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We're All Fascists Now
Submitted by James E. Miller via TakiMag.com,
After decades of bitterly partisan acrimony, a consensus has been forged. Americans on all sides of the political compass finally agree on something: Donald Trump is a “fascist.”
And they say our country is too divided politically to see eye to eye on anything.
Liberals, who are more apt to liken someone they disagree with to Hitler than any other group, get their rocks off pinning the fascist label on Trump. The Week’s Ryan Cooper is the biggest perpetrator of this linguistic stratagem. He’s written numerous articles on why Trump is a fascist threat to the nation. Democratic presidential hopeful Martin O’Malley is also fond of calling the Donald the F-word.
Fascist-mongering is not exclusive to the left. A national security advisor for illegal-alien-loving Jeb! Bush is guilty of the verbal slander. One of Ohio governor John Kasich’s super PACs is subtly linking Trump to fascism by comparing him to Nazi Germany. Marco Rubio’s war cheerleader Max Boot called Trump a fascist while admitting it’s not a term he “uses loosely or often.” Libertarian writer Jeffrey Tucker says that Trump’s ideology “is best described as fascism.”
With all this fashy talk, one might get the idea that the two sides of the political establishment are working in cahoots to take down the candidate who best represents all those Middle American Radicals. You might also think that Donald Trump is an anomaly—that his creeping fascistic style is new to American politics.
But what does “fascism” even mean? The way commentators toss around the word, you’d think it came with a precise definition. And you’d think that Mr. Trump embodies that definition in his unpredictable, fuck-you-style campaign.
But, of course, you’d be wrong to assume such veracity on the part of the media. The problem with the word “fascism” is that it’s used so much it has lost all meaning. Basically, pundits use “fascism” to describe anything or anyone who goes against their ideology. With Donald Trump rampaging Godzilla-like through all the political establishment’s sacred idols—political correctness, porous borders, the aversion to criticizing any race or religion besides white Christians—it only makes sense that he’s been attacked as an überfascist.
In the mid–20th century, fascism actually meant something. The Old Right journalist John T. Flynn described the governing philosophy as a capricious, power-mongering dictatorship. “First we must note one important difference between Communism and Fascism which becomes clear here,” he wrote. While socialists and communists had a “definite philosophy,” fascists, on the other hand, “improvised as the movement went along.” Citing Benito Mussolini’s governing style in Italy, Flynn deduced the “essential ingredients of fascism.” They include a government unrestrained by constitutional limits, a dictator who makes it his job to lead the nation to full vitality, an economy that is overseen by a vast bureaucracy, and a society that is highly militaristic and dependent on an imperialist complex.
Gee, don’t those all sound eerily similar to the federal gargantuan we call Washington today?
Certainly, Donald Trump is running on a fascist campaign platform. He’s using the sheer power of his celebrity to drown out all opposition. He talks about using the Oval Office as a tool to get the country winning again, and not as a solemn duty. Plus, he boasts recklessly about bombing the shit out of our enemies.
The critics are right, Donald Trump’s campaign is based upon fascist principles. But here’s the thing: What campaign isn’t?
Former first lady, senator, and secretary of state Hillary Clinton is running for president based solely on her personality and connections to the country’s elite. She wants the government to play an even larger role in people’s personal lives than it does now. In a recent debate she declared, “The American president has to both keep our families safe and make the economy grow in a way that helps everyone—not just those at the top.” Control freak, much?
Florida senator Marco Rubio is no different. The boy wonder has based his entire campaign on a muscular foreign policy and his reputation as a great communicator. He has his own plan to create an “economic renaissance in America.” And he speaks glowingly about restoring America’s leadership in the world.
If Donald Trump is a megalomaniac salivating over taking control of American Weimar, then both Hillary Clinton and Marco Rubio are führers in the making. The same goes for the rest of the field, where each and every candidate aspires to be the Celebrity-in-Chief. Trump only looks worse because he doesn’t have the benefit of a sympathetic media on his side.
Nobody wants to admit it, but fascism defines modern American government. Washington, D.C., isn’t just a leviathan with its controlling tentacles in, around, and on top of everything. It is the molder and shaper of nearly all public life. Corporations take their cues from the federal government. The president tells us how to behave, what norms are appropriate, and how we should feel after a national catastrophe. The American public looks with reverence to the Oval Office.
In his book Fascism Versus Capitalism, Lew Rockwell wrote, “The state, for the fascist, is the instrument by which the people’s common destiny is realized, and in which the potential for greatness is to be found.”
Is that not the platform of every leading presidential aspirant, including Donald Trump?
