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Europe's Refugee Crisis "Out Of Control", Hungary PM Rages "This Is A German Problem, Not An EU Problem"
The current refugee crisis is not an EU problem, but rather "a German problem," according to Hungary's Prime Minister Viktor Orban as his nation's borders are swamped with foreigners seeking to travel on to Germany. "People in Europe are full of fear because they see that the European leaders are not able to control the situation," he exclaimed after a meeting with EU President Schultz. He is right, of course, as we detailed here and here, but the sheer scale of the tragedy is worst than many could imagine. Orban defended his decision to erect a fence along its southern border with Serbia, saying: "we don’t do this for fun, but because it is necessary," adding rather pointedly that his country was being "overrun" with refugees, most of whom, according to the prime minister, were not Christians.
The disturbing image of a drowned Syrian boy has crystallized the crisis across Europe for most of the rest of the world...
And this morning's actions...
As refugees flood into Europe from across The Middle East and Africa... (At least 450,000 of Syria’s pre-2011 Christian population of 1.17 million are either internally displaced or living as refugees abroad.)
As AFP explains, it shows no signs of abating...
Europe is facing the most serious refugee crisis since the end of the second world war.
In response, EU leaders are acting in very different ways. Angela Merkel, the German chancellor, has taken the humanitarian high ground, declaring that her country will receive up to 800,000 asylum applicants this year and confronting the anti-immigrant voices in her country. By contrast, David Cameron seems to be taking a mean approach, strictly limiting the number of refugees Britain will receive.
And Hungary's Prime Minister is now daring to speak out - demanding action from his 'colleagues' in The Union...
"We Hungarians are full of fear, people in Europe are full of fear because they see that the European leaders, among them prime ministers, are not able to control the situation," Orban said on Thursday, after a meeting with European Parliament President Martin Schulz in Brussels.
The prime minister added: "I came here to inform the president that Hungary is doing everything possible to maintain order. We are creating now in the Hungarian parliament a new package of regulations, we set up a physical barrier and all these together will provide a new situation in Hungary and in Europe from September 15. Now we have one week of preparation time."
On Thursday, Hungarian police allowed hundreds of migrants inside Budapest's main railway station, but then the authorities canceled all trains to Western Europe, causing chaos.
Hundreds of people, many of them fleeing conflicts zones in the Middle East with their children, took a waiting train by storm, trying to push kids through open windows, hoping they would be allowed to continue their journey west to Austria, Germany and further afield. But signs in Hungarian said there were no west-bound trains, Reuters reported. It's unclear why the police had suddenly withdrawn, having stopped more than 2,000 migrants from entering for two days.
Hungary is currently building a 3.5 meter-high fence on its southern border with Serbia designed to deter migrants. So far this year, 140,000 have been caught entering the country.
Following talks with the president of the European Parliament Martin Schulz, Orban noted the current refugee crisis was not an EU problem, but rather "a German problem," as he put it.
According to Orban, none of the migrants want to "stay in Hungary."
"All of them want to go to Germany," the Hungarian prime minister said.
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The refugee issue can and will not be solved by the EU, or inside the EU apparatus, at least not in the way it should. Nor will the debt issue for which Greece was merely an ‘early contestant’. The EU structure does not allow for it. Nor does it allow for meaningful change to that structure. It would be good if people start to realize that, before the unholy Union brings more disgrace and misery and death upon its own citizens and on others.
However this is resolved and wherever the refugees end up living, we, all of us, have the obligation to treat them with decency and human kindness in the meantime. We are not.
Russia appears to get it...
Refugee crisis in Europe reaches “catastrophic” level as result of “irresponsible” approach to provoking regime change, Russian Foreign Ministry spokeswoman Maria Zakharova tells reporters in Moscow.
Which means this is the tip of iceberg compared to what is coming...
The media focus on a truck in Austria where 70 human beings died, and on a handful of children somewhere who were more dead than alive when discovered. These reports take away from the larger issue, that there are dozens such cases which remain unreported, where there are no camera’s present and no human interest angle to be promoted that a news outlet thinks it can score with.
Brussels and Berlin must throw their energy and their efforts at ameliorating the circumstances in the countries the refugees are fleeing. They need to acknowledge the role they have played in the destruction of these countries. But the chances of any such thing happening are slim to none. Therefore countries like Greece and Italy must draw their conclusions and get out, or they too will be sucked down into the anti-humanitarian vortex that the EU has become.
Europe needs to look at the future of this crisis in very different ways than it is doing now. Or it will face far bigger problems than it does now.
