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Trump Demands "Total & Complete" Shutdown Of Muslims Entering America: Full Recording Of Trump's South Carolina Rally

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Having exclaimed "is that all there is?" following President Obama's speech last night on how he would make Americans safer, Donald Trump appears to have decide to take matters into his own hands. The leading Republican presidential nominee has called for a "total and complete" moratorium on allowing Muslims to enter the United States...

Statement from The Trump Campaign:

(New York, NY) December 7th, 2015,

 

Donald J. Trump is calling for a total and complete shutdown of Muslims entering the United States until our country’s representatives can figure out what is going on.

 

According to Pew Research, among others, there is great hatred towards Americans by large segments of the Muslim population. Most recently, a poll from the Center for Security Policy released data showing “25% of those polled agreed that violence against Americans here in the United States is justified as a part of the global jihad” and 51% of those polled, “agreed that Muslims in America should have the choice of being governed according to Shariah.”  

 

Shariah authorizes such atrocities as murder against non-believers who won’t convert, beheadings and more unthinkable acts that pose great harm to Americans, especially women.

 

Mr. Trump stated, “Without looking at the various polling data, it is obvious to anybody the hatred is beyond comprehension. Where this hatred comes from and why we will have to determine. Until we are able to determine and understand this problem and the dangerous threat it poses, our country cannot be the victims of horrendous attacks by people that believe only in Jihad, and have no sense of reason or respect for human life.

 

If I win the election for President, we are going to Make America Great Again.”

 

– Donald J. Trump

When asked by The Hill whether that would include Muslim-American citizens currently abroad, Trump spokeswoman Hope Hicks replied over email: "Mr. Trump says, 'everyone.'"

As the Hill adds, Trump is quoted in the statement as saying that a significant number of Muslims harbor a "hatred" toward America and as a result should be kept out of the country.He backed statement with a poll by the Center for Security Policy, a think-tank that has criticized the role of Muslims in America. That poll showed that one-quarter of Muslims living in America polled "agreed that violence against Americans here in the United States is justified as part of the global jihad" and that a majority think that Muslims in America should be allowed to answer to Shariah law.

"Without looking at the various polling data, it is obvious to anybody the hatred is beyond comprehension. Where this hatred comes from and why we will have to determine," Trump said. "Until we are able to determine and understand this problem and the dangerous threat it poses, our country cannot be the victims of horrendous attacks by people that believe only in Jihad, and have no sense of reason or respect for human life."

Trump's comments come less than a week after a mass shooting in San Bernardino, Calif., killed 14 people. The alleged shooters were both Muslim, and the federal government is investigating whether the attack was tied to terrorism.

And while we understand Trump's eagerness to bottle up the populist response in the aftermath to San Bernardino, we have one quick question - how will Trump identify Muslims and whether he has a specific plan for how to keep those Muslims already in the segregated from the rest of the population?

Also, for clarification:

  • TRUMP MUSLIM BAN WOULD ALSO APPLY TO TOURISTS, CAMPAIGN MANAGER SAYS -- AP
Does that include alleged, Kenyan-born world leaders who may or may not have doctored their long-form birth certificate?

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And then, kust minutes after Trump unleashed his plan to "deal with" Muslims, Ben Carson trolled in:

"Everyone visiting our country should register and be monitored during their stay as is done in many countries," Carson spokesman Doug Watts said. "We do not and would not advocate being selective on one's religion."

In other words, you get an RFID collar, you get an RFID collar, and everyone gets an RFID collar!

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Finally, for those who missed it, here is the full recording of Donald Trump's speech which just concluded in Mount Pleasant, S.C. in which he lays out his stunning proposal to the thousands of people present, to which he gets a standing ovation.

 

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Mon, 12/07/2015 - 18:00 | 6889906 NidStyles
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Hey now, I don't have tattoos and am not raging or a slob. 

 

Definately not ignorant either.

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 17:50 | 6889851 joego1
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Go Trump! Keep Muslims out of this country unless they will seriously reform their religion.

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 18:41 | 6890140 InjectTheVenom
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it's not a religion.  it's a violent, totalitarian political system

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 19:26 | 6890430 logicalman
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Sounds like the good old US of A!

The last part, I mean, given how obvious the separation of church and state really is.

 

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 22:47 | 6891592 Jerome Lester H...
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Separation of church and state is not penned in any law. You and all the other stormfronters posting on this site can go fuck yourselves..

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 19:57 | 6890605 man of Wool
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There are several million American muslims. If you don't like getting hurt America don't get involved in big boys wars. Blaming Islam just proves how little you understand the world.  

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 17:51 | 6889857 bigrooster
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Can we get rid of the ones that are already here also?

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 20:37 | 6890872 Kirk2NCC1701
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Give them the Quid Pro Quo Offer:

Offer them what they'd offer us:  Convert, Leave or Die.

