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Decades-Long "Megadrought" Looms For Entire US As Lake Powell Runs Dry, NASA Warns

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With the number of people living in the U.S. Southwest and Central Plains, and the volume of water they need, having increased rapidly over recent decades - and, with NASA scientists expecting these trends to continue for years to come - the current severe drought combined with the tapping of the Lake Powell's water at what many consider to be an unsustainable level, has reduced its levels to only about 42% of its capacity.

 

 

Forecasting that there is an 80 percent chance of an extended drought in the area between 2050 and 2099 unless aggressive steps are taken to mitigate the impacts of climate change, the researchers said their results point to a challenging - and remarkably drier - future.

As Reuters reports, scientists from NASA and Cornell and Columbia universities warned earlier this year that the U.S. Southwest and Central Plains regions are likely to be scorched by a decades-long "megadrought" during the second half of this century if climate change continues unabated.

More than 500 feet (150 meters) deep in places and with narrow side canyons, the shoreline of the lake is longer than the entire West Coast of the United States. It extends upstream into Utah from Arizona's Glen Canyon Dam and provides water for Nevada, Arizona and California.

 

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The peak inflow to Lake Powell occurs in mid to late spring, as winter snow melts in the Rockies. But since 2012, snow and rainfall totals have been abnormally low as the region suffered persistent drought.

As the following images show, all around the lake, strikingly pale bands of rock have been exposed by the receding waters...

See more stunning images here...

 

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Fri, 09/18/2015 - 00:31 | 6563860 ShakaZulu
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Move to Vegas.  You can get the same with a 2 car garage for $800 just a few blocks from the Four Seasons.

Thu, 09/17/2015 - 18:08 | 6562550 Skateboarder
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<--- Bad people "in charge" are fucking with the Earth and creating droughts

<--- Ridiculous "conspiracy theorists" believe in artificial drought-makery

Thu, 09/17/2015 - 18:21 | 6562618 Freedom In Your...
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A mix of both would be my best guess.

Biggest problem is those fuck heads in charge make it nearly impossible for the creative problem solvers to implement the solutions that reduce the negative consequences of the natural disasters like drought when they do occur.

There are many proven ways of producing food and creating comfortable living conditions in desert environments. None of them mesh very well with a fascist bureaucratic government controlling everything though.

Thu, 09/17/2015 - 23:36 | 6563749 Oldwood
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In a world where power is best derived from crisis, real solutions are far and few between.

Thu, 09/17/2015 - 19:33 | 6562899 Seer
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Mesopotamia.

Wait!  I thought that humans don't have an effect on the climate!

Thu, 09/17/2015 - 23:38 | 6563754 Oldwood
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Everything leaves a mark....everything.

Thu, 09/17/2015 - 18:09 | 6562552 Handful of Dust
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My friend paid over $80k extra for a "lake front" house with a dock that now sits 1/4 mile from the waters edge due to ongoing, inevitable drought. Mud is what they see every day. Mud is everywhere.  He can't even sell the place since when people see all the mud they walk away.

Thu, 09/17/2015 - 19:35 | 6562904 MSimon
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Well think of all the extra land he got for no extra cost. Plant vegetables.

Thu, 09/17/2015 - 18:08 | 6562553 Gatos Locos
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Now, maybe they will find Jimmy Hoffa's body?

Thu, 09/17/2015 - 18:11 | 6562562 Handful of Dust
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Viking relics. After all, they discovered America ... after the Chinese, of course.

Thu, 09/17/2015 - 19:04 | 6562803 knukles
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I was thinking the very same thing.  Well, not specifically any one group of people, but the record (suppressed in academia and MSM) shows clearly that some "folks" were here long before the stories told us in school.  Would be a fine opportunity to go looking for stuff lost "forever" when they flooded the place long ago.  Maybe even some Egyptian artifacts, runes and the like.

Thu, 09/17/2015 - 20:33 | 6563104 gonetogalt
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Wrong, the Vikings were ahead of the Chinese by 3-4 hundred years. Chinese exploration fleet sailed in 1421. Now the Phoenicians however, were mining copper in the upper penninsula during the bronze age.

Get your shit straight.

Fri, 09/18/2015 - 00:36 | 6563873 Son of Loki
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I agree! My great, great, great Viking ancestors settled here and there in north america way before the Chinese Qu had formed his Qingdom by conquering the five wandering Chinese tribes.

The other half, the so-called "Black Sheep" in the Loki family, moved on through Europe plundering and raping all the way to Beijing where they actually set up shop for awhile. My Dad tells me great, great Grandpa Loki took a liking to those Chinese gals so he settled in the area now-called city of Beijing, near what is now Wan Fu Jing.  As a matter of fact, the word itself, "WanFuJing" spelled backwards in ancient Chinese means 'VikingLoki."

I kid you not.

I suspect next time the Chinese slaves are building a deeper subway thru Beijing out to the 8th loop they will stumble across Grandpa Loki's saber, gold chalice, jewel-bedeckoned gold crown or some such things.

Thu, 09/17/2015 - 19:34 | 6562900 Hulk
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The chinese don't count cause they discovered it by accident!!!

A few reindeer bolted for warming environs and they gave chase whilst the ocean

level was low...

Thu, 09/17/2015 - 19:58 | 6562982 GeezerGeek
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The Chinese Imperial Navy, way back when, built some impressive sailing ships. Now they simply build islands as stepping stones.

Fri, 09/18/2015 - 07:15 | 6564301 Arnold
Thu, 09/17/2015 - 20:34 | 6563110 Adahy
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Many have come to Turtle Island over the millenia, but we were always here.
And we'll be here when everyone leaves too; cleaning up after the partiers.
Frustrating sure, but that's our lot.

