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Russian Military Presence In Syria Risks "Confrontation" With US-Backed Forces, Kerry Warns Lavrov
On Friday, Vladimir Putin conceded that the scope of Russian military involvement in Syria is “quite serious.”
In a replay of the Kremlin’s official line regarding Russian involvement in Ukraine, Putin did not admit that his soldiers were on the ground to play a direct combat role.
However, the Russian President’s comments did suggest that Moscow’s logistical and technical assistance goes far beyond the purely “political” cover the Kremlin has granted Assad via Moscow’s Security Council veto. It also suggests that Russia isn’t prepared to accept a Syrian state controlled by a puppet government likely to be sympathetic to Washington and Riyadh.
Of course the official reason for Moscow’s presence in Syria is the same as the Washington’s: they’re both there, ostensibly, to fight ISIS.
For those who still do not understand that ISIS has become, as we put it earlier, “a kind of catch-all, go-to excuse for legitimizing whatever one feels like doing,” the situation in Syria can be extraordinarily confusing. For instance, at least one mainstream media outlet was having quite a difficult time on Saturday trying to understand why the US seems so concerned about Russia’s presence in Syria when both sides are supposed to be after the same thing - that is, defeating terrorism. The reason is because both sides are not in fact after the same thing, and neither of which cares too much about what does or doesn’t happen to ISIS unless the group’s fate somehow matters in determining whether a post-civil war Syria is still governed by Assad. In short, ISIS has played its role. The Assad regime is destabilized and Damascus is up for grabs. From here on out, it’s all about whether a coalition comprised of the US, Turkey, Saudi Arabia, Jordan, and Qatar ends up in a direct military conflict with Russia and the Assad regime. That would be the geopolitical “main event.”
Underscoring the above is the alarm with which Russia’s stepped up presence in Syria has been greeted by Washington. Far from being elated that, amid the worst relations between the US and Russia since the Cold War, the two powers are still on the same page when it comes to combating terrorism, Washington is instead worried that the Kremlin is willing to resort to overt military support to shore up Assad’s depleted forces. As a reminder, here’s what the US claims to know (via LA Times):
US intelligence has captured evidence of a significant escalation of Russia's military engagement in Syria's civil war, including satellite images of an apparent Russian base for staging troops and heavy equipment under construction near a port city that is a stronghold for Syrian President Bashar Assad, U.S. officials say.
The reconnaissance photos of possible military housing being built near the international airport in Latakia province provides strong evidence of deepening involvement by President Vladimir Putin's government in the four-year-old Syrian war, according to the officials, who requested anonymity because they were not authorized to discuss the matter publicly.
In addition, the Russians have asked at least one country bordering Syria for a window of time to fly a detachment of warplanes over its territory and into Syria, the officials said. The officials would not name the country, but Turkey lies between Russia and Syria.
Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov has been on a diplomatic offensive in recent weeks trying to marshal support for a plan to bring peace to Syria that would include a role for Assad. But those talks with Saudi and other Middle East leaders have failed to win over opponents.
The new military buildup could reflect a recognition by the Russians that with those talks going nowhere, Assad needs more help from them.
"It's pretty obvious that all the Russian logistics preparation is to do something significant in support of Assad," said Christopher Harmer, a military analyst at the Institute for the Study of War, a nonpartisan public policy group in Washington. "At this point, it's too big to be a misdirection."
“Too big to be a misdirection,” which presumably is why John Kerry jumped on the phone with Lavrov on Saturday. The State Department says "the secretary made clear that if such reports were accurate, these actions could further escalate the conflict, lead to greater loss of innocent life, increase refugee flows and risk confrontation with the anti-ISIL coalition operating in Syria.”
Note that if any of what the State Department says there is true, it’s entirely because John Kerry knows that Russian support will allow the Assad regime to continue to fight for control of the country. That is, if anyone actually believed Russia was there to fight ISIS, then one would think the effect would be to decrease refugee flows and lead to fewer civilian casualties as ISIS’ forces are swiftly defeated. After all, the Soviet experience in Afghanistan notwithstanding, one would certainly think that ISIS isn’t operationally capable of waging an extended ground war against the Russian army (as an aside, it would be ironic - given the Soviet-Afghan war - if the Russians end up mired in a protracted conflict with a CIA-backed group of jihadists). However, what would increase refugee flows, lead to greater civilian casualties, and “further escalate the conflict” is if Russia is simply in Syria to help Assad fight on to the bitter end. In other words, the State Department is tacitly admitting that this has very little (and more likely nothing) to do with ISIS.
