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Ben Carson Admits His "Inspirational" West Point Scholarship Story Was Entirely Made Up

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Having surged to the lead (according to some polls) in the GOP presidential nominee race, Ben Carson may have a problem. As Politico reports, Carson's campaign on Friday admitted that a central point in his inspirational personal story (his application and acceptance into the U.S. Military Academy at West Point) was fabricated. The details are stunning as the big lie (something Hillary would be proud of) has been maintained for years, but his PR people are spinning like crazy...

 

The U.S. Military Academy at West Point has occupied a central place in Carson’s tale for years. According to a story told in Carson’s book, “Gifted Hands,” the then-17 year old was introduced in 1969 to Gen. William Westmoreland, who had just ended his command of U.S. forces in Vietnam, and the two dined together. That meeting, according to Carson’s telling, was followed by a “full scholarship” to the military academy.

But, as Politico details, West Point, however, has no record of Carson applying, much less being extended admission.

“In 1969, those who would have completed the entire process would have received their acceptance letters from the Army Adjutant General,” said Theresa Brinkerhoff, a spokeswoman for the academy. She said West Point has no records that indicate Carson even began the application process. “If he chose to pursue (the application process) then we would have records indicating such,” she said.

 

When presented with this evidence, Carson’s campaign conceded the story was false.

 

“Dr. Carson was the top ROTC student in the City of Detroit,” campaign manager Barry Bennett wrote in an email to POLITICO. “In that role he was invited to meet General Westmoreland. He believes it was at a banquet. He can’t remember with specificity their brief conversation but it centered around Dr. Carson’s performance as ROTC City Executive Officer.”

 

“He was introduced to folks from West Point by his ROTC Supervisors,” Bennett went on. “They told him they could help him get an appointment based on his grades and performance in ROTC. He considered it but in the end did not seek admission.”

This admission comes as serious questions about other points of fact in Carson’s personal narrative are questioned, including the seminal episode in which he claimed to have attempted to stab a close friend.

Similarly, details have emerged that cast doubt on the nature of Carson’s encounter with one of the most prominent military men of that era.

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One wonders what happens to this chart next?

 

 

Of course being a blatant lying shitbag is not necessarily going to end his chances of election... just ask the people of East Chicago who just elected a new councilman who is in jail facing murder and drug charges...

 

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Fri, 11/06/2015 - 15:01 | 6758988 darteaus
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The key thing is to have the media on your side.  Because, when you utter the inevitable gaffe [research Joe Biden on youTube], it never makes the news.  You can tell any lie [see: Gayrack or Clintong], and it never becomes an 'OUTRAGE!'

Fri, 11/06/2015 - 13:24 | 6758442 css1971
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Seriously?

US politicians are seriously screwed up.

Fri, 11/06/2015 - 13:25 | 6758445 Schroedingers Cat
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He's on the ticket for entertainment, kinda like Lincoln Chaffee

 

Fri, 11/06/2015 - 13:26 | 6758447 PoasterToaster
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So what do they have planned for Trump?  That's all that stands between Jeb and the nomination.

The real question is why are there so many people still in a Republican party that thumbs its nose and them.  They take in all this money, select who they want, and tell everyone to shove it.  It's a scam and the victims can't find the exit door.  At some point the old "who ya gonna vote for, the other guy?" is not going to cut it.

Fri, 11/06/2015 - 13:27 | 6758453 wisebastard
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next we will find out that he is actually a white guy that idenditfies as a black guy so he died his skin like that one women who was full of shit..................typical for the US............full of shit ass backwards

Fri, 11/06/2015 - 13:43 | 6758518 Bangin7GramRocks
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Like C Thomas Howell in Soul Man!

Fri, 11/06/2015 - 13:29 | 6758459 ToSoft4Truth
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I bet he's good at picking up chicks from the bar around closing time.  Dr. Smooth Roll.

Fri, 11/06/2015 - 13:30 | 6758467 Omega_Man
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he is probably a piss poor doctor.. find all the law suits and deaths he caused...  dig them up.. all doctors have them... then he is toast.. get digging Trump

Fri, 11/06/2015 - 13:30 | 6758468 Raymond_K._Hessel
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I love how Tylers refuse to talk about Carson's time as Carl Everett

https://nesncom.files.wordpress.com/2012/08/6a0115709f071f970b014e8815d0...

http://www.fangraphs.com/statss.aspx?playerid=1249&position=OF

He was far more sensible back then.

Fri, 11/06/2015 - 13:30 | 6758469 Sparehead
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The better he does the more they'll go after him. Like him or not, he represents a huge threat to the carefully crafted racial divide.

