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"There's A Total Lack Of Confidence" McCain Warns Obama Of Growing "Military Dissatisfaction"

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Conjuring images of "the kind of incrementalism that defined much of the Vietnam conflict," John McCain came out swinging today exposing the frustration top military officers have with President Obama's policies. "There’s a total lack of confidence in the president's leadership," the warmonger raged, adding - as perhaps a veiled threat - "there’s a level of dissatisfaction among the uniformed military that I’ve never seen in my time here."

Interestingly, as The Washington Times reports, Rep. Adam Smith, the ranking Democrat on the House Armed Services Committee, echoed McCain's comments, demanding that, The White House be "more inclusive in the decision-making process," rather than 'icing' The Pentagon out

"People who have spoken truth to power get retired," ranted McCain, "all you have to do is look at a map of the Middle East in 2009 and then compare it to a map of today," to see an utterly failed strategy.

Mr. McCain argued that the frustration on Capitol Hill and at the Pentagon stems from the administration’s “complete lack of any kind of coherent strategy, much less a strategy that would have any success on the battlefield” against Islamic State and the Assad regime.

“We’re sending 50 — count them, 50 — special operations soldiers to Syria, and they will have ‘no combat role,’ the president says,” said Mr. McCain. “Well, what are they being sent there for? To be recreation officers? You’re in a combat zone, and to say they’re not in combat is absurd.”

But the White House, he argued, has effectively blinded itself to such absurdities by promoting a system over the past seven years that suppresses dissenting voices.

"Compliant and easily led military leaders get promoted,” he said.

 

When it comes to actual policy, Mr. McCain lamented, the administration pursues half-measures and decisions, “when they are made, consistently disregard recommendations from the uniformed military.”

 

The failure to break Islamic State’s hold on Syria and Iraq, and its spread into North Africa, have resulted in “very poisoned relations that now exist between many in both houses of Congress and the president,” said Mr. McCain.

 

“There’s a total lack of confidence in the president’s leadership,” he said.

 

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Mr. McCain said Mr. Obama’s past claims that things were improving in the region have undercut his credibility today.

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It sounds like the neocons are upset at the progress Putin has made... and are stirring the pot for moar war. It appears to be working to get the general public on their side...

More than 6 in 10 now disapprove of President Obama’s handling of the threat posed by the Islamic State in Iraq and Syria, according to an Associated Press-GfK poll published Thursday, an 8-point jump compared to a similar poll last January.

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Since our Nobel Peace Prize winning President is sending "a few" special operations forces to Syria, it seems like a great time to revisit one of Ron Paul's columns from 2013. In it, Dr. Paul asked if war with Syria was justified even if President Obama sought and received a declaration of war (spoiler alert: it's not!).

Of course, this is a theoretical question since Obama, the former Constitutional Law Professor, did not seek Congressional approval before sending American troops to Syria.

Here is Dr. Paul's column from 2013:

President Obama announced this weekend that he has decided to use military force against Syria and would seek authorization from Congress when it returned from its August break. Every Member ought to vote against this reckless and immoral use of the US military. But even if every single Member and Senator votes for another war, it will not make this terrible idea any better because some sort of nod is given to the Constitution along the way

 

Besides, the president made it clear that Congressional authorization is superfluous, asserting falsely that he has the authority to act on his own with or without Congress. That Congress allows itself to be treated as window dressing by the imperial president is just astonishing.

 

The President on Saturday claimed that the alleged chemical attack in Syria on August 21 presented "a serious danger to our national security." I disagree with the idea that every conflict, every dictator, and every insurgency everywhere in the world is somehow critical to our national security. That is the thinking of an empire, not a republic. It is the kind of thinking that this president shares with his predecessor and it is bankrupting us and destroying our liberties here at home.

 

According to recent media reports, the military does not have enough money to attack Syria and would have to go to Congress for a supplemental appropriation to carry out the strikes. It seems our empire is at the end of its financial rope. The limited strikes that the president has called for in Syria would cost the US in the hundreds of millions of dollars. Joint Chiefs Chairman Gen. Martin Dempsey wrote to Congress last month that just the training of Syrian rebels and "limited" missile and air strikes would cost "in the billions" of dollars. We should clearly understand what another war will do to the US economy, not to mention the effects of additional unknown costs such as a spike in fuel costs as oil skyrockets.

 

I agree that any chemical attack, particularly one that kills civilians, is horrible and horrendous. All deaths in war and violence are terrible and should be condemned. But why are a few hundred killed by chemical attack any worse or more deserving of US bombs than the 100,000 already killed in the conflict? Why do these few hundred allegedly killed by Assad count any more than the estimated 1,000 Christians in Syria killed by US allies on the other side? Why is it any worse to be killed by poison gas than to have your head chopped off by the US allied radical Islamists, as has happened to a number of Christian priests and bishops in Syria?

 

For that matter, why are the few hundred civilians killed in Syria by a chemical weapon any worse than the 2000-3000 who have been killed by Obama's drone strikes in Pakistan? Does it really make a difference whether a civilian is killed by poison gas or by drone missile or dull knife?

 

In "The Sociology of Imperialism," Joseph Schumpeter wrote of the Roman Empire's suicidal interventionism:

 

"There was no corner of the known world where some interest was not alleged to be in danger or under actual attack. If the interests were not Roman, they were those of Rome's allies; and if Rome had no allies, then allies would be invented. When it was utterly impossible to contrive an interest - why, then it was the national honour that had been insulted."