The sensationalism of the modern presidency means that we’re all fascists now. All social systems rely on power to keep the citizenry in line. We happen to live in a constitutional republic that has fascist elements. We should thank our lucky stars that it isn’t much worse.
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Any imperialistic state as to be fascist, you cannot be democratic and liberal and run an empire at the same time. The USA have become a fascist state while pretending to be a democracy. Fewer and fewer people participate in the electoral process and accept the government that they have not chosen, they have become detached and hopeless: as the citizens of a fascist state. The USA have embarqued in an aggressive and imperialistic campaign against all coutries that do not accept to be dominated, either politically or economically, by declaring them as enemies. Like in the past, fascist states always end up in bringing misery and suffering to their people and the rest of teh world.
Most all of those who fought in WWII against the Axis were Capitalist Republics or Communists. THEY WON and now just 70 years later everyone of them are National Socialists. This is because of the Progressive movement.
There is only one Capitalist Republic left and that is Iceland. (They let their banks go under and jailed all the crooks).
Worse yet, is the fact that National Socialism needs a race war to survive and in Western Civilization (what is left of it), the progressives have targeted the White Race. That will eventually be their undoing because the White Race had now realized they are in a race war and there will be a terrible and violent Counter Revolution that will reestablish Capitalism and Republicanism at least in the US. You can see the early stages of the Counter-revolution almost the same as those preliminary stages that the people went through prior to the Civil War.
Despite all our technology, things still take the same amount of time to change. The current financial system will collapses when all the banks no longer have any money to hide their tremendous losses on commodities. With commodities across the board down 50% or more and the hedges on most of those losses expiring soon, there is not much time left.
Things should get very hot. Those who gamed the system, those who are cronies or leaders of the Progressive National Socialists will pay a terrible price for their stupidity.
Don't look now but it has already gotten much worse, when BClinton turned the government over the the Banksters who threw the world into a depression and millions of US citizens out of their jobs and homes, when under Bush II was elsablished a precidence for unprovoked war, killing millions, costing trillions, when prez O rubberstamped the above and continued on the same path in the Middle East and reestablished US's will to overthrow legitimate governments through any means possible and then turn said countries over the murderous Suni jihadists (Libya / Syria) or NAZIs (Ukraine), all the while implementing anti-citizen, anti-liberty, anti-labor, murderously racist and anti-female agendas in the US.
This sort of definition of limp-wristed 'Fascism' is also completely ignorant twisted bullshit.
Fascism is nothing more (OR LESS), than a core political philosophy that avidly believes that force and lethal violence should be used preferentially, and early, to achieve the aims of state policies and objectives. It is the deliberate exercise of brute murderous methods and other hard and bloody violence by a State's military, security services or police, to achieve the leadership's plans and objectives.
It is nothing more OR LESS than that, and it never will be you dopey morons.
The former yuppies who are now trying to assert 'Fascism' has some other less distinct or hard definition or 'meaning', or that it's now all things to all people, or that we're "all fascists now", is an ignorant dope, a drone talking complete rubbish about something they've not even begun to comprehend.
If these terminally confused people ever encounter actual State Fascism, they won't be confused at all about what Fascism really is, but they probably won't live through it either.
I don't really disagree with your novel definition of fascism but it is more than that. Eg: some say fascism doesn't actually have a philosophy at all. It simply decides what it wants to do economically or socially and imposes it by force if necessary. Dissent not allowed.
You may wish to consider how it differs from other forms of totalitarian.gov like communism, Marxism, Pol Potism, Maoism, Saudi Wahhabism and some factions of Islam (eg ISIS). All of these - and others - use/have used gruesome punishments, violence, torture and death to impose compliance with the ruling elites' policies. Psychopaths are plentiful in the higher ranks.
It is exactly because of the close similarities in their tactics that I have always said that putting fascism on the Far Right of the political spectrum as Western MSM, political elites and education establishments have done for decades is completely wrong.
Almost without exception, one of these -isms is where angry and frustrated socialists and other assorted meddlers go when they see socialism failing. The old adage "we need more socialism" is their battle cry, in the false belief that by increasing the mistakes that socialism makes will somehow improve matters.
No smacker, it is not a 'novel' definition for christ's sake. It's the general understanding and experience of what Fascism is based on its reality, before, during and after WWII. How you came to the view that saying what it really is, is 'novel'? Beats the hell out of me! And no, it isn't 'more' than that. The alleged 'more' that you put, was not a scrap different to what I'd already iterated!