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 17:51 | 6889860 LawsofPhysics
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The more he talks, the more I am inclined to believe that he is on the DNC's payroll.

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 18:04 | 6889939 two hoots
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Hired by Bill to stir crazy mischief?  They did talk. 

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 18:42 | 6890131 hobopants
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I don't think so, he is just a natural side effect of the current economic situtation. Populism is as old as Rome and the causes for it's rise are still the same. No doubt the dems consider him a gift, but they may regret that... he may pull off a victory with the current mood of the country, or fracture it beyond all hope of repair.

The meaning behind that old Yeats poem becomes clearer and clearer everyday.

"Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold;

    Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world,"

Interesting times have arrived.

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 19:12 | 6890343 11b40
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Totally agree.  There is no way to see what will happen over the next 11 months leading up to the elections.  Circumstances may play to Trump's advantage.

If he wins the nomination and it becomes a Trump v. Clinton match, he will begin to focus like a laser on her weaknesses.  So far, everyone he goes after has dropped like a rock.  He has an uncanny, natural ability to find just the right thing to emphasize that "brands" his opponents.  Perfect example is calling JEB! a low-energy person.  Now, every time I see him, I think yep, low energy.  Even with McCain, the war hero, Trump says he likes heroes who don't get captured.  Just think of all the things he can mock Clinton about, and he would be the perfect one to destroy her tenure at the State Department and ties to the Obummer administration. 

Then, there is that little FBI investigation of her emails simmering on the back burner.  May be nothing, but it is still a big unknown.

Anyone who thinks that Trump has no chance is either poorly informed, in denial, or talking their book.

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 19:18 | 6890385 Buckaroo Banzai
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Speaking of the FBI investigation, it was interesting to see the FBI Director butting heads with Lynch and Obama lately. It is clear that the guy is pursuing his own agenda. Of course, he probably will get fired as a result, but he might create some real embarrasment and problems for Hillary before Obama gets around to pushing him out.

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 21:05 | 6891035 stormsailor
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 And what rough beast, its hour come round at last,
    Slouches towards Bethlehem to be born?  i quoted this poem last week, my head just grabbed it from the swirling ferment of the news.

 

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 18:40 | 6890138 Clycntct
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Is this the part that has you thinking he's on the dncs payroll? "until our country’s representatives can figure out what is going on."

(New York, NY) December 7th, 2015,

 

Donald J. Trump is calling for a total and complete shutdown of Muslims entering the United States until our country’s representatives can figure out what is going on.

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 17:51 | 6889862 Quinvarius
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Japan has a zero percent immigration rate.  We should do the same.

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 18:08 | 6889965 CheapBastard
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You can walk any street any time in Japan and never get knockout punched or beheaded.

 

That's odd.

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 18:10 | 6889977 two hoots
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Seems they understand why they were interned here during WWII?

 

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 17:53 | 6889874 Vlad the Inhaler
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Trump wipes his ass with the 1st Amendment.

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 18:05 | 6889905 ZD1
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Obama wipes his cunt with the Constitution and all the amendments. So does Hillary.

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 18:19 | 6890029 Vlad the Inhaler
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So do you.  "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof;"

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 19:18 | 6890363 ZD1
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Trump calling for the shutdown of Obama's importation of thousands of un-vetted Muslims into the United States neither establishes religion nor prohibits the free expression thereof.

You abuse and twist the Constitution like you do to your cunt .

Tue, 12/08/2015 - 00:18 | 6891934 dogismycopilot
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mother fucker, i keep telling you: Islam is a political ideology and requires all followers to submit to its law and no others. It's a religion AND a political system. where mofucking constitution say we need to import political ideologies to replace the Constitution?

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 18:30 | 6890084 Tallest Skil
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Islam is not a religion. It is a cult of genocide. The first amendment doesn't even remotely apply.

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 23:15 | 6891716 Vlad the Inhaler
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Are you afraid of the government or afraid of Muslims, you gotta decide.  If you are afraid of the government and you let them pull this shit, well that's just dumb.

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 17:55 | 6889881 Jayda1850
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It is beyond frightening to me that people, I thought were sane,  follow and support someone who espouses such facist ideas as advocating a religious database and murdering women and children for guilt by association. I quiver to think of if he is elected and actually tries to institute these policies. What has happened to us as a nation?

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 17:59 | 6889897 joego1
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It's called survival. Wake up to the war.

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 18:02 | 6889921 Jayda1850
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Oh yes I forgot. I will be sure to meet up with you at the next 2 minute hate.

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 18:07 | 6889963 joego1
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I don't hate Muslims I simply want them to reform their hateful religion and until they do I would handle them  as potentially dangerous.

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 18:22 | 6890042 McMolotov
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I'll probably get downvoted for this, but your sentiment is likely the way much of the world views Americans. America's exceptionalism is proclaimed loudly as this country bombs almost every third-world hell-hole around the world, indiscriminantly killing women and children with little to no regard.

