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"Let Them Fly There Now": Putin Threatens To Shoot Down Turkish Jets In Syria, Calls Erdogan An Ass Kisser

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It’s been nearly a month since Turkey shot down a Russian Su-24 in what not only represented the most serious escalation to date in Syria’s five year conflict but also marked the first time a NATO member has engaged a Russian or Soviet aircraft in at least six decades.

The “incident” - which came several weeks after Ankara downed what certainly appeared to be a Russian drone - infuriated The Kremlin, setting off a war of words that culminated in a lengthy presentation by the Russian MoD which purported to prove that illicit Islamic State oil flows through Turkey. Both Putin and a number of other Russian officials have implicated Erdogan and his family in the trafficking of illegal crude and there’s speculation that Ankara’s brazen move to fire on the Russian warplane stemmed from Erdogan’s desire to “punish” Russia for disrupting what Deputy Minister of Defence Anatoly Antonov sarcastically called “a brilliant family business.” 

As for the Russian foreign ministry, Sergei Lavrov canceled a planned trip to Turkey and Maria Zakharova went so far as to reference Turkey’s infamous political blogger Fuat Avni (a pseudonym) on the way to suggesting that Ankara had been planning to shoot down a Russian fighter jet for at least a month.

In an effort to ensure that the downing of a Russian warplane in Syria was a “one and done” event, Moscow deployed the Moskva off the coast of Latakia and sent in the S-400 air defense systems (which were rumored to have already been in place). 

Those moves rattled the US and its partners who fear that a nervous Putin might “inadvertently” shoot down an American, French, or British warplane. Indeed Putin ratcheted up the rhetoric last week. While not detailing 'who' he was focused on, the President told a session of the Defense Ministry's collegium that "I order to act extremely tough. Any targets that threaten Russian forces or our infrastructure on the ground should be immediately destroyed."

Well, in case that wasn’t clear enough, Putin took it a step further on Thursday. 

During his annual news conference in Moscow, the Russian President literally dared Erdogan to send Turkish F-16s into Syrian airspace. 

As Bloomberg reports, “President Vladimir Putin signaled that Russia is ready to shoot down any Turkish military aircraft that strays into Syrian airspace." 

“Turkey constantly violated Syrian airspace in the past. Let them fly there now,” he said, pointing out that Russia’s most advanced air-defense system, the S-400, is covering all of Syria.

(in case the S-400s and the Moskva should prove insufficient, Putin always has the "hands on" option)

"This is the 11th press conference Putin will have with Russian and international journalists during the three terms he has served as head of state," Sputnik notes. "These large press meetings, held once a year, usually last several hours. Almost 1,400 journalists have received accreditation for this year’s event." 

As for whether The Kremlin thinks the US was in any way involved in the downing of the Russian warplane, Putin said he wasn't aware of any American involvement, but did suggest (literally) that Erdogan may have been trying to kiss Washington's ass or, in Bloomberg's more politically correct terminology, "Turkey may have been trying to curry favor with the largest member of NATO".

Putin: “If someone in Turkey decided to kiss Americans on a certain body part, I don’t know whether it was right or not."

Watch the full video below.

For those who missed it, here's an infographic look at the S-400:

 

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Thu, 12/17/2015 - 11:17 | 6935020 FireBrander
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"You think Putin is scared ?"