Here’s The New York Times with more on what Washington claims to know about Russia’s involvement thus far:
Russia has sent a military advance team to Syria and is taking other steps the United States fears may signal that President Vladimir V. Putin is planning to vastly expand his military support for President Bashar al-Assad of Syria, administration officials said Friday.
The Russian moves, including the recent transport of prefabricated housing units for hundreds of people to a Syrian airfield and the delivery of a portable air traffic control station there, are another complicating factor in Secretary of State John Kerry’s repeated efforts to enlist Mr. Putin’s support for a diplomatic solution to the bloody conflict in Syria.
The Russians have also filed military overflight requests with neighboring countries through September.
American officials acknowledge that they are not certain of Russia’s intentions, but some say the temporary housing suggests that Russia could deploy as many as 1,000 advisers or other military personnel to the airfield near the Assad family’s ancestral home. The airfield serves Latakia, Syria’s principal port city.
American intelligence analysts are also looking at ship loadings in Russia to determine what might be bound for Syria, and one official speculated that the Russian deployment might eventually grow to 2,000 to 3,000 personnel.
“There are some worrisome movements — logistical, preparatory types of things.”
Yes, “preparatory types of things” - the million dollar geopolitical question is this: what exactly are they preparing for?
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You nothing but loud mouth braggar, everybody know.... big joke small man make soo much noise, make soo little sense. humorus peon, how much ruble you make each day for labor?
pottymouth...
You are the Imbecile Alfred, why wast you energy--He can't comprehend anything you are saying,,, Ignoring is the only rational response here!
stand aside..better to learn somethings from those with experience in real
You believe the lies fed you by the USA.
Suggest you study Ho Chi Minh.
He asked the USA for aid and was rejected. He is like the George Washington f Vietnam.
So he went to Russia for help.
America creates enemies to start wars
BECAUSE WARS IS ALL America has for business.
Did you know that the USA in Operation PaperClip in 1946 took in all the Nazis and got them to work in the Pentagon?
that included Werner von Braun who they used for their space program.
Ha! Study Ho Chi Minh. The other fkng killer of 60 million of his own citizens besides Stalin. You're a moron with a mouth Alfred. No wonder Stalin killed so many Russians, if they were as dumb as you, he probably was justified.
Gulf of Tonkin was Russians?
LBJ was a Russian? Who knew? LBJ was a tribe member.
"Yes, “preparatory types of things” - the million dollar geopolitical question is this: what exactly are they preparing for?"
No, the million-dollar question isn't what Russia is preparing for.
It is: What/Whom are they NOT afraid of...?
USA to Russia.... Do as we say,,, not as we do.
President Putin hasn't taken well to that line of diplomacy in the past and I imagine he won't now.
Bullies always get their comeuppance. ALWAYS
Llike the Russians in Afghanistan?
Yep thanks to the USA led Al-Qaeda and Osama bin Laden.
Russians in Afghanistan
Americans in Vietnam
Both were bullies , one still is and its not Russia.
Some Ukranians would disagree. Who else would disagree? Let's see, the Poles, the Hungarians, the Checz, the -oh, well just name every country in Eastern Europe. You may recall how Russia brutalized their citizens.
Nice try at lying
Crimeans happily voted to join Russia
Donbass and Lugansk voted for freedom and independence from the NeoNazis of Kiev
All elections were overseen by neutral parties.
Its called a Referendum
How about Kosovo? Home of Mafia.. the USA recogized them.
Did you know the biggest runners of heroin are the CIA and US govt?
They are shipping it from Afghanistan thru Ramstein AB , Germany and Incirlik AB, Turkey
Same thing they did when I was in Vietnam in 71. Air America (CIA) flew the heroin in every Friday night from Laos.
I know this FIRST HAND
You're so full of bull shit your eyes have turned brown.
per-dask the man knows exactly what he talks of...
stop being dummy look it up search golden triangle drug trade
you will find source and how it arrived from there
might look Col Bo Gritz and others who made efforts to expose SE Asia drug trade
Why do I get the feeling you are a Hasbara pretending to be an eastern European? Or maybe you are just stupid redneck who still believes in that 'democracy' bullshit.
You live in the past of the USSR.
