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Saudis Mull Launch Of Regional War As Russia Pounds Targets In Syria For Fourth Day
While the US has certainly made some epic strategic blunders in Syria that raise serious questions about just how “intelligent” US intelligence actually is, there’s little doubt that if one were to look behind all of the media parroting, the Pentagon and Langley understand all too well what’s going on in the Middle East.
That is, the significance of the Russia-Iran “nexus” in Syria isn’t lost on anyone in the US military and you can bet there have been quite a few high level discussions over the past 72 hours about the best way to counter Moscow and Tehran’s powerplay before it spills over into Iraq and ends up degrading Washington’s influence in Baghdad.
As we put it on Friday, “if Russia ends up bolstering Iran's position in Syria (by expanding Hezbollah's influence and capabilities) and if the Russian air force effectively takes control of Iraq thus allowing Iran to exert a greater influence over the government in Baghdad, the fragile balance of power that has existed in the region will be turned on its head and in the event this plays out, one should not expect Washington, Riyadh, Jerusalem, and London to simply go gentle into that good night.”
Sure enough, some experts now predict Saudi Arabia, Qatar, and Turkey will move to counter Russia militarily if Moscow continues to rack up gains for Assad. Here’s The Guardian with more:
Regional powers have quietly, but effectively, channelled funds, weapons and other support to rebel groups making the biggest inroads against the forces from Damascus. In doing so, they are investing heavily in a conflict which they see as part of a wider regional struggle for influence with bitter rival Iran.
In a week when Russia made dozens of bombing raids, those countries have made it clear that they remain at least as committed to removing Assad as Moscow is to preserving him.
“There is no future for Assad in Syria,” Saudi foreign minister Adel Al-Jubeir warned, a few hours before the first Russian bombing sorties began. If that was not blunt enough, he spelled out that if the president did not step down as part of a political transition, his country would embrace a military option, “which also would end with the removal of Bashar al-Assad from power”. With at least 39 civilians reported dead in the first bombing raids, the prospect of an escalation between backers of Assad and his opponents is likely to spell more misery for ordinary Syrians.
“The Russian intervention is a massive setback for those states backing the opposition, particularly within the region – Qatar, Saudi Arabia and Turkey – and is likely to elicit a strong response in terms of a counter-escalation,” said Julien Barnes-Dacey, senior policy fellow at the European Council on Foreign Relations.
As the Syrian civil war has unfolded, Saudi Arabia has been clear about its position, say analysts. “Since the beginning of the uprising in Syria, the view in Riyadh has been that Bashar al-Assad must go. There is no indication what-soever that Riyadh will change this position,” said Mohammed Alyahya, associate fellow at the King Faisal Centre for Research and Islamic Studies in Riyadh.
“What is clear to Riyadh and its regional allies is that the recent Russian and Iranian escalation will only create a more unstable region and spill more blood,” he said.
Riyadh has focused support on rebels in the south, say analysts, while allies Turkey and Qatar have reportedly backed northern rebels, including conservative Islamist militias such as Ahrar al Sham.
That group, in alliance with the al-Qaida affiliate Jabhat al Nusra, recently reached a local ceasefire deal with Assad in the north. Its success in taking on government forces is thought to have been one trigger for the Russian bombing campaign and put them among the jets’ first targets.
“Most probably, the coming efforts will focus on boosting the effectiveness of major coalitions, co-ordination and co-operation between the most influential and effective groups in Syria,” said regional analyst Ali Bakeer.
Of course that isn’t going to work.
Say what you will about how successful guerilla/urban warfare can be when it comes to bogging down a conventional army (examples of this include Vietnam, the Soviet-Afghan war, and Somalia during the Black Hawk down debacle), but the disorganization of the Syrian resistance combined with the fact that Iran has its own well-armed militias on the ground that, in combination with Hezbollah, are providing the ground support for Russian airstrikes, means the situation is all but hopeless for the various Riyadh- and Doha-backed groups operating in Syria.
The only way to turn the tide here would be to intervene directly.
But just as Iran is unwilling to risk direct intervention on behalf of the Houthis in Yemen, Saudi Arabia and Qatar will likely be unwilling to risk direct intervention on behalf of their proxy armies in Syria. The problem for Riyadh and Doha: Syria is a lot more strategically important than Yemen. Here’s The Guardian again:
Saudi Arabia and Qatar are already embroiled in an expensive and bloody war in Yemen that may limit both their military and financial resources. They have also so far deferred to western bans on transferring hi-tech weapons – including missiles that could take down aircraft – over fears that they might change hands in the chaos of the war and be used against their makers.
“The uncertain question today is the degree of power combined with efficiency that regional powers will be willing to bring to the table,” said Barnes-Dacey. “Do the Saudis now try to take matters decisively into their hands, including by providing rebels with sophisticated weaponry long denied them?
“The new [Saudi] king [Salman] has shown a willingness to be much more assertive and take measures into the kingdom’s own hands. If the Saudis see the situation slipping out of their hands, and there is a real sense that the Iranians are consolidating their position in Syria, you could see much stronger response.”
And speaking of a “strong response,” Russia continued to hit anti-regime targets for a fourth consecutive day on Sunday, making good on the Defense Ministry’s promise to step up strikes. Here’s Reuters:
Air strikes by suspected Russian jets hit targets around the town of Talbiseh in western Syria on Sunday, residents and a group which monitors the civil war in Syria said, a day after Russia promised to step up its air campaign.
Ambulances rushed wounded people to hospital in Talbiseh, north of the city of Homs, and one resident said at least five bodies had been recovered from the western part of the town.
