Playing The Government’s Game: When It Comes To Violence, We All Lose
Submitted by John Whitehead via The Rutherford Institute,
“When it gets down to having to use violence, then you are playing the system’s game. The establishment will irritate you – pull your beard, flick your face – to make you fight. Because once they’ve got you violent, then they know how to handle you. The only thing they don’t know how to handle is non-violence and humor.”
- John Lennon
Yes, the government is corrupt.
Yes, the system is broken. By broken, I mean it’s “dysfunctional, gridlocked, and, in general, incapable of doing what needs to be done.”
Yes, the government is out of control and overreaching on almost every front.
Yes, the government’s excesses—pork barrel spending, endless wars, etc.—are pushing the nation to a breaking point.
Yes, many Americans are afraid. Who wouldn’t be afraid of an increasingly violent and oppressive federal government?
Yes, the citizenry has little protection against standing armies (domestic and military), invasive surveillance, marauding SWAT teams, an overwhelming government arsenal of assault vehicles and firepower, and a barrage of laws that criminalize everything from vegetable gardens to lemonade stands.
Yes, in the eyes of the American surveillance state, “we the people” are little more than suspects and criminals to be monitored, policed, prosecuted and imprisoned. As former law professor John Baker, who has studied the growing problem of overcriminalization, noted, “There is no one in the United States over the age of 18 who cannot be indicted for some federal crime.”
Yes, the United States of America is not the democracy that is purports to be, but rather an oligarchy ruled by a wealthy corporate elite.
Yes, politics is a sham. Average Americans have largely lost all of the conventional markers of influencing government, whether through elections, petition, or protest, have no way to impact their government, no way to be heard, and no assurance that their concerns are truly being represented.
Yes, the Obama administration’s efforts to identify, target and punish “domestic extremists” through the use of surveillance, corporate spies, global police and the Strong Cities network sends a troubling message to all Americans that any opposition to the government—no matter how benign—will be viewed with suspicion and will likely be treated with hostility.
Yes, we have reached a tipping point. The freedoms we once enjoyed are increasingly being eroded: speech, assembly, association, privacy, etc.
Yes, something needs to be done about the government’s long train of abuses, power grabs, erosion of private property, and overt acts of tyranny.
Yes, many Americans, increasingly dissatisfied with the government and its heavy-handed tactics, are tired of being used and abused and are ready to say “enough is enough.”
No, violence is not the answer.
A handful of armed protesters are not going to fix what’s broken in the government by forcing a showdown with government agents. In fact, this kind of scenario plays right into the government’s hands by provoking a violent confrontation that allows government officials to sanctimoniously justify their use of surveillance, military weaponry and tactics, and laws criminalizing guns and hate speech in order to target anyone who even vaguely resembles an “anti-government extremist.”
Take the latest spectacle in Oregon, for example.
Armed activists led by brothers Ryan and Ammon Bundy have occupied a federal wildlife refuge. The Bundys (infamous for their 2014 standoff with the Bureau of Land Management over grazing rights on federal land in Nevada) are protesting the government’s prosecution of two ranchers, Dwight and Steven Hammond, who have been sentenced to five years in prison for allegedly setting back fires on government-owned land in Oregon. (Mind you, the government owns more than half the land in Oregon.)
Few conflicts are ever black and white, and this situation involving the Bundys, the Hammonds and the BLM is no exception. Yet the issue is not whether the Hammonds are arsonists as the government claims, or whether the Bundys are anti-government extremists as the government claims, or even whether ranchers should have their access to government-owned lands regulated as the BLM claims.
No, as I point out in my book Battlefield America: The War on the American People, the larger question at play here is who owns—or controls—the government: is it “we the people” or private corporations?
Are American citizens shareholders of the government’s vast repositories, or are we merely serfs and tenant farmers in bondage to corporate overlords? Do we have a say in how the government is run, or are we merely on the receiving end of the government’s dictates? What recourse do we have if we don’t approve of the government’s actions?
Almost every struggle between the citizenry and the government is, at its core, about whether we are masters or slaves in this constantly evolving relationship with the government.
- Do parents have a right to allow their children to play outside alone, or must they abide by the government’s dictates about how to raise their families?