Its a new world, kid
Grow up and get with the program.
Russia in fact is more free than the USA now.
You don't see Russians tasering grandmas and 4 year old kids or shooting people in the back by cops who also rob people legally on the highway in the USA.
Georgia, Osettia, Ukraine and now Syria through the back door. Nothing's changed other than a leaders name or two. Poland is arming itself along with Finland, Sweden, Norway, Bulgaria, Estonia. All getting ready for the next Russian agression.
I'm sure every country sucking on the Federal Reserve's teat of printed money would disagree or jump through hoops or whatever the Negro asks of them.
Soviet USSR was never a Russian construct
Russians suffered more than any.
From 1917 thru Stalin was never Russians in control
Stalin was not a Russian, he was Georgian and a criminal from youth
Krushchev, Breznev were Ukrainian nationals
even Gorby half Ukrainian
until Russian Federation now is Russians and kicked, subdued the worst leftover Red mafiya
I doubt you are competent to learn real history, much less admit
Russians in Afghanistan
Americans in Vietnam
Both were bullies , one still is and its not Russia.
You truly are an idiot. Ho Chi Minh as a hero.
I bet you would be against George Washington also
To gain freedom and your country sometimes people have to die.
Oh, and you called me a Keyboard bragger but I can back up my experiences with photos.
Here I am working for Ghaddaffi in 2002-2003 some of the photos at Sirte I took covertly Why don't you call the CIA, you son of a bitch? I fucking DARE you.
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/b7h6bqkvl46q7vj/AAD3yL68363n_qDF2qacfuXta?dl=0
oh and here I am in Vietnam 71-72 LONG before you were even BORN.
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/haofbapgh70s2d2/AADXcRLPHuHPdqD4dj7Ec9Yaa?dl=0
I was in Prague in '61 to '71 collecting drops from the loyal Checz who hated Russia. Very productive times.
Can you produce photos like I did to back your claim? or a birth certificate?
I doubt you were even born before 1980
Can you produce photos like I did to back your claim? or a birth certificate?
I doubt you were even born before 1980
I used to fuck a Czech woman when I lived in Frankfurt.
Great sex.
You know nothing about Afghanistan.
Soviet was already there, to stabilize region, was building roads, infrastructure, schools and other.
Girls could attend school for good education, later after outside interferences many of these girls
were killed by Fathers, male relatives for wanting education and basic rights.
Soviet backed very moderate Leader, who was murdered and coup takeover by worst criminals
enabled from outside.
Soviets controlled and held three times more of country than later invader ever managed with
small fraction of expenditure.
Former Afghan leaders tell the Soviet were much better soldier fighter and not scared to leave
secured bases unless far superior by multiples.
There were different sides, the normal good people you know nothing of:
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=afghan+freedom+fighter+in+donbass
Assume it's all propaganda until millions start to die.
Could it be that Assad (the elected ruler of Syria) invited Russia ?
I wonder if America or Turkey were invited or just showed up unannounced.
Meanwhile somewhere in Greek: Athens Denies US Request to Close Airspace for Russian Aid to Syria
It looks like nobody listen to the 'empire of chaos' anymore.
US intelligence has captured evidence of a significant escalation of Russia's military engagement in Syria's civil war, including satellite images of an apparent Russian base for staging troops and heavy equipment under construction near a port city that is a stronghold for Syrian President Bashar Assad, U.S. officials say.
This makes perfect sense. Assad and Russia are preparing a stronghold for Assads supporters while giving up control of around 2/3 of Syria proper. They know they can't take back and control Syrian borders. So they are preparing the stronghold to create a mini Syria with Russian bases and Assads minority population and secular Arabs to have a defensible territory. Russia can arm Assad inside this area to be pretty much untouchable. The section of coast line is vital for the Russian naval base, for a naval airfield, and for anti shipping missiles. Russian S-300 and TOR M2 anti aircraft missiles will make air attacks costly. I see this mini Syria as a sensible solution for both Russia, Assad & his people, and for Christian and secular Arabs from across Syria. This would give the USA no chance to crush Assad, and eject Russia from Syria. Look for this to be the logical move from here on it.
A pro Russian rump Syria with Russian Naval and Airbase, plus modern AA systems to protect them. And anti shipping missiles to keep the US Navy hundreds of miles out to sea.
Good assesssment. I concur.
ISIS has already destroyed many ancient artifacts with no respect for history.
