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Is Washington Preparing For World War III?

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Submitted by Patrick Martin via WSWS.org,

The US military-intelligence complex is engaged in systematic preparations for World War III. As far as the Pentagon is concerned, a military conflict with China and/or Russia is inevitable, and this prospect has become the driving force of its tactical and strategic planning.

Three congressional hearings Tuesday demonstrated this reality. In the morning, the Senate Armed Services Committee held a lengthy hearing on cyberwarfare. In the afternoon, a subcommittee of the House Armed Services Committee discussed the present size and deployment of the US fleet of aircraft carriers, while another subcommittee of the same panel discussed the modernization of US nuclear weapons.

We will provide a more detailed account of these hearings, which were attended by a WSWS reporter. But certain preliminary observations can be made.

None of the hearings discussed the broader implications of the US preparations for war, or what a major war between nuclear-armed powers would mean for the survival of the human race, and even of life on our planet. On the contrary, the hearings were examples of what might be called the routinization of World War III. A US war with China and/or Russia was taken as given, and the testimony of witnesses and questions from senators and representatives, Democrats and Republicans alike, concerned the best methods for prevailing in such a conflict.

The hearings were component parts of an ongoing process. The witnesses referred to their past writings and statements. The senators and representatives referred to previous testimony by other witnesses. In other words, the preparations for world war, using cyber weapons, aircraft carriers, bombers, missiles and the rest of a vast array of weaponry, have been under way for a protracted period of time. They are not a response to recent events, whether in the South China Sea, Ukraine, Syria or anywhere else.

Each of the hearings presumed a major US conflict with another great power (sometimes unnamed, sometimes explicitly designated as China or Russia) within a relatively short time frame, years rather than decades. The danger of terrorism, hyped incessantly for the purposes of stampeding public opinion, was downplayed and to some extent discounted. At one point in the Senate hearing on cyberwarfare, in response to a direct question from Democrat Jeanne Shaheen of New Hampshire, the panel witnesses all declared that their greatest concern was nation-states, not terrorists.

One of the witnesses at that hearing was Dr. Peter W. Singer, listed as a “Strategist and Senior Fellow” for New America, a Washington think tank. He titled his presentation, “The Lessons of World War 3.” He began his prepared statement with the following description of that imagined conflict:

“US and Chinese warships battle at sea, firing everything from cannons to cruise missiles to lasers. Stealthy Russian and American fighter jets dogfight in the air, with robotic drones flying as their wingmen. Hackers in Shanghai and Silicon Valley duel in digital playgrounds. And fights in outer space decide who wins below on Earth. Are these scenes from a novel or what could actually take place in the real world the day after tomorrow? The answer is both.”

None of the hearings saw any debate about either the likelihood of a major war or the necessity of winning that war. No one challenged the assumption that “victory” in a world war between nuclear-armed powers is a meaningful concept. The discussion was entirely devoted to what technologies, assets and human resources were required for the US military to prevail.

This was just as true for the Democratic senators and representatives as for their Republican counterparts. By custom, the two parties are seated on opposite sides of the committee or subcommittee chairmen. Without that arrangement, there would be no way of detecting, from their questions and expressions of opinion, which party they belonged to.

Contrary to the media portrayal of Washington as deeply divided between parties with intransigently opposed political outlooks, there was bipartisan agreement on this most fundamental of issues, the preparation of a new imperialist world war.

The unanimity of the political representatives of big business by no means suggests that there are no obstacles in the path of this drive to war. Each of the hearings grappled, in different ways, with the profound crisis confronting American imperialism. This crisis has two major components: the declining economic power of the United States compared to its major rivals, and the internal contradictions of American society, with the deepening alienation of the working class and particularly the youth.

At the House subcommittee hearing on aircraft carriers, the chairman noted that one of the witnesses, a top Navy admiral, had expressed concern over having “an 11-carrier navy in a 15-carrier world.” There were so many challenges confronting Washington, he continued, that what was really needed was a navy of 21 aircraft carriers—double the present size, and one that would bankrupt even a country with far more resources than the United States.

The Senate hearing on cybersecurity touched briefly on the internal challenge to American militarism. The lead witness, retired Gen. Keith Alexander, former director of the National Security Agency and former head of the Pentagon’s CyberCommand, bemoaned the effect of leaks by NSA contractor Edward Snowden and Army private Chelsea Manning, declaring that “insider attacks” were one of the most serious threats facing the US military.

Democratic Senator Joe Manchin of West Virginia asked him directly, referring to Snowden, “Should we treat him as a traitor?” Alexander responded, “He should be treated as a traitor and tried as such.” Manchin nodded heartily, in evident agreement.

While the witnesses and senators chose to use the names of Snowden and Manning to personify the “enemy within,” they were clearly conscious that the domestic opposition to war is far broader than a few individual whistleblowers.

This is not a matter simply of the deep-seated revulsion among working people in response to 14 years of bloody imperialist interventions in Afghanistan, Iraq, Somalia, Libya, Syria, Yemen and across North Africa, important as that is.

A war between the United States and a major power like China or Russia, even if it were possible to prevent its escalation into an all-out nuclear exchange, would involve a colossal mobilization of the resources of American society, both economic and human. It would mean further dramatic reductions in the living standards of the American people, combined with a huge blood toll that would inevitably fall mainly on the children of the working class.

Ever since the Vietnam War, the US military has operated as an all-volunteer force, avoiding conscription, which provoked widespread opposition and direct defiance in the 1960s and early 1970s. A non-nuclear war with China or Russia would mean the restoration of the draft and bring the human cost of war home to every family in America.

Under those conditions, no matter how great the buildup of police powers and the resort to repressive measures against antiwar sentiments, the stability of American society would be put to the test. The US ruling elite is deeply afraid of the political consequences. And it should be.

 

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Sat, 11/07/2015 - 00:46 | 6760830 homebody
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Some think that we should level the standard of living for all people around the world - get ready for your daily bowl of rice and greens if you live through the war.

Sat, 11/07/2015 - 00:47 | 6760833 hoppingrobot
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World War 2 was necessary to dismantle the already weakened British Empire.

World War 3 is necessary an desirable to dismantle the already weakened American Empire.

Sat, 11/07/2015 - 00:48 | 6760836 Aeneid
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The only way to mobilize the citizenry is another False Flag. The PTB already used it to strip us of our Liberty.

Even if the PTB used it again, the "Feel the Bern" crowd, the "Occupy Wall Street Crowd snd the Black Lives Matter crowd would be out in the streets protesting. Since the WH has demoralized the military we may as well bend over and kiss our asses adios!

Dr Strangelove and Full Metal Jacket were prescient.

Sat, 11/07/2015 - 00:53 | 6760849 Niall Of The Ni...
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Uncle Sugar is already at war with Russia. He's losing. 

The war will end with the House of Saud overthrown, the Russian flag flying over Frankfurt and Riyadh, and Eurasia's freedom and prosperity under Russian protection assured for decades to come.

Thing is, Uncle's not the great warrior he thinks he is, just a bully. The only time he picked on someone his own size unassisted was the time he tried to invade Canada. That little adventure ended with the British burning DC to the ground. Uncle never bothered the Canadians again. 

