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Refugee Crises At Dangerous Tipping Point As Hungary Deploys Army, Germany Loses Patience
"I'm not happy. I had to leave Syria — I love Syria, but so much killing there."
That’s from 17-year old Mohammed Al-Hamdan who made it across the Hungarian border with Serbia at a railroad crossing near the village of Roszke before it was closed on Tuesday. As NBC reports, “just before Hungarian police closed the railroad crossing, a Syrian family ran down the tracks trying to make it through, the patriarch screaming to his wife and small children, ‘Yallah, yallah!’ — Arabic for ‘Let's go!’” Before closing the "popular" passage, Hungary had reportedly begun hauling migrants on to trains and shipping them straight to the Austrian border. “The situation is that after crossing the border these people have arrived at the collection point in Roszke, where there is no official procedure, people are just being collected. Earlier these people were being taken to the registration points ... this is not happening now, but rather, buses are taking people from the collection point to the Roszke train station according to our information,” a UNHCR spokesman told Reuters.
Of course even for the migrants who were "lucky" enough to be rounded up and shipped to Austria as opposed to being stranded behind Hungary's new migrant-be-gone fence, their fate is far from certain. As The New York Times noted on Monday, Austrian officials have now sent "2,200 soldiers to help reinforce the eastern border."
The rush to get into the Hungary came as the country largely completed a four meter, razor wire fence meant to cut off the flow of refugees and channel them to official registration centers where they can apply for asylum. “If their applications are refused,” BBC says, “they will now be returned to Serbia rather than being given passage through Hungary.”
Government spokesman Zoltan Kovacs says "official and legal ways to come to Hungary and therefore to the European Union remain open.”
“All we ask from all migrants [is] that they should comply with international and European law,” he added.
There’s a certain extent to which Hungary’s frustrations are understandable. For many refugees, the path to the German “promised land” goes through Hungary, and the means the flow of people is daunting.
That said, Kovacs’ comments seem to perhaps overstate the government’s desire to help asylum seekers enter and/or traverse the country legally. New laws that went into effect at midnight now permit police to arrest anyone who attempts to breach the razor wire fence. Damaging the fence is now punishable by imprisonment or deportation and mounted police have been deployed to the border. Here are the images:
Meanwhile, Prime Minister Viktor Orban's rhetoric suggests little tolerance for any meaningful demographic shift in Hungary. "Hungary is a country with a 1,000-year-old Christian culture. We Hungarians don't want the global-sized movement of people to change Hungary," Orban said on Monday. He also told border police that “illegal border crossings will no longer be misdemeanors but felonies punishable with prison terms or bans.” Showing his generous side, Orban did say police should treat the migrants like human beings. Additionally, the declaration of a state of emergency is likely to pave the way for the approval of a large military presence and as AP reports, Orban doesn't appear to have waited on Parliament:
Hungary on Tuesday declared a state of emergency in two of its southeastern counties in response to the migration crisis, a move that paves the way to deploy the army to the border with Serbia to stop the flow of migrants that has been entering the country.
Technically, parliament must still approve the deployment of the military. However, Associated Press reporters at the border have already spotted heavily armed military personnel with vehicles and dogs at the border in recent days.
But anyone sent to Serbia faces the terrifying possibility that they will be denied asylum there as well. Here's Reuters:
Serbia, an impoverished ex-Yugoslav republic years away from joining the EU, says it is readying more temporary accommodation, but warned it would not accept anyone turned back from Hungarian territory.
The United Nations refugee agency, UNHCR, reiterated on Tuesday that it advised against sending refugees back to Serbia. "Safe third country" status implies refugees have a fair chance of being granted asylum and would receive the necessary protections and support.
Rights groups say Serbia meets none of the criteria and is still finding homes for thousands of its own refugees from the collapse of Yugoslavia in the 1990s, the last time Europe confronted displacement of people on such a scale.
“That's no longer our responsibility,” Aleksandar Vulin, the minister in charge of policy on migrants, told the Tanjug state news agency. “They are on Hungarian territory and I expect the Hungarian state to behave accordingly towards them.”
So too, apparently, does Germany, where Vice Chancellor Sigmar Gabriel looks to be reaching the end of his patience with some countries' perceived recalcitrance. "Germany can’t be there as the paymaster in Europe and everybody is around when they need money, but no one participates when responsibility must be taken. If this goes on then that’s the end of the current funding basis."