So, even if this is true is this really worse than the other front runner making up lies about coming under sniper fire in Bosnia? I won't hold my breath on waiting for someone to ask Hilliary about that one any time soon.

Fri, 11/06/2015 - 13:33 | 6758481 ToSoft4Truth
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 Ideally, Trump or Carson get elected in a wave of Nationalistic Fury, and then a botched assassination exposes the system. 

911 didn’t prod the heard but maybe a ‘Man of the People’ splattered on TV during prime time would work. 

Fri, 11/06/2015 - 13:32 | 6758475 Yen Cross
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    I wonder if Carson and Brian Williams were roommates at some point in their younger years?

  Carson definitely fits the mold of a politician. [delusional lying sociopath]

 

Fri, 11/06/2015 - 14:55 | 6758957 darteaus
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Maybe, but he is clearly behind when it comes to the self-enrichment part of the job.  The model that AGore and the HillBillys seem to have down.

Fri, 11/06/2015 - 13:33 | 6758477 Iconoc
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This demonstrates that he has been vetted at least a little, compared to the current resident.

Fri, 11/06/2015 - 13:33 | 6758478 Iconoc
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This demonstrates that he has been vetted at least a little, compared to the current resident.

Fri, 11/06/2015 - 13:33 | 6758479 mkarolusa
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Surpirse, Surpirse! A man of character, convicition and capability is running for president and the MSM pulls crap out of thin air to submarine him - Ho hum!

Fri, 11/06/2015 - 13:35 | 6758488 I Write Code
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His ghost-written autobiography garbled the story.  The part about the aliens who built the Egyptian pyramids and gave him his medical education with "probes" is probably exaggerated, too.

Fri, 11/06/2015 - 13:36 | 6758492 Yen Cross
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  If you're going to lie, lie large. :-D

Fri, 11/06/2015 - 13:47 | 6758536 Callz d Ballz
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or in other words, lie like a Clinton.

Fri, 11/06/2015 - 13:37 | 6758494 wherewasi
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WTF is wrong with these people?

Fri, 11/06/2015 - 13:39 | 6758500 falconflight
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A high school kid (Black kid living in the Ghetto) from Detriot in 1969 misunderstanding the nomination process to West Point is hardly making up anything.  Fck you Tyler and the rest of you PutzinProles.

Fri, 11/06/2015 - 13:41 | 6758509 devo
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No surprise the guy is clearly insane, and based on the number of medical malpractice suits against him, you have to wonder if he's even a doctor.

Fri, 11/06/2015 - 13:56 | 6758576 devo
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2 negs already? Wow, the bunker-dwelling "libertarians" are getting desperate supporting Ben Carson. Lolol. This guy is your great hope, really?

Fri, 11/06/2015 - 14:12 | 6758656 farflungstar
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SJWs whose feelings were hurt - blacks are being trained to be as sensitive as the jews

Fri, 11/06/2015 - 14:15 | 6758664 devo
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Oh good point; I forgot about SJWs. I'm 6% black, btw, and not offended by anything...and frankly my dong is thankful for it.

Fri, 11/06/2015 - 13:44 | 6758522 dogismycopilot
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Not uncommon for Officer Commissioning Programs to cherry pick bright Boys from ROTC. Westmoreland probably did take a shine to him.

Fuck we have all told some whoppers but CNN will crucify him. He's done.

Sat, 11/07/2015 - 01:38 | 6758550 IridiumRebel
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He's done.

Edit: I retract this statement after hearing more.
This may be good for him. Possible imbellishment but you'd think the guy raped a cat from our pathetic MSM.

Fri, 11/06/2015 - 13:49 | 6758543 dsty
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once again CNN and the likes distort a story and ya'll fall for it

Ben was in ROTC and he did meet the general

he decided not to go becuase it was a 4 year military commitmen

smart move I say

Cant you figure that Politico and CNN are just hackmasters for the LIBTARDS!

They are the liars and the distorters

THey brought you Obama and Hillary

Can you figure that out?

Fri, 11/06/2015 - 14:09 | 6758641 ShrNfr
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If you are looking to do a premed program, West Point is not the place to go. The left is getting really hot and bothered that there is a blackie that is not staying on the plantation.

Fri, 11/06/2015 - 14:53 | 6758935 darteaus
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Dhimmicrats were, AND ARE, the party of slavery, and the "Confederate Flag" is their battle standard.

Fri, 11/06/2015 - 13:50 | 6758554 pocomotion
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He would have done just as well standing in the debates doing 100% fake sign language and he would be leading in the polls just fine.  Bahahahahahahahahahaha

Fri, 11/06/2015 - 13:53 | 6758563 Fishthatlived
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Um...he never said he applied to or attended West Point.

