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ISIS Oil Trade Full Frontal: "Raqqa's Rockefellers", Bilal Erdogan, KRG Crude, And The Israel Connection
"Effectively, we have been financially discriminated against for a long time. By early 2014, when we did not receive the budget, we decided we need to start thinking about independent oil sales” -- Ashti Hawrami, Kurdistan’s minister for natural resources
In June of 2014, the SCF Altai (an oil tanker) arrived at Ashkelon port. Hours later, the first shipment of Kurdish pipeline oil was being unloaded in Israel. “Securing the first sale of oil from its independent pipeline is crucial for the Kurdish Regional Government (KRG) as it seeks greater financial independence from war-torn Iraq,” Reuters noted at the time, adding that “the new export route to the Turkish port of Ceyhan, designed to bypass Baghdad's federal pipeline system, has created a bitter dispute over oil sale rights between the central government and the Kurds.”
A week earlier, the SCF Altai received the Kurdish oil in a ship-to-ship transfer from the The United Emblem off the coast of Malta. The United Emblem loaded the crude at Ceyhan where a pipeline connects the Turkish port to Kurdistan.
The Kurds’ move to sell crude independent of Baghdad stems from a long-running budget dispute. Without delving too far into the details, Erbil is entitled to 17% of Iraqi oil revenue and in return, the KRG is supposed to transfer some 550,000 bpd to SOMO (Iraq’s state-run oil company). Almost immediately after the deal was struck late last year, Baghdad claimed the Kurds weren’t keeping up their end of the bargain and so, only a fraction of the allocated budget was sent to Erbil during the first five months of the year.
This was simply a continuation of a protracted disagreement between Erbil and Baghdad over how much of the state’s crude revenue should flow to the KRG. For its part, Iraq has threatened to sue anyone that buys independently produced Kurdish oil. For instance, when The United Kalavrvta - which left Ceyhan last June - prepared to dock in Galveston, Texas a month later, a SOMO official told Reuters that Iraq’s foreign legal team was “watching closely the movement of the vessel and [was] ready to target any potential buyer regardless of their nationality.”
You get the idea. Erbil wants a bigger piece of the pie, Baghdad doesn’t want to give it to them, and so some time ago, the KRG decided to simply cut the Iraqi government out and export crude on its own. The dispute is ongoing.
(at an Erbil oil refinery, the Kurds stand guard)
Ok, so why are we telling you this? Recall that over the past several weeks, we’ve spent quite a bit of time documenting Islamic State’s lucrative black market oil trade. Earlier this month, Vladimir Putin detailed the scope of the operation in meetings with his G20 colleagues. "I’ve shown photos taken from space and from aircraft which clearly demonstrate the scale of the illegal trade in oil and petroleum products,” he told journalists on the sidelines of the G20 summit in Antalya. The very same day, the US destroyed some 116 ISIS oil trucks, an effort that was widely publicized in the Western media. In the two weeks since, Moscow and Washington have vaporized a combined 1,300 ISIS oil transport vehicles.
No one knows why it took the US 14 months to strike the convoys. The official line is that The Pentagon was concerned about “collateral damage”, but we doubt that’s the reason (for a detailed discussion of this, see here). Well now that the mainstream media have been forced to take a closer look at Islamic State’s main source of revenue (the group makes nearly a half billion a year in the illicit oil trade), we decided to take a closer look at exactly who is facilitating the transport of the stolen crude and where it ultimately ends up because you can be sure that the story you get from the major wires will be colored by a slavish tendency to avoid any and all “inconvenient” revelations. This is the fourth in a series of articles on the subject and we encourage you to review the first three:
- The Most Important Question About ISIS That Nobody Is Asking
- Meet The Man Who Funds ISIS: Bilal Erdogan, The Son Of Turkey's President
- How Turkey Exports ISIS Oil To The World: The Scientific Evidence
On Friday we highlighted an academic study by George Kiourktsoglou and Dr Alec D Coutroubis who took a look at tanker rates at Ceyhan around siginifant oil-related events involving ISIS. Here's what the researchers found:
In their words, "it seems that whenever the Islamic State is fighting in the vicinity of an area hosting oil assets, the 13 exports from Ceyhan promptly spike. This may be attributed to an extra boost given to crude oil smuggling with the aim of immediately generating additional funds, badly needed for the supply of ammunition and military equipment."
Now you can begin to see the connection. Ceyhan is the port from which Kurdish oil (technically "illegal" to let Baghdad tell it) is transported, and as Kiourktsoglou and Coutroubis note, "the quantities of crude oil that are being exported to the terminal in Ceyhan exceed the mark of one million barrels per day and given that ISIS has never been able to trade daily more than 45,000 barrels of oil, it becomes evident that the detection of similar quantities of smuggled crude cannot take place through stock-accounting methods." In other words, if ISIS oil was being shipped from Ceyhan, it would essentially be invisible.
Here's where things get interesting. A few weeks ago, Reuters released an exclusive report detailing how Erbil hides its crude shipments from Baghdad. Here are some of the details:
Most customers were scared of touching it with Baghdad threatening to sue any buyer. Large oil companies - including Exxon Mobil and BP - have billions of dollars worth of joint projects with Baghdad.
Some buyers took tankers to Ashkelon, Israel, where it was loaded into storage facilities to be resold later to buyers in Europe. Kurdish oil was also sold offshore Malta via ship-to-ship transfers helping disguise the final buyers and thus protect them from threats from Iraqi state firm SOMO.
It was a high stakes game. A ship would dock off Malta waiting for another to arrive to take a cargo to a final destination. Sometimes two ships would be sent - one sailing off empty and another full - to complicate cargo tracking.
"Everyone suddenly became a ship tracking expert. So we had to raise our game too ... But one thing was proven correct - when oil is out, it flows," said Hawrami.
Ok, so a scheme involving ship-to-ship transfers off the coast of Malta was used to get Kurdish crude to places like Israel. "Israeli refineries and oil companies imported more than 19m barrels of Kurdish oil between the beginning of May and August 11, according to shipping data, trading sources and satellite tanker tracking," FT reported last week. "That is the equivalent of about 77 per cent of average Israeli demand, which runs at roughly 240,000 barrels per day. More than a third of all of the northern Iraqi exports, which are shipped from Turkey’s Mediterranean port of Ceyhan, went to Israel over the period."
At this juncture, we begin to get an idea of what's going on here. Kurdish oil is already technically illegal and Turkey is happy to facilitate its trip to foreign buyers via Ceyhan. What better way for ISIS to get its own oil to market than by moving it through a port that already deals in suspect crude? Al-Araby al-Jadeed (a London-based media outlet owned by the Qatari Fadaat Media) claims to have obtained a wealth of information about the route to Ceyhan from an unnamed colonel in the Iraqi Intelligence Services. Here's their account:
The information was verified by Kurdish security officials, employees at the Ibrahim Khalil border crossing between Turkey and Iraqi Kurdistan, and an official at one of three oil companies that deal in IS-smuggled oil.
The Iraqi colonel, who along with US investigators is working on a way to stop terrorist finance streams, told al-Araby about the stages that the smuggled oil goes through from the points of extraction in Iraqi oil fields to its destination - notably including the port of Ashdod, Israel.
"After the oil is extracted and loaded, the oil tankers leave Nineveh province and head north to the city of Zakho, 88km north of Mosul," the colonel said. Zakho is a Kurdish city in Iraqi Kurdistan, right on the border with Turkey.
"After IS oil lorries arrive in Zakho - normally 70 to 100 of them at a time - they are met by oil smuggling mafias, a mix of Syrian and Iraqi Kurds, in addition to some Turks and Iranians," the colonel continued.
"The person in charge of the oil shipment sells the oil to the highest bidder," the colonel added. Competition between organised gangs has reached fever pitch, and the assassination of mafia leaders has become commonplace.
The highest bidder pays between 10 and 25 percent of the oil's value in cash - US dollars - and the remainder is paid later, according to the colonel.
The drivers hand over their vehicles to other drivers who carry permits and papers to cross the border into Turkey with the shipment, the Iraqi intelligence officer said. The original drivers are given empty lorries to drive back to IS-controlled areas.
Once in Turkey, the lorries continue to the town of Silopi, where the oil is delivered to a person who goes by the aliases of Dr Farid, Hajji Farid and Uncle Farid.
Uncle Farid is an Israeli-Greek dual national in his fifties. He is usually accompanied by two strong-built men in a black Jeep Cherokee.
Once inside Turkey, IS oil is indistinguishable from oil sold by the Kurdistan Regional Government, as both are sold as "illegal", "source unknown" or "unlicensed" oil.
The companies that buy the KRG oil also buy IS-smuggled oil, according to the colonel.
Now obviously that's a remarkable degree of detail, but regardless of whether you believe in "Uncle Farid" and his black Jeep Cherokee, the main point is that there are smuggling routes into Turkey and once the oil is across the border, it might as well be Kurdish crude because after all, it's all "illegal", "unlicensed" product anyway, just as we said above.
Next, Al-Araby al-Jadeed says a handful of oil companies (which they decline to identify) ship the oil from the Turkish ports of Mersin, Dortyol and Ceyhan to Israel.