There was no consensus to be found on Tuesday on a plan to use a quota system proposed by Jeane Claude-Juncker last week to settle some 160,000 refugees - for now, only 40,000 will be relocated. Hungary was one of three countries in opposition. Echoing Gabriel, Germany's Interior Minister Thomas de Maiziere suggested that Berlin may soon be forced to "exert pressure" on countries that refuse to cooperate.
As should be clear from the above, this has the potential to create a very dangerous situation in EU countries who oppose quotas but are pressured by Berline, Paris, and Brussels to comply. Where there are already elements of xenophobia in place, and where those feelings are being amplified and perpetuated by the government, the perception that Germany is forcing an unwanted demographic shift might well serve to fan the flames not only of nationalism but of religious intolerance, especially given the likelihood that those opposed to settling the migrants will be predisposed to stirring up fears of ISIS operatives slipping into Europe disguised as refugees.
And just as we said last week when we documented the construction of the anti-mirgrant fence in Hungary, "it's not clear whether 12 feet of razor wire will be enough to dissuade those who are fleeing from bullets, tanks, barrel bombs, and sword-weilding jihadists, meaning the question really isn't how to keep migrants out, but rather how to handle the situation once migrants get in." On that note, we'll close with the following account from Reuters:
Having spent the night in the open, families with small children sat in fields beneath a new 3.5-metre high fence running almost the length of the EU’s external border with Serbia, halted by a right-wing government that hailed a “new era”.
Others pressed against gates, confused and demanding passage. More still sat on the main highway from Serbia to Hungary. "I will sit here until they open the border. I cannot go back to Syria. Life in Syria is finished," said a Kurd from Syria who gave his name as Bower.
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And trading body parts....
I'm going long wire cutters.
Did Devo co-founder really hold sick, 9-11-themed wedding?http://tinyurl.com/pj225vt
Hungary sure came up with A LOT of razor wire in a big hurry...like they were stockpiling it...installed it mighty fast too...seems like someone "did see this coming"...
Why the fuck would you want to go to Germany? Lordy, their track record with unwanted "non-Germans" isn't very pretty..
one word:
blackswan
Merkel should be swinging from the highest lamp post in the square.
A. Merkel is jewish! She is doing the job for the Synagogue, not for Germany!
http://www.synagoguerising.com/
she is of jewish descent 100%
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angela_Merkel
her parents came from poland to germany in 1930
"In 1977, Angela Kasner married physics student Ulrich Merkel and took his surname"
merkels stasi documents disappeared after ddr collapse
if you look at her photos when she was young, she do not look like a polish nor like a german woman
she is ugly like john kerry, who confessed about his jewish roots somewhere around 2004
Madeline Albright - another hiddeous zino-example of affinity fraud.
interesting enough there is no mention of Jewishness only the fact that her family originated from Poland and that her father was a member of the Hitler Youth. So unless her family was very adept at hiding this aspect and before Hitler came about, I doubt very seriously that she is some kind of zionist spy whose only goal is to destroy Germany.
Now is she compromised as a politician - most likely yes as the Americans seemingly own her ass.
I know it is fun throwing shit around on the intertoobs but lets stick with some simple facts!
rave on
helmut schmidt germanys chansellor from 1974 to 1982
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helmut_Schmidt
"Helmut Schmidt was born in Hamburg in 1918, the first of two sons of two teachers, Ludovica (born Koch) and Gustav Ludwig Schmidt. Schmidt studied at Hamburg Lichtwark School, graduating in 1937. Schmidt's father was the illegitimate son of a German Jewish businessman, although this was kept a family secret for many years. This was confirmed publicly by Helmut Schmidt in 1984, after Valéry Giscard d'Estaing revealed the fact to journalists, apparently with Schmidt's assent. Schmidt himself is a non-practising Lutheran."
"Schmidt was a group leader (Scharführer) in the Hitler Youth organization"
i could tell you about my jewish background as well there is no way you could tell im of jewish descent except my eyebrows
I heard an amusing story that Merkel was Hitler's offspring, artificially inseminated using frozen sperm. If its not true, its still a great story! And the resemblance!
On the way from Munich to Berlin several times the Emergency-Stopa has been activated in a refugee train. Many jumped out from the train and disappeared.
180 Illegals are missing!
http://www.mmnews.de/index.php/politik/53527-dflucht-zug
Too bad they didn't think of that on the way to Auschwitz, etc.
OH MY GOD REALLY....... boxcars had stop thingy's ???