Fri, 11/06/2015 - 13:59 | 6758591 dogismycopilot
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Westmoreland would have walked the ap through IF Carson had applied.

Fuck. I personally thing no big deal but msm will crucify him by his nut sack.

Fri, 11/06/2015 - 13:54 | 6758566 Pumpkin
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But liars make the best politicians.

Fri, 11/06/2015 - 13:58 | 6758585 pocomotion
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Hay man, I got accepted at Carnigy pool-hall. Mellon was good study and placing them in the truck.  Now I am a candy-date for office.,

Fri, 11/06/2015 - 13:58 | 6758586 MR166
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"When was the last time we elected a lying black guy for president? 

Oh wait"

 

That is the saddest part, Obama did not lie.  He has done everything that he promised.  The dumb American public are to blame since they disregarded his past history and failed to admit to themselves the full meaning of his words.  The first time is a mistake the second time is inexcusable.

Fri, 11/06/2015 - 13:58 | 6758587 Lucky Leprachaun
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If Carson were White nobody would have heard of him. Just like Obomber. Haven't the American people learned from that mistake?

Fri, 11/06/2015 - 13:58 | 6758589 vegas
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Double standards on "Full Metal Jacket" as the MSM does its best to take down a black conservative. Where were these types of "investigative journalism" for one Chalky Soetero? You know, the "Choom Gang" stoner; the liar about your health care; the liar about Benghazi, the IRS, & Iran? Oh wait.. I forgot .. Chalky is "down with the struggle" and a Libtard DEM. WTF.

 

www.traderzoo.mobi

Fri, 11/06/2015 - 14:02 | 6758607 RushRoolz
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and don't forget about lying about his education!

 

Fri, 11/06/2015 - 14:50 | 6758923 darteaus
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Closing Gitmo, etc.

What has he told the truth about?

Fri, 11/06/2015 - 14:07 | 6758594 falconflight
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Putzin and his many 'bareback mountain' manly photo ops; staged or is he really is on the down low?  

Fri, 11/06/2015 - 14:10 | 6758642 farflungstar
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you looking for a date? probably you should set your sights down a little more realistically, Lance. 

Fri, 11/06/2015 - 14:16 | 6758668 falconflight
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Hey open wide faggot.

Fri, 11/06/2015 - 14:21 | 6758701 farflungstar
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Listen Julian, you gotta do better than that.

I can see why you're so lonely. 

Fri, 11/06/2015 - 14:34 | 6758793 falconflight
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Is there some significance to using the names Lance and then Juilian?  

Fri, 11/06/2015 - 14:37 | 6758811 farflungstar
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Article has nothing to do with Putin, yet like a lovesick little bitchfag you can't stop talking about him.

 

Fri, 11/06/2015 - 14:43 | 6758872 falconflight
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butthurt?  There are plenty of impotent Slaaaaaavs you can have your way w/ at ZHemmroids.  

Fri, 11/06/2015 - 14:21 | 6758700 darteaus
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Photos are definately staged, so it's doubtful he's on the DL.

Gayrack, OTOH, consistently projects "Family Man".  That would be the image to project if you're indeed on the DL.

Fri, 11/06/2015 - 14:02 | 6758608 falconflight
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Recollection of an event circa 1969; a conversation from 1969...Yeah 

Fri, 11/06/2015 - 14:06 | 6758622 falconflight
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Can Major Putzin recall that conversation w/ Premier Andropov when he was promised the Deputy Secretariate of the KGB if he could boost Gulag applications by 130,000 per annum?  

 

Fri, 11/06/2015 - 14:08 | 6758632 farflungstar
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AmeriKa had her fill and will NOT go back-to-back with black presidents. 

Fri, 11/06/2015 - 14:12 | 6758654 PoasterToaster
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Low rent racist trolls trying to get Zero Hedge into the racist camp for proper labeling and dismissal as a discussion outlet.

Fri, 11/06/2015 - 14:26 | 6758719 farflungstar
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Low rent SJWs paralyzed with fear over criticizing a black man running for President who is full of shit. 

Only when whining PC thugs and leftist bloggers take over here will ZH no longer be a good discussion outlet.

Fri, 11/06/2015 - 14:09 | 6758635 TabakLover
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Carson...scariest guy on the POTUS wannabie list IMO.

Fri, 11/06/2015 - 14:11 | 6758650 PoasterToaster
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Jeb "Israel First" Bush is by far the scariest warmonger on the list.  He will usher in WW III.

