Spot The Difference: Salafist Edition
Earlier today, we highlighted comments from the Ayatollah who spoke out yesterday against the execution of prominent Shiite cleric Nimr al-Nimr.
The Sheikh was killed by the Saudis for his role in anti-government protests during the Arab Spring. His execution sent shockwaves across the Shiite world as protesters took to the streets from Bahrain to Pakistan in a dramatic outpouring of grief and anger.
On Saturday evening, protests in Tehran turned violent as Iranians firebombed and ransacked the Saudi embassy while police struggled to contain crowds near the consulate in Mashhad where the outcry continued on Sunday. Here’s an excerpt from a statement posted to the Ayatollah’s webpage:
"Strongly criticizing the silence of the self-proclaimed advocates of freedom, democracy and human rights, and their support for the Saudi regime, who spills the blood of the innocent only for criticism and protest, Ayatollah Khamenei said: “The Muslim world and the entire world must feel responsible towards this issue. Those who honestly care for the future of humanity and the fate of human rights and justice must pursue these issues and should not remain indifferent vis-à-vis this situation.”
This has become a familiar refrain of late. In short, it’s becoming difficult for the Western world to obscure the fact that the poisonous ideology espoused by the Saudis is virtually identical to that promoted and promulgated by ISIS, al-Qaeda, and many other Sunni extremist groups that the world at large generally identifies with terrorism.
As Kamel Daoud, a columnist for Quotidien d’Oran, and the author of “The Meursault Investigation” put it in an op-ed for The New York Times, Saudi Arabia is simply “an ISIS that made it.” On that note, we present a passage from Daoud’s article followed by an image posted by the Ayatollah on Saturday.
Black Daesh, white Daesh. The former slits throats, kills, stones, cuts off hands, destroys humanity’s common heritage and despises archaeology, women and non-Muslims. The latter is better dressed and neater but does the same things. The Islamic State; Saudi Arabia. In its struggle against terrorism, the West wages war on one, but shakes hands with the other. This is a mechanism of denial, and denial has a price: preserving the famous strategic alliance with Saudi Arabia at the risk of forgetting that the kingdom also relies on an alliance with a religious clergy that produces, legitimizes, spreads, preaches and defends Wahhabism, the ultra-puritanical form of Islam that Daesh feeds on.
And for good measure:
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These people have been killing each other over whom they believe should have succeeded the caliph after Mohammed's immediate successor died for, what? the last 13 centuries? And when they haven't been doing that, they've been spreading their satanic parody of a religion to the rest of the world by sword and fire.
There is nothing new under the sun.
Tyler, it looks like feds are amassing in Oregon. Anyone have cable? If there is no mention of "right wing militia wackos taking over fed building" then there is a blackout and it is about to get real. Turns out there is natgas and uranium under Hammonds ranch and they are the last holdouts. Is Jim Willies' Scheiss Dollar to be backed by natgas? Has the uranium been promised to China for nukes? BLM has first right of refusal if there is an offer or Hammonds take a dirt nap. Bad things happen in prison. Has Emperor Obama ordered Hammonds ranch be destroyed? If this turns Waco it is game on.https://www.intellihub.com/breaking-fbi-en-route-oregon-federal-building...
http://thelastgreatstand.com/2016/01/03/breaking-news-obama-orders-hammo...
So ISIS comes in colors now? Is it like before "before Labor Day and after Labor Day" kind of thing? Can I get matching shoes and accessories like simitars and what not?
These Muslims are horrible. They scare Scooby and make me feel unsafe, Shaggy!
Poor Israel, they are so close to this danger. We must support them and keep them safe from this evil!
Poor man's 'color revolution' - comes in black or white.
*yawn*
The sky is falling you say?
Another poor rancher getting told that he can't use federal land to feed his cattle you say? Nothing to do with poaching and arson you are telling me? You mean the witness (the convicted rancher's family member) was lying on the stand when he identified the culprits and said that the forest fire they started on federal land was deliberately set to destroy evidence of a crime?
You are telling me that these guys need the help of armed outsiders -- despite there attorney of the convicted felons telling the media and the sheriff they are not wanting help from the militia and the Bundy's?
Let me grab my AR and plate carrier...
http://koin.com/2016/01/02/anti-govt-protesters-expected-in-burns-saturd...
