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Syria Ground War Imminent? U.S. Accuses Russia Of Launching Syrian Land Campaign
While the US was been surprised and angered by the stunningly fast turn of events in Syria where in the span of less than a month Russia unleashed a massive, Syria-based airborne campaign against what it says are ISIS terrorists, even as the US accuses Putin of targeting "moderate rebels", it has had little recourse in accusing Putin of violating Syrian sovereignty: after all Russia is the only nation that Syria has officially invited to eradicate the "terrorist threat" that is ISIS.
Then, last Friday, Syria raised the stakes once again, when as Bloomberg reported a loyalist of the Assad regime said "terrorism cannot only be fought from the air," making an appeal for more military involvement to defeat Islamic State.
In a defiant speech at the United Nations General Assembly in New York, Syrian Foreign Minister Walid al-Muallem criticized the current approach to fighting the group that has conquered swathes of territory and was encroaching on President Bashar al-Assad’s coastal stronghold in Latakia. Those gains triggered Russian intervention.
“Air strikes are useless unless they are coordinated with the Syrian Arab army, the only force to combat terrorism,” al-Muallem, who also holds the title of deputy prime minister, told a largely empty assembly hall on Friday, the last day of speeches.
The logical implication is that Syria will next invite, if it hasn't already done so, Russian troops to join the Russian airforce in eradicating the great ISIS strawman which until recently was the pretext for "coalition" forces to bombard Syria with complete disregard for Syrian sovereignty, and the intention of destroying Assad's military so the CIA can conclude a regime change with a pro-western leader, one which will permit the passage of a Qatar gas pipeline.
Whether or not this assessment is accurate is irrelevant, because earlier today the US decided to jump right on it, and as CNN reported, accordint to the latest U.S. assessment of Moscow's activity in western Syria, "Russia has moved several ground combat weapons and troops into the area to potentially back up Syrian forces in the field planning to attack anti-regime forces, according to two U.S. defense officials."
The U.S. views the move as Russia "stepping up its ground activity" in Syria to attack those forces, rather than ISIS elements, according to one of the officials.
It's believed the Russians are positioning the weapons to be able to support a Syrian ground offensive, the officials said.
The equipment includes several piece of artillery, as well as four BM-30 multiple-launch rocket systems -- all considered to be highly accurate weapons. The latter is capable of rapid-fire rocket launches. Several weeks ago, Russia moved about half a dozen artillery pieces into Latakia port.
The U.S. originally had thought that might be for defense of the port, but the latest move is an indication of potential ground attacks in the coming days, the official said. The weapons have been spotted between Homs and Idlib and west of Idlib.
It is not clear if they're now in final position for possible artillery strikes.
The officials also said that Russia has moved electronic jamming equipment into Syria. Both a truck-mounted system and a number of pods that can go on aircraft have been observed. This could potentially give the Russians the ability to jam electronics of coalition aircraft.
Naturally, when playing the diplomatic game, one never admits or denies one's true intentions until well after the fact, and moments ago the speaker of the Russian Federation Valentina Matviyenko denied. According to Interfax, Matviyenko said Russia has no intention of taking part in ground operations in Syria.
"We do not intend, and we will not engage in any ground operations" said Matvienko in the meeting with the head of Jordan's Senate president Abdelraouf al-Rawabdeh. She stressed that the Russian air campaign in Syria is to support the actions of the regular Syrian army against terrorists.
Which, ironically, is the excuse for US presence in Syria too.
What happens next? A very likely course of events is that despite Russia's denials, the Pentagon will use the gambit of a Russian ground campaign, credible or not, to get permission from Congress to send a "small", at first, then bigger ground force of US troops in Syria to, you guessed it, "fight ISIS", but really to do everything to prevent Russian troops from taking over key strategic positions.
What happens then? Well, with the previously discussed Russian naval blockade of Syria as a likely next step, and with both US and Russian warplanes already flying back and forth above Syria, and now both superpowers having a legitimate, if only in the eyes of their own media, justification to dispatch land troops, what was until now a mere proxy war is about to become full blown land combat on Syrian soil, one which will soon involve both Russian and US ground, sea and airborne forces.
The last missing step will be when US cruisers, destroyers and/or battleships park next to the Syrian coastline, within earshot (and every other "shot") away from comparable Russian warships. Keep tabs on the weekly US naval update, because once several US warships weigh anchor in the vicinity of Syria that will be the catalyst for the next and final escalation.
