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"War In Paris" - ISIS Claims Responsibility For Deadly Attacks Killing 127: The Full Summary
The morning after a truly tragic Friday the 13th, France wakes up to the following front pages, among which one which best captures the atmosphere in Paris at this moment: "war in Paris":
Here is the latest summary of the aftermath from last night's six distinct attacks across Paris, compiled from numerous media outlets:
- At least 127 people are feared to have been killed according to French president Hollande in a series of devastating attacks across Paris.
- Among the dead are at least two Belgians, two Romanians and a Swedish citizen, with UK prime minister David Cameron warning British casualties are likely.
- Eight attackers also died, police say, seven of them by detonating explosive suicide belts.
- Police continue to search for accomplices who might still be at large.
- Two hundred people were injured, 80 of them seriously.
- Shootings and explosions were reported in six locations across the city, including the Stade de France in northern Paris, where two suicide attacks and a bombing took place as the national team played Germany in a friendly football match.
- The majority of victims died after a mass shooting inside the Bataclan concert venue.
- Shootings also took place in restaurants and other sites in the centre of the city.
- President François Hollande, who was at the Stade de France at the time of the assaults, said: "We are going to lead a war which will be pitiless. Because when terrorists are capable of committing such atrocities they must be certain that they are facing a determined France, a united France, a France that is together and does not let itself be moved, even if today we express infinite sorrow."
- A state of emergency has been declared across France and security at the country’s borders has been tightened.
- Paris residents have been told to stay in their homes and authorities say “all of the city’s amenities”, including schools, universities, museums, libraries, gyms, swimming pools and markets, will close on Saturday.
- US president Barack Obama described the atrocities as “an attack on all of humanity”. Australian prime minister Malcolm Turnbull said the attack “appears to have all the hallmarks of a Daesh [Islamic State] exercise”.
- Iran’s president, Hassan Rouhani, has cancelled his official visit to France, due to take place next week, in the wake of the terrorist attacks.
- UN chief Ban Ki-moon on Friday condemned "the despicable terrorist attacks carried out in various locations in and around Paris" and demanded "the immediate release of the numerous individuals reportedly being held hostage in the Bataclan theater";
- The Belgian prime minister, Charles Michel, has urged his citizens to avoid going to Paris unless “strictly necessary”. He added that security will be stepped up at public events in Belgium.
- Paris Deputy Mayor said it is a "terrible, terrible situation ... a tragedy we are facing."
- Syrian president al-Assad also condemned the attack: "What France suffered from savage terror is what the Syrian people have been enduring for over five years."
- Police have raided a Brussels neighbourhood where three of the attackers are believed to have lived, and made a number of arrests.
One of the attackers at the Bataclan is understood to be a 30-year-old French national, who was known to French police because of links to Islamic radicals. - A Syrian and an Egyptian passport were found on the bodies of the two suicide bombers who targeted the Stade de France.
- The Syrian passport belonged to a refugee who passed through Greece, according to a Greek minister.
- German authorities say they have ‘reasonable grounds to believe’ a man arrested in Bavaria earlier this month, in a car loaded with explosives, may be linked to the Paris attacks.
Where the attacks took place:
The attacks were launched in six separate locations across the city – five in the 10th and 11th arrondissements, and one close to the Stade de France, in the north of the city, where president François Hollande was attending a football match between the French and German teams. The map below highlights the most prominent ones:
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How the attacks unfolded:
- Stade de France - Bombings
Blasts were heard near the stadium in the north of Paris around 9.30pm local time on Friday. Police later confirmed there were three simultaneous bombings, including two suicide attacks, near the stadium as France played Germany in a friendly match.
French President Francois Hollande, who was at the game, left immediately. A prosecutor said people there had been fatalities, but did not confirm the number. A police union official said three people had died.
The blasts occurred near two of the stadium entrances and at a nearby McDonald's restaurant.
- Restaurant And Bar - Shooting
Around 10:30pm, there were reports of a shooting at a restaurant on Rue Alibert in the 10th arrondissement, about five miles away from the Stade de France.
At least 14 people were later confirmed dead in the rampage at Le Carillon, a bar-cafe, and the nearby Cambodian restaurant Le Petit Cambodge.
Witnesses said gunmen armed with Kalashnikov assault rifles fired at victims through the plate-glass windows.
- Bataclan Concert Hall - Bombings And Shooting
By 11pm reports emerged that the popular music venue on Boulevard Voltaire in the nearby 11th arrondissement was under attack.
Early reports suggested 15 people had been shot dead in the concert hall, where American band Eagles of Death Metal was due to play. Dozens of hostages were taken inside the venue.
A short time later, security forces launched an assault on the theatre. The two attackers were killed after detonating explosive belts. It now appears more than 80 concert-goers were killed in the venue. Initial reports suggested 120 people were killed.
According to Guardian, the attackers first sprayed cafes outside the concert hall with machine gunfire, then went inside and opened fire on the panicked audience, according to the Paris police chief. As police closed in, three of them detonated suicide vests, killing themselves and setting off explosions.
Several people inside the venue survived the massacre. The band was also confirmed as safe.
One person was also killed on Boulevard Voltaire, not far from the venue
- Cafe - Shooting
Less than a mile from the concert hall, at least 18 diners sitting on outdoor terraces at La Belle Equipe in the popular Charonne area were shot dead. Emergency workers covered bodies on the pavement outside the traditional Parisian cafe.
Le Carillon, a bar-cafe, and the nearby Cambodian restaurant Le Petit Cambodge were apparently both targeted with gunfire, killing around 14 people and leaving several gravely injured, according to the prosecutor. They are at the junction of Rue Bichat and Rue Alibert.
Witnesses described sounds like fireworks, before they realised the gravity of the situation and tried to find a place to hide, or flee.
- Pizzeria - Shooting
Five people were killed in La Casa Nostra pizzeria on Rue de la Fontaine au Roi in the 11th arrondissement.
Witnesses reported seeing a man firing a machine gun.
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The latest death toll
Latest information says that at least 120 people are believed to have been killed in six separate attacks across the city. Two hundred people are injured, 80 seriously.
- At the Bataclan concert venue, 87 people have been reported dead.
- At the Stade de France, the Paris prosecutor François Molins said “some” were killed, possibly three. (It is not clear whether this include the attackers thought to have died here.)
- At the shootings at the Rue de Charonne, 18 are dead.
- At Boulevard Voltaire, one person is dead.
- At Rue de la Fontaine au Roi, five are dead.
- At Rue Alibert, 14 are dead and “many seriously injured”.
Police say they continue to hunt for any possible accomplices to the attacks. No one has yet claimed responsibility.
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Attackers Killed
Eight extremists involved in the attacks have been killed, the prosecutor said. Seven died in suicide bombings, while the other was killed in the concert hall. Some witnesses in the hall said they heard the gunmen shout Islamic chants and slogans condemning France's role in Syria.
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Attackers still not identified
We sill do not know the identities or nationalities of the attackers involved in the Friday night attacks, though authorities say eight died, seven of them detonating suicide bombs and the final perpetrator shot by police.