They only worked for one stop.
The last one.
Soon Germany will be in the EU on its own and then Merkel can recreate the GDR in a modern day multicultural utopia failing daily.Who the hell do Germany think they are,No more immigration and no more migration,we need to look after our own.
+100
As Moon of Alabama and other web sites have pointed out - Merkel the zio stooge and Germany are the EU.
They decide to totally F over the Greeks then decide to cancel any stupid EU treaties or agreements.
The Germans need to call elections ASAP and then arrest Merkel and her stooges and newspapers and media calling for open borders.
Millions of invaders rushing the trains. Sickening.
And we always thought the pestilence and vermin would be locusts and rats.
Tyranny does not require uniformity of race or culture, only a common fear and distrust of others that allows Government to be the arbiter of truth and justice. We must all submit on bent knee to the greater power that will defend us from "others".
No more immigration and no more migration,we need to look after our own... After we destroyed and looted all those ME "places" that you are alluding to.
Why can't they all just check into the camps and never check out in Europe and finish the work for us?!!!
Fixed it!
"After we destroyed and looted all those ME places"
"we"?
"After we destroyed and looted all those ME places"
"we"?
You know the "usual suspects" that speak and write in the language you just responded in that have their bank(s) in everyone elses Country with a reserve currency that is now worthless!
Oh no Capt.... "We" just give them the funds to do what they're doing.... We're not responsible for how they spend those funds....Not our fault!
See how that works.
Not our fault!...
Like I said in a post just yesterday on ZH. When a "republic" allows the Attorney General that is the chief law enforcement officer of the Country to "investigate himself" for wrong doing as the "White Chimp" has, you know your days are numbered.
Concur
Ala Roach Motel.
Why not send them to the $6 billion facility that Turkey has? Erdogan not doing his fair share???
this one:
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-hGgNmyLnPc8/Ve29Id-bFSI/AAAAAAAAL8g/vHDJuzvu8m...
Erdogan is helping train and fund ISIS -so let's send all the Syrians to Turkey so they can show him proper gratitude. To be honest I'll agree to a man for man trade for them to come to the US -but for every Syrian we take, they get a warmongering Zio or Zio-"Christian" .
Erdogan built this giganitic palace that he lives in like he is this giant Ottoman king. I bet his house will hold a few thousand of these invaders. The place is giant like Versailles or the big English castle/palace. Like Buckigham Palace or the other big one the Red Shield Windsors own.
Off how the Rothschild kid gets to have his wedding at the royals palace. Shows who owns England.
they are getting "fed-up" after 6 months of this (in the press & accelerated for 1-2 weeks)
welcome to what obama has been inviting/allowing for the last 7 years at our southern border + the previous bozo before him
Oboloa and the zio-State Dept are brining in 280,000 or more Muslims a year to wipe out the White Christians in America.
Ding! Ding! You win, Freddie, Obozo is importing thousands and thousands of Jihadis who he will then arm thru the process they figured out via the 'fast and furious' Mexican gun scam. Then we can look forward to car bombs, mall massacres, random shootings and extra explosions in Starbux.
I cannot understand why the US Armed Forces have not taken this guy and his boss, ValJar to Leavenworth. You would think Soros deserves a visit from Seal Team Six at least.
Are there no Patriots left? I am an old retired vet and even I know what we need to do.
....did you know there was an ongoing investigation into mortgage fraud involving the Clinton gang and other covert agencies using monies from HUD, but it all come to a halt with the destruction of the Alfred P. Murrah building..... I'm sorry what were we talking about again .....
I've never heard of this before, but I don't doubt the possibility of it one bit, especially if it involved the Clintons
OKC bombing, the first event (then the Embassy bombings) that made me think all is not what it seems... And here we are 20 years later!
I still don't have a clue what Heavens Gate or Waco was about, but you can be sure there were multiple objectives.
Come out of retirement?
Really it is not worth it. The people are too zombiefied and will just select another Obama.
Sad. But true.
Take care of yourself so that you can care for your own.
There is no saving this.
"The people are too zombiefied and will just select another Obama."
They don't have much choice. Look at the list of potentials.
So this isn't the Idiocracy where you get handjobs at Starbuck's then?
They don't have to... the hypocrite Christians are doing a far better job and at a faster pace bringing Christianity into the 21st no morals century celebrating their new god which bestows the 501c3 blessing upon them.