- Do homeowners have a right to manage their private property as they see fit, whether it’s with solar panels, vegetable gardens or rain barrels, or must they first seek the permission of the government?
- Do activists have a right to freely associate with one another, assemble in public, and voice their opinions publicly or privately, or must they be constrained by what the government and its corporate partners deem to be appropriate?
- Do residents of a community have to obey whatever a police officer says, lawful or not, or do Americans have a right to resist an unlawful order without getting shot or arrested?
It doesn’t matter what the issue is - whether it’s a rancher standing his ground over grazing rights, a minister jailed for holding a Bible study in his own home, or a community outraged over police shootings of unarmed citizens - these are the building blocks of a political powder keg.
Much like the heated protests that arose after the police shootings in Ferguson and Baltimore, there’s a subtext to the Oregon incident that must not be ignored, and it is simply this: America is a pressure cooker with no steam valve, and things are about to blow.
This is what happens when a parasitical government muzzles the citizenry, fences them in, herds them, brands them, whips them into submission, forces them to ante up the sweat of their brows while giving them little in return, and then provides them with little to no outlet for voicing their discontent.
As psychologist Erich Fromm recognized in his insightful book, On Civil Disobedience: “If a man can only obey and not disobey, he is a slave; if he can only disobey and not obey, he is a rebel (not a revolutionary). He acts out of anger, disappointment, resentment, yet not in the name of a conviction or a principle.”
Let me say it again: an armed occupation of a government property only plays right into the government’s hands and increases its power over the citizenry. Yet it speaks to a growing tension over how to bring about meaningful change when dealing with a government that refuses to listen to its citizens.
This is what happens when people get desperate, when citizens lose hope, and when lawful, nonviolent alternatives appear pointless.
Whether the parties involved are blameless or not, whether they’re using the wrong tactics or not, whether their agendas are selfless or not, this is the face of a nation undergoing a nervous breakdown on all fronts.
Now all that remains is a spark, and it need not be a very big one, to set the whole powder keg aflame.
The government has been anticipating and preparing for such an explosion for years. For example, in 2008, a U.S. Army War College report warned that the military must be prepared for a “violent, strategic dislocation inside the United States,” which could be provoked by “unforeseen economic collapse,” “purposeful domestic resistance,” “pervasive public health emergencies” or “loss of functioning political and legal order”—all related to dissent and protests over America’s economic and political disarray. Consequently, predicted the report, the “widespread civil violence would force the defense establishment to reorient priorities in extremis to defend basic domestic order and human security.”
In 2009, the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) released two reports, one on “Rightwing Extremism,” which broadly defines rightwing extremists as individuals and groups “that are mainly antigovernment, rejecting federal authority in favor of state or local authority, or rejecting government authority entirely,” and one on “Leftwing Extremism,” which labeled environmental and animal rights activist groups as extremists.
Incredibly, both reports use the words terrorist and extremist interchangeably.
That same year, the DHS launched Operation Vigilant Eagle, which calls for surveillance of military veterans returning from Iraq and Afghanistan, characterizing them as extremists and potential domestic terrorist threats because they may be “disgruntled, disillusioned or suffering from the psychological effects of war.” These reports indicate that for the government, anyone seen as opposing the government—whether they’re Left, Right or somewhere in between—can be labeled an extremist. Under such a definition, John Lennon, Martin Luther King Jr., Patrick Henry, Thomas Jefferson and Samuel Adams—all of whom protested and passionately spoke out against government practices with which they disagreed—would be prime targets.
Fast forward a few years, and you have the National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA), which President Obama has continually re-upped, that allows the military to take you out of your home, lock you up with no access to friends, family or the courts if you’re seen as an extremist. Now connect the dots, from the 2009 Extremism reports to the NDAA and the UN’s Strong Cities Network with its globalized police forces, the National Security Agency’s far-reaching surveillance networks, and fusion centers that collect and share surveillance data between local, state and federal police agencies.
Add in tens of thousands of armed, surveillance drones that will soon blanket American skies, facial recognition technology that will identify and track you wherever you go and whatever you do. And then to complete the circle, toss in the real-time crime centers being deployed in cities across the country, which will be attempting to “predict” crimes and identify criminals before they happen based on widespread surveillance, complex mathematical algorithms and prognostication programs.
