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Syria Ground War Imminent? U.S. Accuses Russia Of Launching Syrian Land Campaign
While the US was been surprised and angered by the stunningly fast turn of events in Syria where in the span of less than a month Russia unleashed a massive, Syria-based airborne campaign against what it says are ISIS terrorists, even as the US accuses Putin of targeting "moderate rebels", it has had little recourse in accusing Putin of violating Syrian sovereignty: after all Russia is the only nation that Syria has officially invited to eradicate the "terrorist threat" that is ISIS.
Then, last Friday, Syria raised the stakes once again, when as Bloomberg reported a loyalist of the Assad regime said "terrorism cannot only be fought from the air," making an appeal for more military involvement to defeat Islamic State.
In a defiant speech at the United Nations General Assembly in New York, Syrian Foreign Minister Walid al-Muallem criticized the current approach to fighting the group that has conquered swathes of territory and was encroaching on President Bashar al-Assad’s coastal stronghold in Latakia. Those gains triggered Russian intervention.
“Air strikes are useless unless they are coordinated with the Syrian Arab army, the only force to combat terrorism,” al-Muallem, who also holds the title of deputy prime minister, told a largely empty assembly hall on Friday, the last day of speeches.
The logical implication is that Syria will next invite, if it hasn't already done so, Russian troops to join the Russian airforce in eradicating the great ISIS strawman which until recently was the pretext for "coalition" forces to bombard Syria with complete disregard for Syrian sovereignty, and the intention of destroying Assad's military so the CIA can conclude a regime change with a pro-western leader, one which will permit the passage of a Qatar gas pipeline.
Whether or not this assessment is accurate is irrelevant, because earlier today the US decided to jump right on it, and as CNN reported, accordint to the latest U.S. assessment of Moscow's activity in western Syria, "Russia has moved several ground combat weapons and troops into the area to potentially back up Syrian forces in the field planning to attack anti-regime forces, according to two U.S. defense officials."
The U.S. views the move as Russia "stepping up its ground activity" in Syria to attack those forces, rather than ISIS elements, according to one of the officials.
It's believed the Russians are positioning the weapons to be able to support a Syrian ground offensive, the officials said.
The equipment includes several piece of artillery, as well as four BM-30 multiple-launch rocket systems -- all considered to be highly accurate weapons. The latter is capable of rapid-fire rocket launches. Several weeks ago, Russia moved about half a dozen artillery pieces into Latakia port.
The U.S. originally had thought that might be for defense of the port, but the latest move is an indication of potential ground attacks in the coming days, the official said. The weapons have been spotted between Homs and Idlib and west of Idlib.
It is not clear if they're now in final position for possible artillery strikes.
The officials also said that Russia has moved electronic jamming equipment into Syria. Both a truck-mounted system and a number of pods that can go on aircraft have been observed. This could potentially give the Russians the ability to jam electronics of coalition aircraft.
Naturally, when playing the diplomatic game, one never admits or denies one's true intentions until well after the fact, and moments ago the speaker of the Russian Federation Valentina Matviyenko denied. According to Interfax, Matviyenko said Russia has no intention of taking part in ground operations in Syria.
"We do not intend, and we will not engage in any ground operations" said Matvienko in the meeting with the head of Jordan's Senate president Abdelraouf al-Rawabdeh. She stressed that the Russian air campaign in Syria is to support the actions of the regular Syrian army against terrorists.
Which, ironically, is the excuse for US presence in Syria too.
What happens next? A very likely course of events is that despite Russia's denials, the Pentagon will use the gambit of a Russian ground campaign, credible or not, to get permission from Congress to send a "small", at first, then bigger ground force of US troops in Syria to, you guessed it, "fight ISIS", but really to do everything to prevent Russian troops from taking over key strategic positions.
