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"We're At War, Get It Through Your Head", Trump Doubles Down During Combative Follow Up Interviews
12 hours after his dramatic campaign statement to shut out Muslims arrivals into the US, Donald Trump doubled down and in a series of interviews early on Tuesday, he repeatedly told anchors such as CNN's Chris Cuomo that "we're at war - get it through your head" in his latest heated exchange, during which he reminded America how quickly people have forgotten "World Trade Center #1 and World Trade Center #2."
One thing that Trump did stress throughout the media blitz is that his plan to prevent Muslims from entering the U.S. was "temporary." and in a follow up interview on ABC's "Good Morning America" he clarified that American Muslims living abroad could return to the U.S., following conflicting statements by his campaign yesterday: when asked if Trump's proposal applied to U.S. citizens living abroad, a Trump spokesperson had told The Hill on Monday that Trump's proposal applied to "everyone."
In the aftermath of yesterday's announcement, there has been a surge of media outlets comparing Trump to Hitler (as seen below).
George Stephanopoulos asked Trump during the ABC interview whether the candidate was bothered by the increasing number of such comparisons, to which Trump responded with a simple, "No."
As could have been expected, Trump's interview on MSNBC's "Morning Joe" turned combative when co-host Joe Scarborough tried to interject a question, while the real estate mogul continued to speak during the phone call-in interview. As the Hill reports, Scarborough threatened to send the interview to a break if Trump didn't allow him to ask a question. After Trump didn't relent, Scarborough instructed producers to cut to commercials.
After the break, Trump discussed comparisons to former President Franklin Delano Roosevelt. Questioned about whether he was proposing internment camps like the ones FDR created for the Japanese, Trump said, "I am not proposing that. This is a whole different thing," he added later during another combative exchange.
It wasn't just the leftist media that attacked Trump - so did the GOP, where rivals blasted Trump, including former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush who called it "unhinged," as well as the Republican party chairs in the early voting states of Iowa, New Hampshire and South Carolina. The White House and Democratic presidential front-runner Hillary Clinton also panned the idea as un-American and unconstitutional.
Despite the condemnations, Trump said on MSNBC that "we have to get our hands around a very serious problem" adding that "not everybody has condemned" his comments.
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Oceania has always been at war with Eurasia.
Either way we are fucked:
http://news.groopspeak.com/theyve-nailed-every-presidential-election-sin...
BEHOLD THE TRUMPENING!
Does that mean a scroll has become unsealed?
Terrorism is the new Communism. Trump is not the solution to the Blowback. Trump is just playing on the fears that some boogey man will kill you.
Here's the solution: http://www.ronpaul.com/2015-12-06/ron-paul-is-islam-on-the-verge-of-engulfing-western-civilization/
At least Trump acknowledges the clear and present danger Islam poses to America. Try getting that out of the White Housenigger.
Yes you are at war, in Muslim homelands, and you are making fortunes for 1% of your population by doing so.
The reason you are being attacked by muslims is because you are at war in their homeland.
Get out now, and stop it, or spend your lives cowering in fear for what you have done.
If you did this in Christian lands you would be attacked by Christian terrorists, and quite right too.
It really isn't that difficult. This guy is another Hitler.
'At least Trump acknowledges the clear and present danger Islam poses to America.'
Will you acknowledge the clear and present danger that America is currently posing to Islam, and has doen for years now?
Will you acknowledge that America caused this problem in the first place by invading foreign lands, or will you stand behind the 'religion is the cause ' bullshit?
Trump on 9/11?
Epic Fail. Pathetic.
For people afraid of Islam, you should be more afraid of the politicans that send democratic missiles in oil rich nations to jam Liberty through the barrel of a gun.
ISIS claims that US intervention is because of Christianity. LOL both sides using religion for natural resources.
Religion is the problem...still
Andrew Cuomo is the problem and those MSM like him!
Trump seems to be pulling the entire argument in one direction, which is similar to what LaPierre did after the whole Sandy Hook thing.
He also seems to be making statements based on how various sentiments poll with the PEOPLE, and not what propagandists on the left or right are pushing in the MSM.
Very smart move.
I have to wonder, would the furor over Trumps comments have been worse if he had said:
"We are engaged in war with radical islam. This is not a military war since they have no military worthy of the name. Rather, this is a war of civilian populations against civilian populations. Government cannot protect you in an open society which is what we have and is so much better than what they have. As such, the only way to protect civilians is to arm free citizens in an open society to the teeth. Therefore, if I am elected president, I will fight against gun control and attempt to allow all American citizens to be armed to the teeth."
Gun ownership actually spans both parties in the U.S., that would have united the poplace and reaffirmed basic rights. Instead, Trump only said something that is guaranteed to draw divisions between people.
He probably could've done better by limiting his comments to new immigrants, yes, instead of including US citizens. However, I think he realizes that people have the attention span of a flea and can temper his comments after getting the nomination, IF he does. I'm sure he's looking at the poll numbers to see how far he can push his proposals, so I guess we'll see.
I might actually vote for the Goomba.
He's the right kind of crazy.
ISIS has targeted refugee program to enter US, Homeland Security chairman says
“Intelligence officials have determined that Islamic extremists have explored using the refugee program to enter the United States, the head of the House Homeland Security Committee said on Monday. “
“ISIS members in Syria have attempted to exploit it to get into the United States,” McCaul said during a speech at the National Defense University.”
http://thehill.com/policy/national-security/262316-isis-has-targeted-refugee-program-to-enter-us-chairman-says
Hell Bells.. given what we have now for a sorry-ass government, they will probably all get free housing, an EBT card, a driver’s license and a gun permit.
What about World Trade Center #7?
Trump is not an idiot, and no doubt knows all about WTC#7.
The fact that he doesn't mention it means he is willing to play the official 9/11 game (the alternative being an RFK moment).
That said, he is still the least dirty shirt in the entire pile at this stage. IMHO, its him, or Hillary. Pick.
No. Don't pick.
Why won't any of you fucking wusses come out and admit it? You love establishment "dollars", you love establishment candidates like Trump. You love big gubmint and you love their bonds and banks and media too.
Not really, Instead, basically I'd just characterize my position as "bitcoin is for asshats" who will eventually lose everything just like everyone else & I wish you'd quit shilling it under 1000+ different usernames.
Bitcoiners are at least fighting against teh establishment. Not bending over and greasing up like you little pig fuckers. And if Bitcoiners ever become teh establishment then fuck them too!