Italy’s Corriere della Sera lifted part of the veil when it said last week (Google translation):
The desperation of millions of human beings, manipulated by traffickers and by terrorist groups is also an instrument of disintegration of the countries of origin and of destabilization of the host countries.
It is estimated that sub-Saharan Africa will have 900 million more inhabitants in the next twenty years. Of these, at least 200 million are young people looking for work. The chaos of their countries of origin will push them further north.
That is the future. It will no more go away by itself, and by ignoring it, than the present crisis, which, devastating as it may be, pales in comparison. Europe risks being overrun in the next two decades. And as things stand, it has no plans whatsoever to deal with this, other than the military, and police dogs, barbed wire, tear gas, fences and stun grenades.
This lack of realism on both the political and the humane level will backfire on Europe and turn it into a very unpleasant place to be, both for Europeans and for refugees. Most likely it will turn the entire continent into a warzone.
The only solution available is to rebuild the places in Syria and Libya et al that the refugees originate from, and allow them to live decent lives in their homelands. If Brussels, and Washington, fail to realize this, things will get real ugly. We haven’t seen anything yet.
So far the EU changes have been a disaster...
And all this to get a gas pipleine across Syria!!!
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So you sons of bitches want to kill all the Muslims and let them drown When it was YOUR govt that made them refugees.
Any wonder why the world hates you sons of bitches??
Being hysterical is no way to go through life.
Or convince anyone.
<--The West bears NO responsibility for the situation.
<--The West bears SOME responsibility for the situation.
Go back on your medication.
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Someone tell the orange queen it can pound sand.
So you sons of bitches want to kill all the Muslims and let them drown When it was YOUR govt that made them refugees.
Any wonder why the world hates you sons of bitches??
So you sons of bitches want to kill all the Muslims and let them drown When it was YOUR govt that made them refugees.
Any wonder why the world hates you sons of bitches??
I don't know. I kind of liked it the first half dozen or so times arouds but now it wearing thin.
let every government employee or cilvilian involved take them into their own homes and cover their expenses...punishment should fit the crime
Seriously, you only need to hit the 'save' button once.
Blowback!
Its the USA/NATO problem because they created the wars of aggression against countries that were never a threat.
The goddam Useless Snakes bastards said they woould take in a measly 7000 refugees from the wars THEY started.
Fuck the USA/NATO/Israel
Make no mistake, the ZioNazis of Israel are behind it all.
What? You mean muslims weren't killing one another and anyone else they could lay their hands on before the US appeared on the scene?
And why aren't all these muslims fleeing to their fellow countries of Turkey, Egypt, Saudi Arabia, all of which are closer?
finally, someone nailed it....this is all about colonizing and bankrupting the west (cloward-piven style)
This is all about the global displacement/destruction of Whites. 8% of the world's population, and dropping fast. Better wake up quickly, defend your borders, and start making babies. It's not too late.
"Ms Nulandberger could not be reached for comment."
Australia - last bastion of the whites. White only immigration policy up until the 70's, and still north of 75% of the total population to this day. Borders closed to refugees and immigration is still 50%+ europeans. Better get in quick...
(Side note for our gun loving Americans; bolt action rifles and handguns for members of gun clubs, if you buy a few acres just outside of town and run a basket of veggies to the farmers market every other weekend you can claim to be a 'primary producer' and load up on semi auto rifles to your hearts' content)
Send them to the architect of all these conf l cuts...The USA is a big enough place for all these muzzies.
Ppl in the UK better vote to leave the EU or else you are going to have to get used to Sharia law.
Hey Americunt retard, those people aren't all Muslims, you fucking son of a bitch.
Grow a brain you fucking MORON
STFU already asshole
alfred (dutchboy2015) trolls more than fonestar used to....that takes some work
Sink the boats as soon as they enter the territial waters. Problem solved.
Come over here and say that you Americunt son of a crackwhore. I dare you
my my my. You're sure feisty behind that keyboard Dutchboy....
Cocksucking Nazis like you make me sick.
YOu know nothing about the situation and think everyone in Africa is a Muslim.
I hope you and your crack whore kids and wife die of AIDS
Awwwww, did I hurt you in the "feels"?
No one who knows any geography thinks everyone in Africa is a Muslim. N. Africa...pretty much. Central Africa, 50/50. Southern Africa, not so much.
However, outside of Hutus killing Tutsi's about 95% of the problems and refugees are caused by Muslims. I am willing to bet the problem refugees will be more the Muslims. I am willing to bet the Christians will blend in much better.
