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"France Is At War": Hollande Unleashes 2nd Day Of ISIS Strikes, Mobilizes 115,000, Moves To Change Constitution

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France, still reeling from the carnage that unfolded in the streets of Paris last Friday, conducted dozens upon dozens of police raids on Tuesday, after more than 160 similar operations carried out on Monday led to the discovery of numerous weapons including a rocket launcher, Kalashnikov, and a bulletproof vest. 

French authorities are still largely in the dark regarding how many people were ultimately involved in the attack and with suspected “mastermind” Abdelhamid Abaaoud out of reach in Syria, police are focused on locating Salah Abdeslam who allegedly helped with logistics and rented a black Volkswagen Polo used by the gunmen who stormed the Bataclan concert hall. 

Of course really, the raids are a frantic attempt to track down and neutralize anything and everything before something else bad happens. As Prime Minister Manuel Valls said on France Inter radio, "we don't know if there are accomplices in Belgium and in France... we still don't know the number of people involved in the attacks.”

Interior Minister Bernard Cazeneuve says more than 100 people have been placed under house arrest and dozens have been arrested in the sweeping crackdown. "Under a state of emergency – which has been in place since the attacks on Friday – security services, police have extra powers and freedom to make arrests, search houses and confiscate weapons without judicial oversight," The Sydney Morning Herald notes.

President Hollande told a joint session of the French parliament on Monday that "France is at war" and that he wants the state of emergency extended by three months. Hollande also proposed constitutional changes. As The Herald put it on Tuesday, Hollande wants “to create a new version of ‘exceptional measures’, giving the government some emergency powers available under martial law.” Here’s Le Monde (translated), noting that Hollande’s proposals mirror George Bush’s Patriot Act:

But that wants Francois Hollande, is "to provide an appropriate tool for founding taking exceptional measures, for a certain period without going through the state of siege nor deny civil liberties". Clearly, this would be a somewhat state of emergency "light" in terms of the powers granted to the State, but may last longer. A proposal which is not without recalling the "Patriot  Act" that the Bush administration had vote after September 11, 2001.

Here's the bullet point summary from BBC:

  • Extension of state of emergency by three months
  • Changes to the constitution to allow the government to revoke citizenship of any convicted terrorists of dual nationality. Currently only those born outside France and naturalised can lose their citizenship
  • Measures to speed up expulsion of foreign nationals considered a threat to public order
  • Budget increases and extra recruitment to security forces and judiciary

If some of that sounds like it could be a slippery slope to you, you're probably correct. "Those returning from Syria could be placed under house arrest," AFP reported, citing a government source.

Cazeneuve also said 115,000 security personnel have been mobilized in order to "ensure Frances security." The police officers, gendarmes and soldiers are being deployed across France. Hollande also evoked a never before used clause in the Treaty on EU which compels member nations to provide France with "aid and assistance by all means in their power"

Meanwhile, the aircraft carrier Charles de Gaulle will be deployed to the eastern Mediterranean while French fighter jets pounded Raqqa for the second day in a row. Residents of the city (or "captives" as they might more appropriately be called given the fact that between ISIS and airstrikes they live in a perpetual state of paralysis), describe the last two nights as "insane." One activist who spoke to al-Jazeera described two "insane" nights and interestingly, also said that the French aren't really bombing anything and the only real damage is being done by the Russians: 

However, a media activist in Raqqa, who spoke on condition of anonymity, told Al Jazeera on Tuesday that French air strikes had targeted abandoned ISIL bases in the suburbs of the city where there are no civilians or ISIL fighters. 

 

"It has been two insane nights. Abandoned ISIL posts were targeted at the entrance of the city, along with ISIL checkpoints and several other points. Electricity and water have been cut off as supply lines were hit too.

 

"We can confirm that there were no civilians killed or injured in the latest French air strikes.

 

The Syrian activist in Raqqa said that in the past few days Russian air strikes had caused the most destruction.

 

"Last week, Russian air strikes destroyed one of the main bridges in the city in addition to the national hospital. Most hospitals in the city have been destroyed in Raqqa," he said.

 

"Russian air strikes have resulted in so much destruction. If these countries wanted to bomb the heartland of ISIL, they could have done so. But they still have not targeted the group's most important bases.

 

"This is what we do not understand. The targets bombed by French warplanes were mostly abandoned by ISIL fighters.