Thu, 09/17/2015 - 23:58 | 6563800 Farqued Up
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Be real careful, your casinos will dry up if we white fools disappear.

Fri, 09/18/2015 - 00:42 | 6563882 Adahy
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I hope so.  They are a plague on our culture.  My own tribe built on sacred land; shameful.  All for money.  All temporary, whether they know it or not.

Thu, 09/17/2015 - 18:09 | 6562555 RopeADope
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Don't worry, NIRP will fix it.

Thu, 09/17/2015 - 18:12 | 6562568 Chuck Knoblauch
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Isn't the Hoover Dam supposed to explode soon?

Thu, 09/17/2015 - 18:13 | 6562577 medium giraffe
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Buh bye Vegas.

Thu, 09/17/2015 - 18:16 | 6562587 CunnyFunt
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"... if climate change continues unabated."

I suppose we're fucked then, as the climate has always changed. Unless the planet disintegrates and all the debris drifts away in new orbits, then I doubt we'll have a cease in climate change. The 2nd law of thermodynamics will have the last laugh in any event.

Fri, 09/18/2015 - 10:13 | 6562808 Salsa Verde
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If we spend enough money we can change the weather:  Just ask anybody pushing for Carbon Credits Exchanges.

Thu, 09/17/2015 - 19:38 | 6562918 Seer
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The rate of change is the [early] killer..

Humans will do as ALL species do, overrun and die (off).  It's a race as to whether this happens before the next glacial period.  Anyone taking odds?

Thu, 09/17/2015 - 18:16 | 6562589 TuPhat
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Another bunch of global warming bullshit.  I just watched floods in california on the news yesterday.

Thu, 09/17/2015 - 18:47 | 6562734 Thirtyseven
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Clearly you have little understanding of how the ground table functions, you know, aquifers n' shit.

Thu, 09/17/2015 - 19:29 | 6562887 TuPhat
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Clearly you have just as little understanding of how carbon dioxide in the atmosphere functions, you know Photosynthesis turns CO2 into carbon and oxygen and the cycle repeats over and over.

Fri, 09/18/2015 - 00:52 | 6563908 Flakmeister
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There is a bit more to that your your disingenuousness can hide...

What matters is net flows and the net flow over the past 200 years or so is a a 40% increase and it is due to us...

Other than that you appear to be the same dumb fuck you have always been...

Fri, 09/18/2015 - 11:57 | 6565481 Tallest Skil
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And yet that man-added CO2 has done absolutely nothing to temperatures, absolutely nothing to rain events, absolutely nothing to hurricanes, absolutely nothing to tornadoes, and absolutely nothing except make both summers and winters MILDER.

Never mind the increased crop yields and general expansion of all plant growth.

In short, you're mentally ill and need to seek psychiatric help. You have all the ability in the world to read and comprehend the actual data set before you and you still choose to shill for liars.

Thu, 09/17/2015 - 19:32 | 6562892 Calmyourself
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Is that you Flak with a better vocabulary?

Fri, 09/18/2015 - 00:32 | 6563861 Flakmeister
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Are you serious, a better vocabulary? That schtick never worked here...

6 of the hottest months on record have been this year...

August 2015's warmth makes the year-to-date period (January - August) the warmest such period on record, according to both NOAA and NASA. NOAA said that August 2015 was the sixth month in 2015 to break its monthly temperature record, joining February, March, May, June, and July. August 2015 tied with January 2007 for the third warmest monthly departure from average of any of the 1628 months since records began in January 1880 (the record warmest departures occurred in February 2015 and March 2015). Over the oceans, August 2015 had the warmest departure from average of any month in the historical record (previous record: July 2015.)

Sure, it is an El Nino, but that should be telling you that shit is getting real and time is running out...

Fri, 09/18/2015 - 08:07 | 6564433 Calmyourself
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You keep telling yourself that Flak.  Glad your back your fun to kick around.

Start with this:http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/sen-whitehouse-d-ri-suggests-using-r...

UN is signing onto this budding tyranny, just outlaw any opinions that do not agree with yours, you'll fit right in..

https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/capital-weather-gang/wp/2013/09/23/...

Your theory should explain this but alas it cannot..

Fri, 09/18/2015 - 09:37 | 6564813 Flakmeister
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It is easily explained...

http://www.skepticalscience.com/antarctica-gaining-ice-intermediate.htm

Fresh water from land ice melt combined with increaseed snow from higher humidity along changing wind patterns and you get more sea ice in the Antarctic winter....

Notice that the Antarctic land ice is decreasing at 70 billion tons a year....

An inconvinient truth for you,..

The arctic ain't looking too hot, care to explain that?

http://arctic.atmos.uiuc.edu/cryosphere/IMAGES/current.area.jpg

Oops..

Thu, 09/17/2015 - 18:17 | 6562596 TimmyS
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if you like your US dollars, you can drink your US dollars.

Thu, 09/17/2015 - 18:19 | 6562605 HerrDoktor
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Lake Powell is turning into a...river!!!

Thu, 09/17/2015 - 18:20 | 6562616 Hitlery_4_Dictator
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I wonder how TX will fare....

Thu, 09/17/2015 - 18:40 | 6562699 post turtle saver
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same as always... whiskey will be for drinkin' and water for fightin'...

Thu, 09/17/2015 - 18:28 | 6562654 stilletto
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The Sahara was once green when the earth was hotter which drove monsoons inland to wet it. The West coast drought indicates global cooling setting in. Less heat equals less moisture in atmosphere driving inland. Best we switch to coal fired power  stations to drive up CO2 and hopefully help heat the planet to bring more rainfall! Except CO2 doesnt heat the atmosphere so damn - nothing we can do but let nature rule.

