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Oregon Community College Shooter Asked Victims To "State Their Religion" Before Executing Them

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UpdateDetails are trickling in about the latest mass shooting in the US and at least some reports indicate that the tragedy might have been tied to religion.

Here’s a bit of color from The Oregonian:

The shooter at Umpqua Community College on Thursday asked people to state their religion and then started firing, one student said.

 

Kortney Moore, an 18-year-old, told the News Review she was sitting in her writing class when a bullet blasted through the window. She saw her teacher shot in the head then noticed that the shooter was in the classroom.

 

Moore said the shooter told people to get on the ground. He then asked people to stand up and state their religion but started firing anywhere. She was on the ground next to people who'd been shot.

And here's USA Today:

One student, Kortney Moore, 18, told News Review-Today that she was in her writing class in Snyder Hall when a single shot came through a window.

 

Moore said she saw her teacher get shot in the head, apparently after the gunman came into the classroom. At that point, Moore told the newspaper, the shooter ordered everyone to get on the ground. The shooter then asked people to stand up and state their religion and then started firing, Moore said..

 

A witness at the scene in Roseburg said the male shooter was shot by police and was acting alone, according The Register-Guard  of Eugene. The report could not be immediately confirmed.

Finally, here's The New York Times:

A 20-year-old man went on a shooting rampage at a community college in Roseburg, Ore., on Thursday, killing multiple victims and injuring at least 20. Officials said the gunman died after an exchange of gunfire with the police.

Accounts of how many people were dead varied, with officials in the office of the Oregon attorney general, Ellen F. Rosenblum, putting the number at 13.

 

“We are just heartbroken here in Oregon that an act of this magnitude has occurred in our state,” Ms. Rosenblum told MSNBC. She cautioned that the situation was still developing.

 

A student, Brady Winder, 23, who moved to Roseburg from Portland three weeks ago, said he was in a room in Snyder Hall adjacent to where at least one shooting took place.

 

“I heard at least nine shots,” he said.

 

“There’s a door connecting our classroom to that classroom, and my teacher was going to knock on the door,” Mr. Winder said. “But she called out, `Is everybody O.K.?’ and then we heard a bunch more shots. We all froze for about half a second.”

 

“We heard people screaming next door,” he said. “And then everybody took off. People were hopping over desks, knocking things over.”

The tragedy is the latest in a string of violence that most recently included the murder of a Virgina TV reporter and cameraman on air and which just months ago saw nine people killed at an African American church in Chareleston, South Carolina. 
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Update: the shooter has been killed following a firefight with sheriff deputies:

 

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Moments ago, following a lull in reports of US mass killings, the newswires lit up with reports of the latest "active shooter" incident this time on the campus of Umpqua Community College in Oregon, where according to KATU 2 News, 14 people were killed and at least 20 injured in what is still a developing situation.

The Oregonian reports:

A shooter has been reported at Umpqua Community College, according to the Douglas County Fire District's Twitter account. It's unclear how many wounded or if the shooting is still ongoing at the Roseburg campus.  Sgt. Dwes Hutson, a Douglas County Sheriff's Office spokesman, says officers responded around 10:40 a.m. to reports of a shooting at the College. Huston could not confirm if anyone was injured.

The LA Times adds that the injured include a woman who was shot in the chest, said Chris Boice, a Douglas County commissioner. The shooting began within the last 30 minutes at Umpqua Community College. 

The good news: the shooter is "down and in custody," Boice said.


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Thu, 10/01/2015 - 15:09 | 6617194 El Vaquero
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I rarely find it tense meeting people in the woods.  They're typically either granlola munching "free spirits" on a hike or they share similar interests to me when it comes to the outdoors.  That being said, I'm always armed in one way or another.  In the woods, yes, there are bears, and also, even though the norm around here is that you can walk up to a guy in the woods with a rifle slung on his shoulder is that it'll be a nice conversation, it's that one time that things aren't like the norm that you've gotta worry about.  Cops rarely get there fast enough when you're in town.  When you're in the woods, it should be understood that if something does go wrong, you are on your own. 