Here's the alleged route:
While the graphic shows the crude going directly from Ceyhan to Ashdod, it's worth asking whether ISIS crude is also "laundered" (as it were) through the same Malta connection utilized by those smuggling "illegal" Kurdish crude (which also ends up in Israel). We ask that because as it turns out, Bilal Erdogan owns a Maltese shipping company. "The BMZ Group, a company owned by President Recep Tayyip Erdogan's son Bilal alongside other family members, has purchased two tankers in the last two months at a total cost of $36 million," Today's Zaman reported in September. "The tankers, which will be registered to the Oil Transportation & Shipping company in October -- an affiliate of the BMZ Group set up in Malta -- were previously rented to the Palmali Denizcilik company for 10 years."
Here's a look at recent port data from Ceyhan and Ashdod via Fleetmon.com (Malta-flagged oil vessels are highlighted).
Ceyhan
Ashdod
To be sure, all of this is circumstantial and there's all kinds of ambiguity here, but it seems entirely possible that Erdogan is knowingly trafficking in ISIS crude given what we know about Ankara's dealings with illegal Kurdish oil. Consider this from al-Monitor:
Details of the energy deals struck between Turkey and the KRG remain sketchy amid claims that Erdogan and his close circle are financially benefiting from them. According to Tolga Tanis, the Washington correspondent for the mass circulation daily Hurriyet who investigated the claims, Powertrans, the company that was granted an exclusive license to carry and trade Kurdish oil by Erdogan’s Cabinet in 2011, is run by his son-in-law Berat Albayrak. It didn’t take long for the notoriously litigious Erdogan to file defamation charges against Tanis.
Several Iraqi Kurdish officials who refused to be identified by name confirmed that Ahmet Calik, a businessman with close ties to Erdogan, had been granted the tender to carry Kurdish oil via overland by trucks to Turkey.
In other words, Erdogan is already moving illicit crude from the KRG (with whom Ankara is friendly by the way, despite the fact that they are Kurds) via a son-in-law and in large quantities. What's to say he isn't moving ISIS crude via the same networks through his son Bilal? Or perhaps through his other son Burak who Today's Zaman reminds us "also owns a fleet of ships [and] was featured in a report by the Sözcü daily in 2014 [when his] vessel Safran 1 was anchored in Israel's port of Ashdod." Here's a picture circulated on social media that purports to show Bilal Erdogan with ISIS commanders (because we do try at all times to be unbiased, we should also note that the men shown below could just be three regular guys with beards with no connection to any black flag-waving desert bandits):
Recep Tayip Erdogan's son "BILAL ERDOGAN" with his ISIS brothers #StopTurkeySuppportOfISIS pic.twitter.com/5IBfXeFo9w
— Dilxaz Sofiyan (@Dilxazsofi) September 20, 2014
Russian media claims the men are "ISIS leaders who it is [thought] participated in massacres in Syria’s Homs and Rojava, the Kurdish name for Syrian Kurdistan or Western Kurdistan."
One person who definitely thinks the Erdogans are trafficking in ISIS oil is Syrian Information Minister Omran al-Zoubi who said the following on Friday:
“All of the oil was delivered to a company that belongs to the son of Recep [Tayyip] Erdogan. This is why Turkey became anxious when Russia began delivering airstrikes against the IS infrastructure and destroyed more than 500 trucks with oil already. This really got on Erdogan and his company’s nerves. They’re importing not only oil, but wheat and historic artefacts as well."
And then there's Iraq's former National Security Adviser Mowaffak al-Rubaie who posted the following to his Facebook page on Saturday:
“First and foremost, the Turks help the militants sell stolen Iraqi and Syrian oil for $20 a barrel, which is half the market price."
Meanwhile, the US is preparing for an all-out ISIS oil propaganda war. As WSJ reported on Wednesday, "the Treasury [has] accused a Syrian-born businessman, George Haswani, who his a dual Syrian-Russian citizen, of using his firm, HESCO Engineering and Construction Co., for facilitating oil trades between the Assad regime and Islamic State." Why Assad would buy oil from a group that uses the cash at its disposal to wage war against Damascus is an open question especially when one considers that Assad's closest allies (Russia and Iran) are major oil producers. Of course between all the shady middlemen and double dealing, there's really no telling.
Ultimately we'll probably never know the whole story, but what we do know (and again, most of the evidence is either circumstantial, anecdotal, of largely qualitative) seems to suggest that in addition to providing guns and money to the FSA and al-Nusra, Turkey may well be responsible for facilitating Islamic State's $400+ million per year oil enterprise. And as for end customers, consider the following bit from Al-Araby al-Jadeed:
According to a European official at an international oil company who met with al-Araby in a Gulf capital, Israel refines the oil only "once or twice" because it does not have advanced refineries. It exports the oil to Mediterranean countries - where the oil "gains a semi-legitimate status" - for $30 to $35 a barrel.
"The oil is sold within a day or two to a number of private companies, while the majority goes to an Italian refinery owned by one of the largest shareholders in an Italian football club [name removed] where the oil is refined and used locally," added the European oil official.
"Israel has in one way or another become the main marketer of IS oil. Without them, most IS-produced oil would have remained going between Iraq, Syria and Turkey. Even the three companies would not receive the oil if they did not have a buyer in Israel," said the industry official.
Finally, you'll note that this is all an effort to answer what we called "the most important question about ISIS that no one is asking" - namely, "who are the middlemen?" As we noted more than a week ago, "we do know who they may be: the same names that were quite prominent in the market in September when Glencore had its first, and certainly not last, near death experience: the Glencores, the Vitols, the Trafiguras, the Nobels, the Mercurias of the world." Consider that, and consider what Reuters says about the trade in illicit KRG oil: "Market sources have said several trading houses including Trafigura and Vitol have dealt with Kurdish oil. Both Trafigura and Vitol declined to comment on their role in oil sales."
Similarly, FT notes that "both Vitol and Trafigura had paid the KRG in advance for the oil, under so-called 'pre-pay' deals, helping Erbil to bridge its budget gaps."
Indeed, when Kurdistan went looking for an advisor to assist in the effort to circumvent Baghdad, the KRG chose "Murtaza Lakhani, who worked for Glencore in Iraq in the 2000s, to assist finding ships."
"He knew exactly who would and who wouldn't deal with us. He opened the doors to us and identified willing shipping companies to work with us," Ashti Hawrami (quoted above) said.
Indeed. And given everything said above about the commingling of illegal KRG crude and illicit ISIS oil shipments, it's probably a foregone conclusion that these same firms are assisting in transport arrangements for Islamic State.
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for all the israel-firsters, the hagee-listeners, and the fake christians:
A person is not a Jew who is one only outwardly, nor is circumcision merely outward and physical. 29No, a person is a Jew who is one inwardly; and circumcision is circumcision of the heart, by the Spirit, not by the written code.
This will be your reward, you apostate israel-firsters:
Circumcise yourselves to the LORD, circumcise your hearts, you people of Judah and inhabitants of Jerusalem, or my wrath will flare up and burn like fire because of the evil you have done-- burn with no one to quench it.
say bye-bye to apostate israel and america.
Israel's loyal sons and daughters in the Holy Land have nothing to repent. It is the rulers of the Gentiles---and their hangers-on who are Jews in name only, Soros, Yellen, Bernanke and their ilk---who will at last need to choose between accepting the dominion and Law of the Lord of Israel, the One Lord, or being the target of His vengeance against them for persecuting Israel.
May it please Him to see the United States fall, and quickly, that the nations may live and His Kingdom might come soon.
Israel will not die. She will live and recount the deeds of her Lord.
Niall
Just wondering if archaeologists find more evidence of peoples that occupied the "Holy Land" prior to Israel and the same land claimed by Mohamed (probably when he was smoking something real good), will the Israelis and Muslims give the land back to them ?
Or like Constantine, will orders be sent out to destroy evidence that contradicts the negotiated story.
I got bad news for ya bub, the lord called their leaders sons of vipers (indicative of who their real lord was) and they would have to make him their "lord" for him to be their lord. Your kind of psycopathic "Israel can do no wrong" mentality is dangerous. Your kind would have butchered the prophets that were told to go tell Israel how peckered up they were in the Old Testament.
The ONLY way to the Father is through the Son. When I see some of that going on over there, then I'll believe you might hava a point.
No thanks. The same Rev. Hagee crap the Free Republic cuckservatives lap up. They love Bibi who helped spring Jonathan Pollard.
I will stick with Putin an dthe Russians. Russia has been Christian for 1,100 years except for that 80 year period when outsiders from NYC, London, Germany who were non-Christians took over Russia and murdered 25 million Christians.
As far as Jesus and Israel. He smashed their temoples and they sold him out. They lied about it to blame the Romans. Even Jesus was not crazy about them.
wrong, oh, Pharisee.
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2013/02/09/anti-semitism-is-a-trick-a-brief...
http://www.sweetliberty.org/issues/hoax/scofield.htm
'In his 2008 book, The Rise of Israel: A History of a Revolutionary State , Jonathan R. Adelman describes the crucial support Israel receives from Christian fundamentalists as "totally fortuitous." The incredible career of the man who wrote "the Bible of Fundamentalism," however, casts considerable doubt on that assertion.