Thu, 09/17/2015 - 18:57 | 6562774 Bunghole
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I look forward to climate change.

Cant wait for Cincinnati to return to a shallow inland sea with trilobites and cephalopods to battle for my resources.

 

Thu, 09/17/2015 - 19:36 | 6562908 ceilidh_trail
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Yeah! I could be owning waterfront property!

Thu, 09/17/2015 - 19:21 | 6562848 Calmyourself
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Stiletto, quit it now, that is scientific, global warming is a religion designed to assuage media assigned guilt and drive redistribution not reach a scientific truth.. Co2 is a lagging indicator of the Suns ebbing and resurgence, you should know that by now.. Do not get between a man and his religion, they would burn you at the stake, now they tie you to a Pius taillpipe...

Thu, 09/17/2015 - 18:30 | 6562658 Montani Semper ...
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El Nino is coming! El Nino is coming!

Thu, 09/17/2015 - 19:08 | 6562817 knukles
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What's the difference between Jesus and Mexicans?
Jesus doesn't have Mexicans tattooed all over him.

Thu, 09/17/2015 - 20:04 | 6563000 GeezerGeek
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Are we suddenly talking about NAMBLA?

Thu, 09/17/2015 - 18:30 | 6562661 Thirtyseven
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Now go look at the Aral sea.

Thu, 09/17/2015 - 18:42 | 6562712 inhibi
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Pretty clear that the rise of the modern man is this earths next great extinction event.

 

I know all you global warming naysayers out there think its a conspiracy or something. But when you are around environmental data all the time, its absolutely disgustingly obvious that we are slowly turning the earth into a un-diverse ball of greenhouse gases.

Couple of interesting facts:

When Columbus first came to the Americas, the sailors noted that all they had to do to catch fish was stick their hands in the sea. It was literally teeming with life.

A lobster diver I know said that back in the 60's, his record lobster weighed 70lbs. Now his record is 4lbs.

Ash trees used to cover europe from one end of the continent to the other,until the English crown decided they needed to stockpile arrows for upcoming wars. Even at that time (medieval ages) they managed to so decimate the ash tree population that ash trees are now a rare find in most of Europe.

 

The mass extinction of variety of species directly caused by humans has been going on for a long time. Why is it so hard to believe that with record population levels, factories, industrial output, cars, etc. that none of that has an affect on our planet? If you can SEE the difference in global weather, water levels, in your lifetime, you know things are fucked up. Most of what happens today in a few years used to take thousands upon thousands of years to take place.

Thu, 09/17/2015 - 19:03 | 6562796 mygameon
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Been to southern iowa lately?

Been cool here several summers in a row. Plenty of water, rain, vegetation, and wildlife. Hell we mount special bumpers on the front of our pick ups because we hit so many deer.

When I travel to a city, no doubt resources are scarce.

I am tired of New Yorkers telling that I am running out of clean water and fresh air because they are.

How many nights this month have you sleep under the stars?

Get it. I don't give a fuck all about people who live in over developed areas and then you try to force your pseudo science up my ass.

Thu, 09/17/2015 - 19:26 | 6562877 Horseless Headsman
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This summer was like a fucking jungle here in SE Missour.

Thu, 09/17/2015 - 19:43 | 6562934 mygameon
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Lived in the Ozarks 1998-2008. Loved it but missed real winters.

Boot Hill of Missouri is a nice area. Nice people. Enjoyed a few blind drunks in The Cape G.

Fri, 09/18/2015 - 00:37 | 6563875 cheech_wizard
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Far too much rain this summer in central Missouri as well. A month ago one storm that came through which I was watching on radar showed an incredible amount of lightning strikes. One hit a tree not 100 feet from the house. Blew the bark right off the tree. Walked the property to find at least three more in the same condition.

But that's Misery for you.

Thu, 09/17/2015 - 19:08 | 6562820 thesoothsayer
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Having lived through and experienced the things you type of, I agree 100%, Mankind is destroying the planet in every which way possible.  The environment is used as a profit center for humans since the white man has set out exploiting the planet and replaced the indians.  Given that, I am not sure we are causing climate change. The climate has always been all over the place.  Much more so then today.  The only way the other creatures on the planet survive is only if something destroys 95% of current humans on the planet, outside of that, the future of mankind is bleak as we will destroy everything else around us and counsume it for profit.

Thu, 09/17/2015 - 19:41 | 6562929 MSimon
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If only the humans destroyed for loss. Loss is much easier to create. Every thing would be lost.

 

But I agree. Destroying for profit is really evil.

Fri, 09/18/2015 - 19:42 | 6567459 mkkby
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Blaming while people for exploiting the planet??? 

There are fucking 6 billion + asians, south americans and africans.  Whites are a minority and shrinking in numbers.  All the others need to do something about thier birth rates -- pronto.  Breeding like cock roaches.

Thu, 09/17/2015 - 20:13 | 6563020 GeezerGeek
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Some of the American Indian tribes did a good job of raping the environment, too. Not to mention some African tribes overgrazing the grassy plains. All those "noble savages" were less noble and more savage than you seem to think.

And as a suggestion, I think that mankind (I'm immune to PC Principal's shaming) would be better off if all the environmental whackos (and not everyone who cares for the environment is a whacko) would voluntarily turn themselves into fertilizer. That would reduce the US population significantly.