"So far there are seven or six raids in the town," said Abdul Ghafar al Dweik, a former government employee and volunteer rescue worker.
He said he believed the raid was carried out by Russian jets. "They come suddenly... With the Syrian planes, we would get a warning but now all of a sudden we see it over our heads," he said.
We have said time and again that there’s no question Russian airstrikes will contribute to human suffering in Syria. After all, when you drop bombs on populated areas you’re bound to kill civilians (including women and children) no matter what Moscow says. However, the highlighted passages above shouldn’t come as a surprise. If you want your airstrikes to be effective, you’re not going to warn anyone about them beforehand unless of course you're dropping a nuke in which case you can tell civilians to leave ahead of time because you're reasonably sure the destruction will be so vast as to make the element of surprise a non-factor.
As for the effectiveness of the strikes, The Kremlin is out again claiming that ISIS is on its heels. Via Bloomberg and the Russian Defense Ministry (translated):
- Russian warplanes have made 20 sorties, attacked 10 ISIS targets in Syria in past 24h, Russian Defense Ministry says on website.
- Air force has attacked militant training camps in Raqqa, Idlib provinces; destroyed explosives workshop
- Warplanes destroyed at least 4 ammunition depots, several command posts
- Russian forces have broken “the management and logistics of the terrorist organization” and caused “significant damage to the infrastructure used for preparation of terrorist attacks”
And here's David Cameron repeating the Assad "butcher" accustations (again, via Bloomberg):
Russia is “backing the butcher Assad, which is a terrible mistake for them and for the world,” Cameron told BBC Television’s “Andrew Marr Show” on Sunday. “It’s going to make the region more unstable, which will lead to further radicalization and increased terrorism.”
Cameron continued: “I would say to them change direction, join us in attacking ISIL but recognize that if we want to have a secure region we need an alternative to Assad,” using an alternative designation for Islamic State. Assad “can’t unite the Syrian people.”
Yes, Assad "can't unite the Syrian people", because clearly that's what this is all about, which explains why the West has been doing anything and everything to promote disunity among Syrians for the better part of a decade, and on that note, we close with the following excerpt from a leaked diplomatic cable penned by then-Deputy Head of Mission in Syria William Roebuck in 2006 which shows just how concerned the West is with Syrian "unity":
-- PLAY ON SUNNI FEARS OF IRANIAN INFLUENCE: There are fears in Syria that the Iranians are active in both Shia proselytizing and conversion of, mostly poor, Sunnis. Though often exaggerated, such fears reflect an element of the Sunni community in Syria that is increasingly upset by and focused on the spread of Iranian influence in their country through activities ranging from mosque construction to business. Both the local Egyptian and Saudi missions here, (as well as prominent Syrian Sunni religious leaders), are giving increasing attention to the matter and we should coordinate more closely with their governments on ways to better publicize and focus regional attention on the issue.
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Still evading? Look up what?
You have never read the talmud, nor could, and you cant answer a simple question. What happens saturday night on Israel?
Sodomy? That happens daily, but what goes on saturday night that makes it so special for you?
fine read this fucker. https://www.truthtellers.org/alerts/pedophiliasecret.html if you want the hebrew version go read it your damn self kike.
What you are saying basically is, that if Israel 's existence were to be threatened they would nuke the world.
See why Jews are so hated? They are leeches and parasites and psychos. Without US dollar funding Israel they wouold look like Gaza or worse.
Jews are filthy people.
Thats precisely what deterrence meas. But here you are whining like a bitch about how Israel should A)Dissapear and B)Not retaliate.
Like thats going to happen.
You are basically threatening Israel with nukes and a second later act offended at the thought of there being retaliation. Unfair?
The US would do the same, any nuclear armed country would do the same. The point is for the threat to be so serious that it deterrs the enemy (you) from any serious action.
Deterrence does not mean that if someone punches me, I set fire to the entire neighborhood.
Too much Judaism too early softened your brains some, Ben.
Israel will be boycotted into oblivion the way South Africa was. Israel's only supporter IN THE ENTIRE WORLD is the US. The US will soon be FORCED To leave the ME because of the dissarray caused by dual citizens running it's government and enacting the PNAC plan to take over country after country in the ME.
What about hitting the cradles of all three Abrahamic (absolutist philosophies), i.e. Jerusalem, Mecca, Medina?
Would that not end their religious extremism, and negate claims as to divine rights and prophecies, if there is nothing left standing but a radioactive dump?
Discuss pros & cons.
It will be interesting to see what those Jew pig bastards of Israel do now. Will they continue to bomb the Golan Heights now that Russa owns the skies of Syria>
Knowing the Israelis are punk cowards who only fight women and children, I doubt it.
So, Mad Alfred, as a new reader here I need to know if you're a CIA plant or Central Bank infiltrator sent to destroy this sites credibility as being just another Jew-hating rag of conspiracists. I wait with baited breath for your studied input and steady demeanor.
I find his style counter productive and irritating - but I think most people here are unimpressed with "hate" based arguments.
Why don't you prove him wrong instead of calling him names?
http://www.jpost.com/Middle-East/Report-Israel-treating-al-Qaida-fighter...
Over the years I've had dozens of friends work in Saudi as civilian contract military trainers. The Saudi military is complete shit. The rank and file are peasants that have zero loyalty to the state.
That was my experience working on SANGCOM decades ago for cable and wireless.
Seems nothing has changed, not that I ever thought it would.
And the US did NOTHING to bolster Iran's influence in the region by negotiating the Iran nuclear deal and releasing the hold on $150B in sovereign assets? What the fuck did they think was going to happen?