 

"Raqqa is devastated. Raqqa has endured the unbearable and we live in fear under ISIL's dictatorship.

 

"A lot of people fled the the city. In fact, most refugees heading to Europe are from Raqqa.

A couple of things stand out here. First, note that according to the source cited above, the French (using US "intelligence") are hitting targets where there are no fighters. The Russians, on the other hand, are hitting anything and everything which could hint at what many have alluded to all along - namely that the US is either i) intentionally avoiding ISIS, ii) scared of collateral damage, or iii) some combination of both and that's now finding its way into French strikes via the provision of intelligence from Washington to Paris. Second, the Russians are the ones doing the real damage to ISIS although there is of course the allegation that they are targeting hospitals because these days, everyone has to accuse everyone else of bombing hospitals.

Finally, note that now, the French are doing exactly what they and other Western powers accused Russia of doing last month at Aleppo: exacerbating the migrant crisis by wreaking havoc on populated areas. 

But we suppose they had no choice...

 

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Tue, 11/17/2015 - 10:56 | 6804326 22winmag
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It's like 9/11 all over again.

 

A few weeks worth of drunk driving deaths occur and you have turn the world upside down.

Tue, 11/17/2015 - 10:57 | 6804330 Polymarkos
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Wait until the muzzies unleash their hordes of unruly teenagers...France will surrender.

Tue, 11/17/2015 - 11:15 | 6804396 Analyse2
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It is so disturbing to owe its independence to the French!

This is the hidden reason for which the country that helped the US to defeat the British and gave the Statue of Liberty as a GIFT deserves so much vile hatred, as displayed within some of these comments...

Tue, 11/17/2015 - 10:58 | 6804337 Joe A
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If these bullet points are the only changes there what is the fuss? Revoking citizenship of terrorists and fighters of IS does not sound like a bad thing. But are they the only changes he proposes?

Hollande is having his 'Falkland war' moment. He needs something to save his rather disastrous presidency.

Tue, 11/17/2015 - 11:02 | 6804351 mijev
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Author unknown:

Youth are Jobless
Relationships are Meaningless
Attitudes are Careless
Babies are Fatherless
Feelings are Heartless
Education is Valueless
Children are Mannerless
We are SPEECHLESS,
Our Leaders are SHAMELESS
Our Government is CLUELESS,
Our Politicians are WORTHLESS !
And I'm scared Shitless

Tue, 11/17/2015 - 15:13 | 6805470 AlaricGaudiTheSecond
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Awesome man!!!

Tue, 11/17/2015 - 11:03 | 6804358 Volkodav
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Uno absurdo dato, infinita sequuntur

Tue, 11/17/2015 - 11:03 | 6804360 kingvaclav
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Terrorist Blows Himself Up; Now Look at the Windows

http://winteractionables.com/?p=27339

 

Tue, 11/17/2015 - 11:44 | 6804531 rejected
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Logic and reality notta matta,,, only matta is narrative.

notta worry,,, goobermint save us all.

Tue, 11/17/2015 - 11:11 | 6804381 NoTTD
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Sure, France is at war.  the entire Western world is, whether it wants to be or not.

 

But with whom or what?  Note that Hollande cannot bring himself to say France is at war with Islam.  What possible chance does the West have when it cannot even name its true enemy? 

 

All of you conspracy mongers searching desparately for a hidden CIS/Mossad/(pick your pet evil) plot merely assist Islam in its gradual submersion of civilization.  You'll be screaming over your shoulder "CIA!  Mossad!  Jews! Trilateral Commission! Patriot Act!"  when the bullet hits your head.

Tue, 11/17/2015 - 11:11 | 6804385 MEFOBILLS
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PCR predicted the outcome of French False Flag.  Their operations have become so transparent for those who have eyes.

 

http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2015/11/16/washington-refines-its-false-...

 

 

Tue, 11/17/2015 - 11:15 | 6804398 Jim Leyritz
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Good luck trying to get Putin to back off.

Tue, 11/17/2015 - 11:15 | 6804399 CaptainMoonlight
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How about adding a "Right to Bear Arms" (for the People to defend themselves) to your new Constitution, you fn moron.

 

Tue, 11/17/2015 - 11:52 | 6804405 NuYawkFrankie
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"Zay 'ate us for our french-fries... avec fromage fondu sur crispy baguettes" - Hollande

Tue, 11/17/2015 - 11:18 | 6804408 Fireman
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USSA'S I$I$ asset, excuse enough for fatboy Hollande to wage war against....Marine Le Pen and save La France from the terrible consequence of ripping off the rotten Mercan albatross stinking up all of Urupp. The 9 11 credit card that goes on giving...until it doesn't.