Bitcoiners aren't fighting against the establishment.
They're playing the lottery just like everyone else (hoping their little digital fuckunit seashell tally sticks are redeemable in MOAR dollars somewhere down the line if & when a panic erupts).
If you want to fight against the establishment, go set yourself on fucking fire on the US Capitol steps & do us all a fucking favor by sparing us your daily shill routine.
The plain fact of the fucking matter is, whether you like it or not, bitcoin has ZERO value unless it can 'catch a ride' on whatever sheeple percieve a notable FIAT currency's value to be at any given moment. The day all FIAT disappears, bitcoin disappears. So it has nothing to do with being establishment or anti-establishment. Quit trying to be a hero & go back to your ATARI you annoying punk ass dweebazoid.
Maybe Donnie is getting nervous of his own success in the polls, so now he decided to push the self destruct button?
In The Netherlands ("Holland" for y'all Americans) we have a similar clown: Geert Wilders. Every time he gets close to winning an election, he does something 'stupid,' loses a lot of voters and subsequently doesn't gain as much as previously predicted by the polls. That way he can continue to shout all sorts of bullshit from the sidelines instead of actually accepting any governmental responsibilities.
p.s. this doesn't mean that either Trump nor Wilder don't have any valid points though.
You're another statist moron is what you are. So you are in good company on this website. Bend over for your masters you little bitch because according to you they've already won teh fight.
Is there a real and practical alternative to Fiat Currency? Should we go back to bartering between services and products without the use of currency then? Fiat currency will exist until th endo of the world.
No voting. No elections. No candidates. No media. No banks. No establishment. No hope.
NOTHING!
What he says, as unfair as it sound, has some truth to it. It just rubs Americans the wrong way. But, maybe this is the leadership we have been seekimg, someone strong enough and clear enough to do what it takes to ensure our security. If it were not temporary I would be totally against it. Last;y, I bet he jumps five more points in the polls.
I'm surprised nobody is asking how we're supposed to know who the Muslims are? Does the government keep records on what religion its citizens are?
That rubs me more than just a little bit the wrong way.
Any of this pre-emptive pre-crime shit, especially based upon secret allegations, hearsay, or illegal lists, treats the Constitution like toilet paper.
100% proof Bernardino shooting was staged
Craft Intl mercenaries carried out San Bernardino shooting http://www.presstv.ir/Detail/2015/12/08/440834/Craft-International-merce...An Iranian website?
Oh yeah, and why would anyone plan a "false flag" with 3 white (!) guys wearing more or less standard US CIA outfits: black shirts, combat boots and khaki pants? The CIA couldn't find three Latino's (Middle Eastern look) in the US and dress them all up in black, so that they would look more like the two "patsy's" that were shot?!
This whole "3-white-guys-did-it" conspiracy theory is too ridiculous for words, but I guess it suits the liberals/left for encouraging an engineered multicultural society as in Europe.
Ah - IDK if I'd call that article 100% anything:
"The 223 weapon or bullets fired from AR15 – an extremely powerful weapon -- would blow someone’s arm off, it is not going to make a small hole. . . ”
That's complete bullshit right there. 5.56mm NATO can cause horrific wounds if/when the round fragments properly, but it's certainly not a given.
Here's somebody getting nailed by what I understand to be an M-249 SAW (a 5.56mm NATO-chambered weapon) for example: http://www.apacheclips.com/boards/media/4745-An-oldie-but-a-goodie-blast...
You honed in on exactly the same line that I did. 223 don't make big holes, they cause catastrophic internal damage precisely because they are a high-powered small caliber and fragment and ricochet internally, they don't blow people's arms off. Gotta call bullshit on the entire article.
It's the greatest threat global security has ever faced.
All the weapons in the world won't matter once ISIS army kick into gear!
http://motivationdose.com/electromagnetic-pulse-attack-emp-blackout-usa-...
Plus, with Obama's so called 'Affirmatively Furthering Fair Housing', they'll be moving in next door to you.
From where I am standing Trump is a political genius. I can't believe he hasn't run sooner.
He has positioned himself so that the GOP nomination is a choice; Trump or one of the other guys.
The anyone but Trump vote is totally divided between 3 or 4 candidates, and Trump is running around throwing social hand grenades that are completely shocking his opponents into disarray.
I will bet he uses a very different strategy if he gets to the Red v Blue, race for the presidency.
To win the GOP nomination he just has to dominate the airwaves and sow chaos amongst the other candidates, he has done this far far far more effectively that anyone I have ever seen going right back to the 60's.
To beat the democrats, I expect we will see the two dirtiest presidential campaigns of all time going head to head in an all out slugfest. Nothing will be off limits.
Now that Trump has spoken:
Vladimir Putin and 9/11 (+ an enhanced “ISIS” threat for Friday)"To beat the democrats, I expect we will see the two dirtiest presidential campaigns of all time going head to head in an all out slugfest. Nothing will be off limits."
And then what? "Republicans to the rescue?" Wasn't it Bush Sr. who started this by invading Iraq, and Bush Jr. with his corrupt buddies (Von Rumsfeld, Dick Cheney) to finish the job daddy failed to complete?
Sure, Obama is an idiot, but is he any more (or less) an idiot than Bush Jr.? He's just another puppet, just like Trump (a 'self made' billionaire who owns a real estate empire financed by...BANKS!) will be a puppet of the big shadow government that really runs the world.
In the sewer and lies of political correctness, speaking the truth is a revelation. As long as the elections aren't rigged, Trump is going to win it all easily.
From where I am standing Trump is a political genius. I can't believe he hasn't run sooner.
You really have to much faith in popular vote. A political genius would be a guy that can ennact it's agenda meanwhile making allies and quenching adversaries.
I might actually vote for the Goomba.
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I'm voting for Trump, my first election in 16 years because I want to see if he reverses all his positions, or if not, how they murder him. Exciting stuff!
I think Trump could do himself a huge favor and just say "Let's put a stop to all immigration. A 10 year moratoriam". This country is in desperate need of jobs and citizens should not have to compete against low wage immigrants, legal or otherwise. This doesn't need to be a Muslim thing.
If Trump is reading:
Didn't the jobs report yesterday indicate that over 300,000 jobs went to immigrants, whereas over 300,000 jobs were lost to US born citizens?
Yup, found it here ...
http://citizenwells.com/2015/12/06/native-born-americans-lost-326000-job...
Stop EBT also. Maybe lazy, fat, entitled shitbags will get off their asses and do something with their lives.