Thu, 09/17/2015 - 20:48 | 6563170 Adahy
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Uninformed drivel to fit your narrative.  Surely hand-digging gardens with a stick is just as harmful as an army of deisel powered tillers right?  How about low-intensity fires to rejuvinate the land and stave off larger, catastrophic fires?  That was bad too right?
You just don't understand land management because all you want to do is 'conquer' and 'tame' the land, not live with it.  Keep battling nature though.  Let me know how that works out.

Common sense is dead apparently.

You can 'savagely' fuck yourself by the way you genetic dead-end.

Thu, 09/17/2015 - 19:12 | 6562824 Bunghole
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Ash trees.  Good luck finding a live one in the midwest US.

I cut 30 dead fuckers out of my yard over the past 4 years.

Emerald Ash Borer.

Thu, 09/17/2015 - 19:44 | 6562940 ceilidh_trail
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Yup. I saw one of those bugs about 5 years ago= got away before I could squish it. Now, my 70ft ash tree is barely alive. This is what happens when you let nature run things...

Thu, 09/17/2015 - 20:15 | 6563036 GeezerGeek
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Clearly those borers are driven by the spirit of white privilege, destroying the environment just so they can thrive.

Thu, 09/17/2015 - 20:21 | 6563057 Almost Solvent
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No, Chink Cargo Ships brought them over.

Thu, 09/17/2015 - 21:12 | 6563272 ForTheWorld
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What you're describing is not "natural". In nature, fires come through and kill animals, birds, insects and trees, and then the trees that are left have a chance to keep growing with a smaller population of damaging insects. The newly created carbon is assimilated into the topsoil helping provide better moisture retention, which helps animals, birds, insects and trees.

Humans preventing forest fires (remember, fire is cleansing) creates these sorts of problems. Back burning is the half way point between doing nothing, and allowing natural processes to complete.

Thu, 09/17/2015 - 20:16 | 6563039 Calmyourself
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Northeast of Mpls, I have twenty....

Thu, 09/17/2015 - 20:30 | 6563084 samsara
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Globalization.

Emerald Ash Borer - This alien invader is from northern China and Korea.

Zebra Mussels - This species was originally native to the lakes of southern Russia.

Starling - From England. In 1890 when an eccentric drug manufacturer named Eugene Schieffelin released about 100
starlings in central park.

Thu, 09/17/2015 - 21:00 | 6563228 HerrDoktor
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I have one, but it's on Chemo

Thu, 09/17/2015 - 19:22 | 6562865 Horseless Headsman
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I agree that mankind has had an effect on the climate, principally from agriculture for the last 4000 years. Don't really know how much that is though. I'm of the opinion that the next climate problem we have will be a mini ice age, and that all the bed wetting and hand wringing from the AGW crowd is irrelevant. Check the sunspot record an compare it to other minima in the last 1000 years.

Thu, 09/17/2015 - 21:01 | 6563236 DaveyJones
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check the ice cores and the rate of change

Thu, 09/17/2015 - 19:34 | 6562901 Calmyourself
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That is you isn't it Flak......

 

I recognize your writing...

8x the number of trees you should keep up on the news..

 

http://boingboing.net/2015/09/03/study-world-has-8x-the-number.html

Thu, 09/17/2015 - 20:24 | 6563063 Almost Solvent
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Tell her Montreal sucks and she'll tell you how she only studied there a few years on her quest around the globe . . .

Fri, 09/18/2015 - 00:41 | 6563881 Flakmeister
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Too funny...

Did my undergrad work there...

Great town, but there are better places to live...

Thu, 09/17/2015 - 20:40 | 6563132 Adahy
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Don't bust their bubble.  Anything that says rampant, mismanaged, selfish resource use is bad can not be heard, period.  Everyone is waiting on Star Trek to happen to make it all better before it's too late.
Tech isn't going to save you, only returning to living as a human being and not a robot will.

Infinite growth on a finite planet, what could possibly go wrong?

Fri, 09/18/2015 - 11:58 | 6565487 Tallest Skil
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And yet that man-added CO2 has done absolutely nothing to temperatures, absolutely nothing to rain events, absolutely nothing to hurricanes, absolutely nothing to tornadoes, and absolutely nothing except make both summers and winters MILDER.

Never mind the increased crop yields and general expansion of all plant growth.

In short, you're mentally ill and need to seek psychiatric help. You have all the ability in the world to read and comprehend the actual data set before you and you still choose to shill for liars.

Wed, 09/23/2015 - 01:21 | 6582748 GoldIsMoney
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Statistics do not show in any kind more extrems weather events. They must have been started according to the "prophets of man mad earth warning". The told us that, we won't have winters any more in Europe, they told us that the glaciers would have been gone till now. Now they tell us it will take another 30 years to get rid of all the glaciers in Europe. They tell us always,that they are right and other are wrong, without any solid proof. The only goal is suppression in the name of "climate hysterics". Earth laugs at our arrogance, and will run along thei ellipses and the day will come that we gat a bit mor far away from our heating and it will get cold. ice -cold I honestly wish to that time it will freeze to death every supporter for men made climate warming. As you know that can't happen....

Thu, 09/17/2015 - 18:47 | 6562738 viator
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Guess NASA never heard of the PDO

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pacific_decadal_oscillation

McCabe et al.   showed that the PDO along with the AMO strongly influence multidecadal droughts pattern in the United States, drought frequency is enhanced over much of the Northern United States during the positive PDO phase and over the Southwest United States during the negative PDO phase in both cases if the PDO is associated with a positive AMO.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pacific_decadal_oscillation#/media/File:PD...