 

What next... Berlin?

Tue, 11/17/2015 - 11:24 | 6804421 HowdyDoody
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France claims to have made a massive bombardment 20 bombs - 10 aircraft.

Here is Russia's massive bombardment Tu-22, Tu-95, air launched and sub-launched cruise missiles, plus the usual Su-34, Su-25 stuff.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=igzjX1IKULw

 

Tue, 11/17/2015 - 11:25 | 6804433 TRM
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"the French aren't really bombing anything and the only real damage is being done by the Russians" - ROTFLMAO

 

Tue, 11/17/2015 - 11:38 | 6804491 franzpick
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Equities and crude are discounting some new news: What is it TD?  Peace on the rampage?  War?

http://www.investing.com/indices/us-30-futures-advanced-chart

Tue, 11/17/2015 - 11:38 | 6804496 rejected
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Fascism / Nazism / Militarism are on the move. Soon nowhere will be safe and we will demand even less freedom for the false 'security' the war mongering psychopaths offer which will cause even more 'terrorism' which will require even more 'security' which will...........

What a sad specie.

Tue, 11/17/2015 - 11:43 | 6804513 Hannibal
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So France is now bombing the very same terrorists they have been funding, training and arming.
Blowback or planned perpetual war, chaos and destruction?

Tue, 11/17/2015 - 11:43 | 6804516 Arthur Schopenhauer
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Politicians and pundits clamor for more force and repression—just as ISIS wants them to.

ISIS wins again.

Tue, 11/17/2015 - 11:48 | 6804543 Ms No
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Europe is going full Stalin.  France has jackboots everywhere, they are worse off than we are and they are completely defenseless.  If the situation continues to decline the jackboots will just end up kicking in doors and taking whatever and whoever they want.  Well they are already doing that, but it could happen on a massive and predatory Reichstag fire scale.  What's left of the rule of law wont make it long under these fake ISIS and boogie man Russia meme games.  Lets hope for the French that these emergency military maneuvers that they have taking place in their own country are short lived.   

They may attempt to condition people to raids on the population (like in Boston) but one day they will increase and then they just wont stop.  People will know not to question the authorities by then.  Of course at this rate that is somewhat of an optimistic view because if Europe pushes Russia to war France may become an effervescent shit stain.        

Tue, 11/17/2015 - 13:24 | 6804902 IndyPat
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Once the shock wears of, I think the French will snap to and be very pissed.
I have less faith in my countrymen wising up to .Govs bullshit. We are a long way from 9/11 and vast majorities still buy it,

Tue, 11/17/2015 - 11:55 | 6804563 Arthur Schopenhauer
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I'm all for pumping up the volume on the police state, as long as the police state don't pump up the volume in ***my*** head.

Tue, 11/17/2015 - 12:00 | 6804600 Panic Mode
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  1. In a non/less civilised world, if you kill someone's kid, they are more easily to become a terrorist than someone in a civilised world.
  2. If you just send fighter jets in without ground soldiers, likely there will be mistake and casualties on innocent people.
  3. Any bombing on the wrong target will anger neighbor Arab nations, hence even more terrorists.

This is going to be a one hell of a mess.

Tue, 11/17/2015 - 12:00 | 6804603 miki
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next empty the mosqes load them in a plane and send them all back to their muslim home land on a cargo plane just airdrop them fuck landing on a airstrip

Tue, 11/17/2015 - 12:04 | 6804621 bruno_the
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Shit is starting to hit the fan. Strategic bombers and cruise missiles... http://fortruss.blogspot.com/2015/11/shoigu-tu-22m3-has-bombed-isis-in-r... Between 9 am to 9:40 am, strategic bombers Tu-160 and Tu-MS made 34 launches of cruise missiles from the air targeting ISIS terrorists, said Russian defense Minister Sergei Shoigu.

Russian bombers Tu-22M3 attacked the "Islamic state" in the Syrian provinces of Raqqa and Deir ez-Zor, said the Russian defense Minister Sergei Shoigu. "Today from 5:00 to 5:30 a.m. Moscow time, 12 long-range bombers, Tu-22M3, inflicted strikes on targets of the terrorist organization ISIL in Raqqa and Deir-ez-Zor," — said Shoigu.