At that point, the world will be one false flag away from what some could call another world war, only this time one launched not in Serbia but Syria.
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… The secretary put me through to the orderly officer who politely explained: “Well before the military operation in Syria began a crucial decision had been taken by the General Staff of the Russian Defense Ministry. The essence of this decision consists in our aspiration, traditional for Russia, to strictly observe the principles of legality and justice. Therefore, from now on all our ammunition is divided in two categories: ordinary and moderate. We use exclusively ordinary ammunition against ordinary terrorists, and against moderate terrorists we use exclusively moderate ammunition. So don’t worry, we take modesty of some terrorists into account and are dealing with them justly.”
Having heard these words, I felt considerably better. But I tried to clarify: “So, do you really use exclusively moderate ammunition against moderate terrorists, is it true?!”
My collocutor answered: “Word of an officer!”
I felt absolutely well. To bring the ultimate clarity, I asked: “Tell me, please, what’s the difference between your ordinary ammunition and the moderate one?”
“Our ordinary ammunition differs from moderate ammunition exactly as much as ordinary terrorists differ from moderate ones in Syria: it is carefully painted in colours of lighter, more moderate tints”, the officer answered and hung up.
http://voiceofarussian.blogspot.com.cy/
"...I had forgotten that the rumor was they were running Stingers (and other arms) through Benghazi, right?..."
I would have to say: probably.
Seymour Hersh: Benghazi Attack A Consequence Of Weapons “Rat-Line” To Syria
A veteran journalist presents a damning timeline of the lead up to the attack on the U.S. Consulate in Benghazi and alarming details of how the U.S. was feeding weapons to Syria.
and this:
The Stingers of Benghazi
by JIM GERAGHTY May 24, 2013 4:00 AM
Public reports corroborate some, but not all, of a stunning accusation about Benghazi
There were different incidences of either Stingers and SA-7s being seen - Libya undoubtedly had both types in its weapons depots for the looting. Damn! I could have used a few of those. Mostly for squirrels and other assorted rodents.
Calling William Banzi!
I see the Pied Piper of DC playing his skin-flute, leading the rats into the Capital.
As soon as the terrorists start using MANPADS the Russians will switch from bombardment with aircraft to using ballistic missiles instead.
They even have what look to be scuds looted from the Syrian army depots. Buks too. This is way beyond 'monkey with a grenade' territory.
Oh, for sure it will be False Flag galore as it's the only card left for the Zionist / Criminal Fraud UNITED STATES, CORP. INC. / Scum Fuck CIA to play then blame game.
Fucking pussies.
Please, friends, do NOT get on any Malaysian Airlines plane flying over or near anywhere in the Mideast. Those darned Rooskies are just itching to blow another one out of the sky, just like they supposedly did over Ukraine.
I called that a few days ago, but then again, who didn't?
The key is calling the week or day. It's in the next 2 months for sure.
1) "Russia" nukes US soil.
2) Ukraine invades Russia.(grasping at straws here.)
3) Greece invades Turkey.(much more grasping)
4) "Jihadists" nuke Moscow.
Ok, enough clowning. What could give NATO justification to openly attack Russia in Syria?
Its too late. The only thing left for ZIONATO is either a false flag and a major escalation, or going straight to the major escalation. Unfortunately, the escalation may occur just by accident.
What should give people pause is that if there really is an escalation, it likely will not be progressive, it will be logrithmic. The ZIONAZis have apparently been caught completely off guard by Putin's moves in Syria, and their hubris does not bode well for peace in the world. Reality has not quite sunk in yet - but it sure looks like Putin has unmasked the ZIONAZI narrative and left their naked imperialism for the world to see, and has done it with amazing ease.
It seems to me Syria is Russia's answer to ZIONATO's provocation in Ukraine. Putin is telling the world - "when Russian troops are engaged, you'll know it". The ZIONATO deep state's claim that the Russian Armed forces were in Ukraine (hence the humiliations) will be shown once and for all to be bullshit.
The Russian Armed forces are in Syria with announcements, noise and fanfare: now the World gets to see what happens when they are actually doing their thing.
Notice how sober Ukraine is acting the last few days. I think they get the message how much Russia has been pulling their punches over there...
I think that is why Putin symbolically parked their biggest nuke sub off the coast of Syria. Just an exclamation mark to his treaty obligations to Syria concerning defense. No matter how you look at it, the Russian troops are legitimally in the country, any USA troops would not be.