 

 

Thu, 09/17/2015 - 21:39 | 6563357 Paveway IV
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So then we're in the first few years of a maybe 25-year PDO negative phase? People on Lake Mead may want to invest in rock climbing gear so they can get to their boats. On the other hand, you have a once-in-a-lifetime chance to scoop up land around the lake for cheap over the next decade or two. Once the PDO goes positive, you'll be a Lake Mead bajillion-aire. 

Thu, 09/17/2015 - 18:50 | 6562754 cannonfodder
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Climate change has been happening since the earth formed.  I swear; if the Al Gores of the world today had been around 50,000 years ago, they would have been trying to preserve the melting ice sheets that covered most of the northern hemisphere.

Fri, 09/18/2015 - 03:02 | 6564066 GoldIsMoney
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They can't handle it differently. They are all statists. Eveything should be as always and especially they should be ruling. That's the base line, they want to rule and they have the means of oppression in their hands. And most stupid country inhabitants do not want to abolish them but get kinlike.

That's the truth, everything else is just propaganda.

Thu, 09/17/2015 - 18:52 | 6562758 Hyjinx
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Conflating the "climate change" with a future drought, eh?  Pretty weak.  People need to use less water in that region, however.

Thu, 09/17/2015 - 18:52 | 6562759 AngrySparky
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So now we know where to put all that water when the polar ice caps melt which was supposed to have happened by now anyways according to the AGW alarmists.

Thu, 09/17/2015 - 20:35 | 6563052 Calmyourself
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 What the hell, 35 year high Antarctic ice this shit was supposed to be gone, someone get me Gore, Gore where the hell is Gore???? Ahh coming Mr. Soros, just releasing my chakra..

 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/capital-weather-gang/wp/2013/09/23/...

Fri, 09/18/2015 - 00:38 | 6563877 Flakmeister
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Sea Ice don't mean shit...

 

Antarctica land ice is vanishing at at rate of 70 billion tons a year...

And the rate is accelerating...

http://dx.doi.org/10.1126/science.1228102

Fri, 09/18/2015 - 06:36 | 6564243 BidnessMan
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So when will my home in Atlanta be beachfront property? Need to change my Zillow listing.....

Fri, 09/18/2015 - 08:10 | 6564450 Calmyourself
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BS, the glaciers move faster when they get heavier, then they calve into the ocean.  ying about glacier movement is below you flak..

Oh noes, more change...

http://www.ocean.washington.edu/story/Antarctic+Sea+Surface+Temperature+...

Sat, 09/19/2015 - 01:45 | 6568332 MEAN BUSINESS
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THE LEGEND HAD PASSED DOWN FOR GENERATIONS. Far across the Western Sea, where the steamliners could not fly, lay a wilderness land hiding seven cities of gold. I dared the crossing on one of the stout ships that followed the trade route to Poseidon, a tough port city. I worked there for a while on the steamliners that served the alchemy mines, then eventually set out into the Redrock Desert. The stones were sculpted into unearthly monuments, and the country grew cold as I traveled north in search of the most famous City of Gold: Cíbola. Its name had sounded in my dreams since childhood.

A man can lose his past, in a country like this
Wandering aimless
Parched and nameless
A man could lose his way, in a country like this
Canyons and cactus
Endless and trackless

Searching through a grim eternity
Sculptured by a prehistoric sea

Seven Cities of Gold
Stories that fired my imagination
Seven Cities of Gold
A splendid mirage in this desolation
Seven Cities of Gold
Glowing in my dreams, like hallucinations
Glitter in the sun like a revelation
Distant as a comet or a constellation

A man can lose himself, in a country like this
Rewrite the story
Recapture the glory
A man could lose his life, in a country like this
Sunblind and friendless
Frozen and endless

The nights grow longer, the farther I go
Wake to aching cold, and a deep Sahara of snow

That gleam in the distance could be heaven’s gate
A long-awaited treasure at the end of my cruel fate

Thu, 09/17/2015 - 18:55 | 6562770 nmewn
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Anyone notice the obvious, inescapable truth in those pictures?

The-Reservoir-Is-Surrounded-By-A-Fucking-Desert!

Thu, 09/17/2015 - 19:13 | 6562835 Bunghole
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They need to cover all that water with black rubber balls.

 

Fri, 09/18/2015 - 00:49 | 6563898 cheech_wizard
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I saw that as well. What struck me as odd was why the color black? Certainly white makes more sense due to heat absorption. I figured someone had all these black rubber balls laying about with a friend in government... More than willing to change my belief on this if someone wants to put forth the proper scientific explanation. Are they going for UV absorption with the color black?

 

Thu, 09/17/2015 - 19:21 | 6562862 viahj
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no shit.  the past 100-150 years have been unusually wet in the plains in recent geological history and the US took advantage of this in creating the world's "bread basket".  of course things would eventually swing back the other way.  it will be rough with the population explosion of the past 100 years and the strain on the aquifers for farming but, such is life on this planet.  constant change is guaranteed. 

if you believe the hype, carbon credits can fix this as it has nothing to do with the sun, the earth's orbit and oscillation and systemic variations.

Thu, 09/17/2015 - 20:43 | 6563144 Calmyourself
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Why is media coverage so slanted  toward global cimate change? Why their paid of course..

 

http://wattsupwiththat.com/2015/09/15/this-is-why-media-coverage-of-clim...