Fri, 11/06/2015 - 14:19 | 6758683 darteaus
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Gayrack has pretty much tee'd it all up, AND he still has time on the clock.

Fri, 11/06/2015 - 14:19 | 6758684 darteaus
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Gayrack has pretty much tee'd it all up, AND he still has time on the clock.

Fri, 11/06/2015 - 14:23 | 6758710 I AM SULLY
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Carson and Trump are WHY Jeb Bush will be the nomination.

(but please - believe whatever nonsense you wish)

Fri, 11/06/2015 - 14:37 | 6758813 PoasterToaster
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Jeb will be the nominee because that is who the inner circle decided it was going to be.  Nobody else has any say in the matter.

Fri, 11/06/2015 - 14:11 | 6758647 quadratic_equation
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The word "SCHOLARSHIP" already tells it's a lie.  Scholarship are not given at any of the US service academies.  All applicants have the same chance at getting an appointment to one of the Academies based on grades, SAT scores, extra curricular activities and physical abilities, besides a recommendation from a US congress person in your district or from a US senator in your state.  Another possibilty is a child of a Medal of Honor recipient.  I know this for a fact since my daughter is a graduate of one of the service academies.  When Carson said in his book he was offered scholarship at West Point, immediately it registered as bs.  Gen Westmoreland couldn't have offered him scholarship because the General didn't have the authority to do that.  Perhaps a letter of recommendation would have been more appropriate.  Also when he said he didn't accept West Point because he wanted to be a doctor is again another bs.  West Point graduates has the same chance in getting acceptance to medical school as any other colleges.  There's been several West Point graduates that went directly to medical school paid for by the US Army.  Again it depends on the student getting accepted to medical school.

Fri, 11/06/2015 - 14:20 | 6758694 dogismycopilot
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Westmoreland could have given him a Letter of Rec and "walked" the application through the pipeline....but Carson would have needed to apply first. Chalk up to lazy language on ghost writer or even bad memories but Carson is TOAST
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Fucking Obama laughing his ass off fo sure my negro.

Fri, 11/06/2015 - 14:33 | 6758782 MadVladtheconquerer
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The military also has its own medical school since 1972:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uniformed_Services_University_of_the_Healt...

Fri, 11/06/2015 - 14:45 | 6758894 WillyGroper
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Semantics.

Yes, application is the same as other institutions with recommendation.

The difference being they're not paying tuition after acceptance.

Unless becoming a "Cherry Marine" is a requirement in lieu of payment.

Fri, 11/06/2015 - 14:11 | 6758649 Hubbs
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What I would like to know is how good a neurosurgeon was Carson? Even though he may have  been at Johns Hopkins, it's a dirty little secret that a few/some physicians in academia are TERRIBLE surgeons. 

How long did Ron Paul last as an OB-GYN in private practice=in the trenches? 40 yrs? Now that, like some neurosurgery practices, is indeed a daunting career.

Rand Paul? As an opthamolgist, especially if doing cataracts (cataract cowboy) well, not much in comparison. I call it  medical accounting: Counting how many cataracts you can suck out (phaco-emulsification) in a day and pulling  the "Ka ching" lever.

So did Carson bail out of medicine because he was no good? Did he bail because he was good, but got tired of all the bureaucratic/academic BS? Or did he bail because he wanted to make a positive career choice and change the course of politics/country? Or did he check out as a way of cashing out as his status of being a doctor, hoping to parlay that into politics as an "easier" way to make a living?

Fri, 11/06/2015 - 14:36 | 6758805 PoasterToaster
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Why is the Bush family still in charge of the Republican nomination process?

Fri, 11/06/2015 - 14:12 | 6758657 BeaverCream
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He dindu nuffin.

Fri, 11/06/2015 - 14:35 | 6758804 darteaus
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If you were Muslim, would your name be: Kareem Beefer?

Fri, 11/06/2015 - 14:18 | 6758678 darteaus
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I know Hillary and Bill make lying look easy, but leave it to the professionals.

Fri, 11/06/2015 - 14:18 | 6758680 CHoward
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So then it really is a BLACK 'THING' then.  We never got to look at Obama's college transcripts either.  Do they exist?!? 

Fri, 11/06/2015 - 14:36 | 6758808 Kprime
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blacks give the bell curve it's smooth shape.  someone has to occupy the bottom of the curve.

Fri, 11/06/2015 - 14:20 | 6758690 silverer
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That's cool.  It doesn't matter.  I walked away when he waffled on the 2nd amendment.  The buck stops there.