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 20:50 | 6618758 CheapBastard
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Ditto. The only time I don't cc is when I'm hiking in Canada but even there I always have some sort of protection ... just in case. I have a friend whose brother was murdered in Colorado a while back; shot in the chest woods while hunting elk. They never found his killer.

 

I haven't gone hunting for a long time but when I did we always stuck in pairs. I understand why those forest rangers are armed with .357 revolvers and also travel in pairs.

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 15:12 | 6617206 Scooby Dooby Doo
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Urban is the worst. About a month ago Scooby was driving home from coffee run 5:15am -ish. Little punk jumps out from behind guard rail at a stop sign and tries to stop Scooby's car. Oh really. So Scooby drives around quickly and since I got away Mr. Travon decides to send 5 my way. 3 hit. Scooby circles around the block to slice the fucker in half with front bumper.

No where to be found.

If you carry, always carry. Scooby's mistake.

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 15:16 | 6617231 Chump
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"So Scooby drives around quickly and..."

Well there's yer problem right there.  Dude brought a gun to a car fight and you let him live to tell the tale.

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 15:34 | 6617304 Scooby Dooby Doo
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The weapon was concealed. If it was visible I would have backed up, the engine block is the safest obstruction.

I didn't know he was carrying until the lead hit the car and I was about 50-60ft away from little Travon when he shot.

if 3:00 - 9:00 --> reposition.

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 15:37 | 6617370 El Vaquero
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I don't know about a direct hit, but when a bullet ricochets off of your door, it is fucking LOUD!

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 15:56 | 6617403 Scooby Dooby Doo
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2 bounced. One still in the car frame around the rear seat, that was the quite one.

I'm pretty sure the one lodged into the frame is a ballistic match to a recent round of shooting sprees here in town(7) in very close proximity to my event. I know who my shooter is but LE was a fucking prick that morning to me.

Fuck 'em.

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 15:56 | 6617483 El Vaquero
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I had one bounce off my door once.  I didn't know what the fuck happened and for a bit and thought that there had been an explosion or something, until I saw the nice little furrough in the door, probably a foot to the left from where my leg had been.  IMO, the cab of the truck with the windows up kept all of the sound inside, and it wouldn't have been so bad if the windows had been down.  The next morning, I realized that, given the downward angle, nobody was trying to shoot me, I just happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time.  It was probably some dumbshit gangbanger a mile away shooting his gat off in the air in the middle of town. 

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 16:27 | 6617659 Scooby Dooby Doo
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Welcome to Obamerica. Stay safe Mr Penguin.

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 15:22 | 6617271 Captain Benny
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In all my years of carrying, I've only been disarmed once and it happened to be one of the two times I really needed it.... being approached at a drive-up ATM by a crazy mofo late at night.  The only other time I needed it was interrupting a violent assault while police were on their way.  That day, my gun ensured that everyone went home alive.  I don't understand why so many idiotic anti-gun yuppies don't get that bad shit happens and that guns can ensure people walk away from incidents LIVING when they'd otherwise be dead from being violently assaulted.

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 15:43 | 6617404 lincolnsteffens
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I get it. People never hear about people's lives being saved while carrying or an armed citizen to the rescue. This is a deliberate one sided reporting for mind control.

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 16:13 | 6617549 A Nanny Moose
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Shoot, shovel, and shut-up. Aside from that, if you chase someone from your porch at night by racking your shotgun, do you bother calling the cops? If so, do you even mention your weapon?

 

I am not sure I buy into obfuscation and lies by The State and its propaganda arm (MSM), rather than simply under-reporting of the incidents. I think even the FBI recognizes this discrepency, in their reporting of defensive gun use.

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 18:15 | 6618109 PTR
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I don't understand why so many idiotic anti-gun yuppies don't get that bad shit happens and that guns can ensure people walk away from incidents LIVING when they'd otherwise be dead from being violently assaulted.

 

Cause guns are bad!  Violence is bad!  People kill people using guns!  

People in Chicago are so base in their views, forming it solely on emotional reactions, seemingly void of any rational thought.  

 

Then again, we've been one+ generation without exposure to firearms, so it's been all abstract and newspaper headlines, not someone taking someone to the range and explaining proper handling and respect for firearms.

