Turkey's Erdogan Praises "Hitler's Germany" As Example Of Effective Government
Back in August, Nationalist opposition leader Devlet Bahceli took to Twitter to call Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan a “locally produced Hitler, Stalin or Qaddafi”:
Yönetim sistemi bir ki?inin eline kald?ysa vay halimize! Bizim yerli üretim Hitler’e, Stalin’e, Kaddafi’ye tahammülümüz olmaz, bu iyi biline
— Devlet Bahçeli (@dbdevletbahceli) August 15, 2015
That comment came as Erdogan was busy undermining the coalition building process on the way to calling for new elections. "Accept it or not, Turkey’s governmental system has become one of an executive presidency," Erdogan said, the day before the tweet shown above was published. "What should be done now is to finalize the legal framework of this de facto situation with a new constitution,” Erdogan continued.
For anyone in need of a refresher, Erdogan’s plans to make Turkey an executive presidency were derailed in June when the pro-Kurdish HDP put on a better show at the ballot box than expected, robbing AKP of its absolute majority in parliament.
The President effectively nullified the election results by calling for a November redo ballot.
"He’s now saying 'I won’t listen to the laws or constitution.' This is a very dangerous period," warned Kemal Kilicdaroglu, leader of the Main Republican People’s Party. "He wants to give a legal foundation to this coup he’s carried out. Those who carry out coups always do this: First they carry out the coup, then they give it a legal foundation.’"
Fast forward four months and we’ve seen Erdogan shoot down a Russian warplane and intensify a crackdown on the Kurds which many thought would dissipate once AKP reinstated its iron grip on politics in November.
Now, as Erdogan pushes to officially transform the Turkish presidency from a figurehead role (obviously Erdogan is anything but a figurehead, but this is about enshrining powers he shouldn’t have into law) into a chief executive position, the President is appealing to history. As it turns out, the opposition aren’t the only ones who compare the strongman to Hitler.
"There are already examples in the world. You can see it when you look at Hitler's Germany,” Erdogan said on Thursday, when asked whether it was possible to maintain the unitary structure of the state under an executive presidential system. "There are later examples in various other countries," he added, in an apparent effort to soften the blow.
AKP agreed this week to work with CHP on a new constitution. As Reuters notes, “Opposition parties agree on the need to change the constitution, drawn up after a 1980 coup and still bearing the stamp of its military authors, but do not back the presidential system envisaged by Erdogan, fearing it will consolidate too much power in the hands of an authoritarian leader.”
Of course PM and yes man par excellence Ahmet Davutoglu is on board. "What is right for Turkey is to adopt the presidential system in line with the [democratic] spirit," he says. "This system will not evolve into dictatorship but if we do not have this spirit, even the parliamentary system can turn into this [dictatorship]." Who knows what that means other than that Erdogan won't get any argument out of Davutoglu.
"[Erdogan] wants a presidential system in Turkey. He did not change his mind after the last election. I think he will force that, somehow. And I think this is the last exit before the full dictatorship for Turkey," Ceyda Karan, an opposition journalist at Cumhuriyet newspaper, told RT. "We’re dealing with the situation here that is close to a kind of civil war, and that is really dangerous – it is dangerous for Turkey domestically, and it is also dangerous for the international scene where Turkey, the US, Russia, Syria – all these countries, the Kurds are all involved in the struggle against ISIS in Syria and in Iraq.”
Yes, yes they are - and maybe that’s part of the reason why Erdogan despises them more now than ever.
If it's Hitler's Germany that Erdogan plans to model Turkey after once he manages to rewrite the constitution, we shudder to think what that will mean for the Kurds who are already being persecuted in places like Diyarbakir, Cizre, Silopi and Nusaybin.
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Gengis kahn I agrree Russia won the war period. Winston Churchill being overated just an opinon.. Facts speak for themselves
Churchhill did as told, fulfilled role destroy Germony
Churchhill was a war criminal
Soviet USSR, not Russia
All three sit photo at Yalta were war criminals
Germony Europes and Russians were victims
war criminal in more ways than one.....
"We insisted on reserving the right to bomb niggers." So David Lloyd George explained the British government's demand at the 1932 World Disarmament Conference to keep the right to bomb for "police purposes in outlying places". Airpower had shown its value in spreading what Winston Churchill, when defending in 1919 the use of poison gas against "uncivilised tribes", had called "a lively terror".
http://www.theguardian.com/books/2011/dec/07/britains-empire-richard-got...