I don't think so. We have had larger influxes of immigrants proportional to our population, and despite the discomfort of the additional diversity and potential adverse effects, although today there may be more
of a public cost burden, America absorbs and moves on.
Europe on the other hand seems to lack such resilience. I don't know why, but it's interesting to watch. That continent just appears always brittle to me.
America is the best country in the world to be an immigrant, here if one learns English in a few years people accept them as Americans,In Europe maybe after a hundred years
That's because America and the other colonies of Europe are only poor cultural reflections of their parent state. Lacking in cultural depth, hence survival instinct. Europe has been fighting off waves of barbarians for millenia. My bet is the colonies will be swallowed by the horde without so much as a whimper.
Sad but true. I live in Australia and can only look at the nationalist movements in Europe with envy. This place is a communist hell hole and the common folk don't even know it, let alone organise against it.
"My greatest flaw. I surround myself with idiots."
- Victor von Doom
The only reason they come here is for welfare. Otherwise they recreate the same ghettos they were living in in their home country, with all the gangs, violence, predation, etc. Get rid of immigrant welfare and there would be few to no takers.
'bozo's'
there,,, fixed it.
The problems on the southern border mostly stem from that idiot president in the eighties who started the war on drugs. Reap what you sow.
Coming soon to a town near you....
Told the asshole I work for yesterday that Lafayette La is one of the "process centers"
he's one of those " born again types"..
He must love Bibi. One of those Jonathan Pollard Christians.
Yes the Xtians are all alight with their own goodness. That warm inner feeling works well for the Lexus liberals too, who are high off their own supply then jump into their Lexus and drive back over to Mill Valley where they don't have to deal with the mess they are creating.
Xtians are all alight with their own goodness. That warm inner feeling works well…
I’d like to consider myself a “Xtian”, and I’m insulted to be lumped together with “Lexus Liberals”. I get no warm feeling with the thought of leaders within the USG offensively creating situations where families are torn apart, innocent blood is spilled and hatred towards me and my kind is directed and encouraged.
There is nothing to be gained from a Christian perspective in linking the Christian faith to any act of state, (with the exception of maintaining a distinct separation between the two).
Christianity is at its heart a personal, one on one relationship with what an individual develops with the Christ and no state policy, (s)elected official or other power, including the co-opting of so-called “Christian Leaders” who have been subdued by ME ideologues advocating some malicious interpretation of an otherwise common Revelation to mean Jesus has a special way for Mosaic law keeping folks to obtain a preeminent position in eternity.
Hogwash! The plain teaching is there is no male nor female, jew nor “greek”, slave nor free to the eternity to which we are all heading. I understand I’m certainly in the minority for believing this, but don’t shoot me, I’m just the messenger telling you what it says. I tire of being mistaken for some other kooks out there hiding behind Christ for personal profit and lazy theological thinking.
Jmo.
Well done. Limousine liberals typically are not Christians.
Non-muslims only please. Send the rest to the gulf states, simple as.
Ship the lot. Why populate your homelands with barbarians at all?
"My greatest flaw. I surround myself with idiots."
- Victor von Doom
Hey, Dildo! Do you mean gulf states like Louisiana, Mississppi, and Alabama, with great emphasis on Florida?
They can put some in. Volker ball when winter hits
A close relative of mine is working with a logistics contractor for the DOD. She calmly explained to me yesterday that Germany has been allotted 500,000 undocumented guestworkers (known in Germany as "irregular migrants") per year.
500,00 undocumented worker to do what exactly when the auto plants shut down due to global depression? How many toilets are there in Germany that need to be cleaned?
These are no workers - who in his right mind would hire arabs to do work in Germany? Nobody, only other arabs.
Those are mercenaries for the state, to be deployed at the whim of the oligarchs and politicians. Either against Russia, and/or against that "homegrown terrorists" that seem to be popping up everywhere...
War is coming, and is wanted by the scumbags PTB.
Give them weapons and send them back to fight to take back their country.
Good idea. What weapons will they need to defend against U.S./Israeli/Saudi/Jordanian/French and British airstrikes?
Isn't it absolutely astonishing how many here seem to forget that,,, and the fact that, at the same time we admittedly are funding and arming ISIS just as we are Al CiAduh.
Are they that stupid or are they trolling?
Sorry,,, an AK does't do well against F14's and bombers who are paving the way for the western funded Caliphate.
But an s400 or s500 would do wonders. Hopefully some are in the next few incoming transports.
