Montel Williams Calls For "Shoot To Kill" In Oregon Showdown; Militiamen Respond They Are "Ready To Fight"
In the latest development in the ongoing saga of Ammon Bundy's seizure of a Federal wildlife reuge office in Oregon, the members of the militia said they're ready to fight, but they won't say what they would actually do if federal authorities try to remove them by force as reported in the clip below.
However, while we noted the shortcomings in Bundy's latest standoff last night, what is even more notable is that as Shepard Ambellas of Intellihub points out, Montel Williams he tweeted that the National Guard should be mobilized to “kill” protesters who have currently overtaken the federal building in Burns, Oregon.
Then let's give them some - put this down using National Guard with shoot to kill orders. https://t.co/KSzUZzUor6
— Montel Williams (@Montel_Williams) January 3, 2016
Moreover USA Today has reported that “militia members used the ranchers as a ruse,” in what I and others feel may be the planed catalyst to start a civil war in America.
Monday, Rick Jervis wrote:
The Oregon sheriff whose county is at the heart of an anti-government call-to-arms said Sunday the group occupying a national wildlife refuge came to town under false pretenses.
Sheriff David Ward said protesters came to Harney County, in southeastern Oregon, “claiming to be part of militia groups supporting local ranchers.” In reality, he said, “these men had alternative motives to attempt to overthrow the county and federal government in hopes to spark a movement across the United States.”
In a statement issued Sunday afternoon, Ward said he was working with local and federal authorities to resolve the situation as quickly and peacefully as possible.
Intellihub adds that its staff has identified a few suspicious individuals who claim to stand with the militants which may attempt to provocateur, escalate, the situation further. As we noted last night, this also is a distinct possibility.
Finally, in an interesting tangent, the WaPo, which admits that there "are gun rights issues, religious overtones, broad strains of anti-government sentiment and even the tactics of the Occupy Wall Street movement" as underlying motives behind the seizure, focuses on "very particular question of how much land the government controls in the state -- the same question that animated the dispute with rancher Cliven Bundy in Nevada two years ago -- and that helped motivate Bundy's son Ammon to take a lead role in the Oregon standoff."
It then provides several charts, alongside the following analysis, to show this curious aspect of what may be the core motive behind Bundy's actions. To wit:
More than half of Oregon is owned by the federal government, with a large percentage of that land owned by the Bureau of Land Management -- an agency widely reviled in the West and known by its acronym, BLM. (Ammon Bundy was forced to clarify on Twitter that his use of "BLM" didn't refer to the Black Lives Matter movement.) Data from the U.S. Geological Survey shows the amount of federal land in the state.
(This map and the ones below only show areas of 600 or more acres held by the government.)
The takeover occurred near Malheur Lake, at a building that's part of the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge. That lake is at the upper center of the BLM's map of the surrounding area, which shows just how much is controlled by the government. (The original protests over the Hammonds' sentencing began in Burns, Ore.)
Part of the issue is that there isn't much population in the eastern part of the state. Mapping Oregon's population, you can see Portland and a corridor near the coast, which is about it. The area around the wildlife refuge has almost no population.
There's a historic link between population and federal land ownership. In 2012, the Congressional Research Service looked at the history of tensions between the government and the population out West -- particularly ranchers and farmers who, like the Hammonds and Bundys, use federal land for grazing and other purposes.
Early in the history of the country, the government took over land that was then distributed to citizens for farming and economic growth. As the United States expanded westward, the land was increasingly inhospitable, including the Rockies and the deserts of Nevada and Utah. By the end of the 19th century, a new focus was placed on conserving the land, with Yellowstone becoming the first national park in 1872. At that point, very few people lived in the area, as this 1890 Census Bureau map suggests.
Over the course of the 20th century, the government's emphasis shifted away from releasing the land to private citizens and toward managing it itself. The passage of 1976's Federal Land Policy and Management Act made that policy concrete, keeping the land as the property of the government. After the federal government's shift, there was a push from some in the West, including governors and members of Congress, to shift control from the federal to the state or local government. The Sagebrush Rebellion, as it was known, tapered off during the relative friendly administration of Ronald Reagan.
The longstanding political and legal dispute was summarized in more depth by the conservative Heritage Foundation, but the Congressional Research Service makes one additional point that's important to consider.
