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Ron Paul On What Should Be Done About Paris

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Submitted by Ron Paul via The Ron Paul Institute for Peace & Prosperity,

The horrific attacks in Paris on Friday have, predictably, led to much over-reaction and demands that we do more of the exact things that radicalize people and make them want to attack us. The French military wasted no time bombing Syria in retaliation for the attacks, though it is not known where exactly the attackers were from. Thousands of ISIS fighters in Syria are not Syrian, but came to Syria to overthrow the Assad government from a number of foreign countries -- including from France and the US. 

Ironically, the overthrow of Assad has also been the goal of both the US and France since at least 2011.

Because the US and its allies are essentially on the same side as ISIS and other groups – seeking the overthrow of Assad – many of the weapons they have sent to the more “moderate” factions also seeking Assad’s ouster have ended up in the hands of radicals. Moderate groups have joined more radical factions over and over, taking their US-provided training and weapons with them. Other moderate groups have been captured or killed, their US-provided weapons also going to the radicals. Thus the more radical factions have become better equipped and better trained, while occasionally being attacked by US or allied planes. 

Does anyone not believe this is a recipe for the kind of disaster we have now seen in Paris? The French in particular have been very active in arming even the more radical groups in Syria, as they push for more political influence in the region. Why do they still refuse to believe in the concept of blowback? Is it because the explanation that, “they hate us because we are free,” makes it easier to escalate abroad and crack down at home?

It may not be popular to say this as emotions run high and calls ring out for more bombing in the Middle East, but there is another way to address the problem. There is an alternative to using more military intervention to address a problem that was caused by military intervention in the first place. 

That solution is to reject the militarists and isolationists. It is to finally reject the policy of using “regime change” to further perceived US and western foreign policy goals, whether in Iraq, Libya, Syria, or elsewhere. It is to reject the foolish idea that we can ship hundreds of millions of dollars worth of weapons to “moderates” in the Middle East and expect none of them to fall into the hands of radicals. 

More bombs will not solve the problems in the Middle East. But a more promising approach to the Middle East is currently under fire from the isolationists in Washington. The nuclear deal with Iran ends UN sanctions and opens that country to international trade. Just last week the presidents of France and Iran met to discuss a number of trade deals. Other countries have followed. Trade and respect for national sovereignty trumps violence, but Washington still doesn’t seem to get it. Most presidential candidates compete to thump the table loudest against any deal with Iran. They will use this attack to propagandize against approving trade with Iran even though Iran has condemned the attack and is also in the crosshairs of ISIS.

Here is the alternative: Focus on trade and friendly relations, stop shipping weapons, abandon “regime change” and other manipulations, respect national sovereignty, and maintain a strong defense at home including protecting the borders from those who may seek to do us harm.

We should abandon the failed policies of the past, before it’s too late.

 

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Mon, 11/16/2015 - 13:43 | 6800429 MadVladtheconquerer
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What can be done about Paris?  What should have been done 36 yrs ago:  turn the entire region into glass.

If it moves, kill it.

If it moans, kill it again.

If its embedded, kill it first.

Mon, 11/16/2015 - 13:46 | 6800440 cougar_w
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Be careful what you wish for; that is where the oil is.

Mon, 11/16/2015 - 13:53 | 6800470 MadVladtheconquerer
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Except......low altitude burst(s) will limit fallout.  Subsequently, EXXON, CHEVRON, TOTAL and whomever else will issue

NBC equipment to their employees and it will be business as usual.  Might even use robots in some tasks.

Or, maybe its the poster child for re-commissioning of these:  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neutron_bomb

Mon, 11/16/2015 - 16:31 | 6801297 rejected
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Let's hope karma is for real,,,

Mon, 11/16/2015 - 14:28 | 6800659 silentboom
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Yea, shock and awe right?

Mon, 11/16/2015 - 13:45 | 6800436 cougar_w
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Too easy an answer, Ron. This is global politics played out over thousands of years, surely you understand it has to be bloody and messy to even be taken seriously by historians.

/s

Mon, 11/16/2015 - 13:46 | 6800439 Puncher75
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The main reason I would not, and could not vote for Ron Paul

Mon, 11/16/2015 - 14:02 | 6800522 MadVladtheconquerer
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Yaaa, his philosophy of "let them do it to you (several times) before you do it to them if ever"

is a bit much to ask of a bunch of gun-toters!