Two years after Scofield’s reported conversion to Christianity in 1879, the Atchison Patriot was less than impressed. Describing the former Atchison resident as the "late lawyer, politician and shyster generally," the article went on to recount a few of Scofield’s "many malicious acts." These included a series of forgeries in St. Louis , for which he was sentenced to six months in jail.
Being a "born again" preacher, however, did not preclude Scofield from becoming a member of an exclusive New York men’s club in 1901. In his devastating biography, The Incredible Scofield and His Book, Joseph M. Canfield comments, "The admission of Scofield to the Lotos Club, which could not have been sought by Scofield, strengthens the suspicion that has cropped up before, that someone was directing the career of C. I. Scofield."
That someone, Canfield suspects, was associated with one of the club’s committee members, the Wall Street lawyer Samuel Untermeyer. As Canfield intimates, Scofield’s theology was "most helpful in getting Fundamentalist Christians to back the international interest in one of Untermeyer’s pet projects – the Zionist Movement."
Others, however, have been more explicit about the nature of Scofield’s service to the Zionist agenda. In "Unjust War Theory: Christian Zionism and the Road to Jerusalem," Prof. David W. Lutz claims, "Untermeyer used Scofield, a Kansas city lawyer with no formal training in theology, to inject Zionist ideas into American Protestantism. Untermeyer and other wealthy and influential Zionists whom he introduced to Scofield promoted and funded the latter’s career, including travel in Europe ."
http://www.israelshamir.net/shamirReaders/english/Cathail--Scofield-Zion...
' To begin to understand the hoax...
The 'belief' was injected into our Christian minds as babes that "In the end times Jesus will return to reign on earth for a thousand years of PEACE" (after which, Satan will once again be released, which makes NO sense at all anyway).
To realize that this story runs on a perfectly parallel path with the Talmudic political program of World Dominion -- under the rule of MAN, who refers to himself as "the chosen"; to realize that the story is one and the same is startling to say the least.
That parallel path is not intended to clash, conflict, or cross at some junction, but to so slowly and subtly merge together that we will simply open our eyes one day to the awareness that we are on the same path with two separate destinations in mind.
http://www.sweetliberty.org/issues/hoax/scofield.htm
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http://www.mintpressnews.com/isis-israel-iraq-and-syria-its-all-part-of-...
http://www.counterpunch.org/2015/10/12/us-caught-faking-it-in-syria/
(Watch the below even if ye ignore the above, and know that you have been *deceived*)
http://youtu.be/QphxGBXiA-M
Its looking more and more the USA is turning a blind eye. That makes them guilty as hell.
love for profit hurts sometimes
They really don't care how many suffer or die as long as they get theirs.
*Don't be surprised if tomorrow we find out that most of that oil is sold to Ukraine.
"sold to Ukraine."
thats not possible they dont have money
IMF have them covered.
lucky russia got rid of ukraine - looks like a loss, is actually a win - win
eu dont not realized yet what they are dealing with
Ukraine will arrive very late to the EU party and all that will be left is some dried out French cheese and half empty champagne glasses. The Dutch bouncer will let them in and then lock the door behind as he goes home to his husband and their adopted muslim kid.
When you understand how Mossad works this article makes complete sense.
The Rothschilds own the media and that little man David De Rothschild who looks so innocent in reality makes Hitler look like a saint.
That's why the legacy media (News, CNN etc) hate the Internet because it bypasses their fabicated crap served up by Rothschild owned Reuters and AAP.
While the Jewish state of Israel hides behind the ancient legacy of the holocaust as told in their terms the real holocaust is happening today on Israel's doorstep in countries like Syria. And Israel is complicit, it is a rogue nation.
The money changers have no moral fibre - as Jesus once said "throw these money changers out of my house". Its long overdue that the illegal state of Israel is returned to the Palestiian people and the Jews, who have stolen Palestinian land, discover what it is like to be a refugee.
Israel is evil and leading us into WWIII.
People demonized McCarthy and now say he was right.
People demonize David Icke but I am sure one day they will say he is right.
They aren't human, they are hybrids, reptiles who married into the royal families of Europe.
I am now convinced of it.
What was McCarthy right about?
That even as far back as the 1950's, people were being put in place and the stage set so that a traitorous non-citizen communist America hater could some day be elected president. Someday has arrived.
McCarthy confused basic psychopathy with the two big invocations of Communism: China and the Soviet Union. Both of those nations' descent into self-reinforcing psychopathic hell-holes was more abrupt and far deeper than the slow, insidious descent of Western democracies. McCarthy recognized the danger of psychopaths, he just mis-attributed it to Mao and Stalin's flavor of communism rather than the psychopaths, themselves, that infected both governments from the top down. Ironic that psychopaths took down McCarthy right under his nose and he still couldn't figure out who the real enemy was. Worse yet, McCarthy - as good and noble as his intentions might have been at first - devolved into the worst kind of psychopath himself at the end and harmed America way more then he helped by empowering even more psychopaths in the U.S. government. I think McCarthy could have appreciated Lobaczewski's thoughts on psychopathy. McCarthy would have been even more impressed that the Communists were hunting down Lobaczewski and his colleagues to imprison or kill them and burn their research.
I grew tired of the academic arguments of whether communism is inherently evil or not. It doesn't matter - it's so easily and completely exploitable by psychopaths that the world will never see any kind of pure version of it. It's a God damn fantasy to envision any large Communist country that isn't infested with psychopaths. The mistake is to argue that Western democracy is somehow the opposite of Communism and inherently good and free from the exact, same infestation by psychopaths. It's more resistent, I'll give you that. And I would rather live in a slowly-decaying democracy than a slowly-decaying Communist state. But it is a fundamental, fatal mistake to suggest Western democracy is in any way immune to psychopaths. Denying our vulnerability and denying the existence of psychopaths in our government has always been a horrible, fatal mistake. It's unfortunate that our nation's founders were not more explicit in their warnings about our enemy.
The powers that be today have simply rinsed and repeated the worst aspects of McCarthyism and amplified them by an order of magnitude with their obsession with terrorism. It's not psychopaths we're suppose to be afraid of, it's terrorists! Brown kid brings a Radio Shack digital clock to school in a pencil box and they haul his ass down to the station in cuffs. McCarthyists would love that. I remember reading about old-timer ham radio operators being questioned by the FBI because they were speaking in foreign languages to someone overseas. They might be communists! The easiest way to tear a nation apart isn't to attack it militarily, the easiest way is to set the little people at each other's throats. Look no further than the U.S.'s psychopathic obsession with regieme change and the particularly cruel and inhuman way we instigate it under the pretext of 'helping'.
As long as people are so easily misdirected from the real and imminent threat of psychopaths among us and in our government to some cartoonish overseas villains du jour, then we are destined for the slaughterhouse. The absolutely most stupid, bullshit statement I ever heard is the rephrasing of Charles Baudelaire's quote "the finest trick of the devil is to persuade you that he does not exist." People NEED a devil - evil - to exist in some real, tangible form. Nobody is ever going to believe there is no such thing as the devil. The entire history of man revolves around evil people - psychopaths - convincing you that some OTHER guys are the devil and the source of all evil. People fall for it every time. I'm honestly thinking that we're never going to evolve beyond our current state of gullibility and naivety to be misdirected by psychopaths. Stupid people are easy to con - why would that change tomorrow, ten years from now or a hundred years from now? We're doomed to chase strawman devils for eternity while we get ass-raped by the psychopaths we put in charge of our own countries.
Also add to Rothchilds list of accomplices are the CIA/NSA/State Dept./Dept of Agriculture/ Health and Human Services/Dept. of Transportaion/ Illuminati/ Freeamsons/ Men in Black/ Men in Black helicopters/ Men in Black underwear/ 4H Club/ Rotary Club/ Knights of Columbus/ Photography Club/ Coupon Club/ Wooden Clubs and assorted other clubs too much to mention.
For the tenth time the Rothschilds do not own Reuters, why do you repeat this bullshit, and why do people upvote it as if it were true?
Reuters is owned by Thomson Reuters, which in turn is a public company on the NYSE and majority owned by Woodbridge Corporation, a Canadian Company. That company is majority owned by the Thomson family who are WASPS. David Thomson is Chairman of Thomson Reuters.
http://thomsonreuters.com/en/about-us/board-of-directors.html
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Woodbridge_Company
Update - LOL - I see, facts just do not matter if it distracts from the story.
Looks like the guy is Rothschild's buddy:
https://c1.staticflickr.com/3/2751/4195205298_87b771f8e3_b.jpg
As of October 2012, Thomson is listed as one of the wealthiest people in the world with an estimated net worth of 22.2 billion.[2] With an estimated net worth of around $23.0 billion Cdn as of 2010, Thomson and his family are the richest in Canada and 22nd richest in the world according to the Bloomberg Billionaires Index.[2] Previously, Thomson was listed as the 17th richest in the world by Forbes.[1] $37 billion as of November 2015.
Past ownership is not the point. To be clear: I did not say that the Thomsons are not NWO Globalists, clearly they are. They are also active in Bilderberg.
Their Canadian media outlets are not at all critical of TPP.
All I said was that Reuters is not owned by the Rothschilds, yet this dude keeps copy/pasting it after being corrected several times.
I think you're on to something.
Yep. 10 out of 10 for this Tylers.