"From the earliest days," the CRS researchers write, "these policy views took on East/West overtones, with easterners more likely to view the lands as national public property, and westerners more likely to view the lands as necessary for local use and development."
That's one reason for the objection from Westerners. The other is that the lock-down on the land came after the East was heavily settled but before the West had been. In the East, land was turned over to farmers. In the West, settled later in the country's history, there were fewer people to hand it to.
Compare the Dakotas to Oregon, for example. In 1910, here's how the population was distributed. Even the Dakotas had pockets of population.
It's still sparsely populated.
But very little of the land is federal.
On that 1910 map, notice that Nevada has very little population -- thanks in part to its landscape being even less hospitable than the Dakotas. Its population is still small, save Reno and Las Vegas.
The vast majority of the land -- including the land around the Bundy ranch -- is owned by the government to this day.
The conclusion: "The fight isn't new, as the Congressional Research Service report notes. What's new is the way in which the broader political moment has cross-pollinated with longstanding objections to how the government manages land out West. The takeover in Oregon has its roots in the Sagebrush Rebellion. They way it's being manifested, though, is as modern as it gets."
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It remains to be seen if the National Guard will take up Montel on his "shoot to kill" advice.
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Wonder if ol Montel thinks the Black Lies terrorists should be wholesale run over when they flood the freeway. Wonder whether he advocates they be gunned down when they occupy restaurants and colleges? No!? well then golly gosh, Ol Montel seems to be nothing but a racist spouting hate.
This is the Proverbial "Pot Callng The Kettle Black." Literally.
I agree. If any of the below were changed, Montel would be supporting them:
1) Left-leaning instead of right-leaning. For example, if the protesters were animal rights activists fighting for the cows' right to graze freely, this would be okay.
2) Black or dark-skinned instead of white.
3) Armed with Molotov cocktails, rocks, bricks, or sticks instead of guns (except in the case of the Black Panthers, who can be armed with guns and still be okay because they are black).
Would they turn down solidarity and support from the Panthers ?
Armed, of course.
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Here's another one to watch. Oldie but goodie.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cikvqdMRTTA
Montel is not relevant. Asshole is trying to escalate the situation.
"Manufacturing consent for murder" - 'Murican tradition. Blame the cheesepopes!
I suppose he would say the same thing the next time we get a "Baltimore" situation.
i don't suppose he would call for the same orders to be issued in the south side of chicago
Who the fuck is Montel Williams? Never heard of him.
Believe it or not, he's an Annapolis grad.
Who's "let's" in "let's give them some..."
Too much tv football for this clown.
you know, it's the old "let's you and him fight". Fuck him and the Oprah he rode in on.
So Affirmative Action has hit Annapolis too? Sad.
A long time ago....and BIG time.
Gerrymandering
+ Congressional Appointments to the Academies
= Affirmative Action
It is not much of a stretch to say that the black members of congress only appoint blacks to the academies.
Now about Obama's education and that stint at bic international...
I graduated from Annapolis in 1998; and I can tell you that the quickest way for a white male Midshipman to get himself in deep trouble was to receive an Equal Opportunity complaint.
And the quickest way for a female or black Midshipman to get him/herself OUT of trouble was to make one.
That said, I met some really great guys (and gals) of all races, many of whom I still keep in touch with. But there were some real losers there - and it was more difficult for the administration to rid the place of the losers from - ahem - certain categories.
Just another negro with a big mouth and nothing to say...nothing to see or hear there, move along...
No, he has earned the title Nigger. Negro would be too respectful a title.
Isn't Montel busy making payday loan commercials?
Montel...
http://www.military.com/veteran-jobs/career-advice/military-transition/f...
Commissioned an ensign, he spent the next one and a half years in Guam as a cryptologic officer for naval intelligence, where he served at sea and ashore. In 1982 he was transferred to Defense Language Institute in Monterey, California, where he studied the Russian language for one year. In 1983 he was transferred to Ft. Meade in Maryland, where he worked with the National Security Agency. What Williams did there is vague, due to the sensitive nature of intelligence work, but he performed various intelligence missions. He was offshore aboard ship during the invasion of Grenada.
Interesting.
So many "celebrities" in hollyweird (working for banksters aka jews) who work(ed) for the government pushing the government line.