How many of us speak out in any meaningful way? Where is the loud opposition? Griping about it on the internet is the closest most of us come to voicing disapproval for what's done in our name, but it doesn't do all that much. If each Muslim is guilty of standing by while extremists commit violence in the name of Islam, then it stands to reason that each American is guilty of standing by while the extremists in our government commit violence in the name of American Exceptionalism.

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 18:54 | 6890050 hobopants
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Fine! Lets ban Americans and Muslims from entering America then. Problem solved.

Hobopants 2016 "Make America smell great again"

Seriously, you do have a point though, both groups are complicit in their silence with regards to the unspeakable crimes commited in their name, but do you think importing more of the same is really going to help matters?

Because we have sinned, we should invite a culturally incompatible people who belong to a cult from the dark ages into our country...not sure I grasp your logic.

We should clean up our own house for sure, but that has nothing to do with inviting in the barbarians.

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 19:32 | 6890463 logicalman
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Pity the Americans didn't tell Columbus to fuck off, along with all the Brits who travelled there to steal the resources of the locals.

Now The US is in the ME, and a fair few other places, doing the same thing.

Same shit, different century.

 

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 19:37 | 6890485 McMolotov
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Not saying we should invite them in. In fact, I suggested the exact opposite in a comment I posted on the article about the IED in Moscow earlier today. Inviting them in is merely a way for our "leaders" to portray themselves as enlightened, to feign compassion for bombing these people's countries into smithereens for reasons that have absolutely nothing to do with freedom and democracy.

Not only are our "leaders" a bunch of warmongers, they're also a bunch of self-satisfied morons.

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 20:07 | 6890588 hobopants
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I totally agree. Rereading your comment, I may have pulled a bit of a strawman on you, apologies.

 

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 20:28 | 6890802 YHC-FTSE
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Not easy being the voice of reason is it? I don't mean to be unkind, but I think the USA deserves Trump and ALL of his ideas. When the camps are full of muslims and the rest of us feel safe, it'll be the hispanics, then the blacks, then the asians, then anyone with different views. He wants to run (down) a country like a corporation - well, dissent is never tolerated in the boardroom, don't you know?

It may seem refreshing & funny to have a presidential candidate so well versed in the art of bullying minorities, appealing to the basest instincts to belittle and hate your fellow man. "One of us" who runs with the fad of the day to extremes so we can enjoy sneering at the "animals and cochroaches" who don't look like us, talk like us, dress like us or think like us. But those smiles will quickly disappear I assure you, with the destruction of innocent people's lives. There were those who joked when the napalm bombs cooked vietnamese kids alive. There were those who looked away. And then there were those who looked, remembered and vowed to fight warmongers wherever they reared their ugly heads. War has always been the easiest option in desperate times and Trump already has his nose far up the backside of Israel. I reckon this Trump is going to be one hell of a warmonger when he tires of taunting minorities and needs to do something about the bankrupt economy he inherited. He is AIPAC's dream candidate, the Zionazi's nazi. But then again, so are they all.

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 20:31 | 6890818 loveyajimbo
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And yet you support a foul liar, extortionist and hard core criminal Hilla-roach.  Shaddap, you foul POS.

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 20:41 | 6890869 YHC-FTSE
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WTF? When did I ever mention support for "Hilla-roach" in over 5 years at ZH? Missed my last sentence did you? AIPAC has bought all the fucking candidates, as usual.

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 20:53 | 6890969 Jayda1850
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it is always if you dont support the red team, you must be shilling for the blue team. As the great Barry Crimmins said, people say if you dont support one side, you must be supporting the other side, "fuck you and fuck your family."

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 23:19 | 6891718 Tall Tom
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Did you vote for Ford or did you vote for Carter in the 1976 Selection?

 

No problem for David Rockefeller as there was a Rockefeller in the White House no matter who won the SELECTION.

 

(Nelson, his brother, was Vice President under Ford. And David started grooming the Peanut Farmer back in 1971. David owned Jimmy Carter.)

 

Likewise the choice for Hillary and Donald reduce to the same.

 

Donald Trump was a registered Democrat, he was a donor to the Clinton Foundation, he helped Hillary in her bid to become the US Senator from New York. He groomed her for the Presidency and that is what he spent his money doing.

 

Trump OWNS Hillary. She is his go-fer...his lackey.

 

Either way, no matter who wins, Donald Trump will have access to the White House.

 

It is no different than what happened in the 1970s.

 

And you are so deluded to think that you have a choice, loveyajimbo.?

 

Well Alabama dispatched Florida last weekend and has that top four seed in the playoffs...So much for Jimbo Fisher there, eh? (He should have just taken the LSU job other than LSU is BANKRUPT.)

