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6 Of 8 Trump Supporters Stand Behind Muslim Travel Ban; Muslims Furious

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Yesterday's stunning announcement by Donald Trump calling for a "total and complete" shutdown of Muslims entering the US (even US citizens), has unleashed a media frenzy across both the political and media world, and proven the real estate tycoon still has the capacity to not only shock but to serve as Obama's political foil at every turn.

Furthermore, as Trump acknowledged Monday during a raucous South Carolina rally, his call for barring all Muslim foreigners from entering the United States is "probably not politically correct." But as CNN reported earlier, he had three words for his critics: "I don't care."

Perhaps just as surprising, is that as he usually does, Trump once again managed to do what he has done so well during his campaign process - strike a chord with a prevailing undercurrent of what Trump admits is politically incorrect sentiment within US society. And if his South Carolina rally was any indication, that support will stick.

The reason: six of eight Trump supporters at the rally who spoke with CNN said they supported the Muslim travel ban, which has drawn swift criticism from other Republican and Democratic presidential contenders alike who slammed the proposal as contrary to American values of religious tolerance. And the two supporters at the rally who disagreed said they were still likely to vote for Trump.

"I think that we should definitely disallow any Muslims from coming in. Any of them. The reason is simple: we can't identify what their attitude is," said 75-year-old Charlie Marzka of Myrtle Beach, South Carolina. Marzka explained that he believes Islam "allows for the killing of people" and said he thinks Muslim culture "is absolutely contrary to our culture."

Trump explained Monday on Fox News that his proposal would not apply to Muslim Americans and Muslims already living legally in the United States.

"It does not apply to people living in the country, except we have to be vigilant," Trump said on Fox News moments before he took the stage in South Carolina.

Far from backtracking, however, Trump warned supporters that without his controversial proposals - which in addition to banning Muslim immigrants includes surveilling and potentially shutting down mosques - the U.S. could face another deadly attack on the scale of 9/11.

"We're gonna have to figure it out, we can't live like this. It's going to get worse and worse, we're going to have more World Trade Centers. It's going to get worse and worse, folks. We can be politically correct and we can be stupid but it's going to be worse and worse," Trump added.

And that approach is why three-quarters of snap polled rally participants agreed with Trump even if one protester's voice - one of five protester interruptions on Monday night - broke through the cheers. "This is racist bullshit," he chanted.

So as Trump rallies his core base, his approval rating among the Muslim population will be a solid zero.

The Associated Press asked Muslims around the world for their thoughts on his proposal. This is what a random sampling of them thought:

AYA, a 22-year-old college graduate in Cairo who declined to give her full name for fear of alienating her family:"

"I was born to Muslim parents and wore the veil at a young age. Now I am an atheist, but I can't tell anyone or take it off because they will probably kill me. My question to Donald Trump is: How do you know the Muslim you are banning is actually Muslim? Don't you think an extremist can fake denounce Islam and enter as a Christian or an atheist and still blow up your country? This is not how you fight terrorism; this is how you fan it."

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BASSEM YOUSSEF, former talk show host known as the Jon Stewart of the Middle East:

(On Twitter) "I didn't know Donald Trump was fluent in Nazi."

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TAREQ, 22-year-old college student in Cairo

"I don't pray. I drink. I try to sleep around. All my friends do. I am about as Muslim as (Trump) is. Ban Muslims? Does he have any idea how many Muslims are just Muslims on paper?"

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YARA FARIS, 23-year-old journalist in the West Bank. She hopes to study international journalism at Columbia University:

"The U.S. will always be the best place to study, and I don't think the U.S. would deny Muslims entry just because they are Muslims."

"I see Trump as a crazy man. He always gives crazy statements and recently I read a report that shows that 60 percent of Trump's statements were based on wrong information."

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USAMA SALLAH, prominent Palestinian businessman in Jerusalem who lived in the U.S. for 14 years

"I think that these statements are a shame. This is not the United States that I knew, and I'm sure that the majority of the Americans don't agree with it because it doesn't represent American values."

"I will continue to visit the United States whenever possible because I know that America is a great country in which there is no place for such racist opinions. And for those who agree with him, I ask: How would you feel if Arab and Muslim countries decided to ban Americans from entering them?"

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AHMED JALAJEL, Palestinian journalist in east Jerusalem who visited the U.S. last year as part of a State Department-sponsored program:

"I'm sure that what I heard from Trump doesn't represent the United States. In America, I have seen a democratic country, nice people who love life, a great country that is ready to receive people from all over the world and a country of great values that Trump certainly doesn't represent."

"As a Muslim, I don't think that Trump represents the United States; he only represents himself."

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SAM BAHOUR, a Palestinian-American business consultant who moved from Youngstown, Ohio, to Ramallah, West Bank, in the 1990s, called the comments "disgraceful" and "absurd."

"The backlash is going to be against Muslims. The Muslim community understands the inherent racism in some pockets of U.S. political life."

"This makes the melting pot not melt at the end of the day."

Bahour said relatives in the U.S. have been telling him "how they are hearing comments in the street, supermarkets, really racist comments. It's not going to be the same being a Muslim in America, even once this passes."

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AZIZA YOUSEF, a computer science professor at King Saud University in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia:

"He's racist... I think Trump is representing himself. I don't think he represents Americans."