They give him steak and a hottie in a red dress, and he'll say whatever the fvck they want him to say...
.."you shore gotta purdy mouth" - Mr. Smith.
NSA is who he worked for . . .in a Navy uniform.
Downvote on opinions don't bother me. Downvotes on facts are annoying:
The Naval Security Group (NAVSECGRU) was an organization within the United States Navy, tasked with intelligence gathering and denial of intelligence to adversaries. A large part of this is Signals Intelligence gathering, Cryptology and Information Assurance. The NAVSECGRU organization was active from March 1935 to September 2005. In addition to being part of the Navy, NAVSECGRU was also part of the National Security Agency's Central Security Service.
The NAVSECGRU organization was transferred to the Naval Network Warfare Command (NETWARCOM) where its former assets make up the Information Operations Directorate.[1] The service cryptologic commander role was transferred to United States Tenth Fleet 29 January 2010.[2][3]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naval_Security_Group
Truth is like poetry.
While both are wonderful and beautiful there are few that want to read it, or, hear it.
They do not want the facts. They cannot counter it with a valid argument. So they junk in disgust.
Do not let it bother you, get a fantasitic high from your laughter as you count it as a win.
It is your choice to be annoyed r to enjoy it. I just let you know how you can enjoy it and I hope that it helps ya.
You write some great ideas. Do not let that bring ya down.
@ Lumbar,
So, in other words, Montel is a Scum Fuck, Propagandist , POS , PsyOp professional.
NSA Montel Williams suckering the black community into a race war they will lose badly.
Did he offer the same advice in Baltimore and Ferguson?
Montel is a black racist . . . oh wait, they can't be called that, can they?
Just another blood thirsty savage.
What is the best caliber to cure the terminally stupid?
Standard Disclaimer: http://heyjackass.com/ needs to add a new infographic.
.22 to the back of the ear works best and cheapest.
Tell that to what's left of Gabi Giffords.
First rule: headshots are ineffective on the brainless.
I'm going to Hell for laughing at that. I guess Twain was probably right though, "Heaven for the Climate, Hell for the Society."
I know, but the intense vacuum caused by the head hole can suck their brains out all the way from their asses.
Montel Williams
When has this piece of shit's opinion mattered? Never.
The douche is too busy fleecing the black man out of money using his fucked up "loan" gangster effluvium.
Fuck You Montel....seriously...fuck right off.
If they were all black he wouldn't say that.
Didn't this fucker die of Cancer 5 years ago ??? Or was THAT all his imagination
Maybe he was only sick. Seems he missed Occupy Wall Street taking over city parks, so now he's mad at Occupy Y'all Street taking over a country park. But will he pull the trigger himself?
Who in the wide world of sports is Montel Williams? And why should anybody care what comes out of his cock-holster?
Montel Williams is/was a musician/TV entertainer after being in the military (he enlisted in the Marines and later became an officer in the Navy.) He's no dunce. Those items do not mean what he says is of any special importance.
Apparently we should care what he says because he has occassionally been a featured guest on certain Faux News evening shows.
He would be more credible if he'd also made similar suggestions about the rioters in Ferguson, MO or the unruly students at the university in the same state. But those incidents involved "his people" (to borrow a phrase used by certain recent darkly complected Attorneys General), so of course he wouldn't suggest that in those cases.
Thanks! So, his opinion doesn't matter any more than mine. Fuck you Montel Williams.
He must be shooting for the role of black spokesman that Bill Cosby opened up a bit ago.
Coming on a little too hard for that role...
Wonder what he has in his closet?
The comments on British newspaper websites make me laugh. The commenters usually hate America but when people stand up to said government they hate the people standing up to the government. A lot of the comments called for a genocide. These are the same people who want America to stay out of the middle east so muslims aren't killed...
I fucking hate the sheeple. More so I hate people unable to carry a coherant moral compass
+1 for the use of "moral compass"
Standard Disclaimer: There are days I wish people's moral compass would manifest itself as a propeller attached to their head. Just to see if gravity could actually be overcome.
A lot of the comments here suggest all/any resistance against corrupt, tyrannical gov is a bad idea. The theory is gov is so corrupt, tyrannical that it stages phoney resistance against itself, therefore supporters are just falling into gov's trap.