 

And this is just like the game between Michigan State and Iowa. No matter what happened...the Big 10 has a College Football Playoff slot. The Big 10 Administrators did not care.

 

(My apologies to the rest of you as this may be the only way to get this Football FANatic to understand that there is NO DIFFERENCE between the choices given and the TWO POLITICAL PARTIES. THEY BELONG TO THE SAME CONFERENCE.)

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 21:27 | 6891170 McMolotov
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I hope things don't get that bad. There's a good chance they might, though. I'm not all that old, but I'm pretty sure goose-stepping would be hell on my joints. I also try to steer clear of brown clothing. It's just not flattering.

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 18:50 | 6890196 hannah
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at least we have toilet paper in the usa. go america. bombing people is good if it keeps the price of gas at the pump around $1.50....no shit.

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 19:18 | 6890387 11b40
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And here is another "exceptional" American!

 

Of course, this is nothing new.  This book ws published in 1958.  Well worth the read.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Ugly_American

"The novel takes place in a fictional nation called Sarkhan (an imaginary country in Southeast Asia that somewhat resembles Burma or Thailand, but which is meant to allude to Vietnam) and includes several real people, most of whose names have been changed.[citation needed] The book describes the United States's losing struggle against Communism due to the ineptness and bungling of the U.S. diplomatic corps[2] stemming from innate arrogance and their failure to understand the local culture."

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 21:14 | 6891094 hannah
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is america is so bad then why did all the gooks want to come here...?

Tue, 12/08/2015 - 09:55 | 6892985 11b40
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ALL the "gooks" did not want to come here, you moron.  You need to spend more time learning and less time running your mouth.  Viet Nam was another false flag war of choice where we Americans inserted ourselves and essentially ruined a country and killed 100,00's of thousands of innocents.  Thanks for proving my point.

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 18:24 | 6890052 JamaicaJim
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I don't hate Muslims I simply want them to STAY IN THEIR OWN FUCKING COUNTRIES, AND IF THEY IMMIGRATE HERE, NOT TO DEMAND ALL SORTS OF SHIT AND ASSIMILATE.....LIKE EVERY BODY FUCKING ELSE....

.................LIKE WE WOULD BE FUCKING FORCED TO IN THEIR GOD DAMNED FUCKING COUNTRIES.

 

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 18:52 | 6890203 where_is the_nuke
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I think if you force your government to stay out of muslim countries you might get what you want. If not that's just a wishful thinking of yours.

Tue, 12/08/2015 - 03:21 | 6892281 Ward no. 6
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you've got a good point

living among the muslims, it is true that they expect special treatment for everything

special prayer time during work etc.

if only the same rights were given to everyone i would not have a problem with them,but in all reality

they have rights others do not

right, if we were in their countries oh boy good luck ....

 

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 18:30 | 6890089 Tallest Skil
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Stop supporting genocide. Why do you support genocide in the first place?

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 19:16 | 6890375 where_is the_nuke
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What?

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 23:08 | 6891686 Tallest Skil
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The Quran demands of its followers a genocide of everyone on Earth who does not believe. This is the behavior of a cult, not a religion. Religious protections need to be removed from Islam.

Tue, 12/08/2015 - 01:00 | 6892029 Vlad the Inhaler
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"It's called survival."  What a chickenshit.  You're more likely to die from a bee sting or lightning than a terrorist attack.  You'd give up your freedom because you're shaking in your boots about the bogeyman under the bed.

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 18:02 | 6889924 jaxville
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 And tell me Jayda....How that differs from current policy? 

  Murder by drone or gov't agents (Waco, Ruby Ridge) isn't really murder when the gov't does it.

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 18:06 | 6889955 Jayda1850
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So it is better to elect someone who reinforces those same atrocities and wants more of them???

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 18:18 | 6890026 knukles
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Jesus 2016  (He's my gardener)

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 18:27 | 6890066 McMolotov
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"Nobody fucks with the Jesus."

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 18:54 | 6890212 knukles
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You fug wid Jesus baby, an he steek you wid his shiv.  You fine your feengers all ober de garden feedin de palnns.

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 18:20 | 6890036 Urban Redneck
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So it is better to elect someone who lies about their planned atrocities, as opposed to someone who is honest about them?

 

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 18:30 | 6890088 Jayda1850
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You're still supporting someone who is willing to commit atrocities! WTF is wrong with you?

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 18:52 | 6890202 Urban Redneck
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I didn't realize Aletheia was something "wrong"...

The only candidate I know who wouldn't comitt atrocities is Incitatus, but I don't think he's going to win, since I seem to be about the only person who regulary votes for him... 

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 19:07 | 6890308 Unix
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1850, the atrocity is that you can type on a keyboard...