Obama was following the guidance as always of his old Columbia professor and mentor, Z. Brezinski, who fancies himself a genuis extrarodinaire when it comes to global chess; however his strategy of giving Iran a carrot to remove them from Russia's orbit has backfired completely, because the little genius has been found out to be a simpleton. Z. big said a few years that that regretably due to the Internet, "it is has become easier for governetns to to kill a million than to control a million".
"Cameron continued: “I would say to them change direction, join us in attacking ISIL [.....]"
Am I missing something? When has the UK, or the US for that matter, provided any evidence that they've attacked ISIL? The evidence says otherwise. Cameron's a joker. A buffoon. A foolish puppet. A liar.
Some UK politicians need to sync their model of reality with reality itself. They always seem to forget that this is not the beginning of the 20th century, UK has long lost all its colonies and is basically an island nation with great past but dim future, especially if one takes declining North sea oil fields in account.
Quite right.
I recall saying once that "the purpose of British elections is to choose a Prime Minister who will best manage the nation's decline into oblivion". That was 20+ years ago and nothing has changed. Problem is that political elites across the board have never come to terms with that reality and still see Britain in its role as the British Empire.
Cameron's statement about Russia destabilizing the region is embarrassing. I'm sure the fly on the wall saw the uncontrolable laughter backstage when he said that.
Don't forget that the UK still has power of the order of a bishop in the JFE (Jewish Finanical empire) and thus has a role to play in the grand chessboard strategy of Z. Brezinski. The UK or France (the other JFE biship) take orders from the same people that the US does
Dave will do whatever he is told to do - or the photos of him fucking that pig get published!
Is it true that David Cameron had sex with a pig? It really doesn't matter - Telegraphhttp://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/david-cameron/11879177/Is-it-tr...
Thankfully the pig was dead and didn't have to suffer the humiliation of having sex with an Englishman.
I take it you've experienced sex with an Englishman and didn't like it so much ;-)
He may have done after a heavy session.....of snorting Colombian marching powder.
This is a great opportunity for Iran to build several large bases in Syria
As the Syrian civil war has unfolded, Saudi Arabia has been clear about its position, say analysts. “Since the beginning of the uprising in Syria, the view in Riyadh has been that Bashar al-Assad must go. There is no indication what-soever that Riyadh will change this position,” said Mohammed Alyahya, associate fellow at the King Faisal Centre for Research and Islamic Studies in Riyadh.
I can't quite figure out why these Wahhabi wingnut child molesting goat-bangers from the House 'o Saud get a say on who runs Syria.
Saudia Arabia owns Mecca and Medina.
Without those two (Islam's holiest cities you'll never be allowed to visit), Saudi Arabia would have been paved over decades ago.
FYI -- Medina has always been open to non-Muslims. It serves as the capital of the first Islamic caliphate and non-Muslim ambassadors and traders from as far away as China regularly visited since the beginning of Islam.
I've been to Medina. It's a beautiful city, with gentle people and a sweet smell to the air. The warm character of the people is uncorrupted by the Wahhabi heresy. You should go there sometime.
The house of Saud owns much of Saudi Arabia, for now, but Mecca and Medina are owned by the bin Ladens.
They don't. Their statements are total psyops straight out of the playbook of the CIA or MI6. Russia and China are laughing at them because they know that the intended audience of the psyops, the Western common man, has become so informed by the Internet that the propaganda and psyops are of not convincing in the least and may even have distracted the side that is using it into wasing time playing weak gambits that they thought could be bluffed into strong ones before the Internet became a tool to inform..
Cameron is a complete dickhead... he must have gotten beaten up in school a lot
Maybe a victim of the pedophile private school system. Much of repressed rage. And blending out reality since age 10.
Using this Russian air cover Iran needs to move a huge army into Syria and start building weapon factories there. Get some of their air defences in Syria too. Set up near the Russian base.... joint Russia Iran Syria project... Then do the same in Iraq later. Then they can funnel the best and newest arms to their friends. That is the best plan....
The USA would be loved worldwide if they Wiped out Israel and Saudi and joined Iran.
Perhaps a tiny tad less despised. But "loved"...? Me thinks not a chance ever again.
advocating mass murder while pretending to be opposed to mass murder?
The problem is that war is the bankers richest harvest, and a lot of people in the MIC benefit from endless conflict.
You don't need to wipe out anybody.
You need to figure out how to get people, from the US to Israel, to Gaza to Iran - to identify their own extremists as people who should not be running the country or foreign policy.
'but is it good for the jews?' (sarc)
Seriously, all that the US has to do is Divest and Boycott; Israel will crumble once Hezbollah and Syria gets enough Russian and Iranian weapons to fight back Israeli incursions. Israeli has to keep expanding and creating enemies or it's fascist leadership wil wither away. That is the neocon philosophy as taught by Leo Strauss; Leo's own mentor and friend was the chief Nazi philosopher Carl Schmidt who he learned this from. Schmidt learned this from studying Machiavelli who believed great nations are only able to stay great if they fight external 'enemies' (whether real or imagined....think false flag of 911) and expand.
Morally, spiritually, financially and of course militarily bankrupt as the Anglozionazi Empire of Chao$ is....the future is clear to all other than the hubris filled debauched clown show in Washing town and Langley.
Onward to the new "new world order"!
The Russians 'get it', the Isrealis 'get it'. Assad will have a terrible time with three foreign powers operating on its soil and continue the regime as is.
Brilliantly, the Russians have stolen the "War on Terror" narrative. The US psychotics, psychopaths and megalomaniacs have proven incredibly stupid.
Russia asks the US to join them in fighting the war on terror. Hilarious.