According to him, between 9 am to 9:40, strategic bombers Tu-160 and Tu-MS made 34 launches of cruise missiles from the air targeting on known terrorist targets. "All strikes are planned in considerable advance”, — said Shoigu.
Tue, 11/17/2015 - 12:25 | 6804704 bruno_the
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But wait there is more...

http://fortruss.blogspot.com/2015/11/russia-strikes-isis-with-cruise.htm...

Russia strikes ISIS with cruise missiles from a Mediterranean submarine for the first time in history
Tue, 11/17/2015 - 12:46 | 6804790 smacker
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Things are hotting up. I wouldn't want to be an ISIS jihadists taking breakfast in Raqqa.

Tue, 11/17/2015 - 12:05 | 6804626 Sparehead
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Don't do it France. You've long since surpassed the US and its Patriot Act for lacking freedoms. You're already spied on and can be arrested for politically undesirable "hate speech". Don't give the fuckers more power. 

Tue, 11/17/2015 - 12:16 | 6804657 Chuckster
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So we are the only ones that should suffer?

Tue, 11/17/2015 - 12:09 | 6804635 NubianSundance
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ISIS in Syria and Iraq are but two strands of an idea which extends into much of north and central Africa and other countries. It's supporters worldwide arguably runs into the tens if not hundreds of millions, the nexus being the fusion of Mr Wahabbi's Wahabbism and the extensive Saud family in Saudi Arabia, which grew from local tribe politics in the 18th century to the absurd behemoth it has become.

Tue, 11/17/2015 - 12:38 | 6804748 smacker
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There is an argument which says all these jihadists really want is their own country away from Western influence, financial corruption and porn (but not too far away from Levi jeans, t-shirts, sneakers, baseball caps, iPhones, laptops, Internet and a bunch of other Western inventions).

If that's the case, we can give them a large place in the Middle East to set up home and do whatever they want.

It's currently called Saudi Arabia.

Tue, 11/17/2015 - 12:23 | 6804680 Max Victor
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For Four Years the French, Brits and Yanks have been training and arming these moderate Terrorists like a pack of Rapters to take our Assad - only things got a little hot in Syria.

 

looks like body bags will be in a bull market.

What a set of FRENCH SCUM SHIT!

 

And now for some refreshing distraction:-

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U1mlCPMYtPk

 

 

Tue, 11/17/2015 - 12:29 | 6804727 European American
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“If you are a Muslim and you see that America twice elected an effeminate man with an Arabic name as president, why would you fear America?”

 

Tue, 11/17/2015 - 13:30 | 6804916 Chuckster
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There is much more to this story.  I hope I live long enough to witness the general public becoming aware of it.

Tue, 11/17/2015 - 12:31 | 6804731 smacker
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With the French Secret Service sweeping the country looking for shooters, this is beginning to resemble "The Day of The Jackal".

Tue, 11/17/2015 - 12:38 | 6804755 Reichstag Fire Dept.
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Clearly, the side to receive tactical assistance from was Russia. Russia is the only outfit doing anything real against ISIS/Al-Qaeda.

France, being a NATO country, was just forced to make a decision that may sound familiar..."are you with us or against us?"

Let's keep our eye on the ball here...The goal of the United States is to bankrupt the Russian economy. How? By over producing oil at home in the US to kill the price and by destroying Russia's energy distribution hub in Ukraine. Also, the US wants to "be a net exporter of energy". They have already begun shipping LNG to Europe to cover for lost supply out of Ukraine.

The US wants to build an oil pipeline from Saudi Arabia to Europe and a Nat. Gas pipeline from Qatar to Europe to sell energy to Europe after they wipe out Bashir Al-Assad as President of Syria.

It's no secret that both those lines will have to cross Syrian territory. Russia has everything to lose in the energy market if Al-Assad is removed and will lose one of their most important Naval Bases if Syria were to fall.

France just lined up on the side of the party that wants to eliminate their current energy supply in favour of a less secure one from a less friendly region.

I have to assume at this point that one of these "migrant refugees" is going to shout "NOW!" and the ground attack of Europe will begin. Otherwise this will be merely a sustained "war" that will never seem to end.

...and I think Vlad is "in it to win it" at this point.

Tue, 11/17/2015 - 13:28 | 6804914 Chuckster
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Fantastic post but how Buffet and Obama fit (profit) into this?

