, so having Jewish Oligarchs run the world through pyramid control is especially dangerous as we move into our robotic future:  Dangerous and perhaps fatal.

The answer is sovereign money as monetarist policy, Georgist fiscal policy, and international trade via Bancors.   A nation’s money system can then act as a pump even with robots making goods, and capital will no longer claim ascendency.   Compensated pricing as per Major Douglas might be a method also to redistribute earths bounty, and Douglas is definitely not Bolshevik thinking, but instead Christian.

Douglas, Henry George, Sovereign Money – these things are not discussed in presstitute media as these mechanisms will kill off our rent seeking parasites.  The media is populated and funded by the parasite, so the media is yet another head of the hydra.

Fixing Capitalism requires one to take a hard look also at Jewish supremacism, and its outsized rent taking via western private credit money system.  Pride defective humans are in every culture, but a religion that indurates to practice rent seeking, and is complicit in immigration acts designed to undermine advanced western cultures, needs to come under condemnation, and be seen for what it is.

A nation has borders, language and culture.  It also has its own damn sovereign money.

 

www.sovereignmoney.eu

Wed, 08/19/2015 - 02:03 | 6442590 TheRicker
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Ask the Romans if they should have spent a little less time at the Coliseum (that was their ESPN) and a little more time watching the barbarians at the gates. At least they had walls and gates. Doesn't mean much though when you are fat lazy stupid and only want to be entertained. Sound familiar?

Wed, 08/19/2015 - 08:47 | 6443147 teutonicate
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Great post ZH, because immigration truly is the issue of the century.

How it is resolved will literally determine whether or not peoples of white European descent will be allowed to protect their genetics, cultures, nations and sovereignty - and defend themselves from a world-wide genocide orchestrated by the cabal.

 

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