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San Bernardino Mass Shooter Had Islamic State Ties: "She Pledged Allegiance To The ISIS Leader"
"Crises like these are only 'useful' in today's world if they serve someone's geopolitical ends so don't be surprised if the mainstream media soon turns up the San Bernardino equivalent of the forged Syrian passport found in Paris three weeks ago" -- Zero Hedge, 12/2
As CNN reported earlier today, Tashfeen Malik pledged allegiance to ISIS leader Bakr al-Baghdadi, in a Facebook post. Additionally, Reuters reports that Islamic State media now says ISIS follwers carried out the attack.
As attack was happening, investigators believe female attacker Tashfeen Malik posted on FB, pledging allegiance to ISIS leader al-Baghdadi
— CNN NationalSecurity (@NatSecCNN) December 4, 2015
Breaking: investigators find #ISIS link to #sanbernardino shooting, wife pledged allegiance to #albaghdadi on FB during attack - sources
— Jim Sciutto (@jimsciutto) December 4, 2015
The posting was apparently made under a different name. Officials have not said how they know it was indeed Malik's account. From The New York Times:
The woman who helped carry out the shooting in San Bernardino, Calif., on Wednesday had pledged allegiance to the Islamic State in a Facebook posting, according to federal law enforcement officials.
There’s no evidence the group directed the woman, Tashfeen Malik, and her husband Syed Rizwan Farook, to launch the attacks, which killed 14 and wounded 21, said the officials, who spoke on the condition of anonymity because the investigation is continuing.
“At this point we believe they were more self-radicalized and inspired by the group than actually told to do the shooting,” one of the officials said.
The posting had been removed from the social media site and it’s not clear when federal authorities obtained it.
In the days leading up to the shooting, the couple took several steps to delete their electronic information, in an apparent effort to cover their tracks, officials said. Those efforts have led authorities to believe that the shooting was premeditated.
In what some on social media have dubbed "journalistic malpractice," MSNBC is now rumaging through Farook and Malik's home on live television.
This is journalistic malpractice. pic.twitter.com/iYqglTbH8Y
— Adam Goldstein (@A_H_Goldstein) December 4, 2015
And it wasn't just MSNBC, after the landlord pried open the door, the media stormed the house. Here are some screenshots Mashable grabbed which show that not even the couple's six month-old baby's crib was off limits:
And here's a clip that will likely live in media infamy:
This is what rock bottom of journalism looks like
#SanBernadino pic.twitter.com/gzS6zPZBxb
— Maxim Eristavi (@MaximEristavi) December 4, 2015
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Rice and spicy chicken.
That’s what Syed Rizwan Farook and Tashfeen Malik served to 200 guests gathered to celebrate the couple’s wedding at a local mosque in 2013.
Two years later, the pair stormed a San Bernardino County employee holiday party, opening fire with two assault rifles. 14 people were killed, and nearly two dozen were wounded. Farook and Malik died in a subsequent shootout with police.
In the aftermath of the carnage, we took stock of what authorities recovered from the couple’s vehicle and residence.
Found in the suspects' home:
- 2,500 .223 rounds
- A “bomb lab” with “hundreds" of tools that could be used to make IEDs.
- 2,000 9mm rounds
- 12 pipe bombs
Found in the black SUV:
- 1,400 .223 rounds
- 200 9mm rounds
We also predicted that a link to terrorism would be established in relatively short order. “At the end of the day, two people opening fire with assault rifles on a holiday party seems pretty 'terrifying' to us regardless of what inspired the shooters, but remember, crises like these are only "useful" in today's world if they serve someone's geopolitical ends so don't be surprised if the mainstream media soon turns up the San Bernardino equivalent of the forged Syrian passport found in Paris three weeks ago,” we wrote.
Sure enough, just hours later, CNN reported that Farook had “apparently been radicalized.” NBC followed up shortly thereafter, citing FBI sources as saying that Farook had been in contact with “overseas individuals.” Subsequent reports suggested Farook communicated with people who were on the bureau's radar in connection with a terrorism investigation. Officials also said the contact was with "people who weren't significant players," and was dated. There was no documentation of any "surge" in communication prior to the shooting.
So if we buy all of this (and we’re not necessarily saying you should, at least not hook, line, and sinker), then the next question becomes this: what was Farook’s road to radicalization?
Born in Chicago to Pakistani immigrants, “the family moved to Riverside, where his father worked as a truck driver and his mother as a clerk at Kaiser Permanente," The LA Times recounts. He was a member of his high school Muslim club and earned a bachelor’s degree in environmental health from Cal State San Bernardino in 2010. The Times also notes that Farook’s “older brother, Syed Raheel joined the Navy immediately after high school, served from 2003 to 2007, and was awarded two medals for service in the ‘Global War on Terrorism.’” Oh, the irony.
We also know he visited Saudi Arabia for Hajj where he married Malik, a Pakistani native who was then living with family in the kingdom. Farook described himself as Sunni on at least one dating site and as we put it on Thursday, “when it comes to radicalizing Sunni Muslims, the Saudis and their brand of puritanical Wahhabism are second to none.”