The only civilized people the US Army were ever a match for (as opposed to bands of savages who ran away at the first shot fired by a white man) were Americans who dared insist on their right to self-government despite being outnumbered and outgunned. Ask any Southerner. 

 

Sat, 11/07/2015 - 03:50 | 6761000 MedTechEntrepreneur
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I say if Unca Shuga starts or tries to start ww3 ....we had better make it clear...we will take down Unca Shuga before he can destroy the world.  NO MORE wars for nothing.  We need to hit the reset button here at home!

 

Sat, 11/07/2015 - 06:43 | 6761111 Winston Churchill
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Why ?

Putin no more wants the bankrupt West, than he wanted bankrupt Ulraine.

Crimea was a special geo po;oxal case.

Sat, 11/07/2015 - 09:30 | 6761263 MalteseFalcon
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"The only civilized people the US Army were ever a match for (as opposed to bands of savages who ran away at the first shot fired by a white man) were Americans who dared insist on their right to self-government despite being outnumbered and outgunned."

The white man has always had a technological edge, but to say that "savages" ran away is a slander.

Google 'King Phillip's War' or 'Wounded Knee' and learn something.

Sat, 11/07/2015 - 01:02 | 6760862 dogismycopilot
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This is a BRILLIANT interview of Paul Craig Roberts. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rcKEmCzZvXA&list=PL5JJuomXz59uQOcVjfRPsT...

Interview was given in the last day or two - his theory is now that the US has been thwarted by Russia/China in the Middle East we will now see the US turning on its own people.

Really quite stunning - even for PCR.

Sat, 11/07/2015 - 04:05 | 6760865 Setarcos
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Interesting that thoughout the Cold War the Soviet Union built civilian bomb shelters.

Then even during the disastrous 1990s, the Russian Federation continued to develop civilian shelters.

An order went out around 2012 to build more shelters under strategic cities and this has been done. (I'll try to find a link to what I have read>) 

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zaFB04g2w10

Meanwhile, in the US, children were taught to duck under school desks, though the Soviet Union was never going to attack the US.  And no civilian shelters were built, only shelters for the 'elite'.

NOW there are FEMA camps and hollow-nosed bullets for civilians in the US ... seems to show where priorities are directed.

Interesting that, for hundreds of years, Russian priorities have been for defence, whereas US priorities have been on offence since George Washington began the Empire:

 

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-kcPyqMWems

You might have to go back a few frames, if you click on the link.

 

Sat, 11/07/2015 - 01:08 | 6760870 yomutti
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What a bunch of crap. No of course Washington is not preparing for WW III. Nobody is, except a bunch internet nutbars.

 

Sat, 11/07/2015 - 10:24 | 6761350 Berspankme
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Good little sheep. Have you blown your favorite .gov official yet today?

Sat, 11/07/2015 - 11:40 | 6761493 Max Steel
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US elites lost their minds drunk on this and overextended themselves ruining in the process what used to make US sustainable and strong and undermining population morals too. It is all connected .

Sat, 11/07/2015 - 01:15 | 6760880 teslaberry
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the only reason the u.s. would start a war is if they wanted to lose. which means, if nazis controlled the united states and wanted her mostly destroyed so they could use the excuse to consolidate power DOMESTICALLY.

that is the only actual reason they would go to real war.

preparations are nothing but normal. that's what empires do.

i'm not so sure about teh nazi's having enough power to actually bring the u.s. into ww3, but don't worry they are working on gun control and are persistent in their ability to prevent the public in resisting the u.s. drive for an aggressive initiation of war.

Sat, 11/07/2015 - 01:28 | 6760898 El Vaquero
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Gun confiscation = civil war.  That assault weapon ban in the '90s?  That would not be followed this time around by a very large number of people.  Katrina was a big eye opener, and us gun nuts are sick of this shit.  How are they going to enforce a law that millions of us who are armed refuse to follow? 

Sat, 11/07/2015 - 03:23 | 6760987 petroglyph
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Simple, food rationing and a reward for informing on your parents or neighbors.

Sat, 11/07/2015 - 11:04 | 6761403 FreeNewEnergy
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El Vaq, you've got that right. The S.A.F.E. Act here in NY is a massive failure. Estimaates are around 8% compliance rate with most of its mandates, especially the registration of "assualt weapons."

Governor Cum-on actually gave up on the part of the bill that was supposed to establish a database of bullet-buyers, because the State Police basically said, "if you want that, you do it. We won't."

Many of the laws being passed these days, from the federal all the way down to BS local zoning (like needing a permit for a 8 x 12 shed, or a fence), are being violated by the public, many times without consequences.

Being that I'm generally light-years ahead of most people on social issues, I called the "post-government" era back in 2010 or 2011. Now, what's a law without consequences. I give you Obamacare, next year. It won't be repealed, just bypassed by millions. Already happening. Make the trend your friend.

Sat, 11/07/2015 - 06:33 | 6761107 tumblemore
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"the only reason the u.s. would start a war is if they wanted to lose"

 

It's a game of chicken. The chance of war comes from that.

Sat, 11/07/2015 - 01:30 | 6760899 MEFOBILLS
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The contrast between Putin and Washington NeoCons MIC is pretty jarring:

Quote from PCR:

The United States government has destroyed American civil liberty with its unconstitutional mass surveillance, indefinite detention without charges, and murder of US citizens without due process of law. Dissent itself is in the process of being criminalized.

Just looking at the basic facts makes it impossible to conclude that the West has “freedom and democracy” or that Washington’s bombs and invasions have brought “freedom and democracy” to Africa and the Middle East.

Every American can get a conclusive lesson about where moral leadership resides by becoming familiar with Putin’s speeches.

Putin Speech, there are no winners in Global Conflict:

http://www.globalresearch.ca/overcoming-the-logic-of-war-there-are-no-wi...

Sat, 11/07/2015 - 02:05 | 6760930 MEAN BUSINESS
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I agreed with you last night too  MEFOBILLS

President Putin's 28SEP15 UNGA speech is causing extreme cognitive dissonce here at Zero Hedge vis-a-vis his final issue raised in that speech: climate change. It's aimed right at the heart of the United Nations

Radical Marijuana is able to articulate it like no other. War is logical because it performs a necessary function. What we're struggling with is that paradigm turning illogical in the WMD age. We need something better now in light of the evidence that we may be fighting to "win" mass extinction.

 

Black Sabbath / Sabbath Bloody Sabbath / Killing Yourself To Live -1971

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vXmDZkle9GI

Sat, 11/07/2015 - 05:50 | 6760900 erk
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Well if there is WWIII you can bet the US will start it, nobody else has such hegemonic ambitions.

 

Sat, 11/07/2015 - 01:32 | 6760902 Jack Oliver
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China doesn't need a war - they are De-Rothchild's -ing and this is a big problem for the WEST - China ,Russia and Iran are all capable of disabling  ALL US communication systems - China can take down US satellites in an instant - Why would they want a war ?? I actually think the West/Saudi's/Israel have just crossed the RED line in regards to the Sinai Airbus disaster - The economic end of the western financial system is a lot closer than you think !!

Sat, 11/07/2015 - 01:36 | 6760908 hotrod
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Imagine fighting or losing family members for BARRY

Sat, 11/07/2015 - 01:45 | 6760914 mastersnark
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This reminded me I need to watch Dr. Strangelove again.