Just wait until Bush is President! jeb Bush will form a "Global Coalition" and march right up the Bears asshole; Jeb is one tough guy!

~~~~~~~~~~

I read a comment on jeb BUSH's last debate appearance:

"He looked like a scared woodchuck sitting in the middle of a 4 lane highway trying to figure how to get out of his situation without getting killed."

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 13:46 | 6935757 Blankone
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Re Haus:  "How well does the S-400 work against the 3rd Gen F-16?"

One of the storylnes about how Turkey shot down Putin's plane is that the Turk jet flew low to avoid detection and was guided by US radar relays and they watched the Russian jet.  Then the Turk jet rose, flew into Syria and fired and then flew back into Turkey.  (No information about if the Turk jet went below radar again in Turkey.)  The attack occured in Syria in a matter of seconds.

Is the S-400 system a laser?  Just how quickly can the S400 be used?  Detection, decision, lock on, fire, travel time.  Total time to get there from a ship at sea or the Russian base on the coast?  And if the Turk jumps up, fires and then drops down again below radar can the S400 find (even if the jet dropped down prior to the S400 initial lock on)?

Did the Turk jet even fly into Syria or did it fire from Turkey?  Is Putin going to fire on a NATO member for flying in it's own country?

After the jet was shot down, NATO (not Turkish) flew into Syria and bombed a known Syrian military base (even blaming Russia).  NATO has continued to fly into Syria, Turkey will not, and Putin will not fly another jet into Turkey even for 15 seconds.

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 14:56 | 6936102 Bring the Gold
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So blankone. How do you explain the recent Qatari royalty kidnapping (my money is it was Shia militias), arrival of the first 100 Russian tanks out of 300 into Iraq, Kerry saying Assad can stay AND Biden telling turkey to withdraw from Iraq? Because NATO is so omnipotent. I'm having a hard time squaring your All powerful NATO positions with...reality. I know you are paid by the post or by the word so I look forward to your response the way you look forward to your shill paycheck. Right? I mean you aren't dumb enough to do it for free are you?

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 15:29 | 6936238 Blankone
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How would the S-400 system (which some say was already there) have stopped the shooting down of Putin's jet. 

Putin's jet being shot down is something that did happen. Putin's airliner being taken down is something that did happen.

The US/NATO flying jets into Syria, in disregard of the S-400's, and bombing a Syrian military base is something that did happen.

Has Putin fired a shot against the source of those events? 

Was Biden making a public display to deceive?  Does NATO's actions match your interpretations of their public announcements.  

Has Putin lived up to the 2007 contract to sell the S-300 (or later) to Syria.  NO.

Has Putin lived up to the 2007 contract to sell the S-300 (or later) to Iran. NO.

Does Putin's actions live up to the claim that Russia wants to save Syria or Iraq or Iran?

 

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 16:36 | 6936636 Bring the Gold
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Good to see you are paid. Classic troll behavior. Responding to questions with questions. I've never mentioned Russia selling arms. I believe Russia is working closely with Iran/Iraq/Syria to protect Russian geopolitical assets. They are constrained of course by a psychotic neocon NATO which apparently is just fine with WWIII if they have political cover. Now about my questions...

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 11:11 | 6934990 J Jason Djfmam
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Where's the headline: "Putin takes aim at Turkey"?

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 12:46 | 6935510 MrNosey
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Putin has an ace up his sleeve and he has threatened to expose the agenda to the world......

http://beforeitsnews.com/conspiracy-theories/2015/12/is-russian-president-vladimir-putin-a-reptilian-kgb-time-traveler-video-2472970.html

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 13:29 | 6935693 Badsamm
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I think he was asking if Erdogan spits or swallows.

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 21:21 | 6937814 OhNo
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Its all red white and blue you fuckin morons where all going to war and it is the plan. The Zionist's have been in the CCCP from the beginning, wake up Zeroheads there are no sides when it comes to your demise

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 10:02 | 6934647 Bill of Rights
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Poor Finger discipline Mr Putin...Nice rifle.

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 10:08 | 6934676 LoneStarHog
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By the looks on faces it appears that he has acquired his target...Where should his finger be to discharge the weapon?

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 11:31 | 6935106 Latina Lover
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Poor finger discipline??? I'll bet Putin know EXACTLY how to use that AK74.

The only finger discipline Obongo knows is how to fondle a prostate.

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 10:08 | 6934679 gdogus erectus
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He was checking out the trigger pull. "Ahhhh, nice. Feels like 3.5 lbs..."

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 11:33 | 6935131 BarkingCat
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They don't use pounds in Russia.
Only a nation with the most retarded school system has not converted to the metric system.

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 23:36 | 6938134 Calmyourself
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And which system went to the moon...

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 10:11 | 6934695 wildbad
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poor only if not firing..he IS firing.