Best thing is that they just began it. The westerners were hoping for an eight week period of adjusting joint strategy and of course achieving nothing. Then playing offended and breakoff saying: But lets meet in 4 weeks again.
Now the show is running without them.
Didn't give them much time to get their key operators and gear out either.
Some probably perished.
Bet the daily rate is through the roof.
I guess they mull a lot of stuff.
Seems like a good time for China to build some naval bases in Venezuela and Brazil
It appears that David Cameron and the rest of the August group leading the EU want more refugees. Obviously, the more Syria is destabilized, the more people are going to leave and head for richer Europe.
David is still hoping that enough refugees can come into England ('problem) to make the English clamor ('reaction') for a ('solution') and the one that will be offered is of course war on Syria
I suppose China will ask if they can permanently station some ships at Russia's base in Syria
We'll get right on it! How many would you like General, I mean, Admiral?
If the assorted running dogs in charge of Saudi Arabia enter the Syrian conflict directly and begin interferring with Russia's mission to eradicate terrorism, I wouldn't want to be living in Riyadh. It would then be interesting to see how Israel responds.
haha! ... he said 'running dogs'! ... and meant it! ... first it was with the 'stooges' ... 'lackeys' will be next!
Bibi has been hoping that the destabilization of Syria could mean that he could force Palestinians, or even offer them, safe passage to Europe as refugees, and thus make colonizing the West Bank even easier. But now Russia and Iran are helping to stabilze Syria by driving out the paid Jihadists. Since they may tryo to move to Europe, the willingness of the ordinary European to take in more refugees is waning
Correct.Gaddafi would have had tons of munitions.These were transported with
US help thru Turkey into Syria.With the Iraq war destabilizing the entire region,the Kurds
were able to establish there own mini-state with the bonus of oil in the ground.Turkey
has always been the weak man in the area politically,and has always opposed an
independent Kurdish nation.I am waiting for the first Russian warplane to be brought
down and the pilot roasted in a cage (on video).I can't see where the Russkies would
be very happy with the CIA/Mercs who provided the ManPads for this event.
The Russkies are very good at the airpower thing.The Iranians are tough on the
ground.The Russkies seem to want to get this over in months or less.Funny how they
don't seem to worry about any UN Security Council condemnation.Chinese Veto?
Well,death of the PetroDollar system.History in front of our eyes..
The only wildcard is the Israelis threat to use nukes if they don't get their way.
Aside from the PetroDollar collapse,there exists a strong threat of China and others
dumping Treasuries on the finance markets (if they are unhappy with US foreign
policy)."May you live in interesting times".....
I would absolutely love for Israel to threaten nukes. It would be the first nail in their coffin.
Apparently it is "unfair" to criticize Israel while not taking care to criticie every other country that does the same thing and:
1] has a huge 5th column/lobby to hijack foreign policy
2] has substantial influence in media
3] outright interferes in american elections;
4] were cited by bin laden and khalid mohammed as motivators for attcking the US.
But while WE *MUST* BELIEVE the government narrative of 9/11 - curiously, journalists studiously avoided their own purported MOTIVE - at least, when it mentioned 'Israel.'
High-Level American Intelligence and Counterterror Officials: Islamic Terror Is Motivated by U.S. Support for Tyrants in the Middle East and U.S. Support for Israel
http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2014/07/head-cia-unit-tasked-killing-bin-...
Shining Light on Roots of Terrorism
"For reasons that are painfully obvious, the FCM have done their best to ignore or bury the role that Israel’s repression of the Palestinians has played in motivating the 9/11 attacks and other anti-Western terrorism.
It is not like there is no evidence on this key issue. Rather, it appears that the Israel-Palestine connection is pretty much kept off limits for discussion.
Yet, as Sheikh Mohammed and the other alleged 9/11 conspirators go to trial, the FCM's tacit but tight embargo will be under great strain. Eyes will have to be averted from the sensitive Israeli-Palestinian motive even more than from torture, which most Americans know about (and, God help us, are willing to explain away).
...
But Cheney also slipped up in the speech, presumably because he had lost his best speechwriters upon leaving office. He inadvertently acknowledged the Israeli albatross hanging around the neck of U.S. policy in the Middle East.
“They [terrorists] have never lacked for grievances against the United States. Our belief in freedom of speech and religion … our belief in equal rights for women … our support for Israel… — these are the true sources of resentment,” Cheney said.
Yet “our support for Israel” is hardly ever included in these formulations, but Cheney at least got that part right.
Rarely in the FCM – and not even often on the Web – does one find Sheikh Mohammed’s explanation for what motivated him to “mastermind” 9/11. Apparently, few pundits have made it as far as page 147 of the 9/11 Commission Report.
..."
https://consortiumnews.com/2009/111509a.html
/// so yeah, it's unfair to pick on poor tiny, constantly meddling and spying and bribing nuclear rogue apartheid Israel.
Got it.
;0}
"The only wildcard is the Israelis threat to use nukes if they don't get their way."
Yes, they can deliver up to 300.
But they are finished forever with 1 hit.
< Putin the Statesman
< Obama the Statesman
Putin the no-nonsense KGB killer who plays to win.
Obama the Marxist community organizer-agitator, the darling child of the Ruling Class.
God Help the USA.
You really raise serious questions about just how “intelligent” US intelligence actually is??
Why shall US target their own people when the ISIS top commander is an AMERICAN! You don't believe it?
Nada a 19 year old woman just escaped from hell,
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3253107/Is-ISIS-commander-AMERIC...
He may be American but also Israeli. Dual citizen.