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 18:04 | 6889941 Top_Kill
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OK, while you're quivering, the men will take care of business. Just relax, step in your safe space, and don't come out till we tell you the coast is clear. This is not a battle of words and feelings. Real people are at this very moment making plans to end you, your family, your friends, and your co-workers. Strength is the only response that will deliver safety. It isn't what we want but what we need right now.

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 18:56 | 6890230 Calmyourself
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"It isn't what we want but what we need right now." No matter the enemy of the Constitution, we do not want it but will meet it in a dark alley if required.

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 18:11 | 6889966 COL Jackson
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There is nothing facsict about deciding who gets to come into your country.   Every countries does it.  Try to emmigrate to Saudi Arabia to build a church and see how far you get.

An immigration policy should benefit a country.  Islamic countries especially the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia should of had all their visas revoked after 911

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 18:15 | 6890003 Jayda1850
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So there is nothing facist about calling for the targeting of terrorist's families??? A) Who is defining what a terrorist is and B) we are now allowed to kill women and children by guilt of association?

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 18:22 | 6890044 COL Jackson
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Depends on what you mean by targeting.  Should they be jailed for simple association,  no, but if there is evidence of collusion or support they should at the very least be deported.

More to the point of the article, if we dont let them in in the first place then no need to deport them later when there children get their Jihad on.

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 18:27 | 6890070 Jayda1850
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http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2015/12/06/trump_on_isis_they_don...

Trump on Face the Nation

He's talking about killing them, you are arguing semantics.

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 18:34 | 6890106 COL Jackson
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"But I can tell you this," he continues. "They want their families left alone."

Your totally worried about the wrong problem, if you think this sentence translates to kill their families.

The families should receive the same scrutiny they would in any crime case that is planned and executed from a communal home.

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 19:53 | 6890584 Jayda1850
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Bullshit! That is the same excuse used by Gen. Michael Hayden on talking about putting Snowden on a kill list. I said put him on a list, but I didn't specifically say a kill list.

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 19:22 | 6890409 Buckaroo Banzai
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How do YOU behave when someone tells you they want to kill you, acts like they want to kill you, and then actually come to your country and kill you?

You have the mind of an infant.

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 19:29 | 6890441 Jayda1850
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hate to fucking tell you Buckaroo, but the US governemnt is taking your money, out of your fucking pocket, and arming, training and funding these same fucks, all in your name!!

Donald Trump aint gonna change a thing about that.

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 19:53 | 6890582 Buckaroo Banzai
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Yeah dipshit, we have a President who is Muslim according to Sharia law, and was raised Muslim by his Muslim stepfather in a Muslim country, we have a CIA Director who is a well-known crypto-Muslim who converted during his time in Saudi Arabia, and we have an administration riddled with members of the Muslim Brotherhood.

So based on that, I think replacing all of the above with a Trump administration might actually change something.

 

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 19:56 | 6890599 Jayda1850
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Let me know when you finally figure out who the winner is.. red team or blue team? meanwhile we all get fucked up the ass.

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 18:55 | 6890221 brushhog
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Who said anything about killing women and children? What are you even talking about?

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 18:58 | 6890239 Calmyourself
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Children never, women like tashkeen of course, grow up understand the real

world

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 19:05 | 6890304 Unix
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hey jayda, but they can taget our families, gotcha, fucking moron...

go play with you ken and barbie dolls

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 19:10 | 6890332 Jayda1850
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Maybe our own government can stop trying to overthrow all the secular governments in the muslim world as well as arming, funding and training the same terrorists we are supposed to be at war with.

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 19:23 | 6890416 Buckaroo Banzai
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Only intelligent thing you have said on this thread.

Why, it's almost as if there is an actual Muslim in the White House, isn't it?

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 19:34 | 6890468 Jayda1850
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you are a complete fool if you think this is all Obama's fault. The deep state doesn't give a shit who the president is, there is an election every 4 years. These people have been in power for 20+. The president along with our elected reps are nothing but paid puppets.

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 19:52 | 6890579 Calmyourself
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He does not have complete control we all know this..  He has inordinate power nevertheless..  He is obviously not sympathetic to the American people and their concerns, this makes him at very least a Leftist narcissistic asshole at worst a true Manchurian candidate.

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 19:57 | 6890609 Buckaroo Banzai
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OK then, please explain why the Deep State decided to put a Muslim in the White House, a crypto-Muslim as head of the CIA, and allowed the administration to be riddled with Muslim Brotherhood members...unless they are supporting the Muslim invasion and/or defeat of the USA?

When the "puppet" wants you dead, and is doing everything it can to kill you, does it really matter who is pulling the puppet's strings?

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 20:02 | 6890634 Jayda1850
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Because the world needs a boogie man. So we all agree that ISIS is a proxy used in foreign affairs, but no one will admit that they also maybe a proxy used in domestic affairs as well?? what...does critical thinking stop at american borders?

