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GOP Hits 'Romney' Panic Button: Establishment Fears "Nominating Someone Unfit To Be President"
Less than three months before the kickoff Iowa caucuses, WaPo reports that there is growing anxiety bordering on panic among Republican elites about the dominance and durability of Donald Trump and Ben Carson and widespread bewilderment over how to defeat them. Expectations were that Trump and Carson would fizzle with time, but that has not happened, leaving establishment figures disoriented. “We’re potentially careening down this road of nominating somebody who frankly isn’t fit to be president in terms of the basic ability and temperament to do the job," warned one strategist as some in the party establishment are so desperate to change the dynamic that they are talking anew about drafting Romney - despite his insistence that he will not run again.
It appears they are right to worry at least as Clinton moves into dramatically odds-on chances of winning...
And Trump and Carson dominating... (via RealClearPolitics)
Party leaders and donors fear that nominating either man would have negative ramifications for the GOP ticket up and down the ballot, virtually ensuring a Hillary Rodham Clinton presidency and increasing the odds that the Senate falls into Democratic hands. As The Washington Post reports,
The party establishment is paralyzed. Big money is still on the sidelines. No consensus alternative to the outsiders has emerged from the pack of governors and senators running, and there is disagreement about how to prosecute the case against them.
For months, the GOP professional class assumed Trump and Carson would fizzle with time. Voters would get serious, the thinking went, after seeing the outsiders share a stage with more experienced politicians at the first debate. Or when summer turned to fall, kids went back to school and parents had time to assess the candidates. Or after the second, third or fourth debates, certainly.
None of that happened, of course, leaving establishment figures disoriented.
“The rest of the field is still wishing upon a star that Trump and Carson are going to self-destruct,” said Eric Fehrnstrom, a former adviser to 2012 nominee Mitt Romney. But, he said, “they have to be made to self-destruct. . . . Nothing has happened at this point to dislodge Trump or Carson.”
“People usually start off in the same way: Pollyanna-ish,” Kean said. “They assure me that Trump and Carson will eventually fade. Then we’ll talk some more, and I give them a reality check. I’ll say, ‘The guy in the grocery store likes Trump. So does the guy who cuts my hair. They’re probably going to stick with him. Who knows if this ends?’ ”
According to other Republicans, some in the party establishment are so desperate to change the dynamic that they are talking anew about drafting Romney — despite his insistence that he will not run again. Friends have mapped out a strategy for a late entry to pick up delegates and vie for the nomination in a convention fight, according to the Republicans who were briefed on the talks, though Romney has shown no indication of reviving his interest.
One well-funded outside group, the Club for Growth, has aired ads attacking Trump in Iowa and more recently came out against Carson as well. “Donald Trump and Doctor Ben Carson are in over their heads,” said Club for Growth President David McIntosh, labeling both candidates as “pretenders.”
Still, the party establishment’s greatest weapon - big money - is partly on the shelf.
The apprehension among some party elites goes beyond electability, according to one Republican strategist who spoke on the condition of anonymity to talk candidly about the worries.
“We’re potentially careening down this road of nominating somebody who frankly isn’t fit to be president in terms of the basic ability and temperament to do the job,” this strategist said. “It’s not just that it could be somebody Hillary could destroy electorally, but what if Hillary hits a banana peel and this person becomes president?”
South Carolina Gov. Nikki Haley, herself an outsider who rode the tea party wave into office five years ago, explained the phenomenon.
“You have a lot of people who were told that if we got a majority in the House and a majority in the Senate, then life was gonna be great,” she said in an interview Thursday. “What you’re seeing is that people are angry."
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I gave you red because you're a fuckwit.
Have a pleasant weekend.
divedivedive:
You are the epitome of the BRAIN DEAD Conformist Sheep. Listen to you. Have you EVER made an attempt to NOT repeat/believe what you have been TOLD and use that gap between your ears to THINK yourself? Mom & Dad are/were WRONG!