The house of Saud exists because they cut a deal with London. It is beginning to appear that London no longer has need of them, so many news media reports there have been detailing their brutality (which is not new).
The coup-de-grace will come when the redacted 9/11 report is released detailing how the Saudis carried it out. Until then the west will support Saudi Arabia, right into WWWIII as they come to open blows with Iran.
If London has indeed figured out that they (a) no longer need the Saudis and its inbred royal spawn, and (b) figured out that their rabid Wahhabism causes too much damage and is an existential threat, then I'd say: "What took you so long?"
The Saudi royals need to go, Mecca and Medina need to be managed by the Jordanians, and the Jihadists need to be rounded up and exterminated like the varmint that they are. And we simply 'secure' (take over) their oil fields and refineries.
p.s. If the Zionists and Likudniks thought it through, they'd realize that have more in common (in terms of mentality) with the Iranians than Saudis.
You are a filthy liar, counties like Syria, Iran have been far more peaceful that England and France, or America, over that same period.
Spin your racist lies somewhere else.
The cowards in America have killed (from a distance) far more people than Muslims have ever killed us, ever.
Of course, America is just a pawn, controlled by zionists who have taken over the government and the media.
Allah-ka-derka derka jihad Mohammad Allah! Pig-dog liar derka derka. Mohammad jihad Allah!
Muslims should not threaten America! or else!
America is a peaceful nation. If you threaten us or our freedom you will be droned.
Scooby singalong. Comeon gang!
My country tiz of thee sweetland of liberty
for thee I see
Land of thy shopping malls we have Niagra Falls
For amber waves of grain
Happy birthday to you!
bullshit. more muslim on muslim killings than by any other group this year [and last]...
fyi, iran-iraq have been at longterm war prior to direct US involvement.
The region has never been as stable as europe/us. Blame everyone you want, but the reality is out there.
Saudi-iran next up....turkey-kurdistan ongoing,...etc...
You clearly have no idea just how bloody the history of Islam is. It is fourteen centuries of mass killings of anyone they came in contact with, without pause. What they did to India alone (estimated 80 million killed in an 800-year campaign of ruthless slaughter) makes the bloodthirsty conquerors that have run the US for a century plus look like lightweights.
Don't worry they will never like America because they like 40 virgins each.
After a lifetime of searching, I've never found a virgin girl in America.
They will discover this and leave.
So what you are saying is that all those wars in Europe over the last 20 centuries were just fiction. Those 80 million that died in WW2 never happened. Or the millions in WW1. Or the 4 to 5 million the US killed or caused to be killed in Laos, Vietnam, and Cambodia. The US Civil War. The fact that the French only helped out the US during the Revolutionary War because they were at war with England at the time. Or the millions that died in Africa and the countries in Central and South America where the US installed and supported dictators who were allowed to rape their countries and kill millions of innocent civilians so US corporations would benefit. Millions of Muslims have died at the hands of the "good" Christian west for hundreds of years either through outright killing, such as the 1991 Gulf War or the 2011 destruction of Libya, invasion and occupation, Iraq 2003 to 2011 or Afghanistan 2001 to 2099, or crippling illegal sanctions, Iraq 1991 to 1997, or colonial occupation by the French and British. This is just the tip of the iceberg. Any religion or civilization can lower themselves to the barbaric level. Man just loves to kill man and the Muslims are not cornering the market. In the years since the US has been meddling in the ME, since at least 1945, it has killed or caused to killed far more people than the Muslims have in that time frame
The US killed 80 million in WW2 and millions in WW1?
Odd, and here I thought it was the Europeans and Japanese who did the vast majority of that killing, with the US coming way late to the party. You'd better alert the historians, they're convinced it went down a lot differently than that.
There is PLENTY of killing to blame the US for - why invent new things that are not true? Is it because you absolutely require those new, false assertions in order to maintain the pretense that Islam's history is not far, far bloodier and more cruel?
Oh dear......
Another white skinned liberal with a 'Celebrate Diversity" sticker on his back bumper that knows tee-tee about any culture other than his own.
It gives me a complete headache.
Are we, the west (or what is left of it) perfect?
Nope.
Does that make the rag heads boy scouts?
Nope also.