"Why is it that when there are crazy people who happen to be Muslim, they blame all Muslims? I will not be responsible for someone who commits a crime who happens to be a Muslim. I will not defend myself or defend Islam because a guy or person who happens to be Muslim did something stupid."

Yousef is traveling to her vacation home in Virginia this weekend with her children and grandchildren as she does every year.

"I spend a lot of money there three to four months out of the year. Muslim tourists and those that live there as students help the economy of the United States."

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SOMCHAI JEWANGMA, an officer with Thailand's Sheikhul Islam Office, which governs the country's Muslims:

"I don't think that can ever be done. The United States has economic ties with Islamic countries and there are millions of Muslim people in America. This is just a policy to please those who don't like Muslims and to gain more support."

"It's true that there are Muslim extremists, those who don't have good intentions for Islam. But there are 1.7 billion Muslim people in the world. If we were all bad, then the world would be uninhabitable."

Somchai also said entry rules already have become stricter: "When I applied for a U.S. visa, I was inspected for months."

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AZRA KHAN, president of the Canberra Islamic Center in Australia, said Trump's proposal is the wrong way to address last week's attack in San Bernardino, California, in which a Muslim couple killed 14 people:

"Clearly Donald Trump is trying to inflame the situation. Clearly this tragedy is not about Muslims."

"He could better improve the situation if he were to say, 'Let the U.S. take guns more seriously and ban them.' That one simple solution would be much more suitable and make the streets of America far safer."

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NUR JAZLAN MOHAMAD, Malaysian deputy home minister, said the proposal is not aligned with America's image as tolerant and democratic, and could play into the Islamic State group's hands by alienating Muslims who are already in the U.S."

"His proposal reflects the thinking of many people in America, and this is worrying."

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KEYSAR TRAD, the chairman of the Sydney-based Islamic Friendship Association of Australia, said Trump's statement reflected political desperation.

"Donald Trump's statement is a desperate statement by a desperate man who knows that he's clutching at straws and has no chance of winning the election. So he's trying to win it off the back of the Islamophobia industry."

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AMIDAN SHABERAH, the chairman of the Indonesian Council of Ulemas, an influential clerics' organization, said Trump's comments were a "big, big mistake."

"He should not turn a blind eye to the fact that most of Muslims in the world strongly condemned any kind of extremism and radicalism in the name of Islam and our hearts and prayers go out to all victims of terrorism regardless of their faith."

"Trump's statement clearly shows us that Western society has a phobia against Islam, that people cannot distinguish between Islam and terrorist acts that rejected by mainstream Muslims."

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IKEBAL PATEL, former president of the Australian Federation of Islamic Councils:

"He's trying to alienate not only the Muslim population of the United States but all the Muslims around the world.

"Nobody in their right mind would in any way condone what has just happened with those two individuals in that town, but to condemn in one fell swoop all the Muslims and to try to suggest that Muslims shouldn't be allowed in America is quite ridiculous."

 

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Tue, 12/08/2015 - 10:54 | 6893300 milo_hoffman
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What is scary is the totally unhinged responses to this perfectly reasonable solution that any soverign country can implement.

Tue, 12/08/2015 - 10:53 | 6893301 milo_hoffman
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Norway is now paying muslim immigrants to leave. It won't be long before the offers from other countries in Europe are not voluntary. 

 

Halting immigration in the US as has been done many times throughout history for a few years may help the US avoid the same problems as the European countries now face.

Tue, 12/08/2015 - 10:54 | 6893304 Government need...
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Any US elected official interested in lowering the rate of criminal mayhem would propose a plan to better vet Islamists coming into the country.  Keeping them out until a better plan can be devised and implemented is prudent.

Tue, 12/08/2015 - 10:56 | 6893313 jdavismemphis
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Israel has done quite a number on the US.

Tue, 12/08/2015 - 11:08 | 6893323 Zero-Hegemon
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We're all being played like a cheap fiddle.

1. Muslim extremism (ISIS, etc.)

2. Muslim immigration (The extermists are coming! But they really are...)

3. Muslim shooters (Here come the gun grabbers!)

4. Trump whipping up white people into a frenzy (Xenophobia, justified IMO)

5. Pissed off, fed up, white people (Surprised? Not me, I'm one of them)

6. White shooters (Target a mosque?)

7. Executive orders (Gun grabbers at your door)

8. Anything goes (for big government, Molon Labe, one bullet at at time, cold dead hands...)

9. We're fucked.

If you believe what you read on ZH it's the zionists and "jewish" Saudis that are using the muslim horde to destroy white culture in the Western Hemisphere. I wish I could say it wasn't so but it's very hard to say otherwise in light of everything that's happening in the world these days. And before you say that the cause of all the unrest was US bombing other countries, don't forget it was the US-based dual-citizenship zionists that have always been the first ones (Richard Perle, etc.) ready to push for the bombing of muslim countries, to stir up the nest and destabilize them. The policies of "creative destruction".