Romney and Rubio are Status Quo STOOGES! Better learn to think critically outside of the MSM or you're a SITTING DUCK for those who love and will defend LIBERTY at all costs!
Why not, the Dems did and were still stuck with him.
Barry was highly qualified to read Ericksonian Hypnotic Inductions off a teleprompter
If they run Romney, I swear to fucking God I will pro-actively vote Democrat
And doing so could leave me scarred for eternity.
God damn you Establishment Traitorous Republicans
But if the Democrat is Hillary, it would truly be choosing between the Giant Douche and the Turd Sandwich once again. I would refuse to vote for either, probably stay home to give the message that I know I'm disenfranchised and refuse to participate.
Carson is a genius - but foolish and breathtakingly crazy. But 'they' dont want trump because they worry a billionaire with considerable ties to organized crime wont be a good little globalist-and-ultra-zionist puppet.
hillary has already been crowned by the Deep State, folks. None of this really matters.
But note the crazy ass-kissing of Israel by every candidate except Trump, and it seems, Batshit Bernie.
Really good points!
Bernie is jewiish? and lived on a Kibbutz
Yep the cheesepopes are Jonesing for their first actual win of the White house so the takeover is complete. Pennsylvania avenue will be renamed to Rothchild.
if hillary wins its proof the votes are rigged , no one likes her most think she should be in jail.
Not so sure, there are a majority of morons out there. What did Einstein say, something like the majority of the stupid is guaranteed for all time...
Go TRUMP
50 years of welfare payments and abortions.
Patience, grasshoppers.
There is nobody running in either party who looks like they are "fit to be president" by any rational standard, so that is not even an issue. You don't win by opposition, you win by guidance. Jeb! looked like a willing mule so the money guys loved him, but the public just ain't buying it. You don't think Trump is corruptible? Ha!
The RINO establishment should worry that Trump and Carson will blow themselves up, or out, or whatever, because that's probably just what will happen and that will leave them with nada. If the Republican "elite" had any brains they'd be offering Trump bj's about now not insulting him. Though in the end it probably won't matter anyway.
It doesn't matter. The people are fucked unless you are a .01%'er
banker whore Romney to the rescue!!!! good luck with that
please....the bankers like Democrats period. Obama has better to bankers than anyone on the planet
Wow they absolutely don't get it.
Trumps coming for you bitchez!
They get it. That's why they're panicking, not because they think Clinton will win.
Hell's a comin'!
EVERY sniveling repug candidate except trump/huck want to means test social security
the repugs want nyc/dc to decide who gets it...and who doesn't. outrageous that they are trying to cover the theft up by stiffing the people who worked their whole lives and paid into the thing
fcking criminals, the lot of em
Yep,,, They want to kill savers in every way. Many that agree with this will likelly be the ones punished by it, especially if they save and we all know how government hates savers.
Lets say a person saves through various means of frugality a million dollars. Even though he "paid into the system,,, maximun amount every year" he won't qualify for benefits because he was "responsible".
Now that same person is irresponsible and spends every penny he earned will be rewarded with benefits.
Just like housing, auto, and savings the responsible person once again gets screwed and irresponsibility pays off. Others seeing how irresponsibility pays off will most likely decide not to save or limit their savings to ensure benefits.
Regarding that subject, ever thought about credit scores? Those who spend a lot get higher scores; those who spend less (perhaps way less then they could) get crapola. Seems backwards to me but then it's about being sheeple who herd themselves.