 

God bless the rest of the state for checking the City on conceal carry.

 

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 15:22 | 6617272 Captain Benny
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Thu, 10/01/2015 - 15:34 | 6617351 Questan1913
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Very wise decision.

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 15:52 | 6617420 A Nanny Moose
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Aside from the drug manufacturing in the National Parks (READ: "Pewblik Lands"), most people I encounter in the woods are busy listening to Katy Perry or the latest self-help podcast on their iThingy. Completely oblivious to their surroundings.

The only guns I've encountered are deer hunters, pointing their rifles at me, momentarily...musta been mistaken identity. I advised them of the 20 peope coming down the trail behind me, thanked them for their own personal gun control, and contiued on my way.

Even still, I agree with your idea.

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 20:11 | 6618585 TAALR Swift
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"I am packing openly now, and will seek a concealed carry permit soon." - Jack Burton

While carrying your sidearm, you may consider wearing the lapel Pin of the US flag upside down, to convey your sense of trouble/crisis that your country is experiencing, and why it makes sense to be careful by carrying a firearm.

To those Americans who customarily carry a handgun (open or concealed), I would recommend that they also carry some First Aid items in their urban day-pack.  Just in case they or someone near them suddenly needs it, because of tragic and senseless events like this.  Not that I have to tell you this, Jack, but for those people who travel long distances by car, it makes total sense to have a 3-day BOB in the trunk.  Youtube has plenty of examples of this.

By the same token, this is no worse than what millions of people around the world are experiencing on a daily or regular basis -- if we are to think clearly and keep things in perspective.

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 21:50 | 6618988 astitchintime
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I remember the time when all you had to fear from being in the great outdoors was a bear or other 'wildlife'.  Rather ironic isn't it that 'wildlife' now includes humans?

Fri, 10/02/2015 - 06:28 | 6619636 Refuse-Resist
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Urban areas are infested with dangerous predators.

You'd be a fool to be there unarmed.

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 15:06 | 6617180 Fukushima Fricassee
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Beat me to it. No shit.

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 15:29 | 6617319 lincolnsteffens
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  1. Most unusual that they say perp. is in custody. Almost all of them suicide themselves. Maybe this perp. wasn't a mind controlled psy ops set up.
Thu, 10/01/2015 - 16:04 | 6617518 A Nanny Moose
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Maybe the got the wrong guy, and the perp is still at large?

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 15:35 | 6617359 Praetorian Guard
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Right you are.

Now is this the same person:

 

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:OZGEjT1ilSUJ:https:...

 

 

Come join us for free at www.gunsgrubandgold.com everyone is welcome!!!!

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 17:00 | 6617793 still kicking
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what the fuck did I just read, are the kids today that disconnected from reality?  

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 19:21 | 6618400 El Vaquero
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It looked like something that google had cached from 4chan.  I think that your WTF was in appropriate. 

Fri, 10/02/2015 - 11:32 | 6621017 still kicking
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why would that be innappropriate?  Even if it wasn't him I mean there are real people thinking like that?  These kids are messed up.

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 15:37 | 6617371 robertsgt40
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I smell another orchestrated event. Wonder how long it will take before the official narrative unravels? Think Sandy Hook

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 15:42 | 6617396 HeHateMe
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It is time to have meaningful national discussion about common sense gun-free-zone reform laws and no longer be afraid of extremist special interest groups.

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 15:42 | 6617398 HeHateMe
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It is time to have meaningful national discussion about common sense gun-free-zone reform laws and no longer be afraid of extremist special interest groups.

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 16:09 | 6617541 FireBrander
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Mass shootings never happen at police stations, shooting ranges, and gun shows...very odd because there are TONS-O-GUNS at those events...hmmm.

If "lone gunmen" are smart enough to choose a killing field where the victims won't shoot back, then they're smart enough to NOT pick a killing field where everyone is armed...mandatory concealed carry would be an interesting experiment...

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 17:09 | 6617848 BennyBoy
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Which murderous prescription SSRI was he on?