Sat, 11/07/2015 - 02:21 | 6760933 Joe A
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They should lock up all the world's leader in the UN building and run that movie. But I wonder if they would understand the humour and sarcasm. Probably they would complain how they are ridiculed.

Afterwards they should show the footage of victims of the nuclear bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

The problem with the leaders of the world is that the ones that ruled the world after WWII and that remember the horrors of WWII are gone. Now we are stuck with a bunch that are willing to take a chance with our lives in order to secure their place in the history books but after a WWIII the world will be history. The planet will eventually recover. It will take thousands perhaps millions of years but life will start again. Except this time without the psychotic homocidal monkeys called humans.

Sat, 11/07/2015 - 01:58 | 6760927 Xatos
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The nuclear bomb is 75 years old. Outside of the hands of a terrorist group, make no mistake it's old news. No one wants to end the world, nor does anyone wish to conquer radioactive wastelands. Get over the concept of nukes, sheep.

WW3 isn't about nuclear warfare. 

Sat, 11/07/2015 - 02:24 | 6760952 Joe A
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Perhaps you can take a bet at that with GS and insure yourself against a negative outcome of that bet. You need to expect that you might get paid out in pebbles (radioactive ones though) if paid out at all if the bet fails.

Sat, 11/07/2015 - 03:00 | 6760973 Xatos
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Since naivety is your forte, perhaps you could explain all of your "bankster" beliefs and somehow include global thermonuclear war to make it all add up real pretty.

 

Use your brain. The age of worldwide destruction is behind us. Worldwide dominance is the real goal: there's nothing to dominate if the earth is glowing purple.

Sat, 11/07/2015 - 05:29 | 6761063 kareninca
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Wishful thinking.  You don't understand the destructive nature of humans.  They don't care that the earth will glow purple; they are not rational.  I wish you were right but you are not.

Sat, 11/07/2015 - 06:08 | 6761087 dreadnaught
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plus...there are always unforseen events....

Sat, 11/07/2015 - 06:36 | 6761109 tumblemore
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It's a game of chicken.

Sat, 11/07/2015 - 12:59 | 6761664 Joe A
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Since Ad Hominem is your forte there is no point in arguing with you.

Sat, 11/07/2015 - 03:17 | 6760983 scintillator9
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Simply refer to this clip for all one needs to know.

http://www.cc.com/video-clips/yajft7/the-daily-show-with-jon-stewart-tea...

Start at 0:45

For the real fun, start at 1:30

Sat, 11/07/2015 - 04:02 | 6761013 atthelake
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The problem is the United States of America and all the governments it owns are terrorist groups. Get over the concept of governments being run by decent people, sheep.

Sat, 11/07/2015 - 02:27 | 6760931 Joe A
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A WW at one point will go nuclear, let there be no doubt about it. Some might feel lucky and think that a first strike will work. Or some tactical nuclear weapon is used on the battlefield which then will set in motion a process that will lead to MAD. In the meanwhile the world would also see attacks with chemical and biological, even genetical weapons (biological weapons that target certain genome types; if you think that is outrageous: if I can think about it then people with the resources to develop them have thought about it). Hacking and EMPs will be used to cripple a country's military and civilian infrastructure leading to shortages of everything and riots.

Instead of preparing for a WW all the countries in the world need to work together to prevent one. But with hawks and neo-cons everywhere in power (aka psychopaths) then the chances for that are slim.

The best way to prevent it is to educate and liberate the masses. If people think for themselves and cut the patriotism-religion-my system better than your system-etc. paradigm then the saying of "imagine war breaks out and nobody shows up" might come true. But people are easy to fool and be herded into flocks of sheep.

Sat, 11/07/2015 - 03:28 | 6760989 Jorgen
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"In the meanwhile the world would also see attacks with chemical and biological, even genetical weapons (biological weapons that target certain genome types; if you think that is outrageous: if I can think about it then people with the resources to develop them have thought about it)." 

 

Sat, 11/07/2015 - 10:07 | 6761307 J Jason Djfmam
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Weapons that attack your genitals?

Sat, 11/07/2015 - 12:17 | 6761572 yellowsub
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They've been around forever now, it's called STDs.

Sat, 11/07/2015 - 13:39 | 6761740 The Dogs of Moar
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In olden days the snaggletooth was one of the early weapons used to attack the genitals.

I shudder to think what that was like.

Sun, 11/08/2015 - 07:57 | 6763552 Axie
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Read that as: Weapons that attack your gentiles?

Sat, 11/07/2015 - 02:24 | 6760953 PoasterToaster
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The traitorous swine that call themselves the leaders of the US command no respect.  They are bloody fools who think they can just bark orders and expect things to go their way.  Spoiled children.  The people will not follow them, and they will have no success in anything except making the American people hate them more.

These idiots are going to destroy their own "government".  Good.

Sat, 11/07/2015 - 03:08 | 6760981 yogibear
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Many in the government and the US industry sold their soul to China.

They created the monster all for greed.

Sat, 11/07/2015 - 03:20 | 6760985 The Dogs of Moar
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a few additions

preparations for world war ... have been under way for a protracted period of time.

Since the middle of 2002, to be exact, when Booger Bush withdrew the US from the ABM Treaty.  That treaty was 30 years old at the time the president who didn't know he was being badly served by Cheney and Rumsfeld listened to them.

George Bush, Sr., whom the American people were hoodwinked into believing was not telling his son what to do, recently wrote a book blaming Booger's vice-president and Secretary of Defense.  Did GHW ask both those men for permission to slander them?  Did they gladly give it?

Why?  Weak minded Booger, who professes a belief in God is probably drinking again and depressed about having ordered the deaths of 500,000 innocents.  

Especially since it was his father who told him to do it.  

GHW's book is his apology to his son for his hellish advice, which now he blames on Cheney and Rumsfeld.

There is not a sicker family in the bowels of Ancient Roman history than the Bushes of Sunnybrook Farm.

When Booger quit the ABM treaty it was because the neocons had a deadly harebrained scheme which was derived of Reagan's harebrained Star Wars plan.  But this was to be different.  

The Soviets freed their satellites a decade earlier.  There was advancement in missile and radar technology and if these satellites could be lured into the western sphere of influence (EU and NATO) by bribery, trade and blackmail, up to date radar and missiles could be placed near the Russian Federation's border, the West would demolish Mutually Assured Destruction.

By launching a nuclear preemptive strike against the Russian Federation, their ability to respond against the Homeland would be reduced to zero.

By the middle of the first decade of the 21st century, the problem of MAD was solved in the minds of the neocons and their fellow travelers.  

Today, 10 years later, no one thinks that a US first strike will prevent Russian nuclear warheads from raining down everywhere in America.  So after the generals and politicians emerge from their granite caves, not all of us will be singing

Val-deri,Val-dera,
Val-deri,
Val-dera-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha 
Val-deri,Val-dera. 
My knapsack on my back.

 

DENIAL OF DENIAL

 

what Patrick Martin described in his article was a lot of military men and congressmen and senators who are denying the denial they are in. Denial they were led into by GHW Bush and his son Booger when for 5,6,7, years Billy Kristol and Bobby Kagan told the world that Russia could be beaten with no nuclear blowback.

 

PLAN B

 

So we are now using Plan B, which Kristol came up who knows how?