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 10:17 | 6934717 Bill of Rights
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An no one wearing ear protection?  I should say not.

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 10:25 | 6934757 Ms No
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Putin doesn't pull triggers, he intimidates them and they pull themselves. ( ; 

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 10:47 | 6934879 Cognitive Dissonance
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That right there nicely describes the art of propaganda and political doublespeak.

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 11:20 | 6935036 cheech_wizard
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He might just be trying to dethrone Chuck Norris if he keeps that up.

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 11:32 | 6935129 Latina Lover
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Give it a few more years, and I'll bet Chuck Norris applies for Russian Citizenship.

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 15:27 | 6936231 Volkodav
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check out Jeff Monson, videos and his interviews on this subject

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 11:29 | 6935091 valjoux7750
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Oh no, its safety man. Who the fuck wesrs eye protection to fire a gun except the pussies in the west. You got kids? Bet you make em wear helmets when they ride their bikes.  Oops my bad i thought you said eye, i see now you said ear. 

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 10:19 | 6934724 Beowulf55
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going to be awful loud in a closed room when it goes off.............

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 10:30 | 6934783 Bendromeda Strain
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Dry fire

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 11:01 | 6934952 Beowulf55
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kind of like dry heat.........

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 11:07 | 6934976 NeedtoSecede
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Probably some kind of simulator/laser for training.  Notice the keyboard and mouse.  Live fire in that small room would damage some eardrums, and as someone else pointed out, no hearing protection. 

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 10:17 | 6934714 dogismycopilot
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He's got the rifle seated in his shoulder well, good forward grip, good grip on handle, finger on trigger, pull, click. 

Throw Obama the Ass Clown an AK and he'd probably scream like a little girl, run in place, hold his gray ass, ashing head and jump in Chewbaca's arms. 

 

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 10:38 | 6934837 praxis
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Terrible forward grip dude.  Arm should be straight and hand on the forward end of the rifle...not clutching the magazine...

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 10:57 | 6934925 dogismycopilot
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he is a sitting stationary position but i get your point.

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 13:45 | 6935754 golden kafir
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Funny i read that as Poo finger

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 10:03 | 6934655 youngman
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The boys and their toys,,,,,and they want to play with them...

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 10:04 | 6934658 firstdivision
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Shit.  I'm running out of popcorn.

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 10:05 | 6934663 youngman
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He is just killing a journalist....a daily thing in Russia

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 10:10 | 6934692 Johnny Horscaulk
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michael Hastings would agree with you but he's.. Indisposed at the moment.

You ought to stick to dancing, handsome:

http://youtu.be/UHfxsWi_YOY

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 10:47 | 6934874 Onan_the_Barbarian
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Perhaps Serena Shim would have some comment on that.

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 12:13 | 6935342 _ConanTheLibert...
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Hey that was kinda funny guys.

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 10:05 | 6934665 Mark Mywords
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Tick tock...

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 12:14 | 6935351 _ConanTheLibert...
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...mother...

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 10:05 | 6934666 WillyGroper
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Pooty sure knows how to manage a photo-op.

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 10:07 | 6934671 bthunder
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Shootin' with one eye  closed?  What an amateur!  No wonder he was bounced from KGB school and sent to inform on students in Leningrad University.  That's the only thing he was good at.  That, and kissing ass of a certain law professor who later became the city mayor and needed Puti-poo's connections so together they could steal a few million dollars.

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 10:14 | 6934710 cpnscarlet
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I am outraged! Outraged! You are biased against opposite-eye dominant individuals! The only way we can shoot is with one eye closed.

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 10:19 | 6934731 roadhazard
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That KGB "gunslinger" walk. lol

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 10:59 | 6934942 Johnny Horscaulk
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Lol. What Jewish owned neocon rag did you read that in? And do you let Bill Kristol cum in your mouth, too, or just in your ass-pussy?

http://articles.latimes.com/2000/mar/19/news/mn-10446/2

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 12:50 | 6935538 Mr. Cynic
