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CIA, Saudis To Give "Select" Syrian Militants Weapons Capable Of Downing Commercial Airliners
Wednesday brought a veritable smorgasbord of “new” information about the Russian passenger jet which fell out of the sky above the Sinai Peninsula last weekend.
First there was an audio recording from ISIS’ Egyptian affiliate reiterating that they did indeed “down” the plane. Next, the ISIS home office in Raqqa (or Langley or Hollywood) released a video of five guys sitting in the front yard congratulating their Egyptian “brothers” on the accomplishment.
Then the UK grounded air traffic from Sharm el-Sheikh noting that the plane “may well” have had an “explosive device” on board.
Finally, US media lit up with reports that according to American “intelligence” sources, ISIS was probably responsible for the crash.
Over the course of the investigation, one question that’s continually come up is whether militants could have shot the plane down. Generally speaking, the contention that ISIS (or at least IS Sinai) has the technology and/or the expertise to shoot down a passenger jet flying at 31,000 feet has been discredited by “experts” and infrared satellite imagery.
But that’s nothing the CIA can’t fix.
With the Pentagon now set to deploy US ground troops to Syria (and indeed they may already be there, operating near Latakia no less), Washington is reportedly bolstering the supply lines to “moderate” anti-regime forces at the urging of (guess who) the Saudis and Erdogan.
Incredibly, some of the weapons being passed out may be shoulder-fire man-portable air-defense systems, or Manpads, capable of hitting civilian aircraft.
But don’t worry, those will only be given to “select rebels.” Here’s more from WSJ:
The U.S. and its regional allies agreed to increase shipments of weapons and other supplies to help moderate Syrian rebels hold their ground and challenge the intervention of Russia and Iran on behalf of Syrian President Bashar al-Assad, U.S. officials and their counterparts in the region said.
The deliveries from the Central Intelligence Agency, Saudi Arabia and other allied spy services deepen the fight between the forces battling in Syria, despite President Barack Obama’s public pledge to not let the conflict become a U.S.-Russia proxy war.
Saudi officials not only pushed for the White House to keep the arms pipeline open, but also warned the administration against backing away from a longstanding demand that Mr. Assad must leave office.
In the past month of intensifying Russian airstrikes, the CIA and its partners have increased the flow of military supplies to rebels in northern Syria, including of U.S.-made TOW antitank missiles, these officials said. Those supplies will continue to increase in coming weeks, replenishing stocks depleted by the regime’s expanded military offensive.
An Obama administration official said the military pressure is needed to push Mr. Assad from power.
“Assad is not going to feel any pressure to make concessions if there is no viable opposition that has the capacity, through the support of its partners, to put pressure on his regime,” the official said.
In addition to the arms the U.S. has agreed to provide, Saudi and Turkish officials have renewed talks with their American counterparts about allowing limited supplies of shoulder-fire man-portable air-defense systems, or Manpads, to select rebels. Those weapons could help target regime aircraft, in particular those responsible for dropping barrel bombs, and could also help keep Russian air power at bay, the officials said.
Mr. Obama has long rebuffed such proposals, citing the risk to civilian aircraft and fears they could end up in the hands of terrorists. To reduce those dangers, U.S. allies have proposed retrofitting the equipment to add so-called kill switches and specialized software that would prevent the operator from using the weapon outside a designated area, said officials in the region briefed on the option.
U.S. intelligence agencies are concerned that a few older Manpads may already have been smuggled into Syria through supply channels the CIA doesn’t control.
If that sounds insane to you, that’s because it is. Even as US intelligence (which we can only assume emanates from the CIA) indicates that IS Sinai likely brought down a Russian passenger jet with 224 people on board, the same CIA is working with the Saudis to supply “select rebels” with weapons capable of shooting down commercial airliners.
In order to make sure no one ends up blowing a 747 out of the sky, Washington will “retrofit” the weapons with “special” software that makes sure they can only be used in certain areas.
Make no mistake, this has gone beyond absurd and is now bordering on the bizarre. It’s apparently not enough that the US is supplying anti-tank missiles to rebels shooting at the very same Iran-backed militias that the US implicitly supports across the border in Iraq so now, the CIA and Saudi Arabia will give these rebels the firepower to shoot down planes, meaning that in the “best” case scenario they’ll be firing at Russian fighter jets, and in the worst case scenario these weapons will end up in the “wrong” hands and be used to down commercial flights.
It's difficult to see how John Kerry can attend "peace" talks in Vienna and keep a straight face while chatting with Sergei Lavrov. That's not to say that Russia bears no responsibility for its role in the conflict (sure, Moscow is supporting a "legitimate" government in Syria but they're still dropping bombs on populated areas), but the US and the Saudis are arming Sunni extremist groups and encouraging them to shoot at Russian and Iranian forces. For Obama to suggest this isn't a proxy war is absurd.
Putting this all together, it now appears possible that the US is, i) sending anti-tank weapons to rebels who are shooting at Iranian soldiers, ii) embedding ground troops near Latakia which means they'll almost certainly be engaging Hezbollah directly, and iii) passing weapons capable of downing a commercial airliner to "select" militants days after a Russian passenger jet exploded in the skies above the Sinai Peninsula.
This is all in conjunction with the Saudis and Erodgan, who just rigged an election in Turkey on the way to rewriting his country's constitution.
And the Western media reports this with a straight face as though it all makes some measure of sense...