I've noticed the growing tendency of the usual suspects in politics and media to try and redefine and misuse the term as a denigration within personal attacks and dismissals, to conflate it into some fairly common behavior or view, and then pretend its all over the place.
I'm not interested in discussing other political convergences, just sticking to what it is, when idiots and befuddlers start using that word routinely, and entirely falsely, and don't even know what it means, and avoid what it really means. Then they set about re-writing history about what it is and does, pretending its something else entirely, and conflating mere strongly put opinions within the typical political blah-blahs, with 'Fascism'.
Which it sure isn't. If it were actual Fascism there would be a lot more smelly corpses and govt's running mass-grave initiates as forced work programs, all over the 'developed' world. Same place where most of these idiots who claim Fascism is on the rise everywhere, still live and go to their little coffee and WIFI shoppes, and tweet vapid ignorant one liners about a figment they pulled out of the recess of their cerebral arse-cheeks.
All of us know nothings are so deeply indebted to such a political genius as you.
You're welcome.
In our case, the smelly corpose are overseas, mainly in the middle east, in their millions, not counting the hundreds or thousands of African Americans murdered peichmeal, day by day, for no good reason. Don't forget the many hundreds of citizens forced into prison tp perform near-slave labor for long sentences for commiting victimles crimes.
Do not try to justify these horrors by saying it is not extreme enough to be called out. Or say that since it doesn't fit your narrow definition it isn't a real fascist manifestation.
Ah, but I didn't say any of that, you just did.
All I did was strictly clarified the true definition, and you went on a little ideological ejaculation and insinuated I said all sorts of things and drew conclusions that I didn't. You did all that. And wish to pretend your pet peeves equate to pseudo-'fascism', so you can beat your chest and call people 'fascists'.
Basic honesty about what it what is, is a prerequisite of public discourse about such issues, and if you can't manage that, you should not be piping up with accusations, or twisting others words to suit your agenda or biasing.
Asshat.
The reason I called your description "novel" was because of your somewhat simplistic view of what fascism is. You wrote:
"Fascism is nothing more (OR LESS), than a core political philosophy that avidly believes that force and lethal violence should be used preferentially, and early, to achieve the aims of state policies and objectives. It is the deliberate exercise of brute murderous methods and other hard and bloody violence by a State's military, security services or police, to achieve the leadership's plans and objectives."
You openly state that fascism's first action is to apply brutal force to achieve its objectives. I do not agree. I pointed out that other "isms" use/have used similar force in history (including all those I listed earlier). In all cases, they resort to force (ie: jackboots) only when people fail to comply. Not quite the same thing. Perhaps it varies depending on how fascist a government actually is. IE: the more fascist it is, the quicker it resorts to force. In the West today, we are experiencing fascism incrementally, so that makes your simplistic description misguided.
As said, my other point was to draw parallels with other "isms" who also use brute force.
Which is where you "openly state" your complete lack of understanding of the entire topic.
Fascism had an origin, and its origin was the Italian political party called the Fascisti, and their central political philosophy was that political policy should be imposed by brute violence over objections, and not by other means.
You're pitiful asserted opinion of what Fascism is, is another dismal example of the very sort of hopelessly ignorant drool about the topic. You don't like that that's what it really is, but regardless of your idiotic opinions, that is in fact exactly what Fascism is and what it came from and the core principle that it is organized around and motivated by.
So why would I "openly state" it to be anything other than what the known facts indicate? huh?
You don't even know what it is and then you want to immediately mix it up with all your other political mish-mash, and conflate it to be the same thing.
Except it isn't the same thing. Fascism is a specific POLITICAL PHILOSOPHY that sees VIOLENCE as the PRIMARY political tool and Fascist politics is about State POLICY being imposed on all and the elimination of all objections or counter-views, by whatever level of violence will be most EFFICIENT in achieving State policy quickly.
There is no need to discuss other isms at all, as that ALREADY INCLUDES EVERYTHING POLITICAL, which is why there is not "more to Fascism", as that already has it covered, in its true and full real-world meaning and actual definition.
You can bloviate to re-write history all you want, but we were warned by political writers and social commentators like Orwell, in 1948, right after it happened, that there would be people like you, after about 1983.
LOL
I thought the Christmas break may have given you time to locate your brain cell Elements and stitch them together. Obviously it didn't.
Your characterisation: "[...] Fascisti, and their central political philosophy was that political policy should be imposed by brute violence over objections" is a clear admission that I was right and you are wrong.
I repeat: fascists don't generally use violence as a first tactic, it's used after they meet opposition. The time between the two will vary.
So sorry you can't grasp that.