That's completely insane. You've obviously breathed from concentrated chemtrail inhalers.
Chaim Weizmann, the first Israeli President, wrote “there are no English, French, German or American Jews, but only Jews living in England, France, Germany or America.” http://www.gilad.co.uk/writings/jewish-voice-for-weizmann.html
Weizmann made that claim at the first zionist congress in 1897.
http://iamthewitness.com/books/Andrew.Carrington.Hitchcock/Synagogue.of....
And a kike hystery enthusiast!
Anyhow, all Saudis, Qatar and UK can do now is bark like a dog on a leash.
Oh, boy, the road to Damascus is going to be a long one for you. This is the end of the beginning, there was an opportunity opened two weeks ago for a real end, and it just got closed again.
Many things happened two weeks ago, and I don't see why I should go to Damascus in the first place. Now, I get it that you didn't mean that literally, Mr. Element, but can you elaborate on your statement and please provide more detail and put some context to it?
you first
Good bye, Mr. Element.
Mccain on cnn crying for the removal of the brutal dictator Assad. "He's killed 200,000!". Won't tell you Assad is fighting muslim brotherhood. And if civilian deaths are the criteria for removing those in power, mcpain and his buddies should be the first ones to go.
Those 200,000 dead fall on the USA responsbile for funding , training the terrorists in Syria.
Let them all beat each others brains in. I really don't give a fuck about that part of the world. Leave me out of it.
we can't - we need you involved
The CeyeA has been thick in Turkey for years setting up the 'arms for ISIS insurgent' pipeline. The Kurds don't like it, the Turk in the street doesn't like it, the Russians and Syrians don't like it one bit and the USSA sheeple wouldn't like what goes on in their name if they were paying attention.
Lord I feel sorry for stupidity .......... but I loath willful ignorance.
If the nukes fry us all at least you'll now have a vague notion of the reason.
~ DC
Read somewhere that the Saudis alone ordered $61 billion in arms, parts and support from the US within the last year.
This was before the Yemen thing.
Putin is aware that the Bolshevik Revolution was a jewish creation, he knows that Saudi Arabia is ruled by cripto-jews, and he knows who is behind Wall Street and the US Foreign Policy.
Russia is in a position to destroy Jewish-Zionist power forever.
well that would take an end to the anglo american empire
Here's the thing:
The Chinese know it, too.
This is good reporting. Why isn't it picked up elsewhere, I wonder.
Seriously, I would think the brits might pick up something.
The article quotes heavily from the Guardian which is a primary propaganda mouthpiece of the US/UK axis of evil.
Many more refugees in the making. Depopulation the intent.
Bobby Fischer, chess champ and is a Jew, discusses Jews.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1oO0_1oS_oU
Do us a favor.
Provide this link or 'theory', as you will, wherever "Christian" Zionists, and/or the 'Yeshua' crowd gather.
THE PRIORY OF SION & BARACK OBAMA
http://watch.pair.com/synarchy-3.html
When I hear or read about these Western "conservative," leaders go full-on neocon, I just vomit a little in the back of my throat. They're so fake, so obvious that I just can't believe they manage to sleep at night knowing the constant lies that spill out from their forked tongues.
Iran is the House of Saud's enemy...not mine. It wasn't Iranians that bombed Americans in 2001. It wasn't Iranians that beheaded and brutalized Christians, Alawites, Sufis and other minorities in Syria and Iraq...it was Islamic State and al-Qaeda, both born from the House of Saud. It wasn't Iranians who brutalize their own people to such an extent that women are treated as third class citizens, and others can be murdered simply for being in a musical group.
I simply want Assad to win, Iran to win and Russia to win. This country (US), and the countries of the former West, are run by neocons, one-worlders and terrorists.
Ditto +1000
Tabriz air base
SU-34 squadron
clear Mosul-Al Raggah corridor
S300VM at Aleppo and Al Raqqah
Sovereign no-fly-zone over Syria
War is over
AmeriKa IS by far the #1 terrorist corporation in the entire world. Isreal is #2 and uses ameriKa as a proxy for its kike zionist means. The world is waking up to these facts. It is a matter of time before the parrots come home to roost for ameriKa and Kikeistan.
YES, kikeistan NEEDS to be wiped off the map. The world would be at peace again.
Fuck the Kikes, the puppetmasters of ameriKa
Fuck the puppets, cia etc.
Fuck them all!
GO PUTIN, KICK SOME kikistani CIA PUSSY ASS!!!
+1000
Goddamn! Somebody is finally WASHING the dirty laundry... I tip my hat to Putin and the Russians!...
P(r)iggish Cameron has struck again!
You know it's bad when a country ruled by pedophiles and pig skull fuckers is morally outraged.
They don't like Assad because he refuses to put in one of their central banks.
MOAR WAR 101
the ziocons
are getting desperate
a flock of swan's on the horizon
don't believe anything you didn't see proof of
is this your fathers socialism
The Destabilization Doctrine: ISIS, Proxies and Patsies
http://nonalignedmedia.com/2015/02/destabilization-doctrine-isis-proxies...
Another story about Syria and ISIS with no mention of Israel is crazytalk.
http://www.ahavat-israel.com/eretz/future
http://www.historycommons.org/context.jsp?item=western_support_for_islam...
http://www.atlanteanconspiracy.com/2013/05/the-zionist-jew-world-order.html
The Jewish people as a whole will become its own Messiah. It will attain world domination by the dissolution of other races, by the abolition of frontiers, the annihilation of monarchy and by the establishment of a world republic in which the Jews will everywhere exercise the privilege of citizenship.