Tue, 11/17/2015 - 13:33 | 6804927 JohninMK
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Didn't we read that a couple of weeks ago that the French Minister of Trade had announced that the TTIP was not for France?

Might someone have taken extreme exception to that?

TTP and TTIP seem to be the US's last chance at gaining future power before the petro dollar evaporates.

 

Tue, 11/17/2015 - 14:09 | 6805117 Lucky Leprachaun
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"It's no secret that both those lines will have to cross Syrian territory."

No they won't.  They could be routed through Turkey via Iraq.

Tue, 11/17/2015 - 12:41 | 6804769 Joebloinvestor
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What a fucking mess.

If France wanted to "declare war" , Hollande should have done it in front of bulldozers ready to level the muslim squalor that surrounds Paris. 

Tue, 11/17/2015 - 13:25 | 6804909 Chuckster
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Hollande is Obama in sheeps clothing.

Tue, 11/17/2015 - 12:43 | 6804780 bankonzhongguo
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Time to rewatch The Battle of Algiers.

Tue, 11/17/2015 - 12:44 | 6804784 Grouchy Marx
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The solution is plain, but nobody has the courage or sense to implement it:

Expel all Muslims, and then you won't have to have a police state. We don't need many police among a civilized society.

The West still does not understand the threat. It is not militant Islam, it is Islam. You cannot separate one from the other, and to think so is an effort in total futility. It is baked into their holy book, it is baked into their theology; it is baked into their history and their DNA. Anybody who thinks there is anything peaceful about Islam is woefully ignorant of history.

Tue, 11/17/2015 - 13:24 | 6804903 Chuckster
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A small ignorant thought.

Become Christian = you will hear give me your money

Become Islam = you will get part of the loot

 

I wonder who was the best organizer

Tue, 11/17/2015 - 17:59 | 6806292 Grouchy Marx
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When a muslim suicide bomber eventually wanders into some western city with not an explosive vest but with a suitcase nuke, that small ignorant thought might, should it then dawn on you, be the best thought you've ever had.

Tue, 11/17/2015 - 20:15 | 6806862 SmedleyButlersGhost
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....... be the last thought you never had.  Better?

Tue, 11/17/2015 - 14:06 | 6805093 Lucky Leprachaun
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People can't seem to grasp the truth in what you say. Wherever Muslims represent a sizeable minority there's trouble. Always. Everywhere.

I see the Pope now might have to cancel a visit to some African hell-hole because the local representatives of the Religion Of Peace deem the visit to be......you've guessed it: offensive. The local security forces can't guarantee his safety.

Tue, 11/17/2015 - 16:03 | 6805724 Bazza McKenzie
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You'd think he'd be prepared to put his life on the line for his faith, wouldn't you?  Maybe it's just the little people who are destined to be martyrs.

Tue, 11/17/2015 - 12:49 | 6804803 PoasterToaster
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So the assault on citizenship goes to France. The Oligarchs love to dispossess people of their rights.  They are doing it in the US too- wait until the election gets closer and you will see a huge stink about birthright citizenship in the media.

Tue, 11/17/2015 - 12:50 | 6804807 I Write Code
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Where were these based?  Where were the missiles fired?

The good news is that I presume each cruise missile had something like a 500kg warhead, so that's a lot of boom.

Tue, 11/17/2015 - 12:56 | 6804825 the_law
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Yo Zerohedgers, how are those silver positions?  Did you bankrupt JP Morgan yet? Oh you're just going in for more? 

Maybe don't listen to a stupid phoney website, bahahahahha.

Tue, 11/17/2015 - 13:08 | 6804866 Arionov
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JP Morgan purchase 500 000 000 onz silver last week?

Tue, 11/17/2015 - 13:01 | 6804845 FlipFlop
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The Bible says something about a war in Syria...is it this one?

Tue, 11/17/2015 - 13:02 | 6804848 Pullmyfinger
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France is "at war" with NATO's mercenary proxy army, being currently the point-man for the elite in their last-ditch effort to herd the generally clueless populations of Europe into accepting totalitarian government.

Tue, 11/17/2015 - 13:03 | 6804851 Pullmyfinger
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France is "at war" with NATO's mercenary proxy army, being currently the point-man for the elite in their last-ditch effort to herd the generally clueless populations of Europe into accepting totalitarian government.