It's basically sabotage, murder, blowing up passenger air craft, chemical warehouses, blackmail, bribery (if nothing else works) and sanctions.

Beating down Russia so hard that Putin finally bends his knee.

The other DENIAL of course, is that Putin wouldn't dare to make a preemptive strike from his side.

"I mean, if Putin did ..." here Kristol starts crying like a little girl, "if he did, our democracy, this government ... of the rich, by the rich, for the rich, might perish from the earth.

Kristol gets down on his knees with burning tears streaming down his kewpie face. "Please God," not knowing what he is saying, "Do it to Vladimir."  

 

Sat, 11/07/2015 - 06:06 | 6761086 dreadnaught
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Dick Cheney should be at the top of any Capital Punishment list

Sat, 11/07/2015 - 13:12 | 6761690 Freddie
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Reagan disliked and never trusted the Bush family.  They tried to off him at least once.  Bushes, clintons and Obola are the same people working for the same masters.

Sat, 11/07/2015 - 13:33 | 6761724 The Dogs of Moar
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Fortunately all the Bush family fiendishness is concentrated in the person of George, Sr. (Barbara prolly has a skosh herself) and that ancient, but lovable skydiver is probably planning to blow the Pearly Gates to get in when his time comes.

No doubt he'll blame the heavenly destruction on Putin.

Sat, 11/07/2015 - 03:31 | 6760990 ersatz007
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I don't understand all the hate. The central bankers have worked hard for us. So have the politicians. Isn't it only right that we sacrifice ourselves and our children to repay them for all that hard work? Where is good old fashioned patriotism these days??

Look, if we don't go to war then everything is gonna collapse and the bankers and the politicians and the other elite will lose everything! So this war is necessary by gosh. I mean if everything collapses what are the bankers and politicians gonna do? We can't seriously expect them to farm or build things. Why- most of them have law degrees and PH.D.s in economics and stuff and we'd be wasting their enormous talents.

After all we are all equal - some are just more equal than others.

Sat, 11/07/2015 - 11:28 | 6761458 opport.knocks
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When the second paragraph of the Declaration of Independence begins with such an obvious lie you know the rest is meaningless drivel as well. Either that or the authors were unclear on the definition of the word "equal". 

Sat, 11/07/2015 - 03:39 | 6760993 mog
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Washington should take care.

The USA is vulnerable as no other

Nuke into Yellowstone.

Tactical nuke in I believe the Azores.

Wall of water mile high headed for NY.

Goodbye Satan.

The radiation - not much.

Could it be done?

 

 

Sat, 11/07/2015 - 22:26 | 6762848 August
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From my sketchy knowledge of geology, the megatsunami wipe-out of the US East Coast seems very do-able, with just a few well-placed nukes... and it's quite likely to happen eventually, anyway. Supposedly, the wave will be "only" 100 to 200 feet high when it comes ashore in North America.  The Russian military is certainly aware of the possibilities and, it's reasonable to assume that if a full-on nuclear exchange occurs between the East and NATO, Cumbre Vieja will be hit; nothing ventured, nothing gained.  I suppose the Russkies might give the Cubans a day's warning, for old times sake.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Megatsunami#Canary_Islands

Sat, 11/07/2015 - 03:51 | 6761003 bjax
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And not one of us would do a thing to stop them.

Sat, 11/07/2015 - 03:59 | 6761009 atthelake
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Americans are an endangered species. CYA, if you can.

Sat, 11/07/2015 - 04:02 | 6761010 Talcott
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I was under the impression they've been attempting to instigate it...

 

for quite some time.

 

Bitchez

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BRE3kjL3Yjg

Sat, 11/07/2015 - 04:43 | 6761033 Batman11
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The cold war stayed cold due to nuclear weapons and mutually assured destruction (MAD).

World War III would be the end of everything and hopefully, even the crazy US elite, are too in love with themselves to trigger it.

 

 

Sat, 11/07/2015 - 06:13 | 6761037 NuYawkFrankie
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Rise Up.

Make no mistake the ZIO SCUMMM* in Wash DC holds YOU in at much contempt - and ready for the meat-grinder - as it does any Russian or Chinese enemy.

If you do NOTHING, you are still not "off the hook" - far from it. You will be pursued by that "Voice Within" which will increasingly make its presence felt and grow darker by the day - in infinitely more terrifying ways than anything those punks in Washington DC. have in store.

On the day you croak - the fingers of innocents slaughtered in your name will point at you. Your "Shadow" will manifest as The Accuser: "He heard The Call! He turned his back!"

As the "Light" slowly & mournfully turns its Face from you, the "Darkness" will beckon you to approach... for your "just reward". Then, it will be too late for you - your Shadow will have succinctly made its case; you will have condemned yourself.

(SCUMMM* - Satanic Cabal Underwriting Mass Murder & Mayhem)

Sat, 11/07/2015 - 08:22 | 6761170 grekko
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SPECTRE lives!

Sat, 11/07/2015 - 04:53 | 6761038 quasi_verbatim
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The US ruling elite is deeply afraid of the political consequences. And it should be.

Nonsense. If we are to build Elysium in America's green and pleasant Homeland then the creative destruction of war and yet more war is essential.

The 99% are ready to stand up and be counted as cannon fodder. America expects every pleb to do his duty.

Sat, 11/07/2015 - 05:21 | 6761056 DonGenaro
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it's all about military contracts, and WWIII will bring many.

peace ? - no money in it.

Sat, 11/07/2015 - 08:18 | 6761166 grekko
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After WWIII, there will no longer be a Military Industrial Complex to make money.  There'll be nobody left to pay taxes.  Those elite that were lucky enough to make it to a DUMB won't have anywhere left to come up to, unless they like a radioactive wasteland.

Sat, 11/07/2015 - 05:23 | 6761058 Kina
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They can prepare all they want for WW3

What they cannot prepare for is the result of WW3 - because there will be only chaotic remnants left in the USA and elsewhere.   And the Oligarchs, no matter how well they think they can prepare themselves, will be pickled like the rest.

 

If the USA thinks it can start a major global war without it eventually proceeding to total global nuclear war then they are fucking stupid and putting the entire USA in the obliteration line.  

 

Global nuclear war will be inevitable because anybody who thinks they are certain to lose will at some stage play the final card. OR even they may see that first stike is the best way to win.

Sat, 11/07/2015 - 06:03 | 6761082 dreadnaught
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The Russians will always win WW3-over there, they build shelters for the common folk, stocked with food and water, etc/

Here, ALL money goes to the Military Industrial complex-and the best you will do is hide in a closet, bathtub or your basement;

Nobody here (except for the Elite) will survive cuz the USGov just dont care.

Russians will be coming out of shelters in droves when it is safe

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you hear from time to time how certain depts of the govenment have bought 5000 hand grenades-or 100,000 rifles with hollow point bullets or tanks etc

Never once have i seen the DHS stocking up with 10,000,000 bottles of drinking water......25,000,000 MREs....etc   things for the common people to survive

Sat, 11/07/2015 - 06:17 | 6761089 wizteknet
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Russians can suck my cock! Love there hores... 3x maybe 5x

Sat, 11/07/2015 - 11:44 | 6761501 Max Steel
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Basement dwellers like you will go tattle tailing if they come for you.