It should be stopped with all that other socialism, but the job market needs to be fixed first. As of now there are simply too many people here and not enough jobs, and this is by design of the people who want us to be dependent on them, and under their control.
Where I live, there are "We are hiring" signs all over the place. There are jobs to be had. You just have to get off your lazy ass and go apply.
We only have 95 million out of work. If Barry can work a little harder maybe he can put 110,000 million out fo work and get the uinemployment rate down to 4%.
I notice that people who say things such as:
"Where I live, there are "We are hiring" signs all over the place. There are jobs to be had. You just have to get off your lazy ass and go apply. "
...never disclose where they live or what kinds of jobs at what pay-scales these 'jobs to be had' pay.
-So, I simply assume they are full of shit and can't help but talk it..
No one ever responds to my calling them liars about their assertions of ample well-oaying empoyment opportunities with anything but the same smug bullshit...
A desperate gambit to stay in the primaries for a little longer, but there's a big difference between being popular and being qualified.
And what fucking moron can't recognize these PR stunt as propaganda anyway?
Exactly what qualifications are you referring to? Membership in the CFR? The US Senate? The CIA? The S&P 500? That he is not are pluses IMO. The only flaw I see in his candidacy (as compared to Palin? Really?) is his loyalty to the tribe, and Bibi in particular. If it's due to ignorance I can overlook it. He will discover soon enough who it is behind the curtain driving these overlapping military operations and what they were really designed to facilitate. If he succeeds and wins then they will try to Jimmy Carter him with any untold number of false flags but I'm pretty sure he'll handle himself fine. Even if he can't I'm good with that. Anything will be a reprieve from this madness we are going thru.
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"Religion is the problem...still" Have not seen a christian cutting off heads of non converts. Have not seen christians trying to usurp the law. Have seen christians state their opinion.
"Religion is the problem...still"
Yes but for politicians. If there is no religion these politicians can chew you up alive.
Shouldn't we be at war with israhell???
Smells like controlled opposition.
Indeed
If Trump is controlled opposition, then we're totally and completely fucked.
I prefer to remain slightly more optomistic, if for no other reason, than to preserve my sanity.
TRUMP 2016
His business and the businesses of his children and eventually grandchildren depend on the economy being strong and the US being prosperous. He's not a parasite like the Clinton/Bush family. He doesn't appear to be so insane as to sell out the US entirely. He's also being completely assaulted by the MSM and establishment, controlled opposition behaves much more like McCain or Romney and is treated as such.
Maybe he's just freaked out by his own success and is terrified of actually becoming president? Trump's no dummy. He knows what's in store if he actually gets there, so a little self-sabotage is understandable at this point.
You may be right. One of my biggest fears with Trump is that he'd get bored being President after a couple of years and resign.
Trump is supportive of israel. His daughter is jewish. Hes a plant.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Lv-r_XQK4M
RIPS
Anyone who tries to wack Israel takes on the Lord himself. Good luck with that.
"Shouldn't we be at war with israhell???"
You know this ZH thread has been inflitrated with Zionist Shills when the above statement has "any" thumbs down.
I guess I'm a Zionist shill then.
You are a Christian Zionist shill, from the looks of it.
You don't know shit about Islam do you? That's rhetorical by the way cause its clear you don't know what the core values and aspirations are of Muslims. Look it up sometime and get back to us.
Ok, looked it up, lived among them for a few years quite peacefully and without any problems. I even went to a mates' wedding in a Christian church in an Islamic country and decided that your an ignorant idiot.
Maybe you should go away and read more propaganda. Don't bother getting back to us, we've heard it all before.
"lived among them for a few years quite peacefully and without any problems."
Sorry, brah, one point of anecdotal evidence doesn't stack up to 1400 years of mayhem and violence, all in the name of the "prophet" and his Moon God, "allah".
Never forget that Islam is a hard core of murderous ideological fanatics, surrounded by a creamy nougat of mild-mannered, wooly-headed, go-along-to-get-alongs that make the whole thing palatable to the stupid and willfully ignorant.
So, you tasted some of the creamy nougat? Nice for you. Hope you never get a bite of the nasty part.
Absolutely. If reality doesn't stack up, ignore it.
Or, put another way, why spoil a good story for the sake of a few simple facts?
Sorry, brah, one point of anecdotal evidence doesn't stack up to centuries of mayhem and violence, all in the name of the "holy of holies" and his zombie son, "Jesus".
Never forget that Christianity and Judaism are a hard core of murderous ideological fanatics, surrounded by a creamy nougat of mild-mannered Methodists that make the whole thing palatable to the stupid and willfully ignorant.
Or did you miss the Liberty "University" speech?
Yeah, all those Christian suicide bombers yelling "John 3:16" are turning into a real problem...aren't they?
Not defending the religion of Islam at all, but your one sided, distorted view of human history is something to behold. I notice you left out events like the world wars which had very little to do with Islam. And how many Chritians lived in peace in places like Iraq and Syria before the US fucked the countries all up? And care to tell us who invented modern day "terrorism"? It wasn't Muslims.
Face it, we are fucked and Trump isn't saving the country. The One Party/War Party will never allow him anywhere near the WH.
"I notice you left out events like the world wars which had very little to do with Islam."
Uh, ok... not really sure what you are getting at...Are there other murderous political ideologies--like Comunism, say-- that have nothing to do with Islam? Well, yes. Not sure how that is relevant to the particular case of Islam.
Islam went into a dormancy period after the Muslim invasion of Western Europe was turned back at the gates of Vienna in 1683. Aside from the brutal genocides of Armenians (several millions) and Greeks (~1 million), or regional problems like the Barbary Pirates in the late 18th and early 19th centuries, the Muslims were largely kept in a box until the 1970s.
Now, the Islamic monster is out of the box again and attacking Western Europe and the US. The question is, what are we going to do about it?
Indeed. And what are we going to do about the Zionist Neocons that have hijacked US foreign policy?
Not disagreeing with you about radicals of every stripe. I see no diplomatic solutions coming.
OMFG, did Buckaroo Banzai just blame the Armenian genocide on Muslims? Newsflash, Buck, the Young Turks were Donmeh crypto-Jews. This is not new information. This is why Hollywood in particular avoids ALL discussion of the Armenian genocide. Did you know the Bolsheviks were also mostly Jewish? The Holodomor was orchestrated by a man named Dzugashvili and Kaganovich (Jewish)???? Who financed the 2nd World War? Muslims? LOL.
