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Turkish F-16s Shoot Down Russian Su-24 Warplane Near Syria Border

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Moments ago a big black geopolitical swan landed when newswires lit up with headlines that a Turkish F-16 shot down what was initially said to be an unidentified warplane near the Syrian border after it violated Turkey's airspace on Tuesday, a Turkish military official said, but the nationality of the downed aircraft was not immediately clear.

The Russian jet crashed in the mountainous Jabal Turkmen area of Latakia, where air strikes and fighting between rebels and Syrian government forces were reported earlier on Tuesday. 

According to Reuters, Turkish F16s warned the jet repeatedly over the airspace violations before shooting it down.

A Russian Su024 aircraft goes down in Kizildag region of Turkey's
Hatay province, close to the Syrian border, on November 24, 2015

 

Footage from private broadcaster Haberturk TV showed a warplane going down in flames in a woodland area, a long plume of smoke trailing behind it. The plane went down in area known by Turks as "Turkmen Mountain" in northern Syria near the Turkish border, Haberturk said.

 

Minutes later, the Turkish Lira sank like a rock while risk assets across Europe tumbled when the Turkish presidency confirmed that, as many had expected, the jet was a Russian fighter jet, which the Russian Defense Ministry later said was a Su-24. The Su-24 jet was warned after violating Turkish airspace and was then downed in line with Turkey’s rules of engagement, Anadolu says, citing officials at the presidency.

According to Todays' Szaman, in a statement, the Turkish military said a plane of unknown origin was shot down after it violated the Turkish airspace despite repeated warnings. The aircraft was warned 10 times in 5 minutes, the military said.

It said two Turkish F-16s were involved in the shooting down of the jet.

However, while moments ago the Russian defense ministry confirmed that the shot down plane was indeed one of its own in what will be deemed a clear act of aggression by a NATO-member country against Russia, the Russian defense ministry said it could prove the aircraft was over Syria for the entire flight.

The ministry added that the pilots ejected, according to preliminary info, and that Russia trying to determine their fates, Interfax reports.  Interfax also adds that the plane was probably downed by fire from ground, and that it had been flying at flying at an altitude of 6,000 meters.

Meanwhile, Turkish media reported that either one or both of the pilots may have been captured by Turkmen forces located in the region.

  • TURKMEN FORCES CAPTURE 2 PILOTS OF DOWNED RUSSIAN JET: AHABER

Although there is confusion whether both or just one pilot was captured

  • SYRIA TURKMEN FORCES SAY 1 PILOT OF DOWNED PLANE CAPTURED: AA

Especially with a YouTube video spread showing what is alleged to be one of the pilots dead

More:

A CNN Türk reporter in Yaylada? said a helicopter was hovering over the scene of the crash, apparently to pick up the pilots, but that opposition fighters were preventing it. The reporter later said one of the pilots was at the hands of Turkmen opposition fighters.

 

Prime Minister Davuto?lu has been briefed by the General Staff and ordered the Turkish Foreign Ministry to contact NATO, UN and relevant countries about the downed plane.

This huge escalation in the Syrian proxy war, one where a NATO country has openly attacked a non-NATO country (if Russia is correct and it did not violate Turkish airspace), comes after Turkey called this week for a U.N. Security Council meeting to discuss attacks on Turkmens in neighboring Syria, and last week Ankara summoned the Russian ambassador to protest the bombing of their villages.

Ankara has traditionally expressed solidarity with Syrian Turkmens, who are Syrians of Turkish descent.

We await a formal reaction by Russia, one which we doubt will be calm, cool and collected and may in fact see the Turkish aggression as an act of war if indeed the Russian Su never entered Turkish territory.

Here is the official statement by Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov via Sputnik:

"So far, we have not heard the reason for the crash of our attack aircraft from the Defense Ministry. We know for sure that the aircraft was in Syrian airspace, over the territory of Syria," Peskov said, noting that the ministry's first statement on the crash was based on preliminary information.

 

"It would be wrong to make some kind of assumptions right now, to make any statements until we have the complete picture. Therefore, we just have to be patient. This is a very serious incident, but again, it is impossible to say anything without complete information," he added.

 

"It can be assumed that the president… will touch upon this issue during the talk with the king, and that there will be some kind of a reaction," Peskov told reporters when asked whether Putin would make a statement on the matter.