 

Sadly, this sounds like a summary of Obama's speech over the weekend. We are rapidly headed for the same collapse as the Roman Empire if we continue down the president's war path. What we desperately need is an overwhelming Congressional rejection of the president's war authorization. Even a favorable vote, however, cannot change the fact that this is a self-destructive and immoral policy.

 

 

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Fri, 11/06/2015 - 13:13 | 6758392 Max Steel
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It is right muriturd you ignorants forgot US Army is weak compared to Russians and see the past your country struggled in continental warfare.

Sat, 11/07/2015 - 02:14 | 6760937 rich1657
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Let's not get carried away; the Military History of the Russian Federation isn't overly impressive. Russian Army conscripts have literally neutralized more of their own than enemy combatants. Warfare is a logistical science - the Russians would be out of brass before we were even warmed up on Red Bull.

Thu, 11/05/2015 - 23:55 | 6756568 fudge
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FWIW .. maybe they should find the appropriate roles for women, not necessarily in the "elite" corps, but because women can, and have in the past, perfomed in well in combat situations ..

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lyudmila_Pavlichenko

Fri, 11/06/2015 - 00:10 | 6756616 tarabel
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My understanging from an ex-Ranger buddy is that they dropped the desert qualification part of the course (i.e. the hardest) in order to get the ladies over the hump.

Fri, 11/06/2015 - 03:55 | 6756938 wizteknet
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How many ladies we talking about out of a whole company? 2 out of 290 on the latest graduation class sizes. Them 2 might kick more ass then u think... This is not including non commissioned & officers in totals either. I shoulda took ranger school when it was offered, sounds fun. Then Spec Ops adios Osama.

Fri, 11/06/2015 - 07:02 | 6757096 Rip van Wrinkle
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Correction: -

 

McInsane is too fucking evil to see what is going on in the military. He can see...doesn't give a shit.

Thu, 11/05/2015 - 23:27 | 6756473 Sanity Bear
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Maybe helping Al-Qaeda, bombing hospitals and wedding parties, and being offered up as a sacrificial target to the Chinese navy aren't all that popular in the rank and file?

Thu, 11/05/2015 - 23:28 | 6756478 Aleedsfella
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I am so sick and tired of this shit! I know its tv but it hits the nail on the head. It also appeals to the couch potatoes, may I ask people to make it a massive hammer on the head of the sheep and we all keep posting it on every site we can. No I have nothing to do with the tv show, I am just trying to knock on the heads of the people. Why not try and save the lives of Nato soldiers by clicking a link? I say again it's not a money grabbing thing, I live in England and have nothing to do with American TV.

 

https://youtu.be/bv1wBYQ4fQg

Thu, 11/05/2015 - 23:30 | 6756483 FedFunnyMoney
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Mc Cain is utterly insane.

Thu, 11/05/2015 - 23:30 | 6756484 Troy Ounce
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Uniformed military?  They forgot the "n"?

Thu, 11/05/2015 - 23:32 | 6756491 buzzsaw99
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mccain wouldn't know the truth if it bit him in the butt

Thu, 11/05/2015 - 23:40 | 6756517 newworldorder
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As moronic as McCanin can be on many subjects, - on the premise of this article, - he is correct. The WH has no ME policy other thatn the rantings of is its resident Iranian agent sitting at the Presidents right hand on many conference tables.

Thu, 11/05/2015 - 23:40 | 6756516 Herodotus
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He's been on the government payroll his entire life.  Never had a real job.

Thu, 11/05/2015 - 23:42 | 6756524 WTFUD
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I'll never forget where i was when McCain never got elected to the Big White-House. As 813 states in his excellent first up comment he should make himself the 51st up Tool in the Syrian Front-line and lead the purge.
This said he was the 1st American Representative to do a photo-shoot with Al Nusrah. It's those psychotic menacing beady eyes that are a dead giveaway.
Moar Pentagon cash to feed Booz Bros & Affiliates is the Cry.

When Barry decides to get off the putting green he should sign the necessary clearances for McCain to be parachuted into Friendly Rebel Territory although this could leave the Peoples of the United States of America with a huge gaping hole at the head seat of all those important committees he sits on. Shucks!

Thu, 11/05/2015 - 23:47 | 6756542 markitect
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Fuck You McCain

Thu, 11/05/2015 - 23:50 | 6756549 Bill of Rights
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Is this the same mcstain photographed with the heads of ISIS that McCain?

http://yournewswire.com/john-mccain-caught-again-senator-photographed-wi...

Thu, 11/05/2015 - 23:51 | 6756552 yogibear
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Drop John McInsane in the middle of the Russians. 

Fri, 11/06/2015 - 05:51 | 6757026 Lurk Skywatcher
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If you think he sang well to the North Vietnamese, just imagine the notes he would hit if given a chance to serenade Russia. Virtuoso!

Thu, 11/05/2015 - 23:53 | 6756557 pupdog1
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Well, I'm dissatisfied that the only reason fucking lightweight McCain even got into the Navy is that daddy and granddaddy were famous admirals.

Thu, 11/05/2015 - 23:54 | 6756560 Nostradumbass
Thu, 11/05/2015 - 23:56 | 6756572 onmail1
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Actually CabalA$$LickerHomObamma is only a puppet , a stooge and a scapegoat to take all the blame. The puppetmasters want all the blame on Obamma and then they will impeach him( or assasinate ). 

McCain was the person who vehemently stated that 'Russia would never intervene in Syria' (so that we take take it and all mid-east like a hot knife into butter)

Everyone knows that McCain is Oil hungry (a demon) who respects no life over money. Its the sinners like him who are making the whole world desolate . 