Hopefully you’re getting the picture, which is how easy it is for the government to identify, label and target individuals as “extremist.”
All that we have been subjected to in recent years—living under the shadow of NSA spying; motorists strip searched and anally probed on the side of the road; innocent Americans spied upon while going about their daily business in schools and stores; homeowners having their doors kicked in by militarized SWAT teams serving routine warrants—illustrates how the government deals with people it views as potential “extremists”: with heavy-handed tactics designed to intimidate the populace into submission and discourage anyone from stepping out of line or challenging the status quo.
What we’re grappling with is a double standard in what the government metes out to the citizenry, and how the citizenry is supposed to treat the government.
SWAT teams can crash through our doors without impunity, but if we dare to defend ourselves against unknown government assailants, we’ll be shot or jailed.
Government agents can confiscate our homes, impound our cars and seize our bank accounts on the slightest suspicion of wrongdoing, but we’ll face jail time and fines for refusing to pay taxes in support of government programs with which we might disagree.
Government spies can listen in on our phone calls, read our emails and text messages, track our movements, photograph our license plates, and even enter our biometric information into DNA databases, but those who dare to film potential police misconduct will likely get roughed up by the police, arrested, and charged with violating various and sundry crimes.
This phenomenon is what philosopher Abraham Kaplan referred to as the law of the instrument, which essentially says that to a hammer, everything looks like a nail. In the scenario that has been playing out in recent years, we the citizenry have become the nails to be hammered by the government’s battalion of laws and law enforcers: its police officers, technicians, bureaucrats, spies, snitches, inspectors, accountants, etc.
This is exactly what those who drafted the U.S. Constitution feared: that laws and law enforcers would be used as tools by a despotic government to wage war against the citizenry.
That is exactly what we are witnessing today: a war against the American citizenry.
Is it any wonder then that Americans are starting to resist?
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Thousands of years of bad government has taught certain lessons to us (Asian) Indians. Starting from those days when our Asura rulers terrorized the population, our people have slowly evolved good defense mechanisms. Economically, it boils down to not trusting the currency of the day but to store some gold away for the apocalypse; socially, it is building endogamic population units not amenable to any outside pressure (castes); and politically it is popular agitation.
Let me tell you how it is done in India. The fundamental lesson is governments fear mass uprisings more than armed resistance of a small group. Therefore, always build a mass uprising over any issue. First, identify the offending rules, laws, systems or procedures. Then identify the man in power who can change it. Make it well known to the affected people that this is the man who can change it but is not. Vilify him. Then force him through public display of disaffection. Nowadays, this man is invariably a politician, and he fears public dissatisfaction against him. Unless you identify, and ask that man to change the 'system', the system wont respond. Attack the responsible individual, the system wakes up immediately!
That is how Gandhi gavanized the entire people against the British. He understood the asymmetry of the situation extremely well. That is why he forced the governent to react to the events on his terms. Gandhi was not the first Indian leader to do this, but the most effective one. As a society grows older it develops cynicism. It is very difficult to defeat cynical rulers. They are not afraid of any armed rebellion. They are afraid of people seeing through their game.
Theoretically, how might a subjugated people in East Berlin fight back against the Soviet government? They might withdraw cooperation with and support for Soviet authorities wherever and however safe to do so. They might look for ways to comply with rules, regulations, procedures, and laws in pedantic, excessive ways that gum up the works. They might file for every government benefit under the sun and demand every time/resource consuming government service they could.
People in East Berlin might take a cue from so many former gold owners who have encountered so many boat hull integrity issues. Widespread incidence of small, plausible damaging accidents diminishing the Soviet government's capabilities could have a substantial overall impact on the Soviet government's resources and ability to rule. These would be impossible to predict, prevent, or track down. Darn it, how did that sand get into that oil sump!
I think rather than just expressing general anger at an array of injustices, having an achievable objective toward gaining tangible freedom is important. How could the Soviet government relent to pressure put upon it even if it wanted to? The Soviet government can’t so easily force the will of a minority of East Berliners onto a majority of East Berliners, because then it would lose the support of the majority.