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 15:36 | 6617334 wizteknet
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too gfxe had to delete

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 16:05 | 6617519 FireBrander
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Of the people that were killed, how many were carrying a gun?

I'll go out on the limb here...

1. The only person with a gun was the shooter, and the cop that killed him after he killed 15.

2. The shooter was on a prescription(s) with serious "side effects".

3. The "Let's ban all guns" crowd will be all over the TV.

 

I will support a "war on guns"...AFTER...we win the war on "Drugs", "Terror", "Drunk Driving", "Texting While Driving"...etc.

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 14:31 | 6616959 Magnix
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R.I.P. Pray for their families' comfort.

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 14:42 | 6617034 Joe Trader
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Pray for the victims' souls too..

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 14:46 | 6617063 Ignatius
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And finally, pray for the rest of us to survive the onslaught of opportunistic politicians and pundits working their slimey agendas.

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 15:19 | 6617247 ejmoosa
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Pray that those that deny the rest of us the right to defend ourselves never get another night of peaceful sleep.

 

 

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 14:44 | 6617045 semperfi
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I pray that the families go out and kill the motherfucker who did it.

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 14:53 | 6617103 tarsubil
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The blood lust you exhibit is related to that which caused this tragedy.

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 15:22 | 6617248 Fukushima Fricassee
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Anti 2nd amendment politicons caused this shit as much as anyone. "Exhibit" A mother fucker

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 15:40 | 6617379 Handful of Dust
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I hope Oregon does not have the death penalty. It's so cruel.

 

 

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 16:03 | 6617511 A Nanny Moose
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That is simply 100+ years of uninterrupted progressivism, which also brought us central banking, income taxes, "education," wymenz votes, trust busters, drug wars, prohibition, and the welfare state. The solution to progressive cluster fucks? Moar progressivism.

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 16:12 | 6617568 FireBrander
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"The blood lust you exhibit is related to that which caused this tragedy."

BULLSHIT.

I'd bet good money:

1. Untreated Mental Illness on the part of the shooter.

2. Mental Illness "treated" with psychotic, homicide inducing, suicide thought provoking, drugs.

No one in their right-ming does something like this...which is why "right-minded" people show carry a gun.

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 14:31 | 6616969 _ConanTheLibert...
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"following a lull in reports of US mass killings"

LOL

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 14:32 | 6616970 JustObserving
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Obama will shed crocodile tears at this shooting and then go back to droning women and children and wedding parties as usual.

At least 250,000 killed by the Nobel Prize Winner in Syria alone, along with creating over 4 million refugees.

Forward

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 15:06 | 6617178 nuubee
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Don't be silly, nobody in America cares what happens in Oregon, unless it's Oregonians embarassing themselves.

 

/I grew up there, I know.

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 15:32 | 6617336 upWising
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Douglas County (where this all happened), as well as all of the area referred to as "Eastern Oregon," is NOT Portland, or Salem, or Ashland.  It is mentally-spiritually-politically (and physically in many cases) much closer to Nevada or Idaho than to Lake Oswego or Eugene.

When a child is born in Oregon, the doctor slaps the child on the ass and whispers into the child's ear "No Sales Tax, No Self-Serve Gas.  Welcome to Oregon."  Beyond that, Oregon is far from a granola-craft beer monotone.

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 15:40 | 6617387 wizteknet
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Come on man don't bring crafted beer into the conversation, dude?!

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 15:41 | 6617394 XitSam
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No self-serve gasoline? Do the gas attendents have a powerful union in Oregon?

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 16:13 | 6617579 FixItAgainTony
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Not unless illegals have put together a Local #86.

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 14:31 | 6616971 youngman
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Gun Free Zone...but pot is legal today

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 14:33 | 6616987 Ataxic Press
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Yeah - let's blame the stoners.

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 14:44 | 6617050 techpreist
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I was on UT Arlington's campus the other day, and noticed that there's a debate on a new policy to permit concealed carry on campus.

Given how many of these shootings happen at universities, I figure this should be obvious. You must need a PHD in LGBTWTF Studies to be 'educated' enough to think otherwise.

