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Erdogan Says Will Resign If Oil Purchases From ISIS Proven After Putin Says Has "More Proof"
“I’ve shown photos taken from space and from aircraft which clearly demonstrate the scale of the illegal trade in oil and petroleum products,” Vladimir Putin told reporters earlier this month on the sidelines of the G-20 summit in Antalya. Putin was of course referencing Islamic State’s illicit and highly lucrative oil trade, the ins and outs of which we’ve documented extensively over the past two weeks:
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- How Turkey Exports ISIS Oil To The World: The Scientific Evidence
- ISIS Oil Trade Full Frontal: "Raqqa's Rockefellers", Bilal Erdogan, KRG Crude, And The Israel Connection
Turkey’s move to shoot down a Russian Su-24 warplane near the Syrian border afforded the Russian President all the motivation and PR cover he needed to expose Ankara’s alleged role in the trafficking of illegal crude from Iraq and Syria and in the aftermath of last Tuesday’s “incident,” Putin lambasted Erdogan. “Oil from Islamic State is being shipped to Turkey,” Putin said while in Jordan for a meeting with King Abdullah. In case that wasn’t clear enough, Putin added this: “Islamic State gets cash by selling oil to Turkey.”
To be sure, it’s impossible to track the path ISIS oil takes from extraction to market with any degree of precision. That said, it seems that Islamic State takes advantage of the same network of smugglers, traders, and shipping companies that the KRG uses to transport Kurdish crude from Kurdistan to the Turkish port of Ceyhan. From there, the oil makes its way to Israel and other markets (depending on which story you believe) and if anyone needs to be thrown off the trail along the way, there’s a ship-to-ship transfer trick that can be executed off the coast of Malta. The maneuver allegedly makes the cargoes more difficult to track.
Some believe Erdogan’s son Bilal - who owns a marine transport company called BMZ Group - is heavily involved in the trafficking of Kurdish and ISIS crude. Most of the ships BMZ owns are Malta-flagged.
In light of the above, some have speculated that Turkey shot down the Su-24 in retaliation for Russia’s bombing campaign that recently has destroyed over 1,000 ISIS oil trucks. Here’s what Syrian Information Minister Omran al-Zoub said on Friday:
“All of the oil was delivered to a company that belongs to the son of Recep [Tayyip] Erdogan. This is why Turkey became anxious when Russia began delivering airstrikes against the IS infrastructure and destroyed more than 500 trucks with oil already. This really got on Erdogan and his company’s nerves. They’re importing not only oil, but wheat and historic artefacts as well."
Al-Zoub isn’t alone in his suspicions. In an interview with RT, Iraqi MP and former national security adviser, Mowaffak al Rubaie - who personally led Saddam to the gallows - said ISIS is selling around $100 million of stolen crude each month in Turkey. Here are some excerpts:
“In the last eight months ISIS has managed to sell ... $800 million dollars worth of oil on the black market of Turkey. This is Iraqi oil and Syrian oil, carried by trucks from Iraq, from Syria through the borders to Turkey and sold ...[at] less than 50 percent of the international oil price."
"Now this either get consumed inside, the crude is refined on Turkish territory by the Turkish refineries, and sold in the Turkish market. Or it goes to Jihan and then in the pipelines from Jihan to the Mediterranean and sold to the international market.”
“Money and dollars generated by selling Iraqi and Syrian oil on the Turkish black market is like the oxygen supply to ISIS and it’s operation,” he added. “Once you cut the oxygen then ISIS will suffocate.”
"There isn't a shadow of a doubt that the Turkish government knows about the oil smuggling operations. The merchants, the businessmen [are buying oil] in the black market in Turkey under the noses – under the auspices if you like – of the Turkish intelligence agency and the Turkish security apparatus."
“There are security officers who are sympathizing with ISIS in Turkey. They are allowing them to go from Istanbul to the borders and infiltrate ... Syria and Iraq.”
“There is no terrorist organization which can stand alone, without a neighboring country helping it – in this case Turkey.”
That's pretty unequivocal. But it gets better.