The "humanitarian" thing is to send them to any of the 163 Muslim countries they desire. If that country does not want to accept them, set up detention camps and house them and sanction those un-humanitarian Muslin nations who reject thier brothers.
Saudi Arabia already has thousands of air-conditioned huts that can be used for thier Muslim kin.
like that's gonna happen any more than Israel will be forced to accept refugees from right next door
Nope,,, they will reap the benefits of the now deserted lands...
Isn't it odd that while the entire Muslim world is screaming of injustice and Islamaphobia, virtually none are willing to take in refugees and allow them to permanently settle in their own countries. Palestinians remain refugees for generations in neighboring Islamic countries, and Muslims are actively murdering each other on religious grounds, yet WE are supposed to extend our hand in generosity to the very people who openly despise us and blame us, rightly or wrongly, for their circumstances.
'the very people who openly despise us and blame us, rightly or wrongly, for their circumstances.'
Rightly.
Not solely. They were sold out by their elites and their ideology, same as us.
Spineless treacherous Western governments are presenting them our countries on a platter. Another case of the utter failure of democracy. As if these same political persona's selling us to bankers, via deficits, was not enough to convince us that our governments are our greatest enemy. Except we were stupid enough to go and vote to put them in to set those deficits, and make the treachery all look legal and binding.
And now they just blithely throw whole countries into chaos via their alleged 'generosity' idiocy, and policy-on-the-run, even though Europe is trying to step back from a banking system implosion.
Makes so much sense!
This is going to get extremely ... well, extreme ... and all the high-talk, by people like David Cameron, to end extremism, and all the western plans to bottle it up and shut it down, are in the initial process of catastrophically failing due to the same dopey policies of the very same hypocritical treacherous politicians, in the exact same governments.
But hey, vote for them again!
They'll fix it the next time, promise!
"rightly or wrongly, for their circumstances."
Now that's good... bombing people out of house, home and country could sorta maybe be the "rightly" part. With all these now empty lands,,, wonder who benefits???
Here's an idea. Stop the f*cking bombing. Maybe they will stay and rebuild,,, but I digress.......
EU businesses want the cheap immigrant labor. "Humanitarianism" has very little to do with this.
The "humanitarian" thing is to send them to any of the 163 Muslim countries they desire
To which "arab" nation(s) still intact would you send them all?...
Saudi Arabia, Dubai, UAE (3 of "163")?... Jordan sort of has a full plate and I don't see any new visas slated for Tel Aviv, Haifa or the largest human prison in existence next to Baghdad Ghaza???...
Pray do tell. Where shall we send them to be exterminated?!!!
Why would those three take refugees from the countries they play a major role in slaughter?
Have you seen the "refugees" at work in southern Italy? The "humanitarian" thing would be to shoot them like the rabid dogs they are.
"My greatest flaw. I surround myself with idiots."
- Victor von Doom
VvD
You missed your PTSD meds. Those flashbacks of your your rape and murder days in Kabul must be coming back!
I take it you haven't seen these...
http://www.infowars.com/migrant-crisis-the-footage-the-media-refuses-to-...
https://themuslimissue.wordpress.com/2015/09/05/video-watch-african-refu...
If these aren't rabid dogs, who the hell are?
"My greatest flaw. I surround myself with idiots."
- Victor von Doom
Vet on PTSD meds + AJ Zionist mouthpiece = I have my answer!
But don't feel too bad VvD... Too many people follow the Genesis radio troll instead of minding Rivero and ZH!!! It's not your fault given the amount of brain damage you and others like you have suffered.
His wasn't the only post. Try again troll - and your insults don't refute the claims in the piece anyway.
Either make a counter argument, preferably backed by supporting documentation or shut the trap. This if Fight Club, not Shit Sling.
"My greatest flaw. I surround myself with idiots."
- Victor von Doom
To my point Vic
http://www.infowars.com/pictures-show-jihadist-militants-entering-europe...
I rest my case!
You don't have a case, and you didn't make a point.
I made comment on the "refugees" in Southern Italy. You questioned my angle. I showed you where I was coming from. You have yet to prove my angle isn't justified.
Showing a different article from one of my sourced documents doesn't debunk the story contained in the original - or the one you posted for that matter. You have yet to comment on my second article posted.
You rest your case on this? Thanks.
"My greatest flaw. I surround myself with idiots."
- Victor von Doom
The "refugees" in Italy of which you speak have embedded ISIS that work for this piece of shit!
Fixed it!!!