Same size as my little boy. Same haircut. Clothes could be his as well.
I can't imagine taking my little guy on a life or death journey in a leaky row boat.
It's a sad situation and I suspect th US has been an integral part in causing it.
Things change when you see it, up close & personal.
Especially your own.
An assault on the 5 senses...unmistakable smell of death.
Whole different perspective from the bigoted keyboard warriors that choose religion/color orwhateverthefuck instead of the top of the pyramid that finances the carnage. This is none other than their personal loss of humanity. Wear it well boys. Change is constant.
Think it can't happen here? Walk 2 moons in their shoes...
We soon shall see.
Didn't vote for, nor was I in favor of ANY of this US interventionism, yet i was still taxed/indebted to pay for it. And I still don't want them coming here. Demographics will determine your country's destiny, and I don't want mine to be Middle Eastern or African. I already see how it turns out. BTW, the photo is upsetting, but if one is swayed to make long-ranging immigration decisions that will eventually destroy both one's nation and culture based on that, one is essentially commiting racial and cultural suicide. Just takes a while.
You need not 'suspect'. The Libyan bombing campaign and shock and awe are documented history. Destroy people's homes, and they will ... ... ...
The logic is pitifully simple.
Yes, America/Obama/Bush helped take out Qadaffi and Hussein but this is their culture killing their people. Those were not Americans on video giving Qadaffi and summary execution.
If Obama were MIA tomorrow Americans would not suddenly start killing each other and creating giant refugee movements to Canada. The same is true of any advanced nation.
The reason there are refugees is that their own people are deadly and oppressive.
That fucking pictured is staged and fake. That kid isn't dead and he isn't drowned. It's so obvious to anyone that has ever seen a drowned body or even a dead body.
Fucking degenerate lying Leftist media will never stop with their propaganda and lies! But even if he did drown, who cares? Not my problem. He should have stayed in Turkey with all the Muslims since he's a Muslim instead of coming to Europe to ruin everything, rape, rob and steal and turn Europe Muslim.
Fucking Americunt bastards like you I wuld have no problem putting a round into your head
FYI asswipe those people are not all Muslims. Many are Chrisitans from Africa.
You sons of bitches are the most ignorant people on earth,
Please don't blame it on Americans. It's TFJ's and their insane plan to build greater israel. The ZIA created ISIS to cleanse Syria as they've laid waste already to Iraq and have plans on deck for Iran. Stop TFJ's NOW.
Well honey, as long as you spend 18 hours a day whining here you're your problem, not mine.
Christians, Muslims, atheists.....who cares. What's with the division stuff. The issue is do the citizens of European countries want these refugees in their country --- where most will be on assistance for ever....
All the rest of the identity shit is just that -- shit
Well, if the identity shit is just shit, why don't you move to an arab country? Or a black majority country? I mean it's all the same, right?
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Will they all be staying at your house then? I wouldn't want to live in Eastern Holland though - how's the weather over there by the way? Cloudy & cold as shit with a massive chance of rain?
I know that I shouldn't try to analyze you, but I really can't help myself. You are the tallest nail, so to speak, and just beg to be hammered down. Your inane screeching got me to wondering what age you are. I know that the Netherlands had a fairly significant number of schizophrenic children born during Nazi occupation. You wouldn't happen to be around 70 to 74 would you? As I understand it, some areas were denied food, and this led to some developmental complications for babies in utero, resulting in a fairly significant spike in schizophrenic diagnosis later. Do you fall in this category?
Or, perhaps your self-loathing and constant use of the word "Nazi" has a different cause? Was one of your parents (or grandparents if you are a generation younger), ein Deutsche soldaten?
What's so hard to believe. Desperate people trying to get out of Syria before ISIL saws their heads off?
And I think most of them are Syrian Christians, not Muslims.
So how come the US keeps taking in muslims and not Christians?
Beats the shit outa me.
Couple million christians and copts displaced or waiting to be killed where they stand.
We can't trouble Dear Leader to help anyone that doesn't want to kill us.
Accomodation could be made for the christians fleeing the ME. But not one mohammedian. None. Of course the distinction is made all the more difficult by the mohammedian practice of taquiya.
From what I read most are NOT Christians. The Christians and Yazidis are up closer to Turkey and stuck on the border. The Kurds are actually helping a lot of them and letting help come through.
Frankly, the Kurds are the only half decent players I can spot in the whole region. And, yes they are Muslim but they seem not to bite on the idea of killing everyone else.