And I get sick and tired of NATO calling for regime changes. Maybe Assad should step up to the podium and call Cameron and Obama and Mr too much Hollandaise sauce for the war criminals they are and call for their removal. Who made those serial killers the morality police.
"Who made those serial killers the morality police."
Their corrupt, evil, media.
There will be no US ground troops in Syria. They go nowhere without air cover. Which they won´t have in the Russians-only-flyzone.
I have my doubts Russian forces were in the Ukraine in an official capacity (I'm sure there was no one stopping Russian "volunteers").
I think people misse the whole point in having the Kiev government lose the war. After all, if they won against "Russian aggression", then they don't really need to have NATO help. So Kiev *had* to lose the civil war. And when the lose the war, they tackle more anti-Russian rhetoric on and blame the (non-existent) Russian presence as they reason for losing instead of their own incompetence.
Commanders in the DPR/LPR have to realize this before their own hubris costs them dearly ... should Kiev be suicidal enough to reopen that can of worms.
Agreed. At the time, he stated his response would be asymmetrical.
People don't listen. If the Tylers bothered reading their own posts, they would have pointed out that Iranian ground forces have already been announced. Revolutionary Guard has had boots on the ground in Syria for years. ZH even reported on it, back around the time CIA was busted giving chemical weapons to the 'moderate' rebels. Look it up.
If Obama were to grow a semblance of a spine and not go along with a major escalation in Syria, he could always be taken out by a crazed white supremacist loner (the security services must have a whole bag-full of those tucked away for emergency use).
And the newly incumbent Biden runs for his own first term, in memory of the fallen messiah. It cuts wax!
If anybody has a history of arming Islamic Lunatics (TM), it's the United States of America.
Russia is always fighting against them, in AFghanistan, Chechnia, and now Syria. While the USA arms the Muhahadeen, Al Queda, and now the Israeli Sercet Intelligence Service.
What next?
Am I missing something here? If the US sends troops into Syria (with or without Congressional approval) without a request from the Syrian government - isn't that an act of war?
Correct. Syria should state in no uncertain terms that any uninvited foreign forces arriving in the country will be treated as hostile invaders and repelled to the full capability of its armed forces.
...and the capability of its invited friends.
It IS.
I have found the following graphic helpful in keeping track of the various factions fighting in Syria against Assad:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CQfwkI2WwAALwwn.jpg
Here look at this row of combine harvesters in the wheat.
Few days ago, Kadyrov, the head of Chechnya, asked Putin to deploy chechen infrantry in Syria.
https://www.rt.com/politics/317393-this-will-be-holiday-kadyrov/
“Being a Muslim, a Chechen and a Russian patriot I want to say that in 1999 when our republic was overrun with these devils we swore on the Koran that we would fight them wherever they are,”
Well, that's because Kadyrov is total tool of Putin - a puppet in pacified Checknya. He will say whatever Putin wants him to say.
yomutti
Fresh Troll- one week, 5 days.
You know nothing about Chechnya
kadyrov fought against the russian federation until he turned coat and joined it.
how loyal do you think he is to putin really? kadyrov is pretty scary- read his backstory. you would probably not want him ruling the place you live.
I'm pretty sure the vast majority of these downvoters have no idea what they are talking about re: Kadyrov. An unfortunate number of ZH regulars don't do anything but parrot the tenor of whatever they are reading. An honest appraisal of the situation by an logical human being would express at least skepticism at the championing of Kadyrov. Mabye his defamation is all a western intel setup, but there is simply not enough information to make the determination that he is a beneficent leader.
I'm sure that "the Agency" will have plenty of ecstatic comments on this story.
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/06/07/magazine/the-agency.html?_r=0
Hopefully they won't be paid in potatoes per day of posting, as you are...
What part of Putin's statement about stable nations lessen ISIS influence did the Obama administration not comprehend?
I mean it is one thing to mess around out of the sight of the public.
But it is another thing to start yapping away in public the way this administration has. The whole world begins to wonder where they got that crack pipe from.
I don't buy it. Iranian infantry and Hezbollah are more than sufficient ground forces, now that they have air support.
OTOH... maybe they're preparing for the aftermath of an American accidentally on purpose.
Because Muzzies don't like to play with people that shoot back.
Next time I need the opinion of an idiot I know whom to ask.
As an American,I ain't feeling to Gung-Ho about this one...let's just take a pass,and move on(as in,just pack it up,bro).
We refused to play nice in the same sandbox with Putin, so Putin took the sandbox! Go Vlad!