Tue, 12/08/2015 - 00:26 | 6891949 dogismycopilot
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you lost me a long time ago when you said you supported Muslim Immigration: Mate, newsflash, NOT EVEN GCC COUNTRIES SUPPORT MUSLIM IMMIGRATION INTO THEIR COUNTRIES BECAUSE THEY KNOW THE RADICALS WILL BRING THEM DOWN!

So, are the GCC countries being Nazis by not letting their following Muslims in? 

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 19:48 | 6890553 cheech_wizard
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Scorched earth policy is sometimes the only way.

It took the Romans 3 Punic Wars to figure that out...

Standard Disclaimer: 1) There is no one to follow up with future acts of revenge. 2) The rest of the world has been dealing with Islam for well over 10 centuries now. How's that working out?

 

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 19:27 | 6890434 Oldrepublic
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Western expats in the KSA who hold bible classes in their own homes for other Western expats get arrested!

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 18:45 | 6890169 Clycntct
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Science Fiction it makes for good reading.

Quivering it makes for your fked up thoughts.

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 21:03 | 6891029 tmosley
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This is war. We didn't start it, our leaders did. We have to do something to defend ourselves.

It would be best if we could simply admit in public that Saudi Arabia and associated Wahhabist countries are at war with the people of the United States of America (and people all over the West), but we can't. Nor are we competent to make a distinction between these barbarians and their cousins. But we have to do something to protect ourselves.

The best solution would be to remove our current government from power, but we are not competent to pick another that will have different policies.

This is a complete failure of democracy. All other statist systems have been tried and failed similarly. The best way forward is libertarianism, minarchism, and/or anarchocapitalism.  As an Anarchocapitalist, I can see this, but that simply isn't in the cards.

I suspect that Trump will move the US back toward a system of "National Capitalism" that I described above. Ironically, despite its lack of equal protection under the law, it is a step away from the deep state, so it is good. A symptom of how far we have fallen as a nation and as a civilization.

This is an example of allowing the good to be the enemy of the perfect.

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 21:17 | 6891118 Jayda1850
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This is war. We didn't start it, our leaders did. We have to do something to defend ourselves.

Trump is not moving the country toward national capitalism, but national socialsim. Have you not heard his arguments for eminent domain???

 

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 17:56 | 6889886 juggalo1
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Here's a nice scary thought for you.  The first time Hitler demanded the chancellorship, the Nazis lost the next election.  After the loss he used his popularity and paramilitary to further destabilze the country, and was elected on a platform of providing order.  That to me seems like a more realistic path.

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 17:56 | 6889887 Sudden Debt
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He's a moron. America actually will vote trying to find the least worse president...

since when did that become a option?

This is actually the first time since ever that America only had traitors, killers and crooks as candidates!

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 18:09 | 6889969 BandGap
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Trump is unelectable in a general election. He gains notoriety stating things that simply cannot be done. And yet he is still better than what we currently have in office......

I disagree that there aren't candidates that are much better than what we have seen in the past 30+ years, at least from a moral perspective.

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 18:15 | 6890004 Sudden Debt
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They aren't candidates if they don't have a billion or two so even as there are many names to start with, only those with the backing matter.

 

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 18:18 | 6890024 Sturm und Drang
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If they're a candidate, they have long lost any morals or claim to any high-ground thereof. Satan already has their soul.

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 19:04 | 6890281 Unix
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I dunno, we need SOMEONE to do the right thing.

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 19:42 | 6890471 11b40
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Trump will drop out by July.

Trump will drop out as soon as his poll numbers start going down a little.

Trump will drop out before he has to disclose his financial records.

Trump's popularity will fade in the fall as people start to seriously consider who they will actually vote for.

Trump will shoot himself in the foot by making outrageous statements.

Trump can never get the GOP nomination.

....and now BanGap the Clairvoyant lets us know that Trump is unelectable in a general election.  To which I say.....stay tuned.  11 months is a long time, and there are any number of scenarios that Trump could end up winning the whole ball of wax.  If he becomes the GOP candidate, he has a 50/50 chance of beating Clinton, in my opinion.  There are plenty of things for him to tie around her neck and set on fire, and he has a unique way of doing things like that.  If something happens to her, and if somehow Bernie is the nominee, Trump will pound him like Ali pounded Frazier.

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 17:58 | 6889892 rbgnr111
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humm... reminicent of other times... maybe the next thing will be that we need to create "Inturnment camps" for the muslims that are already here...

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 18:55 | 6890225 hannah
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so whats wrong ....all the mussies would go 'in-turn' to the camps as you put it.....

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 17:59 | 6889896 Crocodile
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Gee Trump, Hillary or a Bush...lots of choices..no solutions since Presidents are SELECTED & NEVER elected.

 

I refer back to Mark Twain "If voting made any difference they wouldn't let us do it."