Tue, 11/17/2015 - 14:00 | 6805070 Lucky Leprachaun
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Yeah, ironic, isn't it?

Tue, 11/17/2015 - 13:04 | 6804854 Arionov
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Forget libanon. No body taking about terorist attack in liban last week. perhaps some deads are most important of others.Less importan deads of Turky or Russian airliner. all it died is the fact of the same team of teroristes. it would be worthier that we all respect it is dead by linking their flag with  French flag and not only French one. Pain to lose somebody whom we love is the same everywhere on this earth.

Tue, 11/17/2015 - 13:37 | 6804946 bruno_the
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Well. There is a small problem with the Beirut bombing. There are pictures of actual victims. People on the street helping. Nothing like Paris - everybody runs away and police everywere. Blud spots here and there... 

https://goo.gl/vIn10I

Tue, 11/17/2015 - 14:07 | 6805108 Oswald did it
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There's a photo of the aftermath at the Bataclan that has just been posted.   It's on liveleak, easy to find with a Google search

 

Tue, 11/17/2015 - 13:48 | 6805012 smacker
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People are concerned about the French attacks in case it affects the production of Camembert cheese. That would be a disaster.

Tue, 11/17/2015 - 13:28 | 6804910 Moccasin
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This is the remake of an earlier movie from 2001. In the past 14 years of fighting 'terrorists' what have we won? What have we done and why are the 'terrorists' getting stonger? Are the MIC and the banksters getting wealthy 'yet'?

Tue, 11/17/2015 - 14:20 | 6805181 indaknow
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Actually if I was making the movie it would have gone like this.....Russia finds proof of explosives behind airline passenger jet....finds proof of French financial connections...exacts revenge.......gives ultimatum....now their best friends

Now obviously I'm being scastic but WHO THE FUCK knows whats going on anymore!

Tue, 11/17/2015 - 13:39 | 6804960 AIfhu
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Will there be French "boots on the ground" in Syria & Iraq?

Tue, 11/17/2015 - 14:23 | 6805198 Dien Bien Poo
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I think there will be. Not sure where, but after their very sucessful defense and liquidation of Jihadists in Mali, I can see them sending in The Legion and Paras; probably to entice some IS to fight. Its very possible they target the vipers nest in Raqqua and just take them on upfront. 2 divisions of crack troops with full air superiority. Think Falluja. It wont be pretty.

Tue, 11/17/2015 - 13:41 | 6804965 Lazane
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Best way to defeat a bad guy with a gun is to have around a good guy with a gun

Tue, 11/17/2015 - 13:47 | 6804997 indaknow
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Come on Tyler update us on the latest cruise missile strike from the mediterranean.

Wow this shit is starting to sound just like a book I used to read as a child. And isn't Damascus supposed to turn to glass?

I sure hope this is just Vlad being  2 or 3 moves ahead of everyone else because if I hear that the Hordes of the East are coming I'm outta here.Lol

Tue, 11/17/2015 - 13:52 | 6805030 Lucky Leprachaun
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If it were not so serious I'd laugh.  Blowing up yet another ISIS 'command bunker' while ten million of their sympathisers are residing right on Hollande's doorstep? The terrorists are inside the gates, which were opened by domestic traitors.

Which reminds me, Hollande is also thinking of moving on dual-citizens with a view to revoking citizenship under certain circumstances. Now that is an idea, one that should also be adopted by America.  Then watch the fur fly!

Tue, 11/17/2015 - 13:58 | 6805060 Able Ape
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Puting Syria back together would be a good step in the right direction - everything else is questionable...

Tue, 11/17/2015 - 15:57 | 6805085 HowdyDoody
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More on the Massive French bombardment in Raqqa.

Journalists talking to people in Raqqa claim that the French have bombed abandoned ISIS bases in the suburbs where there are no civilians or ISIS members.

The article then leads into the Russian attacks which have caused the most destruction. Then the key point, most of the refugees are supposedly from Raqqa province - hence the migrant crisis is all Putin's fault. Given this slant, the earlier statement about France, one of ISIS's backers, pounding sand gains more credibility.

Al Jazeera article FWIW

http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2015/11/syrians-insane-nights-french-bombi...

Edit: Downvoted self as I didn't read the full article. Mea culpa.

Tue, 11/17/2015 - 14:07 | 6805106 SmittyinLA
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French strategery: 

  • bust a few token terrorists 
  • Bomb the 3rd world 
  • Take away more rights of French people 

From an Israeli banker/lawyer perspective this is a "brilliant plan", I'm sure increased taxes on working French for poor Muslims are part of the plan too, France is a 40% Muslim "Democracy".