Either way we go back to my original statement then. How is it that these people are not to be treated as rabid dogs and put down?
"My greatest flaw. I surround myself with idiots."
- Victor von Doom
You. In which case following your logic, the humanitarian thing would be to put you down.
How so? I'm not marauding across our ancient ancestral homeland of Europe, destroying everything in sight, like a modern day Vandal horde.
Logic, justice or a sense of self-preservation seems to be a rarely understood thing these days.
"My greatest flaw. I surround myself with idiots."
- Victor von Doom
owebomba the immigrant president is pleased. he only wishes they would all move in over here.
Chicken or egg.
Trying to sort cause from reaction takes us down a dark and opaque road.
Trying to sort cause from reaction is easy my friend. USSA imperialist intervention, bombing, and destabilizing of countries all over the ME is the cause...
Operation "Tipping Point" "Mission Accomplished"!...
You've threatened your NATO partners into action to use their people and resources for "fodder" and they won't budge?... So you fill it full of Libyans, Iraqis, Yemenis and Syrians with SAS and U.S. special forces in there midst and tell them that if they don't help you engage in WWIII that will start in either Ukraine or Syria -shit will happen TO THEM!!
That's all this is folks!!!!
Germany had a big mouth when the UK some months ago said they wanted to restrict immigration and now they themselves are shutting the border. The EU is going to dump this problem on Serbia -a non EU country- that had to process hundred of thousands refugees from Croatia, Bosnia and Kosovo during the 90s of whom many still live in deplorable conditions in Serbia. Serbia received little help then and can expect little help now.
Fine. Serbia should dump them back on Greece. Then Greece can ship them back to Turkey. Mission accomplished, problem solved.
Where there's a will...
"My greatest flaw. I surround myself with idiots."
- Victor von Doom
Maybe they should be "dumped" on America. The refugee stream is a result of America's disastrous wars in the ME.
Not true. America is not waging war in the ME. The US government is. Why destroy the common American just because he is ruled by the ZWO?
Blame for the kickoff of these migratory pushes is irrelevant anyway. Look to the long term outcome. Does the West actually want these people inside it's borders regardless of their reason for coming?
I think not.
"My greatest flaw. I surround myself with idiots."
- Victor von Doom
Same with Europe.
Not true. America is not waging war in the ME. The US government is.
Hey Victor I just called the pharmacy and your PTSD meds are ready for pickup!
But don't feel too badly brotha...
The vast majority of sheep in the U.S. agree with you "it's the gubbament's fault" and I had nothing to do with it!...
Another guilt ridden Liberal Collectivist Asshole - and we wonder why the West is in the state it is.
Liberalism is a mental disease.
"My greatest flaw. I surround myself with idiots."
- Victor von Doom
The west is in the state it's in because lazy idiots would rather blame the problems on their government than actually do something about fixing them.
Both I would say. The governments of the West are staffed with traitors serving the banksters, and not enough opposition exists in a co-hesive form to oust them. I'd say you have half the truth of the picture. That's not to let the traitors or enemies of the West off the hook though.
Direct responsibllity for their actions belongs to these people.
Responsibility for putting up with such evil in government is on the shoulders of the people. But most are ignorant, docile sheep now, and those that actually give a damn are too isolated to achieve much.
Which isn't to say that they should give up on the matter, like the sheep.
Rome wasn't built in a day. But it won't be built at all if Capitoline Hill is overrun with barbarians, regardless of their reason for coming.
The West needs to be reclaimed by cultural minded champions of its own peoples. It may be a distant dream, but it is the only one that holds any positive future for any of us.
"My greatest flaw. I surround myself with idiots."
- Victor von Doom
The term liberalism has been high jacked and has nothing to do with leftism. Adam Smith and friends, that is liberalism.
And regaring the wars in the ME: American runs them (along with help from European partners but Europe is just America's bitch). The Iraq war had an approval rating of 80% because you were all so gun-ho after 9/11. A staggering 1.5 million people died as a result of that war -directly and indirectly- and ISIS came forth out of ex-Hussein people that were purged from power.
But hey, my country right or wrong right?
Yes Joe, and the word gay does not denote fags. Just try and use it in everyday conversation though. The word liberal has become forever tainted through common usage.
"My greatest flaw. I surround myself with idiots."
- Victor von Doom
The United States is waging war in the ME. Maybe some Canada too. The rest of America isn't so bloodthirsty. Don't cop out and say it's the government doing it. If U.S. Citizens really didn't support the actions of their government then they would overthrow it, ergo, U.S. Citizens are just as culpable as the government that represents them.