Prosecutor’s office spokeswoman Agnes Thibault-Lecuivre has told AP police have not ruled out the possibility that accomplices may still be at large and that is the focus of the investigation now.
Britain is hold its own emergency meeting of the COBRA intelligence committee, called by prime minster David Cameron.
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Hollande Blames Attack on Islamic State
The French president has made an impassioned statement after the emergency security meeting this morning, where he blamed the attack on Islamic State.
Hollande said 127 people were killed in the attacks, which he described as an “act of war”. He said the attacks were co-ordinated, planned and organised from abroad with assistance from inside France.
“I pay homage to the country’s defenders who fought the terrorists yesterday,” he said. “Everyone has given their utmost and will be putting in their best efforts in the day to come.”
He called the attack “cowardly’ and said every measure would be taken to fight “the terrorist menace.”
"In this most serious and uncertain time, I call for unity and courage,” he said, adding that he would address the French parliament on Monday.
“Even if France is wounded, she will rise,” he said. The country will observe three days of mourning.
Hollande's full remarks from his address to the nation earlier from the Élysée Palace.
What happened yesterday in Paris and in Saint Denis is an act of war and this country needs to make the right decisions to fight this war. This act committed by the terrorist army, Islamic State, is against who we are, against a free country that speaks to the whole world.
It is an act of war prepared and planned outside, with outside involvement which this investigation will seek to establish. It is an act of absolute barbarism. France will be ruthless in its response to Islamic State.
At this painful and serious time, which is such a decisive one for our country, I call for unity, for a collective spirit and for cool heads. I will address Parliament at Versailles on Monday.
France is strong, and even if she is wounded, she will rise once again. Even if we are in grief, nothing will destroy her.
France is strong, valiant and will defeat this barbarism. History reminds us of this and the strength we today bear to come together convinces us of this.
My compatriots, what we defend is our homeland and much more than that, it is our own values of humanity and France will bear its responsibilities.
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Islamic State takes responsibility for Paris attacks
Shortly after Hollande's announcement blaming the Islamic State,in an official statement by ISIS, the group said France is the “top target” of the group.
It says it carefully studied the locations for the attacks, which were carried out by fighters wearing suicide belts and carrying machine guns.
Here’s the statement in French.

In the statement Islamic State said “soldiers of Caliphate has targeted the capital of abomination and perversion.”
Eight brothers carrying explosive belts and guns targeted areas in the heart of the French capital that were specifically chosen in advance: the Stade de France during a match against Germany which that imbecile Francois Hollande was attending; the Bataclan where hundreds of idolaters were together in a party of perversity as well as other targets in the 10th, 11th and 18th arrondissement
France and those who follow its path must know that they remain the principle targets of the Islamic State.
The statement from Islamic State goes on to call the attacks a response to insults directed at the Prophet Mohammed, as well as airstrikes by France on Islamic State-held territory.
The militant group says France is the Islamic State’s key target:
...having dared insult our Prophet, having bragged about fighting Islam in France and striking Muslims in the Caliphate with their planes which have not helped them in any way in the ill-smelling streets of Paris.
This attack is just the start of a storm and a warning for those who wish to draw lessons.
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Global Consequences of Attacks
According to FT, the immediate policy and political questions concern French involvement in the Middle East - as well as the impact of the attack on next month’s regional elections.
The terrorists are reported to have shouted comments about the war in Syria. France launched its first airstrikes on ISIS in Syria in September and has been involved in bombing raids on ISIS in Iraq for many months.
It is highly unlikely that President Francois Hollande will respond to the terror attacks by calling off French involvement in the war on ISIS. Indeed, in the short term, an intensification of military involvement is more likely.
The reaction of French voters will be watched closely. Next month, they go to the polls in regional elections. There were already opinion surveys that suggested that Marine Le Pen, leader of the far-right National Front, will win in the Nord-Pas de Calais region - while her niece, Marion Marechal-Le Pen has also topped some polls in the Provence region in the South.
The National Front - which has a long history of hostility to Muslim immigration and which has also argued for the restoration of frontier controls - may well benefit in the aftermath of the attacks. Some of its arguments were, in any case, already seeping into the discourse of the traditional centre-right parties.
The terror attacks in Paris also come at a time when Europe is in the midst of a “migrant crisis”. With Germany set to receive over 1m refugees this year - most of them from the war-torn Middle East - the domestic pressure on Angela Merkel, the German chancellor, to close her country’s borders to new migrants was already mounting. Even before the Paris attacks Sweden - which has taken more migrants per head than any other EU country - had announced a closure of its borders to new refugees, albeit as a temporary measure. In the aftermath of Paris, the German chancellor, will surely be tempted to take a similar measure, so easing the political and social pressure on her government. But Mrs Merkel will also be aware of the dangerous knock-on effects, such an action could have on Balkan countries further down the migrant route.
One possible consequence would be for Western policy to focus even more tightly on the defeat of the jihadists of Islamic State - while playing down subsidiary goals, such as the removal of President Bashar al-Assad of Syria. But France has been in the forefront of those countries arguing that Assad is at the centre of the problem of Syria. A complete reversal of the anti-Assad policy seems unlikely in the coming weeks. What is more likely is that policy will evolve in the coming months, as the impact, lessons and sheer shock of the Paris terror attacks is absorbed.
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Le Monde journalist Daniel Psenny, whose apartment overlooks the emergency exit of the Bataclan has posted an extraordinary video, of people clambering out of windows to escape from the theatre – a scene he said reminded him of 9/11.
The video is graphic and includes images of what appear to be dead bodies.
Psenny himself was shot in the arm as he attempted to help people shelter in his apartment, and is being treated at the Georges-Pompidou hospital.
Here’s a translation of his piece from Le Monde.
I was trying to do some work at home. The TV was on, playing a cop film starring Jean-Hugues Anglade. I heard a noise which sounded like firecrackers and initially I was convinced that it was in the film. But the noise was so loud, I went to the window. I live on the second floor and my apartment overlooks the emergency exit of the Bataclan.
Sometimes there are evacuations [in the past], but everyone was running out from all directions. I saw people on the floor, and blood... I understood then that it was something serious. I asked passersby what was happening. Everyone was running toward the Rue Amelot or the boulevard Voltaire.
A woman was clinging to the window of the Bataclan, on the second floor. I thought of those images from September 11.
So, I told myself I was going to open up to people, so they could come and take refuge. Therefore, I opened the door to my apartment. There was a man lying on the pavement and an another man whom I did not see again, he was shot as he was trying to take shelter in the lobby.
That’s the moment I took a bullet. I don’t remember much after that, I have a blank, but I remember feeling like a firecracker had exploded in my left arm and I saw that it was pissing blood. I think the shooter was at the window of the Bataclan. I went up to some neighbours on the fourth floor.
The guy we did get in [to the apartment] was shot in the leg. He was an American. He vomited, he was cold and we thought he was going to die. We called the emergency services but they couldn’t get us out. I called a friend who is a doctor and she explained how to make a tourniquet with my shirt. We were stuck in the apartment until the police raid occurred and they came to find us.