Ron Paul is a hack.  He aligned himself w/ Porter Stansbury to call for the end of civilization

as we know it.  Like the stopped clock, he'll eventually get something resembling what he had

been calling but only after calling 20 of the last 1 disasters.  The "what" is nothing.  The timing is everything.

Mon, 11/16/2015 - 14:00 | 6800476 honestann
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The predators-that-be want blowback.  That gives them bogus but effective justification for enslaving everyone in their own fictitious nations "to protect them".

It also gives them bogus but effective justification for invading and destroying fictitious sovereign nations, stealing their physical gold to manipulate PM markets, replace "leaders" with puppets, steal resources and generally abuse everyone.

Due to endless manipulation and corruption by the predators-that-be, western nations have completely morphed over the past 50 years from production to manipulation.  They're now completely worthless and destructive.  What a waste.

Many non-western nations have increasingly copied their lead, and now aren't much better.  The few that have mostly ignored the western lead are best off... which isn't saying much given the damage done to the world economy by the [mostly] western predators-that-be.

Mon, 11/16/2015 - 16:37 | 6801338 Armed Resistance
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Ann, don't tell my wife but I think I love you!  You had me at- "the predators-that-be-want-blowback".  

 

 

Mon, 11/16/2015 - 14:00 | 6800508 SamEyeAm
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So Paul is a pacifist. No surprise there.

He should stick to economics.

Mon, 11/16/2015 - 14:03 | 6800529 MadVladtheconquerer
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If I look up 'pacifist' in the dictionary, will I see a pic of a vagina?

Mon, 11/16/2015 - 14:45 | 6800749 Berspankme
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no but if you look up dirty brown cock, a picture of Obama pops up

Mon, 11/16/2015 - 14:01 | 6800515 rwe2late
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per Ron Paul:

We should abandon the failed policies of the past, before it’s too late.

Are we already too late to avoid a new and very dark age?

 

The Real Situation?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Lz6HPz9FCk

 

Mon, 11/16/2015 - 14:03 | 6800528 WTFUD
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If there was an attack on the Syrian Embassy in Paris or London and Assad responded by bombing the 'suspected' Terrorists in these Jurisdictions without permission from Holl&Cams would this be considered a declaration of war by those two bastards?

Mon, 11/16/2015 - 14:11 | 6800542 Okienomics
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I got into a pissing match with a local radio talk show jackass who made his program all about "Rand Paul is a weenie" the day after the attacks.  Seriously, that was his focus, how Rand Paul is "dangerous to our freedom and way of life."  So I called in.....  my comments were something to the effect of...

Dude, we have about HALF the world's total military expenditure.  The so-called war on terror has cost TRILLIONS of dollars and massive loss of life, it's lasted longer than freaking World War II and things are WORSE.  How can any rational person believe that what we really need, to solve this problem, is MORE of WHAT HAS FAILED SO MISERABLY?  There's no way in hell we should be sending more troops into that hell-hole hornet's nest, it won't help.  The only solutions are to drop a whole bunch of nukes on the region to kill every last person, or cordon it off, isololate that part of the world and protect our own borders.

His response, "Is your last name Ostrich?"

Wow.

 

Mon, 11/16/2015 - 14:22 | 6800624 MadVladtheconquerer
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But, but, but.... I thought Putin was the solution!!!!!!!

 

 

Mon, 11/16/2015 - 14:09 | 6800548 venturen
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yep...USA responsible for 800 years of muslims violence. Got it! So how does Ron judge when things like WWI or WWII occur and the world starts burning what do....dig hole and place self in hole?

Mon, 11/16/2015 - 14:27 | 6800645 MadVladtheconquerer
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More like use the conveniently provided asshole:  bury head up said ass!

No digging required.  I think Paul has his head buried so far up his asshole that he can actually

see daylight.

BTW, 800 yrs of Muslim violence is Bush's fault.

Mon, 11/16/2015 - 15:00 | 6800825 Bay of Pigs
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There sure are a lot more trolls showing up here now.

Mon, 11/16/2015 - 18:08 | 6801759 The Wedge
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Troll equals someone with a different opinion than the intelligentsia here at the hedge.