Damascus is the cradle of Christianity.
US media never reports that Assad took in millions of Iraqi Christians who fled Iraq in 2003 when the USA attacked Iraq.
Sadly, many of those Christians were butchered later by the USA funded terrorists who want to overthrow Assad
Odd how that stronghold is right where the gas pipeline would be built. Putin is trading Russian lives for a few Rubles profit. Gas to the EU and Putin's pipeline monopoly is worth dying for, so say the Russian banksters.
Just get lost you goddam MORON
You are so full of shit.
Go upstairs and pester your mother after she gets finished blowing her last customer (30 already today).
Confirmed. He is Kike hasbara who would act as a cheergirl when stupid American goys go fight for the interest of Israel.
+1
we have heard back and forth about S-300 going to Syria. Anyone know if Syria really has good AA missiles now? It seems like air space incursions by ZATO has drecreased recently.
Ziad's Syper web site said an F-16 was shot down by SA-2s and SA-9s spoofing the plane to distract it from the S-300 that shot it out of the sky.
Supposedly 2 Apaches from Israel were also shot down. Any other news on this?
Putin, Russia and Iran need to step it up. Iraq and Syria need to ban together.
One thing is certain, if any Russian criticizes this militaristic adventurism of Putin's they will be brutally dealt with. Prison or death awaits those who question Putin's actions. The hallmark of a dictatorship.
Putin is a moderate. Many Russians want him to crush the Nazis in Kiev.
What moderately good at invading other countries? Or moderatley good at threating to use nuclear weapons? He's a raging war monger you tool.
He hasn't invaded anyone you retard. Only country to use nukes is the USA. The USA/NATO are the aggressors and warmongers.
You live in the past, DIPSHIT.
You want to know how many Ukranians fled to Russia for freedom last year?
Or how many Kiev troops deserted and went to Russia?
You live in the past, DIPSHIT.
You want to know how many Ukranians fled to Russia for freedom last year?
Or how many Kiev troops deserted and went to Russia?
Russia lost 20 million people fighting Nazi cocksuckers like you.
Why don't you sign up to fight them instead of being a little coward piece of crap here?
OHHH, you have to wait about 8 years until your are 18,
Personally, I have some remorse at killing Vietnamese but putting a bullet into your empty skull would be a pleasure. then sit back and watch the shit ooze out while drinking my nice cold bottle of Becks
Alfred, you'e a slimy little toad-fucker who probably has a hard time lifting a rifle much less firing one and hitting something. I bet you played with dolls when you were a kid.
You want to know how many Ukranians fled to Russia for freedom last year?
Or how many Kiev troops deserted and went to Russia?
If I were you I would give up with your bullshit lies and propaganda.
BTW, Pentagon boy, want to see my DD214?
Have you ever watched FOX news in Moscow? It's on! Have you read the liberal newspapers in Russia? They openly call for Putin to resign, and demand new elections. You sir are ignorant of reality. All western TV stations of major importantance can be seen in Russia. Newspapers have vicious attacks on Putin every day. Some liberals openly call for a Madian revolution to replace Putin with an American approved Russia. These facts escape you because you know nothing. The jails are not full of Kremlin critics, they operate in the open. Why not leave the basement and go to Russia? Scared to see the place in reality.
@ Pavel the Phocking Phuckhead
in 1991, the USA/NATO agreed not to move closer to Russia.
They broke that deal again. threatening Russia with missiles and putting bases near Russia's border.
Russia has not invaded or attacked ANYONE no matter HOW MANY TIMES you repeat the LIE pumped into your EMTPY SKULL
Russia agreed to not meddle in Georgia and Ossetia; they did. They murderd and blackmailed politicians opposed to Russian political candidates. Therefore, NATO pushed closer to protect. Another incident of Russia not honoring its agreements.
OMG. total fucking BULLSHIT. TOTAL!!!!!!!!!!
Listen up little boy.
Read the ''Grand Chessboard'' by Zbig Brezinkski
Also read ''Confessions of an Economic Hitman'' by John Perkins.
You want to know how many Ukranians fled to Russia for freedom last year?
Or how many Kiev troops deserted and went to Russia?
no one is buying your version....problem was outside installed and armed Saakasvilli caused a lot of death and depradations, is now wanted by Georgia for crimes he committed while President.