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lol, special software...... I can see the future, a CIA representative testifying to Congress after a US made manpad from Syria shoots down a US airliner ...."hacker....what's a hacker?"
Wipe it? Like with a cloth or something? I don't know how it works digitally. . .
Isn't she just a charming little ole lady? Just like grandma, but pure evil.
This is so counter to the real interests of the population of the United States you have to wonder whether these guys are actually under the control of the US...or whether it is the other way around.
The maniacs in power don't give a rat's ass about the population of the U.S. They have a global agenda and we are expendable.
"fundamentally transform"
"We're just going to kill the dollar." social engineering at its finest. Game set match bitches. Now its just a waiting game. Im not so sure this ends well for Murikistan.
The Real Expendables and Real String-pullers: Globalist Crypto-Noblemen + Banksters
http://balder.org/judea/Richard-Coudenhove-Kalergi-Practical-Idealism-Vienna-1925.php
If you scroll to near the bottom of the page, you will see the link to the original document, the Full German Text:
http://www.mediafire.com/download/wwyl5p4stattbqm/richard-coudenhove-kal...
Who can resist an offer of being slaughtered in cold blood with a *Moderate* BOMB
"Bring out the Holy Hand-grenade of Antioch!"
[1] FOAB https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8wvtRbCV-6w
[2] FOAB https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OJzASnmmxIM
It's all good unless they shoot down a Kikestani jet. Then it becomes a problem. But these terrorists are our allies, they will only shoot at what they're told.
Everyone else is fair game.
Funny isn't it? While everyone else has to put up with terrorist bombs Israel has to put up with just a handful of stabbings, but all we ever hear about is poor Israel.
Remember all those shoulder fired anti aircraft missiles that went missing in Libya? I wonder who has them...
Israel has them. They did the Libya job because Obama sent Netenyahoo home with his head up his ass. Netenyahoo wanted to show Obama who his master really is so they killed the Ambassador. Done deal.
How many times do I have to say it. The 1973 Saudi Agreement made the petrodollar standard. The most important part of that Kissinger J - Saudi Agreement was that petrodollars recycle back to Western Markets and Western Private Banks, especially dollar denominated banks.
Get it! Dollar system is based on oil pricing. These recycled dollars end up as reserves in banks around the world, as dollar is reserve currency.
Credit can then be issued, as the Capital position of the banks is secured. Additionally, all economies want dollars to protect their exchange rates.
This "construct" of world reserves and international credit DEPENDS ON PETRODOLLARS, and hence Saudi agreement.
The agreement also includes military cover to GURANTEE Saudi Secuirty. Saudi's get front line military gear, security guranatees, Navy protection, etc.
It must be said that Zion is a banker operation, where international BANK CREDIT is issued, and the banksters tank rents on this money, and try to control society. It was Jew CFR member who signed and propagated Saudi agreement.
Saudi is also the wellspring from which Wahabi Salafi Islam springs.
To take down the Saudi/Israeli/Bankster/US MIC nexxus means changing the money.
BRICS are challenging the Western Illuminist bankster system, with their alternate system. The illuminists are fighting back with their weapons, which include Salafi Islam.
I'm speculating, but it is not a stretch to recycle Petrodollars into the CIA. Black budget, off book accounting, is easy enough. Who has the money power rules, as everybody has a price. The Saudis simply pump some oil from the ground, it finds new credit money, this money funnels into markets or wherever they choose to point it. Recycling back to a dollar based CIA would be easy enough.
I've been following your comments for a while, thanks a lot for all the insights and for the insane amount of reading material I got from it.
Cheers
I've been following your comments for a while, thanks a lot for all the insights and for the insane amount of reading material I got from it.
Cheers
I've been following your comments for a while, thanks a lot for all the insights and for the insane amount of reading material I got from it.
Cheers
Lusitania false flag preparations?
Russia should drum up some evidence implicating the Sauds with the downed plane and start supplying the Yeminis with SAMs and armor-piercing weapons.
Putin should then announce, on behalf of the democratically elected Syrian government, a no-fly zone for all military aircraft other than Russian/Syrian or other approved countries.
Thankfully, for all of us, the U.S. is playing checker chips on this chessboard. Unless they decided to go postal/nuclear on the world.
Have no fear. It's all going according to plan.
WHAT???
Whoa! DC has gone ape-shit, fucking, insane....AGAIN!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T59x5o8wS6Y
One wave short of a shipwreck...
Queen / Innuendo / I'm Going Slightly Mad - 1991
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Od6hY_50Dh0
nice Able Ape!
Gave my grandchildren, an extra hug yesterday...
The Israelis put a bomb on that Russian plane.
This was in retaliation for a handful of air confrontations over Lebanon, Golan and the Med two weeks ago.
There is no such thing as coincidence.
If these homegrown ISIS guys in the Sinai had the capacity to take down planes they would have started all of that back in the Arab Spring and target Egyptian establishment aircraft and support which did not happen.
After all they were blowing up pipelines every week back then.
Additionally, if ISIS was so invigorated all these years why not target US aircraft worldwide. If the TSA can't find a bomb in your luggage do you really think some Aloha Snack-bar luggage handler can't put a homemade device in the cargo bay of Obama airlines?
The Russians will never forget about this.
