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Russian Military Presence In Syria Risks "Confrontation" With US-Backed Forces, Kerry Warns Lavrov

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On Friday, Vladimir Putin conceded that the scope of Russian military involvement in Syria is “quite serious.”

In a replay of the Kremlin’s official line regarding Russian involvement in Ukraine, Putin did not admit that his soldiers were on the ground to play a direct combat role.

However, the Russian President’s comments did suggest that Moscow’s logistical and technical assistance goes far beyond the purely “political” cover the Kremlin has granted Assad via Moscow’s Security Council veto. It also suggests that Russia isn’t prepared to accept a Syrian state controlled by a puppet government likely to be sympathetic to Washington and Riyadh. 

Of course the official reason for Moscow’s presence in Syria is the same as the Washington’s: they’re both there, ostensibly, to fight ISIS. 

For those who still do not understand that ISIS has become, as we put it earlier, “a kind of catch-all, go-to excuse for legitimizing whatever one feels like doing,” the situation in Syria can be extraordinarily confusing. For instance, at least one mainstream media outlet was having quite a difficult time on Saturday trying to understand why the US seems so concerned about Russia’s presence in Syria when both sides are supposed to be after the same thing - that is, defeating terrorism. The reason is because both sides are not in fact after the same thing, and neither of which cares too much about what does or doesn’t happen to ISIS unless the group’s fate somehow matters in determining whether a post-civil war Syria is still governed by Assad. In short, ISIS has played its role. The Assad regime is destabilized and Damascus is up for grabs. From here on out, it’s all about whether a coalition comprised of the US, Turkey, Saudi Arabia, Jordan, and Qatar ends up in a direct military conflict with Russia and the Assad regime. That would be the geopolitical “main event.” 

Underscoring the above is the alarm with which Russia’s stepped up presence in Syria has been greeted by Washington. Far from being elated that, amid the worst relations between the US and Russia since the Cold War, the two powers are still on the same page when it comes to combating terrorism, Washington is instead worried that the Kremlin is willing to resort to overt military support to shore up Assad’s depleted forces. As a reminder, here’s what the US claims to know (via LA Times):

US intelligence has captured evidence of a significant escalation of Russia's military engagement in Syria's civil war, including satellite images of an apparent Russian base for staging troops and heavy equipment under construction near a port city that is a stronghold for Syrian President Bashar Assad, U.S. officials say.

 

The reconnaissance photos of possible military housing being built near the international airport in Latakia province provides strong evidence of deepening involvement by President Vladimir Putin's government in the four-year-old Syrian war, according to the officials, who requested anonymity because they were not authorized to discuss the matter publicly.

 

In addition, the Russians have asked at least one country bordering Syria for a window of time to fly a detachment of warplanes over its territory and into Syria, the officials said. The officials would not name the country, but Turkey lies between Russia and Syria.

 

Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov has been on a diplomatic offensive in recent weeks trying to marshal support for a plan to bring peace to Syria that would include a role for Assad. But those talks with Saudi and other Middle East leaders have failed to win over opponents.

 

The new military buildup could reflect a recognition by the Russians that with those talks going nowhere, Assad needs more help from them.

 

"It's pretty obvious that all the Russian logistics preparation is to do something significant in support of Assad," said Christopher Harmer, a military analyst at the Institute for the Study of War, a nonpartisan public policy group in Washington. "At this point, it's too big to be a misdirection."

“Too big to be a misdirection,” which presumably is why John Kerry jumped on the phone with Lavrov on Saturday. The State Department says "the secretary made clear that if such reports were accurate, these actions could further escalate the conflict, lead to greater loss of innocent life, increase refugee flows and risk confrontation with the anti-ISIL coalition operating in Syria.”


Note that if any of what the State Department says there is true, it’s entirely because John Kerry knows that Russian support will allow the Assad regime to continue to fight for control of the country. That is, if anyone actually believed Russia was there to fight ISIS, then one would think the effect would be to decrease refugee flows and lead to fewer civilian casualties as ISIS’ forces are swiftly defeated. After all, the Soviet experience in Afghanistan notwithstanding, one would certainly think that ISIS isn’t operationally capable of waging an extended ground war against the Russian army (as an aside, it would be ironic - given the Soviet-Afghan war - if the Russians end up mired in a protracted conflict with a CIA-backed group of jihadists). However, what would increase refugee flows, lead to greater civilian casualties, and “further escalate the conflict” is if Russia is simply in Syria to help Assad fight on to the bitter end. In other words, the State Department is tacitly admitting that this has very little (and more likely nothing) to do with ISIS.

Here’s The New York Times with more on what Washington claims to know about Russia’s involvement thus far:

Russia has sent a military advance team to Syria and is taking other steps the United States fears may signal that President Vladimir V. Putin is planning to vastly expand his military support for President Bashar al-Assad of Syria, administration officials said Friday.

 

The Russian moves, including the recent transport of prefabricated housing units for hundreds of people to a Syrian airfield and the delivery of a portable air traffic control station there, are another complicating factor in Secretary of State John Kerry’s repeated efforts to enlist Mr. Putin’s support for a diplomatic solution to the bloody conflict in Syria.

 

The Russians have also filed military overflight requests with neighboring countries through September.

 

American officials acknowledge that they are not certain of Russia’s intentions, but some say the temporary housing suggests that Russia could deploy as many as 1,000 advisers or other military personnel to the airfield near the Assad family’s ancestral home. The airfield serves Latakia, Syria’s principal port city.

 


 

American intelligence analysts are also looking at ship loadings in Russia to determine what might be bound for Syria, and one official speculated that the Russian deployment might eventually grow to 2,000 to 3,000 personnel.