Thu, 09/17/2015 - 21:06 | 6563253 nmewn
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Took me a few minutes but this is the type of batshit crazy nonsense we're up against, all the catch phrases, all emphatic certainty of...SCIENCE!...lol:

"It is sad that with humanity facing catastrophic climate disruption as part of an existential threat that there are still people willing to attack Mike Mann, one of the real heroes of climate science, outrageous lies. But one must admire the well-funded denier campaign, carried forward by the likes of Rupert Murdoch and his "False News" network, for the campaign's persistence in the face of massive evidence, its success in confusing much of the public, and creating a propioganda [sic] triumph equivalent to that of creationism in keeping Medieval nonsense embedded in the brains of many Americans. Unhappily the "triumph" may prove doom for many of our descendents [sic]. Mike Mann is admired by all real climate scientists, even those who may have same disagreements with him (there is no certainty in science, unlike in the world of denial propogandists [sic]) -- and I know many of the leading players and follow the field closely. The best one can say of this silly collection of comments from hacks and has-beens, mixed with quotes-out-of-context, is that it is NOT a disgrace to the profession of its perpetrators, nor to their pimps.- Population Bombster, Paul Ehrlich

How does one even respond when the opponent destroys his own argument and thesis? I e doing guess you just let them continue doing so...lol.

Because, "there is no certainty in science" let's change the world!!! ;-) 

Thu, 09/17/2015 - 18:56 | 6562771 divedivedive
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We live high in the Sierra Madres and we pray for a nice sunny day. We have so much rain that we feel like we are frogs. I wish we could send these people who need it some water.

Thu, 09/17/2015 - 19:17 | 6562849 Clycntct
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Sierra Madres? Calf or Wyoming or northern Mexico or?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sierra_Madre

Thu, 09/17/2015 - 20:44 | 6563150 Calmyourself
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Enjoyed the last two Fred!!  The travelogue was really enjoyable!!  Hope the dogs were not traumatized.

Thu, 09/17/2015 - 18:59 | 6562782 skeelos
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We're going to need a smaller boat.

Thu, 09/17/2015 - 19:01 | 6562789 leeteam
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Typical Governmental Agency analysis.  "Lake Powell Runs Dry, NASA warns" They warn us after it has happened!!!

You idiots, you're supposed to send out a warning before it happens! ...and we give you millions of our taxes for this?

Oh, by the way, I forecast it has rained yeaterday.

Thu, 09/17/2015 - 20:29 | 6563081 Seer
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Pretty sure that there's been warnings.  Tend to get muffled by all the special interest groups looking to promote things like "development" in the deserts.  $$ supresses such undesireable information.  Only when shit is staring us in the face will we begin to take notice: and then we'll run around pointing fingers at everyone else.

Thu, 09/17/2015 - 19:03 | 6562795 thesoothsayer
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Lake Powell was never a lake to begin with. Nature is bringing back what always was.  Man should have left the land and rivers the way they were.  The climate has changed for billions of years, with man here and not here. Tough crap to those who live there and the government.  Deal with it.

Thu, 09/17/2015 - 19:05 | 6562806 nnnnnn
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jew-nestlé sucked out all the water and will sell it later for  4$ the bottle to you

 

 

from wikipedia:

"The Nestle family tree began with three brothers (thus the three young birds in the nest being fed by their mother on the family coat of arms) from Mindersbach called Hans, Heinrich and Samuel Nestlin"  " 1495"!!!

"Hans, the eldest, was born in 1520 and had a son with the same name, who later became mayor of Nagold"

 "Before Nestlé turned 20 in 1836, he had completed a four-year apprenticeship with J. E. Stein, an owner of a pharmacy"

 

pfffffff

Thu, 09/17/2015 - 19:50 | 6562959 MSimon
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Don't you just hate being outsmarted by jews? Well not you. Just the rests of the dumb people on the earth. You just let it happen.

 

But you know who you have to watch out for? The Chinese. They are the Jews of the Orient. And there are 1.4 billion of them. Funny thing though. They don't look Jewish.

 

Thu, 09/17/2015 - 20:26 | 6563071 GeezerGeek
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Overseas Chinese have been a key part of many economies in the regions adjoining China. Places like Vietnam and the Phillipines have had significant Chinese influence in their economies. Their success often led to resentment on the part of the less ambitious locals.

Thu, 09/17/2015 - 21:22 | 6563294 nnnnnn
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outsmarted by jews?  i am a jew  

my familiys history is full of being kicked out and fleeing or simply migrating across europe

 

the chinese are under communism. communism is an ideology of slavery created by jews. idielogies do not work except they are based on corruption.

the amount of people doesnt matter - the body can be as heavy as possible, the size of the head stays the same

china is in an artificial condition and if needed, it will be destroyed/overthrown from the inside

china also have a lot of minorities  (uyghur tibet)  you can fund them with money and weapons and give them a political movement

the purpose of china after soviet collapse was cheap work labour, so usa didnt reformate china into a "democratic country", instead they it became the country for global cooperations, taking advantage of not only cheap production costs but also laws

the money given to china is usd      the real worth of usd is close to 0, because its empty fiat paper

chinas military cant keep up with us-military  +usa owns 7000 nuclear warheads

 

china as a threat is a myth

 

and they are not jew-like, even if they try to copy it some times ( by the way, koreans do it too)

 

the idea of jews is to be a minority inside of a majority, religion can be used as segregation but is not necessery, because the jew-thing is more a blood-thing  

jews often intermarry local population and assimilate (opposit of muslims) but some of them keep true identety hidden (like me)

at the same time jews study hard and marry usually smart and successful people and take over major positions of a country

next step is to buy up media, because media changes the voting behavour and way of thinking

media and education system corrupts the children and brings up a new generation of idiots, so you can do with them what ever you want to

jews own the money system, the politics, the media, the educaton system, and cooperations directly or indirectly

 

jews are a threat

Fri, 09/18/2015 - 00:19 | 6563840 ShakaZulu
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My news for the jews.  You want China?  You can have it.  That and the rest of this planet too.  You're welcome.  God has already provided enough for me.