What happens then? Well, with the previously discussed Russian naval blockade of Syria as a likely next step, and with both US and Russian warplanes already flying back and forth above Syria, and now both superpowers having a legitimate, if only in the eyes of their own media, justification to dispatch land troops, what was until now a mere proxy war is about to become full blown land combat on Syrian soil, one which will soon involve both Russian and US ground, sea and airborne forces.
The last missing step will be when US cruisers, destroyers and/or battleships park next to the Syrian coastline, within earshot (and every other "shot") away from comparable Russian warships. Keep tabs on the weekly US naval update, because once several US warships weigh anchor in the vicinity of Syria that will be the catalyst for the next and final escalation.
At that point, the world will be one false flag away from what some could call another world war, only this time one launched not in Serbia but Syria.
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Not true
Assad has allowed Syria to be a dumping ground for Iran's terrorists for a hell of a long time
So thats what you get when you harbor snakes in your bosum
Bread and Circuses.
That and the fact that any patriots in America are waiting for two things:
1. For the regime to weaken even further.
2. For leadership. There isn't any to date.
the time is right for Americans to turn on themselves. I hope China and Russia buy all the silver in the world and more... to avert WW3.... in two days... we don't have to worry about USA... people there will be killing each other like zombies
now that TPP is done there is no need for China to prop up the US ponzi dollar any longer
"the time is right for Americans to turn on themselves."
Not yet Omega_Man, just beneficial for the rest of the world if they did.
The time will be right when TPTB let their power slip a touch, probably through an even heavier collapse of the US.
Sooner or later the people are going to go hungry. That's when the time will be right for the Americans - not before.
Obviously, Russia needs ground support to keep their aircraft operating, but there is no need for more ground troops, because Syria, Hezbollah and Iran can provide plenty of highly motivated fighters to go after pockets of ISIS resistance. There is another, potentially huge problem brewing. What happens to all these Islamic fanatics once they are forced out of Syria/Iraq? There is plenty of fertile ground for them to operate close by- in the Gulf monarchies and possibly Jordan and Turkey. Can you say Blowback?
I doubt very much if this situation will spiral into a wider war; more than that, I would be surprised and finally I would be amazed - it just ain't gonna happen...
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Meanwhile this is AKA "boots on the ground" -- or in this case, quicksand...
Kadyrov asks Putin to allow Chechen infantry to fight in Syria The head of the Chechen Republic has asked the Russian president to send Chechen units to fight Islamic State (IS, formerly ISIS/ISIL) in Syria, adding that his fighters have sworn to fight terrorists till the end.“This is not idle talk, I am asking for permission to go there and participate in special operations,” Ramzan Kadyrov said in the Friday interview with the RSN radio. “Being a Muslim, a Chechen and a Russian patriot I want to say that in 1999 when our republic was overrun with these devils we swore on the Koran that we would fight them wherever they are,” the Chechen leader said.
Might be true but if so it's surprising. Russia lliterally fllattened Chechnya over the course of two wars (I'm not saying they were right or wrong) but as such it''s hard to see many Chechens as 'loyal Russians'.
Ramzan Kadyrov who is the leader of Chechnya is loyal to Moscow and Russian Federation. He has a lot of power in Chechnya.
"The equipment includes several pieces of artillery, as well as four BM-30 multiple-launch rocket systems -- Several weeks ago, Russia moved about half a dozen artillery pieces into Latakia port."
Don't forget several tanks. They all don't add up to very much and strike me as defensive weapons to protect the airbase and associated facilities.
So..just so I'm clear....
This article is based on something that Bloomberg reported?
An d..we're off to the comments.
Controlled opposition folks. Enter at your own risk.
look how the tpp is done before war starts in syria
be nice for china to land in usa
Anyday now you will have the U.S. Govt claiming that Russia and China are launching ground wars in Alaska.
Ha Ha
Good one
You do know that it part of the end game don't you
No joke, it will happen, Perestroika was just a ruse
The conflict in Georgia of 2008 and the conflict in Ukraine are proxy wars. So is the war in Syria but now both opposing sides have military hardware active in Syria and possibly now on the ground then. The risk of an accident is already big enough then but the possibility of some staged event becomes real now.