This sort of reminds me of 1898 and the 21st Lancers' young Lieutenant Winston Churchill, on horseback, confronting North African Arabs running toward him with their only defense, swords, and shooting them in the face: “ I rode up to the individuals firing my pistol in their faces and killing several – three for certain – two doubtful – one very doubtful.”
Winston Churchill wanted war; Hitler wanted to end the war in 1940. Churchill had been trying to get Parliament to go to war after Chamberlain’s failure to do so.
Churchill wanted to smash Germany; Churchill had hated Germany ever since the naval maritime industry race was putting Germany in the dominant position involving not only European land trade but international sea route trade. When Churchill headed the Royal Navy, his primary object was to keep Britain in control of the sea and Germany reduced to a minor position.
For example, in his notes Lloyd George wrote that the war will make Churchill happy if we can attack the Germans; at every cabinet meeting Churchill was trying to get members to go to war. He would have attacked Germany first, before Austria, if he had been allowed. He was a fraud.
After nearly 60 million dead, Churchill was right when he called it “The Unnecessary War.” And the world will never be the same.
Pat Buchanan wrote recently in Did Hitler Want War?:
On Sept. 1, 1939, 70 years ago, the German Army crossed the Polish frontier. On Sept. 3, Britain declared war.
Six years later, 50 million Christians and Jews [my reference shows nearly 60 million] had perished. Britain was broken and bankrupt, Germany a smoldering ruin. Europe had served as the site of the most murderous combat known to man, and civilians had suffered worse horrors than the soldiers.
By May 1945, Red Army hordes occupied all the great capitals of Central Europe: Vienna, Prague, Budapest, Berlin. A hundred million Christians were under the heel of the most barbarous tyranny in history: the Bolshevik regime of the greatest terrorist of them all, Joseph Stalin.
What cause could justify such sacrifices?
The German-Polish war had come out of a quarrel over a town the size of Ocean City, Md., in summer. Danzig, 95 percent German, had been severed from Germany at Versailles in violation of Woodrow Wilson’s principle of self-determination. Even British leaders thought Danzig should be returned.
Why did Warsaw not negotiate with Berlin, which was hinting at an offer of compensatory territory in Slovakia? Because the Poles had a war guarantee from Britain that, should Germany attack, Britain and her empire would come to Poland’s rescue…
… if Hitler was out to conquer the world — Britain, Africa, the Middle East, the United States, Canada, South America, India, Asia, Australia — why did he spend three years building that hugely expensive Siegfried Line to protect Germany from France? Why did he start the war with no surface fleet, no troop transports and only 29 oceangoing submarines? How do you conquer the world with a navy that can’t get out of the Baltic Sea?
If Hitler wanted the world, why did he not build strategic bombers, instead of two-engine Dorniers and Heinkels that could not even reach Britain from Germany?
Why did he offer the British peace, twice, after Poland fell, and again after France fell?
Why, when Paris fell, did Hitler not demand the French fleet, as the Allies demanded and got the Kaiser’s fleet? Why did he not demand bases in French-controlled Syria to attack Suez? Why did he beg Benito Mussolini not to attack Greece?
Because Hitler wanted to end the war in 1940, almost two years before the trains began to roll to the camps…
http://buchanan.org/blog/did-hitler-want-war-2068
With all the factors in WW2, to claim that having to delay a couple of weeks because the Greeks fought off the first Italian attempt at invasion is a joke. Also, Greek folded like a soggy bag of shit before the German wehrmacht. And today? Greece is a 3rd world nigger infested shit hole that even Turkish tourists don't want to visit.
I seriously cannot tell the difference between modern greeks and turks.
The modern greeks are about as old world Greek as I am a kosher butcher.
Long before WW2 the Greeks were occupied for 400 years by the Turks and the Turks fucked all the women and destroyed the gene pool for all time. Same thing that is happening in Western and Northern Europe today. There are still some "white" Greeks left, but most of them have left Greece and come to other white nations to find work among their own kind. The subhumans definitely have a stranglehold on Greece and you see the results in their economy, society, cleanliness, civil responsibility, etc.
look in the history books old man? Plus today Greece is worse then Detriot no shit! Folded NO the GREEKS FOLDED TODAY!!! Today the Greeks are a bunch of pussies!!
http://newobserveronline.com/jews-no-limit-on-invasion-except-in-israel/
Back in the day some of the elders used to say stuff about the holocaust and how many countries prevented jews from fleeing europe and how totally open borders and "tolerance" were the best. I was young at the time and totally bought their reasoning. Later on i realized they were full of shit but still dont know if those open border jews are cognizant of their stupidity.