Thu, 09/17/2015 - 19:13 | 6562832 rosiescenario
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Based on the above, we'll probably have the wettest winter on record this year fueled by a super cycle el nino and the problem will be flooding and mudslides out here in CA.

Fri, 09/18/2015 - 07:35 | 6564353 Arnold
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Thanks for all the down wind particulate coalescing airborne moisture into rain.

 

We can smell the smoke in Pennsyltucky.

Thu, 09/17/2015 - 19:15 | 6562842 Sanity Bear
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May as well take the water from Mexico - by force, if need be - to supply the Mexicans here.

 

This is a big reason why you don't want other countries' migrants - resources are not infinite and the number of resources per person drops when you add more people. What's sustainable with the people we got is not necessarily sustainable with the people we got plus tens of millions of squatting foreigners.

Thu, 09/17/2015 - 19:20 | 6562859 divedivedive
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You must be a 'native' american.

Thu, 09/17/2015 - 20:01 | 6562994 Sanity Bear
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We stole this land fair and square.

Thu, 09/17/2015 - 20:33 | 6563103 GeezerGeek
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History is filled with massive migrations/conquests. How many times were the British Isles overrun? Angles, Saxons, Vikings and later the Normans, wave after wave. Then there were the Assyrians and Persians and Greeks and Goths and Vandals and Huns and Mongols and...well, anyone familiar with history knows it is neverending.

Thu, 09/17/2015 - 20:57 | 6563210 Adahy
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It's been done in the past so it's OK?

I don't think you'd like it if your country was being overrun by foreign invaders outright.
Be glad the Central Americans aren't bringing armies, bio-weapons, and cultural destruction.
They are using the soft gloves of demographics for the reconquista, so you get off easy.

Thu, 09/17/2015 - 21:04 | 6563243 Faeriedust
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Which is why when faced with invasion, you shoot first and cry later.  Cozying up to mass immigration is a sure way to become another footnote in history.

Notice that one reason we still have Hellenes in Athens and Lakonia is that Athens and Sparta FOUGHT the Persians.  Charlemagne FOUGHT the  Moors.  The Rus under Alexander Nevsky FOUGHT the Mongols.  The Austrians FOUGHT the Turks.  Arthur FOUGHT the Saxons.  Because of this we have nations today known as Hellas/Greece, Russia, Austria, and Scotland.  Without them the entirety of Europe would be Islamic today, nobody would ever have heard of the Britons, you and I would speak Turkish and write in Arabic.

 

Thu, 09/17/2015 - 22:15 | 6563496 Sanity Bear
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duh, so being even slightly informed about history is more than enough reason to NEVER LET IT HAPPEN TO YOU

Thu, 09/17/2015 - 21:23 | 6563296 Abbie Normal
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Isn't it the wish of every immigrant to close the gate behind them?

Thu, 09/17/2015 - 19:25 | 6562876 world_debt_slave
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time to dustoff the glacier moving plan

Thu, 09/17/2015 - 19:43 | 6562938 Armed Resistance
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This drought has been "engineered" by the government for the very purpose of taxing and controlling you to fix the very problem they created.  It's called "Geo-engineering" and "Solar Radiation Management" in the science journals and on the pattents they hold, but it's chemtrails to the common man.

It's real and it's all by design.  Control the water, you control the food.  Control the food, you control the people.  

Spread the news and help end this bullshit!  If you're not a "truther", you must be a..... liar?

http://www.geoengineeringwatch.org

Thu, 09/17/2015 - 20:43 | 6563147 gonetogalt
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Bet the idiots who downvoted this didn't check the link....

Thu, 09/17/2015 - 20:58 | 6563206 Calmyourself
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AWACS do not have tanks to spray anything you IDIOTS!!  Its condensation just like civilian planes make same damn thing.  I suppose my airplane mechanic brother is loading up the tanks on 737's with nano-alum-terminator particles that ALL the elites happen to be immune from??  GROW UP!  has spraying been done during combat (orange), damn right but across the US indiscriminately, get a clue..

Thu, 09/17/2015 - 21:49 | 6563402 coast
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19 muslims living in a cave brought down the twin towers too. Vaccines are healthy for ya too...the stock market is not manipulated either...and Iraq did have weapons of mass destruction.  And tyhe mission IS accomplished.. FLouride in the water is good for ya too...And obama is the best president ever. Arent you missing sports or CNN right now? 

Weather manipulation is scientifically very easy, all you have to have is the money to do it. Evergreen aviation, in Oregon, is a big sprayer of chemtrails. Evergreen is a government contrated delivery airline that travels the world with many planes. Thats just one of many. It is easy to do, the thing you have to decide, is WOULD THEY DO IT?  Not CAN they do it....Cause they can.

Thu, 09/17/2015 - 19:49 | 6562954 q99x2
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2050 to 2099 will be mighty cold and the El Nino will bring much rain to CA this winter.

Thu, 09/17/2015 - 20:45 | 6563152 silverer
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Forecast: Cold, with floods and landslides.  What's a Californian to do?

Thu, 09/17/2015 - 20:01 | 6562991 mijev
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I think those are the same photos that prove the Russians have military forces on the ground in Syria.

Thu, 09/17/2015 - 20:17 | 6563040 per-dask
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Draught caused by the Russians manipulating the weather.

Thu, 09/17/2015 - 20:44 | 6563149 silverer
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I heard it comes from peeing in toilets instead of behind the bushes.

Thu, 09/17/2015 - 20:18 | 6563044 me or you
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There will be not US by 2050.