Sat, 11/07/2015 - 07:05 | 6761124 css1971
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Now you know what china's "ghost cities" are for.

Sat, 11/07/2015 - 07:10 | 6761125 bunnyswanson
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Relocate rural population as part of Agenda 21, right?  (land theft)

Sat, 11/07/2015 - 09:14 | 6761233 wizteknet
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Get busy time damn late!

Sat, 11/07/2015 - 11:13 | 6761420 Niall Of The Ni...
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Our betters have thought of that. It's called the cobalt bomb.

Perfectly feasible to wipe out all human life on earth that isn't deep underground and can hold out there for a hundred years, because that's how long it will take for the radiation emitted by cobalt-60 to reach a safe level. That's been well known since the Fifties.

If you'd put it past our betters to pick a fair trial over a cobalt-laced Kool-Aid party, you must be new here.

 

Sat, 11/07/2015 - 06:02 | 6761083 dogismycopilot
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WW III cannot start UNTIL the US has SUBDUED its entire population. This means a lot of the present company will need to be persuaded that they are wrong and that the US Federal Government is "in the right".

The US Federal Government fucked up in Vietnam, Central America, Middle East, Eastern Europe and soon will want to take on Russia and China (Asia). The US Federal Government cannot do until they have the US population eating out of their hands and begging for more. Thus, by law of deduction, the next war to be waged by the US Federal Government will/is against the US People.

Sat, 11/07/2015 - 10:14 | 6761324 Berspankme
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Ongoing

Sat, 11/07/2015 - 06:25 | 6761101 wizteknet
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rest bs

Sat, 11/07/2015 - 06:32 | 6761106 DutchVisitor
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Whatever. 

Keep'on stacking.

Sat, 11/07/2015 - 07:16 | 6761129 nnnnnn
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WW3 will be fake

 

Sat, 11/07/2015 - 07:28 | 6761134 negative rates
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It's a war of deception of denial of the laws of nature.

Sat, 11/07/2015 - 08:32 | 6761179 dogismycopilot
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if you look back in the history of warfare, civilization has always used the most destructive weapons available - long bow, airplane, gunpowder, biological weapons, nuclear weapon. Does anyone really thing that all of the chemical weapons sitting around the world will never be used?

of course they will. For the same reason that people shoot each other over parking spaces and cutting people off in traffic - an inability to control an emotional state.

Nancy Pelosi and Obama and other politicians have convinced the world that the Ruling Class is somehow above the animal nature of humans and they are 'smarter'. But the truth is, they just hide it more and infact have more cold blooded hatred in them than most of us combined. True psychopaths who would just as soon use a biological/chemical weapon as opposed to nuclear weapons (so 1945ish).

I give you as a case study one HRC gloating over death of the man who held most of North Africa together:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fgcd1ghag5Y

Sat, 11/07/2015 - 10:21 | 6761341 GreatUncle
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You do not chuck rocks at the enemey if they are shooting you with guns.

Ditto, nukes, chemical, biological or anything else.

If I was to have a sneaky feeling it will not be nukes, more like a controlled biological plague and you might want to consider why the ebola cure was developed? It was not targeted at Ebola just a powerful cure.

Sat, 11/07/2015 - 07:42 | 6761140 lakecity55
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Yet, why is it "Inevitable?"

Because the Deep State wants it for Power Purposes?

Sorry, Mr Bigs of the world, the Genie is out of the bottle. Yes, the Nuclear Genie. If you want a War, it had better be Finanial or low-burn conventional by proxy. If any of you morons think Nukes are survivable, you're Nuts.

I have mentioned this before, so it's worth repeating: read Talbot's The Devil's Chessboard. It lays everything out, where we were and how we  got here today.

There is another good book I reviewed coming out in January by a former Congressional Investigator which I think will delve more into the financial aspect of the Deep State. I'll post the guy's name when I can find it again, he did a great interview with Moyers.

Sat, 11/07/2015 - 10:14 | 6761323 J Jason Djfmam
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Desire for war is a mental illness.

All who desire war should be locked up.

Sat, 11/07/2015 - 08:18 | 6761167 Schroedingers Cat
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The bastards have figured out a way to solve the national debt, balance the budget, avoid currency collapse, eliminate student loan debt, eliminate unemployment, eliminate poverty, eliminate crime, eliminate drugs all at the same time.  Geniuses

Sat, 11/07/2015 - 08:23 | 6761171 rickv404
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The tragedy is that these pols in Washington, Democrat and Republican alike, are culpable in another world war. They've spent this country into a hole, destabliization the world economy as well. They've repudiated  freedom, Bush and Obama and their parties, setting a very bad example to China and Russia and everyone else. The lessons of the evils of statism and socialism have not been learned, not even from these damned conservatives.

Sat, 11/07/2015 - 08:33 | 6761180 El_Puerco
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How Psychopaths operate and how to deal with them:

 

As humans, we need to confront this threat and DEAL with it.

We need to remember that cooperating with evil, on ANY level, is a MISTAKE and it will ultimately come back to bite you.

So why we spend so much ink and time to explain how to American (Predatory) Capitalism works?!

 

When relationship with reptilian host is killing us…

 

{“WW3 WILL BE THE Reptiles & Psychopath VS. Human”} …A

Sat, 11/07/2015 - 08:52 | 6761184 forputin
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OMG Putin! What have you done! Why? Ou WHY? Now terror attacks happens daily for us in Russia!

Now again! THIS!

People evacuated from Ekaterinburg airport following bomb threat aaaaaaa - whats going on with Russian elite? What? What!?

Dead Russian found in DC hotel Mikhail Lesin - ex top aide, Press Minister & man who founded .

https://twitter.com/WilliamsJon/status/662776457425367040?ref_src=twsrc%...

Sat, 11/07/2015 - 08:38 | 6761187 Hannibal
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WW111 started on 9/11

Sat, 11/07/2015 - 08:50 | 6761200 rickv404
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Yes, and Bush's "Compassionate conservatism" was part of the fuel.

Sat, 11/07/2015 - 10:16 | 6761330 smacker
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"The _countdown_ to WWIII started on 9/11"

I'd go along with that.

In many ways, we are all living thru the 1930s ...only this time round, it's not Adolf Hitler but the POTUS.

Sat, 11/07/2015 - 10:17 | 6761332 anonymike
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Yep, the war on "terror" is really against everyone in the world who disagrees with the sociopaths and psychopaths who call themselves US government

Sat, 11/07/2015 - 11:02 | 6761400 Allen_H
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And who does not follow the izraHELL line of fucking bullshit !

Sat, 11/07/2015 - 11:23 | 6761439 anonymike
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This isn't about any religion or the hate that the global elite like to stir up between them, to keep people fighting each other, instead of placing the attention on the true root of evil, the monsters who call themselves government and the existance of these unnecessary institutions which are always taken over by the worst in society, who desire control over others.

Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness... To SECURE (not grant or limit) these rights, governments are instituted AMONG men (not over them). The instant any such government goes any further than to "secure these rights", it immediately violates them and becomes an evil parasite, which will then want to grow until it consumes its host society. Government at the most local level, if even that, is all that's needed to "secure these rights" and is all that can realistically exist without violating "these rights". We don't need the state or any form of government beyond, possibly, the most local level.