Elsewhere, the Turkish army released what it claims is a radar path analysis of the downed jet's flight path:

At first blush it is not clear how the airspace violating jet could have received "10 warnings" in the several seconds it took to cross what the Turks claim was the offending Turkish territory, especially since the plane ultimately crashed in Syrian territory.

Updates to follow.

 

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Tue, 11/24/2015 - 06:07 | 6830728 Reichstag Fire Dept.
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BBC World Service is reporting it as a "He said, she said" affair that has a lot of details still to be verified. 

Russians say something on the ground shot it down. 

Turkey say one of their F-16 fighters shot it down.

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 06:08 | 6830729 Grouchy Marx
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If I could only invest in stupidity I'd be rich. 

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 06:09 | 6830734 dumbStruck
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Turkey has long been over ripe for a " color revolution " . Maybe a red one eh Vlad ? What do you say to alittle unrest... well... there's already alittle isn't there.. how about a hell of a lot then ? Russians know a thing or two about stirring up revolutionary movements in already unstable countries. Turkey is unstable. It's a wobbling tower of jello in fact.

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 06:09 | 6830735 Illegal
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Putinn will now arm the Kurds. Payback is a bitch.

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 06:11 | 6830738 desirdavenir
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from Google Maps, the frontier looks to sit at the hills top... Can't figure the direction of the plane on this shot, but it seems to come from east, not north, where Turkey territory would be...

In any case, it is soon Thanksgiving, so let's see what happens to Turkey

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 06:11 | 6830739 Illegal
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Putin will now arm the Kurds. Payback is a bitch.

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 06:14 | 6830746 Joenobody12
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Putin should have done that long ago. The Kurds would provide a great barrier between Syria and the ISIL in Turkey. 

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 06:11 | 6830740 Joenobody12
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Turkey is cook ! Happy thanksgiving. 

Those of you surprised at Turkey's air to air combat against Russia need to see things from their point of view. Turkey view itself as ISIL, at war with Russia. 

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 06:12 | 6830741 Reichstag Fire Dept.
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Vladimir Putin; your mission, should you choose to accept it, is to destroy NATO Armed Forces in the Middle East and take over the region on behalf of Russia..

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 06:24 | 6830770 radiobomb
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great handle RFD !

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 06:12 | 6830742 Vylahkinnen
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Fuck it boys! This it. Get your weapons. The Jungle has arrived.

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 06:16 | 6830754 Vylahkinnen
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I am not willing to die for these cocksuckers in Ankara. And I love Russia more than Turkey.

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 06:14 | 6830745 Supernova Born
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Bloomberg says at least one pilot killed.

Murdered while responding to the murder of Russians on a civilian airliner.

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 06:16 | 6830751 AllBentOutOfShape
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This looks like revenge against Russia for bombing the ISIS oil tankers.  Erdogan's bitch-ass son must've been pissed about losing one of his primary investments.

Unfortunately for Turkey, payback will be a bitch.

 

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 06:22 | 6830768 Vylahkinnen
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Don't you think about the moment? Hollande wanted to create an alliance between USA - France - Russia. And now this happens. That motherfucker Erdogan. They've treated Islamic fighters in their hospitals, allowed supplies to run through and let the ISIS recruits through - on the other hand this motherfucker created the refugee crisis all by himself when he let thousands over his border to reach Greece.

I am in a NATO country - but I will not fight the Russians. I have much more in common with them than with any Turkmen or Arab. Come on - what has the MUSLIM world to offer? What nobel prizes? Fuck them. It's time to drop some nukes on Saudi-Arabia. Fucking wahhabistic cult that is ruining every corner of this world - even in China - Russia - India - now Europe...

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 06:37 | 6830797 Brazen Heist
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Its too bad Uncle Sam is in bed with the Sunni extremists.

And yes, the muslim powers are trying to drag us all in their shitholes. If we are dumb enough to go there that is.

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 08:56 | 6831226 Invinciblehandaxe
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fucking correct dude...those goat fuckers have not invented anything of value or use since the middle age

i am in a nato country as well....if it comes to war I will deflect and fight for the russians the minute a get the chance

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 12:52 | 6832775 Bemused Observer
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That's it...Saudi-fucking-Arabia. That is the nest that needs to be cleaned out. Wahhabism has caused just about all of the problems in that region today.

Wahhabi's would not be in power there today if it weren't for the West.