In this New World Order, the children of Israel will furnish all the leaders without encountering opposition. The Governments of the different peoples forming the world republic will fall without difficulty into the hands of the Jews. It will then be possible for the Jewish rulers to abolish private property and everywhere to make use of the resources of the state.
Thus will the promise of the Talmud be fulfilled, in which it is said that when the Messianic time is come, the Jews will have all the property of the whole world in their hands.
Baruch Levy, Letter to Karl Marx, printed in La Revue de Paris, p. 574, June 1, 1928
The House of Rothschild was (and is) the ruling power in Europe, for all the political powers were willing to acknowledge the sway of the great financial DESPOT, and like obedient vassals, pay their tribute without murmur.
J. Reeves, The Rothschilds, p. 105
We intend to turn Europe into a mixed race of Asians and Negros ruled over by the Jews.
Count Kalergi-Coudenhove, 1925
International Finance is controlled by great Jewish money lenders and Communism is being propagated by Jewish agitators who are at one fundamentally with the powerful capitalists of their race in desiring an international world order, which would, of course, give universal sovereignty to the only international race in existence (the Jews).
William Joyce, 1937
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Obama's a secret muslim? Maybe.
Socialist? Perhaps.
Doesn't mean he isn't a puppet of Zionist Jews, just like his first chief of staff, who is literally an Israeli agent.
The Chicago Jewish News: Obama and the Jews
http://www.ifamericansknew.org/us_ints/po-obamaj.html
http://stormcloudsgathering.com/
Paranoid schizophrenic much?
You don't even know what that means, you fucktard
Wonder of wonders, a mindless, reflexive hasbara troll dispensing ad hominem moments after a post, clearly having not read any of the links - here, referencing statements/papers written by JEWS.
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Best you can do?
You must be part of the B team.
Game change: Russia can now warn Israel against IAF operations over Syria
http://libertyunyielding.com/2015/09/30/game-change-russia-can-now-warn-...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dZAS0c_0eSU
By the way - the __________ much? thing is a little played - no?
What never gets mentioned is how events in Syria (and Iraq and Lebanon) conform to the Yinon Plan program.
Sadly, only WW3 can fix this problem - with exception of USA imploding... the latter is the best course of action.
Imminent implosion of the USA is the reason we are headed towards WWIII.
ww3 wont fix anything if jews survive
i keep saying again...usa would rather burn the world down with nukes than give another country the keys to the kingdom
Yes, sadly I don't see either side backing down. This could start the big one for all the marbles. It's in slow motion, but it's picking up speed.
Russkies must be shitting in their pants from these Saudi/Qatari threats, LOL.
Just keep on, keeping on, Russia/Iran...Run these rats, back to where they're from!
let them make plans on the run...BOMB, BOMB and BOMB!!!
Can we can the charade already and just call the Gulf states what they are? US colonies.
And Gulf security is basically US too. None of them speak or act outside of the parameters of US foreign policy.
Who can lead the revolution in the USA? Trump? if he survives.. I am sure the zios will try and take him out.
SA worried that the "coalition of the good and honest" Russia/Syria/Iran and Iraq will corner ISIS and force them south thru western Iraq/eastern Jordan into Saudi Arabia itself. The Royal Family, beheaders in chief, will receive the goes around.
Hillary Clinton : We created Al-Qaeda
Hillary Clinton : We created Al-Qaedahttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dqn0bm4E9yw
A recently declassified document again shows the United States’ complicity in the rise of ISIS.
https://www.jacobinmag.com/2015/06/isis-syria-assad-iraq-benghazi/
Former Defense Intelligence Agency Chief Says Rise of Islamic State Was “A Willful Decision”
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article42567.htm
Just so we're clear - the United States, Israel and Turkey, S.A., and Qatar have supported, materially, financially, and logistically, foreign jihadi terrorists, including groups generally labelled as "Al Qaeda" and "ISIS"
Were I Putin I would expect and anticipate even more of the same, as well as Israeli aggression in Lebanon and the Golan, new weapons to murder civilians in Eastern Ukraine - more and more blatantly to enrage Russian nationalists, and we can be sure the western media will not cover the story...
Of course, Judo is about redirecting your oppositions force and controlling balance/leverage while maintaining the ability to circle away.
Escalation by the US, Israeli, Saudi nexus {Turkey has its hands ful and it is about to get worse for them....} is expected.
So is Russia opening new fronts when that happens.
What if come early December - Qatari and Saudi oil/gas fields are either partially destroyed, or 'threatened' by insurgencies?
"What if come early December - Qatari and Saudi oil/gas fields are either partially destroyed, or 'threatened' by insurgencies?"
Gazprom, Rosneft and Petróleos de Venezuela will make a killing in such scenario.
Bingo. Once the insurgents are mopped up in Syria / Iraq expect them to turn on their masters in the KSA. All part of Putin's plan to get oil prices back up. Expect some destabilization in Turkey too.
Get a grip, that airbase and all of its planes is about 10 minutes away from complete obliteration at any given moment. Any hint that Russia wanted to make attacks in other countries and that air base would be gone quicker than you can swivel your head up and down on pooties cock.
Who would have thought that the US strategy of not bombing ISIS while periodically having a 'whoopsie' of weapons and other gear to ISIS would result in 'not weakening' ISIS.
https://socioecohistory.files.wordpress.com/2014/07/msm-propaganda_pales...