Left to their own devices, ISIS could only come up with condom air mines. MANPADS and SAMS are outside of their capabilities. Of course they were supplied these weapons, and sadly, probably by my (the US) government. It'd be interesting to see a chemical analysis of the high explosive traces to determine the country of origin
I agree. My first thought upon hearing of a downed Russian commercial jet was that it was a Mossad operation. No doubt in my mind.
You're wrong.
This event was CIA and CIA alone.
Langley wanted the plane down not Tel Aviv. And Langley did not want a pack of sneaky, murderous Jews to have proof that the CIA ordered the destruction of a passenger jet, even if it was just loaded with Russians.
How about this?
What if the explosive device was put on the plane when it was at the location just prior to Sharm? And it was sophisticated enough to be triggered and its timer set to explode by a signal either just before it left Sharm or when it was airborne over the Sinai?
signal may be coming from a US military satellite, meaning once a bomb is on bord, it can be detonated at precise coordinates anywhere
know the flight path ahead of time and can guarantee to be able to position a video team for the detonation
(In Iraq, the US military (CIA) would stop a driver, interrogate him, and while being interrogated, load up his car boot with explosives, then tell him to go to another location, and have a helicopter follow and remotely detonate when the driver passed a crowded market, or other target, for effect. One Iraqi had it happen who thought his vehicle didn't drive the way it used to, scurried from the car, others became unsuspecting suicide bombers)
@bankonzhongguo
"The Israelis put a bomb on that Russian plane. This was in retaliation for a handful of air confrontations over Lebanon, Golan and the Med two weeks ago."
+10000
"Next, the ISIS home office in Raqqa (or Langley or Hollywood) released a video of five guys …."
I think the guy in the center of that photo went to my high school.
“Is that a real Syrian Rebel or a Sears Syrian Rebel?”
Frank Zappa and the Mothers of CIA Invention.
“Is that a real Syrian Rebel or a Sears Syrian Rebel?”
STANDING FUCKING OVATION!!
No, he's the guy that blew up your High School.
The USSA will continue to provoke Russia until they retaliate in a big way. Perhaps by taking out some of our special forces embeded in ISIS. The USSA can't wait to drop a Nuke on Russia in a first strike event. The elite's will get their WWIII that they can't wait to get underway. Probably coinsiding with several large false flag events on US soil.
Still the majority of Americans remain in their slumber concerned more about the Lardassians and Dancing with the Stars. After the false flags that are sure to come they will rise up and demand we kill those evil Russians. They'll gladly send their sons and daughters to the slaughter of war and brag on Facebook that, We Support our Troops who are fighting to keep us free!
I'm sad and outraged at the same time. I don't know whether to scream or cry. Maybe a little of both?
Americans are cultivated to die for the Ziobankers.
It's not the average American citizen, it's the bought and paid for politicians (elected or appointed) that will see to it, and AIPAC, and any other number of little hives of villainy that throws money at DC.
Superdave ? The saddest part is that your prophecy has about a 98% chance of being correct.
Ignorance is bliss they say, Americans are ignorant to a degree that it's pathetic. I'm sorry but living in ignorance comes at a price.
For some reason I feel compelled to note that in Germany at the "End the Fed" rallies (peaceful, so you may not have heard of them) there is increasing sentiment among Germans that the US Government is evil and the American people are it's victims.
The American Empire will come down on the wrong side of history on this one, I have no doubt. However, they are used to directing the narrative and getting the outcome they want. I believe they are now so diluded they simply can't see how this will fail.
Wouldn't it be ironic if the sentiment of the average German citizen were the catalyst that "saved the world" from the American Empire? There is still much German "Nazi guilt" in Germany and many Germans feel like they "owe us a solid" the next time around.
It would be poetic if it did happen. But, German's populism isn't going to save or change the US populace, who are completely captured by the frivolity of entertainment and spectacles.
The US will have to go through a much darker period of internal repression before the populace recognizes that things aren't supposed to be this way.
.Gov will do whatever it takes to keep a simple majority satisfied while they criminalize and marginalize the rest.
I think what you're referring to is likely to happen across the entire Western world. We're all on the same path of unsustainable government bloat and eventual shortages of resources. Governments have already started the process of trying to contain the crises they create, and creating new crises along the way. Depending on how things work out the US may be a better place to weather the storm. We still retain the right to reasonable self defense and have plentiful natural resources. We're also likely to temporarily benefit from being the reserve currency prior to the S hitting the F.
The right to self defence can only be seen as something good in a country that has a rouge government. Wouldn't it be nicer to live in a country where you wouldn't have to be afraid of your own government? I guess most Americans take it for granted that this is inevitable. Well I tell you it is not. There's a lack of respect from government towards its citizens that must have always existed in the US.
Victimization ...... may be a good strategy. In addition to being armed and very well informed.
I was wondering on how to play this personally, so lets call it the Bogart response. I cannot prevent idiot muricans dragging me over the cliff to certain doom, so this is position likely the only hope for those who have continuously railed in almost every non violent way against TPTB-NWZiO. (In my case since 1991.)
Captain Renault: What in heaven's name brought you to Casablanca?
Rick: My health. I came to Casablanca for the waters.
Captain Renault: The waters? What waters? We're in the desert.
Rick: I was misinformed.
PERHAPS some of our granchildren's children will survive to tell the TRUE tale and the rest of the world will forgive those who were "wilfully misinformed". I am so weary of the fight, I am praying for a swift end to begin rebuilding it all. The USSA powers have FUBAR.... Orwell filter= Russia becomes the shining beacon on the hill to blunt the terrorist DC powers...... sigh.