Good debt slavery gets rewarded. Call it the debt-slave ranking for obedience. I took out loans to establish a credit rating, then paid them off early. I now have a top notch rating despite paying off my card, the only debt I carry, every month. That's a loop hole they haven't fixed yet. The only reason I even use them is because they pay me. They charge the merchants a transaction fee. That's where my cut originates, from cash payers and debt slaves.
spot on with the money screen..
now take it to the next level - what types of people does nyc/dc favor, not favor when handing out 'benefits'?
white and not gay.... with a little pension check coming in...or a few frn in the bank?
good luck pleading that case to pelosi, schumer, sheila jackson, mccain, rubio, feinstein, king, lindsey graham, etc
That is Satan's strategy summed up in layman's terms. Attack all that God has ordained for man's good in some shape or form; therefore marriage, family and the value of human life. Dishonest weights, lies, deception, unloving, unmerciful etc; all God has warned and no one gives a damn until they are damned, then it is too late, for you all were forewarned and all are without excuse, for the free gift of reconciliation is freely given to whosoever will, but man is willfully ignorant because his deeds are dark and the Light exposes them. However that same Light is what heals as the darkness always flees from Light.
If you came to these conclusions through rigorous self-introspection then I would applaud you.
Sadly, you are merely a parrot repeating what you have been told.
God does not favor someone who blindly follows,...MOF he casts him into the lake of fire to learn how to think for himself
If I'm not mistaken this is another media blackout.
Deez Nuts 2/1
Simple! It's her turn.
Big debate back then, 2008, whether it should be a black or the little woman. Hillary "graciously" backed off in to allow the imposter to win. Now it's the little women's turn and unless she really pisses off the oligarchs (unlikely) Diebold computers will ensure her win. There's no way to verify and recounts are useless with computers.
Like the economy and everything else,,, the elections are manipulated. First they choose the runners via state media. Then you vote your favorite lesser of evil while Diebold changes the votes as necessary to favor their chosen one.
Believe your reality of choice,,, but that's it in a nutshell.
yup, that's the common opinion
Yep, a lot more women at the helm; so when it blows...they would have been better left at home nurturing the next generation rather than sending them off to .gov school.
It's a zero-sum game. What if any of them become president. Same old. Unless you get Sanders. Popcorn time.
Carson is a thug and an open borders nut. The real dude is TRUMP, as far as ANYONE is in this election:
Why So Much Jewish Fear and Loathing of Donald Trump? Professor Kevin MacDonald October 29, 2015
Why Is There A Prolific Jewish Presence In The American Feminist Movement?
South African Dan Roodt, November 9, 2012
Trump dropped out in 2012 because his life and family were threatened. What makes this time around different? Think, think, think. His children are be raised in ether Roman Catholicism or Judaism...think, think think. Carson is the real threat they are worried about, not Trump...they want Trump.
The foolish will see the reality and be full of regret.
Laddie Though the US has many ethnicities in varying numbers, and though blacks are the smallest minority, they are the only ones that "count". For those who don't like that statment, sorry, but it's true.
Draft Oprah.
Carson really? It is pretty cleaer that Carson is on dope.... Seems like a nice guy...but not too sharp all around
Obviously a lot sharper than you will ever be considering the comment. We'll assume you are speaking from a place of ignorance or racism.
I'd agree with him. Don't be charmed by "neurosurgeon" which is so very highly specialized and still technically practical knowledge and not academic or philosphical. I don't strongly dislike Carson by any means but he's not exactly forthcoming about being particularly bright. His inability to defend vaccines in the first debate was pretty much the end of my Carson honeymoon.
It is about a person of moral integrity; when is the last President with an ounce of that? ZH'ers are not much different than the people they love to bash...it is the problem with the inner man without moral constraints; Carson has a real moral constraint and his life proves it. People will accumulate those that "tickle their ears" in the latter days and that is what we see.
The worse part is that we have reached the point where "God gave them over to a useless/depraved mind to do those things which are unfitting/not proper". People everywhere are becoming more foolish as they reject the only Hope mankind has and will ever have. The path we are on, both as a nation and worldwide, is the path of destruction as we have been forewarned and is now in our faces.
So you would rather have Hillary's knowledge on Lesbo tactics...