 

“There are some worrisome movements — logistical, preparatory types of things.”

Yes, “preparatory types of things” - the million dollar geopolitical question is this: what exactly are they preparing for?

 

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Sun, 09/06/2015 - 17:10 | 6516246 gezley
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Your analysis as always is excellent and it deserves many more upvotes.

Sun, 09/06/2015 - 23:29 | 6517398 BarkingCat
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There is nothing wrong with atheists. I am one and just because I do not believe in some magical dude in the sky does not mean that I share the value system of the sick twisted dipshits that fully surfaced in the last couple of decades.
A true atheist is guided by logic. For example logic dictates that it is unnatural for one man to stick his penis in another man's anus... I am sure you can figure out why,

Sun, 09/06/2015 - 10:15 | 6515053 dsty
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The door has opened wide for Russia in the Middle East.

Very prophetic.

Game changer for the US

Confrontation eventualy with those who are driving the conflict.

It is not going to get better.

Sun, 09/06/2015 - 10:20 | 6515068 Monetas
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The Soviet Union was infallible .... then it failed .... kind of like Hemingway´s bankruptcy .... "you go broke slowly .... then suddenly" !

Sun, 09/06/2015 - 10:25 | 6515077 AlfredNeumann
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..

Sun, 09/06/2015 - 10:24 | 6515078 AlfredNeumann
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Soviet Union never claimed to be infalliblle.

But the Useless Snakes does.  

They think they have some divine mission to save the world by destroying it.

Sun, 09/06/2015 - 10:28 | 6515093 Freddie
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The Soviet Union was created by NYC, London and German banksters and communists who were not Christians.  Same people as Nudelman, Soros, and the rest who are creating chaos for profit in Ukraine, Syria, Egypt, Libya, USA, western europe and many other places.

Sun, 09/06/2015 - 10:24 | 6515072 A82EBA
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Lavrov should tell Kerry to tread lighly<4/p>

Sun, 09/06/2015 - 10:24 | 6515079 Freddie
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Has this been reported anywhere else about F-16 and two Apaches shot down by Syria? I know in Yemen, at least 2 Saudi Apaches have been shot down. The Yemeni's probably have older antiaircraft tech too.

Ziad (who is a Christian in Michigan) web site said the F-16 was trying to fight an SA-2 and SA-9 missile.  Those were fired to distract the F-16 while an S-300 took out the F-16.  I wonder if this is a tactic that Syria might use sending up an older model anti aircrft missile to distract followed by an S-300.  Anyone know if S-300's are really in Syria?

I like Ziad but he write with some hyperbole.

http://syrianperspective.com/2015/08/syria-ups-the-ante-and-shoots-down-...

Saudi Apache shot down

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=1a8_1440260067

Sun, 09/06/2015 - 12:17 | 6515456 king leon
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Yes Syria has the S300 and it doesn't need decoys to do it's job, Syria also has onix that can take out US flat tops. 

Sun, 09/06/2015 - 10:24 | 6515083 Monetas
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Russia´s mid-east policies are dubious .... nothing trumps having a Muslim .... in the White House ..... the CIA out smarted the Commies .... once again !   Dreams from my REAL father .... a film by Joel Gilbert

Sun, 09/06/2015 - 10:26 | 6515087 AlfredNeumann
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Stop posting Gibberish, you look like a fool.  because you ARE one.

Sun, 09/06/2015 - 11:07 | 6515222 xavi1951
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For a two weeker, you sure seem to think you are smarter than eveeryone else.  And for a Jew hater, maybe you should have chosen a different caraciture, especially if you read the history behind the face.

Sun, 09/06/2015 - 11:17 | 6515255 Pliskin
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I have a feeling our Alfred has been around alot longer than two weeks ;)

Pseudonym much?

Sun, 09/06/2015 - 10:31 | 6515089 per-dask
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Russia is never at peace. It's continually involved in conflicts with its neighbors and has a history of expansion throught force. When it's not in a war with someone else its people are usually fighting amongst themselves, or at least hating each other. This action in Syria is a major step towards starting WWIII.

Sun, 09/06/2015 - 10:40 | 6515127 AlfredNeumann
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What you describe is not Russia but your own country, the Useless Snakes of Americunts who have killed well over 10 million INNOCENT people around the globe since 1960

Try blowing your smoke up someone else's ass you goddam retard,

Sun, 09/06/2015 - 11:22 | 6515271 per-dask
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Your drival is as constant as the Danube's flowing waters. And your reasoning is that of a shrub.

Sun, 09/06/2015 - 11:48 | 6515341 AlfredNeumann
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Fucking Czech Nazi bastard

Sun, 09/06/2015 - 13:08 | 6515620 general ambivalent
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Let's be honest, 10 million every year for 50 years would be much more accurate. What they've done to the rest of the world is nothing short of constant Holodomors. Not to make light of the Soviets, but the state has somehow become worse.

Sun, 09/06/2015 - 14:26 | 6515827 rejected
Sun, 09/06/2015 - 10:35 | 6515112 Chuck Knoblauch
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More talk, no action - bullshit

Sun, 09/06/2015 - 10:37 | 6515119 fritskrach
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Putin is worried about his back garden. And rightfully.

What is John Kerry Frankenstein messing up there anyway?

Fighting terrorism? That has become America´s business model. 

We have had enough shit here in Europe because of all those engineered colorfull revolutions.  

Send the CIA to Kinder Garten. 

One day, the muslim hordes knock on your civilized doors. LIke they did in Sweden, France, UK, Germany, Holland, Danmark,Finland.