Thicky Willy .. that because of your thick skull? This ain't staged and even if it were, it can as easily represent the hundred of thousands of children killed in this senseless NeoCon war because a few hundred sons of bitches don't have enough power to compensate for their tiny genitalia. This picture haunts me and will until the day I die. He so closely resembles my little grandson, right down to the shoes.
God damn the bankers, fats cats, neo-cons, politicians who facilitated this all in the name of getting some gas pipes through Syria.
One down vote, so I obviously offended someone with tiny genitalia.
>>>>>But even if he did drown, who cares?
Never a better expose' of a pencil deek intellectually bankrupt inbred maroon.
Not a pencil deek (at least there is some lead in that), a "fail-us." No amount of viagra can rouse a "fail-us."
Thanks for the laugh!
All this muzzy hatred/indifference to suffering makes these folks no different than those performing their ritual blood sacrifice.
This stupidity is rampant. These people didn't blow up their countries. We did. Funny here, both Sunni & Shia worship together. No blood thirsty monsters as portrayed by the keyboard impaired. The difference between the two is one wants a direct descendent of Mohammed to rule, the other wants a democratic vote.
Paraphrasing here on the Zombie apocolyse to come...Both Pods & Smiddy Wesson gave shining examples of humanity. Pods: All fine till your 16yr old relative shows up at the door with an infant. Smiddy: Bugout supplies/water for those caught in the crosshairs.
Self defense is one thing. Murder another. These morons have been conditioned/divided into thinking just like the overlords. Life is cheap. God help them should they face the same horrors.
This is post perfection right here.
I just got finished typing something that looked like this on the Arabs take over the 4 seasons thread, in defense of Jews.
Anytime you see a dramatic, heart-wrenching photograph get plastered all over the major media, you know it has been staged.
Here princess.
Here's you some more dramatic, heart-wrenching, staged exploitation.
You can bet your callused ass they made NO publication.
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-Lr79hleGiXE/U9oEdqbZH2I/AAAAAAAACW8/D9D4Uro96zg/s640/Palestinian+child+pleads+for+help.jpg
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-Fu348P6B71o/U9oF7vqTNgI/AAAAAAAACXQ/dhMT1tUSkjM/s640/Her+offense+was+being+born+Palestinian.jpg
Thick Willy said:
That kid isn't dead and he isn't drowned. It's so obvious to anyone that has ever seen a drowned body..
I agree. Having once seen a drowning victim, I know that it is a sight hard to forget. The skin of someone who has drowned turns an odd greenish tint, and looks nothing like the skin tone in the photo.
They are all set to "rich and vibrant" the fuck out of Europe...
The Hungarians should be stacking the migrants up in piles at their border fence.
They would need a proper border fence first... and then masses of them wouldn't "suddenly appear" at the main train station in Budapest. But pulling back the police was the correct action, it makes it easier to deal with them 1 train load at a time and thereby avoid a large scale publc display of the lawful use of State power.
No argument from me, and they are working on it. But a fence is no deterrent. Walking over piles of your fellow countrymen is.
One trainload of refugees was sent west out of Budapest... routed, naturally enough, to a refugee camp.
The "asylum seekers" refused to get off the train, since they want to go to Germany, not some camp in rural Hungary.
The above should tell everyone on this board that a high proportion of these people (and people, indeed, they are) are looking for a better life, which for the first few generations at least, will be at someone else's expense.
These people may be desperate for a better life, but most are economic migrants.
They aren't refugees, they are skirmishers
So you sons of bitches want to kill all the Muslims and let them drown When it was YOUR govt that made them refugees.
Any wonder why the world hates you sons of bitches??
These people need help.
YOu Americunt bastards are the ones inviting in the criminals from Mexicao and South America and bash families like this who are fleeing the wars YOU created
ISIS is CIA/Mossad trained and funded,
Go put on your big boy pants, open up your house, feed, clothe and provide for them then. Get after it social justice warrior....Let us know how your butthole holds up after the first few steamy Thursday evenings.
Hey punkass dipshit. We have 500 housed here already for the last 6 months. in a closed juvenile detantion center. They have been no problem. Very friendly and happy to be safe. They are mostly Syrians and Eritreans.
typical socialist. Have "daddy" take care of it for you, and not take care of it yourself.
"we"
Hungary got 1,310 new asylum seekers per 100,000 capita in the first 6 month of 2015 only, which equals a population ratio of 1.31%. The same ratio for the US would mean more than 4 million new asylum seekers in the same period.
Hungary's Prime Minister Viktor Orban is one of the good guys.