Tue, 12/08/2015 - 10:58 | 6893325 NoWayJose
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A LOT of editorials latched onto Trump and Pearl Harbor - invoking Jewish refugees, Nazis labeling Jews, and Japanese internment camps. Of course the target is really Trump. Yet these same editorials raise questions about fighting a 'modern' enemy that has no country, while still trying to protect our freedoms. And of course, they offer no solutions on how to do this - other than to criticize the solutions that Trump proposes. If the MSM would do their job, they would do more than gather sound bites of people criticizing Trump - and ask the critics - "What would you do instead?"

Tue, 12/08/2015 - 11:41 | 6893619 Barrack Chavez
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Franklin D Roosevelt -- democrat, staunch labor/union advocate, and rightly/wrongly credited with fixing the depression said both of the following:

(1) Public unions should never be allowed. Public unions are an act of treason, as union membership would entail them going against the will of the people

(2) After Pearl Harbor: All persons of Japanese decent, regardless of citizenship, are to be rounded up by law and placed in internment camps. We are at war with Japan

I don't hear the extremist assholes at CNN saying FDR was a racist.

Tue, 12/08/2015 - 12:08 | 6893820 Zero-Hegemon
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"I don't hear the extremist assholes at CNN saying FDR was a racist."

Welcome to the memory hole.

Tue, 12/08/2015 - 11:02 | 6893337 Sizzurp
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Try proselytizing for christianity, or building a church in Saudi Arabia and see what happens.  You could be executed there for such atrocities, but the muslims are furious at Trump.

Tue, 12/08/2015 - 11:06 | 6893362 NoWayJose
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You don't hear of many Christian missionaries that were sent to Middle Eastern countries... Or maybe it should read - you NEVER hear back from any Christian missionaries sent to the Middle East...

Tue, 12/08/2015 - 14:12 | 6894741 zstard
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I personally know Christian missionaries who went to the ME. They had 1 convert after years of work partly because the people said they might be killed if they converted to Christianity from Islam.

Tue, 12/08/2015 - 19:04 | 6896333 Bazza McKenzie
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The mahommedans, including Obama, are furious at Trump because he has publicly outed them and refuses to shut up or back down.

They really, really do not want the truth to be told.

Throughout the west they have bought or threatened pantywaist politicians to give in to them and to subjugate the interests of the citizens of their countries.  Now there is a leader who refuses to play that game and all their past efforts are at risk.  So of course they are furious.

Tue, 12/08/2015 - 11:03 | 6893339 NoWayJose
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Trump is right when he says it will get worse. A lot of critics will be eating their words after the next (inevitable) attack.

Tue, 12/08/2015 - 11:06 | 6893363 Falconsixone
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Sounds like America lead by it's jewish intolerance. Good for you. I guess getting out of the oil pockets with bombs wouldn't help? Or tossing the leaders of this shit hole (govt and corperate) out in to the mid east. Fuck the SOB's running this circus.

Tue, 12/08/2015 - 11:06 | 6893365 corporatewhore
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London.

 

Dearborn.

 

Assimilation.

 

All summed up.  Come to your own conclusions.

Tue, 12/08/2015 - 13:16 | 6893445 John C Durham
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Government and Media smear Muslims every time they call ISIS, al Qaeda, Taliban, "Freedom Fighters", etc., ISLAMISTS! All American's (not just Trump) are confused and ignorant of the DIFFERENCE between Takfiri Wahhabi CULTS (Muslim Brotherhood member in the case of Turkey's present leader, etc) created by UK/CIA/Pakistan/Saudi/Qatar/Israel/Turkey intelligence labs, COMPARED to teachings of the Prophet Mohammed.
All the fine people quoted above do not, for some reason, directly attack this synthetic cult fraud group. They too, contribute to the continuing ignorance of Americans and others. So, Muslims deserve what they get after letting stupid talk go on in Western Press for 14 years now. (I should point out that within a week of 9/11, Oct.1,2001,The SPECTATOR of London, pointed out the Wahhabi connection to Taliban/al Qaeda. But, nothing since!) ISIS has nothing to do with Mohammed or the Koran, which ISIS controllers exchanged with new innovations of Sharia terror. It's not a religious group but mercenaries hired by the fronts for Terror, i.e., those nations listed above.
Muslims need to constantly point out that Allah is greater than Mohammed. Mohammed is greater than interpretations given, even by those writers who originally produced the Quran, long after His death. And, that the Quran and Hadith is greater than Sharia.

Tue, 12/08/2015 - 11:19 | 6893446 Berspankme
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Trump is not completely wrong but says it in a very ineloquent way.
The problem is a broken immigration system that needs to be shut down.
All of the muslims that committ murder have been here legally

Tue, 12/08/2015 - 11:20 | 6893454 TXSOONER
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Are you kidding me? Who gives a flying f.... what the 20 something musims in the middle east think? NO ONE.

Tue, 12/08/2015 - 11:27 | 6893498 PrimalScream
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So if   The Donald   declares war on every Muslim and Hispanic in the world, how many new enemies do we have?  I'm thinking ...  at least 2 billion people. 

Tue, 12/08/2015 - 11:30 | 6893525 BendGuyhere
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"Muslims are furious": SO WHAT?

In the western liberal catechism I'm supposed to dissolve in tears every time a member of an official 'victim' group is upset or offended.

Muslims are, by definition, VIOLENT FILTHY ANIMALS. A travel ban is the only immediate way to contain this dogma of extreme violence.