On Friday, we get a bit more in the way of color from Farook's sister Saira Khan who spoke to CBS. "I can never imagine my brother or my sister-in-law doing something like this. Especially because they were happily married, they had a beautiful 6-month-old daughter. It's just mind boggling why they would do something like this," she said. "It makes us very upset and angry that how could you leave a 6-month-old daughter," her husband added.
Of course no one wants to believe that they could have so badly misjudged a relative, friend, or co-worker, so predictably, Malik is going to take the blame on this one. Here's what Christian Nwadike - a coworker who CBS says "sat only feet" from Farook for four years - had to say:
CBS: "Do you believe that he was radicalized?" Begnaud asked him.
Nwadike: "Yes, by the wife, I think he married a terrorist," Nwadike said.
CBS: "He married a terrorist?"
Nwadike: "Yes, he was set up through that marriage."
Here's an ad Farook posted on another dating website, called "BestMuslim.com":
Yes, "other small things should not pose that much of a problem". "Small things" like a deep-seated desire to go on a murderous rampage.
Obviously, this is all speculation. While it's certainly possible that Farook was influenced by Malik, it's just as possible that the relationship worked in the opposite direction and furthermore, who's to say they weren't both radicalized from the start and thus formed a bond based on a mutual affinity for extremism?
Unfortunately, getting to the bottom of this will be exceptionally difficult because the US isn't providing Pakistan with the information Islamabad needs to assist and even if Washington does decide to share intelligence, the FIA says its sytems are too antiquated to help. From NBC:
Speaking on condition of anonymity, the source said details sent through by the U.S. were scant so far but confirmed that "the work has started."
The official added that until Pakistani officials had "a picture, or an ID card number, or a passport number, we can't follow any leads."
A senior member of the Federal Investigation Agency, which is Pakistan's FBI, said that it would not be "an easy search" for authorities. The source added: "We will need more data to get more data, if only because our systems are not that sophisticated."
So much for the billions of taxpayer dollars Washington has funneled to Pakistan for "counter-terrorism" purposes.
An attorney for the shooters' family says "a lot of things don't make sense," including the fact that "no one has ever seen Farook with a pipebomb," and Malik "was maybe 90 pounds" and thus incapable of carrying an assault rifle. "Malik was never involved in the shooting," they contend. Pressed by CNN on whether the legal team will actually try to contend that the couple in fact did not commit the crime, the lawyers were non-committal.
Given the breaking news noted above, this could get very interesting in the days and weeks ahead.
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"We are what we eat."
In that case I don't mind being called a pussy.
Watch out for that HPV...Mr Douglas
Several memes keep being repeated in mainstream coverage of this false flag. They're attempting to drill into the minds of the sheeple the following themes:
1) This can happen ANYWHERE, anytime, so be scared shitless, nevermind the fact that overall violence has been declining for decades,
2) The weapons used were purchased LEGALLY, therefore we need new restrictions on who can be permitted to purchase/own firearms,
3) We can't let this become the new normal/ We must do something/ This has to stop/ GIVE UP YOUR FUCKING GUNS.
It's funny, while they're attempting to make the scripted realities appear more real (and failing), they've gone full retard, batshit crazy with the programming. The good news is, it has become so obvious it's even begun to wake some people up.
The american people are going to double down on guns and ammunition after this. They cannot stop it.
2500 years ago, Buddha, if he existed, predicted that mankind would lose its dharma at exactly this time in history. Dharma means a code of existance including a sense of morality. It appears that his prediction was correct. For example, today mothers allow their twelve year old daughters to go to school made up like whores, a sex talk from parents is the advice to always use condoms, people kill their children and receive prison sentences that shop-lifters used to get, people walk into schools amd murder twenty or thirty of their classmates, the list is endless. Falun Dafa, Falun Gong, a heart and mind cultivation practice, is a practice, totally free, with approx. one hundred million adherants, that can help people regain their lost sense of morality which then allows them to distinguish the difference between that which is good and that which is bad. Falun Dafa's tenet is truthfulness, compassion and forbearance(tolerance).
buddhists only set themselves on fire, that's and improvement
Listening to Nicholas Thalasinos's rantings and ravings had nothing to do with what happened.
/s
Nice job NSA ! Lets give up more of our rights .
Yep - another awesome job done by our entire constitutional rights thieving "intelligence" agencies! Unfuckingbelievable.
Shouldn't the victim's families be in front of the network mics demanding gun control by now? What's keeping them?
It's San Bernadino County, I guess you're not familiar. It's a very red county in the People's Republic of CA. Everyone has a CCW, even monks who pledged a vow of peace and silence.
Good to know. Thx.
Add in San Diego County, Orange County, Imperial County, Riverside County, and many ot the sparsely populated Counties in Eastern California. to the Gun Toting Red Counties.
Unfortunately there is Los Angeles County, San Francisco, and Sacramento County and the Northern Coastal Counties, that are extremely LIBERAL and heavily populated.
And because of "Democracy" we are subjected to the dictates of Majority Rule.
You now where Mitt Romney lives? In La Jolla, about 25 Miles from me. His children live in Rancho Bernardo...about 20 miles North of me.