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If you consistenly hit the target you're shooting correctly, whether you have one eye open or two.

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 15:24 | 6936218 Volkodav
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too much trival bullshit comments...

who thinks he is shooting?  just grow up...

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 10:08 | 6934675 buzzsaw99
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vlad is holding that (nice, btw) rifle like a putz. he just lost a bunch of he man points right there.

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 10:30 | 6934753 buzzsaw99
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i'll not argue with you there. just saying, vlad probably rose to power via polonium, not pistolas.

edit: btw, i know lots youse guyz got a man crush on vlad. stop acting so butthurtz(tm). it's ironic, the zh man crush gang loves vlad almost as much as the usa mic generals.

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 10:31 | 6934791 . . . _ _ _ . . .
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He's no less psychopathic than any of the other world leaders, but at least he plays by the rules. Besides, the Russian people love him; that's what counts in the end.

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 10:34 | 6934819 roadhazard
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The N. Koreans love their leader too.

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 10:36 | 6934829 . . . _ _ _ . . .
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No they don't, but if they say so, they are disappeared.

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 10:59 | 6934938 Johnny Horscaulk
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No, they don't, and the comparison is pretty absurd anyway.

Who hurt you, roadapples?

Fri, 12/18/2015 - 01:48 | 6938279 SixIsNinE
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i wouldn't agree with that - Putin seems much more in the "sane" category of elected "LEADERS" of the current crop of global figures.  Contrast to say, Chavez, the arch-nemesis of the early to mid - Naughties .... and wasn't Lil ' Kim un ....certified after the Dennis Rodman affair & romance topped off with  THE  Interview Tantrum ?  or a Mahdi Army Iraqi ?  or the foxing bandit of Afghani lore ?    no, St. Pooty-poot seems not to run in any of these rag-tag trails or packs ...

and any fair minded WO/MAN wouldn't be susceptible to partisan hack drubbings at this stage of the game now would we ?  that is, we're way past the point of fun & games and many have had more than just an eye poked out ...

do you - yes, YOU - want PEACE enough to go beyond our armchair keyboard position and taking the necessary steps to prevent further Bullying War Death tactics ? 

 

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 15:20 | 6936194 Volkodav
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'The Phony Litvinenko Murder'  William Dunkerley

 

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 12:15 | 6935357 Kirk2NCC1701
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He's holding it just fine.

Besides, one ex-cia source on ZH has him having had experience as a KGB assassin, with 38 kills. How many do YOU have, Schlomo?

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 10:10 | 6934678 XXL66
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where can i buy those 1kg putin silver coins ?

btw he called him a licker, like "to pass the tongue over the surface of" not a kisser, big difference if you ask me

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 10:09 | 6934680 MoHillbilly
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Calm down Vlad, Don't make us send in Aykroyd and Chase.

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 10:31 | 6934787 MoHillbilly
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How can you downvote  Spies Like Us? The tits in that film give it a automatic pass

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 10:46 | 6934873 Lorca's Novena
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AH! So you are the DLG20's!!!

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 10:13 | 6934683 roadhazard
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Uh, it was Russian jets in Turkey, Pootin. I would love to see you shoot down a Turkish jet in Turkey though.

PS: I'm still waiting for Pootin to take his, "proof" that Turkey is buying ISIS supplied oil to the UN. zzzz

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 10:14 | 6934707 Johnny Horscaulk
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Nope. Russian jet was briefly in the self-declared 'buffer zone' turkey claimed, inside syrias legal territory, on a pre-announced flight path.

Isis of course has no air force so the buffer zone seems... Odd.

In any event, the turkish jets with help from an american awac pursued into Syrian airspace not inside Turkeys self declared buffer zone (inside syria) to actually fire their missiles.

And Turkey makes a custom of violating Greek airspace.

Oh and massacring Kurds and arming isis.

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 10:24 | 6934751 roadhazard
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self declared buffer zone... lmao, Yeah I have one too.

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 10:32 | 6934800 gezley
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Is that the no-man's land between your ears?

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 10:37 | 6934834 roadhazard
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No, that's the one between yours.

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 11:00 | 6934946 Allen_H
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Great come back there, must of aced troll school.

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 13:17 | 6935635 Atomizer
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Nice flag, we will encourage the 1% to partake a Mars expedition. They will only last about 90 days. Don't look for the handout to fund a tit's up mission. Let them fund it to die. 

http://www.scottish-at-heart.com/flag-of-scotland.html

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 14:13 | 6935895 Allen_H