Merkel, the Jewish former member of the Communist party is one of the evil ones. Cameron of "Conservative" party is another evil one, Jewish also.
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And as far as what all these NON-EUROPEANS are doing in EUROPE, the speakers are J-Tribe:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P07PZgUOL-o
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k2Vq_e2Z1ug
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ROGnoNJc6Nw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QuYKtwnzG7M
This Swedish woman singer really puts it all in perspective, it is interspersed with news footage of riots in Sweden. This is culled from 2 live performances. Poor America, Poor Sweden...Poor White lands...
Ode To A Dying People
My Hungarian friends are starting to think Orban was clued in by Putin on a recent visit.
Something seems strange about all this.
Where are all the pictures lampendusa? Or Malta?
While I am sorry the kid is dead, I will not accept blame for his death.
I did not destabilize his region, nor did I vote for anyone who did make that choice, nor do I support what is being done in the name of my nation.
I did not arm ISIS, nor did I vote for anyone who did make that choice, nor do I support what is being done in the name of my nation.
I did not put that kid on a boat, nor did I sink the boat.
I have nothing whatsoever to do with his death. Who killed him? Those who made the choice to bomb the fuck out of brown people worldwide, those who got rich from bombing the fuck out of brown people worldwide, and those who are getting rich from cramming 50 illegal immigrants on a boat meant to hold two fisherman and a captain. Hold them responsible and make them fucking pay. Leave the rest of us well enough alone.
If you are American you are culpable by paying taxes. Ever hear of collective karma? You will pay, it doesn't matter if you think you aren't responsible.
OMG
And what happens if I don't pay my taxes, Alfred? I go to jail. My kids become homeless and die, or worse, they get gubmint assistance, which does not ease the burden on the rest of the few remaining hardworking people of my nation. There's only so many resources to go around, and the well does tend to run dry. Then what? Then you have dead children washing up on beaches everywhere. Yeah, that sounds like a grand plan, let's go with that. *snort*
My responsibility as a father is to my own kids, not all the kids of the world. The father of that dead child made a decision to put his kid on a boat. I did not. But somehow it is *my* fault that child is dead, merely because a certain flag waves over my head?
I don't believe in karma, else Bernanke would be getting raped up his ass by all the people whom he screwed. And the last time I checked, Bernanke's ass was tighter than a nun's cunt. I'm not worried about some mythical karmic boomerang coming to strike me with eternal damnation because someone who lives on the same soil as I is a greedy, morally bankrupt motherfucker. Peddle that shit on someone more gullible.
Enjoy being raped to death by "refugees". There's not much more that can be said. Europe is committing suicide.
Yeah, Alfred, that's all BS. If you are going to blame America and Europe then also give credit and explain why the West is the destination of these people? That's right, because they are the best places in the world to go.
What nationality are you? Let us discuss your collective karma...besides the fact their is no collectiv(ist) karma.
Who benefits from the oil? Why do we in the west look like the best place to go?
So all whites/Americans are guilty by proxy...
Does that mean all muzzies are guilty by proxy of the tens of thousands that are savagely raped and killed on a daily basis by extremists?
Who benefits from the oil?
sorry - who made the choice to bomb them? whether you voted for 'them' or not - who is behind the bombing
Halliburton. Duh.
did you pay your taxes since 2001?
Color Revolutions started in Egypt by Hillary, Obama and the neocons are responsible for all this chaos.
Burn them all to the ground.
yo, EURO brothers... have no shame.. this is WAR... contain the trash ans ship it back to the shitholes it came from.
Hey Ameritrash NAZI. we are NOT your brothers you Nazi son of a bitch
You Nazis created this mess with your illegal wars of aggression.
Don't get so perturbed by the hasbara trolls. Just keep adding the terms greater israel into the discussion. Eventually people will realize the real cause of the problem.
Some disgusting people here. I remember scum like that in 1953 after immigrating legally to the USA. My father built a home for us and the neighbours didn't like Dutch people and had their kids waterballoon all the dry wall.
Americans are the most hateful bastards in the world. NO heart and lots of those punks are here
These aren't really Americans. They are more than likely war-mongering hasbara trolls. Americans have big hearts as they always lead the world in charity donations, etc. It's just the huge disinformation scheme of TFJ's that have everybody afraid of this ZIA created ISIS threat and then the ZOG-media spins it in ways that serves the purpose of their insane global plans. Don't let them upset you. Just keep using their tools agains them. Spread the knowledge of the greater-israel plan everywhere you can. Peace out.