Huma Abedin is MORE THAN WELCOME to get off the clinton gravy train and emigrate her brown ass to Iran, Iraq, Saudi Arabia or any other muslim shithole of her choice. There she WILL be made to SHUT THE FUCK UP and cover her fugly self with a black bag, head to toe. Come on Huma: do it for Hillary, DO IT FOR JESUS.....

Tue, 12/08/2015 - 11:30 | 6893526 BendGuyhere
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"Muslims are furious": SO WHAT?

In the western liberal catechism I'm supposed to dissolve in tears every time a member of an official 'victim' group is upset or offended.

Muslims are, by definition, VIOLENT FILTHY ANIMALS. A travel ban is the only immediate way to contain this dogma of extreme violence.

Huma Abedin is MORE THAN WELCOME to get off the clinton gravy train and emigrate her brown ass to Iran, Iraq, Saudi Arabia or any other muslim shithole of her choice. There she WILL be made to SHUT THE FUCK UP and cover her fugly self with a black bag, head to toe. Come on Huma: do it for Hillary, DO IT FOR JESUS.....

Tue, 12/08/2015 - 11:30 | 6893533 die standing
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One cannot oppose an apparent opposite as each force is the cause of the other.

Opposition is a characteristic appearance of all effects of motion and has existence only as an appearance

A stoppage of motion of people in "the American system" will only transfer inertia back to the opposition, sequentially, and in reversed polarity.

Confounding matter and motion... NOT HISOTRICALLY AWESOME.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Tue, 12/08/2015 - 11:33 | 6893556 BeerMe
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Trump should just come out and say travel ban for everybody until further notice.  That would be the fair thing to do.

Tue, 12/08/2015 - 14:54 | 6894981 Praeda2
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"fair thing to do."... I don't think you're old enough to have a beer.

Tue, 12/08/2015 - 11:33 | 6893558 Omega_Man
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Donald, get these FEMA camps running full steam!! Put the bankers in there too

Tue, 12/08/2015 - 11:44 | 6893648 Skiprrrdog
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And ALL HFT traders/trading companies...

Tue, 12/08/2015 - 11:35 | 6893576 RevIdahoSpud3
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The Muslims are predominately non-educated perhaps lower IQ in general and are found to be manipulated easily. They make for being the perfect useful idiots, and a focal point for those of us who know "something" is wrong and they satisfy a need to blame someone as the cause of the wrong. The question is who is the real enemy? Who is doing the manipulation of the weak minded Muslims to act as a foil for activites that undermine Western and or American culture? The general rank and file of Muslims are not intelligent enough to create the mayhem that is being produced. Their role is to fulfill a visable presence of a "bad guy". You could essentially compare muslims with a bullet. A bullet does damage but it has to be loaded in a gun first. Who is the gun? Who is loading the Gun? This article is a focus on Muslims or Islam and Trump is smart to tap into the public fear and exploit it, but, for his own gain. Other articles here a ZH discuss "deep state", and when they do some of you same commenters seem to offer introspective analysis of who deep state is including the role Zionists play. All of a sudden, in an article such as this the other reality is forgotten and the Muslim element is so concentrated on that it appears it IS the only ill that we have to contend with. I'm not defending Muslims or Islam. I would prefer they stay the hell away, wipe with their right and shake with their left or visa versa. The comments on this day in December for this article seem to me to represent a frustration, a venting of emotions and almost a schizophrenia. The real enemy is left out of most of these comments.

Tue, 12/08/2015 - 11:42 | 6893626 Barrack Chavez
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Franklin D Roosevelt -- democrat, staunch labor/union advocate, and rightly/wrongly credited with fixing the depression said both of the following:

(1) Public unions should never be allowed. Public unions are an act of treason, as union membership would entail them going against the will of the people

(2) After Pearl Harbor: All persons of Japanese decent, regardless of citizenship, are to be rounded up by law and placed in internment camps. We are at war with Japan

I don't hear the extremist assholes at CNN saying FDR was a racist. CNN is the problem.

Tue, 12/08/2015 - 11:44 | 6893642 rejected
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Well, unfortunately,  now I understand the hysteria behind the Japanese internment. People hyped up by government scare tactics can be easily herded into doing, saying anything. 9/11, The patriot act, The fondling TSA at airports. Most of the supposed mass shootings are in my opinion government operations to scare people to give up their weapons,,, and it's working. My America is dead. Being late in age it doesn't matter for me. Too bad for the sold out younger generations. They'll volunteer to be government fodder never to experience even the slightest liberty,,, in fact will fight aggressively against it as liberty requires some personal responsibility. The birth of an openly fascist America is upon us. Soon anti-fascist comments will be banned and those continuing will be disappeared. What has went around is coming back around. Nazi Germany was child's play compared to Americas potential. What a shame it has to end like this.

Tue, 12/08/2015 - 16:34 | 6895573 Bemused Observer
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How else did you think it would end?

THAT'S the problem with 'multi-culturalism'. It insists on trying to mix oil and water, then cries when the 2 keep separating.

THAT'S WHAT OIL AND WATER DO! Because they will never, and CAN never, blend. You will always have to keep shaking, can't put the bottle down for a minute, and you'll get a small window of time where the mess has any usefulness. The second you stop, it all separates once again, and you are right back where you started.