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Below are some of the most dramatic scene from yesterday's tragedy captured by Bloomberg:

Forensic police search for evidences inside the Comptoir Voltaire cafe at the site of an attack in Paris on Saturday, Nov. 14.

Forensic police search for evidences inside the La Belle Equipe cafe on rue de Charonne at the site of an attack in Paris on Saturday, Nov. 14.
Forensic police search for evidences inside the La Belle Equipe cafe on rue de Charonne at the site of an attack in Paris on Saturday, Nov. 14.

French President Francois Hollande, center, flanked by French Interior Minister Bernard Cazeneuve, left, and French Prime Minister manuel Valls addresses reporters near the Bataclan concert hall in central Paris in the early morning of Saturday, Nov. 14.

Police forces, firefighters and rescue workers secure the area near the Bataclan concert hall in central Paris in the early morning of Saturday, Nov. 14.

Investigating police officers work outside the Stade de France stadium, in Saint Denis, outside Paris, Friday Nov. 13.

French security moves people in the area of Rue Bichat of the 10th arrondissement in Paris on Friday, Nov. 13.

Victims lay on the pavement outside a restaurant in Paris on Friday, Nov. 13.

Spectators gather on the pitch of the Stade de France stadium following the friendly football match between France and Germany in Saint-Denis, north of Paris, on Friday, Nov. 13
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LOL
Go back further... you've not heard of the crusades apparently.
Or you've just conveniently ignored them.
He ignores any wrong doing conected to Christian or Jewish faiths, and has done since he first arrived at ZH
I do not.
The Crusades were a belated military response to 3 centuries of Muslim aggression in the Holy Land. It took the West three hundred years of seeing our Christian pilgrims harassed, raped, murdered, etc. before the barons and Cardinals finally had enough, and did something about it. Some of the Crusades were more effective than others. The sacking of Constantinople was a complete disgrace. But the spirit behind the Crusaders was noble.
You really need to read more before posting comments. You appear to have gotten whatever "education" you think you have from a TV set.
That's not the whole story. Similar to what happens today, Crusades and the regional power imbalances that they caused at the time led to a swift rise of the Ottoman Empire.
History doesn't repeat, but it certainly does rhyme.
Also a lot of the Crusades were tied to the eradication of the Nag Hamadi and the Gnostic teachings. The Muslims of the day took it upon themselves to guard the texts/scrolls and many died doing so. The crusades then lead to the Spanish Inquisition which was a further extermination of gnostics. THe reason for this is complex, but it had to do with the second rise fo Rome as a religious superpower. Roman Christianity is a hodge podge mix of many different religious, but mainly Gnostisism and their teachings. in order to not have two conflicting versions of christianity it was order for it to be eradicated from Europe and North Africa.
Don't forget the Siege of Constantinople in 1204 and the resulting Latin Empire.
Undoubtedly Crusades were aggressive wars waged more with a purpose of pillaging than global domination. To understand this, as well as the extermination of many Gnostic movements and teachings of the Middle Ages that you're pointing to, you have to put into perspective the power structure: Vatican hired, owned and paid a large part of European 'MIC' in those times. That is how current Vatican wealth (and Library) was 'earned'.
Indeed. It even spawned the word Antagonist. The word is derrived from the term Anti-gnistics, which were the "Elite" vatacan assassins who carried out mass killings of gnostics. interesting that the one world religion of Lucifer would leave out the historical teachings of how they exterminated true Christianinty and forced its dark religion onto the world under the guise of rightousness. All the world will be decieved, indeed.
You may be right about the Crusades being tied to " eradication of the Nag Hamadi and the Gnostic teachings", but what evidence do you have that "Muslims of the day took it upon themselves to guard the texts/scrolls and many died doing so"?
I think you have that latter part wrong.
It's true that the Roman emperor Constantine was responsible for the re-arrangement and/or omission of certain Gospel texts (some of which came to light in 1945-47, etc), as per the Nicene Council. That was in response to having to reconcile the new Christian movement with the entrenched Roman paganism of that time. There is also much evidence that a certain psuedo-Jewish sect commonly referred to as the Essenes were keepers/guardians of the original Gnostic scrolls you refer to, which most likely were tied with the very first original Christians (albeit the Essenes go further back in history than the Christians or Christ). The Gnostics were also most likely to become the most persecuted of the Christians, and that is probably why they also remained in remote and secretive communities.
I have never heard any theory or evidence of any Muslim having to do with protecting or guarding any Christian Gnostic material.
Please enlighten me with some links if you have them.
This is the best link I can find. im going to have to find the actual nag Hamadi book in my basement, if I still have it, could be in the ex wives posession. Its been a good 16 years since I have loked ino this. seems as though it was just Egyptian "monks" that took the original books and hid them. The reason for ths chasm is that Islam and Gnostic Christianity are exceptionaly similar and ver compatible religions as neither suggest christ was ever crucified, its very difficult to find any decent non Roman Christian information invoving tis situation.
http://www.gnosis.org/naghamm/Pagels-Gnostic-Gospels.html
I have read the Nag Hammadi and other "gnostic" literature, as well as studied it's history. Elaine Pagels is pretty much the foremost historian on Gnostics.
My point was, and still remains, there is nothing that supports your statement of any Muslim having been a guardian of Gnostic material in any form whatsoever. In fact, they probably would have (and might have) destroyed any Gnostic texts or scrolls they came across immediately.
For the history of who actually preserved and/or (somewhat successfully) tried to guard Gnostic material one would look to the brotherhood (and sisterhood, perhaps) of the Essenes, and they are nowhere near Islamic.
It's important not to confuse this history.
Who gives a rip about the crusades??
Besides, go back a little further and you will see that it was a reaction to Muslims attacking other religions in the region.
...but you sound like a five year old and the old "Johhy did it too" excuse.
The Islamic Crusades? Why yes, I've heard of them and they started long before the Christian Crusades.
How you've conveniently overlooked that portion of history just tells me your education is stunted as well.
And for the people giving the Possum up arrows for it's comments, you all need to go back and do a bit more study.
Here's a starting point..
https://factreal.wordpress.com/2010/02/12/muslim-crusades-started-four-c...
This isn't exactly rocket science.
I'm sorry, but....didn't the Crusades happen a THOUSAND FUCKING YEARS AGO?
Jackass.
I'm sorry, but....didn't the Crusades happen a THOUSAND FUCKING YEARS AGO?
Reply:
If other people believe things, and act on it, that is the test. Do Islamics believe their doctrine , even if it was invented a thousand fucking years ago? Of course they do.
Before calling somebody names and making ad-hominems, maybe you should look in a mirror.
For Islamists, the Crusades figure very prominantly in their worldview
Jackass
Of course. There there is the Freedom loving greeks, romans, napoleonic french, cossack russians, huns, crusaders, mongols ... all who conquered as much or more territory through violence.
The Military Industrial Complex has existed for a very long time and does not have a race, color, or religion. Well they might have all been fundementally part of a a religion called human secularism.
'...what's been done in Middle Eastern countries for about 14 centuries...'
Here's a picture for you.....yes those are girls.
http://www.raymondibrahim.com/_admin/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/armen1.jpg
http://www.raymondibrahim.com/islam/the-forgotten-genocide-why-it-matters-today/
Don't think I'll be able to eat for a while after seeing that pic.