On Monday, Putin was back at it, saying that Russia has obtained new information that further implicates Turkey in the Islamic State oil trade. “At the moment we have received additional information confirming that that oil from the deposits controlled by Islamic State militants enters Turkish territory on industrial scale," Putin said on the sidelines of the climate change summit in Paris. "We have traced some located on the territory of the Turkish Republic and living in regions guarded by special security services and police that have used the visa-free regime to return to our territory, where we continue to fight them."
"We have every reason to believe that the decision to down our plane was guided by a desire to ensure security of this oil’s delivery routes to ports where they are shipped in tankers," he added, taking it up another notch still.
As for Erdogan, well, he "can't accept" the accusations which he calls "not moral":
- ERDOGAN: TURKEY CAN'T ACCEPT RUSSIA CLAIMS THAT IT BUYS IS OIL
LATEST - Erdo?an: Russia’s claim that Turkey bought oil from Daesh is not ‘moral’, such claims have to be proved pic.twitter.com/PZka8MwzpL
— DAILY SABAH (@DailySabah) November 30, 2015
Hilariously, the man who just finished starting a civil war just so he could regain a few lost seats in Parliament and who would just as soon throw you in jail as look at you if he thinks you might be a threat to his government, now says he will resign if Putin (or anyone else) can present "proof": “We are not that dishonest as to buy oil from terrorists. If it is proven that we have, in fact, done so, I will leave office. If there is any evidence, let them present it, we’ll consider [it]."
Hold your breath on that.
And so, the Turkey connection has been exposed and in dramatic fashion. Unfortunately for Ankara, Erdogan can't arrest Vladimir Putin like he can award winning journalists and honest police officers who, like Moscow, want to see the flow of money and weapons to Sunni militants in Syria cut off.
The real question is how NATO will react now that Turkey is quickly becoming a liability. Furthermore, you can be sure that the US, Saudi Arabia, and Qatar (who are all heavily invested in the Sunni extremist cause in Syria), are getting nervous. No one wants to see this blown wide open as that would mean the Western public getting wise to the fact that it is indeed anti-ISIS coalition governments that are funding and arming not only ISIS, but also al-Nusra and every other rebel group fighting to wrest control of the country from Assad. Worse, if it gets out that the reason the US has refrained from bombing ISIS oil trucks until now is due to the fact that Ankara and Washington had an understanding when it comes to the flow of illicit crude to Cehyan, the American public may just insist on indicting "some folks."
Remember, when it comes to criminal conspiracies, the guy who gets caught first usually ends up getting cut loose. It will be interesing to see if Erdogan starts to get the cold shoulder from Ankara's "allies" going forward.
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That new M/E map will never fly.
Check out the tweets by user Fuat Avni, an Ankara insider w/ his finger on the pulse.
Fuat Avni has a second account w/ more detailed information but in Turkish - it's definitelly worth looking into. Get translating, you won't be disappointed...
"We're Bad!"
Pentagon Warns Against RF Jets using A-A Missiles
(Tass)
http://tass.ru/en/defense/840554
"You Russkies better not try to defend yourselves!"
"Gosh darn, Mr NATO, we'll take those right off. Sorry."
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Edit: Bet you won't see this in USSA Pravda Organs!
Soros Group kicked out of Russia
https://www.rt.com/politics/323919-soros-foundation-recognized-as-undesi...
Syria is a sovereign nation - like Libya - Iraq and Afghanistan - What part of that don't you understand ???
Sovereign nation has no meaning to us. These lands are our lands. Part of the Greater Israel hallucination that one of our ancient ancestors had. All else is noise and these lands will be cleansed of goyem. By hook or by crook and with the use of goyem tax money, this will be done.
-The Elders of Zion
Everyone always knew SA & Turkey were behind ISIS...and most of the Arab Spring.
But... I hope Putin has more specifics.
I believe....but I believed before anyone said anything.
But I also remember Powell in front of the UN making names and showing photos...which turned out not to be.
Next to that this "Iraqi guy said" mind of evidence is much weaker...because we don't know how he knows...or if it is merely his opinion based on analysis.