In his old age McCain should try to do good acts to earn virtue & divine merit so that his burden of sins is reduced.

Thu, 11/05/2015 - 23:57 | 6756574 fishwharf
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What's with the knee pads on the troops in the second picture?  Things sure have changed since I was in the army.  We were not issued knee pads.  Is that a new Obama policy?

Fri, 11/06/2015 - 00:07 | 6756605 anachronism
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I don't know which army you served in. I sure could have used them countless times.

Fri, 11/06/2015 - 03:48 | 6756951 fishwharf
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1/325 Infantry 82nd Airborne 1968 - 1970

Fri, 11/06/2015 - 00:04 | 6756597 robertocarlos
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Maybe Obama won't finish his term. They'll make him a Saint.

Fri, 11/06/2015 - 00:07 | 6756607 kaboomnomic
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This is the man, who barely got sent to battlefield, a........nnnnnddd he got caught. And spent nearly the restof the war as PoW??

What the fuck he knows anything about war? Or bravery for that matter??

Fri, 11/06/2015 - 01:48 | 6756828 Kirk2NCC1701
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Well, he experienced the bravery. It was all around him.

Fri, 11/06/2015 - 00:10 | 6756615 oooBooo
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A quick summary of McCain presidency:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NFkryh6hC-k

 

 

Fri, 11/06/2015 - 00:15 | 6756626 Monetas
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A military coup (coop) .... by the Marine Corps (korps) .... and the American Armed Forces (forks) ?

Fri, 11/06/2015 - 00:23 | 6756640 Monetas
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We are Rome .... and the Muslims are the .... Barbarians ?

Fri, 11/06/2015 - 03:38 | 6756941 cookies anyone
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you are a stain on the panties of humanity

Fri, 11/06/2015 - 00:24 | 6756642 BustainMovealota
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Destroy a country 101.  What did you think "fundamental transformation" meant, anyway?

"America will never be destroyed from the outside. If we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves."

-Abraham Lincoln

Fri, 11/06/2015 - 00:25 | 6756644 XRAYD
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How is it that history seems to begin in 2009 for so many people?

Fri, 11/06/2015 - 00:35 | 6756681 robertocarlos
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2009 was year one after the great financial collapse of 2008. We world ended that day, we just haven't realised it yet.

Fri, 11/06/2015 - 00:26 | 6756646 Sorry_about_Dresden
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ASshat should have died in 'nam!

Fri, 11/06/2015 - 00:27 | 6756648 Omega_Man
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to whom does the US military answer to?

Fri, 11/06/2015 - 00:37 | 6756685 Dre4dwolf
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to whom does the US military answer to?


$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

 

Fri, 11/06/2015 - 00:30 | 6756662 RaceToTheBottom
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McStain is a dirty pair of shorts.

He is too senile to have an opinion about anything, especially what real military think.

 

Fri, 11/06/2015 - 00:31 | 6756666 ShakaZulu
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Even donkeys can talk.

"And the dumbass forbade the madness of the prophet"

Fri, 11/06/2015 - 00:31 | 6756670 remoran
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Our FP is a FUBAR to the max. 

Fri, 11/06/2015 - 00:43 | 6756675 Dre4dwolf
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The reason we have wars is so that the weak people in govt can send the strong to die abroad, this leaves the weak here in charge of all the resources and women to procreate with.

How many stories of soldiers going to war somehow they dont die come back and their wife is sleeping with some pencil pushing effeminate nobody? why do you think modern culture is so effeminate in the media, clothing, everything??

 

This is why the country is so weak compared to say Russia, which lets face it doesnt get involved unless it intends to just go and win.

If the USA wanted to it could completely take over the middle east and make IRAQ, IRAN, SYRIA, LIBYA the 51s 52nd 53rd 54th and so on state and there would be casinos and disney lands as far as the eye could see.

 

But its not what the U.S. govt wants, to the U.S. govt these lands are nothing but meat grinders to throw the strong into.... why do we pussy foot around sending small numbers one by one instead of attacking in mass like RUSSIA?

Because when you send 1 soldier into the meat grinder full of 10 idiots with knives chances are he will die to attrition.

We are spoon feeding our resources into these areas to exterminate the strong individuals in our country so that there are less people to compete with here at home because the people in govt are weak and afraid and want to stay in power so they have to make sure no one around is stronger than them.... this is why they push gun control agendas, vaccination etc....

Vaccines are full of Mercury, Formaldehyde, Mycoplasma (Bacteria without a cell wall) that hijack your cells and cause 100s of disorders that each have different medications for "treatment of symptoms".... but never a cure.

Gun control is only being pushed so the status quo can maintain power and control post-collapse.

 

Its all bullshit.

The country is falling apart at the seams.

I dont understand why soldiers would die for this Govt..... look at our veterans .... they cant even get a sandwich never-mind healthcare and every job they could take is being occupied by an illegal who didn't even have the decency to learn the fucking english language.

People who dont even speak english or have citizenship get more medical treatment than a veteran.

This country is being run ass-backwards by the weak and stupid.

The way the country is being run right now is a complete disgrace to everyone who ever died for this country , everyone in govt should be ashamed of whats going on and we should all be ashamed for letting it continue.

 

The only way you can maintain any sense of moral under the status quo is by heavy medication and drinking and remaining oblivious to the obvious.