We know when Obama is beat when he starts trying to change the headlines---he is said to be close to proposing "Quasi Gun Control" by Executive Order. That should get everybody's mind off the "Red Line" in the Syrian sand.
Reggie: Why is your dick so limp tonight,Bath House?
I dunno
You have to laugh at US propaganda...Russia doesnt need to send in ground troop....Iran is doing that and Hezbollah is also there, both supporting Syrian ground troops. Also the Chechen President has asked Putin's permission to join the ground fight...(they need to get the invite from Syria first) but they definately dont take any prisoners. Have fun matching them US! For a detailed reason why Putin got militarily involved...it was because the US via Turkey were inking a deal for their own no-fly zone via US access to Incirlik...here is the link: http://www.globalresearch.ca/putins-blitz-leaves-washington-rankled-and-... All this US blathering shows 2 things: They havent given up on destroying Syria, and they will do anything to start a war with Russia.
If Vlad lets the Chechen's in, there will be no Daesh left alive.
Wait till the Chinese get in there as well...
What I find fascinating is that Russia spent so many years arming and supporting the Ba'thists (Saddam) in Iraq, and they were a Sunni minority in charge over the Shi'a Majority.
And when the US and the coalition overthrew Saddam, many of those Ba'thist Sunnis turned to Zarqawi (the creator of what is now ISIS, and who's ideology of Takfirism, they follow). ISIS made pacts with former Ba'thist leaders like Izzat Ibrahim Al-Duri (killed last April in Tikrit).
It's been long known that the Syrian Ba'thists (primarily Alawite/Shi'ites) had no love for Saddam and they constantly tried to undermine one another..
So ironically, now we have Russia aligning with the Shi'a against their former Sunni allies in Iraq.
And it will likely pave the way for Persian Iranians to gain predominance in the region, which will piss off the majority Sunni even more..
I'm not sure that Putin understands what he's getting his country into.. r whether it will be worth the cost..
Scrutinizer
I think Vlad just wants to kill the terrists.
That's all I would do.
NEIN NEIN NEIN!
Russia just wants a foothold in the ME
And now finaly, they got it
Open door and all
Got to play the terrorists against each other properly
hope ya know!
This is an algo/bot? Or if not, it's the most perfect example of "this is your brain on propaganda" I've ever seen.
MDB shivers in his shoes thinking of competing with this algo if you ask me.
I thought Putin was doing deals with Iraq, as well. I think he doesn't buy into the Baptist vs. Catholic paradigm introduced by Bush-Cheney pundits.
The behind the scenes question, from what I've read is, how is Obama's handler, Brzezinski, with a lust for Russian blood going to direct this scenario?
It appears that Vladimir waited until the US was out of steam to make his move. With China's war ships joining the Russian flotilla, and Brzezinski's loyalties outside the US, how much American and Syrian blood will be spilled to satiate his revenge?
when will Americans take the nation back from zionist invaders?
When Netflix goes down and the Budweiser trucks stop.
Touche!
Well obviously the invaders have outsmarted the Americans.
When they are literally starving for food.
I think you mean "drop anchor". Keep making those mistakes, that's how we know it's you.
Since we are playing word games, I want to point out that no ship will park or drop anchor under those conditions. They will remain "underway" all the tim, and very possibly "at battle stations" most of the time.
The writer is correct to anticipate that the next move by the USA will increase the tension in this brewing confrontation.
There is no "legitimate" place fror American forces to land in Syria. That won't stop them, of course. But it is more likely that US forces will enter Syria from Turkey, possibly from Iraq; and that they will ener to the eastern part of Syria, currently contested by Kurds and ISIS.
Dude
aint gonna happn
"We have to save Syria From Russian invaders".
I want to point out that no ship will park or drop anchor under those conditions. They will remain "underway" all the tim, and very possibly "at battle stations" most of the time.