Mon, 11/16/2015 - 14:10 | 6800559 Consuelo
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"He is deeply disturbed, however, confessing that he enjoyed executing Gasim, but Allenby brushes aside his qualms. He asks Allenby whether there is any basis for the Arabs' suspicions that the British have designs on Arabia. Pressed, the general states they do not."

 

- Excerpt taken from the script of Lawrence of Arabia.

 

Not to reduce the current issues down to a movie script, but...   What is going on today with the terrifying-terrorists sprouted a long time ago.

 


Mon, 11/16/2015 - 14:29 | 6800667 MadVladtheconquerer
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Lawrence.  Lawrence of Arabia.

He's an English guy who came to fight the Turks."

(Robert Wuhl's character in "The Hollywood Knights")

Mon, 11/16/2015 - 14:20 | 6800616 Who was that ma...
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Paul is right again of course but unfortunately, idiocy will continue to prevail for the benefit of a few and to the detriment of most of us.

Mon, 11/16/2015 - 14:24 | 6800630 Himins
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Only a Muslim bomber would carry a passport. We learned that in 2001. No one else in the World Trade Center, or New York City, or all of Paris would need a passport.

Mon, 11/16/2015 - 14:36 | 6800697 coast
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Ron Paul and Paul Craig Roberts 2016....the bumper stickers could read "Paul/Paul 2016"  :-)   Rand could be secretary of state...So the bumper stickers could read "Paul/Paul/Paul 2016"...Alex Jones could be the DC spokesman lol.....David Icke in charge of education, Trump in charge of immigration, pink floyd to write our national anthem song, timothy o'leary clone to be in charge of the DEA, Mike Adams the Health Ranger in charge of FDA, and "coast" as supreme court judge that puts all the politicians and bankers in jail...ok then, fixed it for ya.

Mon, 11/16/2015 - 14:45 | 6800750 Alananda
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Ron Paul and Paul Craig Roberts and the lesser Paul (Rand), not even a distant relation to Ayn Rand, have one great thing in common:  Limited hang-out, utilitarian for PsTB until TPTB do away with the internet, the "Guttenberg press" of our times (cf. Preston James, Ph.D., veteranstoday.com).  The Hegelian dialectic has proven the hammer that pounds just about everything to the ground, even if not a nail.  Wake up. 

Mon, 11/16/2015 - 14:45 | 6800751 GRDguy
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If what is happening in Paris and the Midde East wasn't in the interest of the REAL TPTB, it wouldn't be happening. Nothing happens if not financed first. Nothing.

Mon, 11/16/2015 - 14:45 | 6800753 PoasterToaster
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The United States Government is the enemy of America.

Mon, 11/16/2015 - 15:15 | 6800896 man of Wool
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How do you think the rest of the world thinks. In fact the next president of the USA should be voted for by the whole world apart from America, because the President has more power outside the USA than inside the USA.

Mon, 11/16/2015 - 14:46 | 6800756 unklemunky
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Ron paul needs to keep talking about the fed and shut the hell up about everything else. These cretins know only one thing; hate the western civilization. You either stand in their front yard and bloody their nose every time they come outside or they will be standing in our front yard. The anti war whiners need to give it up. If we keep hammering these assholes on their turf they dont have time to come to ours. Ofaggot wants them to come here. I think he just wants the first gorilla to start wearing her burka again.

Mon, 11/16/2015 - 14:52 | 6800786 Heavenlysunshine
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We should have let the so-called semites solve their own problems in the Unholylands.

Mon, 11/16/2015 - 17:41 | 6801648 Wahooo
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But we're a Judeo-Christian nation.

/sarc

Mon, 11/16/2015 - 14:58 | 6800813 The Gladiator
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 You bunch of sickass rednecks sound just like the sick ass rednecks screaming "USA USA USA" when 911 occured. Lets go bomb them dam camel jockeys! Lets turn that sand into glass,nuke the bastards! Only a fool coundn't see what is really going on,and it has nothing to do with the goddam desert warriors called ISIS.