And if Ibn Saud could see what his sons, grandsons and great-grandsons have wrought, he'd probably have cut his own balls off at the age of 12. On his deathbed he's supposed to have said, "Verily, my children and my possessions are my enemies."[

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 06:22 | 6830763 Zinu
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I think Turks/NATO slapped putin as a bitch once with downing it's Su-24 Warplane

and next bitch slap putin will receive when Turks will close access to Turkish straits in Black sea so that putin can suck his thumb in dark corner :D ha ha ha

Those russkies in Syria will than find them selves very lonely without any supply from Russia :D ha ha ha

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 06:35 | 6830794 Dre4dwolf
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Putin didn't think the Turks actually had the balls to shoot at him.

What happens next will be the real show.

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 06:45 | 6830819 Zinu
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Same thing as with daesh aka ISIS - putin din't think they can down passanger airplane. But they did and putin has not replied to that till this day. Same here, putin violated many times Turkish airspace, got many warnings but ignored them - got bitch slapped by downing russkies Su-24 and in respone again - will be nothing. He is weak.. he is pussy.

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 06:52 | 6830837 Dre4dwolf
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If they wanted to any military super power Russia or the U.S. could completely devastate the Turkish government/chain of command in an afternoon, probably from orbit.

We are talking ants vs. ant eaters here, nation states like Turkey, Iran and anything with a "stan" at the end of it are ALLOWED to exist by Russia/Usa.

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 07:05 | 6830886 Zinu
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Russia is no super power - it's super power in lies and propaganda and troll who believe in it :D

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 07:56 | 6831013 schatzi
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Russia is no super power - it's super power in lies and propaganda and troll who believe in it :D

 

3,281 active strategic nuclear warheads tell a different story, but what would you know.

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 08:13 | 6831055 Zinu
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So does Pakistanis has them - so what? That doesn't make them super power - nor russia.

:D

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 08:16 | 6831066 schatzi
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Dude, are you for real? My cat has better arguments.

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 06:56 | 6830854 dogismycopilot
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So what you are saying then, Zinu, is you support ISIS and the terrorists. Yes? 

Turkey is now shooting down Russian planes for ISIS.

So this means you are with ISIS, yes?

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 07:13 | 6830904 Zinu
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Had I said that I support ISIS aka daesh? No I have not.

Have I said that putin has not replied to ISIS aka daesh attack? Yes, I have.

Now how did you concluded from that I support ISIS aka daesh? Huh?

Learn

 

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 07:28 | 6830945 dogismycopilot
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because this is a zero sum game. Are you a Christian or are you Aethist? Unless you subscribe to the Radical ideology of ISIS then they will affect you and not for the positive.

 

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 07:29 | 6830947 Zwelgje
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You state that you're happy that the Su-24 was shot down...

This plane was in the proces of bombing ragheads known for incessantly shouting "Allah Akbar".

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 07:36 | 6830955 Zinu
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I am happy to see how criminal putin regime is shown where it's place is in this world. This is NATO airspace - by violating it you will feel consequences. And I am pleased Turks did that. Now we also see how weak is putin who is shown here in his propaganda channels as macho man.. ha! he is nothing a puss. He has not replied to ISIS attack.  Yes, I would love to see collapse of criminal putin regime. He is criminal and he must be punished. Of course I am happy to see his humiliation. He deserves that. And he is not fighting ISIS but Syrian rebels.

 

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 07:38 | 6830960 dogismycopilot
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ok, i get it, you're not Orthodox.  Don't worry, someone will find you.

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 08:20 | 6831080 Razor_Edge
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It's best to ignore these trolls, responding only encourages them.

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 07:45 | 6830977 Baby Bladeface
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"

I am happy"

No, you a miserable creature, not a man and more of a segmented worm, lives inadequate and worthless existence, and reduced to ISIS cheerleading.

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 06:58 | 6830857 Baby Bladeface
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In any post will fit with the references to his fetish. I'm sure he has a photo of Putin in the medallions on the neck.

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 06:44 | 6830816 Baby Bladeface
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"

I think"

Evidence lacking of this phenomenon.

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 06:21 | 6830764 dogismycopilot
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What I find amazing, is that NATO and the US and EU all have such short memories. The Turks have been, historically, enemies of Europe and this is well known and documented. During the Battle of Gallipoli the Turks kicked the living shit out of the Brits, French, Canadians and Kiwis. I mean, it was a fucking blood bath complete with lots of "allah akbar", head choppings, torturing and murder of POWs, and in short, the usual barbaic warfare.