Thu, 09/17/2015 - 20:48 | 6563169 lasvegaspersona
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Crees que si??

Thu, 09/17/2015 - 21:10 | 6563265 me or you
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Estoy muy seguro que si.

Fri, 09/18/2015 - 00:39 | 6563878 IridiumRebel
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Dime mas!

Fri, 09/18/2015 - 07:42 | 6564366 Arnold
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Allah Snackbar!

Thu, 09/17/2015 - 20:53 | 6563193 farmerbraun
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Well there will be states but a lot less united. This could be a very good thing.

Thu, 09/17/2015 - 20:20 | 6563053 directaction
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There's a reason Indians didn't permanently live in the deserts now called Las Vegas and Phoenix

Fri, 09/18/2015 - 00:37 | 6563876 tarabel
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Nobody to buy their trinkets.

Thu, 09/17/2015 - 20:38 | 6563129 docinthehouse
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Everyone who believes we insignificant humans can manipulate the climate for better or worse is COMPLETELY IDIOTIC.

Just like the asses that pretend to think that manipulation of an economy provides for a greater good.

Utter hubris.  Narcissism that rivals Obama's! Take a selfie stick and shove it up your mind!

This manipulation is completely designed to improve the financial advantage of the few priviledged in power.

This planet was here long before us and will be here long after we are extinct. 

It just needs one good geophysical upheaval to eliminate all this bullshit.

In truth, we are no more important to climate change than the ants.  Maybe even less so.

 

Thu, 09/17/2015 - 20:45 | 6563155 gonetogalt
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Methinks you're one of the afrorementioned idiots...

Thu, 09/17/2015 - 20:49 | 6563173 Calmyourself
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Actually termites are incredibly important in methane, a much stronger greenhouse gas.  Solution kill all termites, thats a joke, calm down..

http://www.iloveco2.com/2009/04/termites-emit-ten-times-more-co2-than.html

Thu, 09/17/2015 - 20:38 | 6563130 docinthehouse
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Everyone who believes we insignificant humans can manipulate the climate for better or worse is COMPLETELY IDIOTIC.

Just like the asses that pretend to think that manipulation of an economy provides for a greater good.

Utter hubris.  Narcissism that rivals Obama's! Take a selfie stick and shove it up your mind!

This manipulation is completely designed to improve the financial advantage of the few priviledged in power.

This planet was here long before us and will be here long after we are extinct. 

It just needs one good geophysical upheaval to eliminate all this bullshit.

In truth, we are no more important to climate change than the ants.  Maybe even less so.

 

Thu, 09/17/2015 - 20:46 | 6563159 gonetogalt
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Don't change the subject...

Fri, 09/18/2015 - 20:05 | 6567528 mkkby
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He doesn't even make an argument.  He's just angry, and god damn it - the earth has been here a long time. 

Thu, 09/17/2015 - 20:54 | 6563202 Dark Daze
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And so you don't think that 1.05 Billion cars and untold numbers of trucks, trains and other forms using internal combustion engines qualifies as manipulation? Of course it is.

Thu, 09/17/2015 - 21:56 | 6563414 dexter_morgan
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yet which puts more greenhouse gases in to the atmosphere - those or a large volcanic eruption?

Thu, 09/17/2015 - 22:20 | 6563510 Baby Eating Dingo22
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or a forest fire?

Or Kuwaits oil wells?

Fri, 09/18/2015 - 00:16 | 6563835 ForTheWorld
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How many internal combustion engines are currently running vs. how many volcanos are currently erupting?

Thu, 09/17/2015 - 21:06 | 6563256 Adahy
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Whatyoutalkingboutwillis?

We've changed the face of the entire planet.  Virtually nothing is unchanged.
Now, I agree that the planet will be fine no matter what.  Better or worse is irrelevant to the Earth.
But as for us....that's a different story; or maybe a play.
One of the great self-destructive tragedies.

Thu, 09/17/2015 - 22:18 | 6563503 Baby Eating Dingo22
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The earth is a living thing and we  can and have had an impact on it. Amazon rain forest has been decimated. Millions of acres paved over. Mountains have been sheared. Rivers have been run dry. Skies have been polluted. Islands of garbage. Oceans irradiated

Do this to any living thing and see if it's not impacted

Thu, 09/17/2015 - 20:46 | 6563162 lasvegaspersona
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My brothers in the Midwest have offered to sell me Lake Michigan water for just a buck a gallon....so...no problem right?

Thu, 09/17/2015 - 20:48 | 6563171 pocomotion
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I'm scared.

Thu, 09/17/2015 - 20:50 | 6563179 Bryan
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I just went out back and sprayed my hose up into the air, willy nilly, in defiance of calls for a mega-drought.  Take that.

Thu, 09/17/2015 - 20:58 | 6563207 Monetas
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So, it's no longer global warming .... it´s no longer manmade climate change .... it's no longer controlling climate change .... it's now:  urgent measures on a grand scale to mitigate the EFFECTS of climate change .... that sounds like water rationing ?

Thu, 09/17/2015 - 20:58 | 6563215 Rabbit rancher
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The weather now as man made as plastic

US drought monitor   http://droughtmonitor.unl.edu/

Thu, 09/17/2015 - 21:07 | 6563229 Goldilocks
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"Beware the bearers of false gifts and their broken promises.
Much pain, but still time. Believe there is good out there.
We oppose deception. Conduit closing. 0x07" 

Thu, 09/17/2015 - 21:02 | 6563238 Monetas
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More teflon, brushless toilets using stored urine then just a hint of scented water for the final rinse ?

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