A poignant and agreeable post. I'm an American and there seems to be a noticeable plurality among the regular folks that recognizes we've been on the wrong side of many recent issues/conflicts but are largely powerless or at least ineffective in changing course. It doesn't help that we've developed a two-party political system that is largely bought and paid for. The collectivists have gained control.
I've lived in central Europe and have a great appreciation for most of it. I've become concerned that the stage is being set in Europe for more war and destruction. Even if the US were to remain largely untouched, I have no doubt our sons and daughters would eventually be fed into whatever mess befalls Europe. Americans are still constantly hammered with "slave guilt" for political reasons along the same lines "Nazi guilt" is used to manipulate Germans. If Germans do feel they "owe us a solid", let it be getting over their guilt and looking out for their own best interests. Germany is a wonderful country and should remain so. The "solid" would be to let Americans come visit and experience a pleasant/peaceful European community and not be forced over to fight a supposed enemy, whomever that may be.
Incidentally, I'd been raised on being skeptical of Russia, and I still am, but American criminal behavior like the subject of this story promotes nothing but sympathy. I'm currently left wondering if turning to a strong man wasn't the better choice over yielding to corrupt global collectivists that undoubtedly have less concern for Russia than the current nationalist strong man.
Weapons systems capable of downing commercial a/c at 33K feet? Same systems can down low-flying
military a/c and helos as well. Scorecard:
1) anti-armor weapons introduced to Syrian theater
2) boots on the gorund introduced to Syrian theater
3) MANPADS or related introduced to Syrian theater
Moral: CIA spooks strike again. Told ya so.
Now, ask where can addtl avenues of escalation occur that impinge Russia/Russian interests?
Can you say "The Russian experience in Afghanistan circa 1979-1989?" I knew you could.
Everything Vichy Washington is doing is *predictable* and supporting Islamofascist terrorists and neo-nazis to overthrow governments and install puppet regimes does not win the hearts and minds of the rest of the world.
You think the US is winning, do you? How Eckhart Tolle of you.
Even were that true - why on earth would anyone of sound mind, and not making money from its bloody violence, root for the Anglo-Zionist Empire? At best we have state violence all around, contrary, directly contrary, to the well being of the people of Syria - remember them?
It's very sad to think that someone believes that continuing the Assad line of kings counts as self-determination.
We've come a long way, baby.
And it's all been downhill since the Enlightenment flickered out in the blaze of European socialism.
Syria should indeed be free.
Free of Russians. Free of Iranians. Free of Americans. Free of each other, even, if they choose to re-tribalize into smaller groupings.
But to suppose that self-determination for Syria is coming out of the current war over oil pipelines, no matter which cartel is victorious, seems unlikely to me.
Nations cannot truly self-determinate because they are fictional political reifications. A nation is a concept, a concept decides nothing, only individuals decide.
Total fucking madness. Our government is completely insane to do this.
These are DIY no-fly zone kits.
They are going to arm terrorists with portable anti-aircraft systems that do not exist? Kill switches, integrated GPS to track coordinates for the device, etc. have to be developed, tested and put into production. Or have I not understood something?
Moreover, on 10 000 meters altitude, even a very big aircraft is invisible for the human eye. Such a device needs to be equipped with some radar. I heard that the Buk system needs external radar for a high altitude target and this system is portable but not by a man.
My understanding is that they developed satellite-download unlock codes for Stingers shortly after the original Afghan adventure. That way, if a weapon falls into the wrong hands, they cannot use it as anything other than a YouTube prop.
Can't speak to the failsafe procedures on all of the tens of thousands of Soviet/Russian manpads that are floating around post-Libya. If I were pushing supplies to ISIS -- in other words, if I were Hillary Clinton -- these are the ones I would ship. Total deniability and an interesting experiment in watching Russian planes get shot down with Russian missiles. Still another mirror-image echo of Vietnam where Charlie got much of his hardware out of ARVN warehouses.
If so, I guarantee there is an "engineering mode".
Always a back door to everything. If I give one to some tribesman, it's not a problem. If he has a brother who went to MIT, it is. But even then, it would take time to burrow through the code.
Easier to just give everyone Russian SAs and not worry about it.
The US foreign policy coming out of the CIA is breathtaking. Those shoulder-fired missiles are going to end up taking down US commercial flights. Then there are the reckless consequences for foreign policy. If those missiles take down (more) Russian or Chinese flights, those nations wont be happy with our autokleptocrats. So much fail. It's hard not to feel alienated from US .gov. Would you fight for this government?
Do you think, at least for the CIA, that a American airliner being shot down is a bad thing? When you control information, there is no such as bad news...
Keep letting the Ivy League Idiots at the State Department and CIA run the show and we will have WWIII within weeks.
Ahhemm - it's actually the ZIO-NeoCON SCUMMM* running the show.
Nice try.
(SCUMMM* - Satanic Cbala Underwriting Mass-Murder & Mayhem )
Let the record show that both witnesses identified the same defendant, but by a different name.
(looks at wristwatch)
O hope Russia gives ground to air missile to the Taliban to get rid of the USA in Afghanistan .