Now NATO has these same assholes in their club and the US, UK and French swallow the Recap's bullshit like its some kind of pudding.

I hope Putin kicks Turkey's ass. 

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 06:33 | 6830782 Dre4dwolf
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Turkey probably harbors more terrorists than Iran lol its like a Military Extremist religion state bottom to top, Turkey makes Iran look westernized by comparison.

Greece been at war with Turkey for thousands of years, Europe had its chance to get rid of Turkey last time around, but instead of backing up Greece the brits (after coaxing greece to attack turkey) ran away with their tail between their legs, thats how Greece lost a lot of its islands.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imbros

 

Greece/Greeks been dealing with the damned Turks and European backstabbers for centuries lol the rest of the world is ignorant of the reality with them.

 

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 07:40 | 6830963 tsuki
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Not only Greece.  Many Balkan countries have no love of the Turkmen, Bulgaria, Serbia, and Herzegovina.

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 06:34 | 6830793 desirdavenir
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Ottoman empire has been a long time ally of France, before turning to Germany in the XIXth century. 

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 06:21 | 6830765 radiobomb
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turkey has consistantly played both sides, ... the almost-EU member, yet gateway to Isis. Actually admitted to supplying the Sarin for the initial 'blame Assad' gassing [see zerohedge articles of gov admissions]. So started the shit in that area in the 1st instance. Now this... with the tech they got, plane type id isnt hard I imagine - so they knew what they were shooting at....

still, turkey for xmas is a tradition...

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 07:52 | 6831002 Frederico
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Could you link me up with that Gov Admissions article? 

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 06:22 | 6830766 T413f14
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Peeps do not challenge the pecking order, nor the immaculate royal eggs,  contentment found within Zuckerberg and playing EIC roulette and for your added enjoyment Corporate Sponsored Nuclear Winter.

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 06:22 | 6830767 NuYawkFrankie
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Turkey about to get stuffed - just in time for Thanksgiving.

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 06:43 | 6830813 lakecity55
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Shoot down two Turkish fighters in exchange. If the Russian pilots died, send the Turk pilots to Siberia.

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 22:46 | 6836061 Freddie
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They murdered the Russian pilots.  It is a war crime but just about everything ZATO and the Saudis in Yemen or the dual shitizens in Kiev do is a war crime.

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 06:25 | 6830771 Dre4dwolf
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Russians will retaliate.

Turkey needs to be shown how small and insignificant it really is in the grand scheme of things, it has no business shooting down Russian jets no matter where they fly.

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 06:24 | 6830772 smacker
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Methinks this is a deliberate, planned action by Turkey & NATO to drag NATO into a war against Russia. NATO now aiming to invoke Article 5 over this incident.

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 06:27 | 6830781 samjam7
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You think Europe will follow? I highly doubt it, you'd have demonstrations in no time.

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 06:47 | 6830825 smacker
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Maybe, but the public's anger takes time to emerge.

In the UK, despite that Parliament denied Cameron permission to bomb Syria a long while back and Cameron said he would abide by their decision, it was revealed more recently that he has been bombing anyway using cover of acting under treaty with several other nations. Apparently that's different, but probably not to those on the receiving end.

And there have been Brit forces secretly in Syria for a long while.

Truth is we have little idea WTF is going on over there and the political elites and NATO are lying thru their teeth.

When WWIII starts, the public won't know about it until it's already underway. Going out on the streets will have little effect.

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 06:59 | 6830860 Winston Churchill
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Its been underway since Sochi.

Just repeating the phoney war stage of WWII.

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 07:54 | 6831007 smacker
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I fear you are right.

Can't be long before a major escalation occurs. Perhaps this is it.

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 07:09 | 6830899 Wahooo
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The Europeans see Russia and France taking care of the ISIS threat, and I doubt they hold much in common with the average Turk, let alone the bastard Ergodan. I really can't see the EU doing anything but issuing a sternly worded warning about honoring air space, while in the background Ergodan gets a phone call from the presidents of France and Germany informing him that he is now on his own with the Bear.

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 07:31 | 6830950 Zwelgje
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Average 'Joe the Euro' dislikes Turks so bad, you have no idea.

It's no different the other way around.

Turks come to Europe for free money and slut fucking.