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 14:47 | 6617073 JohnG
Thu, 10/01/2015 - 15:11 | 6617203 Dig Deeper1
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Beware of isolated, random events that are spun by the MSM as every-day occurances.

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 14:50 | 6617092 negative rates
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That's cool cause my coke dealer just split town with my money and pot is the next best thing.

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 15:46 | 6617406 wizteknet
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Gotta do whatcha got to do, eh. Hate Kush heads! Oh why are they messing with me, but I look like a walking zombie... syndrome

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 14:32 | 6616977 semperfi
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Q:  what do you call a classroom where nobody is armed?

A:  a target-rich environment

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 14:57 | 6617119 vq1
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Q: what do you call a classroom where a bunch of moody, hormonal teens are armed?

A: a place I dont want to be

 

Although I get your point. When I was young I went to school and felt safe but those days long gone. 

 

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 15:08 | 6617190 Scooby Doo
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Years ago, kids brought guns to school to learn safety.  Long time ago, that only we oldsters will remember.  Brought guns to school on the school bus. 

Were kids less hormonal then than they are now?  

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 15:24 | 6617270 Depression is Coming
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Yes they were less hormonal...look at all the crap that is pumped into our food today (not an excuse). Not only are kids more hormonal today, they are on all sorts of pharmaceuticals. Combine that with the fact that every kid is the most special person in the world and they deserve everything.. I'm surprised we don't have more kids shooting up schools.

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 15:54 | 6617469 vq1
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both good points

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 17:51 | 6618029 RopeADope
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The dissonance caused by being told they are the most special person in the world and reality taking a dump all over them is probably the leading cause. I agree that those other reasons likely play a statistically significant role.

Fri, 10/02/2015 - 13:14 | 6621532 MayIMommaDogFac...
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No SSRI or anti-psychotic epidemic back then....So yeah, they may actually be "more hormonal"

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 16:44 | 6617737 Benjamin123
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When i was a kid nobody shoot up the school because shooting the school was not a thing. Nobody had even heard of the concept.

People are meme carriers. They form their personality by imitating what they see, they almost never get original ideas but carry other's ideas, combined in new ways and perhaps sligthly mutated.

 

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 17:50 | 6618027 FireBrander
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THe Hollywood elite will cry out, for a while, for "gun control"; then get back to work making "shows" packed with guns killing people...

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 21:43 | 6618964 Jstanley011
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Murder is a "meme" of homo sapien sapiens as deeply as you care to dig.

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 14:32 | 6616979 eurogold
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What a country !

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 14:44 | 6617053 Syrin
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How is this the fault of the country?   Why not blame the hemisphere or solar system?   What a fuck tard.

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 14:48 | 6617078 pods
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Blame serotonin.

pods

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 15:09 | 6617198 Scooby Doo
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Rather, blame the lack of serotonin.  

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 15:12 | 6617212 pods
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Please do explain.

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 15:57 | 6617449 wizteknet
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Miss my serotonin uptake, but it will be fine I quit drinking today people! Everything gets better from here! Wish me luck buying a sports car! AND NEW STRAWBERRY OR BLOND

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 15:27 | 6617303 Joe A
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The lack of it. If you have plenty of serotonin you wont do this. Unless of course that serotonin is SSRI induced.

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 16:30 | 6617364 pods
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See, you fell for the question I propopsed to Scooby.

Can you tell me, within a certain confidence limits, what your level of serotonin should be?  Not blood levels or metabolites, but actual in the brain serotonin.

You can't, because it cannot be measured.  Nor can anyone other than guess what your levels should be.

It was merely theorized because in some depressed patients whose blood levels of serotonin were lower than others that this caused the depression.  

Wham, the low-serotonin causes depression myth was born.

So fucked up it isn't even funny.  

pods

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 17:17 | 6617886 Scooby Dooby Doo
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Lot's of females on the SSRI's how come no shooters are female?

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 17:27 | 6617925 OneHorseCarriage
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Guns are heavy?


Thu, 10/01/2015 - 17:58 | 6618065 techpreist
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They bang students instead:

http://www.inquisitr.com/2398070/utah-dance-teacher-arrested-after-being...

Seriously though, these happen constantly and never make the news.