"The last missing step will be when US cruisers, destroyers and/or battleships park next to the Syrian coastline, within earshot (and every other "shot") away from comparable Russian warships. Keep tabs on the weekly US naval update, because once several US warships weigh anchor in the vicinity of Syria that will be the catalyst for the next and final escalation."
Do the Tyler's even read each other's posts?
Russia Escalates Syria Proxy War: Threatens Full Naval Blockade Of Syria
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-10-05/russia-escalates-syria-proxy-wa...
Doubt the US is going to provoke WW III by breaking a Russian naval blockade.
I never trust writers who think the US still has battleships on active duty.
http://arstechnica.com/civis/viewtopic.php?t=476166
Haha Russia has exit strategy. US proxies will be bounced out of Syria like their proxies were bounced out of S Ossetia. Let the locals do the mopping up without interference from NATO.
You watch too many movies. Go to bed early, because you'll have got a nervous breakdown.
Kick Bolshevik Ass Vlad. Finish the whole lot off by Christmas.
A fight for dominance.
The Empire will be dead soon when losing Syria, better: when they fail to get the monopoly on gas-transfers to (especially) Europe.
Russia as well knows that it's future will be tough when Europe doesn't count as a willing customer any longer, when Europe is refusing to take even cheaper Russian gas because of viable alternatives. Sooner or later Europe could be in to assimilate the Russian Federation, just because the latter will be dried out due to not selling enough to foreign customers (I don't count that much on China or India, ftm, because both could easily switch sides without any hassle).
In my opinion, the Empire already has died, not economically yet but morally for sure. They just refuse to accept defeat and they (TPTB) are desperate enough to engage in a full-blown war to just extend the period of dying.
Putin doesn't want Europe.
Too many Jihadi Muslims there for his taste.
The Russians have been under the Zios in the past. They're not returning there no matter what the hell they have to do.
All this talk about Russian lack of oil sales is irrelevant. They'd plant their fields by hand if they had to - and be proud they didn't need the "help" of the Zios to do it.
It's way too late for a Zio takeover of Russia now - Putin is a bonifide Russian Prince. The Russian people are enjoying their own Augustus.
He's here to stay - and the Zios will have to suck on it, like it or not.
I wonder if Obama will have the balls to confront Putin in Syria. Bombing wedding parties and taking hairy arsed Russians is something else.
Tehran and Cairo relations.
Iran is really playing this up. I don't think the US/UK has anyone listening anymore. Tick-tock.
It seems everyone that takes Obama's money gets left out in the cold.
What are things going to be like once the yuan is as desirable as the dollar?
What is the Egyptian military government going to charge the US for that continued disconnection?
Expensive and temporary.
Funny thing is fast forward 12 months if things go a little south then you can see Russia putting missiles in Syria like Cuba in '62.
There goes Israel's zero-azimuth nuke strike policy.
Reckless, but then again the hysterical part is keeping Obama/Kerry guessing.
I think the idea is to give Obama a nervous breakdown in his last year.
It's purely a psych-war siege against Obama's head and addictions going forward.
Putin is betting nobody can hold their breath for 15 months.
We do live in intersting times.
Not so, honestly, aliens still required.
"Krugman's paroxysm" ?
The hell is that?
It's like a shart.
In Krugman's own words... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CgAUW_zcN9k
Wonder how much crank Barry is snorting now
Snoring crank does not need - provided in form of presidential suppository.
Excellent!
Out in the cold: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xiNzJR96-IQ
One of the best live performances I've ever seen. Enjoy!
Only the Defenders of the Faith tour in 1984 was better.
" and with both US and Russian warplanes already flying back and forth above Syria, and now both superpowers having a legitimate, if only in the eyes of their own media, justification to dispatch land troops,"
No, sweetie. The USA were ILLEGITIMATELY in Syria, whereas Russia is perfectly entitled to be, as it was invited by Syria's elected government.
What part of illegal/illegitimate US intervention don't you understand?
But Assad must go.
Why he must and who told you that?
I never see that answered just " he is a butcher" for what defending his country? He may be the worlds biggest asshole, but he did live there when the shooting kicked off = his country...
Yep, US thinks they have legitimate authority over any nations sovereignty. They don't
USAF & Co. are just undocumented guest workers.
As every armchair general knows, you can't win a war with air strikes alone, you have to put boots on the ground {where have we heard that before?}, you have to take and hold land.