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 06:31 | 6830789 desirdavenir
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if this was deliberate, it was to prevent an effective alliance between Nato members and Russia to destroy ISIS, not to go at war against the russian bear... 

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 06:49 | 6830829 smacker
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Good point.

Where does that leave France which is already in alliance with Russia?

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 07:05 | 6830882 desirdavenir
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who knows who is really allied with who ? I had made a long list of possibilities for current foreign policy, but it all boils down to that question, and I don't think anyone able to answer it (and I am anyway not in that lot) is willing to answer it truthfully. So grabing popcorn and just analyze the situation as it evolves to eliminate possibilities is all that we have...

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 07:10 | 6830902 Macon Richardson
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Cheese eating surrender monkeys.

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 07:51 | 6830995 smacker
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Nothing changes(!)

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 06:48 | 6830827 css1971
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1 chute. It's a 2 man plane.

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 07:08 | 6830894 Yttrium Gold Ni...
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There's a video with two chutes, it's available on RT.

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 06:31 | 6830788 atthelake
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IF the pilots are dead, Vlad has to retaliate. He has to. We're watching the begining of WWIII.

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 06:32 | 6830790 Frankie Carbone
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Look for Russian fighter escorts to start in Northern Syria, with a Turkish fighter getting blown out of the sky the minute it steps into Syrian airspace. 

The major power ALWAYS react this way. Russia will send a signal back to NATO and from there, we pray. 

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 06:48 | 6830828 Zinu
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russkies is no major power, it''\s economy is behind Italy... so what kind of major power is that? Only major power for russkie trolls and in putin propaganda - yeah.. there it is Only major power in world :D ha ha ha

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 07:03 | 6830874 Baby Bladeface
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Yes, you have a very unusual case of mental disorder and attempt to escape from reality.

You can't even imagine how I laugh when reading it. It is very uplifting, kind notes of a schizophrenic from ward No. 6.

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 07:12 | 6830907 Macon Richardson
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If you took your finger out of your nose, perhaps you could type your tripe better.

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 08:13 | 6831020 fel.temp.reparatio
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...even my cat laughs at you. he's a smart cat.

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 06:33 | 6830792 MATA HAIRY
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splash the bogie, maverick

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 06:35 | 6830795 The Ingenious G...
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Who among you will join me to fight for Turkey?

Hold it! I mean who among you will fight for Turkey?

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 06:42 | 6830810 Baby Eating Dingo22
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You can haves the turkey

But you best keeps yous hands off mys biscuits and gravy

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 06:38 | 6830796 gcjohns1971
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The problem with playing chicken is that sometimes no one turns away at the last moment.

The Turks have been playing Chicken with Islamists.

The Euros & Americans too...

Russia has been violating others airspace and generally pretending it's 140 million people are the military equal of the 500 million Soviets they once led.

China has also been playing Chicken, pretending that man-made structures in the ocean extend its territory.

But do BP platforms in the North Sea make it a British lake?  American platforms in the gulf make it American?

All of the above are games played by mad men, rejecting rules of conduct in principle, in favor of a gun.

Reason and rules are not right, they say.

Might makes right...and so each competes to demonstrate his strength.

Mideval Times have come again.

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 08:35 | 6831135 flapdoodle
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Poor analysis... you really need to read more, and check the agenda of your sources.

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 06:37 | 6830798 Itsthetiming
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The only thing being questioned is the resolve of the USA. Russia And China are creating situations to find out how far the USA will go.

This is a test.

Is the USA REALLY prepared to actually go to war? The expansion plans for China and Russia all depend on the USA being either willing or unwilling.

It's a test

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 07:20 | 6830929 LongMarch
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Go look at a map of miltary bases around the world and then see who is testing who.

You are either willfully blind or willfully stupid.

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 06:38 | 6830801 QuickFrozen
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Keep up the good work.

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 06:39 | 6830804 ciscokid
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Kremlin spokesman calls downing of Russian warplane in Syria a 'very serious incident’
Tue, 11/24/2015 - 06:50 | 6830833 Zinu
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Yes, very serious... no go in that corner and cry about it :D

 

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 07:07 | 6830890 Baby Bladeface
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And someone in the head only imaginary worlds, where everything is merged and fucked.

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 07:01 | 6830866 Jack Oliver
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Russia is normally understated - so this is a FUCKING serious incident !

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 06:39 | 6830805 Baby Eating Dingo22
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BTF BIG BLACK SWAN DIP!!