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Aye, but to correct you it would only last +/-80 000ft. It would be a great ball of flame to watch.

https://dublinsmickdotcom.wordpress.com/2015/09/27/i-bring-you-the-very-...

Fri, 12/18/2015 - 01:51 | 6938285 SixIsNinE
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they're just identical twins ....

space programs seem to draw twins in like moths to a flame  

/s

Fri, 12/18/2015 - 06:03 | 6938440 Allen_H
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Aye, its ne mistake that disney, NASA and scuba diving are located in Florida, I researched it myself as well, check on NASA, they all scuba divers, to the casual observer 'its just space training' I think NOT.

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 13:32 | 6935706 Atomizer
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Roadhazard is a lassie who promotes feminism. Let her die in a coffin with her sex toys. 

We saw this focus group upwinding a mission. Just read the headlines today. 

Desperately creating the past, as a future event never occurred. 

Spiritual Fascism

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 13:57 | 6935752 roadhazard
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Thank you for responding. Down votes are so cheap. Personal attacks are worth so much more.

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 17:38 | 6936975 kiwidor
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i repeat what i have said before "i hate the fucken turks".  fuck 'em. time for missiles and destruction.

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 10:25 | 6934754 Joe A
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For a whopping 5 seconds that plane was in Turkey's airspace, if it was at all there. And the Ruskie was shot down over Syria. 5 seconds apparently were enough to upset 60 years of history where in the confrontation between NATO and Russia (as part of SU and now independent) never a plane was shot down apart from that Powers U2 flight.

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 10:31 | 6934789 roadhazard
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Just for the sake of facts. Russia had been violating Turkish airspace regularly and had been told to stop numerous times. I think they finally got the message, huh.

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 10:44 | 6934866 Collectivism Killz
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Countries violate each others airspace all the time. Shooting down another country's jet that isn't posing a direct threat is simply a dumb provocation. Turkey routinely violates Syrian and Iraqi airspace to bomb the Kurds, they deserve not just a bloody nose, but to be beaten unconscious. As I have said before, challenging the Putin worship is one thing, siding with an Islamo-fascist dicktastership is another.

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 10:54 | 6934898 roadhazard
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I don't side with anyone. But I do reject the Pootin lovers one sided BS on ZH. Get a fucking grip.

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 11:36 | 6935162 Latina Lover
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You're just jealous of Putin, LOL.  Perhaps you fantasize of Putin placing his hand on your pistol, or should I say pistolette?

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 11:42 | 6935191 BarkingCat
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No, it wants Putin's pistol in its worn out holster.

Fri, 12/18/2015 - 01:55 | 6938290 SixIsNinE
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just curious - how have you managed to keep your avatar - especially this long  - like that ?

i remember early Zero Years when that style was all the rage but it was what, 2010 when the Tyler's nixed all that?   you may have answered previously and i've missed it, so sorry if rehashing something there.... but perhaps others might be able to hop on the bandwagon, spice things up again a bit, eh ?

 

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 10:57 | 6934928 viahj
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NATO is violating Lybian and Syrian airspace.

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 11:09 | 6934982 Allen_H
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NATO have that USSA terrorist thing, they think they are exceptional, the laws don't apply to them. mentioning violating airspace, all the friggin drones in everybody elses airspace looking for hospitals, weddings, funerals and schools.

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 15:14 | 6936144 Volkodav
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bs lie....or show your proof?

even the kebabs didn't lie that big...

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 11:59 | 6935291 . . . _ _ _ . . .
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"PS: I'm still waiting for Pootin to take his, "proof" that Turkey is buying ISIS supplied oil to the UN."

Everything at the UN is a slow process but:

https://www.rt.com/news/325826-turkey-us-isis-oil-un/

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 15:22 | 6936202 roadhazard
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That's all you got to sell me, sos. So you are telling me that if the US doesn't say something at a certain meeting the world except for ZH know nothing about it. And was the question even asked. Those ruskies are wilie fuckers you know. Transcript please.

Fri, 12/18/2015 - 03:18 | 6938354 . . . _ _ _ . . .
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" if the US doesn't say something at a certain meeting the world except for ZH know nothing about it."

That's how the UN works. If the US doesn't vote on it, it didn't happen. See Chomsky for more on this.

"Those ruskies are wilie..."

They all are. It's called 'diplomacy.'

"Transcript please."

LMGTFY!

Do your own research, as I did to reach my conclusion. There's too much info on this to post here.

http://www.securitycouncilreport.org/index.php.

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 10:09 | 6934685 eri
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Turkey shoot anyone?

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 10:10 | 6934686 blown income
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Bet the blonde has nice cash & prizes

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 10:10 | 6934687 TheSheepWolf