So... Why was nobody shooting back?
This mass-murder jihad event is the most compelling evidence yet that the ISLAMIC ideology is simply this:
Murder all infidels.
This man was born and raised in U.S....he wasn't even immersed in the muslim culture (except for his local mosque? hmmmm...); yet simply by READING THE KORAN (piss be upon it) and attending local religious events, he learned to strike out against non-believers and the American oppressors.
Israel laughs at you and your blind rage.
Isreal is just another aspect to the problem. Islam is the primary problem.
Nope you have it backwards.
http://smoloko.com/?p=7112
http://www.ziomania.com/articles5/Judonia%20Rising-%20The%20Israel%20Lob...
Shill or brainwashed?
http://mondoweiss.net/2015/10/coverage-violence-victims
The primary problem is a population of brainwashed sheep that believe, without question, the Zionist mainstream media in the US.
I don't get wtf ZH is talking about the past 48 hours. Has this website been -hijacked- taken over by somone? Every other terrorist -shooting- incident in this country is called work place violence or a one off. No one involved is "radicalized."
So now ZH predicted (2 whole days ago, who gives a shit) this would be considered something the media would make up, frame this poor guy and his wife. Who gives a shit, as long as it's not blamed on some random white guy who might not be in love with his country when he did when JFK was president. It is what it is. I'm just glad it's not just another angry white male so the media and president could use this as yet another problem whereby they go after guns, mags and ammo. Well, it looks like they are doing that anyway.
ZH, get your narrative straight....one day we're in for a hell of a ride once isis reaches our shores and now that they have, it's a whole media conspiracy to frame an innocent muslim who married a radicalized Saudi wife.
Doesn't it seem pecular to anyone that at a "holiday party," maybe the word Christmas was used, and this nut case turns from nice guy to "time to blow open this sleeper cell wide open" and runs home, gets his SUV, wife, baby, loads it up with a few thousand rounds, dresses in all black "combat" gear, whatever, gets to the grandma, all in time for the party to still be going strong. Are you fuking crazy dude? Makes no fukn sense. At all.
Sometimes, when it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, and looks like a duck....it's a duck.
Muslims have a very serious problem, and it's themselves. Western civilization and the ideals laid out in the quran are incompatible. Islam is more of a political ideology than a religious one (allowing no competition---backed up with the sword). And, I will never submit to anyone, let alone these mouth-breathers.
Nobody accused these goat-fuckers of being intelligent, so what they did doesn't really have to make much sense from any perspective than their own. My guess is that they saw a target of opportunity, and seized it. It most certainly wasn't a crime of passion as they'd been manufacturing IED's for days. It was premeditated, and fortunately for everybody (with the notable exception of those at the Christmas party), their planning and logistics kept them from injuring far more people.
Another attack by muslim terrorists will happen. Perhaps it will be far bloodier. I am not afraid of this occurring, I see it as inevitable in fact, and this emboldens my resolve to do whatever is necessary to protect those that I love.
Who were those mideastern men who were visiting the apartment over the span of a few weeks?
Why were they there?
Were they workers in the little bomb factory?
Don't let that fall off the radar.
pretty much, it's highly implausible.
Didn't you get the White House propaganda memo? It's Daesh, not ISIS...
Where's pics of wife, child and grandma?
Why only that pic of an obviously drugged up individual?
Is this all it takes to con Amerikans,,,One pic,,, and a lot of he said, she said.
"Obviously, this is all speculation." ZH
NFS!
So Tyler, not sure what you are saying other than be sure of the facts before we draw conclusions. It has been that way for a long time with the MSM.
But not everything they tell us is wrong.
We do know that there was a mass shooting in San Bernardino and it appears these folks did it. They found a lot of weapons and ammo in their vehicle and house, more than just a weekend shooter or hunter. They were Muslim and it is very possible they had been "radicalized" in some manner. Are these facts not true?
I used to read all sorts of conspiracy stuff, JFK, Watergate, etc. In the end believing the massive cover-up/conspiracy story gets you nowhere.
sschu
When is the last time a "mass shooting" happened at a police station or shooting range?
More importantly, the so-called "muslim terrorists" never attack government officials or agencies (the CIA, the FBI, the NSA, or neo-con "thinktanks" (the CFR), Jewish establishments, defense and logistics contractors such as Raytheon, Lockheed, and Halliburton, ... Why??
Huh...a 90# woman can't shoulder an AR-15? I'd wager the internet is loaded with videos of 40# 6 year-olds firing the same type of rifle.
Well that was easy to confirm.
WHY are there no pictures of the woman involved in this shooting - there's only her husbands pictures being posted?
Because all the photos indicate she was caucasian, not Pakistani or Saudi. It fucks up the narrative they're trying to spin.
Atleast they passed the homeland security vetting process. Such an aggressive, thorough and probing vetting process. How many have they let in from Syria in the last month? How many more do they want to admit in the coming years? Such an enlightened, know-it-all bunch we have leading this country. Don't you just feel so safe now?! 1000 more Pelosi/Reid sponsored laws is what we need. I'm sure that will help!!!