{shrug}
This is what I originally said:
And this is how you replied:
Now what the fuck don't you understand by my saying:
And my even more explicitly saying:
Do I have to define the meaning of the words "... EVERYTHING POLITICAL ..." for you too, stupido?
The average 10 year old could work out in seconds that your supposed subtle 'difference' and assertion of there being "more" to it, is no difference, and no more - whatsoever!
You seem to have a cognitive snafu or chemically-induced brain atrophy there Poncho.
Next time, have a bloody point! Is that too much to ask? Don't just pretend to have a point, actually make one, and don't just keep repeating (three times!) what I've already made perfectly clear - the first time!
Eeediot!
I do so enjoy the finely coiffed, perfumed & painted Mouthpieces of The State tossing around the word fascism as if they and they alone define truth or lie in the continuing propaganda wars.
Ahhh but they do, visually, monetarily & intellectually, they are the embodiment of it.
They do like to play what they do down, don't they. I've noticed that every time I make a point of clearing up the simple reality of what Fascism is, the various governments that have actually been using the fascist approach to State policy start sending out their officials to State and commercial news media, to soften the reality of what they've been up to, and saying they must not and never will do that.
It's a bit inconvenient to have the real meanings of certain words clarified, when you've tried so hard to double-think it into being something unrecognizable from its source.
I still say we takeoff and nuke the entire bullshit from orbit ... it's the only way to be sure.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aCbfMkh940Q
Enjoy 2016 mate.
In reply to Element: Exactly, the author of this piece is a Washington Empire fascist propagandist selling fascism as being normal progression and we are lucky that it isn’t worse. Ha. Ha. Ha. Oh, the subtleties of brainwashing! Ha. Ha. Ha.
Benito Mussolini, the author of the “Fascist Manifesto”, best described fascism as “the merger of corporate monopoly with government”.
What Americans are dealing with is totalitarian Washington Empire (New World Order) fascist.
Of course, Washington Empire fascist and their NATO arm want to destroy American sovereignty, independence, Constitution, Democracy, Bill of Rights, Rule of Law and Free Enterprise Capitalism. Fascist are out to destroy the USA, what could be worse than that?
Yes, he said that (claimed that was all it was), but he was saying that in a political context, of where he was promoting Fascism in the global media, and to the European working class, many being survivors (heroes?) of brutal trench warfare, with many wounded, many families deeply impoverished, and within the context of communist infiltration thatw as seeking to exploit that poverty, and plant the idea that the economic corporate entity and State was the evil that harmed them.
So Mussolini was using that moderate sounding definition as a PR tool to paint fascism as merely a super-charging efficient means to mobilize the economy quickly, to provide prosperity and rekindle national morale, pride and security. Which it did ... until the bombs fell and the artillery shells steadily got closer.
Except it was a war time economy, in a State with imperial intent to kill all before it, that he was selling to them, to get State policy desires met (total control), and they were to be the co-opted murderers with no choice once co-opted.
Well saying that, plainly, would be poor PR, wouldn't it? So instead of recounting the actual core tenets of the Fascisti Party's political philosophy of unmitigated State violence, he shifted the focus well away, to government and corporate partnerships, to aide economic development. Which is good, right? Within an attempt to stem and politically undercut the growing communist revolutionary sentiments, in depression era broke-ass angry central Europe who wanted different leaders. People power was especially attractive after Sovereigns, so the communists focused on that, and the Fascists knew they had to harness the power of the people too, or be over-run by revolutionaries before the Fascists could take control all over Europe. Hence the giant Fascist State parades.
The context of it all was within a propaganda showdown against the communists, and to undercut the 'Allied' Anglo powers of WWI, simply to grow Fascist converts as quickly as possible.
So the systematic misrepresenting of the core violent nature of Fascism, via the typical use of such Stae and corporatist State optimistic 'people-power' propaganda, for and as the Fascist State's official voice, was absolutely critical to taking power in Europe.
Whatever works, they didn't care, they would say and do anything to get there, because once they were in full control, and backed by global allies adn wide sentimental support in other countries (remind you of anything today?) who was going to whine about the pup they were sold, later?
The Germans did the same thing, the Japanese Fascist 'Militarists' were more insular, and didn't have to do all that, the just harnessed the people by force and built Mitsubishi Zeros.
We know Hitler was already fully familiar with the philosophy of political violence, and was thinking the very same things, in depth, before 1923. He was already planning such violent means to defeat the povery and comunnism's rise in 1918 Russia, and setting in place the propaganda themes to use violence, and to take complete economic and policy control of the greatest killing machine he could muster, using corporate capacity to create it, build the war economy in peace time, and saddle the German minds and then bodies, for European conquest. One with an actual strategic State objective this time.