Russia's response will be orthogonal to everything that's expected. Who, for example, expected them to fire cruise missiles at targets in Syria from the Caspian Sea? I guarantee you nobody saw it coming. And that's how Russia's next major move will transpire: nobody will see it coming, but when it happens everybody will recognise it for what it is, a geopolitical game-changer that will turn the Anglo-American-Israeli Axis of Evil in the Middle East upside-down.
The psychopath won't understand that for example killing 250 people on an airliner is wrong, if it means that their goals are met. The end always justifies the means. It simply wouldn't occur to them that it's a problem, until people start looking at them in horror. And then they try to rationalise.
The USA government is totally out of control on every issue. Why? Because it's citizens didn't stand up and yell "hell no" for the last 14 years. Now we will pay the price. This is just more stupidity on a different day by those in power. This action makes George W. and Slick Willy look like geniuses. You can depend on more stupidity tomorrow. Somehow the citizens will be blamed for all of it in the end. This is the way governments have always functioned.
"Make no mistake, this has gone beyond absurd and is now bordering on the bizarre."
Progressive usurper criminals are fully in charge of the US FEDGOV.
And of course you know, the progressive stupid, it burns.
We are waaaaaaaaaaaay past impeachment. Time for the immediate arrest of obirdbrain and the criminals infesting his regime.
Grimaldus
The Deep State is lousy with neocons. There are only a relative few neo-libs like S. Power - who is married to Cass Sunstein, who is a neocon. Just as Nuland and Pyatt and Feltman are - Ukraine was entirely a neocon and "realist" flustercluck. "neocon" may be a misnomer, sure, but that doesn't mean it isn't a discernible school of thought that has infested the US gov since Clinton.
And all it really amounts to is liberal academic Jewish Zionists who at some point figured using America as sword and shield for Israel would be 'good for the Jews' That's not a conspiracy theory or a wild allegation - that was and is the very *essence* of the neocon movement? What - you didn't note that just about all the leading neocons were Zionist Jews? Why only Thomas Friedman and Carl Bernstein and a few others were able to speak this absolutely ostentatious truth - you can supply your own theory, but it has to do witha feature of wildly disproportionate Jewish Privilege and Power being the desire and ability to obfuscate that power.
It is time for Syria to ban all civil aircraft overflights from Syria's airspace for their own safety. For a stated reason that they have information that Saudi Arabia is arming jihadists with MANPADS.
Darpa R&D project funded by taxpayers. Let's see if this design meet's the charter goal.
Sick fucking people working in MIC.
How about if Iran or Russia do the same for the "democratic" movements in Saudi Arabia?
The Saudi kingdom is well known sponsor of terrorism and exporter of terrorist ideology.
when they shoot down Air Force One then we'll have a real conspiracy theory
How are they smuggling the TOWs in?
In order to expand this, Putin has to close off Turkey's route and Iraq. So it will be War. You might get away with attacking Daesh in Iraq and all Obama can do is cut some cheese to go with his whine.
But if Russia starts bombing them in Turkey, that's NATO and Obama will get his precious....World War III
This is just insane, illegal and morally wrong. Why would the U.S. give weapons to militants that can shoot down commercial aircraft. This country is beyond criminal now and is openly trying to provoke a war with both Russia and China. I can't wait to leave this stinking cesspool of a country.
Based on altitude, had to be a drone. Interesting, all the plane parts hit the ground. Inspection and recovery. Yet, remember this?
United Flight 93 Shanksville Somerset Pennsylvania September...
Based on altitude, had to be a drone. Interesting, all the plane parts hit the ground. Inspection and recovery. Yet, remember this?
United Flight 93 Shanksville Somerset Pennsylvania September...
> the ISIS home office in Raqqa (or Langley or Hollywood)
Or Tel Aiv.
We (USSA) deserve to evaporate into nothingness!
We have been completely hijacked by the MIC, shadow government, insane "leaders" and a lazy, fat, stupid public! We fucking deserve whatever we get as we go out with a whimper...
I would have liked to have seen Montana.
Montana is really beautiful.
The MIC is not a person, but a system, and that too is controlled. If you want to see the point of the pyramid, it goes beyond corporations. It does seem to coalesce around Zionism though.
I guess I'll be canceling my flight from Damascus to Tehran.
This si fucekd up
Well, at least one US congressman knows what's going on:
http://thesaker.is/amazing-words-from-congressman-dana-rohrabacher/
I'm calling his office to thank him.
To reduce those dangers, U.S. allies have proposed retrofitting the equipment to add so-called kill switches and specialized software that would prevent the operator from using the weapon outside a designated area, said officials in the region briefed on the option.
Holy. Fucking. Retarded. This must have come from the same ass-hats who thought that microstamping bullets was a good idea. When will they have people in technical oversight positions to whom "Pong" is NOT considered state-of-the-art? It would take a mid-level hacker about an hour to bypass anything these oatmeal-heads could come up with...
The weapons are already there and have already been used. The weapons are already there and have already been used. The weapons are already there and have already been used. The weapons are already there and have already been used. The weapons are already there and have already been used. The weapons are already there and have already been used.
And those DO reach high and fast planes from mobile platforms. Peak Insanity full speed ahead.
One of these stingers will make their way down to Baghdad or Basra. Guaranteed.
The US giving Stingers out like trick or treats is fucking terrorism.
There is NO downside for them, if per chance these "moderate terrorsts" take down a western plane, they will just blame it on the Iranians or Russians (an excuse for more war). When you control the media, there is NO such thing as bad news, you can spin any way you like.