STUPID JEWS
saudis are ruled by jews
israel isnt targeted by saudi arabia
turkey dont target israel either
wannabe muslim pussy CUNTries
islam is a failed copy pedo-moon-god religion
Saudi and Turkey ruled by Donmeh Jews.
google it.
i know erdogan isnt of turkish origin
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Recep_Tayyip_Erdo%C4%9Fan
"Personal life and education
Main article: Early life and career of Recep Tayyip Erdo?an
Erdo?an was born in the Kas?mpa?a neighborhood of Istanbul as an Israilian cipsy to which his family had moved from Rize Province. Erdo?an allegedly said in 2003, "I'm a Georgian, my family is a Georgian family which migrated from Batumi to Rize." However, in a 2014 televised interview on the NTV news network, he said, "You wouldn't believe the things they have said about me. They have said I am Georgian...even with much uglier things, they have called me Armenian, but I am Turkish."
and here
http://www.frumpics.com/Hock/Turkey-Europes-Synagogue-/i-rcdHDcM
Right Zionist {Likud, Shas, Jewish Home, etc.} Jews and their amen corner in the US DEep State, media, etc.
By using "Jews" you make enemies of some of the most vital allies there are - liberal/libertarian/moderate Jewish Israelis, intellectuals, etc.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3srSGQYpEEk
Finkelstein, Blumenthal, Weiss, Pappe, Shahak {dead now sadly} and many others are the best weapons against the Adelsons and Netanyahus.
Six Russian fighter jets type Multirole Sukhoi SU - 30 SM have intercepted 4 Israeli McDonnell Douglas F-15's fighter bombers attempting to infiltrate the Syrian coast.The Israeli F 15 warplanes have been flying over Syrian airspace for months and in particular the coast of Latakia, which is now the bridgehead of the Russian forces in Syria.
The Israeli jets would generally follow a fairly complex flight plan and approach Latakia from the sea
On the night of 1 October 02, 2015, six Sukhoi SU-30 Russian SM fighters took off from the Syrian Hmimim airbase in the direction of Cyprus, before changing course and intercepting the four Israeli F-15 fighters off the coast of Syria, that were flying in attack formation.
Surprised by a situation as unexpected and probably not prepared for a dogfight with one of the best Russian multipurpose fighters, Israeli pilots have quickly turned back South at high speed over the Lebanon.
The mighty Israeli military doesn't do so well against opponents who can actually fight back! They'll probably bomb Gaza again so they can feel butch about themselves!
Read more: WHAT REALLY HAPPENED | The History The US Government HOPES You Never Learn! http://whatreallyhappened.com/#ixzz3ncnOMUxV
jews are the worst trash in human history
the filth of the filth
http://newobserveronline.com/rumors-of-netyanhus-son-dating-norwegian-gi...
Why do you think they have been kicked out of 109 places throughout history?
Only group of people that actually teach their children its okay to lie, cheat, steal and even kill, as long as its not another Jew.
thats the reason for their "success"
they infiltrate countries with naive friendly people, take over media and money, mix with the elite and the county goes down
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fkiL-v4X8w8
DO NEVER TRUST JEWS
That "Zombie Snail" video is a remarkable biological analogy of how the criminal parasites consume humanity by taking over the global monetary and informational fractal.
Only 109?
Sorry Alfred but that is almost certainly propaganda.
Up to date only 4 SU-30SM intercepters have been spotted in Syria, so the story falls at the first hurdle, 'where is the photo proof?'
It is also unlikely all 4 would be in the same place at the same time, they operate in pairs.
The Saudis couldn't fight their way out of a paper bag. Riven with tribal rivalries, nepotism, officers never risking their own hides. All bluster.
The iranians and kurds must move with absolute haste setting up a huge invasion force if necessary. The hundreds they are talking about arent going to cut it they need a force of 50k in syria as of yesterday. Russia knows the usa will likely seek to punch below the belt, so speed is of the utmost importance. And where are the goddamned chinese put some presence on the ground already you wussie. Can the chinese not see this could likely be the pivot for reigning in the american empire. Countries allied to russia must be seen as being a coalition. Saudi and qatar would dare fuck with russia if they knew chinese jets and army infrastructure was in the area.
It is possible that the first 5000 Iranians were already in position in the west prior to the Russian attacks, hence the SAA re-invigorated fighting atm.
The way to break Saudi is bring oil down to 10 dollars a barrel..
Russia and Iran will survive because they have enough for domestic use and don't need outside help.
This cartoon says it best: http://sputniknews.com/cartoons/20151002/1027919479/us-russia-syria-cart...
usa is not doing war to win they are doing war to steal tax money
who payed for all this crap?
Federal Reserve.
So Saudi with their dirty perverted evil feudal kings and princes, currently engaged in bombing civilians in Yemen,say "there's no place for Assad in Syria ??"
SINCE when did the Saudi's ever get their hands dirty in a real war? It's always their MONEY ... and the blood of someone else.
Like another tribe I know of....
Saudi-Arabien = Die Sau von Arabien
Ganz Genau. Stimmt, Richtig
Russia bombs pipeline transportation pumps. Putin wants to destroy Mid-East oil infrastructure.
Highly unlikely.
Source?
"In this case the ground operation would be a large-scale international coalition, naturally not only of Western countries, but also Russia, Turkey, Iran and Arab states. But this would be difficult, as for a ground operation to be effective, it is necessary to negotiate a political decision in Iraq, and most of all Syria, and there is no consensus on this issue," Vedrine told Kommersant.
"The question of Syria's future must be discussed independently of Assad's fate, otherwise we remain in a dead end," Vedrine added.Read more: http://sputniknews.com/politics/20151005/1028034419/french-ex-fm-calls-syria-ground-operation-inevitable.html#ixzz3ngsvEddR
Here some social media statements by members of the "moderate islamic opposition" that Barack Obama and his two piece of shit (Cameron and Hollande) are supporting.