Srdja Trifkovic has written about the Armenian genocide. He's the only author I've encountered to tell the truth about that, and the genocide of Serbs by the Kosovo invaders (helped by Mad Albright) in 1999.
Don't think I'll be able to eat for a while after seeing that pic.
Congratulations......you're normal.
From your informative link...
This perspective ties things together, the giant stay puft marshmallow man is sending out his hordes on the masses. Good thing the world's governments are prepared...to lead us to the slaughter.
For Islam to despise all that is Western, it sure is shameless in living off the fruits of the Western garden. How many Europeans were welcomed to the Muslim middle east during and after WWII ? Silence ? Millions of refugees in Europe, dealt with, often poorly, but by Europe and the West.
Although I agree that the root cause begins with Mohamed's conceit that killing all non-Muslims is OK'd by the big, angry guy in the sky, today's clusterfuck is founded in the stupidity of "Regime change". Booting out Saddam and Assad required a price that none of our self-appointed Chrystal-Ballers had or wanted to see on their radar.
K
^^^This.
Whatever the motivations and results of The West's military "conquests" in the ME (conspiracies or not), and the whole of Christianity's violent history, there is no proof or hint or history of ANY real form of peace (virtual or otherwise) in Islam and it's doctrines.
It's quite the opposite.
Well, NATO has been decidedly on target in these people's homeland.
And the Mohammedans who attacked Paris last night were reported as having made statements indicating that France's involvement in Syria was part of their motivation.
Who cares?
Because of the Muslim practice of "divine deception," which is taught in the Koran, we Westerners can't believe anything that comes out of these people's mouths. All we can do is evaluate their BEHAVIOR over extended periods of time, and draw reasonable conclusions from that. It is a well-established fact that Mohammedans have spent the last 14 centuries spreading hate, oppression, murder, rape, pillage, and destruction to everywhere on Earth that they invade.
If Syria is the proximate cause they claim for doing THE SAME THING THEY'VE ALWAYS DONE, this is nothing more than a convenient excuse. This isn't a chicken-or-egg paradox. Islam has as its main priority the violent subjugation of Dar al Harb by any means necessary to establish what they call "peace," which means submission to Sharia law, or death for we infidels.
I care.
I care enough to ask, "why?"
I care enough to not be lead blindly into belief or battle.
I care enough to consider the data, form a conclusion, and voice my opinion.
Blindly follow the fed into their suicide wishes for the American people, and don't ask why or criticize their beliefs either, they get mad at that and voice their opinion by making implements of destruction.
With 14 centuries of data, I'd expect a reasonable person to form a conclusion that's in line with reality.
"Led blindly into belief or battle?" Good grief. These are leftist talking points. You get that from Rachael Maddow? When losing a debate, accuse your opponent of being close-minded, or a blind zealot. Then, declare your completely unqualified "right to voice my opinion" and act as if you've scored a touchdown.
I suppose I should accept your unconditional surrender.
RAdm Bill Sullivan published the JCS presentation: "The Long War" back when. It was scrubbed from the net as "un-PC".
Let me know when you finish examining the 1000+ years of data compiled on islam. Islamists perpetrated the first genocide of the 20th century, and fully supported the 2nd. My conclusion is that islam is a bloodthirsty and tyrannical political ideology that is mutually exclusive with personal freedoms, the appreciation and respect for culture (both modern and ancient), and one of the most fundamental human advancement principles, advanced education.
"Some witnesses in the hall said they heard the gunmen shout Islamic chants and slogans condemning France's role in Syria."
I care because the West's effort in Syria has been totally ineffective in harming ISIS, if not helping them with weapons supplies and attacks against Syrian infrastructure. So this terrorist attack could be used as an excuse for NATO and/or France to enter the Syrian conflict in a bigger way, in order to thwart the Russian/Syrian offensive against ISIS and the "moderate" militants. The militants fighting in Syria are a Western asset, for now trying to overthrow Assad, with later plans to destabilize the countries on Russia's southern border.
Russia has accomplished more in 1.5 months of bombing than the Western effort of over 1 year, even though the US spends almost 10 times as much on its military than Russia, to say nothing of the US' allies.
"kee betachbulot ta'ase lecha milchama"
"With clandestine terrorism we will conduct war"
Mossad
.."Because of the Muslim practice of "divine deception," which is taught in the Koran, we Westerners can't believe anything that comes out of these people's mouths. All we can do is evaluate their BEHAVIOR over extended periods of time, and draw reasonable conclusions from that. It is a well-established fact that Mohammedans have spent the last 14 centuries spreading hate, oppression, murder, rape, pillage, and destruction to everywhere on Earth that they invade."
"By Way of Deception". Hmmm, whose motto might that be? Of course, with just 14 centuries of spreading hate, oppression, murder, rape, pillage, and destruction, Islam is late to the party. Hate, oppression, murder, rape, pillage, and destruction is human nature which of course is the monkey on the species back.
It's ok, I get it. You need to have someone or something to blame to justify your own self-righteousness.
Fuckwit.
Thank you for your contribution to the thread.
I drove down the coast of southern Italy this fall and saw the history of the muslim invasion first hand. The coast was dotted with watch towers. There were two kinds, the older square towers and the later round ones. The square towers were built to warn of of the early Saracen raids (8th to 15th century) while the round towers were built to deflect cannon ball fire from the Barbary pirates from the 16th century into the 19th century. The raiders were of course all muslim.
The locals are well aware of the irony given what is going on with the current wave of refugees washing ashore...
I lived in Sicily for 3 years when I was a Navy helicopter pilot. Got to see a lot of those old towers scattered across the island. The town of Enna is one big fortress. Anyway, your observations are similar to what I remember.
The earliest known recordings of Sicilian folk music are almost purely Arabic in both instrumentation and structure, and truly beautiful.
All of these pathetic think-tank arguments for Islamophobia aren't really rooted in history at all. It's like watching a toddler hypothesize about the purpose of pyramids at Giza. Good thing the average westerner is at the same general level of knowledge I guess.
Mohammedan talking points. Nothing new here. These people like to exaggerate egregiously their contributions to the other civilizations they've "touched." The truth about Islam is that it destroys art, is hostile to higher learning (especially for women), treats most music (including the classics like Mozart and Ludwig von) as if it were evil, and produces nothing to replace the beautiful artifacts of civilization that it has obliterated.
Dr. Trifkovic's "The Sword of the Prophet" is a must-read.
http://www.amazon.com/Sword-Prophet-History-Theology-Impact/dp/192865311...
Yeah... I won't be reading anything written by someone whose post-doctoral "research" was funded by the US STATE DEPARTMENT, sorry.
Just how how fucking thick must one be to choose such garbage? I mean hopefully you're getting paid, and this isn't just some retarded personal crusade.
Wait, is this Falcon Flight? Are you skimming your .gov trolling job by having more than one account here, or is it just good policy? Did you keep the names similar so they lined up more nicely in the report? LMAO
Stupid argument. There are "watchtowers" on literally every antique metropolis's coastline on earth. I suppose the Vikings were secret muslims too. I mean your Vikingophobia game is pretty weak dude, why do they get a pass?