Also, did you forget the Ottoman Empire was both Islamic AND Orthodox? The entire Balkans were under Ottoman control, and yet, there is only one Muslim country in the Balkans today (Albania). Kind of blows the 'Muslim invasion turned back at the gates of Vienna' on its head, doesn't it?
For you though, of course this changes nothing. Rabid islamophobia must remain rabid islamophobia.
And now we are inviting the enemy into our homelands en masse. So you lef tout that little important nugget, regardless of who was murdering who back when.
Moreover, there is no place in the Bible instructing the followers to kill the infidel. So stop comparing apples and oranges. We are facing the extinction of western heritage and culture and you want to poke sticks at who's more evil? Get some context and understanding of the big picture here.
'Moreover, there is no place in the Bible instructing the followers to kill the infidel. '
ok, so where'd the crusades come from then?
The pope, horrible things have been done in the name of Christianity but you could hardly say Jesus endorsed them with his teachings. The prophet encouraged violence against non Muslims from the start.
seems to me you're being a bit 'picky' there dude...
The Crusades were a counter attack.
How can anyone unless they are intellectually dishonest, demand an explanation of the Crusades and forget it was to recapture Christian territory Islam had overrun? Damascus, Jerusalem, Beirut, and Constantinople were all founded as cities of GOD, conquered by evil. Fighting back is bad?
Absurd.
To call the Crusades a revenge/counter attack is historical revisionism at its finest. The area (Syrian coast, etc) was especially important location on the Silk Road. Europeans wanted a cut. They invaded and carved out a niche. They justified it by saying "this has always been ours", "we are just taking it back", "they attacked us first", same as a war or invasion would be justified these days.
Find me an original document from the year 1200 and I will show you a forgery. Because everything 800 years old has been... EDITED! Or, in more pc terms, ' the documents had to be copied as the original scroll was deteriorating'. And we all know they copy the documents word for word, right? No one would use such an opportunity for political motives, right? I am just a really smart 21st century educated peon, the folks back then could never have conceived a deception such as what I am outlining?
Bullshit.
Show me the 800 year old original documents that PROVE the West was just reclaiming what was theirs. Please. Crusaders were mercs, simple as that.
If that upsets you, I can only imagine how you feel about my opinion that the 'Reconquista' was a bunch of bullshit too. Calling the 'Conquista' just doesn't have the same ring to it, does it?
Why was the city of Acre so important, if the objective was 'the Holy Land'? Because its nonsense, they wanted a port, that was on the western end of the Silk Road. Tyre, Acre, Antioch, these are all port cities, on the final leg of the Silk Road, before it hits the Mediterranean! A rudimentary understanding of trade would reveal to you that prices would go WAY UP after this leg of the journey. If you controlled the ports, you gained that margin. If you did not, you paid the retail price. Retail vs wholesale, for spices, silk, all sorts of exotic goods...
Constantinople was right in the center of the known world! At the crossroads of both East-West trade overland trade routes, as well as the crossroads of North-South maritime trade routes (Volga-Don-Black Sea-Mediterranean)! But hey, if you prefer the fairy tale version of history, go right ahead.
You are really justifying the mass immigration of combat aged men into western cultures based on the crusades???
Wow you really hate western culture don't you? White guilt complex has you by the balls, wake the fvk up.
The fundamental tenets of Islam itself are not compatible with freedom and liberty. Arabs should be welcome, but not Muslims.
O believers make war on the infidels (non-Muslims) who dwell around you, let them find harshness in you” - Quran 9:123
“When the sacred months are over, kill the unbelievers wherever you find them” – Quran 9:5
“Fight them until unbelief is no more and Allah's religion reigns supreme” - Q 2:193
“Fight against those of the book (Christians and Jews) as believe neither in Allah nor in the last day…and do not embrace the true faith” - Q 9:29
“Fighting is obligatory for you (Muslims), even if you dislike it” - Q 2:216
Freedom of religion should always be upheld, but this isn't religion, It's a death cult from the dark ages, not needed or wanted in the west. We have enough problems.
Since we don't fight religious wars but "they" do........then they win. Pretty simple.
The hardcore Christian killers are part of the US armed forces, in service to which they massacre thousands of times more people than a few pissant suicide bombers.
Those deaths have nothing to do with Christianity and everything to do with sociopathic greed. Islam and the elites have the same methodology it seems. Getting ignorant people to die for them.
I know the christians will say, 'but but but thats the old testament, we follow the new testament.'
John 10:30 ESV - Jesus "I and the Father are one.” ...one in the same you say?
either your god is bipolar, or he remains the same as he did in the old testament. With attitude, forever pissed & lots of wanton vengeance... conveniently over looking the baby killing, raping and slaughter of animals that just happen to be in the wrong place at the wrong time? we'll focus on just the good stuff that doesnt sound crazy or make us look bad though...
who could forget
"The Inquisition
The Medieval Inquisition is a series of Inquisitions (Roman Catholic Church bodies charged with suppressing heresy) from around 1184, including the Episcopal Inquisition (1184-1230s) and later the Papal Inquisition (1230s). It was in response to large popular movements throughout Europe considered apostate or heretical to Christianity, in particular Catharism and Waldensians in southern France and northern Italy. These were the first inquisition movements of many that would follow.
Torture was used after 1252. On May 15, Pope Innocent IV issued a papal bull entitled Ad exstirpanda, which authorized the use of torture by inquisitors. The Inquisitors were forbidden to use methods that resulted in bloodshed, mutilation or death. One of the more common forms of medieval inquisition torture was known as strappado. The hands were bound behind the back with a rope, and the accused was suspended this way, dislocating the joints painfully in both arms. Weights could be added to the legs dislocating those joints as well.
The organization is still active today under the name of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith. Prior to becoming Pope Benedict XVI, Cardinal Ratzinger was the head of the congregation."
crusades anyone?
suck it...
"go-along-to-get-alongs"
Plenty of those to go around. Muslim or otherwise.
"Sorry, brah, one point of anecdotal evidence doesn't stack up to 1400 years of mayhem and violence, all in the name of the "prophet" and his Moon God, "allah"."
There is no proof no evidence no video no witness yet but 1400 years old religion all of a sudden needs to be be eliminated.
"There is no proof no evidence no video no witness yet but 1400 years old religion all of a sudden needs to be be eliminated."
Step up then. Talk's cheap.
"You're" an ignorant idiot. Oh the irony.