The ragheads are what they are but just to espouse on a few items:
1. Mohammod was a murderer. Muslims won't even argue the point, god told him to.....of course he did.
2. Mohammod was a con artist. This most ragheads would argue about this until you point out that other people and NOT Mohammod did the fighting while "spreading" Islam.
3. Mohammod was a pedofile. He married a 6 year old girl and deflowered her when she was 9. Muslims BRAG about this actually.
There are some juicy verses in the koran about how tasty young hairless boys are as well. Google is your friend.
Now, does this all this absolve the USA form ending the Japanese war with 2 atomic bombs?
No.
Does this absolve the North American Geniside over the red Indians.
No. (I do need to point out that the Iroquois WIPED OUT the Huron all by themselves, whitey was not involved so its not like the hoops were very nice to each other before whitey arrived)
Does this aboslve the Aussies geniside of the Aboes?
No.
But it still is, and that's the issue.
I've worked in the middle east. You'd be completely floored by how many of them are completely sick fucks.
Squid
True, but each family pumps out about 8 kids on average so there are plenty of them to go around...
Does it even matter when the Western established MIC and the media mouthpiece that regulates the message "spins" like this?
What makes that video so much fun is that someone from Langley got the bright idea to "spin" the idea that the voice of that "thing" mumbling with it's teeth kicked out and probably much worse after the taping ended, an American citizen was actually a Russian perpetrating these crimes instead!
Sorta like the "spin" we're getting from the President taking credit for the Russian successes in Syria since September 30, 2015...
Or the the "Onion" read that Seymour Hersh provided his New Yorker readership over a week ago that "a rogue element" that has all along been committing treason against the American people in that part of the World since this happened are NOW actually disobeying treasonous orders from the "White Chimp" in the oval office to commit other treason by coming up with there own plans to "help" the current Syrian government they've been destroying the last 4 years instead of refusing to deploy ANYWHERE the Commander-in-thief and an AWOL Congress tell them to go!
"White Hat" Jihadist..."Black Hat" Jihadist...
I'm with Sergey Lavrov...
There is no such think as a moderate "terrorist" and they are ALL owned, operated and funded by the guys that opened this school more than 40 years ago!
Kill the fuckers take the oil. There I fixed it.
If you mean by "the fuckers" you mean Israel, then maybe you have a point.
No I mean the Camel humping Saudi's.
Sure Saudis, they are just pawns, they don't set the rules. But when you make it about all Muslims, especially nations like Syria and Iran, you could not be further from the truth.
What's the flow rate of new immigrants to both? Excepting foreign interlopers that is...
Islam and killing. No surprise, right?
Ah, the hasbara filth is out tonight. Funny, who is it that killed tens of thousands in Iraq, was that not America?
Who do you think your fooling, America kills far more people around the globe, how many Vietnamese, how many Korans?
Oh and our arms sales, we love to sell weapons to the Africans, trade oil for weapons...
Yeah, how many Korans have we killed?
Can I buy a vowel?
The Muslims have been at it much longer than we have. Our problem is that we could finish the fight but we don't.
stfu hasbara troll, I note you don't state the information backing up your lie.
And as for how long who has been at what, There is only ONE nation that has dropped an atomic bomb on civilians human filth.
The truth is never a popularity contest, especially when one troll can have multiple accounts...that's their MO.
Big on zionist PR, small on facts.
Islam and killing. No surprise, right?
Israel and genocide in Palestine... And with the help of it's "first class shiksa paramour from North America" genoicde everywhere else???!!!
Fixed it!!!
No such place as Palestine. Like Iraq et al, just another made up concept. Besides, if everybody stayed out out everybody else's business, none of the foreign interlopers in the region would get any play...where's the fun in that?
Just how did Saudi Arabia get in charge of UN human rights? A better name would be absolute dictator rights.
I'm perplexed?... I thought Muhammad was an peaceful entity.
My next door neighbor? That's another level of evil!
Mr. Quasi Moto Swiss Bankster showed up again.
I think he knows I'm on to him. He was going to play Tennis, when I caught him "off guard".
His grey hair was dyed" jet black". He speaks perfect english BTW.
Let the Head Choppers Ball begin!
Forward (and down) Soviet Scimitars!
+1 on the sentiment.,...
ObamaTeam and TeamHillary has set the middle east on fire....
you are forgetting Bush and Netanyahu?