 

Fri, 11/06/2015 - 04:16 | 6756967 29.5
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soldiers risk dying because benefits

Fri, 11/06/2015 - 00:32 | 6756676 nc551
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Morale is down because being tricked into doing evil things weighs on the soul.  The less obvious it is the less the effect.  On one end of the spectrum you have the good act of literally defending your home.  On the other you are the brutal invader.  If you are defending your home or BELIEVE you are defending your home, you are good go to.  Half the point of basic training is to make you accept orders as righteous truths whether you understand them or not.  When it starts to become apparent what you are actually doing you either have to bail out or start doing mental gymnastics, to the point of becoming batshit insane... a McCain.  The pig is already head to toe lipstick and more and more are starting to notice.  The burden of these actions on our soldiers and our society in general will have unbelievably profound in/tangible negative societal consequences until we recognize we have a problem and need to stop our current behavior.

Fri, 11/06/2015 - 00:38 | 6756686 dsty
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ZH is the 5th column

just sayn

Fri, 11/06/2015 - 00:41 | 6756691 bunnyswanson
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ZH is a Think Tank

Fri, 11/06/2015 - 01:01 | 6756737 IridiumRebel
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And he is a turd floating in it

Fri, 11/06/2015 - 00:58 | 6756731 NoBillsOfCredit
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so those who believe the Constitution should be followed and acall out the treasonous bastards are the fifth column? Perhaps a fifth column to the traitors!

Fri, 11/06/2015 - 01:08 | 6756751 Dre4dwolf
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If you bring up the constitution in a U.S. or State level court, you are pretty much treated as a "terrorist" or "extremist" or "radical" for the remainder of your business with the court.

-That right there should tell you that the country is fucked, when the govt openly treats its own laws as a joke and laws are dis-proportionally enforced.

 

If a billionaire goes into a court room and makes a stink about his civil liberties being violated he will be served whatever he wants on a silver platter,  or if a bank goes to court and gets caught red handed committing fraud/crimes/funding terrorists... they get treated completely more lenient than an individual fighting a parking ticket.

The govt is more concerned with collecting on moving violations than arresting big-time criminals and regulating banks lol

 

Its a complete joke.... the entire legal/justice system has completely fallen apart like id say about 10 years ago, maybe 7 years ago you could hold a legit case or two, but nowadays its pretty much a free for all and the judges are going out to the highest bidder.

 

Fri, 11/06/2015 - 08:53 | 6757240 flapdoodle
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Very poor and wrong comparison. The fifth column always feigns loyalty to the side they are betraying.

A closer analogue is that ZH an amalgam (as other in this thread have said) of a Think Tank, and "the White Rose".

Surely you know what I've refering to when I mention "the White Rose"...

Fri, 11/06/2015 - 00:40 | 6756689 Eahudimac
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Wait, what?!?!?! Didn't McCain help create our new BFFs, ISIS?  I guess the low morale is because Russia is bombing McCain's bearded bro's driving around in the desert in new white toyota trucks? Or maybe the military has finally figued out that they are being sent to die for zionists, banksters, MIC and the deep state and the people sending them there don't give two fucks if they come back alive, maimed or dead. 

Fri, 11/06/2015 - 00:54 | 6756718 Dre4dwolf
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The people who run wounded warriros probably fund politiicans who will promote a high war policy, cant have wounded warriors to profit off of if there is no war for them to get hurt in afterall.

This is how the country is fucking run.

 

Instead of making wounded warrior projects.

How about

The invincible warrior project where each one of our guys sent abroad get air-dropped in a nuclear powered battle mech?

Wtf would these shit middle eastern failed states do if all of the sudden there were battalions of 100-300 heavy armored mechs with laser weapons running around?

They would shit themselves and convert to Christianity, thats what.

And we do have the tech to doit.

But 3 - 4 soldiers lives arent worth 10-million dollars, even though a single B2 costs more than a space shuttle and the damn thing became obsolete before it ever even practically got used.

 

Fri, 11/06/2015 - 00:52 | 6756715 Atomizer
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Coming from the same guy whose branding ¡Jeb. Fuck off McCain. Tell Karl Rove to bankrupt his eggnest on Google Trends. Don't worry, Hillary is next 

Fri, 11/06/2015 - 00:56 | 6756726 MEFOBILLS
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Putin say's McCain is nuts.  "Anybody would go crazy after being in a pit for two years."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C-7fi0-Jii4

Video of his comments.

Fri, 11/06/2015 - 12:39 | 6758251 JohninMK
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Putin should know.

He's probably read the Russian interrogator's version of events in McCain's 'interviews'.

Now if Wikileaks outed that!!!

Fri, 11/06/2015 - 01:14 | 6756761 enloe creek
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Colin Powell sucked rumsfeld and chenys dicks. The rest of the brass stood still they are little whores sucking off th e government teat.  Traitorous scum

Fri, 11/06/2015 - 02:41 | 6756787 Jack Oliver
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We genocided some folks - We impoverished millions of folks - We gave some folks babies with generational birth defects - We displaced millions and milions of folks - We droned some folks - We killed 3 million folks in Vietnam - their crime ?? These folks were COMMUNISTS  - Most recently we 'migrated' some folks with the intent of destroying Europe AND all of it's folks !! We are exceptional !

Fri, 11/06/2015 - 01:48 | 6756829 Joe A
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Local people on the ground also not very content with Obama's policy but they would be even less happy with McCain and his neocon bunch's policy.

Fri, 11/06/2015 - 01:56 | 6756841 elephant
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McCain & Lindsey Graham are the premier Zionist stooges on Capital Hill.  