Nigger, please. Going to a wedding in Beirut don't count. Mutherfucker, you need to get to bedouins out in Saudi or some of the tribes up in West Qurna Iraq. Live in a mudhif with them while they steal your shit and threaten you with a knife and demand a job from your oil company.
That's the real deal, now get your white honky ass out of here.
Correct RIKKY, Islam is a government. True believers do not asimulate but attempt to form government and law everywhere they settle. In no way compatible with freedom.
What, you mean like missionaries?
If missionaries strapped bombs to themselves while screaming "ALOHA SNACKBAR", then yes, I suppose.
I know lots of muslims who don't know anything about snackbars.
Maybe they should find out, at the moment they seem to be more woried about how they're going to find the money to pay the rising costs of their childrens education in an economic downturn.
Of course, if you bomb the living shit out of them and kill their children they won't have to worry about that anymore, and will have lots of free time to think how they're going to start up their new snackbar.
Iraq, Libya, Syria, etc should never have been attacked since it was all for the Saudi/Zio/NeoCons interests..
that said, it is a total shit pile now. So why the fuck would anyone want to protect the Sunnis/Zios that are running the chaos in those lands? Nuke them all to hell, Israel included.
So back in 2003, when we invaded Iraq and ruined it, roughly 6% of Iraqis were Christian.
So we bombed the shit out of a bunch of Christians, too.
By your logic, doesn't that mean that 6% of them should be terrorists?
Oops.
No.
Care to elaborate beyond a one-word negation?
No point...
Ridiculous statement. Pointless debate. Nuff said?
Is that elaborate enough?
Very well. I accept your unconditional surrender.
hey buckaroo, are you purposely being dense?
are you really not aware that christians (particularly usa) engage in widespread terrorism?
for example, this recent story about 4 air force drone pilots who turned whistleblowers, they quit because they didn't like the idea of murdering innocent children, and started talking about it:
http://www.globalresearch.ca/drone-pilots-have-bank-accounts-and-credit-...
now, i know it might be hard to grasp that engaging in simplistic notions like christian=good, muslim=bad, is not the answer to life's problems, but that's ok, i think you're relatively intelligent and should be able to handle it.
Stacking,
if you think this nation is governed by Christians, you haven't been paying attention.
btw, Buckaroo, good show...your thrashing got the janus-juices flowing.
janus
janus,
it seems you are not able to follow the thread of discussion.
buckaroo's assertion was that christians don't engage in terrorism.
i provided a clear counter-example proving that assertion is not correct, the drone pilots in question did engage in terrorism, did kill innocent children, and those pilots are christians. it is one example of many.
now, are you really going to try to claim that it's ok and they aren't really responsible for their actions because they were just following orders?
your comment was a diversion, not directly dealing with the issue at hand, the fact that christians do commit acts of terrorism.
uh, US is secular nation. Drone operators are US employees operating at the orders of Mr. Obama Commander in Chief.
Last i heard Mr. Obama had a ring saying that there was one god and Allah was his name.
you a little reading comprehension impaired there, ace?
follow the thread up a couple comments and you'll see i already addressed that exact same point.
"when we invaded Iraq and ruined it," We, what We?
Besides a city council person, when is the last time .gov listened to We?
The Greater Israel Project
The Greater Israel Project lies at the very heart of the AAA’s geopolitical triangulation strategy throughout the Middle East. The United States, the United Kingdom and the Modern State of Israel have collaborated quite closely for well over a century to implement this final phase of destruction of several Mideast nations. Because their once clandestine agenda has now become transparent to the many concerned countries, these 3 nations have become known as the true Axis of Evil in the world today.
“Greater Israel”: The Zionist Plan for the Middle East
Just as the MSI was born out of terrorism, its methodical expansion through the outright theft of Palestinian land has occurred by way of incessant false flag terror operations. These and many other highly deceptive and destructive tactics have been used against those who rightfully inhabit Palestine, just as they are now being utilized in Syria. The very essence of their ‘Relocation Plan’ is the employment of every form of terror. Just like the Armenian Holocaust was implemented by the same Zionist cabal to scare them away from their communities, which it did, the ISIS and Al Nusra terrorist groups have been set up and enabled to do the very same.
The purposeful and slow-motion Zionist genocide of the Palestinian people has likewise furthered the cabal’s Greater Israel agenda. Systematically getting rid of those indigenous peoples throughout much of the Middle East is a central component of that agenda. In this particular regard the AAA globalists seeks not only to remove the Palestinians from the MSI, but the Syrians from their lands as well. Witness what is perhaps the largest mass migration in modern history of Syrian people to Europe. Irrespective of the fact that the forefathers of Syrians and Palestinians alike have lived in the Mideast for centuries and in Israel over millennia, the Zionist cabal is intent on their removal.
ISIS, ISIL and the ISLAMIC STATE
It is now common knowledge among the world community of nations that the United States, United Kingdom and Israel surreptitiously created ISIS and Al Nusra just as they created Al Qaeda. The blueprint for the formation of these types of synthetic terror organizations came from the CIA’s establishment of the Mujahideen in Afghanistan. By the use of proxy armies of paid mercenaries, which were comprised of ‘Islamist’ guerrilla fighters, the USA was able to defeat the Russian military in Afghanistan. That development, in turn, permitted the Taliban to come into power which merely created another tyranny for the Afghans to deal with.
Mujahideen (Arabic: ??????????) is the plural form of mujahid (Arabic: ??????), the term for one engaged in Jihad.[3]
What is crucial to understand is that these mercenary jihadis have nothing to do with the religion of Islam. Whether they were even raised as Muslims is in serious question since many of them were exposed to a false sect of Sunni Islam known as Wahhabism. This form of perverted Islamic fundamentalism was made the official state religion by the crypto-Jewish monarchy of Saudi Arabia with the assistance of their Anglo-American overlords. Likewise, the Dönmeh of Turkey introduced their own kind of Islam which had nothing to do with the Prophet Muhammad or the Koran, and a LOT to do with the pseudo-Kabbalistic practices of the similarly warped Sabbatean sect. ...
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http://stateofthenation2012.com/?p=25505
Islam gave freedom to slaves and equal rights to woman 1400 years age. check and see when this happened in this country, if you know how to use google.
I know the core values of the Zionist Regime. Send in explosive experts and pre-wire buildings 1,2 &7. Next have Netanyahu say '9/11 is really good for Israel', Then have the Jewish neo-cons in the Bush regime send US soldiers to die in Iraq for the benefit of Israel.
Everyday the Rothschild-Fed drops debt bombs on Americans and most of Europe.