The Krasukha-4 broadband multifunctional jamming station is mounted on a BAZ-6910-022 four-axle-chassis. Like the Krasukha-2, the Krasukha-4 counters AWACS and other air borne radar systems. The Krasukha-4 has the range for effectively disrupting low Earth orbit (LEO) satellites and can cause permanent damage to targeted radio-electronic devices. Ground based radars are also a viable target for the Krasukha-4.
Hard to say what MIC has in their bag of tricks (seems like they've been pouring money into worthless boondoggles like the F-35 program and laser cannons that are useless versus hardened targets).
The Russians meanwhile have invested in very high tech Electronic Warfare Systems (EWS) including upgraded radar (stealth detection), jamming and EMP weapons. They have effectively neutralized some of NATO's advantages on the battlefield.
Just as I make the above comment I find this.
More bad news for the F-35 program.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3260675/Pilots-eject-new-350bill...
Ah yes - the pregnant stinger bug, otherwise known as the F-35.
USAF vet and ex-Catholic here, not religious really but definitely believe in God, and what the Bible teaches about righteousness.
Speaking only as an American, I would not want to start a war, or be dragged into a war, unless I had my moral house in order and could ask God to bless my martial endeavors. To my thinking, good weapons are important to victory, but victory is given only by God.
After all of the evil the U.S. has wrought in the world, both home and abroad, for the past 40-50 years, "God bless America" is NOT what I think will happen if we go full-WWIII.
Just MHO.
Leon Panetta said that it would be a 30 year war with ISIS,thats right the MIC was prepared to let these scum run around for 30 years whilst they get the big bucks to supposedly fund a war against them,has the US military become a scam?At leasts putins military isn't run by lawyers,accountants and the criminally insane.
How can Putin win? He doesn't have any females, homosexuals or transgenders among his fighting forces. His troops have not taken countless hours of sensitivty training. They have not taken their God away. How could they possibly win?
https://www.rt.com/news/317715-russian-jets-isis-syria/
If the Russian AF is coordinating its strikes, such that they are based not only on their or satellite intel, but also on ground intel and real time feedback from the Syrian Army, and are using EWS against ISIS, then these coordinated attacks are an innovative Game Changer in ME battles: BLITZKRIEG 2.0
The US, having grossly alienated almost everyone in the ME, i.e. outside of the seats of corrupted power (people who were either pre-aligned, bribed or blackmailed to begin with), cannot match this winning formula. If they were foolish enough to initiate any kind of ground offensive, it would be mostly symbolic, rather than effective on a large area.
If the Russian-Syrian forces, perhaps aided by Hezbollah fighters can drive out ISIS just as fast as they rolled in, then the ME calculus of the DOD and State Dept has been thrown out the window. In which case they will have a lot of "splaining to do"* to the US public and global audience.
* Ricky: Luuuucy, get down heeeere. You got a lot of splaining to do".
Hate to say it, but no they won't. Their media will just be silent on it.
The Revolution is absolutely grass roots or not at all.
Don't forget to keep your eye on that other shell (China) that's moving around while you're preoccupied with all the excitement between Russia and the U.S.
Not to mention Iran's ground forces moving in.
All I've read is ZH rumors to this effect.
Please provide info/sources from Syrian of Iranian government sources.
Putin, ignore these CLOWNS, and do what needs to be done...KICK SUM BUTTY!
ground war?...sure you have the stomach for it?...be waiting for you
Somebody should tell the hospital bomber that the Russians really are better at this stuff. Just take a week off and go golf.
It will too hard to take. Really.
Where are all the loud mouth war mongering callers from years past ?
Cunts...
Didn;t you get the memo? They all went and volunteer for the IDF, like their hero, dual-citizen Rahm "never let a crisis go to waste" Emmanuel.
OH FUCK YEAH! This is gettin good now!
Or are mulling doing so...
https://www.rt.com/news/317715-russian-jets-isis-syria/
This combined with the Kurds & Iraqi's wanting to join Russia's coalition spells bad news for the US, Turkey & KSA.
Assad invited Russia. US is not.
Russia can send its nuclear bombs to isis ass for all i care. US is not. Period.
I would not put it past the 'indispensable and exceptional' lunatics in the US to escalate. (It reminds me of another people that thought they were 'uber alles').
The East (Russia, Iran, China, Iraq, with the rest of the SCO and BRICS) will not bend their knees to the West.
The age to Western dominace is over.
The US and its Anglosphere and EU vassals cannot defeat the East.