Fri, 11/06/2015 - 09:51 | 6756853 anachronism
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The Pentagon Brass should have been angry enough to threaten mass resignations during the Clinton era, before there was 9-11. Once into this endless war, that was not an option. But the top brass could have stood with Shinseki in 2002, backed Sanchez in 2006 or Fallon in 2007. They didn't. It is a little late to be mad at this POTUS. 

If you regard these 50 Special Forces guys more as human shields, acting as target acquisition and damage assessment observers, you might consider that 50 is an adequate number. Through them, the USAF can target more effectively. through them the US can notify the Rusians that our planes are operating in the sky above our rebels (which, presumably, would prevent them from bombing our terrorists). Please note that I don't like this deployment at all; I am just arguing that it can make a difference.

That said, the US Military has been worn down by 14 years figting wars of subjugation and suppressions of lightly-armed irregulars. We have fractured our military fighting units into small units with stretched-out and poorly-maintained logistics trails. At many critical engagements during this war, there was no ready reaction force available to reinforce our scattered infantry.

It would take at least 6 years of no foreign deployments, during which the Army and Marines can rest recoup retrain re-equip, and reorganize before they can fight effectively against a worthy adversary, such as the Russians. I am afraid that the Air Force could take much longer, since its fleet of F-15s is worn out; there are not enough F-22s; and the F-35s may never ever be combat-worthy.

Then, there is the issue of deployment. I wonder if the brains in all those think tanks in DC have figured out how to deploy a fighting force while the Russians are exploding missiles amidst the airborne and naval flotillas trying to get our forces into the war zone.

These tabletop warriors have a lot more to be mad about themselves than they do about this astonishingly ineffective president.

Fri, 11/06/2015 - 02:21 | 6756868 YouThePeople
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Wow. He is completeley gone. What a sick twisted fuck. Obviiously no VA mental health benefits for him.. What a lost crazy old useless fuck he is.

Fri, 11/06/2015 - 02:30 | 6756882 danepol
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Though you report McCain negatively (sady aping the CNN approach to all things critical of the emperor without clothes), fact is that the US has overlooked or forgotton the ancient wisdom neatly encapsulated as 'si vis pacem, para bellum', and Obama is responsible. I don't know how that plans out but the warnings from her military leaders should not be dismissed.

Fri, 11/06/2015 - 02:53 | 6756899 Pliskin
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Hurry up and die already, you senile old fuck.

Fri, 11/06/2015 - 03:13 | 6756924 foxenburg
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@Pliskin. I hope that's McCain you refer to, and not Ron Paul, lol.

Fri, 11/06/2015 - 03:11 | 6756920 Free_Spirit
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The pentagon had their chance when Colin Powell pertetuated the Bush Blair lie in 2003,  guess what, you got want you wanted boys... 

Fri, 11/06/2015 - 03:27 | 6756930 Tiger Rocks Dale
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When we think of Hitler we think of him as an evil bastard, we think of his people as pawns and probably were rightfully bombed for putting this douche into power.  Fast forward 70 years and Our Government makes Hitler seem like a choir boy. and the general public of the US are zombies.  I don't think this is going to end well for the majority of us. 

Fri, 11/06/2015 - 03:28 | 6756931 Tiger Rocks Dale
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When we think of Hitler we think of him as an evil bastard, we think of his people as pawns and probably were rightfully bombed for putting this douche into power.  Fast forward 70 years and Our Government makes Hitler seem like a choir boy. and the general public of the US are zombies.  I don't think this is going to end well for the majority of us. 

Fri, 11/06/2015 - 03:29 | 6756934 tumblemore
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Apparently it's true there's military hostility over the Isis thing but the hostility is because they don't understand why they've been ordered to bomb sand.

The military people don't realise Washington doesn't want Isis damaged because Isis were created to get rid of Assad.

So given McCain knows, it's pretty amazing chutzpah on his part to use that hostility to threaten el Presidente.

 

Fri, 11/06/2015 - 03:31 | 6756935 cookies anyone
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It is nice to have people in government that have untreatable diseases. It gives you this special optimistic outlook for the future. Does he have any access to nukes?

Fri, 11/06/2015 - 03:44 | 6756942 Kina
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McCain?  Oh that reminds me, have to go clean the sides of my toilet bowl.

Fri, 11/06/2015 - 03:52 | 6756953 Panic Mode
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It's amazing how a Nam soldier *was cooperating with enemy*, now he is the main stream to advocate war to cover his shame.

Fri, 11/06/2015 - 11:37 | 6757972 rejected
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Not really,,, he is still cooperating with the enemy.

I think they called him 'songbird'

Fri, 11/06/2015 - 06:39 | 6756963 NuYawkFrankie
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Senility/Dementia is NO excuse -

- that traitorous scumbag "Mad Dog" McCain should be immediately apprehended, rubber-roomed and thrown a bone, perhaps a Palestinian 5-yr-old's femur, as his his LAST meal... before being "put-down" - along with the rest of those ISIS-Lovin' ZIO-Fluffin' cocksckers in the USSA Knesset.

Fri, 11/06/2015 - 10:22 | 6757666 trulz4lulz
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Although I enjoy your idea. The Palestinian femur was too much for me. In the true spirit of McInsane only the femure from one of his own children would do, while we made his child watch him eat it. Ten we sould terminate his fmaily in order to destroy his bloodline, also, its how the Us military operates, so it just seems the most fitting to give hime the same treatment that we deal.

Fri, 11/06/2015 - 04:36 | 6756975 lolmao500
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Overthrow/Impeach his ass then... or shut the fuck up

Fri, 11/06/2015 - 04:36 | 6756976 Falling Down
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.Hack calling the kettle black

LOL

Who the fuck would follow McShamnesty into battle?!?