And linked to Italians and Japanese, who were doing the very same things. And they were keen to have another Axis-Power ally in the violence they were all planning to unleash, to reshape and re-structure the entire world. Crash or Crash through.
An the fact was such mere fascist PROPAGANDA, as opposed to the inner political violence philosophy (embodied by the German SS) was extremely successful and very popular, in Britain and the US as well, for the same economic and dissenfranchisement reasons, and as resistence to the same widespread communist sentiments (which remained present right into the early 1980s).
The Depression just made it much easier for the fascism PROPAGANDA to spread and plant the seed, and try to undercut future Anglo attempts to muster a unified population to militarily resist the war that was coming.
Fascism has an inner philosophy of state violence, and an historical global context, and pretending it means something else is a perverse attempt to re-write history and ignore the lessons as people abuse the word and muddy up its true meaning and purposes.
And also to not be able to accurately recognize it and guard against it, when it does actually seek to return to the political fore, through current global skinhead urban violence culture.
[And frankly, the more that idiotic western politicians pander to minorities and fake humanism ideology, to continue to push Islamist immigration in western countries, the sooner true Fascism will boil up as a political force for violence once more, as the economic malaise deepens and becomes more protracted. It took 21 years to fully ripen in Italy and Germany. The current phase of economic debt and monetary debasement now runs 7 years. If we're looking out for Fascism, we should be looking for the correct things.]
well argued;Trump for all his faults isn't a fascist nor the potentially most dangerous pres;Carson &the hatchet faced Fiorina are much more unbalanced;as for Jeb Bush;isn't 2 of that famly of saudi loving spivs enough to have had as white house residents?
Taxpayers are a facists best friend.
fascism is just another flavor of socialism. Hitler was a nationalist socialist.
Trump = made for Zero heads. Nothing of substance only personal attacks. I can get that on the internet.
Lol@ the downvotes. Unfortunately, ZH comments have now been inundated with a bunch of uneducated white males that have a false hope that Teh Donald is going to stand up to China, or Congress, let alone Wall Street.
His plans on expelling all the illegals would be near impossible because of the revenue and cheap labor that illegals generate for this country.
That and he's in Israel's back pocket.
His tax plan also benefits only the wealthiest and massively expands the debt.
You have to be some kind of unrealistic hopeful ignorant or just plain red blooded stupid to get behind this shill.
I understand why his supporters think he's the second coming, because they identify with the way he's trying to make their racism, sexism and xenophobia socially acceptable again. And that kids, ain't a damn thing to be proud of, believe me.
I'll bet my father's beer-can collection Militillary has to drop out, account health issues.
All that I know is that without the huge federal facist juggernaut know as the Federal Government which controls the fatherland or homeland [terms which I consider obscene and totally disgusting] and without a Federal Income tax, I and my community would be SO MUCH better off...and I will continue to NOT vote for any incumbent so that perhaps someday THEY will get the message...
Mass immigration threatens the very existence of the white race, but the jews media says that anyone who opposes it is a Nazi. I don't see why closing the borders and deporting retarded monkeys back to the third world requires gassing millions of Jews, but if it does, it's a price worth paying!
Doesn't matter who gets elected. They can't do anything about anything. Until we stop the puppetmasters no progress will be made.
Here you go.
"The ideal candidate, courtesy of ZH a few months back":
Hah! Missed that one. +1
Exactly, that would be K street . . . .
What campaign isn't? How about Rand Paul's.
Trump for all his faults isn't a fascist nor the potentially most dangerous pres;Carson &the hatchet faced Fiorina are much more unbalanced;as for Jeb Bush;isn't 2 of that family of saudi loving spivs enough to have had as white house residents?
"Basically, pundits use “fascism” to describe anything or anyone who goes against their ideology."
So the pundits are fascist.
"The American public looks with reverence to the Oval office."
Nyet, the American public looks with disdain, and contempt, to the Oral office where an unethical former president got their Johnson sucked off by Monica Lewinski in a red dress. And after the cocksucking incident the American people ushered in George W. Bush so that his cohort of CFR fascists could implode WTC #1, #2, AND BUILDING #7 killing 3000 Americans in a controlled demolition so that they would have a FALSE FLAG event to murder millions in Iraq with impunity,
M O T H E R F U C K E R .
You cant complain if you didnt vote! You voted for the incumbant dumass. You will vote for the winner when you dont! Most here protested and voted for Obama indrectly!
Soon we will have to use the term, "Trumpism" !