The stronger the case against two faced allies the more effective it will be in changing kinds and long alliances.
Where is the proof ? Still none exist. Show me some proof.
Even when Proof is given, it will not be shown on the American News. After all it's against American Interests.
the American public may just insist on indicting "some folks." What a Joke. The American Population has been coined the Term Pussification and for good Reason.
Nato, is now an Aggressor in the World.......History will show, The American Millitary is a Mercinary Force......The Government....(Congress) is a Bought out System.....With Israel in control of the Votes as well as Lobbyists funneling the Money sent to Israel......3 Billions a year.........
WTF are Americans allowing this to continue?
QE monies could have been distributed to the population not the Zionist Jewish Bankers.....but no........Young men Drugged up kill 90% civillians as Collateral Damage, Flatten Infrastructures, and cause mass Migrations.
Truth Justice and Morals are gone from this Greedy Facist Country. May the Wrath of God smite those who will rot in Hell.
Alright I agree, NATO is the agressor in the world. But i ask a simple question, allagedly Turkey buys ISIS oil and support them. Where is the proof? Can anyone show me a tiny bit a proof please? All i saw is a satilite image of some burning oil trucks, what does that prove?
Have you tried google?
You don't need proof if you can manage by applying common sense. Please take a map of Iraq and ask yourself the question:" Where the heck could IS sell oil extracted from syrian or iraqian soil?
"BOMBS target the faithful in Istanbul's busiest mosques; a Turkish air force jet is shot down over the Aegean, provoking a war with Greece. Chaos descends over Turkey. The army steps in, overthrows the mildly Islamist Justice and Development (AK) Party that has governed Turkey since 2002, and takes control.
This plan, codenamed “Sledgehammer” and hidden among 5,000 pages of army documents, was exposed in January by a small independent newspaper, Taraf. It caused a storm. The army said it was just a “simulation exercise”. How, thundered General Ilker Basbug, the chief of the general staff, could Turkish soldiers, who charge into battle crying “Allah, Allah”, bomb a mosque? It is a question which civilian and military prosecutors are now attempting to answer.
“Sledgehammer” is only the latest in a string of alleged coup plots to have been exposed in recent years. That helps explain why, on February 4th, Turkey's government scrapped the controversial security and public order (“Emasya”) protocol, which lets the army choose to take charge in the provinces when law and order breaks down. Critics argued that Emasya's real purpose was to provide the legal framework for a future coup." ...
http://www.economist.com/node/15505946
Thats from 5 years ago, but the more things change...
turkey has certainly supported isis but the idea this took place without us consent is absurd. so while Erdogan deserves all the scorn above, if he is thrown under the bus it will be in no small part done to whitewash the american (and israeli and saudi) roles.
But Iraq and Libya and now Syria have been turned into bloodbaths by the US most of all, due to the tenacious presence of neocons and other chickenhawk militarists - and they have absolutely supported isis and al qaeda as proxies, and have continued doing so.
I mean let that sink in - even after the deliberate lies and disaster of Iraq, the same Zionist neocons are cheerleading for moar war in the same papers and federal agencies.
Isis is in essence a Us/Israeli proxy force.
http://theantimedia.org/isis-israel-iraq-and-syria-its-all-part-of-the-p...
http://www.counterpunch.org/2015/10/12/us-caught-faking-it-in-syria/
turkey's military could depose erdogan and continue acting as a us/israeli proxy in hopes of solving its Kurdish problem by expelling many of them to a rump kurdistan in northern syria...
http://www.voltairenet.org/article189385.html
Or, they could surprise washington and tel aviv by getting closer to Russia
http://atimes.com/2015/10/russia-outflanks-turkey-in-syria/
Turkey would seem to have more to gain by avoiding conflict with Russia than by continuing to act as washington's puppet.
I dont know. turkey is basically a black box to me, but it is clear that the US and israel have stirred up a hornet's nest to its south and may have been involved in destabilizing ops in turkey. They have courted the kurds heavily
http://www.globes.co.il/en/article-israel-buys-most-oil-smuggled-from-is...