Headline of the day
Republican party nominates Hillary Clinton too. Film at 11:00
How about Bill Clinton on the Republican ticket?
Wash out your mouth with soap!
that headline is pure genius
the real left votes for sanders
the real right votes for trump
the red/blue party is for hellary
Quote: "Voters would get serious, the thinking went, after seeing the outsiders share a stage with more experienced politicians at the first debate.."
Really, then explain Obama? Hillary? Go Ben and may God show mercy on America. Gee I want to give a thumbs up on the Obama part, but I can't because of the Carson and God part...I really hate them Christian types.
I was listening to some political pundit yap the other day about Donald Trump. He said that if Trump is leading in the delegate count after Iowa and New Hampshire, we will see a GOP establishment attack campaign against Trump like we have never seen. I remember how the GOP establishment savagely attacked Pat Buchanan after he won the New Hampshire GOP Primary in 1996. The GOP establishment wanted Bob Dole, and that is who they got. My guess is a chump like Jeb Bush is still hanging around despite TERRIBLE polling numbers because he thinks Trump and Carson will be torpedoed by the GOP establishment and he will move up.
attack like we've never seen? pundit not too bright..
An orchestrated attack against a member of its own party...
If Trump gets too close to the nomination, he will end up like Robert Kennedy after winning the California primary.
He will not be elected; people are selected...say hello to hillary.
That "pundit" has apparently been paying no attention to what has been going on since Trump got into the race, i.e. continuous attacks by the media on behalf of GOPe, which has been marvellously effective in boosting Trump.
Since the electorate doesn't want what the establishment wants, all such attacks actually turn out to be unintended ads for Trump.
This is not the Buchanan/Dole era.
"That "pundit" has apparently been paying no attention to what has been going on since Trump got into the race, i.e. continuous attacks by the media on behalf of GOPe, which has been marvellously effective in boosting Trump." - Bazza McKenzie
The sledding is easier before the actual primaries and/or caucuses begin. Delegates are at stake then. If Trump wins Iowa and/or New Hampshire, the GOP establishment will be in full attack mode. No way do they want him. Don't underestimate how bad it can get. Trump lives large. No telling what they might drag up (or manufacture out of thin air if it suits them).
"This is not the Buchanan/Dole era." - Bazza McKenzie
Agreed. I only cited that for reference for some of the younger folks here who may not be aware. I remember it vividly as I was an active campaigner for Buchanan. They dredged up old comments and/or opinions of Buchanan from long ago to smear him. It was vicious. The GOP establishment itself came out and said Buchanan had no chance in an open election and that he would do as bad (or worse) than Barry Goldwater did. No chance were they letting him win... and it turns out Dole was a terrible candidate himself as he lost in an electoral landslide to Clinton.
The Murdoch media never learn
They are experienced manipulators of the news
Google "Pauline Hanson" and "One Nation" to see how this Australian politician was (in the 1990s) broght to fame and power because of the tricks the media are currently pulling on Trump et al
Thanks for the reference. I will research this.
Meanwhile, we all know Trump is a man with large appetites. There is no telling what sort of personal life Trump has led over the years. If he ever did anything he secretly regrets, we might just be hearing about it soon enough. Just like with Tiger Woods, people started pouring out of the woodwork to air his dirty laundry... and Tiger Woods wasn't a threat to the political establishment. There is no telling what someone might dredge up on Trump (true or untrue), and the media would trumpet away 24/7 if they get any juicy nuggets on Trump.
If your not outraged, you're not paying attention.
For most of history in the U.S. politicians, and even presidents, were not career politicians who only knew how to campaign and fleece. That changed about the 1960s, I think. With the influx of big money into politics, only bought-and-paid-for, self-serving career politicians were allowed to enter the game, since they could be under the total control of donors and lobbyists (is that redundant?). Republicans make noise about nominating a candidate who is either unqualified or cannot beat Hillary; what they're really mad about is the thought that the nominee won't be beholden to the party, to the party donors, and won't be under their total control. Instead of trying to capitalize on the voters' anger in an effort to win the election, Republicans are content to bring down anyone who may not toe the line. They will happily lose the election if they are able to nominate another establishment candidate, none of whom has a snowball's chance in hell of beating Hillary. And Republicans know it.