Citation, please.
Real world -- our Marine Expeditionary Unit's job in the first Gulf War was to feint an amphibious assault. We steamed north and south, dropping anchor at the boundaries of our area each time. If you can drop anchor in mined waters of a war zone, you can drop anchor in unmined waters of a danger zone.
I know this is late but don't want anyone to be misinformed.
(2003)
US launches Ground War in Iraq.
Saddam's WMDs must be desstoyed!
The odd thing about certain chemical weapons is, given the right equipment, you can mass produce them in a very short period of time. I really do wih I had access to my library. I've got a couple of books on the subject, notably German chemical weapon production.
When you say "coalition," exactly to whom do you refer?
like the crips and bloods getting together
CO A LISHUN
Just visit Yellowstone National Park in the summer, and you'll know that the Chinese are already here.
Soros' open borders policies have already done in America, and without too many shots being fired. It's all just a matter of time now, before Americans realize that they've been had. Think The Hunger Games or 1984 and you'll know what the world is going to be like, very soon.
$0.02
"Soros' open borders policies have already done in America, and without too many shots being fired. "
That was the whole idea. And by the way it's not just America, it's every White country. Look who's welcoming the current invasion of Europe. http://www.supportrefugees.org.uk/about/
lets see where do we start, msm, you can keep your doctor, and current ins. plan., ins. premiuns will drop 20%.
the people in Syria driving around in American military vehicles, with American weapons, killing Christians, slaughtering, and raping, beheading Syrian citizens, are moderate rebels.
a ground war in Syria is inimment, duh, putin has had a ground war going on for two weeks, and is ridding isis, which just a month ago, was the worlds #1enemy.
this is as ground war as it's going to get, what country in the world outside the me. are going to put their boots on the ground in Syria, especially with the obvious weakening of isis?
Goebbels would be impressed.
the last thing Israel, sa.,Qatar,eau,baharan, is a ground war, Russia would go home after neutralizing isis, and the us would be forced to go home also even the msm couldn't control that spin, why is the us still I me..
I think I understood what you wrote but I'm only writing this confirmation to you because I'm drunk.
A stretch? Maybe.
American soldiers owe it to thier oath and to thier countryman to refuse to fight these criminal wars.
Until they do they are cowards not heros.
The special forces operating in Syria should be hung along side the politicians.
Mercenary =/= Hero.
Mercenary =/= Patriot
Colonial infantry =/= Liberator
US corp/gov/media =/= Truth
This article really truly reaches a far distance in crazy logic to support a thesis of a ground war in Syria. We rapidl;y move from a few Rusian artillery pieces being delivered to a full complement of Russian troops backed by a Syrian diplomat who said that Syria has the only legal army operating in Syria and is supported by Russian air power. Big jump from there to the Russian Army is Coming! And as for the prospect that Americans will unleash ground troops beyond special ops into Syria is pure fantasy. Don't know who ZH's sources are but in this case they weave quite a tale of fiction.
World war 3 imminent
Armageddon
Everything mention in Revelation will come true.
Choose your side:
1. Homophile ,ungodly, satanic, greedy, evil, materialistic , exploitative west
2. God loving , pro poor , upright , conservative rest (Russia, China, Iran, BRICS)
"God loving , pro poor"
HA HA HA :D You made my day! :D
Life under criminal putin regime can get absurd. But in same time it’s an example how North Korea get to it’s absurd regime. Where everything is upside down and hate propaganda rules the day. I guess Russians are going that direction.
Look, putin regime with it’s propaganda announcing that Western products are banned and should be replaced with local products or imported from other countries. Those Western products that are found in shops are destroyed on site in most bizarre situation – like running over 3 packages of ducks meat and burning 50 ducklings.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S4uVcptN1Lo
Russian officials 'burn 50 ducklings smuggled across Ukraine border'
And that Russia will survive all sanction even if that means to live without food.