Putin for US president, like his quote on ISIS, 'Its not up to me to forgive them, its my job to send them to Allah so he can forgive them' lol
Russian President Vladimir Putin said, “To forgive the terrorists is up to God, but to send them to him is up to me.”
Let me guess, you use to be a home room monitor in grade school?
You know in the 90s Putin came to power using a rather
earthier quote, outhouses!
WOW, those two Jewish kids, or was it CIA agents, are pathetic right? LOL
My goodness, with all of the evidence so far provided, is it not clear to some of you here that it could be Islamic Terror?
Are those of you who blame it on anything but what it is, that jaded and deluded, to really believe the pathetic drivvel you post?
America is not evil, it is the current administration and congress that is evil, in that they spread this false narrative every day?
Then again maybe you are a fuckin' jabroni.
Rothschild, Cheney, Israel, and Stealing Syrian oil:
http://m.journal-neo.org/2015/10/26/genies-and-genocide-syria-israel-rus...
http://www.activistpost.com/2015/09/what-rothschild-murdoch-cheney-and-i...
http://www.counterpunch.org/2015/03/27/rupert-murdoch-and-the-israeli-ge...
http://leaksource.info/2015/01/17/the-yinon-plan-greater-israel-syria-ir...
Pakistan, Saudi, devout Muslims - clear signs of a Jewish plot.
If you're a fucking deranged lunatic.
PLAN FOR JEWISH WORLD DOMINATION
TODAY ITS THE PALESTINIANS, TOMORROW ITS US
http://smoloko.com/?p=8910
Yeah and the us didnt found al qaeda and israel didnt found hamas and the us and israel have not been supporting Christisn murdering proxies to destroy syria.
Fuck yourself.
On a scale of your IQ to 10, guess how interesting and informative your 47th post this week about how everything that happens in the world is a Zionist conspiracy is?
Theres a 99% chance my IQ is higher than yours but it doesnt take a genius to see that for ziopukes lke you its neeeever israel's fault
Fuck you, cunt.
How articulate.
That last sentence is a linguistic gem.
hey Johnny Fuckface, you little prick, you are a lower life form than an amoeba, go find a brain cell, you balloon knot, but for you it is ALWAYS America and Isreal, you idiot hypocrite.
Johnny boy, get off the crack pipe, good grief.
come on Johnny boy, please get your head out of your ass, those links are full of shit, get a real education, then a life. You don't understand me anyway, you never will.
Johnny, Ignore him, he is just here to clog the thread and making it unreadable.
Lets not respond to the Unix troll Please. He's either a paid pro, or a freelance troll.
In either case, lets all not respond to Unix, just down vote his drivel and move on.
Samsarah, Ahhh, true to the communist manifesto, shut down free speech, you are a CUNT!
As best I can tell - if it's a false flag - here's how it typically goes down: You have plausible patsies ready to go, then professionals go in and do the killing. After that you throw the patsies (in this case an "annonymous tip") in front of the police for execution and 'closure'. Remember at Charlie Hebdo the perp at the Kosher Deli came charging out like his hands were tied, not having used the last of his arsenal.
Officials have been caught in so many lies, I say believe nothing until thorough investigation of all relevant facts (hard, because they hide so much sometimes you have to be satisfied that you'll never know for sure).
This is noteworthy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Az2neZzL6UA
Good observation.
I don't think it was his wife who radicalized him, guys. Look at his profile: first, he identifies as Pakistani, not American. Secondly, he calls himself a devout Muslim and spends his time at the mosque memorizing the Koran. In addition, he's looking for a wife who is also a devout Muslima.
If you're memorizing the Koran at the age of 28, chanches are pretty good you're already in with seriously hardcore Muslims - probably Wahhabists (who not coincidentally fund most of the madrassas in Pakistan).
Why would you give the 'story' any FUCKING cedibility in the FIRST place ???
Jack, you don't need to SCREAM (attention problem much?). Why don't you toodle on over to the dailymail and take a look at all the pix of their apartment and get back to me. Or, are you saying that in your world all those media outlets that went in and rifled through the apartment are also part of the conspiracy? The contents of the apartment speak for themselves.
Oh. And don't forget to check out the pack of "Burn-Fix First Aid Dressing" on the refrigerator door. On Amazon, it says that Burn-Fix is used for "1st and 2nd Degree Burns. Chemical Burns, Electrical Burns, Grease Burns, Razor Burns and Sunburns."
And I love the imagined user base: "Must Have For Workers Around Fire, Kitchen and Recreation. Keep In Home, Car, Boat, RV And Camping First Aid Kits!"
double post
sorry
.223 on stripper clips, I am impressed. they slide right in the magazines, no fiddling with each round.
anybody still have a problem with banning muslims from rifle ranges? note - one of the paris shooters actually trained with LAW ENFORCEMENT!!
Ordering .223 instead of 5.56x45mm tells me they didn't know a thing. Stripper clips, so what...just depends on what you're ordering, and most novices wouldn't know either way. If you're going into a firefight, it does no good to not have your magazines pre-loaded. In other words, you always pre-load all the ammo you'll use. There's no time to load new mags during a firefight.