The dirty innards of ISIS & Erdogan's Turkey on display for all to see...
Yes. If you cut the tail it might grow back but take out the head, that's a step in the right direction. now follow the money to the top and exterminate the real criminals.
My guess is Putin is going to concentrate his bombing missions along the Turkish Syrian boarder where the oil is smuggled to choke off funds and supplies to ISIS. I can only imagine the absolute insane anger of those that benefit from the operation and what their reaction will be. "Fuck with my money you fuck with my emotions"(quote from Friday)
Putin will cut off their money, He doesn't care what Turkey or the USA thinks. He will go into Iraq and clean out ISIS there too. Then he will build a pipeline across both countries. Then he will be in charge. When they see him, they will say "Yes Sir."
I sure hope Russia, the Iraqis and Hezbollah can help Iraq rebuild their country and throw the evil scum out. They need to take back those oil fields from the Kurds too. The Kurds are in bed with the ZWO.
Sounds like a reasonable strategy to me.
All those "moderate rebels" that we keep hearing about from the liars Obola and Cameron - but who are actually "hardline terrorists" and "mercs" - will be up in poop street.
Tyler just broke that down like a Boss, I expect this will be being picked and used as source material all over the net. Maybe a few "journalists" will read it and learn something. It's a dangerous story too, good work. Might as well criticize while we still can.
I think this article has made me realize that I want nothing to do with any oilfield work again and I don't really care how much money it is. I've spent too much time in that industry I think I have been oilfield in this country even if it was just a briefly for meetings, certs whatever and there is something dark, dangerous, shady and preternaturally evil about every damn one of them. Wherever the black crap resides hell will follow and the most evil of men are sure to be in charge.
Do you think evil men who are used to making millions and billions of dollars and being in control of millions and billions of people are going to stop being evil because of a little skirmish somewhere in the world?
Ha!
"Do you think evil men ....are going to stop being evil because of a little skirmish somewhere in the world? "
Well... no... but it sure is nice to see the rats scrambling when you shine the light...
Americans need to look at the world through different perspectives.Use alternative media and open up your minds:
http://russia-insider.com/en
Great,..perhaps ZH is joining the ranks of whistle blower sites.
Resource-free israel stealing the oil of other nations? Gosh, color me surprised.
Dear genius world leaders and other bomb droppers.
Please don't destroy the oil. Us regular people need that shit.
Never met a clean barrel of oil.
Never will. Anywhere
Yes you have. It's called Canadian oil and Russian oil.
Google "ethical oil."
Tyler. Will you PLEASE stop blaming everything bad on "Zionists?"
IS would find a way to get their oil to market without the help of a single Israeli. Only some of the IS oil makes it to Ashdod, and not much of it stays in Israel. By your own admission the oil is bound for the debt-ridden countries of the EU, too cheap to pay a fair price for Russian oil.
The real enemies of humanity have no God but money, and if anything hate the Jews most of all the civilized nations of the earth. Anti-semitism is their oldest disinformation campaign still running. The Jews in Israel or anywhere else have nothing to gain from Gentile bankrolling of the Islamic State, and plenty to lose.
Niall
Keeping the middle east in turmoil does not hurt Israel. The money changers are now Central Bankers and "Investment Banks".
And yes, I know that is just a coincidence.
K
Kayman,
The usury racket is very much a Gentile enterprise.
I don't know how you define a Jew, but only a small minority of investment bankers even in the US would even qualify for an Israeli passport.
None at all view the Law God handed down to Moses on Mount Sinai as anything but slave morality.
At best, Israel is regarded as just another usury farm. Israel racked up a huge national debt more honestly than most, acquiring the wherewithal to defend herself. The so-called military aid from Uncle Sugar doesn't even cover the interest.
The uranium for Israel's nuclear program had to be begged off South Africa, at the time still free, and one of the few real allies Israel ever had.
What Israel is actually owed for Jewish property stolen or destroyed by the Nazis would clear the debt and leave plenty over for a small sovereign wealth fund.
If you believe Israel will ever get that money, much less that the Jews run the world, I have the co-ordinates of a cave full of Nazi gold to sell you.
Elders of Zion, if you're out there---hurry up and take over the world. If you leave it to the Gentiles there may soon not be a world to take over.
"What Israel is actually owed for Jewish property stolen or destroyed by the Nazis would clear the debt and leave plenty over for a small sovereign wealth fund."
Sounds like a money grubber to me. You don't give any thought or care to people that died. No, just the money.
While we are reminiscing, let's remember the holomodore and all the other murders commited by Jewish Bolsheviks. Let's remember how these same murderers tried to subvert Europe and ignited two world wars due to their conspiring against European peoples. Let's remember all the innocents murdered by ethnic Jewish organized crime. Let's remember even up to today all the young European women kidnapped, drugged, and made to work as sex slaves in Eastern Europe and even within the Jewish State of Israel.
And, no, we Europeans will not bow to your level to ask for reparations as you would. We simply demand and take actions to put an end to your evil.
Sounds like you do nothing except make Jew-hating comments all day, every day on here. Implicating a religion and race based on nothing. He didn't say anything about how many Ukrainians collaborated with Hitler, but it was what, ALL of them right? And pretty much all Lithuanians, Croats, Hungarians, Romanians, and of course Germans. And most Poles. I'm going to just go ahead and assume you belong to one of those people, and here's my advice: You already killed all the Jews in your country. It's not your problem anymore. Get a life and find something better to do than spending 24/7 writing nazi propaganda on the internet.
" At the Versailles Peace Conference in 1919 Dr. Weizmann had declared, "The Bible is our mandate", and the words sounded good to Western ears. This event showed what they meant, and the same words were repeated by the Zionist leaders in Palestine thirty years after Dr. Weizmann used them.
The massacre at Deir Yasin was an act of "observance" of the ancient "statutes and commandments", including the relevant passage in Deuteronomy,
"When the Lord thy God shall bring thee into the land whither thou goest to possess it, and shall cast out. . . seven nations greater and mightier than thou. . . then thou shalt utterly destroy them; thou shalt make no covenant with them, nor show mercy unto them",
and the related passage,
"thou shalt save alive nothing that breatheth, but thou shalt utterly destroy them".
There are seven Arab states today, and each of them has its share of the fugitives of 1948, who for eight years now have been a living reminder to them of the common future fate with which Zionism threatens them under the ancient Law."
http://www.sweetliberty.org/issues/israel/zionist2.html
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http://www.alternet.org/world/how-israel-covers-its-ugly-racial-holy-war
Great post. I'm glad I made it far enough through the trash to read something sane and intelligent here.
talk about downvote!
Oh Niall of the Gallach:
http://www.jesusneverexisted.com/chosen-people.html
http://henrymakow.com/2014/09/Anti-Gentilism-Came-before-Anti-Semitism.html
http://www.sweetliberty.org/issues/israel/zionist2.html
Consider that you... May be wrong.
Wrong all the way down.
Ha ha ha.
No proof whatsoever.
Read it again..."a company"..."...a general"..."a place"... Etc etc etc.
You couldn't go to the UN or a court with this because there is NO EVIDENCE. Sounds good but it's just a theory.
You couldn't take this to the UN right now because they and their Saudi human rights council are busy crucifying a man for 1/1000 of the disobedience that is contained in this article...... Troll.
Itsthetiming
Of course you couldn't take it to a court or the UN.
You can't see the forest for the trees, especially, when you are blind.
Theory?
Bombs hitting trucks and installations are.....a theory?
Ya know, oil don't deliver itself. No mind games from ISIS, ISIL, PIESIL, The US-SIL, USSR-SIL - have ever managed to MOVE oil from one area to another - voila~ prestidigitation!!!!!
WAKE UP FOOL....90% OF THIS KABUKI WITH BOMBS IS BECAUSE OF OIL, AND IT'S MOVEMENT.....
JESUS H. CHRIST.....WAKE UP...and yeah...the 10% is the RELIGIOUS STAR FUCKERS (nod to RQ)
The other unasked question is, "After they trade the oil for money, who the hell is selling them all the weaponry?".
"who the hell is selling them all the weaponry?"
I have no evidence for this but the trucks that haul oil north just might have, maybe, a teensy-weensy, tiny, itsy-bitsy chance of carrying weapons back from Turkey.
Now for the Trolls, this is just shit-house speculation on my part because there is also the chance that China is transporting the oil out on night flights on transport planes leased from Martians. After all, there is no evidence it is not happening.
K
"[...] the trucks that haul oil north just might have, maybe, a teensy-weensy, tiny, itsy-bitsy chance of carrying weapons back from Turkey."
I think you're right. Recall that convoy Russian jets bombed yesterday which ended up in flames.
Erdogan bellyached about it in a press interview claiming it was "humanitarian aid" (ho-ho). Too bad. Video pix showed the trucks had crates of shells and other weaponry. Some of the shells appeared to have Ukraine/Cyrillic markings on them.
me has the impression that all these puppet players and masterminds are getting lost in their own clusterfuck
and we (all minor beings with just a wage or less) will have to pay for that and that makes me very very angry
That's the impression this site wants you to get, so you'll get angry. That's what they're selling here. Conspiracy theories and anger. There are no masterminds. Just a clusterfuck. No one is in control. If anyone was in control, it wouldn't look like this.