This military adventurism by Putin will put the fear in Sweden, Finland and the Balkan countries. They know history. They know Russia will invade at the drop of a hat. They are already threatened with fighter jet flyovers and submarine surveillance. This is a dark omen for the free world, this militarism of a resurgent communist stronghold.
Hahaha, you are a funny little fucktard.
BTW, Finland moved a dairy factory into Russia because it was cheaper to operate there.
VW building an engine plant there.
over 6000 German companies doing business in Russia.
The sanctions againsst Russia has been a boon for Russia farmers.
Necessity is the mother of invention and a great motivator.
Look how much Iran has accomplished under sanctions?
All Russia has to do is kick out all German companies and the EU folds like a cheap suit.
or just shut off all the gas to Europe.
Ever hear of BRICS? Russia has lots of customers other than Europe.
bs
John Kerry, go fuck yourself in Hell. Piece. Of. Shite.
Pavel the fucking Putz
You want to know how many Ukranians fled to Russia for freedom last year?
Or how many Kiev troops deserted and went to Russia?
They were Ukranian-Russians you complete mandjuk. They were Russians who had stolen land from Ukraniansa and new they'd be paying for their crimes without a Russian thug to protect them.
BLAM. a hollow point right between your Nazi lying eyes you SON OF A BITCH!!!!!!!!
Greece does not border Syria
The Useless Snakes doesn't ask anyone's permission to fly into their airspace. Those Nazi pigs think they own the world and are above any laws.
They will find out soon enough they are NOT above the Supreme Law of Cause and Effect.
Fighting evil is not a cakewalk.
We need Captain America or Spiderman.
By using Black Sea, Bulgaria, Greece and the Mediterranean, Russia would have an air supply route that avoids Turkey, but only if that became necessary. Russia has been negotiating alternate gas pipeline routes through Turkey, so there is no reason for the Turks to block Russian flights.
...so there is no reason for the Turks to block Russian flights.
Have to disagree RM. Turks support ISUS. Their supply lines run from Turkey. Russia and Syria do not.
to Pavel, he slimy little Nazi liar here
Even under the USSR , Russia never failed to deliver gas to Europe and Europe always paid promptly
Now your fucking Kiev Nazi buddies deadbeats won't pay but have also been stealing gas.
Pavel,, your momma must be sick that you support Swasticka waving bastards in Kiev
Russia raped the Ukranian economy and holds the EU hostage with leverage over gas supplies. Alfred, you're a hair sticking out a dog's asshole, nothing more.
Russia doesn't have to sell gas to Europe. there is no law that says they have to.
So why doesn't europe just buy it somewhere else?
I know cocksuckers like you hate peace and cooperation, Thats why I would have no problem killing you.
BLAM.
Thats my last post to you, asswipe because you are DEAD.
Ya, back to your der'moprjaat job snake-brain.
Ignorant post
Russian Federation has subsidized Ukraine over 230B USD since USSR ended.
That does not include the stealings of gas and other.
The Bear is lose, broke its chain and ready to kill. Ukraine was a prelude. Evil and injustice in the air. America ensured freedom of the seas and fair trade for the free world but is backing down, to be replaced by dictatorships, corruption and violence.
well lol, america insured free trade, via monsanto or what?
i miss something about aliens in that rant
OK, wtf is going on? Natzi's joining NATO in Ukraine, the U.S. mad about Russia helping out with ISIS, Chinese battleships chillin' off the coast of Alaska. Sounds to me like we are about to get our asses handed to us by Russia and China, if you ask me. Was this part of the plan all along, the last decade of NATO poking the bear has not roused it from its slumber, until now. I understand that we have been mucking around in the Middle East for the sole purpose of destabilization, because that is how you insert a governemnt that will give you what you want, that's what we have done to most of South America. So, we finally lure Russia into war, find some obscure reason to be mad at them, continue destabilization of the Middle East and move to all out war on Russia and its ally Chiina? IDK, but its kind of the only way I can seem to make sense of this freaking mess as far as long term goals are concerned. Or maybe we are all really on the same side and everyone is just obsessed with spattering blood and the misery of others. Either way it's disgusting.