Check youtube what you, your women and kids, can expect.

And your president Barrack Houssein II Obama will welcome them warmly.

Keep on going guys!

Sun, 09/06/2015 - 10:47 | 6515154 Chuck Knoblauch
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Only the US is stupid enough to have Russian troops in the US under UN command.

Sun, 09/06/2015 - 10:37 | 6515120 fritskrach
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Putin is worried about his back garden. And rightfully.

What is John Kerry Frankenstein messing up there anyway?

Fighting terrorism? That has become America´s business model. 

We have had enough shit here in Europe because of all those engineered colorfull revolutions.  

Send the CIA to Kinder Garten. 

One day, the muslim hordes knock on your civilized doors. LIke they did in Sweden, France, UK, Germany, Holland, Danmark,Finland.

Check youtube what you, your women and kids, can expect.

And your president Barrack Houssein II Obama will welcome them warmly.

Keep on going guys!

Sun, 09/06/2015 - 10:37 | 6515122 Monetas
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Wait until Trump is Prez .... Russia will lose the Crimea, Ukraine, Muslim Republiks .... the Sunnis and Israel will clean Iran's clock .... China, Korea and Japan will have Siberia and the Pacific islands returned to them .... Russia's white population will be smaller than Poland's !

Sun, 09/06/2015 - 11:49 | 6515344 Rock On Roger
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The book of proverbs does have some wisdom such as 16:18.

 

 

Sun, 09/06/2015 - 12:22 | 6515470 Max Steel
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hahahaha 

 

Sun, 09/06/2015 - 18:23 | 6516470 where_is the_nuke
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Me thinks you are an inbred Kike coz you have the same kind of fantasy they have.

Sun, 09/06/2015 - 10:42 | 6515136 cwsuisse
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First and foremost the US did contribute to unleash a conflict that killed a huge number of people and made millions of Syrian homeless, not few of them migrating these days to Europe or drowning somewhere in the mediteranean sea. The humanitarian crisis triggered by US action in Syria is huge and another terrible example for the irresponsible activities of the US in foreign countries. Under the circumstances it seems outright silly if american politicians complain about the activities of other countries.

Sun, 09/06/2015 - 10:44 | 6515144 AlfredNeumann
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Here is a FACT, the USA has killed well over 10 million INNOCENT people around the globe since 1960. 

None of them were EVER a threat to the USA.

Sun, 09/06/2015 - 10:47 | 6515155 Monetas
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Apparently, that wan't enough .... thanks for the mandate, Deutsche Boy ?

Sun, 09/06/2015 - 10:48 | 6515159 AlfredNeumann
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Du kannst mein Arsch lecken, Scheisskopf.

Sun, 09/06/2015 - 11:04 | 6515191 anonymike
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The criminals that call themselves US government and the other central governments around the world, which have the same owners, are about to take the mass murder to a new level, a couple of orders of magnitude beyond 10M. This article is just documenting the foreplay, as mentioned in my earlier comment on this article.

Sun, 09/06/2015 - 11:20 | 6515264 Urban Redneck
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You count deaths caused by American foreign policy the same way many many Jews counts deaths by the Holocaust.

Or as Bubba would say, it all depends on what your definition of "killed" is...

It's not a fact- it' a statistic.

Sun, 09/06/2015 - 10:45 | 6515146 Monetas
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Vladivostock will be renamed .... Kim Shi City !

Sun, 09/06/2015 - 10:47 | 6515157 AlfredNeumann
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Pure idiocy from you, a total retard

Sun, 09/06/2015 - 10:48 | 6515158 Ms No
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" In other words, the State Department is tacitly admitting that this has very little (and more likely nothing) to do with ISIS."

Translation: The State Dept is trying to minimize the relevance of ISIS because it's ISIS meme has become so ludicrous as to back them into a corner on how to portray Russia as an evil aggressor when they are positioning themselves to possibly take out ISIS in Syria risking a complete humiliation of the US and it's bullshit ISIS story.

Can't wait to see MSM fall all over themselves to shine this turd.  I wonder if there is such a thing as peak inversion of the truth, if there is we may be there.

 

Sun, 09/06/2015 - 12:28 | 6515489 Element
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Western 'intervention' and 'aid' and 'training' in Syria has stunk on every level since 2011. I don't expect it to get any better, soon.

After years of refusing to put in place a no fly zone, we now have the makings of a defacto no fly zone anyway (with no mandate), that is about to be challenged directly.

Sun, 09/06/2015 - 10:48 | 6515161 Keynesians say ...
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I thought Kerry was too busy spending all that Heinz money? Can he be euthanized humanely like all the other horses ?

Sun, 09/06/2015 - 10:51 | 6515172 Monetas
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A ketchup transfusion and bone marrow replacement .... would do the trick ?

Sun, 09/06/2015 - 10:49 | 6515166 Monetas
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No one is innocent .... we were all born with original sin .... read your Bible, Deutsche Boy ?

Sun, 09/06/2015 - 10:54 | 6515182 AlfredNeumann
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Original sin, the most fucked up notion ever concocted and has tainted many a young mind

Look at you,Monetas, a  fucking lunatic who believes Buybull fairytales.

What a pathetic piece of shit you are.

 

Sun, 09/06/2015 - 11:01 | 6515209 Monetas
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It was fun .... exposing you .... Dutch Boy .... you get the credit .... you did all the work ?

Sun, 09/06/2015 - 11:47 | 6515331 AlfredNeumann
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You didn't expose anyone but yourself.  Proving with each one of your comments that you are  brain dead retard.

Good work.