You MUST be the internet's finest troll. The way you repeat your background story, the personal anecdotes to explain your hatred for The Best West. It's art.
"My father built a home for us and the neighbours(sic) didn't like Dutch people and had their kids waterballoon(sic) all the dry wall."
Is a beautiful base-coat of history, impotent rage, broken English triflin'...
"Americans are the most hateful bastards in the world. NO heart and lots of those punks are here"
And layers of violent monochromatic projectile vomiting, like a beat poet getting hit by a train.
Bravo! Author!
>>immigrating legally
You've instantaneously destroyed any argument you had in favor of these psychopaths swarming the European and US borders! Thanks!
That must have been Detroit.
Sorry to tell you this, but Detroiters simply have NO manners. Your father should have settled in Atlanta or Charleston, where you would have qualified for "privilege" just for being (I assume since Dutch) White.
Somebody get Alfred a douche for the sand in his mangina STAT!
How about you fucking off, Ameritrash punk.
you know this your old pal DB2015?
Oh yeah....he's in rare, screeching SJW form today. If he keeps it up, he might have an anuerism.
you know this your old pal DB2015?
The Middle East mess was created by Jewish power people in Washington DC and London. Read "PROJECT FOR A NEW AMERICAN CENTURY" and the JINSA white paper. Iraq, Libya, Syria, all Jewish Lobby actions. I didn't know that Jewish Supremacists were NAZIS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Neo-Nazis ask questions like this:
What would life be like in an all-White America?
"And as things stand, it has no plans whatsoever to deal with this, other than the military, and police dogs, barbed wire, tear gas, fences and stun grenades."
Until the EU socialist do come around with a plan, I suggest more heavy handed use of the above.
I suggest nuking you Ameritrash warmongering bastards who created this mess. You blood thirsty warmongering bullies and cowardly bastards
This is an honest question. But, what happened to the Dutch people? They used to be badasses in the 1600's/1700's. I have no personal animosity towards the Dutch at all. In fact, I'm part Dutch myself. But I often wonder about the Netherlands and Scandinavia as well. When did they start self-loathing? The last Dutchmen that put up a good fight were the Dutch Marines in Rotterdam in WW2. After that.....nothing. Is Socialism/Multiculturalism neutering y'all over there?
We have 500 housed here already for the last 6 months. in a closed juvenile detantion center. They have been no problem. Very friendly and happy to be safe. They are mostly Syrians and Eritreans.
Don't worry, Jethro, Alfred is just paying back the Dutch karma from the 1600s/1700s. Think about all the brown people the Dutch killed, enslaved, and exploited back when they dominated the spice routes. ;)
World War II.
Two World Wars in succeeding generations 1) killed off a quarter of the young men in Europe, 2) probably preferentially killed the more spirited and courageous, as bombs and machine guns are indiscriminate killers that favor those who crouch and slither over those who stand tall, 3) left women in charge for two generations, and 4) convinced pretty much everybody on the continent that modern warfare is just a rotten idea.
Interestingly enough, it had no such effect on Russia, which suffered every bit as hideously. But for Russia it was a clear defensive war, whereas in most of Europe it was a war over which set of rich industrialists was going to own all the factories and mines, and which banks were going to collect debts for the next fifty years. Western European realized that they had been had by the end of it all, and became extremely wary of patriotic propaganda. Like the Greeks today, they figured out that it doesn't matter a whole hill of beans who's king of a dungheap they will never scale.
I don't buy the materialist part but I agree in principle with being suspicious of nationalistic propoganda. I suspect Europeans still have some fight in them but only under certain conditions.
anybody else getting tired of this little crybaby?
Think of him as comic relief, but not quite as funny.
anybody else getting tired of this little crybaby?
This is Fight Club, dude. Spine up and kick his ass if you're tired of him. I brought my popcorn.
I'm sure ISIS will be happy to receive all the Muslims. It's tragic to see all the problems that the fascists in charge have created. I am not a part of that and I feel no guilt.
Wow. Another jewish problem in Europe. History does repeat itself.
Warren Buffett & Bill Gates ripped the refugee's face off and pulled their eyeballs out.
Way to go Wall Street, Goldman Sachs, JPMorgan Chase, Bank of America, and the CIA.
The migration maps indicates much more routes than just a few Cheney induced hot spots. It would be nice to know estimates on how many have traveled each route.
We no doubt have that data...
Another problem with a trivially simple solution:
Gather up all the refugees, migrants, etc, push them thru infantry training programs, stuff them into uniforms, equip with rifles and ammo, and send them back where they came from to kill islamic cult worshipers. Far better so spend money on this program than subsidizing them as entitlement parasites.