 

Fri, 11/06/2015 - 04:52 | 6756979 MauritiusGold
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How many more innocent do you want dead McCain? Think we should start with you. End of a rope like Saddam....

Fri, 11/06/2015 - 05:31 | 6757000 dreadnaught
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McCain dead from Heart attack/stroke in 3....2....1....

Fri, 11/06/2015 - 11:34 | 6757956 rejected
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Those asswipes have the best medical coverage of the entire planet.... all paid for by the 'little people' ,,, you and I.  Notice, kind person, they weren't stupid enough to use ObamaCare.

Fri, 11/06/2015 - 06:01 | 6757037 Jack Oliver
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Turns out Saddam wasn't that bad ! Hindsight huh ??

Fri, 11/06/2015 - 11:29 | 6757925 rejected
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Saddam offered a dual to the weenie in charge with the weenie getting the choice of weapons. The weenie refused and sent other peoples sons and daughters to suffer and die while killing off half of the Iraqis and salting their land with radiation.

Saddam was a man,,, something the last three weenies and most likely all following can't / won't be accused of. He said at the time America would be sorry for doing this shit and he is turning out right.

Fri, 11/06/2015 - 05:48 | 6757021 Captain Obvious.
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OK Done talking. Lets have a show of hands.

All in favor of McCain say aye. 

(Is this mike on?)

 

Fri, 11/06/2015 - 05:51 | 6757024 jcbudmo
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Insane John McCain, why give the murderous parasitic c*nt the oxygen of publicity.

Fri, 11/06/2015 - 06:01 | 6757031 soniii
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sound to me like he's trying to spread some truth to his own agenda for sure still ..

dont really understand the hate here,(don't really know his past maybe)but if you put his past aside looks like he's tired of obama/Cia operations and wants :

full military intervention and retard mode activated murikaaaaa gogogo kill

or

to stop the us warmongering machine and maybe WWIII in the process ? 

anyway its still cool to spread some truth even biased, obama must be mad 

Fri, 11/06/2015 - 06:37 | 6757066 grekko
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Maybe McCain should join Al Nursra  the Syrian moderates as their Air Force.  It would be a real plus for Putin.  Look what Johnny boy did to his own carrier during the Vietnam conflict.  We could hope for more of the same.

Fri, 11/06/2015 - 06:08 | 6757046 cn13
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McCain is number 3 on my "Please Hurry Up and Die List"

Greenspan in number 1.

Dimon and Blankenfien tie for number 2.

Fri, 11/06/2015 - 06:32 | 6757059 grekko
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My list is pretty close.  Put the Almighty Dollar at the top of the list, then move everyone else down one notch and you got it right.

Fri, 11/06/2015 - 06:09 | 6757049 lakecity55
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Bath House:

"Tonight, we uncovered a huge plot by the armed forces to ovethrow me. I have assumed command. All our armed forces are under arrest. The SA, err, uhh, dhs is now in command. With our new recruits from South of the Border and Syria, they are now larger and more powerful than the armed forces. That is all."

Fri, 11/06/2015 - 06:32 | 6757060 ebear
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todos sus base pertenecen a nosotros!

Fri, 11/06/2015 - 06:39 | 6757067 JDFX
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He's on record saying the moderates could be supplied with weapons that would hinder Russian air offensives , some weeks back. By that, I take it as he was smirking, to supply surface to air missles capable of taking out aircraft.  

 

Gee, like they're not gonna be used on Western targets then, eh John ?  Cheers mate, for help making the world a safer place. 

 

I've concluded, the elite, want global pockets of chaotic civil unrest .  Why else create chaos in mid east, and further expand it, to start it in EU,  via importing waves of people of prmitive cultures, and dropping them amongst democratised citizenry ?   KABOOOOOOOM ! 

 

These psychopaths are crazy  not to think that a 10 year old with a smart phone wont twig whats going on.... 

 

Maybe they frame it as assited natural brush burning or something , on the old planetary human farm ? 

 

 

Fri, 11/06/2015 - 06:40 | 6757068 danepol
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I am not an American and I know squat about McCain, but I know enough to realise that he's probably right. Hows' that? 'Cos all the posters here are in agreement that he's wrong.

"When all the dunces are in a conspiracy against him, then shall you know a true genius."

Fri, 11/06/2015 - 06:40 | 6757070 JDFX
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Except he's on record saying we could arm the moderates with weaponary to hinder the Russian air assaults. 

Fri, 11/06/2015 - 07:13 | 6757106 Rip van Wrinkle
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You can't be that stupid.

Fri, 11/06/2015 - 11:17 | 6757883 rejected
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Your logic just made for a great laugh. Haven't laughed that hard in weeks. Thank you!

Fri, 11/06/2015 - 17:55 | 6759838 messystateofaffairs
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Are you feeling ok? You don't sound well.

Fri, 11/06/2015 - 06:50 | 6757078 pupdog1
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We're going to have to drop a star off the flag if Arizona keeps reelecting this warmongering psychopathic chowderhead.

Fri, 11/06/2015 - 11:14 | 6757861 rejected
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Okay,,, One more Time,,, DieBolds election machines are voting that asshole in office. Arizonans are nothing more than ballot fodder for the machines.

Fri, 11/06/2015 - 07:08 | 6757102 goldenbuddha454
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Wow, a new and improved version of 'projecting'.