Kremlin hard-liner: Russians would 'rather starve' than surrender Putin to Western aggressors
That is what putin regime elite & it’s controlled propaganda telling to Russians.
Now, in same time putin regime elite is buying Western Luxus products
Vladimir Putin's spokesman in luxury watch scandal; Russian bloggers cry corruption after Kremlin press secretary flashes £400,000 timepiece at his wedding
Travels to Western countries with Western Luxury yachts:
After Wristwatch Scandal, Putin’s Spokesman Grilled Over Luxury Yacht
Sends their children to study in Western schools and lives in Western countries:
Educating Their Children Abroad Is the Russian Elite's Guilty Secret
They don’t use Russian medical services but instead for some reason they choose Western medical treatment.
Russians Should Show Mercy to Kobzon
Of course they can offered it because they steal money from Russians 24/7
16 Eye-Popping Examples Of Alleged Corruption At The Sochi Olympics
Russia Awards Lucrative Crimea Bridge Contract to Putin's Crony
In normal country this would not be possible as people would protest against stealing their money and for these double standards putin regime lives in. But under putin regime rule – there isn’t such problem for elite because criminal putin regime just like hitler is in control over mass media in Russia:
How the Media Became One of Putin’s Most Powerful Weapons
And putin regime propaganda even attacks Western world:
Bad news for Putin as support for war flags beyond Russia’s ‘troll farms’
Woman who sued pro-Putin Russian 'troll factory' gets one rouble in damages
So here you go – people in Russia is living in crazy world under putin regime hate and lies propaganda. I just hope they will wake up before they are not led to North Korea style regime. But for one thing I am sure – there will be revolution in Russia. I just hope people of Russia will win it – not the corrupt elite.
go suck suck your own dick potatoboy no one likes you not even your mother
"I just hope they will wake up before they are not [sic] led to North Korea style regime."
That is very unlikely in my view, although with your incorrect use of a negative in English it's not clear what you mean.
{sigh}
So someone's else war is always bad and your war is good?
I think it's great that criminal putin regime will send Russians to Syria. That will only usher process of putin regime collapse. Lets sit, eat popcorn and watch movie https://youtu.be/4HxydMf3bcM
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet%E2%80%93Afghan_War
By the mid-1980s the Soviet contingent was increased to 108,800 and fighting increased throughout the country, but the military and diplomatic cost of the war to the USSR was high.[9] By mid 1987 the Soviet Union, now under reformist leader Mikhail Gorbachev, announced it would start withdrawing its forces. The final troop withdrawal started on May 15, 1988, and ended on February 15, 1989.
When Gruz 200 will start coming home from Syria with russian without heads - that is when putin regime will collaps. So... Go putin! :D I guess...
"When Gruz 200 will start coming home from Syria with russian without heads"
when you finally would find a job you would finally be able stop shitposting
stupid potatoboy
Apart from the head chopping barbaric Crypt of Saud and the pitbull mob in occupied Palestine who gives a damn what USSA "thinks" any more?
This analysis fails to take account of President Obama's Nobel peace prize. That and a vainglorious personality have paralysed US strategic interests and resulted in the Iran deal and the greatest strategic error in recent US history.
The world appears to be waking up to Western duplicity. The MSM is having trouble convincing its readers/viewers that the propaganda is remotely accurate. Judging by UK bloggers, few are buying the anti Russia stuff. Meanwhile Cameron continues with the buffoonery. Global change is happening.
Thank God - and Al Gore - for the Internet. This awakening would never have happened without it.
How will the US ground troops enter Syria? For that matter how will the West even conduct air raids on targets in Syria? With Russian planes operating in Syria and at the invitation of the government of Syria, Russia has the legitimacy and the power to blow up any military assets and personnel that are not operating under the explicit invitation of and in coordination with the Syrian government. Russia launching military operations in Syria means entire Syria became offlimits to Western military unless they want to risk a direct military confrontation with Russia which can be guaranteed to escalate to a nuclear confrontation reaching Western homelands. I don't know if Obama and US Congress are suicidal, but if they are and US reenters Syria either by land or air, Americans can say good bye to each other, because there is no knowing which part of the US will become a radiation desert first.