I need a shower after just reading this shit.
I just hope Putin can make it all go away.
It like trying to figure out who is fucking who on a Mexican soap.
LOL Vegas +200 for the Mexican soap quip
Veterens Today makes a case that
[Turkey did this all during the Bush era, having cut a deal with US “manager” Paul Bremmer, a deal VT insiders helped manage for Bremmer and that I was witness to personally.
The game involved playing Baghdad against Erbil and bleeding off oil revenues from the Kirkuk Oil Fields, largest oil reserves in the world, as they moved by pipeline through Kurdistan and into Turkey. There they were offloaded onto American tankers in the Mediterranean where these huge ships, largest in the world, were filled with oil but it was never recorded and the oil never paid for.
Turkey got their cut, certain Turkish naval officers became fabulously wealthy while the Bush cabal poured billions into their Cayman offshore accounts managed by Bain Capital.]
Bremmer is a key person in 9-11. There is a good video on Youtube that connects all the dots including the companies involved.
DictatorZIOship needs to be taken down asap.
Or.....the US is buying the oil AND funding ISIS with the cheap oil....Remember the article here on ZH about all those oil tankers sitting off Galveston Texas. Ain't the Bush's from Texas?
Dubya is from Riyadh. Great investment on the part of the Saudis.
No, I'd say $20 per barrel is actually the "true" market price.
"the Treasury [has] accused a Syrian-born businessman, George Haswani, who his a dual Syrian-Russian citizen, of using his firm, HESCO Engineering and Construction Co., for facilitating oil trades between the Assad regime and Islamic State."
"Why Assad would buy oil from a group that uses the cash at its disposal to wage war against Damascus is an open question..."
Is that the best they can do...LMAO Even with a lot of this being circumstantial, qualitative etc., the evidence and pieces of the puzzle will start filling in once people know in general how it is likely to be going down. This is going to get really embarrassing..... or more so anyway.
Hesco is a player and note connectins to Dick Cheney's home state. Do not forget the Clinton connection. Sometime next week more will become available.
Kudos to the Tylers for reminding us what investigative journalism is (or used to be). Any MSM reporters reading this will be crying into their beer because they aren't allowed to touch anything that doesn't meet with the approval of the ubermensch.
Cooooooooooooorrrrrect!
One of the many reasons this site is a must daily for me......
Well done ZH!
Well, there are unanswered questions. Best way to fnd the answers is for Putin to keep destroying isis oil and see who squirms the most.
ZH should now move to Moscow and set up in the bunker before Mossad gets wind of this...
Weren't the Turks complicite with the Iranians in the oil for gold scandal, while Iran was under sanctions?
The Turks would stick their cocks up their own asses, if there was a profit in it.
They just did...and it hurts.
they were, guess u missed it
sedat peker
I wouldn't be surprised to see a lot more of the pipeline networks and the remainder of the refineries in northern Iraq disappear under heavy bombing raids.
C'mon, to believe a tribe member would seek to make some shekels off both sides of a confrontation is just too far fetched.
What? the Rothschilds....oh yeah, forgot about them since they are never spoken of in MSM.
Wow! Tyler, you made me proud of you. I never thought you would re-draft and publish this article with the added "Israeli connection" I brought up in the comments of the first draft. Thank You!
I smelled a rat hidden in that original story, since much of the world's organized crime is tied to Israeli dual nationals in some way, shape, or form. It didn't take long to filter the internet to find a non-MSM source that was putting light to that connection. The info is out here, but the big media guys don't give a crap about the real story. I think ZH does, for the most part. At least we commentors can fill in the blanks at ZH without being censored or attacked.
You can't blame Zionists and/or Israeli's for everything; it is a morality problem found in each and everyone of us. People, like yourself, always sound like racists with all this nationality talks; it is a morality issue and always will be with mankind. It is why we need to be saved from our sin nature.
I don't blame these people for everything, but I do exercise my freedom to highlight criminals that have far too much cover. A freedom, many don't have the courage to exercise. That is a crime in itself, when victims are too afraid to speak up.
People of your ilk that give these criminals a blind pass is the morality problem. The disproportionate crimes relative to their numbers and the volume of free passes these criminals receive is disgusting to moral people. Justice is catching up to them again, just as it has over and over throughout history. History is a teacher. Obviously their memory and ability to learn is not equal to all the hype of such.
You may not blame Jews for every problem, but you certainly seem to blame all Jews for whatever some Jew does.
"Justice is catching up to them again, just as it has over and over throughout history"
"Obviously their memory and ability to learn is not equal to all the hype of such"
Keep wasting your breath, nazi. This time "they" have a state with second strike nuclear capability. What do you have?
wrong
http://youtu.be/QphxGBXiA-M
There is no such thing as 'sin.' It is an abstraction.
Only 'harm' is real.
Drastic measures need to be taken and soon......
http://beforeitsnews.com/global-unrest/2015/11/cowardly-isiss-terrorist-...
2 words - Clinton Foundation
I know this is just dreaming on my part, but wouldn't it be delicious that certain Turkish businesses paid Clinton for a speech or "donated" to the Foundation for "charitable" purposes.
You know- dirty money- there's got to be a Clinton nearby.
Part of the Effluvium....but not all.
The Cuntion FoundationOfShit is shit.
So are those two cuntwads....
An old word needs to be dusted off, examined and used. Treason.
The treasonous politicians
The treasonous press.
It's a crime of the state by all who induldge, turn a blind eye or profit knowlingly.
You can't be found guilty of treason if you are not charged with treason. Dirty, untaxed, nearly untraceable money can by a lot of cover.
The NY FED knows the money trails for all of this according to a very recent interview between C. Austin-Fitts and Greg Hunter. This is all NATO shenanigans and the reason for war is for money and control and because, for the psychopath, it is all fun and games and the sheep are all the worse for it.
Perhaps Turkey would benefit from a civil war.
yes
Also, we need to be careful here as well; remember "Problem, Reaction and Solution". If the people causing the problem have a solution because of another and real goal, cashless society, then you blow up a problem, engage the propaganda machines to get people to demand the desired solution, which the problem producers conveniently have the planned solution and the sheep are fleeced of more liberties than before.
Ho hum - another day, another half-dozen articles in which ZH uncritically carries water for Moscow. NO skepticism or modulation at all.
It's enough to make you wonder who pays the bills around here.
Stick around, Mr. 9 weeks troll....ya might learn sumptin in dat puddin head of yours....
until then...pay your own bills....
Islamic State's $400+ million per year oil enterprise... okay got that alot of guns and bullets.
Now who is selling them those because someone is ... hint:- It ain't Russia, so who then?
They should tax all these f##kers and set up a foundation for independent journalists
in warzones,so if they get targeted like that Serena Shim a year ago,at least their families
will be taken care.I remember an RT crew was targeted by a helicopter in the Ukraine,which
fed the data back to an artillery unit,and blamo.They had only been there a few minutes and
their vehicle was clearly marked.I know,both sides are guilty of war crimes in any conflict.
Still,this is the first time there has been mass migration on this scale.It must get kinda cold over
there in the Winter.Funny how everyone was getting along okay until after the Sochi Olympics...
Something must have clicked somewhere's......
Well observed. The first cracks appeared after Yukos was broken up and not sold to Exxon. After Khodorkovsky was released from prison around the time of the Sotchi games, it all started in earnest.
I believe Khodorkovsky's "behind the Kremlin's back" deal was with Chevron. It was Exxon that informed Putin who took action. Until the recent (post Ukraine) hostilities, Exxon has had preferred partner status for new exploration projects in Russia.
Khodorkovsky zio
optnocks, please, if you know anything illuminate the rest of us. i have found it perplexing. XOM & rosneft were happy in the russian artic, the kara sea (huge & a huge loss for xom unless xom believes it may gain All), when suddenly everything went to shit & the ceo of xom went home & putin issued a release all was well...1) did xom get a call telling them to jettison the deal, or 2) did xom know about all the IS oil & that the price was going down the toil..wet, or was xom in on it...or did putin know all of the above & set about setting his game in plan??
This about as fucked up as FUCKED UP GETS!!
Here is an interesting side note from Wikipedia... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Belial
Meanwhile: Russian S-400 missiles turn most of Syria into no-fly zone, halt US air strikes.- Military sources confirm that neither the US, Turkey or Israel have any real experience in contending with the Russian S-400, which uses multiple missile variants to shoot down stealth aircraft, UAVs, cruise missiles and sub-strategic ballistic missiles. Its operational range for aerodynamic targets is about 250 km and for ballistic targets 60 km. The S-400 can engage up to 36 targets simultaneously.
-DEBKAfile’s-
The US had the plane shot down so they could see this system activated
so they did, now what?
stay tuned
Good debka article, Oh my, it is an Israeli publication
Ya, and a darn good one too.
Debka is propaganda first of all which means it is true only when the truth suits it.
Just consider that maybe, just maybe: antiaircraft systems like the s400 account for what happens when they are 'turned on.' Its kinda important to plan for attacks on the batteries.
Dumb fucker.
US is drilling their bombers... I say more ship bourne S300 at sea
iran choose not to hit american plane.. just forced it to land..
http://www.iran-daily.com/News/131861.html
macain flight perhaps?? welcome abroad...fucking lunatics
How much purer is Saudi oil being that is being sent to everywhere?
considering their hand in all this.
just sayn
Russia is about as Christian as America, except with msybe a little less hypocracy
how would you know ?
