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Russia Bans Soros Foundation As A "Threat To National Security And Constitutional Order"

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Following Russia's official retaliation to the Turkish downing of its jet a week ago, in which Putin issued an executive order limiting employment for Turkish workers, restricting Turkish organizations, and reducing the amount of bilateral trade with Ankara, perhaps a far more notable development took place earlier today when the Russian Prosecutor General’s Office issued a statement in which it recognized George Soros’s Open Society Institute and another affiliated organization as "undesirable groups", banning Russian citizens and organizations from participation in any of their projects.

In a statement released on Monday, prosecutors said the activities of the Open Society Institute and the Open Society Institute Assistance Foundation were a threat to the foundations of Russia’s Constitutional order and national security. They added that the Justice Ministry would be duly informed about these conclusions and would add the two groups to Russia’s list of undesirable foreign organizations.

Are the "globalization gloves" finally coming off?

According to RT, prosecutors launched a probe into the activities of the two organizations - both sponsored by the well-known US financier George Soros - in July this year, after Russian senators approved the so-called “patriotic stop-list” of 12 groups that required immediate attention over their supposed anti-Russian activities. Other groups on the list included the National Endowment for Democracy; the International Republican Institute; the National Democratic Institute; the MacArthur Foundation and Freedom House.

Open Society is not the first: in late July, the Russian Justice Ministry recognized the US National Endowment for Democracy as an undesirable group after prosecutors discovered the US NGO had spent millions on attempts to question the legitimacy of Russian elections and tarnish the prestige of national military service.

The Law on Undesirable Foreign Organizations came into force in early June this year. It requires the Prosecutor General’s Office and the Foreign Ministry to draw up an official list of undesirable foreign organizations and outlaw their activities. Once a group is recognized as undesirable, its assets in Russia must be frozen, its offices closed and the distribution of any of its materials must be banned. That said, it is doubtful that Soros still has any active assets in Russia - his foundation, which emerged in Russia in its early post-USSR years in the mid-1990s, wrapped up active operations in 2003 when Putin cemented his control on power.

If the ban is violated, the personnel of the outlawed group and any Russian citizens who cooperate with them could face heavy fines, or even prison terms in the case of repeated or aggravated offences.

And while it is doubtful that Soros will be making landfall in Moscow any time soon and thus be subject to an arrest warrant, it is notable that the first financial spillover effect from the year's most dramatic geopolitical event involves note other than the famed "globalizer" and the person who as recent hacked emails divulged was the puppet-master behind the Ukraine presidential coup.

Will the US retaliate in kind and expand its year-long sanctions against Russia as a result as the world continues to careen into fragmented, multi-polar chaos? Or will there be another provocation between NATO-member Turkey and Russia as a result, perhaps one involving Russian ship transit through the Boshporus? With events now moving fast, we should have an answer in the very near future.

 

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Mon, 11/30/2015 - 10:39 | 6855991 viator
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Russia, leading the way yet again.

Mon, 11/30/2015 - 10:43 | 6856012 SpanishGoop
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"Will the US retaliate in kind and expand its year-long sanctions against Russia..."

Since when is Soros not a private person anymore but part of the US gouverment or so ?

BFF of Barry ?

 

Mon, 11/30/2015 - 10:45 | 6856019 GRDguy
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"Open Society"simply means that agents of The Great Red Dragon are closing in on their goal "to own the earth in fee-simple." Globalization is another word for plantationizing the planet, with few hands controlling all commerce. Nothing, except the 99% NOT doing business with them, stands in the way of achieving that goal.  Then we'll really have the "new dark ages."

Mon, 11/30/2015 - 10:46 | 6856022 css1971
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So Soros = Illuminati? CIA asset? Cabal member of the New World Order?

Mon, 11/30/2015 - 10:48 | 6856026 SpanishGoop
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Nope, almost dead.

 

Mon, 11/30/2015 - 10:59 | 6856110 Free_Spirit
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But not yet cold. 

Mon, 11/30/2015 - 11:02 | 6856137 J Jason Djfmam
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He will still be meddling with his head in a jar.