I'm going to like anyone the media and both political parties hates. The enemy of my enemy is my friend.
The Philly Daily news is a total rag, but the pciture is crafty -
Propaganda or real danger?
http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/625167/Islamic-State-map-ISIS-territ...
No one is saying jack shit right now that 30+ US states don´t want any Syrian refugees, but Trump is now the new Fuhrer? Bunch of horseshit!
Yeah, who needs logic, when you can be a reactionary dipshit who is well-triangulated as the target in a turkey shoot.
I bet you had at least three Obama bobbleheads shoved up your ass when you typed out that cyber turd, didn't you fuckhead?
i hate to break the news to you there, sport, but GMS is 100% logically correct and it is you that are the fuckhead in this instance.
you want to know why?
you said you like anyone that the media and dems/repubs hate. well, the media and the dems/repubs all hate isis, so that means that you like isis.
understand yet?
try using logic and discrimination instead of knee-jerk reactionary thinking, you'll go farther in life.
"for years now?"
332 years, and to an ever greater degree.
Bullshit. Islamists are inherently pillagers. The Founding Fathers learning this the hard way. They gave no cause for open hostility, and it was only after 15 years of paying annual ransoms that they decided to stick some ragheads on their swords. The First Barbary War is history. The threat of Islam is not.
You really are fucking stupid aren't you.
What makes this comment so wonderful is the way you build to a logical conclusion based on sound reasoning and facts supported by studies, then end a question with a period. Well done fuck tard. Well done. I bet your middle named is Mohammed, isn't it?
Better things to do than banter idle words with this idiot.
But thanks, tosser, for the enquiry.
and no, it's not. But why am I not surprised that you might arrive at that conclusion?
You're not very intelligent are you.
When you are trying to insuilt someone by asking them a sarcastic question, you might want to end the sentence with a question mark ESPECIALLY if in the previous post it was pointed out that you had already failed to do so once. Pavlov's dog learned faster than you fuck tard. I think your best action at this point is to stop playing. My best defense is your words. By the way, if you really had better things to do, you wouldn't have replied at all. Seriously, it's as if you are trying to showcase your stupidity to the world. I must say, you are doing a fantastic job there.
So all you can do is bang on about why I didn't use a question mark. and that's it.
Tosser.
Lag is powerful today
That's a poor excuse for stupidity...
Murdering and pillaging the infidel is a muslim "core value". It's in the book!
The Quran Says that People of Other Religions
are to be Violently Punished in This World
Allah himself fights against the unbelievers (9:30), so why should Muslims not fight in his cause rather than in the cause of evil (4:76)? About 19% of the Quran is devoted to the violent conquest and subjugation of non-Muslims:
Muslims are to expect a reward in this life as well as the next (4:134), so it makes sense that unbelievers should be punished in this life as well:
There are at least two places in the Quran where the violent death of non-Muslims is referred to as Allah's reward for unbelief (2:191, 9:26), as in "such is the reward for unbelievers." Verse 3:56, bluntly states that "those who reject faith" will be "punished with terrible agony in this world" (a vow that Muhammad and his companions personally took it upon themselves to fulfill).
The Quran tells Muslims that Allah uses them to violently punish others:
Allah could slay unbelievers himself, but he makes it a test for Muslims to prove their faith:
One of the most violent chapters in the Quran charters Muhammad and his followers with making Islam "superior over all religions" (9:33).
In the end, All beings on heaven and earth will be forced to bow down to Allah, either willingly or by force:
Muslims are told that Allah "loves those who fight in his way" to make Islam "victorious over all other religions, even though the disbelievers resist" (61:4-11). Those who do resist Islam will be humiliated:
Non-Muslims are to be fought until religion is only for Allah:
Those with "diseased hearts" - which include Christians and Jews according to 5:52 - are to be "seized wherever found and slain with a (fierce) slaughter" (33:60-62) along with "hypocrites" (Muslims who are judged not to be true believers by their associations with unbelievers or their unwillingness to engage in Jihad).
Non-Muslims are to be encroached on, pressured and punished by the Muslims:
Allah will grant Muslims authority and power over all other people:
(Muhammad's companions continued to self-fulfill this prophecy with an aggressive and senseless military expansion that left a trail of bodies from Spain to India).
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/Pages/Quran-Hate.htm
You've obviously spent a lot of time on this haven't you.
Why don't you get a proper job?
Because jobs require critical thinking skills, not cut and paste dogmatism.
Buckeroo is a fool-firster, and, of course, a Zionist troll.
So in your world, I guess there are exactly two kinds of people? Namely, pro-Muslim, or pro-Zionist?
Not a very sophisticated world view.
Eh? How did you work that one out?
What a well-researched, well-reasoned response. The butthurt is strong with you. Might want to get that looked at.
Nope.
harlequin,
you're being destroyed. i'd be embarrassed for ya, but shameless as you are there's no point in expending pity.
but please do continue. the foundation of your logic is brittle and its top is a soft dollop of sand saturated with saccharine sophistry...in other words, you're making the argument for us -- and you're doing a damned fine job of it.
janus
Nobody on ZH makes me feel like Dennis Hopper in apocalypse now like Janus .
What complete and utter drivel.
If you have nothing to say then shut the fuck up. Idiot.
I do say, that was a well researched response.
The dangers of falling into Anti-Semitism are very real. Historically, Anti-Semitism has been a major problem, and it continues to be in some parts of the world today. One of the primary ways in which Anti-Semites unfairly targeted Jews was to vilify Halakha, digging up intolerant views in the rabbinical tradition to smear Judaism with.
But herein lies an irony: many Zionist Jews are now joining Anti-Muslim Christians in vilifying the Islamic tradition in a very similar way. Once Halakha was the target of bigots; today, it is Sharia. Rabbi Eliyahu Stern has written an excellent article about this topic, entitled Don’t Fear Islamic Law in America.
I will be applying the same standards our opponents apply to the Islamic tradition to the Jewish one, to show that Judaism is equally vulnerable to such criticisms. It is hoped that this exercise will encourage people of Judeo-Christian background to be more hesitant in vilifying and targeting Islam. This is purely an exercise in thought, a what if scenario (what if we applied the same standards to your religion as you do onto others?) designed to be the antidote to religious and cultural arrogance.
By clarifying that this constitutes an “exercise in thought” one should know that I am not saying Judaism is XYZ because of ABC, but rather simply that if you insist on arguing that Islam is XYZ due to ABC then–based on your own logic–Judaism and Christianity are also XYZ because they too have ABC. This is a what if? and an if-then argument.
