Montel Williams Calls For "Shoot To Kill" In Oregon Showdown; Militiamen Respond They Are "Ready To Fight"
In the latest development in the ongoing saga of Ammon Bundy's seizure of a Federal wildlife reuge office in Oregon, the members of the militia said they're ready to fight, but they won't say what they would actually do if federal authorities try to remove them by force as reported in the clip below.
However, while we noted the shortcomings in Bundy's latest standoff last night, what is even more notable is that as Shepard Ambellas of Intellihub points out, Montel Williams he tweeted that the National Guard should be mobilized to “kill” protesters who have currently overtaken the federal building in Burns, Oregon.
Then let's give them some - put this down using National Guard with shoot to kill orders. https://t.co/KSzUZzUor6
— Montel Williams (@Montel_Williams) January 3, 2016
Moreover USA Today has reported that “militia members used the ranchers as a ruse,” in what I and others feel may be the planed catalyst to start a civil war in America.
Monday, Rick Jervis wrote:
The Oregon sheriff whose county is at the heart of an anti-government call-to-arms said Sunday the group occupying a national wildlife refuge came to town under false pretenses.
Sheriff David Ward said protesters came to Harney County, in southeastern Oregon, “claiming to be part of militia groups supporting local ranchers.” In reality, he said, “these men had alternative motives to attempt to overthrow the county and federal government in hopes to spark a movement across the United States.”
In a statement issued Sunday afternoon, Ward said he was working with local and federal authorities to resolve the situation as quickly and peacefully as possible.
Intellihub adds that its staff has identified a few suspicious individuals who claim to stand with the militants which may attempt to provocateur, escalate, the situation further. As we noted last night, this also is a distinct possibility.
Finally, in an interesting tangent, the WaPo, which admits that there "are gun rights issues, religious overtones, broad strains of anti-government sentiment and even the tactics of the Occupy Wall Street movement" as underlying motives behind the seizure, focuses on "very particular question of how much land the government controls in the state -- the same question that animated the dispute with rancher Cliven Bundy in Nevada two years ago -- and that helped motivate Bundy's son Ammon to take a lead role in the Oregon standoff."
It then provides several charts, alongside the following analysis, to show this curious aspect of what may be the core motive behind Bundy's actions. To wit:
More than half of Oregon is owned by the federal government, with a large percentage of that land owned by the Bureau of Land Management -- an agency widely reviled in the West and known by its acronym, BLM. (Ammon Bundy was forced to clarify on Twitter that his use of "BLM" didn't refer to the Black Lives Matter movement.) Data from the U.S. Geological Survey shows the amount of federal land in the state.
(This map and the ones below only show areas of 600 or more acres held by the government.)
The takeover occurred near Malheur Lake, at a building that's part of the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge. That lake is at the upper center of the BLM's map of the surrounding area, which shows just how much is controlled by the government. (The original protests over the Hammonds' sentencing began in Burns, Ore.)
Part of the issue is that there isn't much population in the eastern part of the state. Mapping Oregon's population, you can see Portland and a corridor near the coast, which is about it. The area around the wildlife refuge has almost no population.
There's a historic link between population and federal land ownership. In 2012, the Congressional Research Service looked at the history of tensions between the government and the population out West -- particularly ranchers and farmers who, like the Hammonds and Bundys, use federal land for grazing and other purposes.
Early in the history of the country, the government took over land that was then distributed to citizens for farming and economic growth. As the United States expanded westward, the land was increasingly inhospitable, including the Rockies and the deserts of Nevada and Utah. By the end of the 19th century, a new focus was placed on conserving the land, with Yellowstone becoming the first national park in 1872. At that point, very few people lived in the area, as this 1890 Census Bureau map suggests.
Over the course of the 20th century, the government's emphasis shifted away from releasing the land to private citizens and toward managing it itself. The passage of 1976's Federal Land Policy and Management Act made that policy concrete, keeping the land as the property of the government. After the federal government's shift, there was a push from some in the West, including governors and members of Congress, to shift control from the federal to the state or local government. The Sagebrush Rebellion, as it was known, tapered off during the relative friendly administration of Ronald Reagan.
The longstanding political and legal dispute was summarized in more depth by the conservative Heritage Foundation, but the Congressional Research Service makes one additional point that's important to consider.
"From the earliest days," the CRS researchers write, "these policy views took on East/West overtones, with easterners more likely to view the lands as national public property, and westerners more likely to view the lands as necessary for local use and development."
That's one reason for the objection from Westerners. The other is that the lock-down on the land came after the East was heavily settled but before the West had been. In the East, land was turned over to farmers. In the West, settled later in the country's history, there were fewer people to hand it to.
Compare the Dakotas to Oregon, for example. In 1910, here's how the population was distributed. Even the Dakotas had pockets of population.
It's still sparsely populated.
But very little of the land is federal.
On that 1910 map, notice that Nevada has very little population -- thanks in part to its landscape being even less hospitable than the Dakotas. Its population is still small, save Reno and Las Vegas.
The vast majority of the land -- including the land around the Bundy ranch -- is owned by the government to this day.