Now, if they really knew anything, they would have been using 62gr green tips 5.56x45mm steel penetrators (XM855)--same as our military.
Their M4's were most likely 5.56 barrels, not .223.
Seem to have worked ok.
Only suicidal amatuers show up to a gunfight with their ammo in stripper clips. I used to carry 12 x 30 round magazines on my kit. That's 360 rounds. There's no way in hell you're going to get stripper clips fed into mags during a firefight.
I understand your point. you carry your mags fully loaded. just sayin, if you want to carry extra, or are bunkered in, stripper clips make sense - magazines dont reload themselves.
I have learned to disregard any near instantaneous "identification of terrorists" by government "authorities" and the usual propaganda networks (CNN, Fox, ABC, CBS, NBC, PBS, NY Times etc etc). I believe the agenda of step-wise removal of Constitutional rights is being skillfully implemented and disguised. TPTB wants to disarm America, so there must be some "problems" that will help trigger the introduction of new laws that ban gun ownership, permit more intrusive search and seizure, establish TSA-style checkpoints, authorize liberal police shootings, suppress "anti-government" speech, ...
More and more people everyday are waking up to these false flag events. Either as the false flag bullshit stories that they are or more reasons to arm themselves for self defense. The likelihood of the American people to give up their guns,,,I wonder what the odds are in Vegas. I'll take the bet that it will be only through their cold dead fingers.
If I must make a bet, I'll bet without the slightest hesitation that this is one of a long series of planned false flag ops similar to 9-11 and Boston bombing.
agreed
"An attorney for the shooters' family says "a lot of things don't make sense," including the fact that "no one has ever seen Farook with a pipebomb," and Malik "was maybe 90 pounds" and thus incapable of carrying an assault rifle. "Malik was never involved in the shooting," they contend."
The lying ass attorney is full of horse manure. A Smith & Wesson M&P15, or other M-4 clones, including accessories such as sling, forward grip, holographic weapon sight (HWS) or red-dot optic, and a fully loaded magazine (30 rounds), weighs about 10 pounds. A 5.56X45 mm / .223 caliber rifle is very controllable even for a woman or child. It has minimal muzzle rise on firing and very little kick to the shoulder. A 90-pound woman would have no problem wielding an M&P15.
He's just trying to do his job and doesn't have a whole lot to work with. Good for him.
Arm yourselves, for protection. Just in case.
She's caucasian, there's no way she's Pakistani.
Yeah. Uh-Ha. Another Farsebook terrorist killing. So much sexier than a passport or note. Like they didn't have time to produce an IS HD Hollywood directed video. I hope to God next week the dum-down media does not say, " they also hated puppies."
BC you are right recall the ridiculous alien hybrid Jeffrey lash story 1200 guns collector and 3 love slaves.in Palisades California where JJ abrams and all the multi millionnaires live and the potus visited twice for fund raising in one year. The Oregon massacre story broke later.
The story was geared in a way that all the fact checking was on Facebook. It dropped out of sight when it was exposed that the asst LA DA lived next door and had the guns and money inventoried in her garage.
Movie hoax? Guncontrol infommercial? It doesnt matter..the news is being filterd, worse..fabricated..and reported however law enforcemnt and government wish it. This is how social engineering and behavior control is accomplished.
The news media has a problem getting facts straight. When you are involved in situations like this you see witnesses that come up with things that take your breath away. You ask yourself "what planet do these people live on?" The news reporters apparently have no self respect or they would make sure the news they report is accurate. Zuckerberg is a grandson of Rockefeller. The CIA gave him a grant of $500 million to get facebook going. Interesting? Who would have thought? I don't know about the rest of you but I don't want law enforcement speculating. I want them to act on facts.
"He married a terrorist."
Unbelievable.
Just remember that all the surveillance state bullshit never detected this character and his friends - and never will.
My local (McClatchy) paper had a big editorial on how we all need to give the government more power and that we should have "no-buy lists" just like the zero-due process "no-fly lists."
Stop giving people your business that support this kind of fascist hooliganism.
And tell them why too.
And when you talk to the gun grabbers about the evil of gun violence in America, ask them how many "Sandy Hooks" Obama ordered on hapless civilians across these growing theaters of war?
I'd still marry Nancy Travis.
Ax or no ax.
Hey Napper. There was nothing "instantaneous" about the terrorist tagging of the suspects. All the media knew for approx 4+ hours the. Ames if the two and they were still reluctant to say the names because of the implication of doing so. They tried hard as hell NOT to report a ME name.
Nice try but sticking your head in the sand is not a solution. Uess you're purposefully doing so which makes you a paid troll.
For the record I tried!!!
Nice try, retard! LOL
A match made in Heaven? Or was that Saudi Arabia? The home of Black Gold, Texas Tea, ...Saudi Soda!
So who is the "socialist in charge" going to start bombing?
Make sure they are at least 5,000 miles away as you don't want any enviromental damage.
He needs to bomb the NRA, gun stores, and white Nazi gun owners. Black people and Jews need guns though to protect themselves against the white racists and KKK police officers. #blacklivesmatter #feelthebern
I hope this is a parody account.
Are you making a threat Cunt?