Spot the permanent measure. 

Every new fascist law they pass will be gleefully welcomed by their new Muslim rulers. 

 

 

Tue, 11/17/2015 - 14:14 | 6805145 Thisisbullishright
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It's ALL about Oil, gold and Heroin!

 

Tue, 11/17/2015 - 14:16 | 6805155 miki
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Radovan Karadjic warned 20 years ago not to allow a muslim state in europe, instead you have him locked up in the Haug now choke on your falafel

Tue, 11/17/2015 - 14:46 | 6805331 Shizzmoney
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Belgium has been a hot bed of activity lately, first their government purchased a ton of US Treasury bonds, and now we find that the attack in Paris were planned in Brussels.

Might as well call Belgium, "CIA-land"

Tue, 11/17/2015 - 14:53 | 6805367 MoHillbilly
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Syria is today what the Spanish Civil War was in the 30s. A chane for everyone to try out their equipment and strecth before the coming big one. Come on in Germany, the waters fine, you know you want to. What if everyone  gets some practice and you don't?

Tue, 11/17/2015 - 14:58 | 6805392 NoWayJose
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Hopefully France doesn't target any ISIS locations that aren't approved by the U.S. That way the U.S. will have time to warn ISIS first!

Tue, 11/17/2015 - 14:59 | 6805394 begintowin
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Dear people of the great nation of France,

You are being duped by your politicos. I know because we Americans were duped after 9/11 as well. What your government should do is find the wealthy elitists who are funding these terrorists. Find them, arrest them, and imprison them. That's what the sphere of national intelligence should be doing; it should be following the money.

Killing these criminals will not stop the chaos and fear. Someone will always take their place as long as there is money available to fund and plan operations. Find the leaders who are organizing and financing these easily manipulated stooges and bring them to justice.

Tue, 11/17/2015 - 15:22 | 6805517 Paracelsus
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Everyone bags the French but back in 1954,PM Mendes-France stated that he would go to 

Geneva and come back with a workable peace plan for Vietnam or resign.

But...before he resigned he would introduce a bill for conscription and have the Assembly

vote on it.He was putting his colleagues on the spot.Put up or shut up.Contrast this to the USA:

LBJ wanted some political cover so he goes "nudge,nudge,wink,wink" to the Navy,they 

orchestrate some attacks along the coast of NVN,two US destroyers said they were attacked

by torpedo boats in the Tonkin Gulf.LBJ steamrollers the Tonkin Gulf resolution thru Congress

with the all necessary measures to repel aggression clause,and voila,the Defense contractors

are all happy.( Only two voted against,very brave,Alaska and Oregon ).

This is the tail wagging the dog: Because they do not want to go before the people,they "false flag"

their way into getting the support by default (the people demand action to show strength).

One final point: After the Bay of Pigs fiasco,JFK sacked all the high level CIA types who said he

would have cakewalk (no US military involvement).JFK goes to Dallas and dies,LBJ is sworn in 

and the Vietnam war is ramped up dramatically.Tons of paper money hits asia with the US troops,

France recycles the money into gold from Ft.Knox,Nixon drops up off the Bretton-Woods modified

Gold Standard,all the worlds currencies start floating against each-other,and US exports inflation to 

the world by using the Petrodollar to keep the dollar as the reserve currency (backed by the military).

Tue, 11/17/2015 - 15:39 | 6805614 Mr. Cynic
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'...French air strikes had targeted abandoned ISIL bases in the suburbs of the city where there are no civilians or ISIL fighters. '

"By God! We will bomb the fuck out of that desert until we've plowed up all the soil for next years crops."

Really?  Abandoned bases?  Empty shit?

WTF kind of "intelligence" supplied that info?

 

I hope that's not the full story.

 

Tue, 11/17/2015 - 15:41 | 6805627 deepdish
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And as expected: Europe now turn towards the bad guys:

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-11-17/putin-says-france-now-...

USA must hate the latest development.

Tue, 11/17/2015 - 15:53 | 6805680 HowdyDoody
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Hollande: We gonna bomb 'ISIS' [fingers crossed behind back]

Putin: Sure. Here are the cordinates. Let us know where you are when you come in. We would not want to have to shoot down unidentified aircraft 'mistakenly' bombing Syrian government assets. BTW Nice carrier. You should see our nice cruise-missile firing diesel-electric submarine.