 

 

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 07:07 | 6830892 buzzsaw99
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this. btfd.

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 06:39 | 6830806 lakecity55
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This calls for retaliation against the artillery battery the fire came from, or a similar target.

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 06:42 | 6830807 AUD
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Interesting. I saw a documentary on Sukhoi aircraft recently. The Su 24 is supersonic bomber, not a fighter interceptor & would be no match for a pair of F16's. The idea was for the Su 27 & Mig aircraft to cover for the Su 24, which doesn't seem to be the case here. The Russians must have assumed their aircraft would not be targeted. Seems they were wrong.

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 06:45 | 6830818 Quinvarius
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Turkey should have been kicked out of NATO years ago.  It is run by an insane idiot.  We should not have to back that retard in any war he starts.

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 07:19 | 6830925 Macon Richardson
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Being ruled by insane idiots has never been a criterion for expulsion from NATO. Rather, it seems to have been the prime criterion for participation in NATO.

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 06:44 | 6830815 Kaeako
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Now we'll see how tough this Putin guy is. NATO vs. Russia, show the world and your fanbois what you've got. After all it would be pretty awkward to sail his ships right past one of Turkey's major cities to access his southern ports, pretending nothing happened...

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 06:55 | 6830847 Quinvarius
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If Putin thinks a war is inevitable, he will finish it in less than an hour.  It is unfortunate that Islamic Obama fanbois don't understand what they are messing with.

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 07:17 | 6830889 Supernova Born
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Russia's recent actions in Syria were caused by the downing of a Russian civilian airliner.

Now his pilots were murdered.

I trust Putin will impress.

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 07:14 | 6830915 Kaeako
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Well yes, the same could be said about the United States. MAD is a bitch.

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 08:01 | 6831021 arby63
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Obama's real fan is really nothing more than a consortium of Hollywood, Wall Street and sexual misfits.

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 07:15 | 6830916 PeakOil
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Don't kid yourself. Putin is not only tough, but very smart. And always carefully considers before he acts.

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 06:47 | 6830822 Brazen Heist
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The pilots are dead apparently, killed by local militias.

Thankfully Russia has cool heads in charge. Although this is surely testing limits.

Why the fuck is Turkey in NATO?????

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 06:50 | 6830835 Kaeako
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Apparently it's in NATO because it's not afraid to bitch slap Russia, or any other threat, imaginary or otherwise. Seems useful enough for a military alliance.

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 07:42 | 6830970 Zwelgje
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Another tough keyboard warrior.

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 06:51 | 6830836 22winmag
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Why the fuck is the U.S. in NATO??

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 08:59 | 6831250 gezley
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Turkey is in NATO because for hundreds of years Britain has wanted to make sure Russia does not get a free ride through the Bosphorus and Dardanelles.

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 18:33 | 6834973 BarkingCat
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Why the fuck is Britain involved in that part of the world?
Fuck Britain. ..and tell them to get the fuck out of Ireland.

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 20:49 | 6835466 gezley
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They're involved because they still think they have a right to all the choke-points governing the flow of world trade and naval power: Singapore, Suez, Gibraltar, the Turkish Straits, and so on.

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 06:47 | 6830823 dogismycopilot
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RT is reporting that one of the pilots may be dead. The other's status is unknown.

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 06:48 | 6830826 22winmag
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A little history.

 

When the U.S. Army retired it's lever-action Winchester rifles, many of them were sold to Turkey, which promptly used them to commit the Armenian genocide.

 

When the U.S. Air Force retires it's F16 warplanes, many of them are sold to Turkey, which promptly uses them to [your answer goes here].

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 06:54 | 6830845 Brazen Heist
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Europe's cute little dance with Sultan Erdogan will end very soon, once they realize who they are dealing with. Although I'm not so sure. The EU is currently bribing Turkey to keep refugees out, what happens when Erdogan opens the floodgates, and the Beta males in Brussels realize they are actually toothless? Turkey is in NATO - what a big mistake.

America will love to see Europe weakened, and will encourage the Turks.

I hope Europe realizes America has gone utterly rogue along with its band of Sunni terrorists - Turkey, Saudis, Qataris.

Europe needs to switch alliances with Iran and Russia and China - it makes most sense. Fuck off America and your Sunni fucktard friends. You are the enemies of peace.