Robbing others .... That's what Turkey has always been either doing or trying to do ever since they became a country.
http://search.yahoo.com/search?p=laint+talikn+about+love+van+halen&ei=UT...
ZH needs to be careful, after all guess who runs all the WWW plumbing in the USA
Jesuits, from what I hear.
‘The Israel Connection’
X-ians are America’s Enemy #1
Kurdish oil good oil ISIS oil bad oil Oils well that ends well.
Thanks ZH. Nice to know that after honking at your readership to buy gold for the last few years, and seeing how well that worked out, we can conveniently blame islamic terrorism, european recidivism AND the dip in commodities squarely on the Jews.
Way to Ty that one together, Adolf
So the rhetorical, or the basic rhetorical trick here is conflating the actions of the Israeli government under Nuttyahoo with the set of all 'Jews'.
This way, nothing Israel the government and state coercive power ever do may be criticized- just keep sending money and zealots.
On the other hand, posters using such rhetorical parlour tricks will emphasize that so conflating 'jews' with 'israel' is grossly "anti-semitic," at least when making this claim is polemically convenient.
Zionist propaganda and even let's say 'Jewish Apologetics' is remarkable for its cognitive dissonance.
Israel cant do any wrong because its a jewish state so criticism is hate and hate only so invalid - but it is hate to 'blame jews' for the actions of Israel.
I dont junk comments like this because I dont think the writer intends to be dishonest.
But the notion that criticism of the political entity known as Israel is invalid ab initio because any criticism of it is Judeophobic is logically invalid, and often the fallacy is used merely to suppress speech that really ought to be taking place in the open daylight: Jewish power, privilege, networking, and the impact that an extremist Likudnik minority can consequently wield.
Israel has become a lever by which 2 million people can move the world, mainly through us foreign policy capture.
This power needs to be "rolled back" peacefully and legally or these warmongering racist twats will keep setting fires.
Study the eschatology.
http://www.ahavat-israel.com/eretz/state
And the position papers of Likudniks
http://www.counterpunch.org/2015/10/12/us-caught-faking-it-in-syria/
http://leaksource.info/2015/01/17/the-yinon-plan-greater-israel-syria-ir...
http://www.historycommons.org/context.jsp?item=western_support_for_islam...
And see why what has been happening is a compendium of motives and olans both current and ancient.
http://www.iamthewitness.com/books/Archibald.Maule.Ramsay/The.Nameless.W...
http://fellowshipoftheminds.com/2015/11/12/europes-refugee-crisis-and-th...
http://www.iamthewitness.com/books/Archibald.Maule.Ramsay/The.Nameless.W...
So the Turks, who are no friends of Israel, sell ISIS oil and shoot down a Russian jet. The house of Saud finances Sunni maniacs and Iran finances Shia maniacs and both spew Jew-hatred and declare that they will wipe out Israel and all Jews as well (not just the Likud). But somehow, Israel is responsible for Iran's as well as ISIS's hatred of the West, huh? Well isn't that just neat and tidy. Amazing you can blame this "lever" of a few million people for the actions of hundreds of millions of Muslims. Almost as if the Muslims had no free will of their own. That is rather racist. Don't you give the Islamists credit for being able to hatch their own plans? Or do you just think Jews are so smart that nothing can happen without a Jew hiding behind it?
By the way, what about the little rhetorical trick you just pulled when you jumped in one paragraph from "criticism of the political entity known as Israel" to "Jewish power, privelege, networking..." ..? It seems pretty clear that you entwine those two things far beyond the right-wing Likud party in Israel; the rest of the paragraph acts as an accusation against all Jews. And you're accusing me of pulling a rhetorical trick? I'm just calling out what ZH is doing here when they say "Israel", i.e. accusing Jews of being responsible for Islamic terrorism -- and you are confirming it right there in what you wrote!
Surely you realize that Jews are the first people to be targeted by Islamic terror-- and Israeli Jews on a daily basis. It's insane and amazing, stupefying, that you could find a way to blame Jews for the ultimate enemy of Judaism. It shows the total depths of irrationailty that antisemites will sink to.
If it's not Jew-hating to blame Jews for the actions of Israel, as you say -- then the very least you could do is blame Muslims for the actions of ISIS, Iran, Saudi Arabia, Iran, Turkey, Boko Haram, Al Shabab and Al Qaeda. Instead of trying to blame Jews for all of them as well. Perhaps Jews should also be blamed for both Hitler and Stalin and the Spanish Inquisition. And for causing the holocaust. Which didn't really happen because Jews made it up. Oh but it should have happened, right? See, I understand your mind. What you have is a mono-maniacal, singular absolute fixation with Jews in which they can substitute for the cause of any problem on earth. If there were no Jews, you would have to invent them to explain all these various evils. Yet these evils all happen on their own, by the free will of other parties. The desire or psychological need to blame them all on Jews is an attempt to find some order in this chaos. Yet it would be equally ridiculous to blame Christians, Muslims, Buddhists, Jehovahs Witnesses or some cargo cult from Tahiti.
This is the textbook definition of antisemitism and why it's such an unusual mania and odd form of racism: It is obsessive, all-consuming, and unquenchable. It seeks the Jew in every situation and tries to make Jews the locus of blame for everything. It believes Jews ARE a conspiracy. And so -- it leads to hate and violence. That's why it's extremely dangerous.
Lucky, nothing I've read from Raymond, and I read all of his posts, has even come close to saying that Jews are responsible for all the world's evils. His position, one I heartily agree with, is that Israel has become a lever by which 2 million Likud voters can move the world, mainly through us foreign policy capture and the Jewish power, privilege and networking which in turn enable that capture. Said power needs to be openly discussed and democratically and legally rolled back.
I continue to learn at your feet Raymond!
Great research.
#alwaysnevertoblame
' Dr. Weizmann then had called "the terror in Palestine" the "old evil in a new and horrible guise".
April 9, 1948 showed what he meant, and in particular why he called it the old evil. On that day the "activists", the terror-and-assassination group of Zionism, "utterly destroyed" an Arab village in exact and literal fulfilment of "the Law" laid down in Deuteronomy (which, the reader will recall is the basic Judaic law but was itself an amendment of the original Mosaic law of the Israelites).
This was the most significant day in the entire story of Zionism. To the Arabs (who knew the Torah and "had known for two thousand years what you have fought two world wars to learn") it meant that the savage Law of Judah, devised by the Levites between 700 and 400 BC, was to be resurrected and imposed on them in full force and violence, with the support of the Christian West and of Communized Russia alike.
The symbolic massacre, they knew, was intended to show what would happen to all of them if they stayed. Thereon almost the entire Arab population of Palestine fled into the neighbouring Arab states.
The massacre at Deir Yasin was briefly reported in the West, for instance Time Magazine of New York said:
"Jewish terrorists of the Stern Gang and Irgun Zvai Leumi stormed the village of Deir Yasin and butchered everyone in sight. The corpses of 250 Arabs, mostly women and small children, were later found tossed into wells".
At the Versailles Peace Conference in 1919 Dr. Weizmann had declared, "The Bible is our mandate", and the words sounded good to Western ears. This event showed what they meant, and the same words were repeated by the Zionist leaders in Palestine thirty years after Dr. Weizmann used them.
The massacre at Deir Yasin was an act of "observance" of the ancient "statutes and commandments", including the relevant passage in Deuteronomy,
"When the Lord thy God shall bring thee into the land whither thou goest to possess it, and shall cast out. . . seven nations greater and mightier than thou. . . then thou shalt utterly destroy them; thou shalt make no covenant with them, nor show mercy unto them",
and the related passage,
"thou shalt save alive nothing that breatheth, but thou shalt utterly destroy them".
There are seven Arab states today, and each of them has its share of the fugitives of 1948, who for eight years now have been a living reminder to them of the common future fate with which Zionism threatens them under the ancient Law.
The passive condonation of this deed by Jewry as a whole showed more clearly than anything else the change which Zionism had wrought in the Jewish mind in a few years. Writing in 1933 (only fifteen years before Deir Yasin), Mr. Bernard J. Brown quoted the above passage from Deuteronomy as the reason for Arab fears, and added,
"Of course, the uncultured Arabs do not understand that the modern Jew does not take his bible literally, and that he is a kind and charitable person and would not be so cruel to his fellow-man, but he suspects that if the Jews bottom their claim to Palestine on the strength of the historic rights to that land, they can only do so on the authority of the Bible, and the Arab refuses to reject any part of it".
The Arabs were right and Mr. Brown was wrong; this enlightened Western Jew could not conceive, in 1933, that Zionism meant a full return to the superstition of antiquity in its most barbaric form.
Probably Deir Yasin remained an isolated incident only because its meaning was so clear that the Arabs left the country. Mr. Arthur Koestler is definite about this cause-and-effect. He was in Palestine and says the Arab civilian population, after Deir Yasin, at once fled from Haifa, Tiberia, Jaffa and all other cities and then from the entire country, so that "by May 14 [1948] all had gone save for a few thousand".