The US had better give up its designs to rule the world or it will bring on the biggest catestrophe in human history.
The US had better give up its designs to rule the world or it will bring on the biggest catestrophe in human history.
Well said. Unfortunately there are some really crazy fuckers in power in the USA who WANT this to happen since they think it will bring about the "end times" and the return of Jesus. I am not kidding . . . .
This, coming from the country that bombed a hospital and killed a few dozen civilians and doctors. Fuck them.
pour it on vlad. american decadence is just as much an enemy here as ISIS, probably the creature af america.
I keep repeating this but are 3/11, 3rd of November, and 5/11, of November, of this year dates for false flag attacks?
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-01-10/surreal-sinister-world-2015-according-economist
The area around the fletching is labelled 11.5 and 11.3, and you know how the fuckers like to advertise their massive false flag attacks in advance. 9/11 was all over Hollywood films and American TV shows before 9/11 actually happened.
Given China, Russia, Iran and the BRICS are trying to replace the Anglo-Zionist banking system, giving that to many people are waking up to the sham that is the War on Terror and 9/11, and giving shit is going down in Syria with the US and Russia potentially squaring up. Is now the time for an act of desperation by the Zionists by unleashing false flag attacks on a scale equal to or far greater than 9/11?
The Zionists must have something up their sleeve as their plans right now for the Middle East are blowing up in their face.
The image in question if you can't find the link.
https://socioecohistory.files.wordpress.com/2015/01/economist_magazine_jan2015.jpg
9/11 was all over Hollywood films and American TV shows before 9/11 actually happened . . .
9-23 was also all over EVERYTHING and look how that (didn't) turn out . . . TPTB are definitely into numerology though. Look how many important dates of infamy have fallen on days with the numbers 7, 11 or 22 . . .
London bombings - 7/7
JFK assassination - 11/22
World Trade Center/Pentagram - 9/11
Fukishima - 3/11
About 9/23...
check out Zach Hubbard on Utube...
It would seem that today, Oct 6th corresponds to 9/23 since we switched from Gregorian to Julian calendars a couple hundred years ago...
What we were expecting on 9/23 may very well happen today...
Just sayin'
Re-capturing Palmyra from the CIA headchopper brigades would be a fantastic 1st step fot this new Russian/Syrian alliance. Would show the world who is on the side of right & on the side of civilisation.
So, the US launches attacks against Syria and gets upset when someone defsnds them?
You Americans need to Change your Government.
It is Corrupt. By God and Heaven it is Corrpupt.
Allah-u-snackbar
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQOM0ZXKJmo
Check this one out. Russian fighter pilot steps out of plane, signs an autograph and slaps down a five on the ground controller. Pimp.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=epYg_8TpW9g
Spread democracy and 'freedom' in the middle east:
33% of Libyans suffer from mental trauma.
70% of yemenis suffer from hunger
Over 500k Iraqis dead.
Over 250k syrians dead 11 million displaced.
Art,Is that figure of 500,000 including the 500,000 children that was worth it according to MAD Albright?
no
"While the US was been surprised and angered by the stunningly fast turn of events in Syria where in the span of less than a month Russia unleashed a massive, Syria-based airborne campaign against what it says are ISIS terrorists..."
Translation: US is all fucking butt hurt because Putin put an end to the US Jobs Program called "War On Terror". Ole Wolfowitz and the other Zio-scumbags never wanted to fight terrorism. They just wanted to go from one country to another over there and blow shit up, kill people and then send in their guys to do the rebuilding. WOT can now be seen for what it is a fucking jobs program and Welfare for the Zio controlled MIC.
USA is all butt hurt because Putin is handing Team B it's fucking ass over there... Because Team A as well as Team B have been armed and trained by USA, Turkey, Jordan, Saudi Arabia, Egypt and Israel, both teams being managed by those members to play the game of WOT and to line the pockets of all the scumbag countries involved....USA is all butt hurt because now Pootie Poot is laughing his fucking ass off at USA...he's the good guy now, fighting the "terrorists"....USA is left on the side lines holding the water bucket.
NATO (Breedlove) was just fucking neutered by the settlement with Putin in the three hour meeting with Obama. Can you say "complete capituation" in Ukraine?
I knew you coud.
You spout ignorant drivel and are a waste of pixels.
Jeez you're worse than an idiot with a bird...
Robert of Ottawa - your contributions are at the base level of Graham's hierarchy of argument. You could instead try refuting the points raised by others using evidence and logical argument.