The best thing I've read to learn more about this idea is "For A New Liberty" by Murray N. Rothbard (1978) is a great place to start. The book is available for free download (329-page pdf text or 15-hour LvMI audio) or hardback/CD purchase from the Mises Store,

Sat, 11/07/2015 - 11:35 | 6761480 Allen_H
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'This isn't about any religion or the hate that the global elite like to stir up between them'

I have not the time or the inclination right now to argue with you, but ALL sources of HATE and EVIL begin from here (This 19th century creation/proxy, and let us not forget what they done to Russia.). To ignore this in your face evil is a very dangerous thing. And I am not speaking from a position of hate, just a position of observance. 

Sat, 11/07/2015 - 12:04 | 6761542 anonymike
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If the levers of power that exist in the form of centralized government didn't exist, then the few individuals responsible for massive HATE and EVIL, regardless of the claimed religion (or lack thereof), would not have been able to accomplish what they did. Again, the root cause IS the existance of centralized governments which provide the means for a few very evil people to perpetrate many orders of magnitude more harm upon mankind that they might otherwise have been able to. To allow central governments to continue to exist prevents any real long-term solution to most of the ills of people the world over.

Sat, 11/07/2015 - 09:15 | 6761235 3rivers
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you idiot.  what do you think they do at the Pentagon?  if this isn;t whast they do, plan for stuff, what did you think they were doing?  just sitting around drinking coffee?

Sat, 11/07/2015 - 09:27 | 6761243 NubianSundance
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Senator John McCain, best of friends with the extremists as displayed by the many smiling photos online of his meetings abroad with terrorist leaders, is helping how he can to get a war started, it appears. Clip below, make of it what you will.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7hhS8cX34nM

Sat, 11/07/2015 - 10:15 | 6761327 J Jason Djfmam
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What good is a war department if you have no war?

It's like having a highway department and no roads.

Sat, 11/07/2015 - 10:12 | 6761264 anonymike
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The people who inhabit the land called USA have to use their strategic strength to defeat the evil empire that calls itself US government. That strength is NOT in arms and violence, because so much of the wealth stolen from the living and future generations has been invested in weapons for mass murder and destruction. However, there is something simple that we all can do that will defeat those superior arms. Our biggest strength is through the use of words, which offer the means to meaning of ideas and the enunciation of truth. Fortunately, the truth is becoming bleeding obvious even to the most average sheeple that there is something terribly wrong with this country.

The main problem we need to overcome is people's reluctance to enunciate in everyday conversations, as often as possible, how they feel about the criminals who call themselves US government. The answer is really quite simple, but requires all of us to accomplish. Any time you refer to the mass murdering psychopaths called US government, insert whatever derogatory preface you prefer at the moment, as I've already had the opportunity to do three times in this short message. If enough do this in everything they say and write, then others will lose their reluctance. In time, nearly everyone will constantly have this idea in the back of their mind. Then we can achieve a tidal wave of disrespect for the lying, stealing, counterfeiting, mass murdering monsters who call themselves US government. They and their entire institution will have lost all their legitimacy and support, in a revolution that didn't require a single shot to be fired. The next revolutionary steps of massive disobedience for the myriad of unjust illigitimate diktates will become almost second nature.

Join me in this peaceful revolution against the idea of allowing criminal parasites to rule over you. Start at this moment to always use a derogatory preface any time you speak or write about the sociopaths and psychopaths who call themselves US government, or any other centralized form of government for that matter.

Then, go on to disobey every unjust diktate you safely can to further weaken the monsters who call themselves government. It's easy to identify an unjust law that can be ignored by simply asking if there would be a victim. Most importantly, do everything you can to starve the beast that calls itself government by avoiding taxes whenever possible by using cash, preferably at small businesses, and buying where sales tax is not collected. In large numbers, a lot of disobedience becomes more safe, like the refusal to submit to conscription by the evil empire. Instead, large numbers can respond with words to everyone about what was done to those who were made example of, causing the kidnapping mass murderers called US government to be futher weakened by such examples.

We need to all begin acting now to turn the tide against the parasitic, inhuman, mass murderers who call themselves government, before its too late. They must fall before our civilization is consumed by them, possibly in flames.

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Here's a bit of credit for a few of the words in this message
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dKnjxT5HRJQ

Sat, 11/07/2015 - 09:52 | 6761281 Baron von Bud
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You'll know war is imminent when the children of congressmen are all studying abroad or get draft exempt government jobs.

Sat, 11/07/2015 - 09:59 | 6761290 God is The Son
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The Evil Empire Must Fall Along with the Zionist Parasite.

Sat, 11/07/2015 - 10:04 | 6761299 Oldballplayer
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Really?  How old are guys?  You all sound like 12 year olds.

If the military is not prepping for what they think will be the next conflict, then they are not doing their job.

I don't want another war.  I think Obama is fixing for another war.  I disagree with that.

But if we are really, truly, no-shit, got attacked you would all be whining about how we did not "see it coming."

What would you expect the military to do?

And Congress talking to them about it is just stupid.

You all seem to think that the Generals "want" a war.  I know Generals.  They don't want another war.

Sat, 11/07/2015 - 11:25 | 6761449 hoist the bs flag
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ZH'ers also are busy worrying about Ebola outbreaks, false flags, Georgia Guidstones, NWO, martial law, economic collapse, Sept 23 2015, asteroids, EMPs, solar flares, transhumanism, Jade Helm,Agenda 21, border crossings, TSA,  immigration..you name it. the list goes on and on...it's a never ending shit storm of "what if's"...real or imaginary.

Sat, 11/07/2015 - 13:38 | 6761736 Wahooo
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Are you suggesting ZHers are drama queens?

Sat, 11/07/2015 - 18:21 | 6762276 hoist the bs flag
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that, and a wee bit naive and gullible...with a smathering of irrationality.ZH'ers..including myself at times, LOVE doom. they eat it up. Because it's exciting to think that "it's all a plan"...everything is connected. vs the world being rudderless. You get a sense of control believing that it's all a conspiracy. it's always more fun to say "I told you so" than to admit you could be wrong. just as I may be.

Sat, 11/07/2015 - 10:05 | 6761302 grunk
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I love reading feel-good articles on a Saturday morning.

Sat, 11/07/2015 - 10:13 | 6761316 NoWayJose
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Draft? Who are we kidding? Look at all the recent conflicts in the Middle East. Once you take the handcuffs off your military, and give them enough ordinance - the 'war' only lasts a week. The problem is that the U.S. Is spread all across the globe - a bit like Roman Legions, Napoleon, Japan, Germany, etc. By the time a draft gives you any warm bodies the war is over.

Sat, 11/07/2015 - 10:19 | 6761337 J Jason Djfmam
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No, the problem is when wars are over military spending is reduced.

Continued warfare means continued war spending.

This is why statements like "The war on terror will last for at least 30 years." are made.

To prepare the people for massive military spending for the forseeable future.

Sat, 11/07/2015 - 10:15 | 6761328 GreatUncle
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If you see the nations of the world as a pack of dogs and one dog will always be top of the pack.

What happens when there is not enough food to go round (think resources / wealth) and they have to turn on each other. Just the animal kingdom scaled up then. Now if you were another one of the dogs in the pack, you might want to consider joining forces with others because that alpha male is dammed hungary.