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 19:15 | 6618388 Scooby Doo
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That was a trick question, Pods.  :-)

Honestly though, I had never questioned the validity of the "lack of seratonin causes depression" theory.  Never had a reason to doubt it.  

Why do you doubt it?  Any research to say it is not correct or it just sounds like BS to you.  (I'm not arguing with you.  Just wondering how you came to that conclusion. My area of expertise is in accounting, not medicine)

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 14:32 | 6616980 ASACJon
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I wonder if the shooter will turn out to be a 'reactionary, anti-immigrant, anti-Muslim, anti-New World Order supporter of Donald Trump.'

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 14:41 | 6617028 TongueStun
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Like the FeinMannBergSteinsWiztes in the media would ever do that......

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 14:54 | 6617097 Eyeroller
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I wonder if the shooter will turn out to be a 'reactionary, anti-immigrant, anti-Muslim, anti-New World Order supporter of Donald Trump.'

If that is the case, the MSM will report it immediately and repeat it all day every day for weeks.

However, if the first name of the shooter is Tariq, we'll get the "This isn't Islam" mantra.

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 15:04 | 6617162 duo
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You forgot Confederate flag loving

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 20:50 | 6618764 Government need...
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And right-wing conservative.

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 14:32 | 6616985 vq1
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<- fed up with this shit

<- used to this shit now

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 14:49 | 6617081 ejmoosa
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The shit I am fed up with is that we still keep people from being able to defend themselves legally.

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 15:37 | 6617374 Questan1913
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Just defend yourself illegally.

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 14:34 | 6616993 Mr. Schmilkies
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Sad.  Probably warning signs that were ignored, again.

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 14:38 | 6617014 Son of Loki
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"Classmates say he was a loner."

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 14:41 | 6617031 vq1
Thu, 10/01/2015 - 15:49 | 6617436 ejmoosa
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The first warning sign was:

"THIS IS A GUN FREE CAMPUS"

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 14:34 | 6616995 knuppel
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It wasn't a black man because killing 15 people bra, that's WORK.

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 14:36 | 6617000 Lost in translation
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Looks like OR is about to get MOAR civilian disarmament.

For "officer safety," of course.

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 14:36 | 6617001 Dr. Engali
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Wonder what kind of medication we won't hear about this time.

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 14:41 | 6617030 pods
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SSRIs.

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 14:36 | 6617003 lunaticfringe
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I wouldn't dream of sending my son or daughter anywhere without a gun. Irrespective of our stupid gun laws. That's a fact.

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 14:40 | 6617027 semperfi
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All gun "laws" outside the Bill of Rights are illegal - unconstitutional.  Hey, the constitution wasn't amended, right?

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 14:44 | 6617051 pods
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Even that should not be possible.

It cannot take away that which was not granted in the first place.

Another reason why the BOR sucks ass.  Conflated what the purpose of the Con was.  It was a structure for the general government, nothing about the rights of the people.

Amending was for granting powers to the government not done at the adopting of the con.

You cannot amend away a right.

Well, in theory.  They do what they please now.

pods

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 15:04 | 6617170 lunaticfringe
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In the Constitution it was phased "God given rights" so that it would be clear to any future government gun grabbers-read men- that our rights were not given nor taken away according to the whims of men.

If you want to send your chldren or yourselves out into the world unarmed- you may do so. But please don't infringe on my right to stop some asshole from killing my daughter or her saving yours.

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 15:20 | 6617256 pods
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Hey I'm with you. Hell I think even felons should not be harassed for carrying a weapon.  That is merely another thought crime.

Do you give up your natural right to self defense just because you are convicted in a court for something?

I just giggle when people use the BOR like a shield, when it actually set the stage for what is currently happening.

Even more ironic, of all people Hamilton wrote against adopting the BOR and what he wrote is exactly what happened.