Sun, 09/06/2015 - 11:47 | 6515332 AlfredNeumann
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You didn't expose anyone but yourself.  Proving with each one of your comments that you are  brain dead retard.

Good work.

Sun, 09/06/2015 - 10:56 | 6515188 AlfredNeumann
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Why are all you Buybulll thumpers such braindead retards??

 

 

Sun, 09/06/2015 - 10:55 | 6515187 Monetas
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The Cold War .... he who kills the fewest innocents wins .... 10 million innocents trumps 80 million .... vas sagen Sie, Deutsche Jugend ?

Sun, 09/06/2015 - 11:00 | 6515204 AlfredNeumann
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Ich sagen ''Du bist ein Scheisskopf und Dumkopf.

Fuck off you goddam IMBECILE

Take a hike and shove your fucking Buybulll uo your ass sideways.

Sun, 09/06/2015 - 10:58 | 6515196 Brokenarrow
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one day they will get millions of innocent americans killed. obama is just a pawn in this game. it's the two million bueracrats and congress that will be responsible. they will survive. you will burn. they have been sucking your blood for a hundred years. don't think they will stop. ever.

Sun, 09/06/2015 - 11:06 | 6515218 Monetas
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You can still catch the afternoon mass .... at Wiesbaden .... and be forgiven, Deutsche Kinder ?

Sun, 09/06/2015 - 12:54 | 6515226 djsmps
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.

Sun, 09/06/2015 - 11:09 | 6515228 AlfredNeumann
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You know who was the first motherfucker?  

Cain, because they kicked him out of the garden and he married whom???

Seeing as Adan and Eve were the first 2 people on the planet.

LOL.  really I am not bothering with NON thinking retards like you.

Have a nice day .

Sun, 09/06/2015 - 11:14 | 6515245 AlfredNeumann
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I bet you worked at the Popeyes at Wiesbaden Px center.

BTW, I helped close up Rhein Main a few years back.  It all part of Frankfurt airport now. Cargo center

Sun, 09/06/2015 - 12:52 | 6515567 djsmps
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At the red cathedral in Wiesbaden?

Sun, 09/06/2015 - 11:44 | 6515224 thunderchief
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"Look Lavrov, Genitically Modified, just like my Frankenstien chin."

Sun, 09/06/2015 - 11:13 | 6515244 roadhazard
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I welcome teh Pootin. Lets see what cha got.

Sun, 09/06/2015 - 11:15 | 6515248 Able Ape
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Putin: "Well, Mr. Ed, we see the bastion of democracy, free speech and tolerance that you have created in Iraq and are in awe of your accomplishments created through careful thought and extraordinary intelligence - therefore we are LAUGHING in your face, you spineless punk, go take some more videos of you walking around with a M16, you wanker!...."

Sun, 09/06/2015 - 11:16 | 6515253 xavi1951
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new Alfred

Your rhetoric makes me think that you are an unemployed/unemployable teenager, living in your parents basement, having tantrums over things you know nothing about.  Take a chill pill and put some clothes on.

Sun, 09/06/2015 - 11:44 | 6515325 AlfredNeumann
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Fuck off . I know much more than any of you having real experience in the region.

Sun, 09/06/2015 - 11:56 | 6515369 AlfredNeumann
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New?  I have been here over 4 year, asswipe.

OH and BTW, dipshit, does it really matter how long someone is here?

Go play wth your little 9mm peepee you fucktard.

Sun, 09/06/2015 - 11:17 | 6515254 per-dask
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Across a resurgent Russia, Stalin lives again, at least in the minds and hearts of Russian nationalists recognizing Putin as heir to the former dictator's model of iron-fisted rule. Recent tributes celebrate Stalin's military command acumen and geopolitical prowess. His ruthless repression of enemies, real and imagined, has been brushed aside by Putin as the cost to be paid for defeating the Nazis. Putin seeks to recover territory lost in the 1991 Soviet breakup, his Stalinesque claim to a right to a "sphere of influence" has allowed him to legitimize the seizure of Crimea from Ukraine and declare an obligation to defend Russians and Russian speakers beyond his nation's borders. His incursion into Syria is but another step in recouping the Soviet empire he believes was wrongly surrendered.

Sun, 09/06/2015 - 11:24 | 6515273 Pliskin
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Is that you, Yats?

Sun, 09/06/2015 - 11:29 | 6515283 per-dask
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No, it is Pavel.

Sun, 09/06/2015 - 11:34 | 6515301 AlfredNeumann
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Pavel the son of a whore Nazi bastard..  I got a bullet with your name on it

Sun, 09/06/2015 - 11:47 | 6515333 per-dask
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Is there no regulation of your vileness and decreptitude Alfred? What feeds your putrid, brutish intellect?

Sun, 09/06/2015 - 11:54 | 6515361 AlfredNeumann
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What feeds it is fucking Nazi genocidal bastard LIARS like you.  WE don't take kindly  to Nazis here.

Everything you say is pure LIES.

Are you in Europe?  I am  and can find you for a meeting to ''discuss'' 

Better wear kevlar 

Sun, 09/06/2015 - 12:01 | 6515385 per-dask
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I am not a Nazi, I am a lover of democracy. You should investigate this ideology. It is fair and just. Can you direct me to a good tailor skilled in summer weight kevlar suits?

Sun, 09/06/2015 - 11:29 | 6515285 NoWayJose
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Huh? There is more capitalism in Russia today than in the United States. And sure, there is only 'one party' in Russia to vote for - but is it any different here? The difference is that our One Party has a 7 percent approval rating while Putin has a 93 percent approval rating! Putin is a lot like Trump - a cheerleader who is looking out for his country's interests. Why is that so evil? And why is it evil to support an elected leader in Syria who is fighting a civil war? Or is it OK to support unelected rebels fighting against elected leaders?