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 07:10 | 6830901 PeakOil
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^This. Wake. The. Fuck. Up. Europe!!

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 08:13 | 6831052 Calmyourself
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"what happens when Erdogan opens the floodgates," the Europeans open the warehouses full of razor wire and create a southern border if their smart.  Of course they think they are so they replace their native populations with islamists..  Great plan elites you can divide/conquer for a few more glorious years until your burned alive in imported  Daesh cages..

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 06:50 | 6830834 SoDamnMad
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Cheney's passport was found on the ground near the crashed jet.

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 06:53 | 6830840 dogismycopilot
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Fuck it, I needed a reason to boycott Istanbul. Glad I saw Istanbul while I could.

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 06:53 | 6830841 PR Guy
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Reports coming in at least one of the pilots is dead. Some footage doing the rounds (described as very graphic - even the UK's Daily Telegraph won't show it) but don't have a link to it just yet.

 

 

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 06:57 | 6830842 Jack Oliver
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3 million Russians holiday in Turkey every year - Erdogen is insane - He just signed his own death warrant ! Russia won't invade Turkey - They will lure them into Syria !

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 07:03 | 6830876 dogismycopilot
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Putin should make Turkey a NO GO zone for Russian tourists and let Recap sit and spin on that.

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 07:45 | 6830976 Wahooo
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Syria - where Turks go to die.

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 08:07 | 6831035 TheSheepWolf
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Exactly. I guess that Russians will be just fine. Turks will be screwed. No vacation in Turkey for Russians and other Europeans too... Oh did I mention no cheap gas for Turks? :)

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 06:55 | 6830851 Yttrium Gold Ni...
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The main question now is: are Western European (think Germany and France) countries willing to risk their relations (and asses, too) with Russia, or will they just ignore NATO article 5 and let Turkey deal with this on its own, or will they just kick Turkey out of NATO? Collective defense agreements are OK, but in this case, Turkey wasn't really attacked, so main NATO players (US excluded) may just leave Turkey hanging out to dry if Russia decides to respond militarily in this case. One way or the other, it's safe to conclude Turkey can be written off.

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 07:00 | 6830863 SpanishGoop
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You can only invoke atricle 5 if you are attacked, not if some plain violates you airspace.

Do not think that Turky can claim that they thought that Russia was attacking them.

 

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 07:02 | 6830870 Joe A
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Especially if that plane was shut down over a no-fly zone over Syria unilaterally imposed by Turkey as Kiwi below mentioned.

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 07:05 | 6830879 SpanishGoop
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Just read that Turkey is already talking with NATO.

I think they realize they made a big mistake.

 

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 07:25 | 6830937 Yttrium Gold Ni...
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Turkey can claim whatever it wants, the reaction of other parties in the collective defense agreement is what's important, and my thoughts are that other parties are not willing to risk the interests they have in, or with Russia, over what I believe is a provocation by some guy who thinks he's better chess player than Putin, thinking NATO will come running to his rescue. If a member of a group is more of a liability than an asset, he gets cut off, it's plain and simple.

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 07:32 | 6830951 dogismycopilot
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I hope you are right. The trouble is, Kerry is in the Middle East right now and the fucker is dumb as a rock. If I were Putin, I would start by

1.) immediately declaring Turkey a NO GO zone for all Russian Citizens unless they have diplomatic status. 

 

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 07:05 | 6830880 Kaeako
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If there's some sort of escalation between a NATO member and Russia then it's almost certain they will "risk their relations". I doubt it will come to war, but tighter sanctions are not an impossibility, depending on the Russian response.

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 09:38 | 6830919 Yttrium Gold Ni...
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If I were Merkel or Hollande, I'd think twice before escalating things with Russia over some lunatic self-proclaimed sultan, who can't sell me either gas or oil, but can get me into trouble without my consent.

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 06:58 | 6830858 Joe A
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Video of dead Russian pilot. If genuine then big troubles ahead.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Cdkf3Xx3nw&oref=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtu...

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 07:03 | 6830871 PR Guy
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Russiand are going to be might pissed with that video doing the rounds on the interweb showing a bunch of tossers with beards shouting Allah U Akbar and prodding the dead pilot with their fingers and rifles.
Tue, 11/24/2015 - 07:03 | 6830872 Zinu
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Criminal putin who likes to play him self as bick guy but in reality is just pathetic puss reminds me of this video - putin is like cartman here

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 07:13 | 6830914 Brazen Heist
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How much does the CIA waste per hour on you?