One of the last Federalist papers (84):

"I go further, and affirm that bills of rights, in the sense and to the extent in which they are contended for, are not only unnecessary in the proposed Constitution, but would even be dangerous. They would contain various exceptions to powers not granted; and, on this very account, would afford a colorable pretext to claim more than were granted. For why declare that things shall not be done which there is no power to do? Why, for instance, should it be said that the liberty of the press shall not be restrained, when no power is given by which restrictions may be imposed?"

http://thomas.loc.gov/home/histdox/fed_84.html

Certainly an intriguing argument to say the least.  They did try and cover it with the 9th and 10th amendments. That of course didn't work too well.

pods

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 15:56 | 6617482 lunaticfringe
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I don't know ten Americans that know what the Federalist Papers are and who wrote them- much less actually read them. Certainly that numbskull in the white house "our Constitutional scholar" would claim to have done so- yet he also clains to have attended Columbia yet not one student remembers him being there.

 

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 16:49 | 6617639 Benjamin123
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God is a superstition and if real does not appear interested in our welfare. Your political beliefs are based on voodoo supertitions and then you are shocked when it doesnt turn out right. But go ahead and mock the Obamanoids high on "hope" and assorted ethereal bullshit.

On the other hand a completely rational atheist, scientific worldview leads to nihilism: Life has no purpose or guidelines.

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 14:43 | 6617044 vq1
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cant blame you. But thats kind of a sad state of affairs. If everyone is armed do we even need police anymore? Why not just spend all that state and fed money on training the popula... oh yea, wait what am i saying....

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 14:37 | 6617007 Agent P
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Cowardly fucks!  Just go off yourself in the woods.  No need to take a bunch of innocent people with you.

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 14:42 | 6617036 cowdiddly
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^^^^^^^

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 16:34 | 6617696 Deathrips
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At least be productive tax strike and open fire when they come.

 

RIPS

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 15:03 | 6617148 Skateboarder
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The Umpqua river and national forest next door are serene. Very sad this happened there of all places.

Natural beauty/serenity/peace aint no match for bigPharm drugs.

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 16:00 | 6617501 lunaticfringe
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You can't yell the mental illness out of someone. All you can do is offer the business end of whatever sidearm you have prepared yourself with.

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 14:37 | 6617008 Falling Down
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One must wonder what SSRI cocktail this wunderkind was/is on.

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 14:40 | 6617019 ACjourneyman
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I live 1/2 a mile from there, area is in lockdown. I heard 15 dead 20 injured and shooter was girl.

 

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 14:45 | 6617061 vq1
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stay safe. And that would be a first... well maybe not a first but i havent heard of it. I guess that would be one step towards gender equality. 

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 14:52 | 6617100 55 men
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I have been on this campus before, and it would be by far the easiest to escape from the police, at least for a short period of time...on the edge of this campus is a huge drop off down to a river, along with the monster trees that border the property, but maybe this shooter just had a death wish

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 17:07 | 6617837 ZH FNG
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Fox Live Feed just said shooter was male.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TNlX8paL9oY

 

 

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 14:39 | 6617020 mastersnark
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The news definitely needs to keep hyping these things up so we can encourage more SSRI users to act on their urges and get famous.

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 14:40 | 6617023 undertow1141
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It will be a muslim. How else can the oligarcs whip up the proles. East Asia terrorist killed 15 at a peaceful community college. Not that thats what i think happened but if'in I was a betting man.

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 14:43 | 6617041 Handful of Dust
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... or a Russian.

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 14:58 | 6617123 Cosmicserpent
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Lots of Russian immigrants in Oregon. But nothing beats the homegrown, batshit white crazies.

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 15:41 | 6617391 Handful of Dust
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I was kidding. I meant they would try to pin it on a Russian.

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 21:45 | 6618970 Jstanley011
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Probably a Christopher Hitchens fanboi.

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 14:47 | 6617071 vq1
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yea or just do the same cycle of pro-gun, anti-gun until they get bored and move onto something a celeBRATy did or said. 

Fri, 10/02/2015 - 01:33 | 6619434 JLee2027
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Chris Harper Mercer was an atheist

Fri, 10/02/2015 - 06:35 | 6619639 Refuse-Resist
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No. It was another Amish kid. Don't make the Amish kids angry.

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 14:40 | 6617025 e_goldstein
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So, 35 people forgot to take their scissors to school today?