 

 

Tue, 11/17/2015 - 16:59 | 6806036 deepdish
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You should really see how the sentiment here in Europe is changing in favor of letting Putin, Assad and Erdogan do the dirty job for us.

Our biggest challenge lays ahead of us. And that is what do we do when tens of thousands of young people who has grown up in Europe and later joined IS comes back.

Luckily 20% of all the Norwegian IS fighters have been killed in battle, but we need more aggressive bombings to make sure no one comes back alive. And this, unfortunately, is not something our western allies are able to do. For this we need Putin and Assad.

Tue, 11/17/2015 - 15:49 | 6805663 HowdyDoody
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France pounds a few deserted buildings and some sand. Russia pounds invisible oil truck convoys.

http://i.imgur.com/rfRDNyz.jpg

 

Tue, 11/17/2015 - 16:16 | 6805794 PoasterToaster
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Remind your anti-immigration Republican friends that the move to remove birthright citizenship is about removing THEIR citizenship.  This step is crucial to the plan to divest people of their nationalistic feelings and usher in an era of supra-national control from an elite.  This is why America is a problem; people in America have guns and a bad attitude towards elitists in general.

In other news, what level is QE at now?  The last number published was something like $85 billion a month, wasn't it?  Since QE never ends, just plateaus at a new higher level after each announcement, it has to have reached a new monthly level higher than $85 billion, right?

Good thing everyone is so busy talking about France instead of worrying about their paychecks and the malfeasance of their "government".

Tue, 11/17/2015 - 16:25 | 6805844 king leon
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What can France do to ISIS that Russia isn't already doing a lot better? It's obvious that the West & Co don't want Russia's peace plan to succeed in Syria along with free and fair elections. If Hollande(Obama's Bitch, one of many) fancies playing Russian Roulette with Putin over Syria then this won't end well for anyone. Putin knows now, if he didn't know already that no western leader can be trusted "So spin that barrel"

Tue, 11/17/2015 - 17:12 | 6806093 J J Pettigrew
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They should bomb Marseille and Dearborn while they are at it....

Tue, 11/17/2015 - 20:30 | 6806910 SmedleyButlersGhost
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There is a movement within the Muslim community to recognise Orville Hubbard as an Imam. Dearborn could be a recognised as a holy site in the future  It's widely recognised that his inclusive views are well in line with and respected by the Islam religion.

Wed, 11/18/2015 - 05:36 | 6808140 KashNCarry
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I once recognized Orville Reddenbocher in a post office in Coronado California.  We can make him honorary grand mufti of the popcorn world!

Wed, 11/18/2015 - 00:37 | 6807780 silverer
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It's like running out in the street to fight to protect your home and family, but you invited the rapists in for dinner, and they're still behind in your home.  WTF?

Tue, 11/17/2015 - 17:20 | 6806121 Chuckster
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Hollande the deb should moon them on tv and unleash a major juicy fart.

Tue, 11/17/2015 - 17:54 | 6806258 honestann
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The French retaliation is obviously feel-good PR, not real attacks on ISIS, which the French government obviously knows was created by USSA and NATO (including France).

The main purpose of the recent "step-up" in NATO attacks on ISIS is PR, to attempt to counteract the PR win the Russians have for actually fighting ISIS.  However, that's not the only purpose.  Another is to move more equipment into Syria (in violation of "international law") to go after Assad and to destroy infrastructure to make the Syrian people miserable.

In the long run, the goal of USSA/NATO/France/others is to get rid of Assad, install a puppet government, steal their gold to continue to suppress the gold price, steal natural resources of Syria, screw Russia out of a pipeline route, isolate Iran, create ever-increasing trouble in the mid-east, and who knows what else.

Tue, 11/17/2015 - 23:49 | 6807687 onmail1
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Looks like a dictator is born

Wed, 11/18/2015 - 00:35 | 6807775 silverer
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If it doesn't work in nature it will not work among the human population.  When bee hives are invaded by wasps the response is fierce and immediate.  Never have we seen a hive take in its enemy, and "try to get along".  That's why you still have hives of honeybees.  By not following that example, the west has doomed their culture and their future.

Wed, 11/18/2015 - 05:32 | 6808139 KashNCarry
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These fuckers have too many vowels attached to their names...

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