Acute observer you are...
already ongoing.
russia destroys rakka,
and west wants to deploy 20.000 rebels of all kinds there.
so russia already makes room for the west troops.
with ~20 different rebel armies + different western air support
some kind of msm-built trap is set up for war and putin is doing something and that doing alone is just welcomed
a totally planned outcome. for years. we turned full orwell with rakka sunday. good luck guys.
The last time a great number of Russian body bags began returning to mother Russia there was a significant change in government. I do not believe Putin wants to repeat the experience.
I take it from the down votes that we have a few who believe Putin wants to repeat the experience. Well I'm all for it.
Agreed, Soviet mothers ended the Afghan adventure. Will they feel different about Syria?
MoHillbilly? The sound of Russian guns? Well alrighty then...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Li58voy6xXM
or perhaps a message to those Langley boys in ISIS
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8jGAfzrdpxo
Only that these Soldier Mothers are a western NGO. And everybody knows that in Russia.
Wouldn't be surprised if the Nobel Peace Prize Prez blew up a civilian passenger plane over turkey and blamed it on Russia. Or bomb a school in Syria and blame Putin.
You didn't bomb that!
Note the following: "according to one of the officials"..."the officials said"..."the official said".."The officials also said".
These type of comments and we all have seen including the following: "according to experts" and one of my personal favorites "said a person familiar with the situation"...all part of a narrative based on the fallacy of the "appeal to an unknown expert". Be informed and teach others to discern these things.
if Russia decides to go ahead with a ground campain, so what? It's none of the US's business, they have not been invited to fight in Syria like Russia have, the US are breaking international law by being in Syria in the first place, Russia are not.
No analysis is worth a damn .... if you don't realize .... Obama is a Muslim .... and believes in exporting Islam to Europe and America ?
Remember what Brezhnev (sp?) told Nixon .... besides, thanks for the Chevy Caprice .... "We white people have got to stick together !" ?
"Mosaic of Facts" (RT Documentary) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bkD8VFOz4-8 If you start at 28:00 and listen at least until 40:00 (12 min.) you'll likely want to watch the entire documentary. The part at 39:00 to 40:00 will break your heart in deep empathy.
At 34:11, check out the "Great Lie" of the west concerning Russia & tanks entering (NOT) into Ukraine at 34:11)
Also, at around 35:24, check out this woman who will not say that the corporate media is directly influenced with the CIA and note what she says "it is a MISTAKE to say that they are" in relation to the corporate media being directly influenced by the regime(s), part of the psyops iow. You can tell this person is afraid; yet her conscience seems to eat at her - you judge. Please pass this around and note that Russia does use similar tactics (all nations do), but at this point the US Media is above and beyond broken.
The only foreign country with a legal basis for being in Syria is Russia. Forget the bullshit narrative you hear from the MSM. America is only there to overthrow the existing government so the Nabucco Pipeline can be built. Civilians (women and children included) have been dying by the hundreds of thousands in Syria for years while the US continued to support the proxy armies that contributed to the instability. None of these so-called moderates you hear about in the MSM are Syrians. They are all foreign (terrorist) mercenaries funded and armed by the CIA to overthrow Assad. Fuck these terrorist maggots. Hope Russian forces kill all of them!!
Russia doesn't need to move in ground troops. Iran is doing that for them:
http://www.csmonitor.com/World/Middle-East/2015/1001/Iran-sends-troops-i...
I saw this story last week on FOX as well as Reuters. With Iranians and Kurds on the ground and Russians in the air, the days are numbered for Al Qaeda and Al Nusra in Syria. ISIS will take a little longer, but they might want to start making travel reservations out of the country.