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 07:19 | 6830927 Wahooo
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Fuck you. No Americans are going to war for you. Fuck you.

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 08:05 | 6831028 moman
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Americans are broke and can't find jobs, they wil sign up for anyone that will give them a pay check.

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 07:49 | 6830986 dogismycopilot
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hey mate, we know you are with ISIS hence your black flag logo. please stop spamming us. 

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 08:11 | 6831047 Zinu
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As ISIS, Russia, Syria is fighting against US backed rebels in Syria and I stand against putin regime - it means that I am not with ISIS but you as putin troll - you are with ISIS. Here you go! :D

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 08:32 | 6831125 dogismycopilot
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I take it English is your second language. 

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 10:54 | 6831913 farflungstar
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Latvian faggot rooting for terrorists - awful big mouth from such a pissant little country. Where's yomutti and alphahomo? thought they would be here giggling like little bitches to get their dead Russian murder jollies? 

Must be the next JIDF shift.

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 07:04 | 6830877 Wahooo
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Let's see if I connected the dots correctly ... Turkish leader Ergodan's brother is the leader of the ISIS oil for food and weapons program and getting nice big kickbacks. Russia starts blowing up 1000s of oil tankers and refineries with SU-24 bombers. Ergodan's brothers goes from cash rich to cash poor. Ergodan steps in and drops an SU-24 from the sky.

Got it.

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 07:09 | 6830895 Lumberjack
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Russia says to halt gas supplies to Ukraine, mulling coal cut off over Crimea

http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/11/24/us-ukraine-crisis-crimea-novak...

 

 

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 07:15 | 6830918 Brazen Heist
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Gee I wonder who did that.

Peace loving Ukies or Peace loving CIA soldiers? Take your pick.

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 07:55 | 6831009 Baby Bladeface
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Story of six months ago is what you now pour?

Go wallow in your unsold sprats.

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 18:40 | 6835007 BarkingCat
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And next election Ukrainians will be voting for a pro-Russia candidate. Mark my words.

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 07:16 | 6830921 SpanishGoop
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I read today or tomorrow.

I am sorry, but can it be today ?

 

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 07:12 | 6830906 vheissu
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Turkish Army Official Announcement: " Jet play had warned 10 times in  5 minutes to leave Turkish airspace. No response had been given, resulted in shooting the plane down."

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 07:53 | 6831003 dogismycopilot
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knowing the Turks, they were speaking in Turkish.

The Turkish PM has a shit eating grin on his face right. 

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 07:13 | 6830911 FredFlintstone
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Roast Turkey just in time for Thanksgiving?

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 07:15 | 6830912 Allen_H
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In the meantime, Yemen found time to build and improve their missile system:  http://en.farsnews.com/newstext.aspx?nn=13940903000714

Great for Yemen, suck it up KSA western terrorist rats.

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 07:18 | 6830923 nnnnnn
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TIME TO GRILL THE TURKEY

its thanks giving

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 07:50 | 6830992 Dakota Kid
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Yes, it looks like Putin might be eating Turkey for Thanksgiving.

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 10:25 | 6831689 J Jason Djfmam
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I am a dumbass.

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 07:18 | 6830924 falak pema
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Unintended consequences or Erdogan's riposte in name of Sunni alliance to Putin's Assadian put?

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 07:20 | 6830928 Deltagande
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My son just came up with a sharp comment.  From now on, he says, the russian bombers will have fighter escort.

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 07:24 | 6830932 Joe A
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Clever boy

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 07:24 | 6830933 lakecity55
Tue, 11/24/2015 - 07:33 | 6830935 nnnnnn
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turkey kinda missed the second world war

erdogay the georgian criminal half rat surely want to pep up his donkey based economy by sucking on nato jew dick

is this the pre taste of a nukes in your childrens mouth?

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 07:41 | 6830968 risk.averse
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n to the power of 6 said:

is this the pre taste of a nukes in your childrens mouth?

Let's all take a deep breath here and pause to remember that Turkey is a member of NATO. If Russia attacks Turkey, then under the alliance rules (damn those rules that have started so many wars!) the other NATO members will have to rush to Turkey's defence. Domino effect, bitchez

Tue, 11/24/2015 - 07:48 | 6830985 nnnnnn
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it slightly resembles the beginning of ww1  

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