  Here is the scenario in a small back room in D.C.: OK,guys.Here is what we do to get regime change now that Russi has decided to call our bluff. We need a small,militarily inept country to volunteer. Hollande,you have your hand up. "we could have a false flag operation in my lovely city of Paris". EXCELLENT IDEA!. Then,because you cannot take on mighty ISIS alone,we will invoke article 5,and invole all of NATO. Remember,Hollande.You HAVE to be at the football game so it will be an attempted assassination attempt. With the whole world mourning for the 150 or so lives lost,we can bomb the shit out of Syria,and the whole world will cheer! Just like we did in Iraq after 911. There is no way Russia can cause us an problems with the whole word behind us! Whew.It was close. There for a while I was thinking The New Israel Project would never be realized.Mr. Yahoo,you have your hand up,what is it your majesty? " I just want to emphasize,that Israel wants peace,er,I mean piece. As in a big piece od the middle east to become Israel." (room explodes in laughter)

 So ther you have it,boys. Sign your kids or grand kids up for the all mighter US military. Send them off to fight again in the desert land. After all,you don't really expect the IDF to send IT'S boys do you?

Mon, 11/16/2015 - 16:23 | 6801250 rejected
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Really can't argue with you. Plausible. And your right about everyone screaming nuke em, back around 911. Heard it myself from a couple of country boy's. If memory serves,,, Even Ron Paul voted to go to Afghanistan.

Mon, 11/16/2015 - 17:02 | 6801474 Plata con Carne
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Only under Letters of Marque & Reprisal, not full-on war in the country.

10/10/2001--Introduced.
September 11 Marque and Reprisal Act of 2001 - Authorizes and requests the President to issue letters of marque and reprisal to commission privately armed and equipped persons and entities to seize outside of the United States the person and property of Osama bin Laden, of any al Qaeda co-conspirator, and any conspirator with Osama bin Laden and al Qaeda who are responsible for the terrorist attacks against the United States on September 11, 2001, including any similar planned acts against the United States in the future. Authorizes the President to place a bounty, from amounts appropriated on September 14, 2001, in the Emergency Supplemental Appropriations Act for Recovery from and Response to Terrorists Attacks on the United States or from private sources, for the capture, dead or alive, of Osama bin Laden or any other al Qaeda conspirator responsible for the act of air piracy upon the United States on September 11, 2001.

Mon, 11/16/2015 - 19:21 | 6802103 The Gladiator
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We got two rednecks on here down voting me. LMAO

Mon, 11/16/2015 - 14:58 | 6800816 Flying Wombat
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Meet Zbigniew Brzezinski: The “Intellectual” Godfather Of Furthering The Development Of Terrorism Used As A Tool

http://thenewsdoctors.com/?p=542014

Mon, 11/16/2015 - 15:20 | 6800916 MASTER OF UNIVERSE
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I neutralized Zbig's rhetoric, and that of the Council On Foreign Relations, March 10th 2008. Zbig ain't an intellectual, and has no track record of ever being one when one examines the evidence historically.

Mon, 11/16/2015 - 17:03 | 6801481 Anunnaki
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Petraues was the one who called for creating what metastasized into ISIS

Mon, 11/16/2015 - 15:10 | 6800843 MASTER OF UNIVERSE
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Xenophobia ROCKS!

Mon, 11/16/2015 - 18:00 | 6801719 Blue Horshoe Lo...
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I've never heard of that band. Did you just see them live?

lol.

Mon, 11/16/2015 - 15:19 | 6800914 Freewheelin Franklin
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More bombs in the Middle East isn't going to solve the problem of terrorism any more than more money is going to solve the problem of poverty.

Mon, 11/16/2015 - 17:39 | 6801639 Wahooo
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Less is the answer to many problems.

Tue, 11/17/2015 - 11:11 | 6804386 Victor von Doom
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Depends which country you drop them on.

Mon, 11/16/2015 - 15:34 | 6800965 Clesthenes
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“Whom is Jesus referring to when he repeatedly references The Father, if not the God of Abraham?”

So says, “hedgeless_horseman”.

According to my Revised Standard Version (RSV, 1946; by some forty biblical scholars from around the world), there is a footnote early in the Old Testament that asserts the OT LORD is not the same as the NT Lord; note the upper and lower cases.

Upon a study of both law books (OT and NT), I came to the conclusion that the two are quite distinct: the former is a law book for slave masters (or world conquerors this, the prime directive of their religion) and the latter is a law book for slaves.  Read, for example, Numbers, chapters 25 and 31.