I think they basically are short sighted, lack principles and embrace whatever works for them on any given day. They are also energetic and unlike others they tend to act on their beliefs.
For two generations in a row Jews have been raised with two principles drilled into their brains: Love Israel and make the world a better place (for us).
I want a perfect world. One without (you) jews.
You have low standards if thats all it takes.
One could reasonably conclude certain Jews are out to (1) destroy Christianity as well as the sovereignty of other nations in order to (2) usher in and pave the way for a one world government and a one world financial system they own and control.
Erdogan now talks like a true megalomaniac psychopath.
It isn't good to be a turkey citizens right now..
Isn't it strange how countries that are majority Muslim have a fascist government?
Bloody hell. That looks so close. I will expect a lot of this type of pictures from williambanzia7.
I don't know how the fuck the rest of the world views this shit.
The US openly supports dictators who tow the US "line".
Except when they don't, then the US demands a "free" election (democracy in action!).
If the elected official doesn't "tow the (US) line" the US demands a "regime" change.
Actually, it's "toe the line". Think of a bunch of soldiers lining up.
this was always US foreign policy;only difference being that 30yrs ago Sultanazi Turdogan would have been "retired" by now by the CIA/special forces
Is every man with dark hair that parts his hair on the right now Hitler?
Note that it is a RIGHT side part. Most men part their hair on the left. Hitler, Al Gore, and numerous presidents part their hair on the RIGHT. Does it mean anything? Not sure. I switched from a right part to a left part after looking into this a bit.
http://www.truemirror.com/theory01.asp
It's pretty much "crazy shit" but at least it has a run down of notable figures with right vs. left parts.
Neo-nazi's in ukraine & a sultanazi in Turkey;well done Obama & Co along with Daesh/isis,Saudi & Israel you have a wonderful collection of scummy shitbags as your allies.
so now they are bragging about their zionazi credentials? turkey makes a good fit with israel in light of erdogan's support for their mutual spiritual leader.
Let's get back to the fucking point of the fucking article:
"Back in August, Nationalist opposition leader Devlet Bahceli took to Twitter to call Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan a “locally produced Hitler, Stalin or Qaddafi.”
It's not just Erdogan's startling facial resemblance with A. Hitler.
it is their unusually similar background, time in prison, their parallel global financial crisis, their vision for their nation, their anti-semitism and anti-communism, their rise to power, their focal scourge (Jews vs. Kurds), their role in a global war and how they die that is important to watch.
Otherwise, carry on with your fucking stupid comments.
Let's hope that this time, someone has the balls to kill the fucker before he gets out of control.
No. Let him suffer through not achieving what he wants. Start with kicking Turkey out of NATO.
I look forward to the day when Turkey is Eradicated off the face of the Earth...
Coincidentally, they've both genocided about the same number of J-baggers.
That should make about half the commenters in here into instant Erdogan fans.
Hey they could put a statue up in Berlin now and pretend it is Erdogan, but in reality it can also be called Hitler so the EU can now welcome Turkey into the club.
Yet it would invite Turkey into the club and all its actions etc. but it will not invite Russia why not? Look to Washington for the answer on that one, mind you Russia is looking east and not too peturbed.
Hey Mr Israel, how do you feel about the next Adolf on your doorstep and I wonder if he will be anything like the last one ...
The concept and imagination that appears on every article with Erdogan in just astounds me that you just don't think it can get any more ridiculous than it is.
All this from the US's bestest buddy and NATO member in the region, it just might even push the Saudi friendship into second place.
it's good propaganda, even though that's not what erdogan said.
The likeness between those two in the pictures is so striking that I expected someone to come along and say they had been edited.
Hungary had an impressive civilization that lasted over a thousand years. They did it without concentrating political power into a pyramid’s point. With their form of government, it would be impossible for a single group, or single man to maneuver to power and then run the country off a cliff.
Below is an excerpt:
http://www.jrbooksonline.com/HTML-docs/Trianon_ch3.htm
Politically Hungary was a constitutional kingdom for more than one thousand years. Her constitution is only seven years younger than the English Magna Charta. In the year 1000, A.D., Pope Sylvester II presented Stephen, the ruler of Hungary, with a crown and conferred on him the title of "Apostolic King of Hungary," in recognition of the religious, moral, economic, and political value of the Hungarians in Europe and the signal service they had already rendered to religion, culture and general welfare not only in Hungary but elsewhere in Europe. King Stephen has since been canonized by the Roman Catholic Church and he is known in history as "King Saint Stephen."