And anyway, it was Italy who invaded the entire known world for 500 years straight. (then took a break, rebranded "The Vatican" into a similar force, and did the same by proxy for the next 1500)
Yes the Roman Empire vatican forces of darkness get a pass. Lets count the countries that fucking place as "genocided". it would be easier to just list continents and regions of continents. North America, Central America, South America, Northern Africa, The Middle East, The Near East, Northern Europe, Central Europe, India, and various parts of Assia and Asian Pacific Islands. Catholisism the Religion of Peace.
Remember we're talking 14 CENTURIES of carnage here.
Not just a few hundred years.
Astoundingly facile, non-contextual, and ahistorical. Not to mention unoriginal.
Que?
"They (Muslims) pray to a false God, otherwise, they wouldn't be killing innocent lives" - Goerge W. Bush.
"No religion is responsible for terrorism — people (doing THIER Gods work) are responsible for violence and terrorism" - Barack Obama
"Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as when they do it from religious conviction" - Blaise Pascal
Religion has turned into nothing but a distraction. My GOD, how many millions of teeth-gnashing posts about Islam can Americans churn out today?
What religion is the MIC, for all they have wrought? Satanist?
The religion of the Death Eaters. ive kinda invented that phrase. It basically describes a people that live for and worship the dealing of death as a solution to their lack of critical thinking and understanding of a more complex world. Death Eaters view themselves as being above the threat of Death, therefore once Death is commited against them, it increases their thirst for blood and vengence. Signs of a Death Eater are easy to spot. They generally worship Human skulls or any image of Death as a way to signify thier willingness to comit murder to further their masters agenda. Patches of skulls. skull tattoos, threats of death or violence, and the obsession with violence are traits of the Dath Eaters.
Every religion practices "Devine Deception".
Get a clue already.
False.
that thing can't fly
Europeans have watch the most enchanting cultures on earth (my opinion) get culturally bomshelled over the past 40 years and done little. They've lost lives. Their own citizens are leaving their homelands, while they import foreigners who not only do not share their values, but hate their values...and yet it continues.
Now, it's going to cost you in the wallet. How many hundreds of millions of dollars in lost economic activity through the decimation of your tourist industry is this going to cost you? Wake up. Didn't you know that even before this event many of us have avoided traveling to Paris because....it's just not "Paris" any more!! It's sad to me.
Every year I watch the tour-de-France just because I love the French countryside. Some of the most beautiful scenery in the world. This is still real France...wake up before you lose it all.
God Bless France
. Every year I watch the tour-de-France just because I love the French countryside..
Cool I'm not the only one then!
I have not even considered returning to Europe the past 8 years due to how dangerous the streets are there nowadays. Germany and Austria used to be two of the few safe countries left but now that's gone. Gotta be nuts to travel there on vacation.
Lol sure, Chicago ist that much safer. You truly live behind the moon but that's ok, I hope it's cosy and safe there.
The most infuriating thing - at least in Au is the media is spewing forth shit like "This may lead to the US toughening it's stance on ISIL which has softened over the past months".. no mention whatsoever that Russia has been destroying command centres and stopping supply lines left right and centre... doing more in a few months than the 'alies' manages in a few years. Fucks sake.. Russia doesn't even exist in our media.
Job 4:8
As I have observed, those who plow evil and those who sow trouble reap it.
when might these blessed events happen? Not soon enough.
Because it's always someone else's fault. France "asked"for it, hey?
Tell me, were you born stupid or did you take lessons?
Should we expect Syria to be carved up into Ally Sectors, the way Berlin was after WW2?
Lemme guess, the Americans get the Kurd Sector (the N+NE sector, i.e. Pipeline sector) and the Golan Sector (Oil and Water sector).
/heavy sarc
An American expert was on UK radio (LBC) this morning arguing that the solution to terror attacks in Europe is airstrikes against Assad's forces. This went unquestioned.
Not surprised. My 'Merikan wife's reaction to all this, was to go shopping to Costco and Petsmart.
To save 15%. It's what she does. I'm so screwed. Figuratively, speaking.
False Flag, WW3 here we come!!
Been here awhile. This is just round 2 (or 3 or 4? I've lost count).
Welcome back to earth, dude.
" Solution: NATO in Syria.
Action: "ISIS" attacks France
Reaction: Public demands NATO in Syria."
why not NATO in Gaza and Jerusalem too?
If we could observe in real-time logistics operations of NATO, we would see that the preparation of NATO forces for the invasion in Syria is already under way right now in full swing.
A decision, a decision it will be announced for us later.
Public demand we nuke Syria and all Isis strong hold.
And Russia will just stop for lunch while we do that?
Nope, our gov will stop for breakfast lunch and dinner while Russians do the rest.
Jihadi John was supposedly blown up by a Hellfire missile last week, the UK better brace itself for an attack.
I wouldn't be at all surprised if all border controls across Europe are reinstated next week.
One can hope, but you know what they say about that...
A warning about the Paris terror attacksDear friends,
While it is way too early to come to any conclusions about what really happened in Paris, I want to share the following thought with you: President Hollande has just declared that what took place was an act of war. This, in turn, means that the entire NATO alliance could be called in to respond to this (under Article 5). As for the attackers, already one Syrian passport was found, and witnesses say that one of them screamed “for Syria” before opening fire. In other words, this attack has just given NATO a pretext to intervene in Syria. Last, but not least, the only French aircraft carrier was schedule to leave its port this Wednesday. For the Middle-East, precisely.
http://thesaker.is/a-warning-about-the-paris-terror-attacks/
Of course, because a handful of rogue terr'rists living in France, killing French people while shouting about Syria, the same guys the MSM reported last night as 'disgruntled Frenchmen' -- are clearly Assad's fault.
You know, for being the guy the terrorists really hate for trying to take them out. Like they really hate Russia, and Iran, and oh yeah, the US too! Right? That terrorist enemy the US is supposed to be targeting, all on the same side?
Let's hope we don't get any disgruntled USians living in Pyonyang throwing bombs at lunchers while shouting about the Spratleys. Then we'd have to expect the North Koreans and Chinese to start invading, pushing for regime change. Because that would clearly be Obama's fault, ESPECIALLY if an American government identity document is found lying nearby.
Sadly, I'm sure the Saker is correct here. He usually is about this kind of thing. I guess it helps the efficiency if you don't sweat government or international authorisation, or international law -- or reason or logic -- complicated stuff like that.
Handful of rogue terrorists? These are the moderate terrorists, the enamorati of John McCain, hisself!
LOL! Sir, I stand corrected. "Rogue" terrorists was clearly over the line. (And even a tautology.) I have invaded the Hedge's safe space. I withdraw my "rogue" and will just use the less inflammatory term, "terrorists".
You, sir, are a gentleman and a diplomat who shows great awareness of the language of government! Thank you for the edumacation.
Those who organized it in Paris, and is well know and understand how the markets work gold. And not only know, but can these markets are make. Market preparation for these events, was began two weeks ago and it can be clearly seen in the gold charts. This is called "price growth start from a low base".