 

Mon, 11/16/2015 - 15:37 | 6801011 Mick Shrimpton
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Sorry, but I can't agree with someone who thinks the Iran deal was a good one.  Ron completely ignores the nuclear weapons proliferation issue.  Iran gets nukes, then Saudi Arabia, Turkey, Egypt, etc., etc., etc.  We don't need another North Korea or Pakistan.

Besides, he doesn't come out and address the most important issue regarding the attacks in Paris.  Muslims and non-Muslims cannot live together in peace.  Deportation is the only solution.

Mon, 11/16/2015 - 16:16 | 6801222 rejected
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Who sold and built the nuke plant in N. Korea that is used for their weapons (assuming they really have them).

 

http://www.swissinfo.ch/eng/rumsfeld-was-on-abb-board-during-deal-with-n...

Mon, 11/16/2015 - 17:48 | 6801669 Blue Horshoe Lo...
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Former Sec. of Defense Donald Rumsfeld has responded personally to your statement:

"Reports that say that something hasn't happened are always interesting to me, because as we know, there are known knowns; there are things we know we know. We also know there are known unknowns; that is to say we know there are some things we do not know. But there are also unknown unknowns – the ones we don't know we don't know. And if one looks throughout the history of our country and other free countries, it is the latter category that tend to be the difficult ones."

Mon, 11/16/2015 - 17:35 | 6801620 WTFUD
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MS very appropriate Mickey. What the F do you know about the IRAN Deal? Yes, and before you ask , i wrote it.

Lloyd Blankfein

Mon, 11/16/2015 - 16:01 | 6801132 truthalwayswinsout
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If Ron Paul were really a leader and someone who got things done then let him start a depository bank so all us little people can take our money away from the Federal Reserve and bankrupt the system. 

Oh.....the blow hard has yet to do anything.....except raise money.......for more elections.

Gee, I keep hoping someday that terrorist will get it right.

 

Mon, 11/16/2015 - 16:05 | 6801158 smithmorra
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We need to understand the terrorists and criminals; convene committees and peace conferances offering humanitarian and benevolent aid to all of these people, welcoming their refugees and homeless!  Their imams and other holy men should be featured on our TV programs and serve along side our priests, Rabbis and other ministers!  Let's crawl out of the stone ages of violence bombs and guns!

Mon, 11/16/2015 - 21:30 | 6802532 logicalman
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Given religions  are pretty much stone-age creations, I don't really see how religions 'getting along' will help get away from stone-age thinking.

I would have to agree, though, that cooperation has to be more constructive than conflict.

 

Mon, 11/16/2015 - 16:21 | 6801240 Grandad Grumps
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If it was really blowback, it would be aimed at those responsible for the Middle East murderous massacres: Bank executives, oil company executives and government officials. The military is just a tool of the elitists. If we saw the so called radical Muslims popping off elitists, then we would know it is real. If they are trying to terrorize the public, then it is fake and probably a false flag designed by the local government to make people fearful and angry and willing to commit more war crimes.

Mon, 11/16/2015 - 17:01 | 6801468 Anunnaki
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Obviously the purpose of all this gov't spying on its citizens has absolutely nothing to do with keeping those same citizens safe

Mon, 11/16/2015 - 17:02 | 6801473 Anunnaki
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What does bombing Raqqa do that Russia hasn't already accomplished. If France wants to deal with its ISIS problem they should bomb Riyadh

Mon, 11/16/2015 - 18:00 | 6801722 arby63
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We're making it far too complicated. Cultures don't mix well. Stop taking immigrants from cultures that have no desire to assimilate in any way, shape or form. 

Only FOOL politicians think an egalitarian approach to immigration wins because you have a big heart and compassion. You can have compassion and still refuse blind immigration.

France's problem is soon Germany's. No way to avoid the obvious. It is preordained. 

Mon, 11/16/2015 - 17:18 | 6801556 Mr. Cynic
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Mr. Paul makes entirely too much sense.  He needs to be shouted down, ridiculed, ostracized and alienated.......oh, wait "they" already do that.

Mon, 11/16/2015 - 17:39 | 6801638 Blue Horshoe Lo...
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LOL!

Mon, 11/16/2015 - 17:29 | 6801601 TRM
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More bombs won't solve this? I'd like to test that theory on the House of Saud. Blow up a few hundred or even thousand members of the House of Saud who have been financing the fundamentalist filth Salafists for 7 decades.