All impartial authorities agree about the intention and effect of Deir Yasin, and from April 9, 1948 no doubt remained about the governing force of the ancient Judaic Law on all future acts and ambitions of Zion. Deir Yasin explains the fear of the surviving Arab states today as fully as it explains the flight of the Palestinian Arabs.'
http://www.sweetliberty.org/issues/israel/zionist2.html
Theres no real question both turkey and israel have been buying oil from "isis" which is a us/israeli and saudi terrorist proxy force.
http://www.counterpunch.org/2015/10/12/us-caught-faking-it-in-syria/
Wonder of wonders that David Cohen, the responsible Treasury undersecretary ( working under Jack Lew, of course) has been unable to shut down the banking channels even with all the resources of the us, turkey, and interpol.
http://leaksource.info/2015/01/17/the-yinon-plan-greater-israel-syria-ir...
There are various actors and motives but the "Zionist" one as to Syria is absolutely one of the two primary Deep State veins, the other being the unipolar/globalist Anglos. Significant overlap in these groups means that right now the 2 million people in a tiny foreign state and who re-elected Netanyahu, who is as dangerous and barbaric a world leader as has ever appeared, have in Israel and transnational Jewish/Zionists lobbies and organizations, are bent on many years of war using proxy terrorism and war crimes as SOP, for the purposes of making Israel a superpower, no matter the cost in American or Muslim or Syrian or Christian lives.
http://www.ahavat-israel.com/eretz/state
http://m.chabad.org/library/article_cdo/aid/361892/jewish/Ahavat-Yisrael...
http://fellowshipoftheminds.com/2015/11/12/europes-refugee-crisis-and-th...
Here wisdom is required. How does one get one's seeming opponents to understand that when the set of all X has massive and disproportionate power, a fraction of that X, 'Z' also can have predominant influence.
Do you actually understand, truly, the logical truth that claiming "most A are B" does not imply "most B are A?"
Likudniks, those Israelis and Jews and Zionists who support the ideas of Likud are, to use a facile but succinct term, "evil."
So, then, is mindlessly defending their grievous affronts to the G0D of the New Testament, and much more importantly - basic, acceptable notions of ethical behavior in our time.
Israel has no desire to be a superpower or control more territory.
It unilaterally gave up Gaza. It attempted to give up 99% of the west bank including East Jerusalem but Arafat refused. It conquered Sinai and southern Lebanon -- only to give them up for peace.
All Arab states routinely make statements that Israel and Jews should be destroyed. Israel never has (and never would) make a statement to that effect about another country. Let alone about Arabs as a race who constitute 20% of the Israeli population.
Your motivations are 100% racist and antisemitic. And to say that ISIS is an Israeli or Jewish proxy is absolutely insane. Sick. You know that Jews and Israelis have trained Kurdish fighters since the first Iraq war, right?
I suppose you'll find some way to make that fit with your Jews-taking-over-the-world scenario. Listen, Haji Mohammed, or David Duke or whoever you are. Your lies, hate and garbage are exactly why Jews need Israel and will never give it up. Reading what you write makes me want to go join the army over there. And the truth is -- they have a right to be left alone in their own country, without bending over and letting people like you exterminate them again.
http://www.abc.net.au/4corners/stories/2014/02/10/3939266.htm
You seem like an honest fella.
Has israel done no wrong to the Palestinian people?
If you say 'no' please know that you are batshit crazy.
Zionists whining about poor defenseless peace-cravin' Israel ask us to ignore the colonialist invasion, racism, and ethnic cleansing absolutely **presupposed** by the Zionist scheme. To create an ethnoreligious state in a land which was less than 8% Jewish obviously presupposed getting rid of those pesky muslim, and once 20% christian native population.
http://www.foreignpolicyjournal.com/2010/06/17/top-ten-myths-about-the-i...
For my part I think that you not only dont care about even trying to be fair or objective, you actually lack the capacity to be honest. Imo you repeatedly miscategorized the OP, then unpacked a suitcase full of hasbara non seqs.
If Jews as a group have huge influence on the us government, and they clearly do whether or not you want to punish people for so saying, that a dedicated minority of the overall jewish minority, ie the Netanyahu crazies, can wield crazy influence way beyond their numbers. For fuck sake look how congress bows and scrapes before netanyahu even after he insults the us president and diplomats over and over.
You simply dismiss all criticism with this magick word, 'antisemite' which allows you to never place any blame at all on israel's actions.
Hating the actual nazis, no one ever claims you really just hate germans, but decepticons like you want to claim that because Israel = 'the jews'. ( except when tou want to argue the opposite, right?) hating Likud (or jewish supremacists and ultra-nationalists like Bibi and Adelson) absolutely only means hating 'the joos'.
Its complete bullshit and tou have hereby been called on it. Arguably, you called yourself on it, bro.
I think you're the one mixing things up here. I'll try to clarify my position: Has Israel been fair to Palestinians 100% of the time? No. Have Palestinians tried to make peace with Israel, as opposed to holding out for it to be completely destroyed? No. Should Israel be demolished? No. Is Likud my party of choice? No. Do some Jews wield power in Washington/MSM/finance/media? Yes. Do they represent all Jews? No. Does Likud? No. Does Israel? No.
However, Likud are not Nazis. It is not a sane comparison. ISIS and the Iranian government -- and Putin's government as well -- are each in their own way much closer to the type of racist-fascism that defined Nazism. Come to think of it, perhaps that's why so many antisemites around here seem so fond of them.
You know who else are not Nazis? Americans. As much as the Russian press would like to have their people believe.
And when these conversations -- as with the poster above -- cross a line from "Israel..." to "Jewish power", that is leveling an extremely loaded historical term at a very small minority which has been persecuted as much or more than any other in history. "Jewish power" implies all sorts of things, and has been used to justify genocide. It's an attempt to take any situation with one Jew -- even an unproven one -- and then implicate Jews as a whole.
Nah, Likud is absolutely Nazi in its worldview.
Its just that when its jews doing the hating or the terrorism ir the attacking, why, its never, ever wrong. Theyre just special like that.
Zzzzz
http://mondoweiss.net/2015/05/netanyahu-palestinians-government
https://electronicintifada.net/blogs/ali-abunimah/how-israel-protects-it...
http://972mag.com/debunking-gaza-war-lies/95124/
What's that plank of wood doing in your eye, fella?
http://www.alternet.org/world/how-israel-covers-its-ugly-racial-holy-war
"Never Our Fault"
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2005/nov/16/israel2
Every murder, every war crime, every bew Jewish settlement, every Palestinian shot in cold blood or Arab home bulldozed - Israel is ever only 'defending itself' with these acts.
https://electronicintifada.net/blogs/ali-abunimah/how-israel-protects-it...
With Zionist Magick, every act that would be a horrendous crime if done by a non jew to a jew
https://electronicintifada.net/blogs/ali-abunimah/how-israel-protects-it...
Becomes a sacriment when a jew does it to a non jew
http://youtu.be/YSy6ENVAJlY
Why arent you crippled by shame and embarrassment?
Is it because non jews simply and literally are less human than jews are in your warped worldview?
http://www.bintjbeil.com/E/occupation/shahak.html
http://www.wrmea.org/1998-january-february/other-voices-israeli-discrimi...
http://imeu.org/article/discrimination-against-palestinian-citizens-of-i...
You bet it is, fella.
In rereading this your last para is key:
You think non jews simply have no right to ask whether the disproportionate financial, media, and political power of jews is 'good for the gentiles'
I once again call bullshit on an idea meant mainly to protect DISPROPORTIONATE AND DELETERIOUS jewish power per se. (Eg jewish heads if federal agencies involved in vanking or finance is absolutely wildly dispro to their numbers - the privileged minority declaring it 'hate' to examine their power is a cute trick, but its horseshit.
http://dissidentvoice.org/2014/09/does-jewishwhite-privilege-exist/
http://www.sweetliberty.org/issues/israel/zionist2.html
http://youtu.be/QphxGBXiA-M
Maybe you should direct some of your opprobrium toward Zionist extremist murderers? Just some of it??
I just looked at those links. If you believe the Jews were responsible for 9/11, you fall into the category of bonkers. Read this:
http://www.snopes.com/rumors/israel.asp
This horseshit story about Jews on 9/11 originated with genocidal Arab TV stations. While at the same time their own people were shouting death to america and cheering in the street all over the islamic world. How many terror attacks do they have to do against the west and against each other before you manage to believe they're perfectly capable of blowing themselves up in the name of their religion, without any help from anyone else? When was the last time a Jew blew himself up in a crowded restaurant?
http://youtu.be/LbkQddEDPs0
http://abcnews.go.com/2020/story?id=123885
http://www.todayscatholicworld.com/mossad-agents-911.htm
Facts are stubborn things
How to explain those dancing Israelis?
Why pretend they never existed! Post a link regarding something unrelated to the dancing israeli spies!
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2012/11/08/911-dancing-israelis-phony-lawsuit/
https://mastersofdeception.wordpress.com
http://www.bollyn.com/public/Solving_9-11_-_The_Deception_That_Changed_T...
https://wikispooks.com/wiki/9-11/Israel_did_it
And of course...
Saying the government if israel and its agents ran a false flag op in concert with cheney and elements of the us government us absolutely, positively NOT at all, or in any logical way, saying 'the jews' did it.