Mon, 11/30/2015 - 11:10 | 6856203 SpanishGoop
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Brrrrrr, Futurama.

Think of all the "great leaders" which still have a voice (head).

 

 

 

Mon, 11/30/2015 - 11:04 | 6856152 Unix
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Soros is just pure evil...don't need a label for that

Mon, 11/30/2015 - 10:46 | 6856023 Allen_H
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Die already, you fucking evil cunt !!!

Mon, 11/30/2015 - 10:49 | 6856034 TideFighter
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Hungarian Goul Ass

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 12:53 | 6861236 Max UK
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He is NOT a Hungarian.

Mon, 11/30/2015 - 10:51 | 6856050 Grouchy Marx
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The incongruity lately has been that Putin, an enemy of democracy and internal dissent, has nonetheless been making a string of decisions and statements that I heartily applaud. Sometimes he seems the only actor on the world stage with any sense. Soros is evil, and Putin seems the first to notice.

So, although I cannot turn a blind eye to his assassination or oppression of political opponents, yet I find myself very thankful that he provides a counterweight to the absolute stupidity being shown throughout the Western world.

I do hope he comes to his senses with respect to support for Iran, however. Nukes in the hands of the Iranians will not end well.

Mon, 11/30/2015 - 11:03 | 6856141 Unix
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very sane comment grouchy. you are a critical thinker!

Mon, 11/30/2015 - 11:18 | 6856251 medium giraffe
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I was in agreement with you right up to your last point.  Iran has the same right to nuclear weapons as any other soveriegn nation.  It's the US I don't trust with nukes, they have a tendency to actually use them.

Mon, 11/30/2015 - 12:02 | 6856507 Unix
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giraffe, i usually agree with you, but the iranians go by the hadith, which calls for world wide bloodshed, chaos; in order for the 13th imam to return. if they get their hands on a nuclear bomb they WILL use it.

true usa has used two, to date, but it stopped there...it was horrible, but if the usa had not used it, there would have been millions of more dead bodies. i certainly hope that you re-think your position on this, because the iranian govt (not people) are quite mad.

Mon, 11/30/2015 - 12:13 | 6856601 medium giraffe
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US foriegn policy is like a Jihadist's wet dream.  And I'm pretty sure that Japan was set up.

Mon, 11/30/2015 - 15:05 | 6857562 Unix
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nah, that is the scuttlebutt, it is not thr truth...the sand people have been lopping off heads for about thousand years. As to Japan, they deserved what they got, they were the jihadists of their day with squinty eyes.

Mon, 11/30/2015 - 14:35 | 6857441 Grouchy Marx
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Nukes for Liechtenstein and Monaco! And Vatican City! (It is sovereign, you know).

And for your crazy Uncle Carl, who thinks he is sovereign! Yeah, nobody should be denied.

It's all fun and games to debate these things on a comment board, until somebody actually sets one off. The Iranians have promised to do that, and for that promise, they stand unique among the world's powers.

Mon, 11/30/2015 - 21:43 | 6859207 Baby Bladeface
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That is not even propaganda. That is fantasy. Fantasy world.

Mon, 11/30/2015 - 11:57 | 6856475 Caleb Abell
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"Nukes in the hands of the Iranians will not end well."

 

All of the US intelligence agencies have repeatedly said that Iran does not have a nuclear weapons program.  The US pushes this BS because saying that the US has to overthrow Iran to stop their nuclear weapons program is an easier sell than saying that Iran sits atop a vast lake of oil, and US corporations want to steal it.

Mon, 11/30/2015 - 14:30 | 6857418 Grouchy Marx
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I have no idea what the US intelligence services are saying, because they don't invite me to their briefings. What they say publicly I put no stock in. Maybe you have an inside line. What I do know, is that by their own admission, the Iranians are pursuing nukes. I believe them - it's not the kind of thing you would brag about idly, I would think.