And indeed there is a long history of Israeli connection to some of the leading Kurdish clans. But that doesnt mean the kurds as a whole like or trust israel, and many hate the turks most of all and dream of creating a kurdistan largely out of Turkish real estate.
Turkey cozying up to Russia potentially solves some problems. erdogan's ravings aside why should Turkey really want chaos in syria over Assad - particularly with there being no chance that Turkey could carve out and hold much territory in syria. Nato likely has a boner for a full on invasion but when it comes right doen to it, nato's aggression lacks any sort of coherent justification, and us claims that assad must go are fucking ridiculous - Assad on his worst day is better than a swuabbling handful of jihadist Bantustans lousy with us, saudi and israeli agents bent on sowing death and chaos.
Just spitballing here. I realize how much of a wild card Turkey seems to be, and maybe it is not to the better informed out there, butcontinuing to bomb kurds, support isis, and kill Russian pilots is not the best path for Turkey to take.
I suspect but obviously dont know that Putin has made clear to the Turks that Turkey is playing with fire, and nato or not further attacks on Russians fighting isis will engender very, very heavy retaliation.
Also, look into Ergenekon...
Big oil runs this country. Any questions?
Does anyone think for a moment Recep would resign if the proof was shown? he will just say it is fake and move on.
Recep is the regime that needs to be changed.
Erdogan Butts Heads With Putin, Asking 'Are You Ready to Resign?'
Turkish President Recep Erdogan has challenged President Vladimir Putin to prove allegations that Turkey downed a Russian jet to protect oil supplies from the Islamic State, or resign from his post, the state-run TASS news agency reported Monday.
Speaking on the sidelines of a United Nations climate conference in Paris on Monday, Erdogan refuted Putin's allegations that Turkey was buying oil from the Islamic State — a militant group banned in Russia.
"If the [allegations] are proven, I will not stay in office,” Erdogan was cited as saying. " So I ask our honorable Putin, would he stay?”
Relations between the two countries have hit a post-Cold War low after Turkey last week downed a Russian Su-24 fighter jet on the border with Syria.
Putin on Monday called the downing “a huge mistake” and accused Turkey of being “accomplices of terrorists.”
"We have received additional data which confirm that Islamic State oil ... is supplied to Turkey," Putin said. "The decision to shoot down the plane was dictated specifically by a desire to defend supplies,” he was cited as saying by TASS in a separate report.
Since the plane was downed, Moscow has retaliated by canceling a visa-free regime with Turkey and imposing an import ban on Turkish produce.
Russia: Moscow Delays Enforcing Ban on Turkish Produce to Avoid InflationAlthough Russia has said it would ban fruits and vegetables from Turkey in response to the shooting down of a Russian warplane, it will wait several weeks to enforce the sanctions to avoid creating sudden shortages that could fuel inflation, Arkady Dvorkovich, a deputy prime minister, said Monday. The delay will enable Russian importers to identify alternative suppliers, he said. Officials are not considering a ban on industrial imports at this time, said Igor Shuvalov, another deputy prime minister. The list of banned items might be expanded in the future, officials said. Among the measures already announced are limits on travel and tourism between the two countries. Russia has spent almost $750 million on importing Turkish fruits and vegetables so far this year, according to government statistics, and Turkey accounted for about 4 percent of all foodstuffs purchased abroad in 2014. About 90 percent of all lemons sold in Russia come from Turkey, as well as significant amounts of tomatoes, grapes and apricots. About 1,250 Turkish trucks are now stacked up along Russia’s southern border, Interfax reported.
Lots of demand for proof. But syria was sanctioned, no joke,for buying gas from isis (ultimately)
http://www.wsj.com/articles/u-s-says-syria-is-buying-oil-from-islamic-st...
Where was the proof there.
I submit that it would be helpful for the unfamiliar to review the names and bios of the top treasury officials responsible for tracking terror financing.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Under_Secretary_of_the_Treasury_for_Terr...
Under Sec was adam szubin then david cohrn both reporting to jack lew. Cohen, alarmingly, was made dep cia director by obama the secret muslim.
Similar "occupation" in state
http://youtu.be/2fL2q4BgmKg