Oh yeah - another brilliant fucking move by the Pentagon. WTF?!?
Can the missile software be modified to discriminate for aircraft with US politicians on board? Now that would be quite a game changer!
EDIT: included with US politicians tracking software - UN members, NATO members and dual citizens of the US and Israel.
Well, as I predicted, with the Western proxy army baying at the gates of Damascus, Putin was forced to commit Russian forces directly into the Great Gulf Gas Pipeline War and now it was the opposition's turn at bat. I also said that it would take about a month for the response to filter through to the forces on the ground and I may have been a little tardy on that one.
No surprise to me that Obama would respond to being called out and ridiculed by Putin. A lot of people thought he would just squeal like a girl and run away-- but he never abandons his real plans in the face of opposition. And this is too important to the Europeans and the Arabs to back away from anyhow.
On the Western side, this is PRIMARILY about developing an alternative source of natural gas so that Europe can free itself of the annual Russian hints about supply disruptions, as well as bringing in a new source of revenue to the cash-strapped Arabs trying to wait out the frackers.
On the Russian side, this is PRIMARILY about keeping its own revenue stream and geopolitical influence intact and preventing the Europeans from having other places to shop for their gas-- which would seriously reduce both of them simultaneously.
These are existential questions, since one set of suppliers or the other will be critically, perhaps fatally, damaged depending on the outcome of this proxy war. To suppose that either one of them is going to run away is simply delusional.
Take careful note of the issuance of new software-controlled anti-air assets coupled with a warning that some non-vetoable weapons (from other sources) may already be finding its way into the theater of operations. A lawyerly CYA move coupled with an implicit warning to the Russian side.
But the Vietnam 2.0 dynamic currently remains intact. Superpower commits its own forces to fight off a cheap, disposable set of opposition-backed insurgents. For the west, the more of these kooks get killed in country, the better it is for their plans. For the Russians, it is a race to stabilize the situation before too many body bags make it back to the homeland.
And, speaking of body bags, you may have missed these stories about the first ones...
https://www.rt.com/news/319836-russian-soldier-suicide-syria
http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/10/27/us-mideast-crisis-syria-russia...
And an Israel-Firster troll smugly rooting against Russia as they fight Islamic terrorists who have murdered tens of thousands...and ergo, rooting for and celebrating ISIS victories is no longer interesting.
ISIS is Israel's proxy.
For all the experience that the supposed "fight club"/masculine Tylers have with Jewish bankers, Jewish media, Jewish oligarchs and so on... they're still kosher. The Jews didn't even have to convince them to cut their penises off and be good beta male debt/money slaves. Like the freedumb fry eaters, they'd rather attack everyone else in the world than identify the Jewish lobbies, the Jewish oligarchs, the Jewish nationalists and the interests of the Jewish State. Ultimately, they would rather implode their own country and government than identify and deal with Jewish influence.
So they blame their own intelligence services instead of naming the Jewish nationalists that have infiltrated them, feed them false intelligence and so on.
What is it that the Israelis say? "We will never outsource our national security."
I don't really care about the particulars of the wacky beliefs or national/ethnic origin of the people murdering people by proxy. While one should be able to speak freely regarding any set of facts, and speak truth to power, the primary issues is ideology. The neocons are not the only hyperinterventionists occupying Mordor on the Potomac although they are perhaps the predominant segment.
And were there not a goodly amount of {classical} liberal and libertarian Jews openly and lously critical of Israel, there'd be virtually no criticism at all. I'd prefer not make enemies out of genuine allies.
I care deeply when people seek to use American blood and treasure as sword and shield for a tiny, belligerent, racist, nuclear rogue, meddling, treacherous, foreign state. And in that regard, most of the people I'd deport are Southern Evangelical Judeo-Christian warmongers. On an emotional level, I dislike them far more viscerally than someone born into the Zio narrative of Eternal and Sacred victimhood. Only eceptional minds can break through the level of brainwashing attendant to Judaic ethno-nationalism.
They are, mostly, anosognosic of their own deep hypocrisy. There are very few, if any 'paid trolls' on a site this small. You have people who are absolutely religious about their extant worldview. Best just to ignore them - they are mostly unpacking inanities anyway.
I hear you bro, one day we will all be as noble as you.
What the fuck is the matter with the idea of taking control of a proxy army of people who hate you and want to kill you and then redirect them away from your homeland and instead turn them loose on another group of people who hate you and want to kill you. All of you Sun Tzu disciples ought to be dispassionate enough to recognize supreme generalship when you see it-- even if it is being directed at the field marshal you are personally rooting for.
This is, if true, one of the MOST BRILLIANT INTELLIGENCE OPERATIONS in the history of the world. In western countries everywhere, dangerous and subverted Islamic kooks have voluntarily self-deported themselves to Syria so they can live out their fantasies tormenting Syrians rather than tormenting western civilians.
Do I think its cynical and ruthless? Sure it is.
But this is a mother fucking war, Taffy. You'd better awaken to the fact that this is all about money/oil/power and there are no angels at the controls of either one of these war machines.
How you come to the conclusion that Putin sending in the grenadiers to fight a bunch of cleverly directed and completely disposable robots amounts to a victory for him is quite beyond me. But I do take comfort in the idea that you are not on my team.
The ties to Obama and the Muslim brotherhood are very significant and that primarily explains the Middle East situation on the ground right now. You have to realize the influence these people have are not only in the cia and state department but are at very influential levels all over the government. An irradication of this mess will take years and years because of the Obama doctrine.