Mon, 11/30/2015 - 11:58 | 6856485 TeaClipper
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No crazier than those bastions of good will to all men, North Korea, Pakistan, and Israel having them is it?

Mon, 11/30/2015 - 14:28 | 6857411 Grouchy Marx
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Right you are. However, having more crazies in the world with nukes isn't a great idea. Just because North Korea has them, say, doesn't mean everyone should have them. Wish they had never been invented, just like genetic manipulation - someday we will all wake up to the disastrous result of our own inventiveness. Many things are better left alone.

Mon, 11/30/2015 - 12:40 | 6856780 azusgm
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Iran never signed the agreement with the US.

Letter from the State Department inside:

http://www.nationalreview.com/article/427619/state-department-iran-deal-...

Mon, 11/30/2015 - 10:52 | 6856053 Delrumple
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Go Russia

Mon, 11/30/2015 - 10:55 | 6856077 PGR88
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Time to give this NWO criminal some polonium sushi

Mon, 11/30/2015 - 10:56 | 6856082 rejected
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Unlike dumbshit ameriKans that WANT a nuclear war, Putin doesn't want to nuke anybody, but the USA will probably force the issue. If somehow a miracle occurs and Russia has some military left after the fact,  please find these assholes hiding in their bunkers and force them outside, with no protection, into the nuclear winter wonderland they wanted so badly.

Mon, 11/30/2015 - 11:02 | 6856135 Unix
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i am an american and i certainly dont want nuclear war! where do you get your drivvel from rejected, damn

Mon, 11/30/2015 - 11:23 | 6856284 silverthorn
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Nuke the black rock.

Mon, 11/30/2015 - 10:57 | 6856083 THE DORK OF CORK
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The IIea in Ireland seems to be the local CFR type of operation for "concensus Building".... See total destruction of the resident community. 

John Lolyd gave a typically totally unbalanced view of Russia in a July speech in Dublin.

The dynamic at this level is for the local Jesuit educated elite to get their instructions from a higher bunch inhabiting caves somewhere in deepest London.  

Mon, 11/30/2015 - 10:57 | 6856084 Debugas
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russia clearly voted for national statehood against global corporations grab

Mon, 11/30/2015 - 10:57 | 6856086 mijev
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"The Law on Undesirable Foreign Organizations came into force..."

I would have just gone ahead and called it "The Law on ugly, decrepit, thieving, crooked, useless, past their use date, lice-ridden, self-serving, face like a nutsack, unfuckable, hideous old cunts."

But that's just me.

Mon, 11/30/2015 - 10:58 | 6856099 Free_Spirit
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You're just being nice. 

Mon, 11/30/2015 - 11:00 | 6856112 medium giraffe
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If he declares NATO a terrorist organisation I'll send him a Christmas card.

Mon, 11/30/2015 - 11:00 | 6856117 Oldrepublic
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In the late 90s I met an American, a Soros operative who had just been kicked out of Belarus, after Belarus closed Soros’ offices there.

I was wondering why it took Russia so long to do so

Mon, 11/30/2015 - 11:01 | 6856123 Unix
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soreass needs to be banned from this rock!

Mon, 11/30/2015 - 11:01 | 6856128 dogismycopilot
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If you ever want to start to learn Russian, begin with the alphabet. This is a good youtube link (ironically, a teacher from the Dallas Public School system about 20 years ago!)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i6wTuVWq50w&list=PLhVZIHYDoMVqUXDxgID69P...

Also, here is a good link to learn the Russian National Anthem. You want to surprise a Russian - sing the Russian National Anthem to them!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AOAtz8xWM0w

 

Mon, 11/30/2015 - 12:26 | 6856687 AlaricGaudiTheSecond
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Thanks for russian lang link. Vera is great!!

Mon, 11/30/2015 - 13:06 | 6856919 Escapedgoat
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I am going to watch these videos mate, and see what they  are up to.

Mon, 11/30/2015 - 11:11 | 6856200 taketheredpill
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Failed State = Any Democracy that regards the welfare of it's own people above that of US Corporations.