What difference does it make? The fact is that once again these horrific ASSAULT weapons were used in a brutal attack. The second amendment doesn't apply to these weapons of mass destruction. The second amendment doesn't apply to citiens anyways and a future supreme court is going to rule that way. The second amendment clearly states that only the government has the right to have weapons. You white NAZI bastards are out of control with your terrifiying arsenals out murdering innocent black people every day in places like Chicago because Hitler told you to and you're RACIST just like him. Anyone with any sense knows that guns cause terrorism in the US and climate change causes it elsewhere where they have proper gun control measures. You idiots need to clear your minds of the rubbish that Wayne LaPierre and folks like Thomas Jefferson have filled your thick skulls with. #blacklivesmatter VOTE HILLARY!
Either you need to up your meds, or you are hasbara troll, which is it?
Very mdb like. Bravo!
What is your point?
Hey dumb cunt, what Library you posting from...
What kind of post is this?
Not that anybody cares, or that it matters, but the 2nd amendment says "right to bear arms" - not guns. The purpose which was so that the people could have as a last resort the most basic tool to repel the intrusion of govt tyranny when even the constitutional plan breaks down, satan (shorthand for pure evil) takes control and the only thing left to defend your liberties, regrettably, is having to pick up a weapon, when you otherwise have better things to do.
In 1787, the federalists were very eager to sell their federal plan. The 2nd amendment was the ultimate 'catch all' provision to assure people, who, of course cynically held no 'constitution' could stop tyranny, because people are evil, etc., that in the good times, they would be able to acquire their cache or "arms" to suit this purpose, so in the event of a bad day the bad old tyrant would end up eating buckshot for breakfast :)
Further, "arms" in 1787 were basically cannon, guns and knives. That is it. If the *intent* was to provide for an equal and countervailing military force to be held latently in the hands of the people as surety against tyranny, manifested by the bearing of "arms", these guns you complain of do not even scratch the surface of what the people really need to maintain this balance. Our right to bear "arms" modernly is the right to bear whatever the government has, and this would be a far more deadly cache than an assault rifle.
Today, by theft, the govt has managed to erect this hideous beastly military dragon that assault rifles are no match for. And, sadly, there is no shortage of males (and females I guess these days) who will willingly shut off the voice of their conscience only to listen and exclusively obey the 'order' they get from their 'commanding' officer in their earpiece to kill and destroy whatever they are told to kill and destroy.
Now that we live in the Orwellian JEWSA, we see an unnatural escalation of these sorts of events. 162 since Obummer became POTUS, and now one every 60 days. If you will notice, there is never a legitimate military target. No highly placed government personnel are every touched, just little people for 'shock' value. Here, we see the current event leveraged to say 'ISIS' did it, which is ironic, because the Orwellian JEWSA government created ISIS - that is reported in the MSM, and now some senators (shockingly) are even saying as much -, in the end, they will want to somehow dovetail the event into a pending foreign policy initiative, which is, if you are aware, getting into Syria and toppling the Assad government, for no legitimate reason except the Jews don't like him, and some business to do with pipelines.
What this means is we have reason to suspect these events are government setups. We don't know if they are real, or hoaxes, because there are never trials, no evidence is classically set before the court, where the public can attend the trial in person and look on while the case is presented, and we certainly don't get to visit the morgue, or interview witnesses first hand. This is just a fact. All any of us have to go in is media hearsay and that is it. A few weeks go by, the matter is 'forgotten' but what is remembered is the propaganda object, and usually it is to increase surveillance, take away guns, and perpetuate foreign wars and the advancement of the NWO.
That being the case, real or hoax, given that thee things seem to be increasing, and they can occur anywhere at anytime, we must carry a gun to protect ourselves and our families. The police are never there at the time the incident is taking place. The NSA for all its spying is totally incapable of preventing these things (and likely because they are part of the op). The government is behind all of this and is turning us into a bunch of base brutes. But since they don't blink at pulling off these stunts, and if they are using live ammunition, and it can happen anywhere at anytime, I have a right to defend *myself*. Why should I just walk around w/o a gun when the odds are increasingly higher that a random false flag op will happen around me?
It is unfortunate the government is so evil and that it has come down to this, but that is what the 2nd amendment was originally designed to protect. The next level is to ban together with others to form our own armies (militias) to secure our freedom and defend it against the encroaching tyranny.
I honestly think people like you are so lost that the best solution is to cut the country in half and let one side be the f*ed up version that you prefer, and the other the good one I do.
p.s. The federalists were proven wrong. The federal government is our mortal enemy and it must be destroyed.
Easy big fella, Its a troll, just down vote and skip it.
"What difference does it make?"
Hillary, is that you
They also had 19 Pipe bombs, You will remember to ban pipe too right?
zerohedge must have changed (or screwed up) the code for up-voting and down-voting, as now the page reloads and reposition to the top every time there is a click.
Am I the only one experiencing this absurd change?
(what's their web admin email?)
it would be nice for ISIS to attack the FED, if there was a REAL isis...