From wikipedia
In response to reports of Russian intervention, the Army of Conquest's Liwa al-Haqq commander Abu Abdullah Taftanaz posted a tweet addressing the "infidel Russians", inviting them to send troops to Syria and saying that "we have thousands like Khattab" who would "slaughter your pigs".[76][77] Abu Abdullah Taftanaz also tweeted Russian military terms for Syrian rebels to familiarize themselves with if they intercepted Russian radio chatter.[78][79][80][81][82] Reportedly Chechen and Caucasian foreign fighters have begun flocking to the coastal regions of Syria where the Russians are based in order to seek them out.[83]
Ahmad Eissa al-Sheikh, a commander in Turkish/Saudi-backed Ahrar ash-Sham,[84] threatened to bring upon "Russian hell in a Levantine flavor" if they encountered the Russians.[85][86] Harakat Fajr ash-Sham al-Islamiya leader Abu Abdullah ash-Shami tweeted about the "globalization" of the "Levantine Jihad".[87][88] He also tweeted that on the Russians and said that "The Levant will become their graveyard, with the permission of Allah".[89] The Al-Qaeda-linked Al-Nusra Front[90] has set a reward for the seizure of Russian soldiers of 2,500,000 Syrian pounds (approximately US$13,000).[91][92]
The Syria based, Al-Qaeda linked Saudi cleric Abdallah Muhammad Al-Muhaysini threatened that Syria would be a "tomb for its invaders" or "graveyard for invaders" in response to the Russian intervention and brought up the Soviet war in Afghanistan.[93][94][95]
Empty words. They will face Iranian ground troops, not Russians. In the meantime:
At least three thousand fighters from ISIS, "Nusra" and "Jaish al-Yarmuk" fled to Jordan. (article in Russian, use Yandex to translate)
I completely agree with the above statement about the conflict being about future WATER RIGHTS. That said,every
few years there needs to be a "proving ground" war which demonstrates whose technology is superior.I still remember
when the US choppers were being shot out of sky over Mogadishu.Cheap technology over expensive technology.
The very expensive,but productive Drone program of the US.No pilots at risk of being captured.This is about FORCE MULTIPLIERS.
Fewer boots on the ground is not just a game changer but a PR winner with fewer casualties.The Falklands conflict where
the UK used the jumpjet Harriers against the Argies. Short-range agile aircraft vs. long-range aircraft running on fumes.
Then there is the Chinese...Yes,the Chinese build high performance aircraft.Who woulda thought....
This conflict may have been framed as an alternative way to pressure Putin,as the Ukraine gambit failed.The Mideast area is
awash with oil ,but freshwater not so much. My question is why there was such an unplanned,spontaneous migration of people
to Europe?
Did someone decide to pressure Europe at the same time of a meltdown of their banks? If the Russkies can control
the airspace and the Iranians can move on the ground,then the Syrian opposition (Mercs and Jihadis) will be asking for more money.
The US and Europe and Russia cannot afford proxy wars such as this is developing into.Think about it...
Look at the financial state of Illinois,or Michigan,or anywhere else.There simply is no money left.No way to tax people more
and no way to sell debt bonds after numerous cities have defaulted. With the demise of the Petrodollar system the Central
bankers have got to be squirming in their seats over what is next.
I don't see where any amount of UN arm twisting and bribery will paper over this screwup.
So how long before all those thousands of Libyan SAMs Ambassador Stevens was dealing in start showing mysteriously up in Syrian rebel hands?
And what will be Putins response to the western supply lines when some of his planes get shot down?
Russia can cut off the only supply route to US forces in Afghanistan.
Russia can turn off the gas to EU/NATO
Russia has lots of options.
They cut off that supply route in May.
German Chancellor Angela Merkel for the first time publically accepted the fact that Crimea doesn’t belong to Ukraine and that the peninsula will stay as part of Russia, Alexei Pushkov, head of the Foreign Affairs Committee of the Russian Duma, said on his Twitter account, according to Gazeta.ru.
Read more: WHAT REALLY HAPPENED | The History The US Government HOPES You Never Learn! http://whatreallyhappened.com/#ixzz3nd0BnFlz
Is that because the EPA went to far on VW?
Tit for tat
$18bln=Crimea
"on November 2, 1917, British imperialism in Palestine began when Lord Balfour, the then British foreign secretary and former prime minister, sent a letter to Baron Rothschild, one of the leaders of the Zionist movement. This letter became known as the “Balfour Declaration”.
In that letter, Balfour promised British support for the Zionist programme of establishing a “national home for the Jewish people” in Palestine. This pledge of support was made without consulting the indigenous Christian and Muslim inhabitants of Palestine, the Palestinian people. And it was made before British troops had even conquered the land.
Balfour, on behalf of Britain, promised Palestine – over which Britain had no legal right – to a people who did not even live there (of the very small community of Palestinian Jews in Palestine in 1917, very few were Zionists). And he did so with the worst of intentions: to discourage Jewish immigration to Britain. No wonder Lord Montagu, the only Jewish member of the Cabinet, opposed the declaration.
And yet, just two years earlier, Britain had committed herself to assisting the Arab nations in achieving their independence from the Ottoman Empire. Arab fighters all over the region, including thousands of Palestinians, fought for their freedom, allowing Britain to establish her mandate in Palestine. "
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/palestinianauthority/9645925/Britain-must-atone-for-its-sins-in-Palestine.html
I have a personal troll now. Does that me I have finally "Arrived" as a veteran ZH poster? I've felt like the Newbie for long enough I guess.