Fri, 11/06/2015 - 14:20 | 6758697 quadratic_equation
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The word "SCHOLARSHIP" already tells it's a lie.  Scholarship are not given at any of the US service academies.  All applicants have the same chance at getting an appointment to one of the Academies based on grades, SAT scores, extra curricular activities and physical abilities, besides a recommendation from a US congress person in your district or from a US senator in your state.  Another possibilty is a child of a Medal of Honor recipient.  I know this for a fact since my daughter is a graduate of one of the service academies.  When Carson said in his book he was offered scholarship at West Point, immediately it registered as bs.  Gen Westmoreland couldn't have offered him scholarship because the General didn't have the authority to do that.  Perhaps a letter of recommendation would have been more appropriate.  Also when he said he didn't accept West Point because he wanted to be a doctor is again another bs.  West Point graduates has the same chance in getting acceptance to medical school as any other colleges.  There's been several West Point graduates that went directly to medical school paid for by the US Army.  Again it depends on the student getting accepted to medical school.

Fri, 11/06/2015 - 14:47 | 6758904 rejected
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"All applicants have the same chance at getting an appointment to one of the Academies based on grades, SAT scores, extra curricular activities and physical abilities, besides a recommendation from a US congress person in your district or from a US senator in your state."

 

That was old school. Back when the MacArthur's and Patton's and other great generals were groomed. 

Today,,, Race, Gender, and Sexual Preference have more sway then anything else.

Fri, 11/06/2015 - 14:22 | 6758708 homiegot
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You're done, bro. Pack up and GTFO.

Fri, 11/06/2015 - 14:24 | 6758714 Latitude25
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Maybe not a neurosurgeon either.  It sounds good though.

Fri, 11/06/2015 - 15:27 | 6759179 Kirk2NCC1701
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SHOW ME THE TRANSCRIPTS of his university education!

Given that he's running for POTUS, that should be a matter of Public Record.

Fri, 11/06/2015 - 14:27 | 6758731 MadVladtheconquerer
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Affirmative Action in action!

Fri, 11/06/2015 - 14:30 | 6758760 rejected
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Well, at least they didn't seize and seal all records and certificates of birth like the hope and change fella we all know and love!

Fri, 11/06/2015 - 14:30 | 6758761 1stepcloser
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Well at least a story didn't break claiming he was kenyan

Fri, 11/06/2015 - 14:34 | 6758791 Kprime
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give it some time.

Fri, 11/06/2015 - 14:31 | 6758769 Venice13
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Another fucked up negro. Looks like I'm voting for the fucked up white guy.

Fri, 11/06/2015 - 14:31 | 6758770 Mr. Cynic
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Hey, Carson, go sit on the bench with Brian Williams.

Sheesh!  Can we just have an honest candidate for once?

Fri, 11/06/2015 - 14:36 | 6758772 falconflight
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It is a scholarship in general terms, and one would have to apply, and it would have to reviewed and approved.  General Westmoreland sitting w/ him, even if at a bouquet table with others, and saying 'your academic and military record' (mind you months after Detroit suffered the most massive riots in US history) 'makes you a shoo in if you want to attend because I can assure you of that if you want.'  How many blacks in the service academies in 1969?  

This nothing story has already received more attention than VP Biden considering for months with huge media attention running for the 2016 Presidency in the wake of him dropping out of that race in 1988 for multiple bouts of plagiarism (Which received zero attention).  

Fri, 11/06/2015 - 14:33 | 6758785 Kprime
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at least Trump doesn't pretend he's not exaggerating, we all know that's a given.

Fri, 11/06/2015 - 14:36 | 6758806 CaptainMoonlight
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No wonder this guy was so quiet...

 

TRUMP ALL THE WAY!

 

President Trump

Vice President Cruz

Speaker Paul

 

2016 DREAM TEAM

 

Let's make America great again.

Fri, 11/06/2015 - 14:37 | 6758818 CaptainMoonlight
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Carson just fking Cristie'd himself.

Fri, 11/06/2015 - 14:38 | 6758810 diana_in_spain
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Sounds like he has all the qualifications to be president! this is exactly what the powers want (a good liar)!

Fri, 11/06/2015 - 14:37 | 6758816 Kprime
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a mind is a terrible thing to waste....and we already have enough door stops.

Fri, 11/06/2015 - 15:05 | 6759015 o r c k
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And waste is a terrible thing to mind.

Fri, 11/06/2015 - 14:39 | 6758828 roadhazard
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Carson= not the smartest black in the drawer.

Fri, 11/06/2015 - 14:39 | 6758836 PoasterToaster
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What's "a black"?