 

Mon, 11/30/2015 - 11:11 | 6856201 Fireman
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About time. Now track the geriatric zionazi piece of filth down and liquidate it.

Mon, 11/30/2015 - 11:10 | 6856204 Omega_Man
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Soros needs to be thrown into the lake of fire with Satan, his father

Mon, 11/30/2015 - 11:22 | 6856263 James TraffiCan't
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Exactly and while we're at it...Let's throw a few others in with him.  

Beam me up Scotty!

Mon, 11/30/2015 - 11:12 | 6856215 silverer
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A real leader once again strikes at a true target of evil.

Mon, 11/30/2015 - 11:17 | 6856244 Niall Of The Ni...
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What's Esperanto for "About fucking time?"

Mon, 11/30/2015 - 11:21 | 6856274 THE DORK OF CORK
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I ask all Irishmen to listen to the IIea series of lectures.

What is most striking is the sheer blandness of this terrible terrible euro evil which has descended on us over the decades.

Totally destroying Europe in the process.

I find the latest Jonathan Faull speech ( a British euro civil servant active since the 70s) gets into the horrible little minds of these people.

 

Mon, 11/30/2015 - 12:40 | 6856779 AGAU
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DofC, please do a fellow Corkonian a favour and give me a summary of the Jonathan Faull speech, it's cruelty to make anyone listen to that shite.

Mon, 11/30/2015 - 11:35 | 6856346 blentus
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So, there I was, 18 years old, and living in a shitty civil war torn country. Not giving a fuck about anything, me and few of my friends managed to print a computer magazine and keep it going for a while. It was impossible to make money with it, and we never did it for the money anyway. It was a good 'distraction' from everything around us, and it also helped other curious kids. This was before Internet became popular/accessible, so good information was not so easy to obtain.

Around that time, Soros Foundation 'appeared' in our country and started usual advertising and promises how they will give money to 'promising' projects made by young people. Of course, we had an amazing thing (it was really hard to make a printed computer magazine while having civil war and sanctions, heh) and were certain that we would easily qualify for grant.

We got rejected. A guy printing black and white A4 pamphlet saying shit about government got the money.

I was lucky enough to learn early how these pieces of shit work.

Every time I hear phrase 'NGO' my brain simply translates it to 'cunts'. Can't help it.

Mon, 11/30/2015 - 11:44 | 6856404 Dickweed Wang
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Every time I hear phrase 'NGO' my brain simply translates it to 'cunts'. Can't help it.

 

Good post pal . . . . "cunts"??  It's more like douche bags . . . .

Mon, 11/30/2015 - 11:46 | 6856411 smacker
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"[...] the Russian Justice Ministry recognized the US National Endowment for Democracy as an undesirable group after prosecutors discovered the US NGO had spent millions on attempts to question the legitimacy of Russian elections"

Not to mention its undercover black activities and funding of malcontents in many other countries to stir up civil unrest and regime change. As I recall they were named as being involved in Hong Kong during the student unrest a while back. I assume it's a CIA front org.

Mon, 11/30/2015 - 11:50 | 6856426 Consuelo
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Hey wait a minute...   This doesn't seem to be following the Brandon Smith train of thought...   Brandon...????

Mon, 11/30/2015 - 11:58 | 6856486 smacker
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I'd guess Brandon would support this action by Russia.

In order to develop a free and open society with free markets which leans towards libertarian personal responsibility, you sometimes have to stamp on those who would seek to corrupt and pervert or otherwise control or destroy things. Soros and the US Endowment for Democracy are two orgs which seek to destroy wherever they go. Their close links to the CIA exposes them.

Mon, 11/30/2015 - 11:51 | 6856435 smacker
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Something tells me that some very smart people in Moscow have been carefully studying who is creating all this global unrest.

Russia's actions to kick out "Soros Open Society" and the "US National Endowment for Democracy" - neither of which have anything to do with what their names suggest - is to prevent Russia becoming another victim.

Mon, 11/30/2015 - 11:56 | 6856466 Pumpkin
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And here in the US, young male Syrian refugees of fighting age are not considered a threat to national security.