AKA, USA, China, Russia even the little lapdog to the alpha male the UK has its place hoping to feed off the scraps left behind. I think a few of the countries, the likes of Russia and China know they are on the USA hit list but so long as they stick together the target they present is not manageable not even for the USA.

Now frankly I don't care anymore, what will be will be but if anything it does go to show that NO ONE NATION CAN NOW BE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE GLOBAL RESERVE CURRENCY OF THE DAY WHEWN IT CAN BE ABUSED AS IT HAS FOR THE GAIN OF ANY ONE SINGLE NATION.

Is that not right China, Russia, India and all the other nations not allowed at the economic table.

Sat, 11/07/2015 - 10:23 | 6761349 Solio
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Must have war and dynastic rule to cover for crimes against humanity, treason, bank fraud, naked short selling, etc.

Sat, 11/07/2015 - 10:31 | 6761357 Graph
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More and more I found myself being sorry for everything beautiful created by men fhrough ages being destroyed in coming future, rather then for mankind itself since survivors will turn into weird mutants.

Sat, 11/07/2015 - 10:33 | 6761358 RawPawg
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Sat, 11/07/2015 - 10:31 | 6761359 RawPawg
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part of my watching for the big showdown that's coming is this

movement of family around POTUS..where are they? where are they going? etc,etc

POTUS has to stay there in the mess,but if his loved ones are safe elsewhere

that tells ya sumptins bout to go down

Sat, 11/07/2015 - 10:48 | 6761381 dadcss
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Do I think war is coming? Yes, if we keep electing the same crazies, Washington will make it so. It will most likely be in two phases. The first where nukes fly. The second where foot soldiers go in and take the land. Not the cities but farm land and clean, read that not contaminated, water. American farmland will be the least contaminated so expect foreign soldiers on our soil. Think it will not happen? Then go back to watching football…everything will be O  K…

Sat, 11/07/2015 - 10:50 | 6761385 Skiprrrdog
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Now that they have been busy 'gaying up' the military, wars will be pillow fights, not bullets. Long pillows...

Sat, 11/07/2015 - 12:47 | 6761645 Berspankme
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Which side do the trannys fight on?

Sun, 11/08/2015 - 00:00 | 6763028 Caleb Abell
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Both, of course.

Sat, 11/07/2015 - 12:51 | 6761650 FredFlintstone
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tickle fights

Sat, 11/07/2015 - 10:55 | 6761394 22winmag
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There will never be another draft.

 

Period.

 

End of story.

Sat, 11/07/2015 - 11:18 | 6761432 falga
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China and Russia are pragmatically preparing for war, why wouldn't the US?

Sat, 11/07/2015 - 11:38 | 6761485 7 of 15
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Many people make a very good living providing weapons of war, so why would they want that to stop?

Sat, 11/07/2015 - 11:39 | 6761487 7 of 15
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.

Sat, 11/07/2015 - 11:38 | 6761488 Charles Offdensen
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Speaking of things happening in Washington!

http://abcnews.go.com/ABCNews/putin-associate-found-dead-dc-hotel/story?...

Apparently this guy created RT. I wonder if Putin knew.

Sat, 11/07/2015 - 11:39 | 6761490 Omega_Man
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the US common man militia should round up all the evil ones namely zionists and other war mongers - and put them in jail, strip their power from them... If they refuse then there needs to be war against them .

Sat, 11/07/2015 - 11:46 | 6761511 Jim Leyritz
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Is DC prepared for a war?

Sat, 11/07/2015 - 11:48 | 6761518 chinaboy
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A witch brew for disaster

Sat, 11/07/2015 - 12:06 | 6761548 BlussMann
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The Jew Singer explains the "lessons"of WWIII. The military didn't want a draft because the Negros were so poorly educated they had to spend the first six months attempting to educate these "crack" troops in the basics of reading and writing. Dicipline issues were out of sight.  As far as demands on "American Society",  this so called "Society" is so fragile now it will not tolerate forced sacrfices - it will collapse into chaos. Sure, the 'patriotic' Rednecks will volunteer, but there aren't enough and they will be no match for the Russians and Chinese - and it will be Russiand and China allied. The integrated, faminist, gay US military will have a tough time of it.

Sat, 11/07/2015 - 12:36 | 6761611 juicy_bananas
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Sorry Barry.  I'm not getting conscripted for your fairy faggot AIDS riddled COCK.

Draft your own kids asshole.  You started this war, you fight it.  What DIFFERENCE does it make?

Sat, 11/07/2015 - 12:42 | 6761620 ToSoft4Truth
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If you are American, you have the best of both worlds.

One, we can take ‘em.

Two, if you get killed in the battle Jesus will greet you up in the clouds.

Sat, 11/07/2015 - 13:12 | 6761688 Phillyguy
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It is hard to envision any war between the US, Russia and China as staying non-nuclear for any length of time. What will be the consequences of this?

1 Russia has circa 5000 tactical nuclear weapons on its western border. Europe will be incinerated in 15 min and entirely destroyed. Obviously, NATO facilities in Europe will be prime targets.

2. Japan and Australia, US allies, will likely be targeted with Chinese/Russian nuclear weapons.

3 The US is extremely vulnerable to a military attack. Obvious targets include major cities and military installations, computer server farms and fiber optic data transmission lines. US agriculture is very energy dependent- it takes 10 calories of energy to produce 1 cal of food; the average food commodity travels 1500 miles from production site to point of consumption. No doubt, you can be sure the military command in Russia and China is well aware of this and thus, will target energy infrastructure- oil loading docks, used to off-load oil tankers, oil and natural gas pipelines, oil wells, oil refineries and storage facilities, which are all soft target. After this happens, food production will drop precipitously and mass starvation will rapidly follow. Some things to ponder……….

Sat, 11/07/2015 - 13:31 | 6761717 Chuckster
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You are one intelligent person.  Tragically no one will listen...we are Americans and therefore we are above the rest of the world and thus then will somehow prevail.

Sat, 11/07/2015 - 16:30 | 6762039 silverer
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I agree.  They think they can mix up tactical nukes with regular explosive weapons and keep it a "conventional war".  Just like they think socialism will work.  What a bunch of idiots.  That shit would ramp up so fast it would make your head spin.

Sat, 11/07/2015 - 18:28 | 6762292 hoist the bs flag
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yep...nukes and the sociopathic twats behind them are the real threat and have been for decades. just as Point of Sales and Just in time production/supply lines have ALWAYS been a weakness. this includes all global markets. 10 hyperinflated dollars says we have the same tactical soft target ideas too.

 

Sat, 11/07/2015 - 13:23 | 6761705 jcdenton
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Hey ZH, got the balls? (This should be your top story. Stop all the presses)

http://www.veteranstoday.com/2015/11/07/the-sinai-shootdown-it-finally-t...

...new evidence including evidence presented below that Britain silenced vital reports of an earlier failed shoot down of a “wrong plane,” point the finger to Tel Aviv.

 

Yesterday, the British admitted that one of their airliners was attacked by a missile, possibly an air to air missile fired by an F15.  The attempted downing happened on August 23, 2015 and no one was told, not a word, nothing in the news though this startling announcement, reported thus far only in the Daily Mail, should have been earth shattering news.