Do as you say, give a few suitcase nukes and get them into israhell. Global. Problems. Cease.
....and drop them off at 30,000-ft. I'm cool with that.
Several years ago I posted a number of comments pointing out that a mass migration to Europe was brewing. I gave several reasons, and we all know about the wars, the drought that has killed off rural farming in the Middle East, and just plain over population.
But what brings then to Sweden, Denmark, Germany, The UK?? This is down to the world wide web. These people watch English Premier League football on TV, they watch UK television shows, they see media from Sweden showing the good life there and in Denmark. Germany is known from TV and internet. Frankly, these Africans, Middle Easterners and West Asians often know way more about western Europe than some Europeans. They know the welfare plans, the free health care, the liberal supporters who will back their demands. Simply put, It is too good NOT to take advantage of the EU benefits. And lastly, they have all figured this out at the same time! Meaning, they are racing eachother to get inside the West of Europe before 10 million try and go there. It now is a race to be the Lucky Ones who got inside! Expect the race to grow ugly with fighting and killing over who get over the fence.
EU liberals are out in force trying to keep borders open, and to encourage more trains and boats to carry migrants. It really is insane. The backlash is suppressed by media and police, but sooner or later citizens will fight to prevent 100 million arabs and africans from moving in to London, Stockholm, etc. Believe me, 100 million are coming! Soon the EU will have to decide. "Take over 100 million, or begin to close borders, with all the conflict that will cause."
Europe may be brought down not by Russia, but by this mass migration of people. All demand the European life, demand it! Look at them, they are not asking for help, they are demanding to be taken to London and given an apartment, money and free health care. Two Africans on a train were asked what they expected in the UK. They said they were anxious to attend a Chelsea football match in London soon! The good life is waitning for them, and they know it!
yup
numbers don't lie and places that are fucked up today were always fucked up and will always be fucked up because of the people who live there
Jack you are absolutely right!
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That's interesting, my sister went to Europe for the summer, and told me the same thing. They stayed in England for a month, and wanted to visit France - but the border patrol was crazy around the chunnel. Thying to stop "migrants" from North Africa.
It might have something to do with the generous benefit packages those nations give out, as well. You know, the dole.
I came here because I remember someone comparing this impending wave of invasion to World War Z quite a while ago. I felt then that it was a prediction, I see now that it's coming true, and will only get much, much worse.
Germany's biggest problem is that it is ...
TOO AWESOME!!!
Everyone wants to live here!
For all you fucking Ameritrash asswipes here that would like to kill all those people.
We have 500 housed here already for the last 6 months. in a closed juvenile detention center. They have been no problem. Very friendly and happy to be safe. They are mostly Syrians and Eritreans.
Americans are always bragging about how ''great''' they are and a melting pot but all I see here is pure hatred that makes Nazi Germany look like choir boys.
I guess its because all your mothers are crack whores and you never knew your fathers, that you are so hateful.
You say 500 have been there 6 months and they are FABULOUS. Just wait.
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500 is seldom a problem. It's their 500,000 cousins, uncles, brothers, and did I mention the wives and children back home they plan on sending for as soon as they have a job?
This isn't a small, circumscribed problem. It's a worldwide catastrophe that will only end after the Four Horsemen ride. Me, I'm mostly working on how to stay out from under their hooves.
What ages are they and what religion/s? Why would you not expect them to be happy? They achieved their destination and goal. We could say the same things about illegals in America. They are very happy to be here and safe from drug lords and the corrupt Mexican government.
The issue is what happens next and how many can be absorbed.
Would you like 20 million like the USA has rather than 500?
What's with the "Ameritrash" vitriol? My relatives liberated your country in 1945. Did your relatives call them Ameritrash, then? Did you prefer the Deutch-trash or Nazi-trash?
I'm sure he has as much gratitude for that gesture as those immigrants will have in a short amount of time when the benefits wane and the competition for them increases. With adequate numbers they will have the votes to push their agendas and the destruction of Europe will be a fait accompli without any military campaign.
I do not understand Germany. It puts a boot to the neck of Greece to exact a pound of flesh but invites eventual millions to drain its resources. Which will be more costly in the end?
Miffed
"I guess its because all your mothers are crack whores and you never knew your fathers, that you are so hateful."
Please stop insulting the urban African-American population. That is considered very racist in polite circles.