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 18:00 | 6889908 TuPhat
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How do know they are muslim?  Ask them to eat a ham sandwich and swear on a bible that Mohamed was a child molester.  If they pass that test they might not be muslim.

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 18:03 | 6889937 jaxville
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 I don't trust anyone who doesn't eat bacon

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 18:07 | 6889958 Sanity Bear
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I'm getting to the point where I don't trust anyone whose great-grandparents aren't buried here. We've been importing invaders and enemies for three generations now.

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 18:10 | 6889974 BandGap
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Or doesn't drink beer....

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 18:21 | 6889994 Sturm und Drang
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It's always been starched creases on denim jeans that's a trust red flag for me.

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 18:57 | 6890235 knukles
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... on denim MOM jeans ...  and throws like a pussy ... 
There.  I said it.  Pussy.  So fire me, FOX News.
Pussy pussy pussy pussy pussy pussy pussy pussy pussy pussy

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 21:58 | 6891333 medium giraffe
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I think I'm getting an erection.

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 18:01 | 6889911 Tinky
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Reporter: Mr. Trump, these issues are obviously very complex, but could you summarize your plan so that the average American might understand it?

Trump: Towel-top tourniquet.

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 18:01 | 6889912 Sturm und Drang
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That might put a crimp in the H1Bs though...

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 18:02 | 6889919 1stepcloser
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why stop there?  Can we kick out jew bankers as well?

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 18:35 | 6890112 Lucky Leprachaun
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Careful.  Look what happened to the last guy who tried that....

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 19:01 | 6890263 Unix
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ya, he went after the seeeecret societies...bunch of Lucifarian cunts.

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 18:03 | 6889930 hotrod
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(New York, NY) December 7th, 2015,

 

Donald J. Trump is calling for a total and complete shutdown of Muslims entering the United States until our country’s representatives can figure out what is going on.

 

THIS IS A FAIR REQUEST.  THEY ARE COMING AS FIANCES, REFUGEES, TOURISTS ETCETC. AND IT APPEARS ACCORDING TO THE HOUSE SECURITY AGENCY THAT MANY TERRORISTS WERE AMONG REFUGEES.  TOALLY A FAIR REQUEST BY TRUMP

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 18:05 | 6889947 Sturm und Drang
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Bullish for Spanish Rosetta Stone sales in the ME...

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 18:04 | 6889940 Duc888
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"ISIS has targeted refugee program to enter US, Homeland Security chairman say"

 

LOL

http://thehill.com/policy/national-security/262316-isis-has-targeted-ref...

 

 

....a little late there Donald.

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 19:51 | 6890573 cheech_wizard
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Because doing nothing has worked so well...

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 18:06 | 6889956 two hoots
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Obama confuses "that's not what we are" with "that's not what I am".  This is not about the Obama agenda, it is about our country.

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 18:08 | 6889967 Sizzurp
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The leftists always try to paint the right with images of Hitler and Nazis. They have been doing this since the William Buckley vs Gore Vidal debate in 1968.  Buckley nearly kicked Vidal's ass on live TV over the insult. Hitler was leader of the National socialists.  Hardly a conservative sort, and ceratainly not in favor of gun rights, or limited governement.  I have more fear of the radical Islamic enemy in our midst, than Trump. Last I checked Trump wasn't leading an army of brownshirts. Pew polling shows 25% of muslims think Jihad is righteous, and 51% of them want to be governed by sharia law.  The Koran lables non-believers as inferior.  Who are the real Nazi's?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nYymnxoQnf8

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 18:22 | 6890041 Vlad the Inhaler
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Muslim terrorists might blow up a few people here and there, but only the government can kill millions.

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 18:55 | 6890223 Sizzurp
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True that. But if you allow islamic enemy infiltrators to run around your country performing acts of mayhem and sabotage, massive government oppression is exactly what you will get in response.  If you want a small gov., you can't allow a covert murderous group, that has declared war on you, to run around freely in your country.  

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 19:04 | 6890295 Sturm und Drang
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... "[...]if you allow islamic enemy infiltrators to run around your country performing acts of mayhem[...]"

 

Durden's a muzzie?

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 18:09 | 6889970 Sturm und Drang
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How about we keep EVERYBODY out for a few years.

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 18:15 | 6890007 COL Jackson
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It worked for old silent Cal.  20 year moratorium sounds about right so this whole cultural marxism thing can run its course, and the 45 million first generation immigrants in this country can assimilate.

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 18:16 | 6890009 jomama
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Americans are a stupid lot.

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 18:24 | 6890051 Stroke
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Americans are goverend by a stupid lot

 

There, fixed it for ya

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 19:00 | 6890257 Unix
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Stroke, Now I can get on board with that!

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 19:04 | 6890290 yellowsub
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So what does that make Americans to allow stupidtiy to reign supreme?