Time to let Russia take out Tel Aviv. Maybe even Haifa. Give them 48 hours to evacuate the civilians. At the same, let Dunford and his Marines arrest AIPAC. While MARSOC [1] with Spetsnaz "snatch and grab" key members of ExxonMobile (just down the street from me here in The Woodlands; also in Irving.), and SAS [and/or Royal Marines] do the same for BP. Arrest McCain, Adelson, et al.

http://www.veteranstoday.com/2015/10/26/mike-harris-bp-exxonmobil-benefi...

http://www.veteranstoday.com/2015/09/23/the-secret-isis-safe-havens-nobo...

We know who they are. We know what to do. Let's just do it. As Putin bombs the Knesset and military sites in Haifa, he releases the 9/11 satellite proof. We The People can take care of the rest ..

https://youtu.be/jE2_qmlKFVU

Next, the Pentagram and City of London ..

http://www.veteranstoday.com/2015/10/04/americas-sad-terror-confession/

This is not rocket science ..

 

Just DO IT!

 

Lee Wanta has the Wanta Plan all set to go ..

http://www.veteranstoday.com/2015/01/02/wanta-plan-must-be-deployed-now/

https://app.box.com/s/hfgvcqg7gqh7i27at6sv53ywu87lwarp (Read Me First)

 

JUST DO IT!

 

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[1] SOCOM cannot be completely trusted at this juncture. There is reason FORCON did not want to join SOCOM in the beginning.

Sat, 11/07/2015 - 14:47 | 6761863 MedTechEntrepreneur
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KKKToday is your source?  Veterans Today is no different than some David Duke rag.  Nazi pagan fuckers.

Sat, 11/07/2015 - 13:24 | 6761706 me or you
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Of course they are preparing for war but not against China or Russia they are getting ready to fight and kill their own people aka 'the Americans people'.

Sat, 11/07/2015 - 16:26 | 6762030 silverer
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Maybe the plan is to just let the enemies nuke the regular schmo and it's all left to the elites and their families by default.

Sat, 11/07/2015 - 16:52 | 6762083 me or you
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That's a good point.

Sat, 11/07/2015 - 13:26 | 6761711 me or you
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If US militia doesn't take over the country the traitors in Washington will get every American killed in a war against China and Russia.

Sat, 11/07/2015 - 16:24 | 6762026 silverer
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I read that Russia has fallout shelters built all over the place, that they've been steadily building them for 20 years, and that nobody in Moscow is more than three minutes away from a shelter.  So, US citizens, how far away are you from your government built shelter?

Sat, 11/07/2015 - 16:51 | 6762079 me or you
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HAHAHA! Shelters in US? No my friend your government doesn't think you (the American people) deserve to survive a nuclear war.

Sat, 11/07/2015 - 13:33 | 6761722 me or you
Sat, 11/07/2015 - 16:22 | 6762018 silverer
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I wouldn't call this too 'off topic'.  This is the kind of thing countries go to war over.  And you are right: not good news for the dollar.  The flight marches on...

Sat, 11/07/2015 - 13:42 | 6761745 pine_marten
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I 'm sure it's for the good of the people.  Just like letting the bankers loot and and pillage was.   Who needs the devil when we have politicians? 

Sat, 11/07/2015 - 13:43 | 6761748 dizzyfingers
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The Semisovereign People: A Realist's View of Democracy in America Revised Edition

Sat, 11/07/2015 - 14:41 | 6761852 Theremustbeanot...
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Do Bears sh*t in the woods.

Of course the out of control psychos are preping for W3, because they're going to be the ones that false flag start it!

If you want to avoid the war then you should have purge..round up all the bansksters, trilaterals etc etc and have the biggest war crimes trial of this century.  Tony Blair and George Bush junior can be put on trial first.  The whole process might take a few years as the evidence is collected first.

The trial should be the event of the century and publicly televised worldwide and the guilty executed and they and their families stripped of all wealth.

 

 

Sat, 11/07/2015 - 14:41 | 6761853 Theremustbeanot...
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Do Bears sh*t in the woods.

Of course the out of control psychos are preping for W3, because they're going to be the ones that false flag start it!

If you want to avoid the war then you should have purge..round up all the bansksters, trilaterals etc etc and have the biggest war crimes trial of this century.  Tony Blair and George Bush junior can be put on trial first.  The whole process might take a few years as the evidence is collected first.

The trial should be the event of the century and publicly televised worldwide and the guilty executed and they and their families stripped of all wealth.

 

 

Sat, 11/07/2015 - 15:17 | 6761907 WhyWait
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They've been preparing for World War III since 1944!  And it's often looked very scary. 

Russia's strategy, as explained by Glazyev in early 2014, is to try to hold the Empire in check without triggering a world war long enough for the empire to collapse without a full apocolypse.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-06-18/putin-advisor-proposes-anti-dol...

This framework makes sense of all of Putin's actions since then.  It is the reason I hold on to some hope for human survival. 

It's horrifying that the Brass would want to double the number of US carriers, but the great danger is that some dunderhead faced with failing funding will followlogic of "use 'em or lose 'em".

Sat, 11/07/2015 - 16:20 | 6762016 silverer
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How to survive WWIII -

http://www.silohome.com/underground_real_estate_military_missile_bases_f...

Hurry up and hit the lottery!

Sun, 11/08/2015 - 10:23 | 6763852 Maestro Maestro
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Vladimir Putin,

You are a liar and a fraud who is a lackey of the bankers.

If you weren’t,

1) The Russian central bank would not be a private treasonous institution controlled by City of London/Western ruling class interests.

2) Russia would not accept fraudulent (unconstitutional, illegal) and not-even-worthless [because FRNs are not even defined as to exactly what they are worth] US dollars or Euros for Russia’s real and valuable oil and other natural resources, or for its arms sales.

3)Russia would vehemently have denounced the fact that Americans and Europeans are manipulating the price of gold, silver and platine lower by selling precious metal that they don’t have in fraudulent paper markets only, to the tune of several hundred ounces MORE than each ounce the West actually have available for delivery. [For each ounce of eligible & registered gold in Comex warehouses, the Americans already have sold several hundred ounces on paper.] Like all IMF member countries, Russia acquiesces that it’s forbidden to use gold as money…

Putin,

You’re a fucking traitor to mankind.

If not,

You’d have used fuel-air bombs on Raqqa (the de facto capital of the Islamic State) and exterminated these American agents before they tortured, raped and killed hundreds of thousands of human beings.

You would have hit the oil fields controlled by ISIS which finances their rape, torture and mass murder of human beings in the name of American- and European-aligned interests. You would have denounced and attacked the parties that buy this oil from them and destroyed their oil trade routes.

Putin,

You’re not a chess player. You’re a piece of shit.

Mon, 11/09/2015 - 01:11 | 6766303 onmail1
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Mabee CabalA$$LickerLiarHomObamma will ask for 100 trillion dollars for nuke modernization @ 100x than actual costs (remember in Afghanistan they built one petrol pump for 43 million $)

So that Cabal banksters & corporatations benefit or go broke ; if go broke then QE, free money.

American establishment has become cannibals , they are eating their own economy.

WAR IS A GAME OF PROFIT; WAR INCREASES RISK;  AND RISK IS AN EXCUSE FOR ANY AMOUNT IN CONTRACTS

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