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http://www.loonwatch.com/2011/10/the-top-five-ways-jewish-law-justifies-...
What the Quran-bashers Don’t Want You to Know About the Bible
http://www.loonwatch.com/2011/03/what-the-quran-bashers-dont-want-you-to...
God Loves the Smell of Burning Flesh: Human Sacrifice in the Bible
http://www.patheos.com/blogs/crossexamined/2014/07/god-loves-the-smell-o...
How Israel protects its settlers who burn Palestinian children alive
https://electronicintifada.net/blogs/ali-abunimah/how-israel-protects-it...
The Doctrine of “Superior People”
The Bond between Israel and World Zionism
http://dissidentvoice.org/2015/09/the-doctrine-of-superior-people/
Israeli Discrimination Against Non-Jews Is Carefully Codified in State of Israel's Laws By Dr. Israel Shahak
http://www.wrmea.org/1998-january-february/other-voices-israeli-discrimi...
When Israel Is Mighty
http://youtu.be/YSy6ENVAJlY
Deuteronomy 7New International Version (NIV)
Driving Out the Nations
7 When the Lord your God brings you into the land you are entering to possess and drives out before you many nations—the Hittites, Girgashites, Amorites, Canaanites, Perizzites, Hivites and Jebusites, seven nations larger and stronger than you— 2 and when the Lord your God has delivered them over to you and you have defeated them, then you must destroy them totally.[a] Make no treaty with them, and show them no mercy. 3 Do not intermarry with them. Do not give your daughters to their sons or take their daughters for your sons, 4 for they will turn your children away from following me to serve other gods, and the Lord’s anger will burn against you and will quickly destroy you. 5 This is what you are to do to them: Break down their altars, smash their sacred stones, cut down their Asherah poles[b] and burn their idols in the fire. 6 For you are a people holy to the Lord your God. The Lord your God has chosen you out of all the peoples on the face of the earth to be his people, his treasured possession.
7 The Lord did not set his affection on you and choose you because you were more numerous than other peoples, for you were the fewest of all peoples. 8 But it was because the Lord loved you and kept the oath he swore to your ancestors that he brought you out with a mighty hand and redeemed you from the land of slavery, from the power of Pharaoh king of Egypt. 9 Know therefore that the Lord your God is God; he is the faithful God, keeping his covenant of love to a thousand generations of those who love him and keep his commandments. 10 But
those who hate him he will repay to their face by destruction;
he will not be slow to repay to their face those who hate him.
11 Therefore, take care to follow the commands, decrees and laws I give you today.
12 If you pay attention to these laws and are careful to follow them, then the Lord your God will keep his covenant of love with you, as he swore to your ancestors. 13 He will love you and bless you and increase your numbers. He will bless the fruit of your womb, the crops of your land—your grain, new wine and olive oil—the calves of your herds and the lambs of your flocks in the land he swore to your ancestors to give you. 14 You will be blessed more than any other people; none of your men or women will be childless, nor will any of your livestock be without young. 15 The Lord will keep you free from every disease. He will not inflict on you the horrible diseases you knew in Egypt, but he will inflict them on all who hate you. 16 You must destroy all the peoples the Lord your God gives over to you. Do not look on them with pity and do not serve their gods, for that will be a snare to you.
17 You may say to yourselves, “These nations are stronger than we are. How can we drive them out?” 18 But do not be afraid of them; remember well what the Lord your God did to Pharaoh and to all Egypt. 19 You saw with your own eyes the great trials, the signs and wonders, the mighty hand and outstretched arm, with which the Lord your God brought you out. The Lord your God will do the same to all the peoples you now fear. 20 Moreover, the Lord your God will send the hornet among them until even the survivors who hide from you have perished. 21 Do not be terrified by them, for the Lord your God, who is among you, is a great and awesome God. 22 The Lord your God will drive out those nations before you, little by little. You will not be allowed to eliminate them all at once, or the wild animals will multiply around you. 23 But the Lord your God will deliver them over to you, throwing them into great confusion until they are destroyed. 24 He will give their kings into your hand, and you will wipe out their names from under heaven. No one will be able to stand up against you; you will destroy them. 25 The images of their gods you are to burn in the fire. Do not covet the silver and gold on them, and do not take it for yourselves, or you will be ensnared by it, for it is detestable to the Lord your God. 26 Do not bring a detestable thing into your house or you, like it, will be set apart for destruction. Regard it as vile and utterly detest it, for it is set apart for destruction.
Footnotes:
Deuteronomy 7:2 The Hebrew term refers to the irrevocable giving over of things or persons to the Lord, often by totally destroying them; also in verse 26.
Deuteronomy 7:5 That is, wooden symbols of the goddess Asherah; here and elsewhere in Deuteronomy
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I'll admit I used to persuse the bible.
Mainly to come up with cool names for my D&D characters.
pods
Taking things out of context in the Bible and pretending moral outrage is a favorite sport of Atheists.
Context is everything in the Bible. Failing to include the context makes you a liar.
spend the same amount of time picking a part the bible ;)
If your own full brother, or your son or daughter, or your beloved wife, or you intimate friend, entices you secretly to serve other gods, whom you and your fathers have not known, gods of any other nations, near at hand or far away, from one end of the earth to the other: do not yield to him or listen to him, nor look with pity upon him, to spare or shield him, but kill him. Your hand shall be the first raised to slay him; the rest of the people shall join in with you. You shall stone him to death, because he sought to lead you astray from the Lord, your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, that place of slavery. And all Israel, hearing of this, shall fear and never do such evil as this in your midst. (Deuteronomy 13:7-12 NAB) [they dont believe like you, KILL THEM... BIBLE]
Sounds all well and good until you realize these islamist savages are slaughtering anyone who isn't one of them in every nation in the world including predomitantly islamic ones. You sir, are all wet, turn off NPR.
And when all muslims are successfully annihilated or deemed to pose no threat, they will create other worse enemies to keep everyone begging for more protection. That's how the world works unfortunately.
Moohamhead created islam, not "they"
Really? Although I agree with you that American imperalism needs to stop, and we have contributed immensly to big quagmire and shitstorm that is is now unstable Iraq, Syria Libya, egypt etc...it is a bit niave to think that is the only reason Islam is n the war path.
Study history and you will see Islam has always been on the warpath since it's inception.