Sun, 09/06/2015 - 11:37 | 6515306 per-dask
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Ther are a few journalists sitting in prison cells who would disagree with you. And some dictators who were "elected by the people' who would agree.

Sun, 09/06/2015 - 11:43 | 6515320 AlfredNeumann
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Pavel, the Nazi bastard needs a bullet in the head. I got one for you, LIAR.

Sun, 09/06/2015 - 21:58 | 6517098 conscious being
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Plenty of people get murdered in the West when it suits the kleptocrats.

Sun, 09/06/2015 - 11:55 | 6515362 silverer
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"- but is it any different here?"  Yes.  It's different in the US.  The US pushes racism into the mix for political purposes.  They don't do that in Russia from what I see.

Sun, 09/06/2015 - 14:15 | 6515788 rejected
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Well Putin is not quite the blowhard that Trump is...

Sun, 09/06/2015 - 11:42 | 6515319 AlfredNeumann
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Fuck off ,Pavel you son of a bitch.

Sun, 09/06/2015 - 11:50 | 6515348 per-dask
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It appears the truth greatly disturbs you Alfred.

Sun, 09/06/2015 - 12:02 | 6515391 AlfredNeumann
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It appears you don't know a goddam thing about the truth.

You are a pure liar  

You are just pissed off because your Russian boyfriend left you for someone with a bigger cock.

Sun, 09/06/2015 - 13:10 | 6515628 Volkodav
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bored

Sun, 09/06/2015 - 23:42 | 6517420 BarkingCat
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Giant fail there, dildo ass. ..Stalin was a Georgian.

Sun, 09/06/2015 - 11:23 | 6515272 NoWayJose
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Could not believe Meet the Press today.

Blamed EU refugee crisis on Assad. (Why not ISIS or the hit squads trying to take over Syria? Is Assad also responsible for Libya? Or the other countries exporting refugees?)

Said that Civil War in Syria is going to last longer now with Assad getting Russian help. (Why not a shorter war if Assad regains control with Russian help?)

And of course, it goes without saying that they claimed the U.S. has a moral responsibility to take lots of these refugees in. (Most of whom do not want to go to the evil United States anyway)

Sun, 09/06/2015 - 11:41 | 6515317 AlfredNeumann
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What do you expect?  ALL US media is totally Zionist controlled.  

Sun, 09/06/2015 - 11:27 | 6515279 bid the soldier...
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no one is talking about the fact that 

1) coalition is flying over and bombing Syria WITHOUT Assad's permission

2) there are 60 countries in the coalition, all under the thumb of the Negro

3) the coalition is famous for its pre-planned mistakes (oh we thought you guys were ISIS. we didn't mean to kill all those Syrian troops.)

4) the Negro can order a no-fly zone in Eastern Syria just like that.  Without Russian air assets to challange it, it's kosher.

5) I need offee and a donut 

Sun, 09/06/2015 - 11:48 | 6515340 forputin
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Putin should give back Assad those chemical weapons to kill kill kill! Go Putin! Go Assad! Go Kim Jong-un! Those are true leaders because they stand up against western zionist  bankster lizard rule!

Sun, 09/06/2015 - 11:51 | 6515353 silverer
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Well, I suppose for Russia it gets the collateral damage of an initial conflict away from ethnic Russians in Ukraine and shifts it to the unfortunate Syrian population.  Russia should pack the Syrians onto boats and send them to all the NATO countries.  No happy ending here, either.  Sooner or later the continental US will see war on its soil if these idiots in Washington keep it up.

Sun, 09/06/2015 - 11:56 | 6515367 per-dask
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Russians, as witnessed by their history, have always exhibited a great proclivity towards dependency, brutality and administration by terror. They often distained reason but responded favorably to and admired brutality. The Russians never developed a strong culture of  substance and when relieved of the trappings of Western civilization quickly returned to their indigenous values of brutality, administration by terror, murder on a vast scale and monumental incompetence. Russia like its predecessor the Mongol empire was always parasitic and dependent upon booty derived from theft for sustenance. Russia because of its ontology was never a productive nation and was always buttressed by lawlessness and criminality.

The Russian people, well, they always did love their leadership who more often than not did bring them nothing but death. It seems that the noble Russian common folk had much difficulty in differentiating between security and slavery and did get what they deserved, namely slavery, no security and a terrible life. And they did this for over eight hundred years. Seems that eight hundred years was not enough time to learn, as today they are embarking on another round of misery. Beginning in Syria.

Sun, 09/06/2015 - 11:57 | 6515375 AlfredNeumann
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We have got Pavel the Pud Pounder here now to join the retard NewsOutlet.   Probably one and the same  LOL

Sun, 09/06/2015 - 11:59 | 6515377 AlfredNeumann
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Tell us Pavel, you goddam retard,  how long has your one brain cell been on life support?

Are you in Prague??  I can drive there easily to put you out of your misery.

Sun, 09/06/2015 - 12:04 | 6515399 per-dask
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Alfred, you are genius. You prove my point of discourse with only one succient sentence. No one else could accomplish so much with so little.

Sun, 09/06/2015 - 12:05 | 6515405 AlfredNeumann
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Pavel. wipe that Russian sperm off your chin, you pathetic Nazi.  

Sun, 09/06/2015 - 12:05 | 6515406 AlfredNeumann
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Pavel. wipe that Russian sperm off your chin, you pathetic Nazi.  

Sun, 09/06/2015 - 12:10 | 6515431 BlussMann
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You've mistaken Russia with the US - you've described the USSA to the proverbial "T".