Was it really necessary to post the picture of those assault weapons and assault bullets? As a Mitt Romney/Jeb Bush/Hillary Clinton/Mark Rubio/Bernie Sanders/John Kasich conservative those things really creep me out unless a police officer is carrying it.
(1) Q: what was Farook’s road to radicalization?
A: Being a Muslim.
(2) Except for the bombs, his "trove" of weapons sound like my basement.
LOL... My thoughts exactly. News reported over 2,000 rounds! I'm thinking, light weights...
i'll be the first to admit that living in california is very different. let me guess they didnt have many friends, sure 200 people show up at your wedding, food and grub, but socially its just a lot different. i have lived in places where people you know just walk into your house open a beer sit down next to you and say hows it going? and being islamic makes you even more isolated. i am trying to think what a job was done on this guys head, and i think i can see it.
It was the warm smell of colitas, rising up through the ai-ai-air.
"Malik "was maybe 90 pounds" and thus incapable of carrying an assault rifle."
The ignorance of this statement is freakin hilarious.
We’re at war and Obama is letting the enemy cross our battle lines…
You're close... Obama IS the enemy.
Which air dropped pallet did those come off?
That's all OTC in the land of the free.
I live in the GCC. I am a Canadian. All I can tell you right now is you in America cannot appreciate or understand how important the religion is to these people.
It is everything.
It is more than their six month children, more than their parents, more than their passport.
It is everything and beyond into the afterlife. People in the west have no idea. I will be leaving the GCC here shortly. When I do I will set up my own blog but I will do all I can until then unless I am put in jail and tortured. Yes that happens here in the GCC.
Why should you be afraid to die? You belong to it.
save your BS for your copilot - your dog.
Islam is more important to them than a 6 month child. TheKoran is very clear about this.
power is more important to TPTB than their own n-month childen.
money is more important to Wall St. banksters than the lives of 300 million Americans.
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propaganda is more important to you than your reputation as a sane human being
Terrorists should only be shown as pig caricatures and immortalized as such after burial in a pig carcass behind glass for everyone to see. But liberals would have a hissy fit. I say dump all liberals to the bottom of the sea!
Reminded of the movie Brazil over and over with each terrorist "attack" or shooting incident.
Especially the scene in the restaurant when the bomb goes off and no one bats an eye over the screaming and carnage while the waiter pulls a fancy screen around the table of the protagonists so they can continue their meal.
I can still remember watching that movie as a 13 year old and thinking "Imagine living in a place where that shit happens."
Tylers and ZHers,
Obama is hard at work today. Instead of facing the fact that he blew it when he said that ISIS is contained and ISIS will not be on US soil.
Unbelievable story out of Boston breaking now.
White male in his 40s left a suitcase NEXT TO A HOMELAND SECURITY VAN and walked briskly away. Homeland security xrayed the suitcase and it had wires so they close down that part of Boston and blow the suitcase up. Looks like someone in the van took a picture of the guy.
Those AR's were not set up by this Paki dude and his Saudi wife. The M&P on the right for example has what looks to be an Aim Point red dot sight, with Midwest Industry flip up BUIS (iron sights), a GPS foregrip, and a Magpul single point sling. Looks too proffesional for these clowns.
Anybody can leaf through glossy gun mags at the grocery store. Good grief.
Not an aimpoint red dot
Those arent Magpul slings either.
https://www.magpul.com/products/slings-and-sling-mounts
Strike 1 and strike 2.
Ha, authorities obtained it when FB administrators sent it. d'uh....
Obama " We will take hundreds of thousands of Islamic Migrants, it is the right thing to do."
Go fuck yourself Obama.
Stop bombing Muslims and they will leave us alone and stay home.
Their book says the whole world will be their home, and prescribes how the conquering must be done. 13 centuries of this shit should have been instructive.
The "crisis actors" are baaaack...straight from MSNBC.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UoLET1g-1Zk
If you actually know any Muslim's it becomes clear almost immediately that while they my be friendly they always punctuate any cordial relations with the fact that one day they will kill us, the Christian infidels. Their religion is everything to them and a violation of their religious precepts is equivalent to death because they will never go to heaven.
If you fight a real war against them it is easy to win. If you fight the way we are fighting them then it is impossible to win.
They are waging a war of terror. This is a spy vs spy war. You fight them with spys and not with armies of soldiers or police. Do you not think it is an amazing thing that everyone of these people has been radicalized and always by some means appears on the radar of "our Authorities." In a spy war all these people who appear on that radar would be killed without question and killed immediately as soon as they are of no use. That costs practically nothing to do. It does not take making Homeland security 20 times bigger or sexually molesting everyone at the airports etc. etc. etc..
So since we are not at war with Islam, what is the agenda of those who claim to be fighting such a war?
Every one of the western terrorists in every attack was known beforehand to law enforcement. Perhaps if we simply killed them all in short order (since we know who they are) our profligate spending on law enforcement would be cut?
Here is the answer to your question.
SWAT Team, conducting drills right before San Bernadino shooting.
http://youtu.be/8l444wlmUHU
I'll never forget some months back, Cameron was here with Obama doing a press conference, and ISIL was in the news. But our jewmedia only asked him questions about Iran and the Iran deal and conflated Iran with the Sunni terorrists.