OK, wtf is going on? Natzi's joining NATO in Ukraine, the U.S. mad about Russia helping out with ISIS, Chinese battleships chillin' off the coast of Alaska. Sounds to me like we are about to get our asses handed to us by Russia and China, if you ask me. Was this part of the plan all along, the last decade of NATO poking the bear has not roused it from its slumber, until now. I understand that we have been mucking around in the Middle East for the sole purpose of destabilization, because that is how you insert a governemnt that will give you what you want, that's what we have done to most of South America. So, we finally lure Russia into war, find some obscure reason to be mad at them, continue destabilization of the Middle East and move to all out war on Russia and its ally Chiina? IDK, but its kind of the only way I can seem to make sense of this freaking mess as far as long term goals are concerned. Or maybe we are all really on the same side and everyone is just obsessed with spattering blood and the misery of others. Either way it's disgusting.
The head of Austria's opposition Freedom Party has censured the United States and the NATO for sparking the ongoing refugee crisis that has engulfed European countries.
Read more: WHAT REALLY HAPPENED | The History The US Government HOPES You Never Learn! http://whatreallyhappened.com/#ixzz3kzNYJqbN
The head of Austria's opposition Freedom Party has censured the United States and the NATO for sparking the ongoing refugee crisis that has engulfed European countries.
Read more: WHAT REALLY HAPPENED | The History The US Government HOPES You Never Learn! http://whatreallyhappened.com/#ixzz3kzNYJqbN
Oh, it's not the crazed Muslims blowing up each other, that's good to hear.
A White House spokesman said that although the humanitarian crisis caused by political instability in the Middle East is a "tragedy," the US has no plans to resettle more Syrian refugees.
Read more: WHAT REALLY HAPPENED | The History The US Government HOPES You Never Learn! http://whatreallyhappened.com/#ixzz3kzOAlnXi
The fact the Obama administration is leaving known ISIS training camps alone suggests the White House is protecting the terrorist group, according to presidential candidate Donald Trump.
Read more: WHAT REALLY HAPPENED | The History The US Government HOPES You Never Learn! http://whatreallyhappened.com/#ixzz3kzOYf6TB
ISIS leader Abu Bakr Al Baghdadi is a Jewish Mossad Agent
Read more: WHAT REALLY HAPPENED | The History The US Government HOPES You Never Learn! http://whatreallyhappened.com/#ixzz3kzOn9xAL
what "anti-isis" and which "coalition"?
everyone down there does what he has done all those decennials,
turks hurt kurds (actual cizre is a city not in news but there is war in turkey) and support isis, selling it as anti isis,
murica and oropa hurt everyone not hurt by isis and or kurds and or turks,
rest of world has some agents selling weapons to everyone around
Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu on Sunday said he would not allow Israel to be "submerged" by refugees after calls for the Jewish state to take in those fleeing Syria's war.
Read more: WHAT REALLY HAPPENED | The History The US Government HOPES You Never Learn! http://whatreallyhappened.com/#ixzz3kzPbfLLF
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Strange coming from Jews that begged to be taken in , back in the 40's
They are PURE SCUM.
Considering the refugees are mostly Palestinians and none of the major ME Arab countries will take them either, why would Israel? It takes a real dunce to make a point of this fact Alfred.
Russian officials propose bill to grant every citizen one hectare of farm and forest land to use for self-sufficiency
Read more: WHAT REALLY HAPPENED | The History The US Government HOPES You Never Learn! http://whatreallyhappened.com/#ixzz3kzeiRFXt
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Meanwhile in the USA they are fining people who have solar and live off the ''grid''
They fine people for having gardens. and even harvesting rain water from their roofs.
A lot of westerns have forgotten that war with Russia is a war with CSTO allience and maybe China, too.
* Russia – China and CSTO draw Red Line about NATO Despotism
that's why he doesn't worry
Russian officials propose bill to grant every citizen one hectare of farm and forest land to use for self-sufficiency
Read more: WHAT REALLY HAPPENED | The History The US Government HOPES You Never Learn! http://whatreallyhappened.com/#ixzz3kzeiRFXt
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Meanwhile in the USA they are fining people who have solar and live off the ''grid''
They fine people for having gardens. and even harvesting rain water from their roofs.
Russian officials propose bill to grant every citizen one hectare of farm and forest land to use for self-sufficiency
Read more: WHAT REALLY HAPPENED | The History The US Government HOPES You Never Learn! http://whatreallyhappened.com/#ixzz3kzeiRFXt
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Meanwhile in the USA they are fining people who have solar and live off the ''grid''
They fine people for having gardens. and even harvesting rain water from their roofs.