If you have an enquiring mind check out
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Graham%27s_Hierarchy_of_Disagree...
and
http://www.paulgraham.com/disagree.html
But mustering counterarguments is probably too challenging for you ?
He might really be "of Ottawa", and work for the government of Canada. That would explain it...
Whoa LMAO!!
ISIS Suffers Disastrous Defeat in Deir EzzorFrom that article: "...ISIS sent two waves of fighters towards the contested army base (southern perimeter of the airport); however, the charging terrorists were overwhelmed by the fierce resistance from the Syrian Arab Army and the relentless aerial assault by the Russian Air Force."
Things are going according to plan :-)
If Russians are tracking the movement of ISIS assets and arms (via drones and satellites), then there is literally no place to run or hide.
Especially if Syrian and other ground forces are working this in sync.
Blitzkrieg 2.0
When the Russians trace back to ISIS real HQ's in Tel Aviv and DC, will they continue the air campaign?
God I hope so.
Let it burn.
and Russia accuses the US of Fucking Everything Up! So there...
OMG!!! Russia Aiding Syria!!!!
Pssst.. ..USSA ZIO-SCUMMM* prefers its intended victims to be defenseless - and served-up kosher on a silver-platter, a la Iraq or Libya
(SCUMMM* -Satanic Cabal Underwriting Mass-Murder & Mayhem)
looks like its gonna be BRIICS pretty soon
BRAIL,RUSSIA, INDIA,IRAN,CHINA,SYRIA
MORE ALPHABETS TO BE ADDED SOON
Putin might want to be careful, if he shows what an efficient military operation looks like, he might shame the US military into showing one, too.
I'd worry about that if the US had learned a single god damn lesson from Vietnam.
The US military's capabilities are almost as great as its leadership is small.
It doesn't work that way in real life, unfortunately...
But fighting in desert is very different from fighting in canopy jungle.
How bent is the moral compass - The USA has so lost the the plot. I for one Im cheering on the Rusisians.
Must be true. You said it twice.
How bent is the moral compass - The USA has so lost the the plot. I for one Im cheering on the Rusisians.
I wonder what odds they are giving on who suffers the first shootdown.
Well, well, well,
O'Bomba will juss haff to send in the ships, planes and troops to Syria, soon, if only to prove he's not a weenie-armed poosie like nearly everyone's accusing him of being....
Putin's up for a real fight - it's payback time for the collapse of the Soviet Union!
Seems Putin picks his battles a little more carefully. The indiscriminte bombing of civilians for resources and the fossil-dollar are the US's Forté.
According to Debka: With Russia’s Dep. Army Chief due in Israel, Moscow posts 64 S-300 ship-to-air missiles off Syria, N. Israel - Russia’s deputy chief of staff, Gen. Nikolay Bogdanovsky, accompanied by a large military delegation, arrives in Israel for a two-day visit on Tuesday, Oct. 6, to discuss increased coordination between the two militaries. However, Moscow seems to be sending Jerusalem an altogether different message: Friday, Oct. 2, the Russian Defense Ministry announced the surprise deployment of Navy cruiser, the Moskva, armed with 64 advanced anti-aircraft missiles S-300 ship-to-air missiles opposite the Syrian coastal town of Latakia.
LOL. Yahoo will bunched his knickers.
ya they are on the ships... Israel can be a no fly zone in 15 minutes
I have to give Putin a lot of credit. After the fucking he took over the coup in Ukraine he was patient for the opportunity to get even with Negropolean. And Magic boy played right into his hands right down to the Iranian deal to free up their cash. Great strategist
Everyone keeps saying he's playing chess on Obama's checker board, but he isn't. He's playing Go.
Nah, Putin's Russian - it'd be chess alright.
Xi now, that crafty mofo is playing Go. Still waiting to see his hand - other than slowly, slowly. Wonder what his tipping point will be.
Usually when a government invites the US military onboard..either troops or support personnel stay for years...looks like Russia now has a foothold in the Middle East..and will probably stay for years..
Nope. Putin is taking out IS and leaving the mop up to Syria Hezbollah and Iran. Exit strategy.
And remind me please, just what country ever EVER invited the US to interfere.
As in at least a quasi-free and sovereign state?
Damn, that should be a Jeopardy answer.
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Ok.
Britain.
France
and gee lets see now...
RUSSIA.
Apparently you don't know much about WW2 and the fact that the US and Russia were great allies in defeating the Nazis.