GLADIO is that you but dressed in ISIS clothing?
http://www.truthmove.org/content/operation-gladio/
C'est la question.
The religion of peace strikes again. Obama will have a hard time using this attack as a justification for more gun control in America. One of the first sites blown up by Russian fighter jets in Syria was a suicide vest factory run by ISIS, the same Russia that is Obama enemy number one for actually targeting ISIS headquarters with bombs and Caspian sea-based cruise missiles.
Now we know what would have happened if Spencer Stone and friends had not stopped that ISIS terrorist on the high speed train in August. Stone's actions were reason enough for Lord High Executioner Obama to arrange for a hit team to kill Stone in Sacramento, a job they almost accomplished. Obama said that the French attacks were an attack on humanity. No, this attack was an attack on Western civilization by the New World Order, an attack carried out by Obama's proxy al-Qaeda degenerate rapist-murderers.
While Obama is in charge, Western civilization is in grave danger.
If you believe Obama is "in charge" you have no clue how the world actually works. Obama is a sociopath and a traitor, but he is by no means "in charge". He takes orders, he does not give them.
I do believe he gives the order for which golf course to play...
Obama is not in control.
"While Obama is in charge, Western civilization is in grave danger."
America is full of people that want to destroy western civilization. This is no secret.
Many of them are coddled on campuses @ 'public' universities.
First secretly and covertly you arm them to the teeth with heavy weaponry … then you bomb the hell out of them… then when it’s time to deal with the consequences you appear all shocked and declare revenge… how do you spell idiotic?
Khemer Rouge were driven insane by the B52 raids on NVA supply lines. When they could not take anymore, they went looking for where they were coming from.
And they were coming from the people of Cambodia? You make no sense.
Yep. And the two comments above you are what is idiotic: our 'nonsensical', 'idiotic' leaders and their false-flag-remote-controlled-enemies are just playing stupid roles. This was no mistake made on their part!
This is not blowback, but rather a redirection of forces: the Western-backed mercenaries that have been murdering millions of people in the Middle East have simply been used by their masters to kill a few hundred at home, to stir up the political capital needed for the next step in their stupid full spectrum domination plans.
There is no doubt our elites are fucking morons (MK-ULTRA victims, actually), but this blowback is NOT an oopsie on their part. Their puppets (the politicians) have been warning us of this blowback coming for months and YEARS. This is just more artificial chaos for them to misuse.
Obama's fault
I wonder if the French are starting to realize the mistakes of their immigration policies. This is probably a tiny premonition of what should be expected in Germany on a regular basis going forward.
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None of this has ever happened before!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B7LBSDQ14eA
Who would plant a Syrian passport other than the same people who pulled off 911 and planted other passports at the foot of the WTC? The zionnazis who want the French to get rid of Assad so they can expand into Syria. How many times does this have to happen before people wake up?
A well planned and coordinated attack. Where is the NSA and the CIA and all these other goons spying on us all to keep us safe? Whare is the security? Why the fuck didn't you stop this?
wanna hear the truth about this hoax?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UGsQzjTXCo0&feature=share
“If Putin wants to go and knock the hell out of ISIS, I am all for it, one-hundred percent, and I can’t understand how anybody would be against it.”
-Donald Trump, four days ago.
Yes. Trump going along with Putin means no more bullshit about "moderate rebels" and so on.
Langley does not like Putin attacking their creation:
ISIS was founded and funded by the US and its allies like Saudi Arabia
ISIS: The jihadist movement stamped “Made in America”
https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2014/07/30/isis-j30.html
USA, Turkey and Israel Act As Air Force for ISIS
http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2015/08/usa-turkey-and-israel-act-as-air-...
The US arming of ISIS
https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2015/06/03/pers-j03.html
Poll shows 81 percent of Syrians believe US created ISIS
https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2015/09/18/isis-s18.html
1 yr, 6,700 airstrikes & $4bn after Obama vowed to ‘destroy’ ISIS, jihadists still on offensive
http://investmentwatchblog.com/1yr-6700-airstrikes-4bn-after-obama-vowed...
“In normal times, evil should be fought by good, but in times like this, well, it should be fought by another kind of evil” - Riddick
Pretext for nato to invade syria, really for regime change and to box out russia.
Action reaction pretextual solution
Real islamic psychos, real puppeteering by western spooks.
http://www.mintpressnews.com/isis-israel-iraq-and-syria-its-all-part-of-...
http://www.counterpunch.org/2015/10/12/us-caught-faking-it-in-syria/
Also note timing day before vienna meeting.
Isis is a us/saudi/israeli proxy - the evidence is substantial.
France24 just flashed on screen that a syrian passport has been found nearby one of the suicide bombers
What is it with passports and these "operations"?
"When questioned by police while carrying an AK-47, a vest full of magazines and a suicide belt, merely present your passport and you'll be on your way."
What is it with passports and these "operations"?
Convenience ?
Sure simplifies the police investigation and paperwork, no?
;-)
And leading the useless eaters to conclusions that don't require actual thought process.
French police do seem to get lucky, first Charlie Hedbo and now this. ;-)
They should make tank armor or airplane black boxes out of those ME passports considering their nearly indestructible nature.
Right. That's what I would do if going off into the great unknown from whence I might never come back. Make sure that I have my passport. It's right up there beside 'Make sure all the lights are turned off'. lol.
Why don't you give us the John Madden play by play.
CNN says 7 of the 8 attackers died from their own suicide bomb. So did the passport survive the blast or was it found on lucky number 8?
You just can't make this shit up if it were on TeeVee. Oh...wait....now I'm really confused.
Well armed "suicide bombers" and all they can do or plan is to kill everyday people and never the political class that actually makes the policy. That is a textbook Gladio outcome -- terrorize and kill the innocent. Watching.
Conversation with average person on the street. "Wasn't Gladio the movie with Russell Crowe as the gladiator?"
Your cynicism is duly noted as is mine.
I read a CNN article this morning to get a take on the MSM spin and thought I was reading a fictional novel based upon the language used in the piece. It read just like a Tom Clancy classic, but with an over-the-top use of breathless action/adventure adjectives and verbs.
I turned to Mrs. Cog, read her a few paragraphs and remarked how wonderful modern day journalism is.
Theatre du Gran Guignol
Is it just coincidence this latest 'horror' occurred on Friday the 13th? Paging Freddy Krueger and Jason Voorhees.
that is a really good point
guess they are educated to be just as stupid as the western world?
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Not textbook Gladio. Suicide bombers are unable to conduct subsequent missions.
It survived the blast, they all survive such incidents.
Anything CNN says is ***ALWAYS*** a lie. Fox and CNN are more alike then people realize. they are both full on Neo-Con/Neo-Lib. CNN hates white Americans but loves war. I do not watch TV or Hollywood's shit.
I do not watch shit TV but was watch RT's coverage on the web. RT has started to get shitty like CNN. I wionder if the death/murder of the Russian guy who founded RT (9at the Dupont hotel in DC) was a takeover of RT.
<<France24 just flashed on screen that a syrian passport has been found nearby one of the suicide bombers>>
That does it. I'm definitely going with False Flag on this one.