We don't have the time or resources to keep shaking that damned bottle. Keep the 2 stored in their own bottles, blend in small amounts as needed when the time comes.

Tue, 12/08/2015 - 11:46 | 6893657 laser513
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As an American and Muslim, I never imagined a day would come in America that a person could suggest the type of things Mr Trump is saying. Mr Trump has made a deal with the Devil. He is playing on the fears of Americans for personal gain. He is giving no consideration to the harm he is causing to our country and the ideals it was founded on.

Tue, 12/08/2015 - 11:51 | 6893689 Heyoka
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Maybe if the majority of so called moderate muslims didnt secretly support the savage muslims you wouldnt be in this situation.

Tue, 12/08/2015 - 11:53 | 6893710 laser513
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You cannot hold me responsible for what others do. Just as you Heyoka are not responsible for all Christians in America and the crimes they commit.

Tue, 12/08/2015 - 13:11 | 6894268 Barrack Chavez
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When that whack-job "christian" preacher in Florida threatened to burn Korans -- just to piss off muslims, he wasn't even making a point -- christians all over the USA spoke up, called him a whack-job, ridiculed his followers, and loudly told the world this this crazy bastard was acting alone - he did not speak for christianity nor the US nor anyone other than himself.

Why don't Muslims publically and vocally distance themselves from al-qaeda? Or Iran? Or ISIS?

Your silence speaks volumes

Tue, 12/08/2015 - 14:46 | 6894932 Praeda2
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No one is suggesting that. It's why you aren't being locked up.

You're like North Koreans now and for the same reason; YOUR ACTIONS. You had no problem with that though. But seeing how your people come to America to take and take and take, this is concerning to you.

I wouldn't be welcome in Iran so you know what? I don't go there.

Tue, 12/08/2015 - 18:57 | 6896297 Bazza McKenzie
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You subscribe to the teachings of a psychopath, who ordered his followers (that would include you) to murder anyone who does not submit to the religion he founded.

The teachings of Christ (i.e. the founder of Christianity) do not command Christ's followers to commit acts of violence, just the opposite, and in fact you will find very few religious Christians commiting acts of violence.

Since no one has recommended stringing you up, it is clear no one is holding you responsible for what Nidal, or the 911 bombers, or the San Bernadino pair, or the violence of other mahommedans.  But that doesn't mean people are stupid enough to want to import more loose cannons.

Incidentally, mohammed also advised his followers to employ taqiyya (i.e. lying to the unbelievers) in order to protect their position when not strong enough to enforce their beliefs.  You wouldn't be giving us a bit of that old taqiyya now would you?

 

Tue, 12/08/2015 - 12:17 | 6893889 Barrack Chavez
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FDR said the same things about Japanese persons in the 1930s. You should maybe read some US history before commenting.

And BTW, how come Muslims were so quiet after 9/11? There were Muslims killed in the World Trade Center (along with everyone else). How could you possibly think those murders were OK? Where was your outrage then?

Tue, 12/08/2015 - 14:18 | 6894778 Lucky Leprachaun
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You're a Muslim first and an American a very poor second.

Tue, 12/08/2015 - 14:53 | 6894975 Praeda2
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"Our country" huh? Did you become a mudslime in prison? haha. Because otherwise, some Democrat gave you a piece of paper in exchange for your making your mark next to their name come election time. Being American is a little more than that am afraid.

"He is playing on the fears of Americans for personal gain."

When he was ALREADY way ahead in the polls? Yeah, you don't believe that but you feel the need to say something. I don't so... how about a picture or two?

http://imagepix.org/images/2015/12/08/a848c1e221aa870a827644c38516dfd2.jpg

http://imagepix.org/images/2015/12/08/e98b414a641cd67411fb2171d7a9157d.jpg

I have a ton like this if you want to start denying reality.

http://imagepix.org/images/2015/12/08/cccf9782b43af8a16f8c34fc8a005073.gif

Tue, 12/08/2015 - 11:46 | 6893660 Zymurguy
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I'd say that pretty much anyone coming to the US at this point is just joining the FSA.  I'm for shutting the shit down for a while, closing our southern border, etc. and let's get this mess figured out before we start it up again.  Oh, and let's close the taps on all that fucking billions of foreign aid we use to buy friends around the globe.  Fuck 'em and glass them over if they can't stop behaving like fucking mindless animals.

Tue, 12/08/2015 - 11:47 | 6893672 Skiprrrdog
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FUCK the mooslims...lets do to them what they would do to us, given the chance; round them all up, put them in one place and NUKE them. Put them down like you would a sick dog...which is basically what they are...

Tue, 12/08/2015 - 12:56 | 6894170 artvandalay55
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By that brilliant logic, can we put you down first, skiprrrdog?  You are exactly the same idiot radical as these terrorists, you just happened to be born in a cushy environment so thankfully your caveman idiocy is isolated to waging war on your keyboard, so far.  You follow the exact same rudimentary train of thought as every brainwashed terrorist...  

And all the while you think you are a special snowflake and the 'good guy' but you show you have the same DNA as every other idiot radical. 