Unfriendly writers frequently refer to post-war Hungary as a "kingdom without a king," since she has no king at the present time. It will not be amiss, therefore, to state here that pre-war Hungary was a constitutional kingdom during the last one thousand years. Under their constitution, the Hungarians have a right to elect their king, if they want one, and that right had been exercised by the Hungarians until the Austrian Hapsburg dynasty took control of Hungary. At the present time the Hungarians do not want a king but have elected Admiral Nicholas Horthy Governor of Hungary, who, although of the Presbyterian faith, is well loved and idolized by all the Hungarians, Catholics and Protestants alike. His duties are defined and circumscribed by law and, therefore, he is not a dictator, as some hare-brained writers would have you believe.
The form of government of Hungary is a representative democracy. The real ruler of that country is the Parliament which is composed of two Houses, the House of Representatives and the Upper House, resembling the United States Senate. The members of the House of Representatives are elected directly by the people; while the members of the Upper House are appointed by the Governor (elected King) from among the best and most desirable representatives of the various trades and professions extant in the country. Thus the farmers, for example, have a real farmer of their own kind, the factory workers, the various tradesmen, industrial and commercial groups, the religious groups, and the various professions, each group has its own representative in the Upper House.
The government proper is the Ministry, headed by the Prime Minister. The Ministers, whose functions and duties correspond with those of the members of the Cabinet of the President of the United States of America, are appointed by the Governor with the advice and consent of the Parliament and from the membership of the Parliament. No person is appointed and can hold office as a Minister, unless Parliament sustains him by a majority of votes. If, at any time, the majority of the members of Parliament vote "lack of confidence" in the Ministry, the Ministers must resign and the Governor must appoint new Ministers, in whom the majority of the members of Parliament have confidence. If the majority of the members of Parliament are unable to agree upon the personnel of the Ministry, Parliament is dissolved and a new election held. It would be impossible in Hungary that a government would rule, which does not enjoy the confidence of the majority of the voters of the country. Under this system, the government of the country stands close to the people and it is bound to carry out the wishes and desires of the majority of the voters.
It is evident, therefore, that under this system of government, it would be impossible for any one single group in Hungary to set up an absolute dictatorship. The only way any person could become a dictator in Hungary would be if the voters, by a majority of votes, would elect him a dictator. A person or group of men, who rule by the will of the people, is in no way a dictator.
In the U.S., the Senate was intended to represent States.
Up until the 17'th amendment, Senators were sent by State legilatures. The founding fathers never intended for Senators to be popularly elected.
State legislators prior to 17'th would send their "lions" to Washington, to thus look out for State's interests. This was an important element in maintaining power balance in a Federal Republic.
Popularly elected house of representatives, was to be the "people's voice, similar to the lower house in Hungary's system.
The money powers knew full well that they could sway a population using bribery. This is why in 1910 they ran their full attack at the U.S., culminating in the election of Woodrow Wilson.
The progressive machinery installed at that time, destroyed representative democracy by unbalancing forces.
Namely, private credit money power was installed via Federal Reserve and attendant IRS.
The 16'th ammendment was put into place to provide back up to the money system, by taxing people directly -remember TARP?
17'th ammendment is easily the post pernicious of all, as it removed States as a Bulwark. States no longer send their Senator, nor do they recall them when displeased.
Growth in Washington to Leviathan, can be directly traced to this period of time.
There is no question that our money powered friends, primarily of Jewish extraction, ran this game against the U.S. and undid one of the greatest of political creations.
Their objective was to insert themselves as a financial parasite, and by controlling both the money power and election process, they control the lifeblood and brain of society.
Until these ammendments are undone, and with money power returned to legal status, the shit show will continue.
www.sovereignmoney.eu
17'th ammendment is easily the post pernicious of all, as it removed States as a Bulwark.
Well done! Powerful summary, MEFOBILLS. Powerful website you cite. Powerful quote from Sovereign Money:
"Once a nation parts with the control of its currency and credit, it matters not who makes the nation's laws. ... Until the control of the issue of currency and credit is restored to government and recognized as its most sacred responsibility, all talk of the sovereignty of parliament and of democracy is idle and futile."
Mackenzie King, Canadian Prime Minister 1935-1948.
When will we learn? MEFOBILLS; when will we learn? Thankfully, the point is the bankers are not going to be able to hold it; they've collapsed the system, i.e., themselves.
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Careful around him you guys,he's got a moustache.
This guy is a mad man. He wants to restore the Ottoman Empire with himself as sultan. No European country will come to his help if he goes into conflict with Russia. Art. 5 will be dropped fast.
Looks like this guy is losing his sanity
rabid erDOGan