In fact, isn't Putin currently moaning that Russia has to do all the fighting and would welcome the US et al to come help "interfere" in the fight with ISIS?
BTW. The guyabove is 100% correct. Putin is there for a very long and expensive amount of time -- unless he pulls an Afghanistan (which would be smart)
Evidently you havn't groked the fact that at the time the US, Britan, France and the USSR were all Bolshevek ruled nations. Now that Russia is the only major Christian nation, it makes sense that they are at total war with the Anglo-Zionist Empire.
Hitler's Germany not so much.
Putin is fully informed and motivated with this point of view. And he hates and blames the Western Jewish Powers for destroying Russia, killing 20 million or so Russian Christians and generally fucking the country over for 70 years.
Go Vlad!
"BTW. The guyabove is 100% correct. Putin is there for a very long and expensive amount of time -- unless he pulls an Afghanistan (which would be smart) "
Doubt that very much. Putin will want to mop this this up fast and brutal-like.
Then he'll drop his forces down to the garrison level at Tartus and Latakia. Don't think he'll have troops in Damascus - too emasculating for Assad and Putin is too adept at the game to make that mistake. But his forces won't be in Syria for long.
They'll be there permanently.
"...what country ever EVER invited the US to interfere"?
KSA and Kuwait. Sort of.
But only after Saddam Hussein threatened to attack Kuwait, if they did not cease and desist in their horizontal drilling into Iraq.
But this assumes that the Bush Sr and the US did not put Kuwaiti oil companies up to it in the first place, to create the "Sucker Punch" scenario and pretext to attack Iraq: Saddam actually rolling into Kuwait.
Right after the Iraqi soldiers starting bayoneting infants and throwing them from the incubators. Or was it after the Saddam masterminded the destruction of the 3 towers?
Putin: We just need to have forward observers so that we do not carry out sustained air assaults on civilian hospitals!
Why don't the chinks send 500k troops to hold shit down there? That would be fucking hilarious. Syria and Iraq, send 500k chinks.
payback for the shit the u s has pulled on china
An hour later, they'll want 500k more.
Time for some regime cha-...
...nevermind.
Droogs,
First, no one here is there, or has been there in the fight, speaking Russian, or Arabic, or fucking Eubonics. If you have, speak fucking up.
Second, that means no one here really knows what the fuck is true, there. A monkey in the White house could read a webpage and tell you what was in it. We don't fucking need that here.
Third, any one in the U.S. MS media, the U.S. government and by extension the U.S. military are LIARS. Repeat - LIARS.
That includes any one else in the fight (Russia, Assad, ISIS, Al Ciaduh, Israel, Turkey, and their media).
The point is, we really do not know the truth and we are fed bullshit to argue about. Again, if you have good intel, speak up. If you don't, go fucking get it.
Raise the fucking intel game here!
If wishes were horses mouth grow mushrooms...
If wishes were fishes we'd all be casting our nets.
We are all in the dark. Go get your own Intel. We understand that this is narrative. That's why we go straight to comments. I learn more from posters here than fucking Bloomberg. You have another source of info for us to check?
Note to Obama and his gay generals: watch Syria closely! This is how you actually fight a war to WIN it!
Let's not be too harsh on our "gay generals" . They don't have to fight on the battlefield. They don't have to be tough and manly. I'm sure their "gayness" will be a source of inspiration to our troops who are impressed with the moral courage their leaders displayed in rising to the top -despite the effects of anti-gay discrimination. Yes they likely slept their way to the top -good looking lesbos with Hillary and our gay man generals with Obama and/or his gay cabal -but it's no different with heteros. What the hell -a gay run military? May be a first in human history. Why not give it a shot.
A 'bottom' rises to the 'top'? A catcher turns into a picther?
What the actual fuck?
hopefully China will show up soon.... now that TPP is signed there is no reason not to roast USA
Hmmmm.....
Here is the problem...
Syria is a sovergn state, they can have treaties and agreements with whomever they like.
If they want to invite the Russian Air Force and Russian Army into their country to do what ever, THAT IS THEIR BUSINESS.
What it most certainly is NOT, is any of America's (UK's, Holland's, Italy's, Canada's etc...) business.
Why The Fuck can't Washington get that threw their thick skulls?
Why the fuck doesn't the American population FORCE their congress to recognize this?
Its seems obvious from those of us on the outside looking in.
Squid
Assad is a competent leader, he is not so stupid to invite the source of the terrotists to defeat the same terrorists they have sent. America is so full if shit it makes ones head spin.