So...the "establishment" isn't happy with who I might choose to be my next president. Good. FUCK YOU ESTABLISHMENT!!
The establishment is terrified by the mere possibility that someone who is not a psychopathic murder might be elected president.
Not sure why the republican party doesn't just bribe hillary to run on the red ticket..her blue hat and panties would hit the ground at the same time for a 100 dollars.
The only people fit to be president have no interest in being president.
"Party leaders and donors fear that nominating either man would have negative ramifications for the GOP ticket up and down the ballot, virtually ensuring a Hillary Rodham Clinton presidency and increasing the odds that the Senate falls into Democratic hands. As The Washington Post reports"
Translation: Political establishment and Wall Street bankers fear nominating Trump will have long coat tails, ensuring lots more TEA Party types in Congress and the end of the Bush/Clinton/Obama crime families dynasty.
Big money on the shelf... we can't have that it would be horrible. How can they buy a candidate if the money stays on the shelf.
Help wanted: Must be proficient in lying, cheating, stealing, killing, treason, manipulating, and satanism in general.
can't wait to see hellary vp
schumer? first tranny?
Fuck the GOP... they obviously "don't get it" and deserve to fucking die off. Carson and Trump represent something the two party monopoly can't provide... that's freedom, nationalism, patriotism, etc.
Perhaps the convention will nominate Scalia.
This "strategist" is not a strategist's jockstrap - unless of course he is actually working for Clinton, and given this is a WaPo story he may well be.
First we have the people who "knew" Trump and Carson were going to flame out now admitting they were wrong BUT they "know" Trump or Carson will be beaten by Clinton (and like all the people claiming Clinton will win, they ignore the fact that the economy is bad for most Americans and will continue to deteriorate and, as the first Clinton said, "it's the economy, stupid").
Then they imagine that if they just appoint a candidate who has no grass roots support, over candidates who have massive grass roots support, all those supporters are going to line up like lemmings to vote for whoever they appoint. In reality that would not happen, at best most of those supporters would stay home on voting day and at worst Trump would run as an independent and thrash their appointee.
Romney is actually smart enough to understand this, which is why he wants no part of it.
The only person this "strategy" would benefit would be Clinton, since it's probably her only chance to win. So no wonder WaPo is pushing it.
All of the information out there now is based on the parties registered voters whether Democrat or Republican. It's very short sighted. The Independants will have their say on election day Nov. 2016. There are more people who are Independants than the number of registered voters in either party. Game on.
Lincoln said it best.
Then they assassinated him.
Kennedy took on the Fed with his silver dollar and they assassinated him.
If you think the US has a democracy you are an idiot
I think what has stumped the hidden power is that TWO people are in line to take the top job - so who do they assassinate without it becoming obvious?
Don't the idiots running Jeb's campaign realize that his glasses alone, old fashioned and super geeky, making him look like a timid rabbit, cost him at least 10 points alone in the polls?
It's not the geekiness but the name (and genetics) of Bush. We've had two, two was too much. Bush 2 signed the '07 Wall Street Bailout bill and gave us Obama.
Jeb only wears glasses so he don't get punched in the face.
"You wouldn't hit a guy with glasses, would you?"
"No, I'd use my fist."
Anything that goes wrong for the Republican party from here on out is RICHLY deserved. They have, since winning both houses, shown a CLEAR lack of leadership. No matter how bad Obama is, it only serves to show just how bad the Republicans are. Why would anyone in their right mind support or believe anything the Republicans have to offer, when they've been holding the ball in their court for years and have done less than nothing? If they want a goal or direction, maybe they should take a break from cocktail parties paid for by the taxpayer and READ THE CONSTITUTION every day for two weeks, or until it sinks in, because they FORGOT what their job is, and I DON'T LIKE PAYING THEM ANYMORE.