The US government hasn't represented me in decades. My one vote means shit.
Not quite true. I've never heard of any people in history overthrowing their government because they didn't like their foreign policy. People aren't like that. They just don't give a fuck about others enough. It's when they get oppressed to a certain point by their own that they tend to snap. That's not to say that I support this warmongering madness. I don't. But I'm not going to risk life and limb on behalf of barbarians on the other side of the globe either.
You have to push a people pretty damn hard before they give up everything and say fuck it - it's all or nothing.
The ME getting blown to hell just isn't enough for Westerners. However you feel about it, that's the truth here.
"My greatest flaw. I surround myself with idiots."
- Victor von Doom
they should be arresting the politicians and cheap-labor CEOs who enabled this whole fiasco to happen.
Fuck Germany, they're like the US of the EU.
The German are occupied and so is the US
give them all free tickets to Berlin
sieben acht gute Nacht, Mutti !
Putin says ISIS wants Medina, Mecca and Jerusalem.
Now I expect the furure Saudi and Israeli refugees will be heading Stateside and it is fortunate you have those FEMA camps ready built and stocked up. Be alert for jihadi infiltrators, as Pope Francis has warned.
http://novorossia.today/the-head-of-the-dpr-alexandr-zaharchenko-signs-t...
The head of the DPR Alexandr Zaharchenko signs the order of the conduct of election on 18th OctoberIt was reported by the head of the DPR.
‘I am going to sign the order of the election conduct tomorrow’, we will leave (Ukraine) 18th October’, the head of the state reported.
Unfortunately right and wrong decition at same moment...
Unfortunately right and wrong decition at same moment...
+100
Zaharchenko is a real hero. The sooner the DPR leaves the totally corrupt Ukriane, the better.
But there's still a lot of shitty things to do, by the way and they will not leave Ukraine so easy. Mostly because of USA needs in resources and the Wheel Of Infinite Conflict.
Doesn't this whole refugee thing seem a bit contrived? The question is: "who is behind the orchestration of it?".
I am not saying that the refugees are not real and are not hoping for a better life in Germany, or wherever ... but it has been orchestrated to happen now (and not before ... or maybe it was happening before, but not propagandized).
Why?
Doesn't seem contrived. Remember, we've been bombing Syria for what, nine years? The water builds, the dam bursts. 3.2 million displaced Syrians alone. That's a lot of people.
So why then do 70% of these 'refugees' come from somewhere other than Iraq or Syria?
Who was shooting at them in Western Turkey?
Kind of ruins the 'war-torn' narrative a bit.
Nearly 90 percent of these refugees come from nations the U.S. Had illegally invaded.
in agreement here...
The most direct and simple answer to this question is always these two sinister words...globalist banksters.
Only a theory, but I'll put it out there. Yes, these people are primarily coming from countries that the US has bombed. But coming right now, in such waves? That's contrived. I think it might be to cause a political collapse in Europe, possibly as a cover for the coming financial collapse.
They (the banksters) have to come up with some magic trick that will convince the sheeple. They can't very well step up and say, "Yeah it's us. We did it. Suck on it." But the collapse is still coming regardless. So I'd hazard a guess and say this is an emergency cover action for their crimes.
"My greatest flaw. I surround myself with idiots."
- Victor von Doom
whole refugee thing seem a bit contrived?...
It'd be naive to think this is in direct response to the Greece / Germany EU default skirmish earlier this year, but it's pretty telling to see plainly on the map Greece as nothing more than a culvert collecting the flood and channeling them to Merkel.
jmobservation
I have a suggestion:
The number of migrants each country accepts should be proportional to the amount of bombs, shells and rockets that country had used in the MENA region.
I think it's fair.
+100 Joe. I posted a similar comment last week. That does seem the fairest way to deal with the refugees, and it might make the sheeple sit the fuck up and protest their governments involvement in ALL the wars the U.S. has coerced/blackmailed and bribed them into over the last 30 years.
I have a better suggestion:
The number of politicians and banksters each country hangs should be proportional to the amouth of bombs, shells and rockets that country had used in the MENA region.
The "refugees" should be deported regardless. Justice lies in prosecuting the guilty, not the innocent.
I think it's more fair again.
"My greatest flaw. I surround myself with idiots."
- Victor von Doom
One migrant for every pound of ordinance used.