The Cabal is starting to lose (it), and they are now desperately trying to sow chaos anywhere they can in an attempt to retain power. Even Canada, where I live, is getting ready to import large numbers of destabilisation agents. (Great timing, BTW, Trudeau.) Every western puppet is called on to act fast, before anyone has time to think let alone vote on these obvious sabotages. The 'west' is about to get the same treatment they've been handing out to the Middle East, and this is the announcement, just as WTC was how the Cabal announced NWO to the world. They're trying to flood our cultures with refugees and thugs, and then they'll implement lockdown.
There is a strong emerging consensus that Daesh works for the Cabal. Daesh is the hands; but the Cabal, including most 'western' entrenched powers, is the brain. And on the verge of losing the Middle East, that brain has realised that it's on the brink of a tipping point. The Bilderberg fiat system is on its last legs, exposed worldwide as without foundation, and its banks exposed as insolvent. Growing minorities of populations are waking up fast, and the opposing world powers are uniting and have lost patience. Interest rates can't go anywhere, stock markets can't go anywhere, the Cabal is uncertain of military strength, and nationalist movements are gaining power all over Europe. I think Hollande is doing this to try to make sure Le Pen doesn't take his power away from him.
The 'west', including France, has been under unheard-of personal surveillance, telecom snooping, cameras, intrusive 'law enforcement', you name it, and they DIDN'T see this coming in any way??? It was a complete surprise to them? Bullshit. They had to know, if they did not plan it themselves, and I believe they did b/c Daesh is their terrorism arm. The Cabal got away with the WTC, and now they're trying to get away with another big one. They need to destabilise the native populations of Europe and America, and if they don't do it fast they will be unable to consolidate power, before later trying to retake the Middle East.
These terrorists -- very helpfully for the audience -- shout 'Allahu Akbar' and, for those of us who were a little slow to make the connection, add 'This is for Syria' -- then rush out a press release post-quick to make good and sure everyone gets terrorised. BUT they don't try to pull anything on RUSSIA, or on Iran, who are Daesh's main opponents. No, they go for France, one of the European countries they're coincidentally now flooding with refugees and destabilisation agents. Bullshit, bullshit, SON o' Bullshit. It's starting to look as obvious as the WTC. (And why are suicide bombers wearing masks? Why would suicidal terrorists obscure their faces anyway?) This is not a Muslim thing nor a race thing and nor a religious thing. It's a Cabal thing, by the usual NWO Cabal terrorists who are now going for chaos in the 'West' since deception has stopped working. The reason it looks like Merkel's lost all sanity is b/c the Cabal is losing its power. This is a bunch of insolvent bankers and war criminal politicians, who are running out of time, and who have resorted to doubling down bigger & better in order to rule longer via terror and chaos, to try for time in order to regroup.
I didn't want to jump to conclusions last night, but now a passport? Gotta go to Google to confirm this, but passport or no passport, it's time to get real. I'm jumping. This is Cabal desperation. They're trying to terrify as many people as they can into not leaving the status quo, and they're trying to show the opposing elites that they'll kill anyone they have to anywhere they have to in order to 'win'. And on fucking Friday the 13th no less. These satanists have the subtletly of a piledriver.
It's a horrible thing to have loved ones killed by terrorists. Even worse when those terrorists are lined up by your own elites.
ETA: Passport confirmed.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/paris-terror-attacks-syri...
Who the fuck brings their passport to a mass murder or suicide bombing? Masks and a passport, really, Cabal? REALLY? No, this is just unbelievably obvious now. Fuck you, Hollande, you piece of garbage.
A JV member who was caught up with the excitement of it all. Heard they were about to retire the team and didn't get the promotion he thought he deserved, that's who the fuck.
Yeah, for sure:
-- "Guns? Check. Masks? Check. Bomb? Check -- oh, hang on, Adad, nearly forgot my passport! Can't leave without that, how else can we leave evidence of clear identity for the backstory? Just like WTC and Charlie Hebdo taught us, can't do any good terrorising without yer passport!"
-- "That's why I always carry mine right here in my pants pocket, Baltasar. Everywhere I go, so I don't have to remember to bring it with me whenever I shoot up and bomb local restaurants... You never know when you want yer identity easily confirmed by authorities after the fact! Now, got your mask on nice and snug so nobody can identify you by your face? All righty then, I guess we're ready to go."
SON o' bullshit. What kind of moron actually believes that 'evidence' -- especially as a repeat pattern? Maybe next time they'll drop a birth certificate, you know, just for variety.
Re. the final sentence/question: The average westerner.
Didn't you hear - passports are harder than diamond, they don't melt when steel beams around them do, and they are combustion proof.
Shit son, we need to build houses and buildings out of passports.
Then the average westerner is pretty stinkin' dumb.
Notice their preference for 3-word slogans, BTW? "War on Terror. "Je suis Charlie." "Pray for Paris." I guess Marketing must know their audience pretty well. A 3-word slogan is about as simple as they can make it.
3 words, 4 syllables, just right for a sticker or shirt pin. Next comes the inevitable mugs, T-shirts, and coloured ribbon campaign, maybe another damn march.
What I'm waiting for, and it won't be a very long wait, is the inevitable charitable donation campaigns raking in $10's of millions for the supposed victims.
From what I have read, the Boston Marathon and Sandy Hook incidents have each raked in close to $100 million. Let's see if the French can beat that record!
"Maybe next time they'll drop a birth certificate, you know, just for variety."
Hopefully the forgery will be better than Obama's. Hope and change bitches.
IKR?
heh - no, Cogni, we're always sure it's their REAL passports, so it'll have to be their true and non-forged birth certificates, you see. If the docs were forged, well then how could the police know their names to a dead cert? Could cause press delays, and waste heaps of police resources on investigation. It would be most inconsiderate of them to drop forged or fake documents, now wouldn't it. And as violent and hateful and irrational as these terrorists are, they traditionally show due consideration of government identity papers and media backstory. That part must be clear and eeeeeasy. Forgery, well, that would defeat the purpose and just be rather rude. Can't let some people get the idea that a terrorist might drop fake papers. There's the reputation to consider.
Now, me, I'm from the farm, so if I wanted my identity known beyond doubt, or hell, if I were about to commit suicide and didn't really care, I'd just leave off the fucking MASK, you see. Would also be less conspicuous sneaking into position unmasked, at that. But faces seen by thousands or a video record might not quite be clear enough for government work. MSM narrative should be kept, what's the word... uncomplicated.
Come to think of it, if I was going to attend a suicide bombing, who's to say that proper identity papers wouldn't be among the top ten things I'd bring along? What if I go ahead and blow everyone up, and then the Times don't spell my name right? What if I can't get into Paradise without them? I mean, they might have some kind of fence or border control in the great hereafter... maybe every good terrorist likes to bring their certified papers along, you know, for the virgins or something.
Upvoted your comments last night but kept an open mind. So much for THAT -- you certainly had their number. But even the dumbest of us should at least be getting a tiny whiff of rat about now.
Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion.
It's all part of the plan...