Hitler was right. It's all the fault of the JOOOOSSS. what was the question agian? oh right Death to America or is it Israel? What ever, the it is all the fault of the US, Israel or the jooooooos in general. No one else ever does anythng wrong. only US, Israel and the jooooos.
First of all, prick, it’s not the Jews, it’s the Zionists, I am sure a hasbara piece of shit knows the difference, right?
America had no enemies in the Middle east before Israel was “created”.
You got to LOVE GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOGLE:
http://notmytribe.com/2008/us-had-no-enemies-in-the-middle-east-before-israel-83741.html
https://www.indybay.org/newsitems/2002/08/18/1414281.php
https://www.wrmea.org/2005-september-october/special-report-the-blind-spot-in-criticism-of-u.s.-policy-toward-israel.html
It was not long ago, such information was kept out of the media by Zionist manipulation/ownership, not any more I am afraid.
A hasbara troll with a few accounts can really ruin a thread...
Sleep with the light on there is a jew under your bed!
Imagine what a troll with several accounts who accuses anyone who challenges his trolling with cries of "hasbara!!" could do.
Why, he could completely spoil the ZH comment section and drive away countless desirable participants by declaring everything a Zionist plot and being a fucking asshole to anyone who disagrees.
What a perfect way to shut down a vital information resource and discussion center like ZH for those who know the mainstream media is full of crap - turn it into a complete shitfest where all actual critical thinking is shouted down with buckets of nonsense.
Yes, we have noticed the flood of recently-signed-up accounts that shout "Zionist!" on every single thread, relevant or not.
No, we're not buying that it is an organic, natural occurence.
Much like the idea that an entire nation banded together in an effort to exterminate
SIX
MILLION
JEWS
was an organic, natural occurence?
No we're not buying on you either. It is not about religion. It is "Evil Deeds"! Sick of this stupidity!
1. Who started the 1st world war? Was it Muslims?
2. Who started the 2nd world war? Was it Muslims?
3. Who killed about 20 miliom of Aborigines in Australia? Was it Muslims?
4. Who sent the nuclear bombs to Hiroshima & Nagasaki? Was it Muslims?
5. Who killed more than 100 millions Indians in North America? Who killed more than 50 millions in South America? Was it Muslims?
6. Who took about 180 millions of African people as slaves whom 88% dided and were thrown in Atlantic Ocean? Was it Muslims?
Define your hate properly. Define your terrorism properly. Define your analytical mind like Science does, not as double standard. Then come to the point!
Science and History matter!
[Our Ancestors] were doing mathematics when your ancestors were redacted. Should you also return that? (N.N. Thaleb)
So there is nothing new under the same sun, and take yours F***ing Moronic Idea out of this world forever!
Number 6 mate, change it to 500 million and you'd be close....
and yes, its muslims. Its defined in the Koran, you should read it, its delightful.
Squid
"6. Who took about 180 millions of African people as slaves whom 88% dided and were thrown in Atlantic Ocean? Was it Muslims?"
Yes it was, actually. Why don't you actually learn some history? Then you might be a little bit less of a complete dumbass.
The term "hasbara" is being bandied about as if it is on par with the more nefarious practice of "taqiyya" which is not shy about its deceit.
But hey, love Syria, love Iran...they really don't mean anything by all that Great Satan/Little Satan extermination stuff. Really, nothing is more harmonius with Libertarian principles than beleiving what is said by cult members, especially the Persians who get all moist at triggering the apocalyspe so their utopia can commence with the arrival of their Mahdi. Yeah, let's encourage that shall we?
But whatever, the completely batshit insane are all in agreement on fostering the end of civilization, so just sit back and enjoy the show.
I am in contact with these people all the time! McInsane McCain in the Membrane
Or September 11, 2011 pilots? Filthy, filthy, filthy creatures are the Saudi royals. I'm not saying the Irani mullahs are any different. They haven't experienced the idea of a personal god that leads to the realization that god doesn't exist. We've (the west) armed the Saudi fundamentalists to the teeth and the Soviets armed Iranian fundmanetalists to the teeth, and we question why there is a conflict? Their prophet is right, his prophet is right, our prophet is right, and so let's fight it out and sobeit if a bunch of little girls are raped. Seriously? This is about one thing and one thing only: power. whose bullshit worldview and culture, if there is such a thing, wins out. Hopefullly this is the last outlash of two dying monkey tribes.