I'm willing to bet nobody would fund the FF once the Saudi royal family got bombed.

Not saying Ron is wrong but I'm willing to try my angle. Maybe we've just been bombing the wrong people?

Mon, 11/16/2015 - 17:35 | 6801621 smithmorra
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Can't we just nuke the sand ni***** and be done with all those crazies??  

Mon, 11/16/2015 - 17:37 | 6801627 Consuelo
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Bless his heart - gotta love that dead-pan look on 'ole RP.

Mon, 11/16/2015 - 17:37 | 6801632 Blue Horshoe Lo...
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The USA & Europe can't do this.  This might lead to peace! 

That would harm the profits of the military industrial fraud complex & shift people's focus to the bankers that fund this scam.

The way to stop terrorists is to do more of the same things that create them!

Mon, 11/16/2015 - 17:42 | 6801650 Blue Horshoe Lo...
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Breaking News! Through the use of its global spying network, the NSA just uncovered multiple terrorist plots to target France...

Oh, wait. Too late. 

Never mind.

Mon, 11/16/2015 - 17:56 | 6801696 Gonzogal
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Last month, there was a meeting in Vienna where 19 interest groups met on the Syria issue. And after two days, the world saw the Russian plane disaster that killed 224 Russian citizens in Egypt. Later, many intelligence agencies claimed that the plane was downed by the bomb. So, apparently, the Vienna settlement did not work. If there were a settlement, then nobody had planted a bomb in an airplane. As Putin spoke about the double play of the west, here you can see how the west double played by settling a issue on the table and unleashed a destruction undercover. By downing the plane, the west conveys a message to the Russia that, the future of Middle East can only be decided by the west where Russia must restrain from their effort.
The Us president said, “this is an attack on all of humanity and the universal values we share, and We stand prepared and ready to provide whatever assistance the people of France need to respond.” The French president said, it is an act of war by Islamic state and he pledges to take counteractions. Israel’s prime minister Netanyahu said, ” Israel stands shoulder to shoulder with French President Francois Hollande and with the people of France in our common battle against terrorism”. British Prime minister David Cameron said, “We are with you.”
So, one can easily predict from the above statements that the west will come up with an idea to fight hard the so called Islamic terrorism by waging an all out war in Iraq, Syria and other parts of the Middle East under the NATO umbrella. And this time, the West will again wage this bypassing the UNSC approval. So, the Paris massacre gave the West a moral justification and assertion of a global consent to fight hard in Iraq and Syria. The next NATO campaign will be something similar to ‘the Shock and Awe’ campaign that we had witnessed during the American military invasion of Afghanistan.
As geopolitics has no room for emotions and moral values, these Western designs of ‘Chaos and Occupy’ will not harm the elites or the Atlanticists but it is creating existential crisis for the general population for certain countries who contains other cultural and religious values.
The forthcoming war on terror by the NATO force will change the present geopolitical shapes of the Middle East. The war will have an intent to show more military power than the Russians to reestablish the firm military control on specific important locations so that the regional powers of the Middle East accept the Western military supremacy. The coming NATO ‘War on Terror’ ( Middle East ) will also try to contain Iran by all means so that the West can establish their own puppet who will sell all national assets to the west without the peoples consent. On the other hand, the journey of the BRICS and other alternative economic and political blocs

Mon, 11/16/2015 - 17:58 | 6801702 danster82
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Listening to some commentry on the radio today some guy ranting on about "all they understand is force and power, they are brutes! Therefore we need to respond with force and power and bomb them".

So this guy and many others cant see that all he understands is the same thing, because hes basicly in the same low state of consiouness.

People do not want to hear it but the best thing to do is to turn the other cheek again and again and again.