Fri, 11/06/2015 - 14:40 | 6758849 falconflight
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One drop rule.

Fri, 11/06/2015 - 14:41 | 6758860 Kprime
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loose sock in the drawer

Fri, 11/06/2015 - 14:39 | 6758829 PoasterToaster
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#RacistDipshitTrollLivesMatter

Fri, 11/06/2015 - 14:41 | 6758838 Kprime
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Obama's response,

"If i had a brother...."

Fri, 11/06/2015 - 14:41 | 6758857 CaptainMoonlight
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Let's not lower Carson to Obama's level. Obama's on like the 1000th level of Hades.

Fri, 11/06/2015 - 14:40 | 6758841 humanstakeaction
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He's not suited for office if he can't do a better job covering up his own bullshit. Hillary would be calling this a vas right wing conspiracy and would have the West Point admissions person discredited, retired, or other something more ominous.

Fri, 11/06/2015 - 14:40 | 6758844 cpnscarlet
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What's the matter Ben, not proud enough of your ROTC legacy, so you had to make up stories about one of the US military's "vocational" schools. FU.

A 4-yr CSP ROTC Grad and proud of it.

Fri, 11/06/2015 - 14:41 | 6758850 Raul44
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Ok so I was wrong about him after all, Trump be it then.

Fri, 11/06/2015 - 14:44 | 6758885 CaptainMoonlight
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I feel you brother. I was thinking Carson for Speaker, like this:

Pres Trump

VP Cruz

Speaker Carson... 

 

But I wasn't 100% on Carson, and I could not figure out why. Not racist, I just didn't feel all-in on the guy. 

So now it's:

President Trump

VP Cruz

Speaker Paul

 

That's the freedom dream team. Trump is the leader with the vision and the balls. Cruz is the "smarter than all ya'll mfers" genius who knows the constitution and the law better than anyone on the planet, and Paul keeps making sure they all keep it aiming right at freedom. Can't lose.

 

 

Fri, 11/06/2015 - 15:23 | 6759142 MickV
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Cruz knows enough about the Constitution to know that he is not eligible. He was born in Canada and had Canadian citizenship until recently, and probably still has Cuban citizenship.

He is definitely not a natural born Citizen, i.e one born in the US to US Citizen parents--- where no foreign allegiance can be had.

VP must also be a natural born Citizen since the 12th Amendment.

Fri, 11/06/2015 - 16:08 | 6759391 MR166
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I think that you had better bone up on the Supreme Court rulings. 

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natural-born-citizen_clause

Fri, 11/06/2015 - 16:12 | 6759409 MR166
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BTW This is why the whole Obama birther fiasco was such a sham.  The MSM just wanted to distract us from the real issues that were happening at that time.  The reality was that it just did not matter where he was born.   This is all part of the "Distract Them With BS" form of governance.

Fri, 11/06/2015 - 14:41 | 6758858 humanstakeaction
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He's not suited for office if he can't do a better job covering up his own bullshit. Hillary would be calling this a vast right wing conspiracy and would have the West Point admissions person discredited, retired, or other something more ominous.

Fri, 11/06/2015 - 14:56 | 6758908 truthalwayswinsout
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I went to the Naval Academy. I was appointed by my Congressman. There are appointments for enlisted people who attend a special program but never heard of high ranking officers having an option to appoint anyone. 

It is harder to get into the Service Academies than to stay there. Once there, it is fairly easy to graduate if you can tolerate the games played.

Also, while the engineering aspects of the education are superior, their education related to common sense and history, which are extraodrinarily important, are extremely substandard.

Highly educated engineering drones are produced in great numbers.

People who can think and reason in the real world are not part of the program.

Looking back confirms why our military has been "great" in many aspects. It was citizen soldliers fighting for their friends and the desire to get back home which produced victory. NOT ANY SPECIFIC STRATEGY BY THOSE IN CHARGE. That is the main reason why we won WWII.

In the transition over to a professional military, you notice highly superior weapons but moronic and stupid use and repeated attemtps to change things that cannot be changed. Fighting in Afghanistan, and getting between Sunni and Shia, is about the dumbest things that can be done. 

 

 

 

 

 

Fri, 11/06/2015 - 15:24 | 6759155 Ex Cathedra
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Some have suggested abolishing the service academies.  Most of the heads of of the Joint Chiefs of Staff have not come from them. Instead, we might try the British system.  You graduate from the college of your choice.  Only then to you attend a service academy, where the entire curiculem is military studies. 

Fri, 11/06/2015 - 14:50 | 6758914 Jameson18
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How come the media can find this information out so quick but can't find Obama birth cert. or where he was for 4 years. How come they couldn't find Hillary or Lerner's emails?