Fri, 11/06/2015 - 07:18 | 6757111 barroter
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I remember McCain cheerleading that debacle in Iraq to begin with. Thanks for kicking that hornet's nest open.

Fri, 11/06/2015 - 09:35 | 6757362 silverer
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McCain is a pain 'cause he drives us insane.  One more time Arizona:  you and everybody else would be better off if you voted a cow into office.

Fri, 11/06/2015 - 07:32 | 6757119 deerhunter
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If we have no enemy we need no MIC. If we have no fractional reserve lending we need very few banks and bankers. If we have doctors who donate 2 days a month for charity and help for legal citizen poor we could eliminate much of Obama care.
Bring all military home from the entire world and build a wall. Let Europe defend it self. Stop all foreign aid. Every last dime of it until we have a balanced budget and the national debt is less than 25% of annual GDP.
Let the world defend itself. Let the world keep the sea lanes open. Let the world keep the friendly skies safe. You trust the dindus of the TSA? Homeland Security sounds a little too much like the Motherland to me.
Let's shake the world. Do all the above.
God , I just woke up. Must have been a bad dream. I dreamt our military was only going to war when a nation landed on our shore and all our military bases world wide had been closed . Back to sleep zzzzzz

Fri, 11/06/2015 - 09:55 | 6757516 coast
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You sound like Ron Paul....xlnt...me too

Fri, 11/06/2015 - 07:33 | 6757120 CaptainMoonlight
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Obama is here to divide and conquer the USA. Almost everyone now knows it. 

 

Military leaders: take the next step. Save and protect the country we all love and you swore to protect.

Fri, 11/06/2015 - 10:26 | 6757679 trulz4lulz
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Thats a good one. Most military men end up  as US Police Officcers and those psychopathic steroid abusing cunts kill more Americans every year than "terrorists" do!!! What "America" do you think those jack booted thugs are goiing to want to protect? I'll tell you which one, the one that pays them to be jack booted thugs.

Fri, 11/06/2015 - 13:35 | 6758490 InnVestuhrr
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They do not have the brains + balls - they are genetic FOLLOWERS.

Fri, 11/06/2015 - 07:41 | 6757130 JailBanksters
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You mean they are not willing to kill people for the benefit of a few Zionists.

That's rather selfish, just thinking about themselves

Fri, 11/06/2015 - 07:49 | 6757140 overmedicatedun...
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mccain still in office? obuma voters are real, us dumb and dumber americans blew pax americana..nwo marches on..the military take orders ..the brave men then kill and maim, as elite leader and water boy for NWO H. kissinger called the military "dumb animals", he really was talking about john Q public.

for the record some of us came to our senses long ago, but diebold voting nullifies any vote against the NWO. good luck to the boys in the service your  leadership are all traitors..and you are dumb animals.

Gen S Butler.."war is a racket."

Fri, 11/06/2015 - 10:32 | 6757700 Dickweed Wang
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. . . . but Diebold voting [electronic voting machines] nullifies any vote against the NWO.

 

You are absolutely right on that point!!  That's why one of the most important reforms that needs to be made in the electoral process, besides getting money out of politics, is to BAN the use of electronic voting machines of ANY kind - nation wide.  This includes the ban of "punch card" voting systems like the ones used in the Florida presidential vote debacle in 2000.  The only type of voting system that should be used is a paper ballot system that has to be hand counted/verified and then kept for any future vote audit that may be required.

Fri, 11/06/2015 - 08:16 | 6757170 SharkBit
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Dear Arizonians: Can you please ensure you do not elect this freaking physco back into office for 6th term to Senate in 2016.  6 year term x 5 times is 30 years of embedding corruption into the establishment and spreading his facist hate and war mongering.  Please do humaity a favor.  Thanks.

In April 2015, McCain announced that he would run for a sixth term in Arizona's 2016 Senate election.

Is there a coorelation between demise of USSA over past 30 years and McCain in office.  I think we hit ground zero.

Fri, 11/06/2015 - 08:23 | 6757191 Wahooo
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Military and nortnesst zionist retirees.

Fri, 11/06/2015 - 09:34 | 6757347 silverer
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Good point.  You Arizonians are draconians.

Fri, 11/06/2015 - 13:13 | 6758387 XitSam
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It's a weird mixed bag.  First in gun rights. Barry Goldwater. Yet we produce the likes of Bruce Babbitt and Janet Napolitano. Rino's like McCain & the desert version of the southern good ol' boy sheriff Boss Arpaio. Raul Grijalva and Gabby Giffords. 

Fri, 11/06/2015 - 09:58 | 6757533 Nanur
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"It's not who votes, it's who counts the votes".   How do you think we got Bush/Cheney for 2 terms?

Fri, 11/06/2015 - 08:19 | 6757178 Wahooo
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Fuck MICcain and his military masters.

Fri, 11/06/2015 - 08:20 | 6757181 Mewa
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Eisenhower's last speach on the industrial military complex is now in full view...this psychopath Mcain had his brain warped in that Viet Cong cage....follow that lunatic and welcome nuclear war around the world....

Neocons are largely the reason why the world is so messed up these days....charge them with treason and lock those psychos up...

American public needs to wake up and deal with these lunatics

 

Fri, 11/06/2015 - 08:20 | 6757183 Fukushima Fricassee
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Obama's core of queers are still gay.

Fri, 11/06/2015 - 08:28 | 6757198 Who was that ma...
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War itself is a "failed strategy" as Mr. McCain should recognize from his Vietnam experiences.