Mon, 11/30/2015 - 11:58 | 6856483 Jethro
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Why should they be when they are part and parcel of the Obama regime's agenda?

Mon, 11/30/2015 - 12:08 | 6856555 1stepcloser
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No, here they are considered future Dumbycrat voters

Mon, 11/30/2015 - 12:11 | 6856585 HoserF16
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When Shit goes down, there's no place on earth this little Jewish-NAZI Cock-Sucker can hide! Nuff said...

Mon, 11/30/2015 - 12:17 | 6856629 lindaamick
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SMART MOVE.

Mon, 11/30/2015 - 12:23 | 6856664 gcjohns1971
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Hungarian born and raised, London Educated, Soros is a "well-known US financier" in the same way Karl Marx is a well-known British Aristocrat.

Mon, 11/30/2015 - 12:32 | 6856731 falak pema
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Karl Marx the great Bullingdon elitist.

Come to ZH and learn all about TRUE aristocracy like TRUE socialism/

Pity we learn nothing about TRUE capitalism; like Tricky Dicky and Ronnie the Tramp/

Johns of the Toilet?  Or is it the Loo?

It could be the Zoo, but I'll give you benefit of doubt!

Mon, 11/30/2015 - 12:31 | 6856721 cwsuisse
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It is amazing that it took the Russian authorities that long to spell the ban on the Soros foundations. 

Mon, 11/30/2015 - 12:39 | 6856776 zeroboris
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You'll be astonished how many West sponsored prostitutes and clowns still frisking around the Russian political scene.

Mon, 11/30/2015 - 12:34 | 6856736 zeroboris
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"Russia Bans Soros Foundation"

Better later than never. I've been waiting since 90's.

Mon, 11/30/2015 - 12:34 | 6856739 BarkingCat
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I wish they would ban Soros and his spawn from the planet.

Mon, 11/30/2015 - 12:37 | 6856757 skistroni
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That's it! I'm done. I'm moving to Russia cyka blyad

Mon, 11/30/2015 - 12:43 | 6856796 zeroboris
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"cyka blyad"

Not bad my friend, not bad. :)

Mon, 11/30/2015 - 12:37 | 6856759 TheDutchDude
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Create (NW)Order from disorder. This is what de big guys wants. 

Time is not on Soros´s side and not even on satan´s side as in time they will face the ultimate judgement, as do we.

Accept Jesus as your savior, repent your sins and give love to one and other as you love yourself.

Mon, 11/30/2015 - 12:46 | 6856809 Son of Captain Nemo
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At it again...

They don't call him "gold member" for nothin!!!!

Mon, 11/30/2015 - 12:52 | 6856838 S Spade
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Dr Evil also recently funded a trip to Cuba for the Black Lives Matter crowd...they came back gushing

where do we these men, err i mean idiots

Mon, 11/30/2015 - 12:56 | 6856854 rsnoble
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Has transhumanism been implemented?  What is this guy? 190 now??

Just imagine an eteral Diane Feinstein and JOhn McCain.  Probably have their personalities transfered to a solid gold object that sits in the same gov't seat.  Talk about a squak box.

Mon, 11/30/2015 - 13:17 | 6856983 wisebastard
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i wonder what color Putin's body bag will be

Mon, 11/30/2015 - 13:21 | 6857010 Amun
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They should have done it in 1989.

USSR would still be there, of course as a capitalist state.

But no 9/11, no illegal wars in the Middle East, no loss of millions of lives, no displacement of hundreds of millions of refugees...hell of hells will not be enough of a punishment for those responsible for the human misery on the scale humanity has witnessed in the last 25 years...

Mon, 11/30/2015 - 13:22 | 6857024 NuYawkFrankie
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ZIO-Punk Soros and Jabba The Hutt separated at birth?

You be the judge: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/8/87/Jabba_the_Hutt.png

 

Mon, 11/30/2015 - 13:34 | 6857104 Noplebian
Mon, 11/30/2015 - 14:18 | 6857363 dsty
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WHy are they yelling Allahu Akbar {God is great] when they are being bombed?