 

Tue, 12/08/2015 - 11:53 | 6893705 Heyoka
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How about a freeze on ALL immigration? From the Irish to islamos, Mexicans to Russians. Fuck em.

Tue, 12/08/2015 - 12:17 | 6893816 John C Durham
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http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-12-08/morning-after-muslims-furious-6...

John C Durham:
Government and Media smear Muslims every time they call ISIS, al Qaeda, Taliban, "Freedom Fighters", etc., ISLAMISTS! All American's (not just Trump) are confused and ignorant of the DIFFERENCE between Takfiri Wahhabi CULTS (Muslim Brotherhood member in the case of Turkey's present leader, etc) created by UK/CIA/Pakistan/Saudi/Qatar/Israel/Turkey intelligence labs, COMPARED to teachings of the Prophet Mohammed.

THE fine people quoted above do not directly point to ISIS, et al, as a synthetic cult fraud group. They too, in my view, contribute to the continuing ignorance of Americans and others. So, Muslims deserve what they get after letting stupid talk go on in Western Press for 14 years now. (I should point out that within a week of 9/11, THE SPECTATOR pointed out the Wahhabi connection to Taliban/al Qaeda. But, nothing since!) ISIS has nothing to do with Mohammed or the Koran, which ISIS controllers exchanged with new innovations of Sharia terror. It's not a religious group but mercenaries hired by the fronts for Terror, i.e., those nations listed above.

Muslims need to constantly point out that Allah is greater than Mohammed. Mohammed is greater than interpretations given, even by those writers who originally produced the Quran, long after His death. And, that the Quran and Hadith is greater than Sharia.

Tue, 12/08/2015 - 14:15 | 6894761 Lucky Leprachaun
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"ISIS has nothing to do with Mohammed or the Koran"

Idiot. ISIS has more to do with them than do the so-called moderate Muslims.

Tue, 12/08/2015 - 12:12 | 6893843 Vlad the Inhaler
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Now taking over/under on how long before Trump changes his campaign slogan from "Make America Great Again" to "Make America Pure Again".  

http://www.trumpyouth.com/

Tue, 12/08/2015 - 12:24 | 6893928 flaunt
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Nice comments section zerohedge 

Tue, 12/08/2015 - 12:23 | 6893930 flaunt
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Oops 

Tue, 12/08/2015 - 12:22 | 6893932 flaunt
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I support Trump

Tue, 12/08/2015 - 12:25 | 6893952 Charles Offdensen
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To illustrate how unpeaceful Islam is let me demonstrate with one simple example. When posed with the question of why don't the peaceful Muslims stand up and speak out against the perversion of their religion by these fanatics, what is their response?

They say they fear being attacked by these animals for speaking out against Islam and the prophet. Meaning that the prohet calls for this type of action within Islam. I rest my case!!!

For the record I tried!

Tue, 12/08/2015 - 12:39 | 6894061 truthalwayswinsout
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If you actually know any Muslims, they act friendly but always end it with a smile while they tell you that they will eventually have to kill you because their religion demands it.

The way to fight them is the same way they keep 99% of the Muslims in line: It is to kill them and their families. Bury them all in a pig carcass in a 55 gal oil drum and drop it in the ocean.

You can hire 5000 spies to fight Islam and kill all the people on your watch list or you can spend $1 Trillion per year and hire millions of people to fight them the way we are now with conventional forces and make everyone's life miserable.

Terrorism is always a spy v spy war and until you get in the game you will lose.

And you have to ask yourself one question; when these terror attacks are committed why is it that 90% plus of those who commit them are already on a watch list?  We know who they are we are just to afraid and too politically correct to protect ourselves. We would rather have 14 killed and many more wounded than to kill the guy on the watch list.

Tue, 12/08/2015 - 14:11 | 6894731 Lucky Leprachaun
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"We know who they are we are just to afraid and too politically correct to protect ourselves."

+1000

Tue, 12/08/2015 - 12:40 | 6894080 truthalwayswinsout
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If you actually know any Muslims, they act friendly but always end it with a smile while they tell you that they will eventually have to kill you because their religion demands it.

The way to fight them is the same way they keep 99% of the Muslims in line: It is to kill them and their families. Bury them all in a pig carcass in a 55 gal oil drum and drop it in the ocean.

You can hire 5000 spies to fight Islam and kill all the people on your watch list or you can spend $1 Trillion per year and hire millions of people to fight them the way we are now with conventional forces and make everyone's life miserable.

Terrorism is always a spy v spy war and until you get in the game you will lose.

And you have to ask yourself one question; when these terror attacks are committed why is it that 90% plus of those who commit them are already on a watch list?  We know who they are we are just to afraid and too politically correct to protect ourselves. We would rather have 14 killed and many more wounded than to kill the guy on the watch list.

Tue, 12/08/2015 - 14:10 | 6894726 Lucky Leprachaun
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"If you actually know any Muslims, they act friendly but always end it with a smile while they tell you that they will eventually have to kill you because their religion demands it."

 

I know this to be true from my many years working in the ME. Actually I found it quite unnerving when the full ramifications struck me.

Tue, 12/08/2015 - 12:42 | 6894086 GoldRulesPaperDrools
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The Donald has my vote.