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What da fuck is this RU propaganda here on ZH? I am getting tired of it.

They only good thing about Russia is that the US is way, way worse.

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 10:14 | 6934709 Ghordius
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bah, Russia sports lots of good things, and the first that comes to my mind is the young women's looks

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 10:37 | 6934835 gaoptimize
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For sure, but they make even better mothers.  I am surrounded by my little goddlings by one.  My 9-yo and I did the B-52's "Private Idaho" at Karaoke last week.  There is nothing as fine as children by a Russian goddess.

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 10:15 | 6934711 Johnny Horscaulk
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What do you identify as 'Russian propaganda' here?

Exactly I mean.

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 10:19 | 6934728 Ghordius
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the picture of Vlad handling the newest AK might be well suited to warm up the hearts of pro-gun Americans for him and the pro-Russian geopolitical cause. just a thought

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 10:24 | 6934752 dogismycopilot
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no mate, for that Kalashnikov Concern has some really hawt Russian girls they put into fatigues and body armor with helmets on at the defense shows...you'd need a fucking can opener to get to one of them. 

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 15:10 | 6936141 Volkodav
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Working  there are design engineers and others in 40-50's would be trophy wives in US...

 

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 10:26 | 6934765 Johnny Horscaulk
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Did you pull a hammy reaching for that one? ;0}

Maybe, Ghordo, maybe...

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 10:31 | 6934797 Sturm und Drang
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El Presidente drill with a .44 Mag Mare's leg under 10 seconds would be impressive...

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 10:33 | 6934807 Dr. Engali
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There is something to be said about seeing a leader looking down the barrel of a gun vs the clown we have wearing mom jeans riding his tricycle. 

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 10:33 | 6934815 Sturm und Drang
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"We're so fucked" comes to mind...

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 11:31 | 6935119 css1971
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Plus a 13% flat income tax and a balanced governmental budget... Recent liberalisation of firearm ownership...

Sounds almost ... Austrian ...

Fri, 12/18/2015 - 01:59 | 6938294 SixIsNinE
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and isn't there something about true Ownership of apartments in the cities?  Pretty sure I heard Dmitry Orlov talking about that ... like when USSR crashed in the 1990s people suffered and were very impoverished - BUT they weren't worried about being evicted or banksters pulling the Scrooge on them ...

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 10:26 | 6934768 Dr. Engali
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If you don't like it don't read it. It's really that simple.

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 15:04 | 6936124 Volkodav
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looks some disagree.....I think you know nothing about Russia

 

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 10:10 | 6934688 blown income
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Bet the blonde has nice cash & prizes

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 10:41 | 6934846 Sturm und Drang
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"Well, not only..."

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 10:10 | 6934689 cpnscarlet
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The greatest danger of the 2016 election is the prospect of a President Trump and Putin in a military face-off and showdown.

They will either come out the closest of friends or each pushing "the" button. There will be no middle ground.

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 10:19 | 6934727 Joe A
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They will be best friends until the are not. Then run.

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 10:23 | 6934747 Savyindallas
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No chance  -Putin is always reasonable and Trump has shown himself able to to be thoughtful and reasonable on foreign policy. Excepting Rand Paul, at least trump thinks and speaks for hiself, while the others are forced to read a Neocon script fed to them by AIPAC and zionist donors like Adelson, Singer and Braman. I'll trust Trump's judgment rather than the jewish Zionist billionaires who are psychopathically lead by their own interests and the Likudnik branch of Israel. 

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 13:35 | 6935717 FrankDrakman
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Trump is a businessman, not an ideologue. In the end, he wants things DONE, not endlessly jawed over. I'd bet he and Putin get along like long-lost brothers - each is strong enough internally that he won't take shit from anyone, but also pragmatic enough not to try to test someone who might be stronger (or in the US case, more crazy). They will size each other up, Trump will realize (as Putin's being saying all along) it's the West against Wahabbi for the next little while, and they will combine to slap the all the ME dicks (including the one with the blue/white flag) into place. 

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 10:36 | 6934828 dogismycopilot
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Putin and Trump will negotiate over vodka with lots of Russian models available.

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 10:42 | 6934850 Sturm und Drang
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Diplomacy done right!

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 11:39 | 6935177 Latina Lover