The conclusion: "The fight isn't new, as the Congressional Research Service report notes. What's new is the way in which the broader political moment has cross-pollinated with longstanding objections to how the government manages land out West. The takeover in Oregon has its roots in the Sagebrush Rebellion. They way it's being manifested, though, is as modern as it gets."
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It remains to be seen if the National Guard will take up Montel on his "shoot to kill" advice.
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Thanks for having my back on that other thread yesterday when I told my story about my aunt and her grapefruit tree.
You're welcome. For a guy who was supposedly a farmer(?), his statist-worshipping view was more than annoying. He's the type I picture as always taking the side that the barrel of the gun points away from. Then when the gun points at him he realizes too late he was a tool the entire time. And then the hammer drops... :) (and I tried to keep it civil until the end)
Considering who all make the most use of those payday loans, Montel is screwing his own people.
In regards to the undeclared race war.......
Just for fun, go to any search engine, (Google, Bing, DuckDuckGo), and type in the following, and then select images:
Happy American Couple
Happy White American Couple
American Business Owner
I did not believe the results myself when I was first told about it.
THAT IS SO FUCKED UP!
Wow, race war declared! That is some truly messed up shit.
Who runs Google? When the big Google bus, all white and unmarked, picks up the hipster workers in SF to ride them down the peninsula to their Google jobs in Santa Clara County aka Silicon Valley, it, the bus, has no license plates. I saw that one morning and I asked the people around me why the bus has no license plates? The response was - In CIA America, the CIA bus don't need no stinkin' license plates.
"Where are all the white women at?"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=493pL_Vbtnc
Here: Google gives the correct links with "happy white women" +pictures (or stock pictures)
http://www.dreamstime.com/photos-images/happy-white-women.html
Hundred thousand plus images, mostly caucasian
Somewhere, a Google programmer is either smiling or ... Bad Code, Bad bad bad.
You imply it is a mistake. It is no mistake.
"happy white american business owner"=same result. Sick media psych pushing an agenda. F them.
Well...
That is rayciss!!!
(It actually is...)
Where is Anonymous when you need them...to take down Google?
This nonsense has got to stop.
I showed this to my husband and he suggested that American might be triggering African American to turn up in the search. White will not do that. Lots of people call Black AfricanAmerican.
Dear God! Does this work globally? And was pissed when my friends in Washington bought the same thing on Amazon and saved $2.28!
This would be quite disturbing if it weren't so laughable.
Miffed
Do it through Ixquick and click on Images tab...holy snikes!
No shit!!!
I am not laughing. This is absolute bullshit and Google needs to be dismantled.
I feel so socially engineered...
We are.
I plugged the exact same search in the ewetoobs the other day from 2 different computers.
2 different results.
AI is feeding us.
21st century book burnin'.
Pull up ancient alphabets...WWW
6th letter...666
:O
The ChateauHeartiste is doing work. Saw that bit yesterday. Up!
Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain!
Good God... We are living in Hell.. Let me off this damn ball.
HO SHE LIT!!!
Google is EEEEEEVIL
It's beyond Google if Ixquick and DuckDuckGo are doing it too. This has to be at a much higher level, unless...unless those sites we *thought* were not as bad as Google actually sold out, or were never what they said they were to begin with.
The fuckage, it's everywhere. Assume everything is tainted until proven otherwise; and even then, don't ever assume you are right.
As I understand it, Ixquick is actually a google/alphabet search. Ixquick/Startpage SSL interposes between google/alphabet and you to anonymize the search. I'm not sure what DDG does...
Wow, just wow...
You get the same thing here in the UK,
Assuming you are refering to the ethnicity.
That is mad
Maybe this is a "Famous French Victories" type of cheat?
Holy shit I'm sharing that at work.
That will go over like a lead balloon.
#WhiteLivesDon'tMatter
This shit needs to go on imgur. Maybe someone will see it.
This guy Williams displays a callous disregard for human life.
What is truly sad is he is not at all embarrassed of his view. He puts it in the public domain fully expecting many to agree with his sentiment. That is very revealing, not only of himself but also of his society.
No wonder USA is the most militaristic nation on Earth, when such attitudes and values are so widespread. It means nothing to take someone elses life.
Callous, immoral, dangerous, damning.
He's cynically upping his street cred with a segment of his audience which would love nothing more than seeing some crackers slaughtered.
Edited lewd unladylike message eroticizing white men.
Damn! We need all the eroticizing we can get these days.
Come'on, he's just "keepin it real"
WhiteLivesDon'tMatter.
IF it was Rush or Glenn Beck saying to send in the NatGuard with shoot to kill orders in Ferguson or B'more, what would the reaction from media and politicians have been>?
Jimmy the Greek had his career ruined for simply stating that at one point in America, black slaves (like all other livestock) had been selectively bred to produce better laborers.
The double standard. It has to end.
Never bring a knife to a race war.
You know lol, as absurd as that sounds.....
Dude, that sounds absurd to you? You must be a model "knockout" candidate if you can't figure out what's going on
We both talkin about Russians supplying arms to American militias?