Sun, 09/06/2015 - 12:12 | 6515437 Spiritof42
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It's good you brought that up. It's reason for the west to not mess with them. They were invaded three times with the invaders suffering terrible losses.

Russia like its predecessor the Mongol empire was always parasitic and dependent upon booty derived from theft for sustenance. 

Russians were Mongols? Who would have guessed? The word "russia" was derived from Rus. They were vikings who settled around Kiev to trade with Constantinople. They were driven out of Kiev to Moscow by the Mongols.

BTW, that description applies to every government since the Sumerians.

Sun, 09/06/2015 - 12:26 | 6515483 per-dask
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You missed the early schools lesson on reading comprehension; the statement clearly does not make that equivalence Russians were Mongols.

Yes, Russia is more than capable of defending itself as it's proved numerous times. It has also shown it has no remorse in invading its neighbors as it continually does so. If the Viking blood runs strong in Russians today maybe there's a chance Russia could adopt a peaceful democracy like practiced in Norway and Sweden.

Sun, 09/06/2015 - 12:47 | 6515549 Spiritof42
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does not make that equivalence Russians were Mongols.

I realized that after I started writing. I couldn't resist the temptation to point out that they were victims of the Mongol invaders.

maybe there's a chance Russia could adopt a peaceful democracy like practiced in Norway and Sweden.

Personally, I believe that the market economy has become too over-whelming for nation-states to control. They're going the way of the dinosaurs. 

Sun, 09/06/2015 - 23:46 | 6517426 BarkingCat
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exactly who was the first man in space?

Sun, 09/06/2015 - 11:57 | 6515372 AlfredNeumann
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We have got Pavel the Pud Pounder here now to join the retard NewsOutlet.   Probably one and the same  LOL

Sun, 09/06/2015 - 12:04 | 6515398 AlfredNeumann
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Poor Pavel here.

He now hates Russians because his Russian boyfriend left him for someone with a bigger cock.

Man up Pavel.   There are lots of cocks to suck in Prague.  Find one.

Sun, 09/06/2015 - 12:17 | 6515454 per-dask
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Yes Alfred, it is well known that you troll yours there. Prague is beautiful in the springtime, yes Alfred? What was is the name of the establishment you were seen exiting, Blau Babylonia, or something like that? Could you tell all the story?

Sun, 09/06/2015 - 12:21 | 6515464 AlfredNeumann
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Is that the gay bar you go to in Prague?

 

Sun, 09/06/2015 - 12:22 | 6515472 AlfredNeumann
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Yes Prague is beautiful in spring time but its almost autumn now.

And seeing as YOU are there now. Prague forever will be now called NAZI haven.

 

Sun, 09/06/2015 - 23:51 | 6517439 BarkingCat
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The problem with Prague is that it seems to show that the Czechs have no pride. I was there this spring and there is grafiti everywhere in the old city.
That is discusting. To me it showed that the people lack pride in their own culture.
It is a shame because it is a pretty city and people are friendly.

Sun, 09/06/2015 - 12:07 | 6515416 AlfredNeumann
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Pavel

If not for Russia you would be speaking German, du Arschloch.

Sun, 09/06/2015 - 12:10 | 6515429 dsty
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Hey ZH pods

It is hard to have an intelligent conversation with juvenile minded senior citizen meathead alias Dutchboy messing things up

Sun, 09/06/2015 - 12:13 | 6515439 AlfredNeumann
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When you have retard liars like Pavel and Monetas here you ask for it.

Sun, 09/06/2015 - 12:17 | 6515442 Element
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"... In addition, the Russians have asked at least one country bordering Syria for a window of time to fly a detachment of warplanes over its territory and into Syria, the officials said. ... Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov has been on a diplomatic offensive in recent weeks trying to marshal support for a plan to bring peace to Syria that would include a role for Assad. ..."

 

Ah, so there's the real reason why Obama asked Abbot to commence bombing Syria as well about two weeks back. Western intel found out via Russian attempts to get flight clearances through a NATO state.

It looks to me like Assad is about to exit and be replaced by a democratic new guy accompanied by a major offensive to roll over ISIL areas and enforce a ceasefire on them, as they are not going to stop any other way. The reality is the Taliban were set running when US heavy bombers precision pounded the shit out of their lines in 2001-2002. That can be done again.

Maybe the West and Russia will see some common ground here to cooperate to eliminate all militia rebel groups?

Sun, 09/06/2015 - 12:20 | 6515461 AlfredNeumann
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Russia has a big naval base at Tartus in Syria.   

The USA tried to take the base in Crimea but it backfired.

Russia will NEVER give up that base to the USA Nazis.

Expect WW3 and I will be helping Russia  .  I already have Ramstein and Geilenkirchen ready for retribution.  

Sun, 09/06/2015 - 13:44 | 6515707 Element
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Blah blah blah ... blow it out your arse Russian troll.

Sun, 09/06/2015 - 14:06 | 6515768 Max Steel
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Hmmm.....................

 " It looks to me like Assad is about to exit and be replaced by a democratic new guy accompanied by a major offensive "

You suppose too much  . Stop Fantasizing . So usa pacific wankers can't take the truth. Oops I forgot we're all trolls for mentioning the obvious facts isn't it showbag.

Sun, 09/06/2015 - 14:35 | 6515864 Element
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I have never once seen you make a remotely intelligent remark on any topic, and yes, you are in fact a Russian Troll, there's no queston whatsoever about that.