One bankster or politician for every gram used.
"My greatest flaw. I surround myself with idiots"
- Victor von Doom
Can we use napalm on the banksters?
The Saudis aka bankster stooges are using illgeal USA cluster bombs on the Yemeni people right now.
Get to it then rather than expecting others to do it.
Ever seen a full fledged revolution kicked off by the violence of one man? Didn't thinks so. You're coming across as an agent provocateur. That or an idiot. Take your pick
"My greatest flaw. I surround myself with idiots."
- Victor von Doom
They still afraid of ISIS, I guess.
Don't worry, they're already in. Run.
And still comments doubling. The hell, why?
One word "Balkanization"
...and from the No Shit Sherlock file......" Since we know that only NATO is capable of publishing false information on the front page of all the newspapers of its member states, it is very probable that it has organised the present campaign. Besides which, the fact that all migrants are represented as refugees fleeing the war zones, and the insistance about the supposed Syrian origin of these migrants, allows us to suppose that NATO is preparing a public action linked to the war which it is secretly waging against Syria. "
http://www.voltairenet.org/article188623.html
"Those business assholes really know how to take advantage don't they" ......... G. Carlin
The totally predictable outcome of the welfare state utopia. Send them to the socialist paradise of Scandinavia too.
Saw the article on Swedish home prices skyrocketing - this would normally be a factor to limit immigration - but in welfare utopia the government raises taxes on home owners and then uses the money for rent subsidies to immigrants!
Explain to me how an illegal attempt to overthrow nations elected governments and creating rebellions with foreign actors is a welfare state act.
People with no homes.
China Ghost Cities with no people.
Perfect match or what?
No way they can dilute that population.
China govt. will keep them under control easy.
Where's my Nobel prize?
What ever happened to "17-year old Mohammed Al-Hamdan's" mother, sisters, and other family? What are his skills? Is Mohammed Al-Hamdan going to insist on Shsira law where he finally settles?
"What ever happened to "17-year old Mohammed Al-Hamdan's" mother, sisters, and other family?"
Probably killed by freedom bombs.
The only way to stop this inflow of desperate migrants is to stop these absurd wars in the middle east. The allies aka Nato should have one by one walked away along time ago as everybody realized all these invasions were illegal, and went nowhere.. Nobody thought this would happen again no one saw it coming?! Again they all knew that an action creates a reaction with consequences,. My question is: why now this sudden sunami of humans, who is behind and some how i cannot discover an answer to this question? I find this so odd.
Ron Paul was the only peace candidate. The press mocked mocked and marginalized him and the Republican party shut him out.
What is fascinating to see unfold is the flood of Muslims into the 'thousand year old culture of Christianity'. When in fact, church attendance continues to fall in both the EU and United States - and laws founded on the morality of the church are being wiped away by liberal politicians and judges.
The republicans are doing a fine job ignoring the ten commandments as well. 1, they worship money instead. 6, all these illegal wars. 7, plenty of mistresses on both aisles. 8, that's the whole point of the illegal wars through the middle east and Americas.
None of them make good Jews. As for Christians, Jesus said live your neighbour as yourself is one of the most important commandments, so unless they are drone striking themselves, then they make horrible Christians to.
The failures of the west have nothing to do with Islam.
We come in peace. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ogp_Dai691k
Playing the word game... it's Repatriation; not deportation.
Germany sent out the wrong message and now Europe is really screwed.Turkey is taking revenge for not being allowed in the EU.
So what, they do not belong to the European Union, geographically, politically and culturally.
Bomb North Korea!
Seeing the TV footage it is amazing to me the number of migrants talking & texting on cell phones.
Because nothing is officially a crisis unless it's on Facebook and Twitter.
Starving and dying is one thing, but not having cell service and internet is really serious.
They need to consult their Imams as to when and where to meet to get their grenades and AK-47s.
"will be enough to dissuade those who are fleeing from bullets, tanks, barrel bombs, and sword-weilding jihadists"
Such a pathetic narrative to try to impose. That's been going on for over THREE YEARS. It's not new. All of these shitskins are coming now for a very different reason and losers at the Rothschild news service there know that.
"That’s from 17-year old Mohammed Al-Hamdan"
Oh poor little Mohammed. He didnt' du nuffin. What do you want to bet they just did a search and replace on, 'Mike Brown'. I'm sure with enough gibs me dat that he'll grow up to be... no, he'll be on welfare for life. That's BEST case.