Just to make the problem simpler, we'll stop ALL immigration until the 90+ million unemployed Americans can find a job.  Don't wait up for the INS to call you back about your application.

Tue, 12/08/2015 - 12:58 | 6894186 BeansMcGreens
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Well, muslims do want to shut down as seen on Zero Hedge.

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  • Tue, 12/08/2015 - 13:03 | 6894217 frankly scarlet
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    I believe it is termed "political spectrum creep"....  so we all should soon be enjoying the safety of fascism from republicanism or parliamentary democracy depending on local and with Donald as the leader....I can't wait for that one to happen and mushroom clouds becoming available for the entire public to view and evaluate instead of all the top secrecy surrounding the nuclear capabilities of Russia and China.

    Tue, 12/08/2015 - 13:29 | 6894413 snblitz
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    The government has demonstrated that it is unable to let peace loving Muslims into the country without allowing in terrorists from the same regions.

    The choices are:

    1. Do not let  anyone in

    2. Allow terrorists in

    3. Find a way to distingush terrorists from peace loving muslims. (let government know if you have a solution)

    Tue, 12/08/2015 - 13:35 | 6894478 Omega_Man
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     crap on muslims.... therefore you can also crap on jews, hindus, and the lot

    Tue, 12/08/2015 - 14:22 | 6894783 buyingsterling
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    "I think that we should definitely disallow any Muslims from coming in. Any of them. The reason is simple: we can't identify what their attitude is," said 75-year-old Charlie Marzka of Myrtle Beach, South Carolina. Marzka explained that he believes Islam "allows for the killing of people" and said he thinks Muslim culture "is absolutely contrary to our culture."

     

    This old man spoke for most of America. Only those whose religion is multiculturalism* do not see the reality.

     

    *They aren't nice folks, the multi-culturalists. The followers just hate their own culture with a passion. How else explain the dissonance between their liberalism and Islam's treatment of gays and other minorities? Or the fact that they force their women to walk behind them wearing a giant garbage bag? For the leaders on the left, it's all political, they support MC because it buys votes. They don't care where the votes come from or how much danger comes with the votes.

    Tue, 12/08/2015 - 14:29 | 6894834 Praeda2
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    "BASSEM YOUSSEF, former talk show host known as the Jon Stewart of the Middle East"

    He's known as being a dumb Jew in the Middle East? Life can be tough sometimes.

    "TAREQ, 22-year-old college student in Cairo"

    A degenerate worried about losing out on, gibsmedat. I thought woman-child "Cairo" was scrapping the bottom of the barrel.

    "YARA FARIS, 23-year-old journalist in the West Bank. She hopes to study international journalism at Columbia University:"

    Daddy is either a crooked or it's free.

    "USAMA SALLAH, prominent Palestinian businessman in Jerusalem who lived in the U.S. for 14 years"

    Where he learned the slave trade that he now conducts.

    "AHMED JALAJEL, Palestinian journalist in east Jerusalem who visited the U.S. last year as part of a State Department-sponsored program:"

    Spy or at best, traitor to his people.

    "SAM BAHOUR, a Palestinian-American business consultant who moved from Youngstown, Ohio, to Ramallah, West Bank, in the 1990s, called the comments "disgraceful" and "absurd.""

    Nothing absurd or disgraceful about being a raghead who changes his name to, "Sam".

    "AZIZA YOUSEF, a computer science professor at King Saud University in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia:"

    Jerksoff to cartoons when he's not tweeting.

    "SOMCHAI JEWANGMA, an officer with Thailand's Sheikhul Islam Office, which governs the country's Muslims:"

    See? You need a whole ministry just to control the animals.

    ""I don't think that can ever be done. The United States has economic ties with Islamic countries"

    Yeah, and who benefits from that? Not America.

    "AZRA KHAN, president of the Canberra Islamic Center in Australia, said Trump's proposal is the wrong way to address last week's attack in San Bernardino, California, in which a Muslim couple killed 14 people:"

    Trumps mentions both WORLD TRADE CENTER attacks and this guy skips past that in an attempt to change the narrative.

    "NUR JAZLAN MOHAMAD, Malaysian deputy home minister, said the proposal is not aligned with America's image as tolerant and democratic, and could play into the Islamic State group's hands by alienating Muslims who are already in the U.S."

    Old Jazzhands Mohamad doesn't like that real life isn't like the movies he's watched.

    "KEYSAR TRAD, the chairman of the Sydney-based Islamic Friendship Association of Australia, said Trump's statement reflected political desperation."

    No, the guy leading the polls by a huge number isn't, political desperate but this mud's comment sure is.

    How about Keysar from Libya? Iraq? Turkey? Afghanistan? Oh right, their too busy planning the next WTC attack.

    "AMIDAN SHABERAH, the chairman of the Indonesian Council of Ulemas, an influential clerics' organization, said Trump's comments were a "big, big mistake.""

    Sounds like a threat. Let's put him first on the list.

    "IKEBAL PATEL, former president of the Australian Federation of Islamic Councils:"

    Australia again...

    "He's trying to alienate not only the Muslim population of the United States but all the Muslims around the world."

    That's why he's going to make a fine, BOSS.

    Tue, 12/08/2015 - 15:14 | 6895103 TacticalTrading
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    I am tired of racists objecting to ideas they describe as Racist. 