Mon, 11/16/2015 - 18:07 | 6801713 Dickweed Wang
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The Satanic bastards that currently control the world are going to stop at nothing until they get Christians (i.e. the "west") and Muslims involved in total warfare - ultimately ending in WWIII.  Regardless of whether you believe the validity of it or not, the letters written by Albert Pike to his colleague Mazzini  in the 1870's pretty much lay out the plan of the Illuminist's regarding WWI, WWII and WWIII.  Where for WWIII the letter describes the Illuminist's plans as follows:

"The Third World War must be fomented by taking advantage of the differences caused by the “agentur” of the “Illuminati” between the political Zionists and the leaders of Islamic World. The war must be conducted in such a way that Islam (the Moslem Arabic World) and political Zionism (the State of Israel [and its Western protectors - i.e. the USA, France, the UK and Germany]) mutually destroy each other. Meanwhile the other nations, once more divided on this issue will be constrained to fight to the point of complete physical, moral, spiritual and economical exhaustionWe shall unleash the Nihilists and the atheists, and we shall provoke a formidable social cataclysm which in all its horror will show clearly to the nations the effect of absolute atheism, origin of savagery and of the most bloody turmoil. Then everywhere, the citizens, obliged to defend themselves against the world minority of revolutionaries, will exterminate those destroyers of civilization, and the multitude, disillusioned with Christianity, whose deistic spirits will from that moment be without compass or direction, anxious for an ideal, but without knowing where to render its adoration, will receive the true light through the universal manifestation of the pure doctrine of Lucifer, brought finally out in the public view. This manifestation will result from the general reactionary movement which will follow the destruction of Christianity and atheism, both conquered and exterminated at the same time.”

Let's say the letter is a fabrication and was written only 50 years ago or so.  Even then the plans outlined in the above text has come pretty damn close to reality.  Again, these bastards are going to stop at nothing until they are the ones sitting on top of the shit heap left of the planet after their machinations are complete.

The best thing the people of the world could do at this point is to forget about their religious differences and turn on the "masters of the universe" en mas.  Knowing how dumbed down and prone to propaganda the population of the west is though doesn't give me much hope that will ever happen.

Mon, 11/16/2015 - 18:16 | 6801792 o r c k
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Wow, what garbage. "Conquer atheism?"  "The effect of absolute atheism?  "unleash the nihilists and the atheists?" Regardless of when it was written it is nothing but the obsessive rantings of religious whackos. The ones that give dates for the apocalypse and form cults. The fact that you can spew this garbage of the mind and not be grossly embarrassed puts you square in the class of a cult member. Please wake up.

Mon, 11/16/2015 - 18:31 | 6801875 Dickweed Wang
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Hey pal.  Whether you want to believe it or not doesn't mean a rat's ass.  The fact of the matter is that religious issues account for more war and bloodshed than any other issue in the history of the world. Just look at the Middle East right now for proof of that.

"Wake up"??  Maybe you're the one that needs to wear that shoe.  You may not agree with, or believe in, "the obsessive rantings of religious whackos" but that doesn't mean it's not a reality. 

Oh by the way, thanks for the constructive criticism ;-)

Mon, 11/16/2015 - 23:28 | 6802950 risk.averse
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Dickweed said:--

The fact of the matter is that religious issues account for more war and bloodshed than any other issue in the history of the world.

this claim that "religion" is the cause of so much war is a red herring and false. Religion is often the EXCUSE for conflict. War has usually been about LAND and who controls it. ISIS no doubt draws its inspiration from the most famous of the ancient caliphates, the Umayyad. The Umayyad conquest of North Africa by Islamic forces in the 7th century following the death of Mohammad surely did spread Islam but it also captured land -- all the way from Pakistan, across the MEast, North Africa, and most of present-day Spain. Yes, Islam was the religion of the conquering armies but that acted more as a "glue" and an inspiring force than as a cause for their military actions.

When I was kid, our media bombarded us with images of the Protestant versus Catholic conflict in Northern Ireland. This , of course, led to the common-sense response of many: "both sides worship the same god...how ridiculous and absurd...why can't they all get along". But the conflict wasn't about religion. It was about whose "tribe" controlled Northern Ireland: the "native" Catholic Irish (whose forebears went back many millenia, and who had been conquered by Cromwell's English invaders back in the 17th century) and the Protestant Irish (whose forebears were transplanted by the conquering English from England and Scotland).

Mon, 11/16/2015 - 18:00 | 6801723 dexter_morgan
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Amen, Quit sending our youth to the ME to die and be crippled for the ZWO. Why is that so hard to understand?

Mon, 11/16/2015 - 18:08 | 6801758 moonmac
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These goat f*cking cave men have absolutely no concept of freedom or liberty and they never will! We should turn all their countries into parking lots! It would do the human race a great service! KILL THEM ALL!!!