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Exactly! Two men thrashing it out over drinks and girls, instead of killing millions.

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 12:24 | 6935389 Kirk2NCC1701
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LOL. Each man saying "Raise. See you"

And then each man "going all in".

Now that's how you poke 'er!

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 14:59 | 6936100 Volkodav
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...  I estimate they will get along famously

meaning each respect and predictable...

 

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 10:10 | 6934691 dogismycopilot
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Putin appears to know his way around an AK. I bet Obama the Ass Clown has never even held an M4 let alone shot one. (I think that is just a standard Ak74 but with nicer furniture President Putin is holding).

The new AK-12 is a nice rifle. Much nicer than those Colt M4s that ISIS have been given.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AK-12 

Fri, 12/18/2015 - 10:25 | 6938845 roadhazard
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I guess ISIS just sports the AK's for parades, moron.

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 10:11 | 6934697 apberusdisvet
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Unfortunately, the sheeple still believe PUTIN...BAD, NATO...GOOD, and that the neocon psychos who owe their ultimate allegience to the Rothschild cabal, are patriots.

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 10:20 | 6934737 Atomizer
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Always tune into the local NATO News Channel. You can connect the dots. 

http://www.nato.int/

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 10:12 | 6934700 Atomizer
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Erdogan is tree hugging Mark Zuckerberg's cock limb branch. I wouldn't worry. They will be round up at appropriate times. 

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 10:12 | 6934703 Sturm und Drang
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"Dis is gettink bettah by de minute."

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 10:18 | 6934713 seataka
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A founder of the Patriot Party of Virginia, 1992, - formed from what was left of Perot movement, is Root'n4Putin

Write in Putin for President in 2016 < would do more to prevent WWIII than Bernie or Trump.

 

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 10:17 | 6934715 Dazar Nummers
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Ankara is unsettlingly precarious. President Putin stand strong.

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 10:17 | 6934716 Cautiously Pess...
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Oh yeah Putin?  Well here is our fearless leader giving it a go on a shotgun, while proudly wearing mom jeans.  Put that in your pipe and smoke it!!!

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2013/02/02/white-house-releases-photo-of-obama-shooting-shotgun/

 

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 14:17 | 6935911 Kirk2NCC1701
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The significant items in this pic are:

 

1. Obama is a leftie shooter, which makes him left-eye and right-brain dominant.  Psych profilers take note.

2. Note that the shotgun has a Vent on the top of the barrel, near its tip.  Presumably for less vertical kick.  What model shotgun is he using? 

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 10:17 | 6934719 souljaboy
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I can't help but think that every foreign policy move by the USA is meant to boost the presidential aspirations of Hillary Clinton.

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 10:23 | 6934720 Amun
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After a phone call between Gen. Joseph Dunford, the chairman of the US Joint Chiefs of Staff, and Gen. Valery Gerasimov, the chief of the Russian General Staff  US ordered its F-15 to leave Turkey and go back to UK. So, this implies Russia told US it would shoot down Turks and Yanks over SAR.

 

Note that the phone call was requested by Gen. Joseph Dunford

 

http://sputniknews.com/military/20151215/1031785092/cooperation-operatio...


http://www.defensenews.com/story/defense/policy-budget/leaders/2015/11/3...


Thu, 12/17/2015 - 14:31 | 6935948 Kirk2NCC1701
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There are more shades of gray in such discussions than most people appreciate, but I can imagine that as "soldier to soldier", they had a good talk. Generally speaking, this is probably the case.  I can also imagine that...

- Even though the US will not abandon 'Turkey', they have no qualms abandoning Erdogan/Erdonuts, as he's become a "loose cannon" and too dangerous for everyone on both sides.

- The US recalls its planes temporarily, to send Erdonuts a message.  Even if he refuses to regain sanity, the intent then would be for calmer and wiser heads around him to reel him in, or to cast him out.

The politics of brinksmanship and psychological isolation, at a geopolitical level.

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 10:18 | 6934722 Bill of Rights
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US Congress moves on IMF reforms

http://www.dw.com/en/us-congress-moves-on-imf-reforms/a-18921709


Wednesday morning in Washington, Republican and Democratic Party members of the US Congress announced agreement on an omnibus spending bill that included a provision to legally enact reforms to the International Monetary Fund (IMF) agreed by the Obama Administration in 2010, according to a report by AFP.

"We take note of the inclusion in the bill of language that would authorize the IMF's 2010 Quota and Governance Reforms by the US Congress. We look forward to the outcome of the legislative process," IMF spokesman Gerry Rice said in a statement.

The reforms, which could not take effect until they'd been ratified by Congress, will increase the share of IMF voting rights assigned to some of the world's most powerful economies, including China. However, the USA, Europe and Japan will continue to dominate the Fund.

 

Here is the omnibus spending bill.

 

http://docs.house.gov/billsthisweek/20151214/CPRT-114-HPRT-RU00-SAHR2029-AMNT1final.pdf

 