In retrospect, Hollande was always a compromised, controlled, deer-in-the headlights looking, weak excuse for a leader. His installment and broad allowance for poor-performance in a country where the citizenry generally gives a shit about politics was a mystery to me up until the past year, when their provincial MIC apparatus fully knuckled under to ZATO and moved product to Egypt(!) knowing there would be no possibility of GDP-boosting, future business with RUSNAV.
L' Affaire Dreyfus must have really bugged somebody somewhere a lot because France is shaping up to be the cornerstone piece for the cultural destruction of Europa.
I'm going to have some clothing made out of the material they use to make passports, since it seems to survive "ground zero" blast effects so easily... while I'm at it I may throw in some ballistic plates made out of the stuff they use for black boxes in aircraft...
I think they sould coat tanks with the material those passports are made of. Incredible strength.
When are we killing the next batch of Muslims? Who gives a shit if not long ago with sanctions we killed 500,000 Iraqi kids? the 125-165 French citizens need to be avenged!
A syrian passport doesn't mean anything. You can buy them for cheap in Turkey. Officially registered Syrian passports. This was already known for months at the Hungarian inteligence before we shut the border. These illegal immigrants bought it to get the refugee status in the EU. So probably all false flag.
could also be a pretext to suspend schengen until further notice.
Since the EU president has said that suspending schengen is the first step in the collapse of the EU, and the collapse of the EU /will/ end in war, you just might be right.
War in our time!
Do you mean that this isn't it...(war)?
The time-honoured and blatantly obvious solution for the European Union would be to enforce Europe's external border to prevent any concerned state falling back to policing their own borders, but for some strange reason that is out of the question.
I wonder what the reason could be?
that's a very good point.
Exactly, NATO cannot stand back and let Syria/Russia/Iran/Lebanon defeat ISIS, their proxy/patsy, depending on the need. They would likely end up with control of northern Iraq as well. Not good for business, not good for Israel.
http://www.historycommons.org/context.jsp?item=western_support_for_islam...
A qatari pipeline was never going through any stria flooded with takfiri nutjob proxy dupes.
Stop irans pipe, gobble golan, deArabize the lebensraum, into sinai and lebanon, sell gas to europe from leviathan, get white european christians killing each orger sgain while also killing muslims...
I mean .... How is this not obvious? What level of evidence do you require to begin to consider that the msm says what gov says on foreign policy uncritically - and governments lie to their people aaaallllll the time.
But why in the fuck would you never ever doubt a government that has repeatedly lied in the past? I mean you fucking people who are buying Fox News, snd put the liberal conservative shit aside for the moment - theyre naked lies, Militarist (mic) and zionist propaganda.
Wake up. Consider considering what Im saying first - then junk me.
Belief is a tool. You can pick up one tool and put down another, cant you?
Might it be true at least in some part?
http://www.counterpunch.org/2015/10/12/us-caught-faking-it-in-syria/
http://www.mintpressnews.com/isis-israel-iraq-and-syria-its-all-part-of-...
Are you not impressed at how trivial it is to stampede the muttonheads, but how supremely difficult it is to get us to think critically?
" the evidence is substantial."
You should post some, it might help your claims. From what I can gather from the links, they are just interpretations of a long gone history, that's not evidence mate, that's just wind.
I still remember the moment not so long ago - because it seemed so very bizarre - when I caught a talking head on the tube as he was uncomfortably trying to explain that there was this brand new entity known as ISIS (wtf?) that had seemingly materialized out of thin air and which had somehow instantly become a major player in MENA. I thought, who the fuck feeds this shit to the talking heads.
I hate the talking heads more than the hand that feeds them.
November 13, 2015 - Andrea Mitchell – Journalist – Wife of Alan Greenspan
Dateline NBC appearance, discussing the weapons used in Paris attack.
Paraphrasing:
“the only people with guns in France are the “Criminal Element”; due to guns laws”.
I about fell on the floor…she admitted on National TV that “Gun Control” results in the “Criminal Element” being the only people with guns!
Finally, the press gets it right! I wonder if she’ll be reprimanded?
@Raymon' "Isis is a us/saudi/israeli proxy - the evidence is substantial."
Add to the Preponderance of Evidence...
Exhibit A -- The Date: 11/13/15. This has the hallmarks of a cabalist/occultist planning, not Jihadi planning. Cabalists love this Numerology shit. Also, "Friday the 13th" has a French origin, when King Philip IV of France, had all the Knigths Templar rounded up in a pre-dawn raid and then executed. Well, almost all of them. The ones who escaped, eventually led to the building of what it now Swizterland.
Exhibit B -- The Indestructible Passport Syndrome strikes again, when a undamaged Syrian passport was found -- allegedly belonging to someone who knew he was going to die. Fascinating. If he really wanted to stir the pot, you'd think that he would have used a US or Israeli passport?
Exhibit C -- French/NATO reaction: If the 9/11 attacks by boxcutter-wielding terrorists from KSA (with indestructible passports) resulted in attacking Afghanistan and Iraq, rather than KSA, then should we expect the French/US to attack Afghanistan and Iraq also? Or shall we expect more Syrian civil infrastucture to be destroyed? Time will tell.
Russia and Syria had better get their act (air defenses) working, cause you know Who's Coming to Dinner.
Long MIC.
yeah, they're happy as hell
War; it's all about the Prophets...er, profits, whatever.
Totally un-PC below. Do not read if you are sensitive liberal who wants to remove all vestiges of modern civilisation so that you can do whatever you want.
If you can't tell the common folks from the terrorists and this is going to be the outcome, then the only definite solution to remain secure is to export all those whose have some characteristics in common with the terrorists, including not being born in the country.
Otherwise, what can you do but wait for the next unexpected surprise? - which will always come in spite of even the most extreme martial law (French Resistance in the war, anyone?) and rights suppresion. You can watch a barn the horses have already left, but there are many other barns' doors to blow open. Surprise!
everyone already knew there were Muslim extremists. That alone is not the wake-up call. I work with Muslims, I hire Muslims, I've been in their homes where I am not allowed to see or speak to their wives. I have had very personal conversations with many of them, and I do try to treat them as my brother. But after 20 years of constant close contact...I realize this.
they are not weaping today over the crimes of their Muslim brothers in Paris. They do not weap over Christians being beheaded. It's actually....and I'm sorry to say this, but it is the opposite. They are happy when infidels die...yes, even the guys you work with on a daily basis. You will never see it, or hear it...because you aren't a Muslim. THIS is the enemy within us...not those 8 nutjobs in Paris. They teach their kids to hate, and if you don't understand human nature, hate is more contagious than love.
Societies cannot coexists when one side is teaching their kids to love and tollerate, when the other side is teaching their kids to hate. It's not what you believe that is dangerous, it's what you believe about those who do not believe as you do....that will destroy.
100%
20 years is a long time though...
Why hire these people? Why try to be their friend? It was just like the celebrating in Patterson NJ following 9/11. Those ragheads were happy. And they live over here, work amongst us. Fuck this diversity/mutlicultural garbage. Know who the enemy is, isolate him, make him feel uncomfortable. B/c that is exactly what the sandniggers are doing to us.