Obama lies on a daily basis and not one piece of shit media person writes about it. So I just ignore any story like this.

Fri, 11/06/2015 - 15:21 | 6759125 Ex Cathedra
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Off your meds? 

Fri, 11/06/2015 - 14:50 | 6758919 CaptainMoonlight
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I'd like something added to US law that says, "If the people nominate a president, and he turns out to be a terrorist and starts destroying the United States, we can execute him." You never know, we could just need it someday. 

 

Fri, 11/06/2015 - 21:14 | 6758925 bigkahuna
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No problem with Ben Carson. This smear is a complete or partial lie - no problems. He is an outsider and the insiders are trying to Herman Cain him out of the race.

 

edit: since it has come out that he is in favor of the TPP, there is a problem if it is true.

Fri, 11/06/2015 - 14:53 | 6758945 flysofree
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Who is fronting this guy? Koch? He appears to me as another Allen West, the nut case black Congressman, sponsored by Koch.

Fri, 11/06/2015 - 15:21 | 6759121 Ex Cathedra
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Alan West, the only Congressman who received a Less Than Honorable Discharge after being forced out of the Army.

Fri, 11/06/2015 - 14:55 | 6758955 Petrodollar Sys...
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"As a poor black boy without guidance or hope for a productive future, being invited to speak with the General felt like winning the lottery for my family. At the time, it felt to me that I was going to have an opportunity to elevate beyond what were assumed to be inevitable societal limitations, and perhaps my expectations after this meeting were inflated due to my naivete. How much more can the liberal media tarnish the image of impoverished African American children? Would I be less of a target if I had grown up in Hawaii, smoking marijuana cigarettes with my upper class friends while attending expensive private schools? This is just an another example of the liberal media creating a divide on the basis of skin color."

This is the Rubio Zinger that Carson needs to respond with.

Fri, 11/06/2015 - 15:11 | 6759052 humanstakeaction
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You're hired.

Fri, 11/06/2015 - 15:20 | 6759116 Ex Cathedra
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The real zinger:  I know Obama is a Dark Sith Lord in disguise.

The right will eat that up!

Fri, 11/06/2015 - 15:28 | 6759190 I Write Code
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Except for the disguise part.

Fri, 11/06/2015 - 15:00 | 6758984 khakuda
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Proving once again that most people in the C suites of the corporate world and most people running to be the leader of their countries are psychopaths.

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Fri, 11/06/2015 - 15:12 | 6759057 DosZap
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The Politico article is an MSM SMEAR JOB...they LIE:

http://www.dailywire.com/news/960/no-ben-carson-didnt-lie-about-west-point-its-ben-shapiro

 

Oh, wait!, then there is another Great Black Hope.

Let's pray and hope they do not find he was a crack dealer on the side.

Fri, 11/06/2015 - 15:03 | 6759010 adr
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SO, even though there are no real college transcripts for Obama. We are just supposed to believe him.

There was no birth certificate and a ten minute investigation would find that the birth certificate given to the media was a total fabrication.

There are hundreds of lies about Obama's past that we are supposed to believe as truth, because the media says so.

I'm waiting for West Point to say that they in fact received an application from Barrack Obama and it was just found now.

 

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But on to Carson. He probably did get to meet Westmoreland and perhaps was told to apply to West Point. If he never applied then he lied about it to pad his resume. I forgive him a little bit since being a conservative Christian black man doesn't really get you anywhere in America. He still should have come clean before he started to run.

Fri, 11/06/2015 - 15:17 | 6759089 Ex Cathedra
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Obama's college transcripts?

How about W's military service records?

Fri, 11/06/2015 - 15:34 | 6759217 Kirk2NCC1701
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Dubya's Mil records have been scrubbed lily-white by a General in the Texas NG, who later became the #1 guy of the USNG.

No one will ever see the real originals, if they still exist.

Nor will you ever see BHO's transcripts.

Power has its privileges, and the Privileged use their power.

Fri, 11/06/2015 - 19:39 | 6760084 falconflight
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Is that you Dan Fraud-Rather?

Fri, 11/06/2015 - 15:13 | 6759033 DosZap
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Deleted,written based on another HIT JOB,by the fudge packing brigade.

 

 

Fri, 11/06/2015 - 15:12 | 6759055 TheObsoleteMan
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Niggers lie, cheat, kill and steal. If you haven't learned that by now, God help you!

Fri, 11/06/2015 - 15:19 | 6759101 Ex Cathedra
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Christians lie, cheat, kill, and steal.  If you haven't learned that by now, god help you!