This is REALLY funny! I'm long popcorn.
...and diapers ...
[" For months, the GOP professional class assumed Trump and Carson would fizzle with time. Voters would get serious,..."]
ROFL ...
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The apprehension among some party elites goes beyond electability,according to one Republican strategist who spoke on the condition of anonymity to talk candidly about the worries.
“We’re potentially careening down this road of nominating somebody who frankly isn’t fit to be president in terms of the basic ability and temperament to do the job,” this strategist said. “It’s not just that it could be somebody Hillary could destroy electorally, but what if Hillary hits a banana peel and this person becomes president?”]
LMAO...
LIKE ANY OF THIS SHIT MATTERS.
THE POWERS THAT BE.....THE FUCKING CUNTS RUNNING THIS BLUE BALL, WANT AND WILL SELECT ONE....
RIGHT NOW, THAT IS CANKLES CUNTARLY CLINTON....AND UNLESS A LEE HARVEY POPS UP, THE CUNT WILL BE INSTALLED IN THE OBAMA ENTRAILS, TO ADORN HER VERY OWN HOILDAY TREE WITH COCKRINGS....JUST LIKE THE BUBBA YEARS...
The Winds of Political Change have begun blowing, seemingly only a whisper today.......
And not just in America, but in many places in the World.....
TRUMP, SANDERS, et al., are merely Manifestations of these Winds.......That may or may not become something.....
These Political Winds will Grow Stronger and Stronger until they reach Force 5.......
Nothing can or will stop them.......
There will NOT be a BUSH or CLINTON in the White House come 2017......
Often forgotten by both the Dispossessed and the Most Powerful, is that the Greatest and Most Powerful Men have Fallen Again and Again throughout History.......
They ALL share Key Attributes: Arrogance, Complacency and Misapprehension of the Political Winds......
The CONSEQUENCES ahead will not only be ECONOMIC, but POLITICAL and SOCIAL as well, and with equal severity.
Political Overreach and Political Misapprehension have always brought down even the very Most Powerful......
It is HUMAN NATURE........
And directly ahead.......
All religions are based upon BS, but the Mormons have brought their stupidity into the 19th century, making them easier to investigate and reveal as a con game. Anyone who even claims to believe this crap shouldn't be allowed to serve in public office in other than a state filled with like "minded" individuals:
South Park - Joseph Smith
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tu4y7x9LRyY
By 'fit', I'm sure the Gestapo GOP really means, "A Status Quo Stuffed Shirt" that will do the bidding of the Bankers and Poliiticians. Well, RUBIO and BUSH would be POSTER-BOYS for such fitness. Sadly (for TPTB), the American people are awake just enough not to fall for that BS again (I hope)....
America is at its end. Why not elect a non-politco. One of these people has to do better than an idiot like Obama.
If you vote for the one the establishment hates the most you get a wonderful scenaio.
Because everybody hates them, no friends thier then, no corrupt handshakes or blatant deceit.
A win for the people.
What's all the fuss? Hillary will not win, for several reasons. Who knows, she might be in jail by election day. More important, the electorate is starved for a non-politician.
For the GOP to attempt to force people to elect an insider at this point is pure suicide. And their justification is precisely backwards, and people know that. But then again, those in control of the GOP are some of the dumbest people around.
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Here is a better idea, albeit totally absurd yet totally sensible.
Elect Vladamir Putin.
Can't? Well, Obama wasn't eligible either, so who cares? At least that would put off nuclear war for another 8 years (though the neo-con-jobs would certainly try to start one before Putin took office).
Otherwise, the only individual with a good platform is Adam Kokesh. Get him to run 4 years earlier than his plan.