Arts and crafts should be mandatory.

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 14:42 | 6617038 Handful of Dust
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I know; if only one person had a concealed and was man/woman enough to use it many of these people might be alive.

 

Frigg'n sick!

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 15:26 | 6617297 HoserF16
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< If you think this Really Happened

< If you think this is another Staged event

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 14:42 | 6617032 madcows
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i'm guessing media will immediately label it a white republican gun toter, and later bury the retraction on page 12 when it's discovered he's muslim or black or both.

either way, lots of kids dead b/c they went to school that day.  what a shame.

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 14:55 | 6617113 donkeyhaute
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too early to identify this as real or 'active shooter drill' false flag.  
i hope it's the latter and no one was actually harmed.

in any event - it will be used to stoke more division, anger, bickering and most importantly DISTRACTION for the people.  when we are wasting time bickering over this event - we are not coming together and focusing on the psychopaths behind the levers of power.

watch how many pages of comments this event ellicits.

TPTB know exactly how to pull our strings. 

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 14:42 | 6617035 bbq on whitehou...
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10-15 seems like a high number for a single lone individual. Even the highly trained NYC police cant hit the target they are aiming at without a team.

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 14:51 | 6617064 hedgeless_horseman
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Apples and oranges.

One is a gunfight, the other a slaughterhouse.

It is much harder to get the hit, and stop the bad guy, when he is shooting back at you.

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 14:46 | 6617068 donkeyhaute
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must have attended the adam lanza marksmanship school.

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 14:50 | 6617089 vq1
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Police Fire 84 Shots At Man And Miss 83 Times

http://news.yahoo.com/police-fire-84-shots-man-233124390.html

 

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 14:50 | 6617090 In.Sip.ient
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Use rifle instead of pistol, and your

aim improves dramatically...

 

Use shotgun instead of rifle and the

casualty rate "improves" again...

 

 

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 14:43 | 6617039 moneybots
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Was he on an SSRI drug?

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 14:46 | 6617065 pods
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That's rhetorical right?

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 15:05 | 6617137 pazmaker
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They are saying the shooter was a SHE

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 15:20 | 6617255 daveO
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Heaven forbid, it might be a bullied transgendered.  Like poor lil' Vester Lee Flanagan.

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 14:44 | 6617049 Sudden Debt
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It's not a gun debate!!!

IT SHOULD BE ABOUT ANTI DEPRESSIVIA DRUGS!!!!

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 14:50 | 6617054 MFL8240
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Another perfectly executed murder of Americans in Oregon the liberal meca of the country!

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 14:45 | 6617056 ACjourneyman
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It is a very conservative progun town, 21000 people and my daughter is college age so no doubt we will know someone, godspeed.

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 15:21 | 6617262 MFL8240
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Not true!

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 14:46 | 6617060 Bill of Rights
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57 PEOPLE SHOT IN ONE WEEKEND IN CHICAGO:
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/l...921-story.html

I guess it doesn't fit the narrative?

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 14:54 | 6617107 22winmag
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Heyjackass.com

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 15:01 | 6617151 Bill of Rights
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Sorry I was on Douche bag.com

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 15:04 | 6617169 22winmag
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Make it 58 dead last month in ChIraq?

 

http://heyjackass.com

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 15:19 | 6617245 Berspankme
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Rahm aka Tinkerbelle shared a bathhouse with many of the MSM and Obie

Fri, 10/02/2015 - 06:37 | 6619641 Refuse-Resist
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What did they make ole Rahmen noodle do when he rushed to Israel to join the IDF in 1991?

His partriotism is un measurable, for his 'other' home country.

DUAL CITIZENS in charge oh hell yeah!

ISRAEL FIRST BITCHES!

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 15:22 | 6617069 ejmoosa
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Gun Free Zone Thank God!  Imagine who might have gotten hurt if some of those victims had been able to defend themselves...

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 14:47 | 6617072 ToSoft4Truth
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35 people.  Not bad.  Banana clips taped together? 

Thu, 10/01/2015 - 14:48 | 6617079 Mark Mywords
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My sincerest regards to the gun. Please, above all, think of the gun.

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