“US Congress advances long-delayed IMF reforms” (2 hours ago from 1:04pm EST)

 

https://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/a/30385116/us-congress-advances-long-delayed-imf-reforms/

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 10:20 | 6934738 Sturm und Drang
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Ominous maybe?

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 10:19 | 6934726 NoWayJose
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The sad part is that it takes a Trump or a Putin to bring up the subject of protecting a country's sovereignty - something that used to be assumed to exist.

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 14:21 | 6935933 Lucky Leprachaun
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And that's why both are attracting such venom from TPTB and the MSM.

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 10:20 | 6934734 MoHillbilly
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AH I can see it now,

In this corner, President Putin, shooting rifles and lining up all the bears he's killed

In the other corner, President Trump, flashing bank statements and lining up all the models he's banged

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 10:22 | 6934740 Sturm und Drang
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Studliness...

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 10:31 | 6934796 Collectivism Killz
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Yes, I when Trump learns of Russia's 13 percent flat tax and sees how beautiful the women are, he will defect. Let's hope he picks someone good for VP.

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 11:16 | 6935015 Jethro
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I'm not a Putin nut-hugger. I know that he's a dangerous man, and a worthy adversary. I can respect that he loves his country, even if him and some of affiliates have fleeced the country to some extent. He, at least, won't let Russia be somebody else's bitch.

Compare and contrast with Merkle and Obama, both of which can't roll over fast enough and sacrifice their countrymen (possibly not actually in Obama's case), and native culture fast enough.

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 19:03 | 6937299 mkkby
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Yep.  When the western immigration invasion is done, the west will be mud and idiocracy will be complete.  Who will rule the world?

Russia and Isreal, with their untainted white genetics and higher IQ.  Hey snowden, how do you get a russian passport?

Fri, 12/18/2015 - 01:36 | 6938269 cheech_wizard
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>how do you get a russian passport?

Same here, I've had enough of the American shit show.

Know what I did today? Seems a disclosure agreement with the FBI prevents me from telling you.

Standard Disclaimer: Basically the U.S. is fucked.

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 10:21 | 6934739 Joe Plane
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Sacrificed some time to listen to him live. It's worth it.

Not sure whether there is another head of a global power state who sits for several hours answering questions, any questions.

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 10:23 | 6934745 Johnny Horscaulk
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Im not sure that Putin is 'daring' Erdogan so much as saying 'see what happens.'

A close translation to American English may have been, in response to a reporter's question about Turkish attacks on Russian jets in Syria in future:

'I wish a nigga *would*'

Still, be nice to see him just avoid public bluster and help walk this thing back some.

Then again- shooting at parachuting pilots and rescue choppers and such... russia has been *remarkably* restrained.

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 10:38 | 6934840 Collectivism Killz
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Exactly. The real emphasis of Putin's statement is that Turkey bullies everyone in the area and has routinly messed with Syria and the Kurds. This is a polite reminder that the new tough kid is in the school yard and not inclined to tolerate any more bullies.

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 10:26 | 6934764 The Ram
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I love the assault rifle.  Anyone know what type?  I suspect some type of kalashnikov, 7.62??

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 10:26 | 6934767 yogibear
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Obama's Victoria Nuke-land is looking for a big war.

It will vaporize all the liberals as well. 

Bill Gates wanted drastic population reduction.

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 10:28 | 6934772 dogismycopilot
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hey, whoever down vote me, the AK-12 appears to be a great piece of gear and 1/4 the price of an FN SCAR and it probably has tighter grouping. http://www.sadefensejournal.com/wp/?p=1841

 

"The most important novel feature of the AK-12 is the caliber-swap concept.  The AK-12 receiver is said to have been re-designed to allow barrel-swapping and thus caliber-changing (but honestly, it doesn’t look like it changed much, and certainly no quick-change features are present).  The basic version (and the only one so far demonstrated) is chambered for the 5.45mm x 39, but it can be changed to the original AK round, the 7.62mm x 39, or the 5.56mm x 45. "

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 11:31 | 6935118 Baa baa
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I find gun converstaions on ZH mildly amusing...Not 'dissen anyone, it's just the venue.

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 11:35 | 6935149 KnightTakesKing
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The AK-12 is an improvement but I'd still rather use an M4.

Fri, 12/18/2015 - 07:39 | 6938492 Flagit
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Can't wait for season four.

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 15:51 | 6936369 Kirk2NCC1701
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I like the AK-12 in full firepower: with a 95-round drum magazine and 40mm GP-34 grenade launcher attached.

Wolves beware!  ;-)

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