Don't worry, western countries have enough space, spare resources and generosity to welcome all migrants. The necessities of jobs, housing and medical care are details that can be worked out later. Right now this is an immediate crisis, that needs an immediate solution. Give these poor people refuge, and worry about the details later.
All expenses need to be taken out of the billions given to israhell.
Its refreshing to read a comment from a real human being instead of the animals here that love war and support wars of aggression that created these refugees and then even want to kill them when the flee.
These Ameritrash are true cowards. Just lower than whale shit
You mean the details of the Islamic Republic of (fill in name of western euro country - just a detail)? Sure, those can be worked out.
I guess you aren't aware that many of them are Christians. We have 500 here since 6 months from Syria and Eritrea.
YOu need to get informed and stop hating Muslims and Christians.
You need to start hating ZioNazis who are behind these wars in the region. ALL for Israhell.
alfred, you are just a bit charachter in a ISRAHELL ZIONAZI Bmovie. thats why you are so pissed.
breaking news.. like most b- actors... no one gives a fuck about you
Listen up, little boy, I have worked all over the M.E. and Africa. Never had problems with Muslims. they never tried to convert me but I have had problems with fucking Christers sticking their goddam Buybull in my face asking me if I am ''saved''.
Fuck you Nazi hypocrites.
Listen up, little boy, I have worked all over the M.E. and Africa. Never had problems with Muslims. they never tried to convert me but I have had problems with fucking Christers sticking their goddam Buybull in my face asking me if I am ''saved''.
Fuck you Nazi hypocrites.
That's the great thing about time as a variable. Over the course of the next 10-20 years, we'll get to see what happens to the great centers of Western Civilization as their population ratios change from Christian, to the current Post-Christian, to majority Muslim. Will the openess and freedoms associated with Western Europe change them, or will they change you? I guess for the Netherlands in particular, I'll be looking in about 10-20 years to see if you're still the destination for hash smokers and red light district fans as dependent variables in the experiment.
That's what they always say. What it means is, we'll take the details out of YOUR hides, not ours, so what's to worry?
Adding a million immigrants a year to a fading, worn-out continent that is barely starting to recover from the resource-stripping of the 19th century is NOT a SMALL detail. And once they're in, you will never, ever be free of them again.
Oh, and one more thing? "Charlie Hebdo".
It's crazy. It's almost as though, when you announce you are giving away a free hot dog and small pop to the first 800000 customers, you run out of hot dogs and pop pretty fast.
Its crazy when your country created the wars of aggression that make people flee and then want to kill them when they want freedom.
The jig is up with you Americans. I can tell by your comments you don't give a flying fuck about anyone but yourselves.
And who does? It's absolutely true. Most of us don't give a flying fuck about trying to establish a kleptocratic client state in the Ukraine. Most of us didn't give a flying fuck about Bashir Assad inheriting his father's title and kingdom. None of us gave a flying fuck about "regime change" in Libya or Iraq. These were the actions of a power clique that pretty much controls minds in Washington and money in New York. Most of us don't have that kind of power or money, and if we did, we'd have better things to spend it on.
You want to hang Dick Cheney from the yardarm? PUH-LEASE. Try to save his second-hand heart, would you? Somebody worthwhile might still be able to use it. But don't blame us for the actions of our oligarchs. The 1% are not US. We just owe them all the income we've ever had and can ever earn.
+1000
A noble, feasible idea at one time...
...not any more.
A profitable idea for the Northeastern manufacturing moguls trying to keep the price of factory labor down in the 19th century. NOT good for the local workers, who had to meet the willingness of starving European peasants to work themselves to death for pennies. Eventually, American workers organized politically and got immigration controls passed.
Besides, the vast majority of immigrants to the U.S. until the late 60's were European Christians, some Jews and Catholic Latinos but very few Muslims and black Africans. The current refugee crisis in E.U. is the beginning of the end of both the E.U. and Europe as we know her. What is interesting is that the Western elites and inteligentsia promote abortion, feminism and homosexuality and then complain that there is a negative population growth in the West. This in turn is used to justify 'import' of millions of non-assimilating peoples of alien cultures and religions 'because Europe has an aging population and needs young workers.' It certainly seems to me as some influential powers are hell bent to wipe out the European race and civilization from the face of Earth.
Yes but the legislative changes in the US in 1964 took place because the Jewish lobby and Democrats removed the preference for Europeans
I don't know, they could just do what they used to do with the Ukrainians in Kanada. Give them a shovel, axe, maybe some nails. Then drop them off in northern Saskatchewan. If you make it through the winter - great. If not, oh well.