And we are so proud of our brave American press for their investigative digging for the truth. For carrying out their sacred Constitutional role in the face of horrible odds. Just today I watched Walter Cronkit------ Oh, sorry, wrong war.
That war had no kike involvement
it was about the money...
Iranian Jews tell Israel ''Our national identity is not for sale''
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vA7yz2vciGk
And the sources we have here also tell us that 9/11 was committed by a bunch of ragheads based out of caves in Afghanistan ..
[major face palm]
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2013/09/22/fraud-on-the-u-s-supreme-court-b...
Actually, they were caves in NJ ..
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2015/05/04/neo-so-much-more-than-nukes/
The Russians have landed like they have landed in the Ukraine, like they landed in Gloucester Bay ..
https://youtu.be/ybcBhg8rw6w
whatever the situation...it is becoming more obvious that war with USA against iran,russia,china is inevitable.
Open Letter to AlfredNEuman
Dear Mr Neuman. You have now posted 115 posts on this article, each more devoid of any useful information than the last, yet oddly marinated in utter crap. The only kind of people who have the time to post such a gigantic a deluge of utter shite on an article about Russia are fools and shills.
I may be the only person to comment directly on you, but I assure you, thousands of people sense what you do, and why, sat at your desk, wherever you are, trying to twist the fate of the world. And while we are disconnected, I can aussure you we think of you.
disagree
he is most experienced this subject among the posters, especially this day.
you don't like his style, that's it.....and miss the knowledge of man been many places on the ground..
what is your contribution to thread? that you pretend to speak for thousands?
is it important to you? I guess, if you counted 115 posts....
You may count 115 posts, ( with grep ), peppered with vulgarity as style. I think it's something else. Especially when you read them all, on balance. And I'm sure he can speak for himself
Oikanada? Is that your W. Bank settlement name or are you going for that old Zino standby known as Affinity-Fraud?
WTF. Are you Thomas Darcy McGee from G&M? TDM is an paid shill at that zio-prop excuse of a newspaper.
That fucking wanker banned me from G&M, you write just like him.
Alfred been here a while, uses different handles quite a bit. I like his style, He don't like fucking zios and you're sounding very zionic.
strange comprehension
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8EwiuTwGSGg
We salute you Assad! Fuck the ZWO.
Assad is an honory Aryan.
AND FUCK YOU JOHN KERRY!!
So much for General Allen the "ISIS Csar" and his plans for a no fly and refuge zone for the American Empire-Central Bankers cabal foreign fuckheads called al Nusra or ISIL or whatever. The Turks will have to quit going after the Kurds and the Kurds will close off the primary logistics supply route for ISIS, a fifty mile stretch of the Syrian-Turkish border where Allen's safe zone is-was to be located. The Israelis will have to stop their bombing runs as when ever they have felt like it if the Russians send some System 300 missiles to Assad's forces. As the America Central Bankers cabal escalates the war against Assad-Hezbollah-Shia Iraq and of course Iran the Russians will simply harden the opposition. Look for some Ameropire fighter pilot deaths in the interests of western central bankers as the Shia forces and Kurds now begin a final pushback on ISIS.
So much for General Allen the "ISIS Csar" and his plans for a no fly and refuge zone for the American Empire-Central Bankers cabal foreign fuckheads called al Nusra or ISIL or whatever. The Turks will have to quit going after the Kurds and the Kurds will close off the primary logistics supply route for ISIS, a fifty mile stretch of the Syrian-Turkish border where Allen's safe zone is-was to be located. The Israelis will have to stop their bombing runs as when ever they have felt like it if the Russians send some System 300 missiles to Assad's forces. As the America Central Bankers cabal escalates the war against Assad-Hezbollah-Shia Iraq and of course Iran the Russians will simply harden the opposition. Look for some Ameropire fighter pilot deaths in the interests of western central bankers as the Shia forces and Kurds now begin a final pushback on ISIS. All this if Russia indeed is going to get more involved by sending better weapons?
Please note that this entire situation is due to an alleged news story from YNET (Israeli source) and that there has been no confirmation by ANY intelligence service! That once again, the United States asserts to have information / knowledge of another nation's actions / intentions derived from non-govermental / non-intelligence sources! Tail wagging the dog so let the missles fly!
And the winner is "What me worry?", AlfredNeumann, by knockout, several of them, leaving the lying hasbra tool per-dask rolling around on the floor, bloodied and out of his <meager> wits.
Congrats Alfred.