 

Game of trolls: the hip digi-kids helping Putin's fight for online supremacy - Tuesday 18 August 2015

Sun, 09/06/2015 - 14:34 | 6515861 bid the soldier...
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Turkey, for $400, Alex.

the Russians have asked at least one country bordering Syria.

Turkey, for $500.

Who recently had Spanish, German and US Patriot Missiles removed from its country?

Turkey, for $100.

Who is partnering with Russia to build the Turkish Stream gas pipe line from the Caspian Sea to Greece?


Sun, 09/06/2015 - 18:05 | 6516405 Volkodav
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never trust the turkies...

Sun, 09/06/2015 - 12:14 | 6515446 BlussMann
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Fantastic, Putin has checked the dullards of the  West again, illustrating their boundless hyprocrisy. The "West", mainly USSA, Pink-Black-Brown armed forces will find the Ruskies a bit more of a challange - better tell the USAF to put a hold on those drag queen shows for a while and amp up training.

Sun, 09/06/2015 - 12:24 | 6515481 AlfredNeumann
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I heard they have separte NCO and Officer clubs now for the gays.  They are packed every night  also a bathouse on each base.

Sun, 09/06/2015 - 12:36 | 6515518 BlussMann
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The USAF AB at Los Angeles hosted a drag queen/gay show a few years ago, plenty of U Tube shots. The USSA is a rotton as the end of Rome.

Sun, 09/06/2015 - 12:28 | 6515494 AlfredNeumann
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Pavel

Its a 3 hour drive from here to Frankfurt and then another 3 hours down to Prague.

I cruise the autobahn at 120mph which as you know is LEGAL here.

So lets say we meet and discuss your position (as Nazi Russian hater)

Deal?

Sun, 09/06/2015 - 12:33 | 6515508 per-dask
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That's good Alfred, now can you add? How much is 3 plus 3? And if you travel at 120mph for 3 plus 3 hours how far have you driven? Come little Alfred, take the test and you can play in the schoolyard later.

Sun, 09/06/2015 - 12:37 | 6515519 quasi_verbatim
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Bombing is for pussies. Turkey, Saudi, Jordan and Qatar are an Axis of Assholes. Putin is feinting right, the real objective is Wahhabistan.

Get those boots on the ground, Penatagonia.

Britain can't help this time. We're sending twenty, a platoon and a half, to secure the Libyan border, all couple thousand miles of it, so we're fully committed.

Sun, 09/06/2015 - 12:47 | 6515553 RawPawg
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"American officials acknowledge that they are not certain of Russia’s intentions"

 

oh,they know..and they also know..we're screwed on every front...militarily,and economically  

 

get more Spam(yum).

Sun, 09/06/2015 - 12:53 | 6515571 per-dask
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Where's queer-bait AlfredNeumann? Is he off playing with himself again?

Sun, 09/06/2015 - 13:04 | 6515593 AlfredNeumann
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I am here ,packing my bags and cleaning my sniper rifle for my trip down to Prague.

I will give you 2 choices

Live but without kneecaps 

or

I take head shot and put you out of your misery.

Sun, 09/06/2015 - 13:06 | 6515609 optimator
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Do not slow down when you take that right hand turn on your way up to the castle!

Sun, 09/06/2015 - 13:06 | 6515605 I Write Code
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>here’s what the US claims to know (via LA Times) ...
>US intelligence has captured evidence of a significant escalation
>of Russia's military engagement in Syria's civil war, including
>satellite images of an apparent Russian base for staging troops and heavy
>equipment under construction

"capture evidence" of a move that the US negotiated with Putin and approved in advance?

 

Sun, 09/06/2015 - 13:06 | 6515610 AlfredNeumann
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Russia already has Naval base in Syria for years.

They have the right to build another base as per agreement with Syria.

USA has NO business being there  They and their terrorist buddies are the aggressors.

BTW. LA TIMES is a totally right wing neocon rag.

Sun, 09/06/2015 - 13:21 | 6515651 RawPawg
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http://www.scmp.com/news/china/diplomacy-defence/article/1854800/10-most...

 

just a friendly reminder of whats out our back door

 

your move,USA(prove to me we ain't got nuttin to worry about).

Sun, 09/06/2015 - 13:28 | 6515667 AlfredNeumann
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You have nothing to worry about if you back off with the bullying and wars of aggression.

Keep bullying and someone will give you a bloody nose.

Bullies always get their comeuppance.

Sun, 09/06/2015 - 13:37 | 6515693 dadcss
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Another war over energy.

This time over natural gas instead of oil.

U.S. and Europe want their own pipeline supplied from their own puppet countries in that region.

Russia wants gas supplied from Russia, Iran and Iraq.

Consider this. Barry badly wants Congress to pass the Iran agreement.

Iran has never stuck to an agreement. So will that be our excuse to invade/bomb Iran and put their natural gas supplies out of the picture?

Russia knows they have got to draw the line here and now on American metaling in the region.

Meanwhile as winter draws near, the people of Europe better start gathering anything that burns.

Sun, 09/06/2015 - 13:39 | 6515699 AlfredNeumann
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Sorry , but this has nothing to do with energy or pipelines.

Its all about geopolitics and balance of power.

 

Sun, 09/06/2015 - 13:43 | 6515709 per-dask
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Wake up you tool-fool. It's all about oil. Oil is power. Money is power. What a simpelton.

Sun, 09/06/2015 - 13:45 | 6515716 AlfredNeumann
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Wrong, fuckface  Its all about balance of power and control of the region.

Your ZioNazi psychopath  buddies in Israel are behind it.

Now fuck off, you little piece of Czech shit.

Sun, 09/06/2015 - 22:02 | 6517175 Freddie
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It is also about water my Dutch friend.  Winston has a good post here or another recent Syrian thread. 