Mon, 11/16/2015 - 21:35 | 6802553 logicalman
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Problem is, similar brain-deads to you are saying the same thing on the other side of the deal.

Why don't you brain-deads all kill each other off and let the rest of us get on with a decent life.

 

Mon, 11/16/2015 - 18:15 | 6801786 The Wedge
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The idea that life, human life or any life for that matter, on this planet is precious is laughable. Senseless death in this world is meaningless.

Mon, 11/16/2015 - 18:19 | 6801810 Surveyor4Pres
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The Barbary Pirates existed long before there was a United States.  And Islam long before that.

Know this:

The religion of Islam, itself, is to blame for some of the World's problems.  However, there is a bigger play here:  Namely, the globalists who are using the global jihad to further their agendae.

In other words, the Fabian Socialists and NWO pushers are using the Muslims as their muscle to get the job done (World-wide fascism).  Of course, those being used and those being played want their World Caliphate as well, so those controlling them had better watch out, too.

Down-vote me all you want, but this is the truth of it.

Mon, 11/16/2015 - 18:38 | 6801892 inosent
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Suleyman the Magnificent tells the tale, inasmuch as he viewed himself as the Sultan of the whole world, and tirelessly made incursions westward into the land of infidels, to capture the land for Allah and the 'great prophet' (the guy who saw visions in a cave and shows up with a book to kill people).

I don't know if that sort of thing is still in play, but there is a precedent in history for it.

I just wish if these crazy assed 'fidels' were so determined to rid the world of infidels maybe they could focus on the infidels in their own backyard :) After all, surely they would know that American and European aggression vs the ME is totally underwritten and pushed by jews. Yet, when was the last time we hear of a 'terrorist' attack, on par with a 9/11 or the latest Paris fiasco happening in israel? Never, right?

Although there is no mainstream islamic repudiation of islamic associatioin with all the bad things islamic ppl are accused of, saying, in so many words, "this does not represent the good islamic people of the world", which all by itself is not complimentary of the islamic crowd, still, it is a curious thing that israel never gets touched. That leads me to consider favorably the idea that all these so-called 'islamic radicals' are just low-life mercenaries on the Mossad payroll, or maybe a lot of jews posing as islams, with explicit instructions to do this that and the other thing, but dont touch israel.

Mon, 11/16/2015 - 18:24 | 6801838 Beowulf55
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Love ya Ron, but it is to late..........

Time to break out the popcorn and high powerd rifle.

Mon, 11/16/2015 - 18:43 | 6801917 JamaicaJim
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Send that whack job Charlie Sheen over there to fuck everything....men, women, goats, camels...yaks....mullahs...water holes

 

Another day at the office for this winners fucked up prick...infect the whole ME with Sheen-V

Mon, 11/16/2015 - 19:29 | 6802131 skippy9
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Senator Paul, You may be too young to remember if we stopped Hitler when he started rounding up Jews and Gypsies the cost of human carnage of WWII would have been minimized. If we don't kill ISIS and all its family members we are creating a much larger burden going forward. Freedom isn't free.

Mon, 11/16/2015 - 21:39 | 6802572 logicalman
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Blue pill, one assumes!

Mon, 11/16/2015 - 22:33 | 6802757 Faeriedust
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The place we need to be sponsoring "regime change" is Saudi Arabia.  And we could do that by simply sanctioning the purchase of oil and gas from SA, Kuwait, and Qatar.  Because we know very well where the leadership of ISIS comes from, and so does the Saudi Royal Family, who have basically given their blessing to their country's worst rabble to go out and colonize "out there somewhere" in the rest of the region.

Frack.  Drill the North Sea and Alaska and the Arctic.  Buy from Iran, which however fork-tongued remains a CIVILIZED nation, not a small sophisticated elite maintaining power by babbling religious fanaticism at some of the most ignorant peasants in the world. To stop ISIS, you have to realize that they are the PEOPLE of Saudi Arabia.  This is what a century of supporting a traditional "oriental" (Middle-Eastern) tyrant has brought both us and them.

 

 

Tue, 11/17/2015 - 02:51 | 6803387 cookies anyone
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it is too late, brake out the marshmelows, the nukes are coming

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