BTW, the Russian plane fell out of the sky about 40 miles from Israel's biggest war games exercise:
"US and Israel Conducted “War Games” In the Vicinity of the Russian Plane Crash Location"
http://www.globalresearch.ca/us-and-israel-conducted-war-games-in-the-vi...
Things that make you go hmmm...
In years to come US will be labeled alongside the Nazis - and McCain et al are lining up for the Hitler role.
I thought the Bolsheviks were in charge? Meh, potato potato.
More like Stalin. Death through carelessness and negligence.
Only if the usual international Jewish mafia that is causing much of this say that's kosher.
First they sign off on a Transfer Agreement with the "Nazis," then they say that they were made into soap and lampshades because the point was to kill six million of those that are six million times as sacred as the goyim in a suitable holocaust/sacrifice for Zion all along.
Shrug.
Look at yourselves, you're like dogs conditioned to salivate whenever anyone says "Nazi." One has to give the jews credit, they are making their prophecies come true. You and millions of others like you are their guard dogs at this point. So it would seem that they're correct about your destiny, good goy.
This is not possible! I wrote my Senators, Representatives and Obama, telling them not to do this!
Ahhh, you didn't do the online petition yet then. They'll still ignore you but you haven't even fully checked the box yet.
Spooks have been running the country since 1963. They've just recently decided to come out of the closet, so to speak. They are the true base (Al Qaeda) of the world wide fascist neo nazicon movement. The crazies have infected the entire USA government and military structure otherwise they could not come out openly with this kind of insanity. The military has been purged of any possible resistance. The spooks now believe they will get Russia into another Afghanistan situation. This will be their last attempt to neutralize Russia indirectly,,, next up will be direct confrontation, possibly nuclear.
After that,,,, well,,, who knows. The lucky ones will be dead. I think by now most have realized none of this can be stopped by the voting booth. Amazingly I have read posts spewing the Repub/Demo drivel so the meme that it's "the other sides fault" is still strong. These neonazi con spooks only recognize strength through the barrel of a gun, to use Mao's line. They are self supporting (Drugs/weapons/child/women trafficking) they no longer need funding from taxes. They own the military and control all federal agencies and most media sources and the Central Bank. They are present in all social groups, whether online or otherwise right down to local communities and schools.I'm doubtful even a full scale revolt could pry them loose, they are so deeply entrenched.
Just like their brethren nazi's in a past Germany, they will have to be taken out by a superior and dedicated military force. We will be forced to fight an enemy that was forced to fight us. Anyway you look at it,,, many of us will die. Even worse, all life on the planet is at risk this go around.
This is all set in stone. The only possible temporary reprieve I see is the biblical version where a person unknown to the world will appear to correct it all,,, for awhile. Then it really goes to hell until the return of the One. IMO He might then want to consider complete eradication as I see no value this species has added or ever will add to the overall scheme of things.
Incredible that anyone still buys into this Dem/Rep charade.
Most journalists working for the MSM are stupid enough to believe the Left-Right charade. That means most people who swallow their bilge also fall for it. If you tell them socialism and communism were the brainchild of financiers in New York and the City of London they look at you with a blank stare and then go back to Facebook and Twitter.
I'm not disagreeing with you regarding jour-nihilists intelligence, I'd just like to add their complete lack of integrity when considering the bullshit they spew.
They have been killing the good men, for 2000 years starting with Jesus, and more lately JFK (and JFK's brother Bobby) and MLK. It is difficult though, it is difficult to fight when most people just want to live, while they only wish to make war. We have to become them to defeat them, and who wants to do that?
Excellent post - but you confuse "Nazis" with what are, in fact, ZIO BOLSHEVIKS.
That's like arguing that some "stopping another Hitler" freedumb fry eater got everything right except for where to actually bomb.
"Well, you were 99% correct... except that you just blew up your own country."
Keep these dumbasses away from anything important.
Wait, the Jewish banks and the Jewish lobbies of the West that want war are all Hitler's fault? Soros/Nuland/Wolfowitz/Pearl/etc.etc. creating war and Greenspan/Bernanke/Yellen/etc.etc. financing it... are all Hitler's fault?
Who knew!
Just like their brethren nazi's in a past Germany...
I sometimes wonder if Ovadia Yosef and the other rabbis that state it directly are correct. Perhaps you dumb cucks are destined to be their slaves in a more open way than just the debt/money. Look at yourselves, you were convinced to be Team Captain Cartoon America by Jewish boys inventing their own Uberman/Superman cartoon and then another nice Jewish boy comes along and makes a movie about how your Team America is puppets, goyim golems, and you buy into that too!
Shrug. Just, pathetic... but who knew, you went all around the world looking for "another Hitler" to defeat for the Jews and now here you are, finally concluding that your own country is "another Hitler." Well, you know what that means!
These would be the "moderate" terrorists we've been hearing about then?
It will be a blessing for the planet if somebody overthrows this kingdom of Saud.
That's Al Pacino, the second one to the left.
I thought it was George Harrison from 1970.
What does this government need to do, to be deemed one hostile to the Constitution and the American people, including its military? I'm asking.
why isnt arming 'al qaeda' and 'isis' treason under us law? why isnt the fbi raiding cia?