No matter how hard you keep trying to say so!!!
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2013/02/09/anti-semitism-is-a-trick-a-brief...
'Yet once again this incident teaches us something deeper: we can talk about anything in America; we can talk about crimes and drugs in the community; we can talk about how the president is abusing his power; we can talk about the Ku Klux Klan and former klansmen, but as soon as a goy mentions Jewish ascendancy and behavior, then all of a sudden he is an anti-Semite. Here is the funny thing. Nixon, during the conversation, declared that Life magazine, Newsweek, the New York Times, the Los Angeles Times, among other publications, are “totally dominated by the Jews.”
Jewish writer J. J. Goldberg declares in his book Jewish Power, “It is true that Jews are represented in the media business in numbers far out of proportion to their share of the population. Studies have shown that while Jews make up a little more than 5 percent of the working press nationwide—hardly more than their share of the population—they make up one fourth or more of the writers, editors, and producers in America’s ‘elite media,’ including network news divisions, the top newsweeklies and the four leading daily papers (New York Times, Los Angeles Times, Washington Post, and Wall Street Journal).”[30]
Jewish scholar Benjamin Ginsberg of the Johns Hopkins University made similar claims in his book Fatal Embrace: Jews and the Staes.[31] The book is even published by the University of Chicago Press. Yet, how is it that if a goyim just simply cites Ginsberg, he is therefore an anti-Semite?
In subsequent articles, we are going to ignore this anti-Semitic trick and present factual, historical, and reasonable cases. In the process, we are going to discover that Nazi Germany in particular was an anti-Christian movement and should never have been taken place. But it was largely a reaction to Jewish subversive activities. Had those subversive activities not happened, there would have probably been no Hitler in the 1930s.'
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2013/02/09/anti-semitism-is-a-trick-a-brief...
'Israel has no desire to be a superpower or control more territory'
Um...
http://www.ahavat-israel.com/eretz/future
Just the religious nuts you say?
Um...
http://www.historycommons.org/context.jsp?item=western_support_for_islam...
http://www.counterpunch.org/2015/10/12/us-caught-faking-it-in-syria/
http://leaksource.info/2015/01/17/the-yinon-plan-greater-israel-syria-ir...
http://www.voltairenet.org/article178638.html
And Israel was forced out of lebanon by the lebanese resistance who made their occupation (which was to portend annexation) became too costly and too obviously colonialist/militarist.
And forced to leave Sinai by the US. And it left Gaza, because it was too hard to defend the Zio settlers and the token effort made good pr as Israel expanded Arab home demos and jewish only settlement and road building in the west bank.
And it, not Hamas, has generally and deliberately broken ceasefires to use the response as a pretext to murder more Arabs.
http://antiwar.com/blog/2014/02/06/the-truth-about-cease-fire-violations...
http://original.antiwar.com/justin/2014/07/08/who-started-the-cycle-of-v...
And the whole point is that croticizing fucked up shit when israel does it us not at all the same as blaming 'the jews' but dishonest cunt Israel Firsters spend day and night trying to conflate 'the jews' with 'the government of the state called 'Israel'". But, your sort do this to stifle criticism only - you will elsewhere loudly proclaim that the very conflation you use to stifle criticism is an antisemitic act. Its a rhetorical trick employed by very dishonest and/or stupid nationalist twats.
Its racist to blame all jews for what israel does ((which is of course obviously true)) BUT we mere goyim cant criticize Israel the state because its a Jewish state, ie effectively the Jewish People.
That is, you will argue against your own earlier held position when it suits your argument, and you do this because your morove is NOT TO BE HONEST but to perpetually act as Israel-the-state's, fucking lawyer, even in the face of naked genocidal aggression or unequivocal specific crimes.
And i also said the opposite of another of your summaries - i dont rely on rhetorical tricks. Because the set of all A is very disproportionately powerful and influential (this is simply a fact, not a value judgment) a subset of A, '"Z"" -(elsewhere qualified as 'Likudniks') are able to use outsized influence.
So 2 millon people voting for a right wing ultra nationalist gangster actually greatly affects a country as huge as the US, because groups like aipac and jinsa and reliably zio ostensibly non-judeocentric orgs oike cfr and brookings and the splc devote much energy to mindless uncritical devotion to Israel, no matter what it does... And theres no opposition from either the majority of jews themselves, nor the general public because opposition to 'Israel' even under Likud is politically detrimental and smeared as 'antisemitism'. And this charade is designed to preclude speaking the truth about Jewish power overall, or the influence of the Likudnik minority in the government and media. Its Israel right or wrong, and no matter how deleterious such support is for the American people.
So fuck you, you racist hypocritical twat. Really.
I find all your comments too obviously propagandistic and alleged summary of my own comments too deliberately inaccurate to be able to take you seriously.
Most of your comment here has utterly nothing to do with anything I said.
Youre just playing Ye Old Hitler card as a red herring designed to derail discussion on the merits.
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2013/02/09/anti-semitism-is-a-trick-a-brief...
And that's all youre doing.
Its racist to blame all jews for what israel does ((which is of course obviously true)) BUT we mere goyim cant criticize Israel the state because its a Jewish state, ie effectively the Jewish People.
Well put. The extensive use of this rhetorical trick becomes very clear once you realize what it is.
I honestly believe it would be an excellent thing were the majority of Jews to migrate to Israel. It woulld give that country security and a democratic majority within present borders. It would also obviate my main complaint against Jews: Acting as a state-within-a-state in Western countries, one which does not exactly have the interests of its hosts as a priority.
Great detailed analysis, upvoted once again! Raqqafellers, driving white toyota pickups in the desert is total awesomeness!
Can someone tell me WHY EVERY TIME THE CIA IS INVOLVED THERE IS A PROFIT MOTIVE?!
Afghanistan---Opium,Defense Contracts,Mercs
Syria----------Oil,Defense Contracts,Transfer and sale of Libyan weaponry (Benghazi)
Central and South America---Cocaine,Cannabis,Weapons,Stolen aircraft
Vietnam,Laos----Golden Triangle Opium,Gold,Weapons
When Putin fronted up to the G20 in Ankara with the Satellite photos of the oil trucks,
it must have been like someone farted in front of the Pope.
I know,I know,if it wasn't for the profitable insurgencies then the US taxpayer would have to
pay more,right? Isn't this how Iran/Contra unravelled? Funding private armies with profits
from selling TOW missles to the Iranians,overcharging them,send the money to Panama
Banks to launder,before handing out bags of cash to the thugs operating out of Honduras?
Hillary was probably up to her tits in this Benghazi stuff and they want her in the WH again?
I suspected the Turks were a little bit corrupt a few weeks back but now that Nato is
treating them like a stinky turd this could be the canary in the coalmine.Has anyone ever
been tossed out of Nato?
Because the cia is basically Hydra?
Turkey wont be kicked out of NATO. They would just become a Russian proxy. Besides that the Turks would release evidence about US complicity in allowing the whole IS oil trafficking thing. Why else would they not have been bombing incredibly obvious oil convoys allowing their "SPECIAL FRIENDS" IN Israel to profit from it.
THERE IS A SHIT STORM COMING AND NOBODY WILL COME OUT OF IT SMELLING GOOD.
UPDATE: RT NEWS REPORTING SU-24 PILOT'S BODY IS IN TURKEY AND BEING GIVE BACK TO THE RUSSIANS. (what's left of it I suppose).
https://www.rt.com/news/323862-turkey-pilot-body-russia/
So, how did the Turks get it from the Terrorists?
Why is Turkey giving the body back?
At least the Pilot's family can have closure once the DNA and forensic ID is complete.
He was awarded the Hero of Russia Medal.
I understand the rebels were hoping to catch him alive so they could give the Jordanian Pilot Treatment.
That's the thing, the barbarity had he been captured would have been by 'moderate' rebels.
You know the chess analogy is waaaay the fuck overused but to the extent as legit as, say, judo as a metaphor... But so far the us/nato has played offense and so dictated the terms while russia has been circling back in defense, yet frustrating us/nato telegraphed moves (black sea fleet in crimea, 'safe zone' to guard isis resupply in northern syria, israeli murder of hundreds of Russian civilians blamed on the us/israeli/saudi/turkish proxies called "isis" ( there is plainly more than one griup being called 'daesh' and probably compartmentalized well)... Didnt take the deliberate and planned bomber shoot down as bait but has excuse to add force protection elements within syria and its airspace).
Given more limited resources, Russia has done well but strategically its main concern must remain its Ukrainian matches and Chechnya/Dagestan.
But sooner or later, there must be an offensive strike that denies the opponent its capacity to follow its plan of attack.
russia is not going to go to the mat for syria, folks. No, Russia needs to be able to defend its own borders from nato and western terror proxies.
To russia, syria is mostly about upsetting us/israeli and saudi plans.
And to the south, what to make of a sustained campaign of bombing hospitals, dozens of them, by the saudis in yemen and the near total lack of coverage of same in the us press?
The people creating this chaos are demons.
"I understand the rebels were hoping to catch him alive so they could give the Jordanian Pilot Treatment."
There musht be sumting wong. these are MODERATE rebels (!!!)
I know that for sure because messrs Obola, Cameron and even Hollande have told us that many many many times.
They wouldn't be lying, would they?