Fri, 11/06/2015 - 13:39 | 6758431 Caleb Abell
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War was never a problem for the Hanoi Songbird.  For most of the War, he was out of danger from enemy fire, and received better treatment than the other prisoners because, unlike them, he collaborated with the North Vietnamese.

To be fair, I have to admit that he was a successful pilot.  He is credited with destroying 5 aircraft, for which he would have been rated an Ace Pilot if those planes did not belong to the US Navy.  In fact, he may have been the most effective military officer since General Custer.

And he is continuing his good work in the US Senate.

His main notable accomplishment ... and the reason for his success ... was that he was smart enought to pick the right wife.  She not only was rich, but she was also a beer heiress.  A beer brewery AND money!  Are there any more attractive qualities that a woman can have?

Fri, 11/06/2015 - 22:39 | 6760522 Who was that ma...
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Big tits.

Fri, 11/06/2015 - 08:29 | 6757201 SharkBit
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Dear Dr. Paul, Where are you when we need you.  Go run for Senate in Arizona to defeat McPhysco.  To answer your question "Does it really make a difference whether a civilian is killed by poison gas or by drone missile or dull knife?" Because it does not fit the narrative that Assad Must Go because he barrel bombs his own people.  I start with the narrative, Assad must go, then just make shit up that fits the narrative.  The more media freindly the better.  USSA at one point justified by "because he uses chemical attacks on his own people" until that was proved a lie.  Now barrel bombs will suffice.  Shame on the corrupt politicians.  And shame on the MSN media that parrots the propaganda.  How can you live with yourselves?  Peace.

Fri, 11/06/2015 - 08:54 | 6757217 Big_Sister_Is_W...
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And the theater ramps up.  This farce delivers to Dems and Republicans.  It gives Democrats the ability to tell their sheep that Obama is breaking his Boots on the Ground promise because of the relentless pressure from those warlike Troglodyte Republicans... and it lets The Republicans (for the benefit of THEIR sheep) demonstrate more assertiveness and military saavy than the weak Democrat Obama... IOW finally "Stand up to him" and "force" him to commit more Troops towards "Allowing us to win".  

It is all just part and parcel of the continuing 2-party charade.  Once Hillary is in office the facade will drop, as she proves she is more of a War Bird than all the McCains and Grahams combined. Prelude to WWIII, Enjoy.

P.S.: A VERY convincing false flag will be required to recapture a lot of conservatives who are SO OVER THE MIDDLE EAST and see no reason not to simply back off and let Russia clean up Obama's mess.

Fri, 11/06/2015 - 09:21 | 6757302 Rhal
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Mcain is an opportunist. Sure, he speaks truth to power today, but he was instumental in arming AlCIAda and ISIS in the first place.

https://youtu.be/eoZKfkqlT3I

Fri, 11/06/2015 - 09:39 | 6757386 Niall Of The Ni...
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Well, they know what to do---see off the House Negro, who whether they  like it or not is their supreme commander, and replace him with someone serious about the defense of the Republic from enemies foreign and domestic.

First order of business: give the Russians a free hand in restoring order in Syria and sending the House of Saud right behind the House Negro.

Second: Bring the boys home to defend the Republic's borders from invasion. You know, their actual job. 

All it would take is some backbone. They need to go do it or stop whining.

Honestly. If I didn't know better I'd ask: why is it that armies never overthrow governments that actually need overthrowing?

Fri, 11/06/2015 - 09:51 | 6757486 Nanur
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Don't blame John McCain. In his old age he's completely forgotten the 60s and 70s with the Vietnam mess. 

Fri, 11/06/2015 - 10:10 | 6757604 Government need...
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McCain just wants other Murrican troops to be captured and tortured in conflicts where there isnt a moral imperative worth fighting for.  Fuck that bastard.  Time for Satan to call him home.

Fri, 11/06/2015 - 10:46 | 6757726 Dickweed Wang
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McCain = A senile, sociopathic. traitorous turd with chipmunk jowls . . .

 

My name is John McCain

I'm working with half a brain

I rant on the Senate floor

To push the U.S. into war

That's why ZHr's call me insane

Fri, 11/06/2015 - 11:04 | 6757809 rejected
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"More than 6 in 10 now disapprove of President Obama’s handling of the threat posed by the Islamic State in Iraq and Syria, according to an Associated Press-GfK poll published Thursday, an 8-point jump compared to a similar poll last January."

These polls are manipulated just like the markets and everything else in the land of the free. Everything's advertising today. Totally fake.

The whole country is a joke,,, and the joke is on us.


Fri, 11/06/2015 - 11:07 | 6757826 roadhazard
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Fuck McCain

Fri, 11/06/2015 - 11:48 | 6758026 DosZap
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Not nearly enough to drag his arse out of 1600 evidently.

Fri, 11/06/2015 - 12:12 | 6758135 fowlerja
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I think it is time to send Johnny back to the "Hotel Hanoi" for some further re-education...

Fri, 11/06/2015 - 13:04 | 6758350 XitSam
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McCain is a senile old fool. Again, I will link to 

Changing the “Macho” Male Culture of the US Military 

The military is completely on board with Obama.

Fri, 11/06/2015 - 17:37 | 6759784 messystateofaffairs
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The Insane Shitstain. A contemptible dose of double dealing dog shit. Putin said it left its mind in the mudpit they imprisoned it in Vietnam but I don't think it ever had a mind.

Fri, 11/06/2015 - 22:00 | 6760419 spqrusa
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Au contraire, the middle east strategy of empowering the Moslim Brotherhood is a complete success for the first Moslim President...

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