Fri, 11/06/2015 - 15:36 | 6759223 Kirk2NCC1701
Fri, 11/06/2015 - 17:23 | 6759720 TheObsoleteMan
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People who POSE as christians; lie, cheat, kill and steal. Fixed it for ya.

Fri, 11/06/2015 - 19:32 | 6760064 falconflight
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Be that as it may, the story is minor factually, but is the height of political subterfuge.  

Fri, 11/06/2015 - 15:13 | 6759065 progro
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Ben just following our best leaders:

Richard Blumenthal (CT) - served in Vietnam - NOT!

Hillary Clinton - flew in under Serbian sniper fire - NOT!

 

But wasn't Ben on Seal Team 6? Yes i think he was.

Fri, 11/06/2015 - 15:17 | 6759085 Ex Cathedra
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George W Bush - Fulfilled his commitment to the Texas Air National Guard - NOT!

Fri, 11/06/2015 - 15:19 | 6759105 progro
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Now, now, when you're an alcoholic partier like GW was, you tend to forget things.

Fri, 11/06/2015 - 15:13 | 6759068 Bloodstock
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The man is an asshole.

Fri, 11/06/2015 - 15:19 | 6759097 hannah
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i usually dont do this..counter a point by saying 'well someone else did the same thing...' arguement...but obama didnt have ANY FUCKING HISTORY AND THAT WAS OK....!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! carson may embellish history but by fuck he has one...!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

who is obama? we still dont know.....

Fri, 11/06/2015 - 15:24 | 6759162 Ex Cathedra
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Who is hannah?  Someone who should be in an institution.

Fri, 11/06/2015 - 15:25 | 6759166 pupdog1
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Scammin' dey man.

Just no end to it.

Fri, 11/06/2015 - 15:36 | 6759185 MR166
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It is perfectly reasonable for a young high school student to think that a general has the ability to get him into West Point.  West Point does not charge tuition so in essence everyone gets a scholarship to attend.

 

This whole issue is just the lying MSM trying to create the winners and losers in OUR elections.  The MSM revels in their power to delude the masses.

 

THAT is why we read Zero Hedge isn't it!!!!!

Fri, 11/06/2015 - 15:30 | 6759199 bardot63
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the Carson campaign has called the Politico story a complete lie. ZH needs to catch up with some headlines.

Fri, 11/06/2015 - 15:43 | 6759259 dolbiere
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rush is on it!

Fri, 11/06/2015 - 15:34 | 6759216 world_debt_slave
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m.o. of a politician

Fri, 11/06/2015 - 15:42 | 6759255 Berspankme
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Would not vote for Carson but this is just a media smear job. Read the story closely and sure he embellished it some. But Obama and Clinton are proven liars. Obama even claimed in his earliest book to be a foreign student. Carson is being deep sixed because he doesn't agree with the obama sycophants

Fri, 11/06/2015 - 15:54 | 6759312 MR166
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Well I guess the MSM was afraid to pull the "Uncle Tom" card and came up with the "Liar Card" instead.

BTW it would be quite a hoot if proven liars were unable to hold office.  THAT would pretty much exempt all current politicians.

Fri, 11/06/2015 - 19:36 | 6760076 falconflight
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No the Uncle Tom card is the top card already face up.  Lou Al Cider (Phonetic)...the dirty Nigga, wrote a nasty piece on him this week and some other Niggas on the TV called him a "safe" Negro for the demPublicans.

Fri, 11/06/2015 - 15:56 | 6759321 dsty
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If you want to get your facts straight why would the hell you quote CNN and Politico?

Here is the real story

http://dailycaller.com/2015/11/06/team-carson-politico-story-is-an-outri...

You take one piece of info out of context and they claim the whole thing a lie

That is the way the Librards roll

So much for astute news readers eh?

Fri, 11/06/2015 - 19:33 | 6760068 falconflight
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I'll be contributing 10 or 20 bucks to his campaign just because.

Fri, 11/06/2015 - 16:10 | 6759399 Luke 21
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Yeah, Politico is trustworthy. You would think Politico or ZH would have provided evidence Carson said what they are claiming.

Fri, 11/06/2015 - 16:18 | 6759434 The Gladiator
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 I don't plan on voting. Whom ever you folks elect is going to be a patsy for the elite,and I don't want that shit on my concience.

Fri, 11/06/2015 - 16:22 | 6759452 KashNCarry
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Clowns, syncophants, and more clowns.  Hey anyone see this review of Trumps new book?  And Jeb! came out with one too.  It's to laugh... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-tf9149OHeQ&feature=youtu.be

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