The jewmedia will again try to make this about Iran. After all, it ain't lyin' if it's for Zion.
HOW IS THE LANDLORD HAVING AN OPEN HOUSE TODAY???
The news is showing lady with dog heading in, guy with big gulp, homeless guy (although most CA residents look like homeless people to rest of the country). One would of thought that a thorough investigation would require removing the walls, ceilings, appliances, fixtures etc.
Stephanie on CNN,
That porn magazine was left behind by the FBI. The KY jelly too.
Reporters just stealing everything. Making lunch.
Goddamit, it's "would've" or "would have", not "would of". Fuck we are a retarded society. No wonder we think we can stop terrorism by killing people, and fix a debt bubble with more debt.
What ever happened to the 3rd shooter that was seen at the building? Or the witness that saw one man down at the vehicle and two others take off running in different directions.
I watched the coverage early on and heard the reports of 3 shooters.
That might have been the real shooters, who had nothing to do with the patsies Farook and his wife.
double-post, doh!
They also reported that the third suspect was in custody at one point.
he/she/it ran up the grassy knoll and got away.
Ya...if the little SOB woundn't have took a sharp left they would have caught him.
He was simply defecating on the street. After testing the feces and determining it was a non-explosive and non-toxic type they kicked him in the pants and sent the poor guy on his way.
When I was young I dreamed of being a reporter.
How damn stupid shall we continue to be? THE ONLY WAY TO STOP TERRORISM is to stop BEING TERRORISTS OURSELVES. The USA is a target of terrorism for ONE and ONLY ONE REASON: Our interventionist, imperialist, Big Bully foreign policy. For crying out loud, stop killing Muslims, bring home the troops (all of them), stop bombing other countries, stop overthrowing other governments, stop being BIG FUCKING BULLIES.
Here is a big fucking clue for all you pro-war fools: you don't see Muslim terrorists attacking Mexico, do you? Why not? Because Mexico is not parading all over the fucking globe killing Muslims. I don't pretend to understand all the secret shit that goes on with all the power players in the world; I don't fool myself into believing the official narrative of the War on Terror; I don't trust the mainstream media (which is decidedly NOT liberal, as they are all owned by giant corporations). But I DO KNOW THIS: I don't give a flying fuck about spreading democracy or any other bullshit like that, and the "terrorists" who want to attack inside the USA will do so ONLY because of the fact that we won't leave them the fuck alone.
Quick question: Ever seen the original "Red Dawn"? Those poor teenaged kids who fought so bravely against the Cubans and Russians? Well, of course they were brave. They were defending their homeland against invaders. WE ARE THE INVADERS IN AFGHANISTAN, IRAQ, IRAN, SYRIA, LIBYA, YEMEN, AND DOZENS OF OTHER PLACES. Of course they hate us and want us to leave them alone.
So, that is the heart of the matter: leave them alone, mind our own business. Period. Terrorism against the USA will dissolve. Wake up, sheeple.
uhhhh... Oil? US Dollar? Every country you just wrote down is oil rich and doesn't trade in USD.
We've had 7 years of retreat, disengagement and apologies. Have you not heard? Bin Laden is dead, al Qaeda is on the run, the tides of war are receding. These things are so because Obama said they are so.
Therefore stfu, donnie.
The agenda is moving along nicely......
http://beforeitsnews.com/conspiracy-theories/2015/12/road-to-ww3-time-to...
The agenda is moving along nicely......
http://beforeitsnews.com/conspiracy-theories/2015/12/road-to-ww3-time-to...
Authorities are still searching for a motive...
ISIS terrorists in america get up every morning and pledge allegiance to ISIS on facebook...
The CIA needs some new comedy writers.
I wanna know exactly what was said at the party that prompted him to leave.
It's time to kill everyone?
Dude, he had to go get into character.
Your wife is sick and needs to go to the doctor.
I don't get it where are the passports?
Dont need'em she pledged to Isis on Facebook. really getting ridiculous. ISIS ISIS. FULL WORLD SYRIAN INVASION
Nah... this is clearly work place violence like our retard in charg mentioned. I bet one of the disabled people ragged on her by saying with her hijab, she looked like "the mummy returns" and she got affended and decided the best response would be to slaughter everyone in the building.
Just releasing steam and all.
Crazy F'ers.
And of course, there is no terrorism in paradise.
Sir, that is an insult to retards (lumping them in with King Putt)
Landlord allows Journalists thru boarded killers house. Totally surreal and makes my prior point of manipulated news valid and not conspiracy.
This is an ongoing investigation. Who will investigate the investigators?
http://mashable.com/2015/12/04/san-bernardino-shooters-apartment-journal....
If this was part of a terrorist cell..l..there would be about 9-12 involved not merely 2.
allowing public to rummage thru potential evidence..damages any case later against the others if found and tried..
Quis custodiet ipsos investigators?
So, what was in the apartment that "they" needed to retrieve? Why else would the journalsts be let in like that.
PROBABLY BE ISIS BANNERS AND MEMORABILIA. AMAZING THE PUBLIC GETS TO GO IN ISN'T IT