I thought it was they did that when they were being bombed.

Mon, 11/30/2015 - 14:52 | 6857517 Jackagain
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Allah Akbar means Allah (Satan) is great, not God is graeat. Allah is not a name for God. It's the name for the ancient moon god of the Chaldeans.

Mon, 11/30/2015 - 14:11 | 6857326 SmittyinLA
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Protected by Lois Lerner

Mon, 11/30/2015 - 14:37 | 6857448 quadraspleen
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He looks like the fukn Emperor from Star Wars when he pulls his hood off. Shouldn't he be dead yet?

Mon, 11/30/2015 - 14:50 | 6857512 Jackagain
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Is there anyone in the world more evil and devious and bent on word destruction than George Soros’s? Well....outside the US that is....

Mon, 11/30/2015 - 23:49 | 6859111 Radical Marijuana
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I agreed with the thrust of the article above, as well as the pattern of votes on various comments, since I believe that Soros had a hand in driving the human misery that exists in the Ukraine today, etc. ...

Switching from foreign affairs to domestic issues, another thing that Soros has done with his funding was to give tens of millions of dollars to "marijuana legalization" groups, in order that those kinds of controlled opposition would steer that movement into becoming effectively Prohibition 2.0, based on Reefer Madness 2.0 ...

Soros was able to provide sufficient funding for his preferred kinds of organizations, promoting his preferred kinds of bullshit, to enable those groups to get to the head of the bandwagon regarding the "legalization of marijuana," in order to lead that movement towards being neutralized and neutered, in in order to "legalize, regulate and tax" in ways which tend to end up making rich people richer: trending towards legalized cartels to replace the old illegal cartels.

Soros' relatively massive funding of some of the up-start "marijuana legalization" organizations became a kind of Trojan Horse. The people who campaigned on the basis of more Hemp Truth for decades were pushed to the background by those organizations who were more willing to compromise with all the old Huge Lies, because those sorts of groups were the ones that got the big bucks from the bad billionaires, like Soros.

It is one of the main reasons for being extremely pessimistic about the most probable foreseeable futures for civilization, that the banksters are quite able to be able to buy up control over the apparent "opposition." (That is nothing new, of course, as illustrated by how, about a Century ago, the banksters funded the Women's Temperance Movements, in order to enable alcohol prohibition to benefit the banksters and their buddies.)

That Soros was able and willing to spend hundreds of millions of the billions he made from speculating in the financial markets on advancing his political agenda merely illustrated some of the vicious feedback, looping spirals of POLITICAL FUNDING ENFORCING FRAUDS, which have already become so bad that there are NO politically practical ways to stop them from continuing to get even worse still, (although, in the case of Russia, they are reasonably attempting to protect themselves from that.)

Within all NATO countries, the vicious spirals of POLITICAL FUNDING ENFORCING FRAUDS have resulted in those countries becoming too terminally sick and insane to be able to recover from the degree to which they have thereby become so crazy and corrupt as to approach runaway criminal insanities.

For instance, pretty well all of the big environmental groups can no longer be trusted in any of the NATO countries, due to how their funding has corrupted them. The ability of the funding to drive any organization to either accept the big bucks in return for favours, or be overwhelmed by other groups that do accept those big bucks from the bad billionaires, has resulted in every area I know about ending up like that, including the "legalize marijuana" movements, as merely one more relatively simple example of that pattern of social facts.

Mon, 11/30/2015 - 23:44 | 6859597 Joe A
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These so called NGOs stir up things and facilitate so called 'spontaneous revolutions'. Often the people's desire for such revolutions is genuine. But the people are just pawns. After a revolution has succeeded a puppet regime in put in place. Often with 'reformed' previous politicians. Cause revolutions are never continued by the people that won them but by puppets. And then the locus moves on to another revolution. Nothing much changing for the population but hey, at least they are free and have access to 'choice' and endless amounts of debt that will keep them slaves for the rest of their lives.

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