    Think what you want, but from my christian view point, Islam looks like it might be a just a bit racist. 

    No GLBT allowed - Where's the outrage? 

    Women wear a veil ... or as the girl describes 'they will kill me'   Where are the woman's rights people? 

    Is wanting to kill all Jews racist? 

     

    Tue, 12/08/2015 - 15:40 | 6895234 inosent
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    DT is a wild man, for sure. Imagine, coming out and saying this. O M G! The wrath of the jew media! left wingers! pseudo intellectuals! It has come down hard, fast and furious! Here's the deal - he is running for president. What modern politician in their right mind would take such a risk? Ha! Nobody, that's who. Every other politicain would stay very close to the script, careful not to offend anybody, always trying to placate everyone, going for as many votes as they can get and hoping to win, believing in nothing, just a blank hard drive for the dark overlords to write their programming onto after the election.

    Does not the MSM jew dominated 'press' tell us 'muslims' did it? Yes? This is the case, right? Are we not instructed never to question the official narrative that comes to us from the jew media, where there is never a court case, a trial, facts and evidence presented, so we never, ever get a chance to actually know the fact of the matter?

    So I don't see what the controversy is. The jew media we are not supposed to question just told us that ISIS is muslim and terrorizing the world. They tell us they are responsible for the San Bernardino shootings. It has pretty much come down to it that this sort of thing can happen anytime, any place, because the targets are always just ordinary people in public places, never legitimate military targets.

    The jew media reports that ISIS gets $1BB each year for its operations.

    That constitutes a security threat, right?

    What, then, is so 'evil' about proposing an initiative to stop these people from coming in to the country? Are we supposed to be suicidal, on top of everything else. "Sure, come on in! Say, would you like us to stand over here, or is by the wall better? You'd like us to be a little closer? OK, kids, cammon, your heard the nice ISIS man, get closer for the shot" rat-tat-tat-tat-tat-tat-tat-tat-tat-

    Entire family of 5 lay dead in a pool of blood that recently protested how it hurt muslims feelings to temporarily ban Muslim immigration to the uSa for the purposes of national security.

    As I have said before, while it is likely no mulsim had anything to do with 9/11 or SB, the issue is ISIS exists, they are muslims, or at the very least arabic cold blooded killers on the take, and if you take obama's approach, to just roll out the red carpet, people who otherwise could not get in, will just walk right in, no questions asked, free pass style.

     

     

    Tue, 12/08/2015 - 16:06 | 6895409 gregga777
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    Anyone with a little common sense will conclude that you don't allow people who are inherently hostile to your culture and to the values upon which your country is founded to immigrate to your country. The Muslim religion doesn't believe in separation between religion and government. Their languages don't even have a native word for secular. The Saudi Arabian-funded Wahabbist mosques become breeding grounds for terrorists.

    Tue, 12/08/2015 - 16:16 | 6895471 Bemused Observer
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    "I was born to Muslim parents and wore the veil at a young age. Now I am an atheist, but I can't tell anyone or take it off because they will probably kill me."

    Well sweetie, don't you see the problem here? Stuff like that is WHY you are seeing this 'backlash' against Muslims in the US!

    Seriously, if these people don't mind living like that, fine. But let 'em live elsewhere then, because shit like that is NOT compatible with our way of life.

    Why the fuck should WE change to accommodate that bullshit attitude? Religious freedom means exactly that...the freedom to CHOOSE who or what you worship. NOT the right to impose it on others.

    All the gun-grabbers are focused on the second amendment. Well, maybe we should re-visit that first amendment while we're at it. They're already chipping away at free speech...

    You want to restrict guns and speech? Fine, let's talk about religion then...because I'm seeing some real problems THERE.

    In fact, religion is probably the biggest problem of all. All it does is give bigots and fanatics cover to say and do shit we'd NEVER allow to be said and done secularly. So why is it that people defend those things simply because the doer says he/she is following "God's orders"? What, that makes it all ok?

    Tue, 12/08/2015 - 16:29 | 6895545 TheFutureIsThePast
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    How many of you will, at the request of your government, inform on fellow Americans if they're muslim?

    Go on, don't be shy. Raise your hand and be honest about your deep love for the State - as long as it works in your interest. It isn't the first time it's happened and it won't be the last.

    Tue, 12/08/2015 - 16:45 | 6895636 J Jason Djfmam
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    Finally you can be a Nazi for all of the right reasons. Whew!

    Tue, 12/08/2015 - 17:17 | 6895795 InnVestuhrr
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    The islamic cult is the ONLY one of the mythologies that REQUIRES its followers to:

    forcibly convert non-believers and kill them if they don't

    engage in jihad to spread the cult

    get special status in mythical heaven by committing suicide-murders

    plus all the other wacko shit that it contains, eg brutal oppression and subjugation of women.

    The ONLY way to stop islamic terrorism is to stop the teaching and preaching of the cult everywhere, ie the islamic cult must be destroyed, because everywhere that the islamic cult is taught there will ALWAYS be followers who actually follow the cult handbook and commit horrible attrocities.

    Tue, 12/08/2015 - 18:15 | 6896097 Omega_Man
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    I guess Saudi should pull all of it's money and sell oil in yuan

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