Probably because Eric Holder and Loretta Lynch were/are too busy making PowerPoint presentations about how cultural/fiscal conservatives are worse than AQ.
They could stop by the Israeli embassy and AIPAC while they're at it.
The only thing that the CIA and Saudi don't understand is when you "UP" the war to another level and don't care what just happened to a Russian airliner,then it gives the Russians an Iranians the go ahead to use a level of weaponry that will dwarf the present ones being used.NeoCon madness supporting terrorists funded by the U.S, and a nation that treats women like dirt and beheads its own people.
IBTimes' "S-300 in Syria" News Nothing But Hot Air
Why Saudi Arabia and Russia Cannot Be Partners
I like Putin's speech on how deranged the U.S is.
If you don't like whats going on, vote for Bernie Sanders.
Yeah....that'll show em! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
I'm not voting for the Socialist Crypt Keeper.
Putin is now officially justified to drop some nukes, but on selected CIA rebels...
certainly puts the storyline persistently being pushed by the US and UK into a different light... '
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/nov/05/egypt-plane-crash-likely-to...CIA traitors.
"CIA, Saudis To Give "Select" Syrian Militants Weapons Capable Of Downing Commercial Airliners"
Perhaps they can be trained to use them by Russian "volunteers" that are now streaming out of Ukraine
WW3 is coming. I'd say we have 1 year at the very most.
Russia offers Iran hi-tech missiles as Moscow monetises Middle East conflict
Russia has courted controversy by offering to sell Syria's president Assad S-300s.
In January, Russian President Vladimir Putin said Russia's arms exports in 2014 had hit $15bn, and Chemezov said the conflict in the Middle East had helped fuel the surge in sales.
"I don't conceal it, and everyone understands this, the more conflicts there are, the more they buy off weapon from us. Volumes are continuing to grow despite sanctions. Mainly, it's Latin America and the Middle East," he was quoted as saying.
http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/russia-offers-iran-hi-tech-missiles-moscow-mone...
blah blah blah
Like this is going to end well.
Investigators should be able to determine if the tail of the aircraft separated because of an explosion or because of overstress due to a needlessly complicated flight control system that malfunctioned. All they really need is the tail section which impacted at a relatively low impact relative to the rest of the aircraft. They do have all the remaining wreckage including the flight data recorder and the cockpit voice recorder, so that is additional evidence. The UK and the US governments should stop promoting their agendas out of respect for the dead if nothing else. Just shut up for once.
It appears that the USSA is possessed by a Demonic Entity.
And that is not hyperbole.
It's kinda like when you enjoy a Budweiser Select.
These weapons are probably being shipped from Italy on Mearsk line to Turkey and then on to Syria by road. Obviously Russian intelegence knows the ships and aschedules.
Within international law they would have every right to interdict these shipments and confiscate the weapons on the high seas.
That is what Putin can and should do.
"The CIA just announced, through an unknown but highly reliable senior administration official, that Stinger Missiles have been given to the GOP". The Hope of the State Department is that only the "BAD" guys will feel the Change of the Stinger.
so the GOP/Democrat difference is the same as the Al Qaida/Al Nusra/ Free Syrian Army?
What could possibly go wrong?
Zerohedge is kosher.
1oz Silver American Eagles €12 @ EurGold
https://www.eurgold.eu/silver/silver-coins/american-eagle-1oz-silver-coi...
There's a scam if I've ever seen one. Ok, 100 eagles shipped to America at a cost of $13.66@ while silver sits at $15 - I think not.
As I was showering this morning and washing my equipment, my thoughts turned to lengthy pipelines of vast diameter.
And I thought of that event in Germany which preceded the second world war: Kristallnacht.
I wondered what would happen if one night that troublemaker, Putin, visits 'pipelinenacht' on the Saudis, the Kuwaitis, the Qatari and all the other Gulf State imbeciles.
All those refugees now in Europe and a reduction in the continent's supply of energy.
It was too overwhelming to think about so I had breakfast and tried to come up with a way to put a 'kill switch' on the Negro.
Makes sense to me. We want to expose as many non-combat assets as possible to attack in order to stabilize and promote prosperity!
It can't be long now ...
Before Americans are killing Russians and Russians are killing Americans
inside Syria.
This is probably a cover story for US special forces eventually shooting at Syrian/Russian planes.
Obama Clown Show: "Oh, it was those crazy extremists that changed their mind about being moderate and took some Manpads with them. Our bad..."
This brings new meaning to The Blue Screen of Death
"Next, the ISIS home office in Raqqa (or Langley or Hollywood)"
OR Tele Aviv.
Paraphrasing: those who choose safety over liberty will get neither, and deserve neither. Get off your knees, my fellow Americans and human beings. We are being played, bamboozled, cheated; robbed of our cultures, blood and treasure - for the few at the expense of the many, worldwide.
Do you see what I see? Do you feel what I feel? Time for a little chat...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KKvvOFIHs4k
Fact is stranger than fiction, but fiction can be bolder in stating the State we are in. Shakespeare was true: 'To thine ownself be true...thou canst not then be false to another...'.
Trust your instincts. There is something very wrong with the State we are in.
My response if I was Russian would be to let it be known that if the US supplies terrorist groups with missiles capable of shooting down Russian military aircraft and Passenger aircraft that I would supply a similar missile to various 'freedom fighters' in other regions of the world to enhance their abilities.
Areas that might well have US and European military aircraft and possibly passenger aircraft overhead.