Well since we've got a Clinton running, we obviously need another Janet 'BBQ' Reno to fix these minor problems........
I believe it's spelled "Janet Sterno".
I thought it was called the "Dorner Treatment" now.
Yo Montel, at least they're not looting and torching. What would you tell the National Guard in Ferguson?
"Guns up, don't shoot!" ???
/s
It doesn't even matter anymore, Montel, that fuck, or anyone else. Your comment was spot on, but the current machinations we are witnessing are by design, and the injustices which took place 400 years ago, and the legislative structure born out of culture and political events 200-300 years ago are now being used as the prima facie reason to strip individual rights and liberties of people. In this particular movement and subject, the targets are white men. Now, clearly there are other movements and government actions which target other races, but this one is as clear as day.
Please also, nobody reply about white folks rioting after their beloved hockey or baseball team wins a series. When they burn and break shit, it is done due to an actual emotional high, albeit totally stupid and juvenile. The same goes for black folks rioting in black neighborhoods if their local team wins etc. Race riots, on the other hand, are done out of anger, are intended to instill fear and uncertainty, and to disrupt social order.
To think, we have not even started crazy season with any of this as the fake economy has not totally imploded and can still be kept a lie with fake stats etc. Wait until the real pain starts, en masse.
Re-posting:
Montel
http://www.military.com/veteran-jobs/career-advice/military-transition/f...
Commissioned an ensign, he spent the next one and a half years in Guam as a cryptologic officer for naval intelligence, where he served at sea and ashore. In 1982 he was transferred to Defense Language Institute in Monterey, California, where he studied the Russian language for one year. In 1983 he was transferred to Ft. Meade in Maryland, where he worked with the National Security Agency. What Williams did there is vague, due to the sensitive nature of intelligence work, but he performed various intelligence missions. He was offshore aboard ship during the invasion of Grenada.
In additon to this Montel fiasco there is a man named John Ritzheimer who has interjected himself into the Oregon situation. I have been watching him for a while due to the suspicion that he was an agitating spook.
He is a former US Marine that has organized armed protests outside of mosques in the Phoenix area. He likes to post videos of shooting the Koran out in the desert and has also has encouraged "draw pictures of Mohammed" events. The FBI is supposedly "monitoring" him. There are a couple other AZ people out there by the names La Voy Finicum and Blaine Cooper. Ritzheimer said they went to Oregon in an camper or RV and got right in and nobody was much around.
Ritzheimer is supposed to be a pro-gun advocate and yet he hasn't had much to say about the innocent young redneck boy who is rotting in an AZ jail after being falsely accused of the freeway shooting that continue to happen (Just had another one). This kid was ruined when they showed videos of him shooting in the desert with his son. The kid nor his gun were available for all of the shootings so they changed a date. The whole thing is terrible. Anyway I could be wrong but I am not so sure about this guy. I would stay the hell away from this standoff scenario because it's starting to stink.
This is John Rizheimer. Here is an article that shows a pic of him and also has an ebedded video. http://www.phoenixnewtimes.com/news/anti-islam-activist-jon-ritzheimer-reported-to-fbi-7511119
Another mass shooting the kid is innocent it was obvious from the beginning he is being framed. http://www.abc15.com/news/region-phoenix-metro/north-phoenix/dps-single-shot-fired-at-vehicle-on-i-17
AZ ties to Oregon http://www.azcentral.com/story/news/local/arizona/2016/01/04/oregon-mili...
Great observation. Years ago I had an aquaintance who was AF Intel and most likely did (or may still) be doing a stint at NSA. He used to hang out at hippie type fairs and promoted energy efficiency. The bastard got ahold of some of my proprietary business (research) info and gave it to Enron. It put me out of business. I haven't forgotton about it either.
Yep, seems like the kind of thing the elites/Feds are terrified of happening, so they decided to 'practice' it by instigating it themselves.
See what the public reaction is, see who volunteers to join the militia, add it to their database and 're-run' the simulation... Yes, they use computer programs to predict behavior... "Silent Weapons for a Quiet War" any one?
That's terrible. I have seen a few things myself. None of it had anything to do with me but there are a couple of things I have seen that I will take to my grave. Just was in the right place at the right time (or is it wrong place and time) and recognized that things were off only to find out later on the front pages of the news that I was right.
Once your exposed to spooky activities it's easy to recognize the pattern. Scary stuff, I wasn't entirely comfortable making that post to be honest with ya. lol
If anyone gives you grief, let them know that a teddy bear with a chainsaw has your back! I have written quite a bit about the subject matter regarding my experience and have met other professionals who have verified a lot regarding the energy, drug and arms trafficking business. One certain company with Enron/GE connections kept popping up as did names (repeatedly) of quite a few individuals. This shit goes all the way to the top. So much so that one of my contacts was interviewed "by a man with a badge and a gun" after we had exposed a certain individual. Unfortunately, my contact must be under orders (NSL?) and can speak no further of what happened. We also brought material to a lady who is a State Supreme Court Judge who agrees with our findings.
That's enough for now ;-)
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