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 19:05 | 6890303 Sturm und Drang
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sheep

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 22:11 | 6891401 Hyjinx
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Comfort.  We are unique in that the actions of our gov't doesn't have immediate ramifications for most of us.  So problems fester and get worse.  However when these actions of politicians do catch up with the average Joe, watch out!

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 18:27 | 6890068 1223pm
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95% of any country's population is stupid but american are like 9 years old kid with loaded gun.

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 18:59 | 6890244 Unix
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1223pm, like I said to Mohammad, your fuck buddy...

Take a cricket bat, wrapped in barbed wire, slathered with napalm, light it up, then jam it up your ass!

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 19:03 | 6890282 jomama
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About this poles up asses fetish you have. We don't need to know about it.

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 19:50 | 6890567 Unix
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well you would know metro sexual, don't you have a fallen angel to go fuck? thought so.

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 20:14 | 6890709 InTheLandOfTheBlind
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talk about digging one's own grave...  you should learn to shut your hole when it is the wise think to do

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 18:56 | 6890233 Unix
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jamama, or is it Mohammad? You don't have a dog in the hunt, so STFU mama's boy...how is Lonodonistan this time of year? Stick it up your little chuffer!

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 19:02 | 6890258 jomama
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I'm definitely a whiter Euro-mutt than you are, and like what... 22nd generation American?

 

You're so pathetic I feel like a bully insulting you.

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 19:49 | 6890556 Unix
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LOL, so your a pussy metro sexual european white trash, good for you.

You insult me? nah, you are a nickel holding up a dime.

don't have some fudge to pack, freemason? bwahahahaha

See how easy that is, come on, you can do it...

BTW my family was here from the beginning, whupping up on your eurotrash...how do you like me now faggot?

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 20:26 | 6890788 logicalman
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Define 'beginning' please.

Oh, and stop with the dumbass insults, unless your intention is to make yourself look stupid. If that is your intention, you are doing a very good job.

 

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 18:17 | 6890015 TXSOONER
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He's EXACTLY right. That's a good one about the Kenyan guy. No problem for me with that.

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 18:19 | 6890022 GRDguy
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It would be much better for the United States to have a complete shutdown of financial sociopaths entering public office. 

Starting with Trump, Hillary, Bush, etc. etc. etc.

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 18:29 | 6890078 1223pm
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Come back to gold standard all problems will be solved.

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 20:27 | 6890797 logicalman
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Not all problems.

The problems for the banksters would just be beginning, but I'm OK with that.

 

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 18:20 | 6890037 trader1
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nobody leaves either.

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 18:27 | 6890039 g'kar
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i'd rather he said:

"anyone illegally in the country including those here through the state department's illegal immigration program will be immediately deported. anyone here with dual citizenship shall be granted one chance to renounce their dual citizenship or be deported. the borders will be open for any american to leave or return without restriction however anyone attempting to enter illegally will have their asses thrown immediately back over the border with no representation or day in court and this includes pregnant women. any individuals or groups supporting illegal immigration like the state department, lulac, la raza etc....will immediately be disbanded. all government unions will be immediately disbanded to remove the power base that allows this and other crimes to continue"

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 18:31 | 6890093 Lucky Leprachaun
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Wow, wouldn't that be something?  Problem is, Donald would meet with a fatal accident shortly afterwards.

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 18:33 | 6890103 g'kar
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hope i wasn't to vague as to my position

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 18:42 | 6890152 Unix
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g'kar, Not at all, I think you are spot on! 

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 20:31 | 6890819 logicalman
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Better if he said 'America will stop fucking up other countries so that the citizens of those countries would prefer to stay at home'

That would fix the problem real quick.

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 22:13 | 6891416 Hyjinx
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Problem is we don't have to fuck up those places for them to be fucked up, they do that very well all on their own.  So, FUCK THEM!

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 18:27 | 6890069 falak pema
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No moar Ali babas and wine jars?

And to think there are 111/2 million illegals in sweat shops in the US of A.

where is Aladdin's lamp to light up the American sky?

I guess its lost somewhere in Aleppo between a dead kamel and his dump.

Elon Musk wants Aladdin's lamp/

COP 21 wants Aladdin's lamp.

But Donald Duck says fuck Scherazade.

Oh well, Scherazade better head back to Syrac.

To Baghdad where it all began 1200 years ago.

Baghdad café before the Mongols.

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 18:27 | 6890072 jm
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I don't hate them. I just don't want them spreading their crap over here.

If you want to live according to rules set up by backward minds even by 9th century standards, then Saudi is for you. 

 

 

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 18:32 | 6890098 1223pm
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What rules are we talking about? killing millions because they have no atomic bomb and have oil?

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 18:40 | 6890137 Unix
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LOL, hey commie your heart is gonna bleed out, better get that looked at...last I looked they were killing people on our streets. get an education then a life, better yet go play with your ken and ken dolls, moron!

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