Before the Pope and catholic churches crusades were the Islamic crusades...Does the name Khalid al-Walid ring a bell?
634-644 The Caliphate of Umar ibn al-Khattab, who is regarded as particularly brutal.
635 Muslim Crusaders besiege and conquer of Damascus.
636 Muslim Crusaders defeat Byzantines decisively at Battle of Yarmuk.
637 Muslim Crusaders conquer Iraq at the Battle of al-Qadisiyyah (some date it in 635 or 636).
638 Muslim Crusaders conquer and annex Jerusalem, taking it from the Byzantines.
638-650 Muslim Crusaders conquer Iran, except along Caspian Sea.
639-642 Muslim Crusaders conquer Egypt.
641 Muslim Crusaders control Syria and Palestine.
643-707 Muslim Crusaders conquer North Africa.
644 Caliph Umar is assassinated by a Persian prisoner of war; Uthman ibn Affan is elected third Caliph, who is regarded by many Muslims as gentler than Umar.
644-650 Muslim Crusaders conquer Cyprus, Tripoli in North Africa, and establish Islamic rule in Iran, Afghanistan, and Sind.
656 Caliph Uthman is assassinated by disgruntled Muslim soldiers; Ali ibn Abi Talib, son-in-law and cousin to Muhammad, who married the prophet’s daughter Fatima through his first wife Khadija, is set up as Caliph.
656 Battle of the Camel, in which Aisha, Muhammad’s wife, leads a rebellion against Ali for not avenging Uthman’s assassination. Ali’s partisans win.
657 Battle of Siffin between Ali and Muslim governor of Jerusalem, arbitration goes against Ali
661 Murder of Ali by an extremist; Ali’s supporters acclaim his son Hasan as next Caliph, but he comes to an agreement with Muawiyyah I and retires to Medina.
661-680 the Caliphate of Muawiyyah I. He founds Umayyid dynasty and moves capital from Medina to Damascus
673-678 Arabs besiege Constantinople, capital of Byzantine Empire
680 Massacre of Hussein (Muhammad’s grandson), his family, and his supporters in Karbala, Iraq.
691 Dome of the Rock is completed in Jerusalem, only six decades after Muhammad’s death.
705 Abd al-Malik restores Umayyad rule.
710-713 Muslim Crusaders conquer the lower Indus Valley.
711-713 Muslim Crusaders conquer Spain and impose the kingdom of Andalus. This article recounts how Muslims today still grieve over their expulsion 700 years later. They seem to believe that the land belonged to them in the first place.
719 Cordova, Spain, becomes seat of Arab governorship.
732 The Muslim Crusaders are stopped at the Battle of Poitiers; that is, Franks (France) halt Arab advance.
749 The Abbasids conquer Kufah and overthrow Umayyids.
756 Foundation of Umayyid emirate in Cordova, Spain, setting up an independent kingdom from Abbasids.
762 Foundation of Baghdad
785 Foundation of the Great Mosque of Cordova
789 Rise of Idrisid emirs (Muslim Crusaders) in Morocco; foundation of Fez; Christoforos, a Muslim who converted to Christianity, is executed.
800 Autonomous Aghlabid dynasty (Muslim Crusaders) in Tunisia.
807 Caliph Harun al-Rashid orders the destruction of non-Muslim prayer houses and of the Church of Mary Magdalene in Jerusalem.
809 Aghlabids (Muslim Crusaders) conquer Sardinia, Italy.
813 Christians in Palestine are attacked; many flee the country.
831 Muslim Crusaders capture of Palermo, Italy; raids in Southern Italy.
850 Caliph al-Matawakkil orders the destruction of non-Muslim houses of prayer.
855 Revolt of the Christians of Hims (Syria)
837-901 Aghlabids (Muslim Crusaders) conquer Sicily, raid Corsica, Italy, France.
869-883 Revolt of black slaves in Iraq
909 Rise of the Fatimid Caliphate in Tunisia; these Muslim Crusaders occupy Sicily, Sardinia.
928-969 Byzantine military revival, they retake old territories, such as Cyprus (964) and Tarsus (969).
937 The Ikhshid, a particularly harsh Muslim ruler, writes to Emperor Romanus, boasting of his control over the holy places.
937 The Church of the Resurrection (known as Church of Holy Sepulcher in Latin West) is burned down by Muslims; more churches in Jerusalem are attacked .
960 Conversion of Qarakhanid Turks to Islam
966 Anti-Christian riots in Jerusalem
969 Fatimids (Muslim Crusaders) conquer Egypt and found Cairo.
c. 970 Seljuks enter conquered Islamic territories from the East.
973 Israel and southern Syria are again conquered by the Fatimids.
1003 First persecutions by al-Hakim; the Church of St. Mark in Fustat, Egypt, is destroyed.
1009 Destruction of the Church of the Resurrection by al-Hakim (see 937)
1012 Beginning of al-Hakim’s oppressive decrees against Jews and Christians
1015 Earthquake in Palestine; the dome of the Dome of the Rock collapses.
1031 Collapse of Umayyid Caliphate and establishment of 15 minor independent dynasties throughout Muslim Andalus
1048 Reconstruction of the Church of the Resurrection completed
1050 Creation of Almoravid (Muslim Crusaders) movement in Mauretania; Almoravids (also known as Murabitun) are coalition of western Saharan Berbers; followers of Islam, focusing on the Quran, the hadith, and Maliki law.
1055 Seljuk Prince Tughrul enters Baghdad, consolidation of the Seljuk Sultanate.
1055 Confiscation of property of Church of the Resurrection
1071 Battle of Manzikert, Seljuk Turks (Muslim Crusaders) defeat Byzantines and occupy much of Anatolia.
1071 Turks (Muslim Crusaders) invade Palestine.
1073 Conquest of Jerusalem by Turks (Muslim Crusaders)
1075 Seljuks (Muslim Crusaders) capture Nicea (Iznik) and make it their capital in Anatolia.
1076 Almoravids (Muslim Crusaders) (see 1050) conquer western Ghana.
1085 Toledo is taken back by Christian armies.
1086 Almoravids (Muslim Crusaders) (see 1050) send help to Andalus, Battle of Zallaca.
1090-1091 Almoravids (Muslim Crusaders) occupy all of Andalus except Saragossa and Balearic Islands.
1094 Byzantine Emperor Alexius Comnenus I asks western Christendom for help against Seljuk invasions of his territory; Seljuks are Muslim Turkish family of eastern origins; see 970.
Can you provide any examples more recent than 900+ years ago?