Sun, 09/06/2015 - 13:44 | 6515712 AlfredNeumann
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You are totally wrong. its the USA that has never kept an agreement NOT Iran

FYI, Iran hasn't attacked or invaded anyone in 250 years.

And yet, the USA has killed millions attacking nations around the globe.

Nations that NEVER,EVER were a threat to the USA.

In fact, the USA overthrew a democratically elected President of Iran in 1953 and installed a murderous dictator.

You think Iranians forget that?

Oh, and the USA INTENTIONALLY shot down an Iranian Airbus killing 300 people.  

Iran should not sign any deal with the USA>  big mistake on their part.    The USA will break the deal vis a vis a false flag attack.  

The USA are cowards and bullies and all around PUNKS

They will get their comeuppance some day, as all bullies do.

Sun, 09/06/2015 - 13:54 | 6515743 per-dask
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You're right the Iranians shouldn't sign an agreement with America. And the stupid fkng Russians shold make damn sure the psycho Iranians don't get within 100 years of possing nuclear weapons. Because if they do there's a damn good chance they'll use them on the Russian, the Russians not being an Islamic republic and all. At least not yet.

Sun, 09/06/2015 - 14:00 | 6515755 AlfredNeumann
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The psychos are in Israel.  not Iran you goddam MORON.

Why do you support genocidal psychos  ZioNazis that laugh about shooting women and children but run like scared rabbits when up against Real men of Hezbollah.

I told you  to fuck off with your LIES a while ago

Now beat it, little kid and get educated..

Shoooooooooooooooo

Sun, 09/06/2015 - 22:15 | 6517212 conscious being
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Easy for anyone not poisoned with the Zino-cult poison to acknowledge the truth on where thhe psychos live.

Sun, 09/06/2015 - 22:24 | 6517242 conscious being
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Easy for anyone not poisoned with the Zino-cult poison to acknowledge the truth on where thhe psychos live.

Sun, 09/06/2015 - 18:01 | 6516397 Volkodav
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Russian are most literate and educated of world.

Now Russian students learning requirement is two foreign languages.

you know nothing about Russia

is it interesting to you other than show your inane stupidity of everything?

 

Sun, 09/06/2015 - 22:38 | 6517292 Freddie
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Russia has been a predominantly Christian country for what 800 years?  With the exception of 80 years of mass murder and terrorism by certain non-Christian monsters. 

Sun, 09/06/2015 - 13:46 | 6515721 per-dask
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Putin's been supporting Assad's dictatorship for years by helping him kill off the opposition. The opposition finally stood up and said that's enough, we're going to fight back. Two bit dictators, stifling freedom and commerce.

Sun, 09/06/2015 - 13:57 | 6515749 AlfredNeumann
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Assad was voted into office in elections  that were as legitimate as American and European elections

I suggest you go push your fucking lies somewhere else you Czech coward bastard.

Sun, 09/06/2015 - 14:12 | 6515779 per-dask
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Right, that's why half the country of Syria is trying to kill him. How is it you are duped so eaisly into believing lies Alfredoo? Is it that pea brain between your ears?

Sun, 09/06/2015 - 14:26 | 6515829 AlfredNeumann
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Half the country is terrorists and ISIS you MORON.

Funded by the CIA to overthrow the SECULAR doctor and he has British Christian wife and kids and he protects Chistians against Islamists.

More FACTS for you, Bozo,

Sun, 09/06/2015 - 17:55 | 6516380 Volkodav
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not Syrians. Aggression is from outside.

you know nothing about Syria

Sun, 09/06/2015 - 17:51 | 6516372 Volkodav
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Iran has not attacked/invaded any country to start a war in over 200 years.

but has had plenty of dirty done to them.

Iranians are Persians, not Arabs.

Sun, 09/06/2015 - 13:41 | 6515703 per-dask
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Putin will have young Russians dying in the streets of Syria for the sake of what? What does Syria do for the Russian people? Nothing. Putin will sacrifice his people for a few more Rubels in his and his cronies bank accounts. That's all this is about. Putin and the banksters trying to keep a natural gas pipeline from being built through Syria and on to Europe. A pipeline that breaks the Russian monopoly of gas sales to the EU. A war for profit, started by Putin and paid for with young Russian lives.

Sun, 09/06/2015 - 13:48 | 6515725 AlfredNeumann
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You are a delusional little imbecile Czech asswipe.

 

Sun, 09/06/2015 - 13:52 | 6515736 AlfredNeumann
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Hey Czech fuckface. 

The USA invaded Iraq based on lies.  4000 Americans died for nothing.   

The USA invaded Vietnam based on lies (I was in Vietnam in 71-72)  based on lies.  (no Gulf of Tonkin ever happened)

58,000 Americans died and 2 million Vietnamese.

 

Sun, 09/06/2015 - 14:00 | 6515754 per-dask
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Vietnam, another war started by the stpd fkng Russians and their red communist ambitions. Hasn't the world experienced enough of Russia's brutality? The Korean war, started by communist Russia. That's 40 to 1, democracy vs communism you dumb fkng dog's ass. Want to try some more?

Sun, 09/06/2015 - 14:02 | 6515757 AlfredNeumann
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Listen up  you goddam imbecile. I fought in Vietnam and you don't know jack shit about Vietnam OR Russia.

IN fact you don't know much of ANYTHING.

 

Sun, 09/06/2015 - 14:06 | 6515765 per-dask
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Keyboard bragger piece of putrid shit, spitting out vomit, you funny guy but no one believe you, ha ha ha go back put dick in mouth, be quite like good little turd.

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