Ideally, the minority of East Berliners could be allowed to peacefully secede and also forswear any resources from or control by the Soviet government or the majority. That's a reasonable, grantable request. Some countries grant territorial carveouts to native groups. Others create special economic freedom zones. Good to think about what a realistic, achievable goal might look like for people seeking freedom.
If you can, watch the documentary Cartel Land, than see how bad a peoples revolt can backfire.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gkYBbBK0qoM
These guys started out with noble intent removing the low level parasites and taking back almost half their state, but in the end their own movement was taken over by Mex .gov and turned into an iron clad and armed stasi state. Now they have a cartel of militia wearing police badges running the organized crime.
ABOUT THE HAMMONDS
I'm no expert, I've never been to eastern Oregon, and I'm not a rancher. But the FACTS are getting lost here. The second fire that the Hammonds created was a back-fire intended to save their own property. They lit the fire, after lightning started a grass fire nearby. I found the words of this person "John", a Montana rancher, to be very relevant to what the Hammonds did ...
JOHN (Rancher) - "I do not understand the sentencing of the Hammonds under terrorism guidelines at all. They started a backburn on their property when fires on federal property threatened their property. I have done this growing up in Montana it is common practice especially to protect buildings or livestock. You have to very careful with it and should have plenty of people around to control it. It sounds like they lost control of it, that happened to me on a ditch burn once when the wind came up, nobody thought of pressing charges let alone calling me a terrorist. "
That speaks volumes. The enforcement of a 5-year sentence on the Hammonds is very hardline ... it certainly does give the impression of a deliberate attempt to harass the ranchers. The original sentencing looks like it was a just settlement for any grievances.
Do you want to fuck with DC? Tell the House, Senate and Congress they need to have a licence to operate in Washington DC corporation. Not taxpaper funded. The licence is retributed back to all taxpayers based on allocated salary.
Using Microsoft software TOS rules in buying seats to use licence rights, we can place this in a escrow account for redestribution to taxpayers.. If they cannot pay the 315+ million legal Americans fee to operate under the Constitution. Fired!
Bottomline, start taxing the Government as they TAX us. Watch how quickly K-Street drys up. You need a public servant to acquire a licence to pass a bill. Corporations are taxed in United States of America. Washington DC is no different.
winks
"violence is not the answer..."
Imagine if the colonists had said that back in 1776. We'd all still be subjects of the British monarchy.
"USA is not the democracy that is purports to be, but rather an oligarchy ruled by a wealthy corporate elite"
Then why is there every kind of tax and regulation imaginable against entrepreneurs, businesses and the successful ?
Then why is more than 70% of government spending on entitlement programs that buy the votes of the proletariat cockroaches ?
The author is clearly just a propagandist for proletariat coercive collectivism.
....because a hopelessly complicated tax code allows the connected to avoid the taxation, while EARNED income is taxed to oblivion. This is why the rich get richer. If you are a productive person, theft of your labor and your life by the govt is why that work will never make you financially free. And worse, the stolen wealth is then used to further the enslavement. The best solution I know of is to reduce the work you do to a level that provides for your needs without wasting to much effort to attain wealth that will be stolen...or work more, but do it in the cash market. W-2 work is bullshit.
no tyrant has ever been deposed by passivism.
on the other hand maybe Hitler would have just gone home if every one passively resisted. ya think?
Come on guys, this isn't hard. Everybody on ZH must surely have at least a tangential relationship to investing in some shape or form, no? Look at the government as a stock, the patriot movement as a short, and measure the general population's polling as market sentiment. That's all you need to know to figure this out.
Here's my recommendation on shorting the government. NSA, pay attention, this is some good shit right here. I measure the general population's support for the government, i.e., market sentiment, by national election poll participation rates. It's just that simple. As long as the majority of voters continue to buy into the bipartisan duopoly of bad management that demicans and republocrats represent, market sentiment doesn't support shorting this steamin pile of shit yet. But the first national election you have that sees a precipitous drop in voter participation spells doom for the government. When voter participation in the national election drops under 49%, it implies 51% of people have given up even hoping for Washington to have answers. That's your sentiment indicator right there.
On the other hand, like investing, you don't have to risk your neck shorting the government by squatting on their land and waiving your M16 around wildly. Most stocks will collapse if enough people simply stop buying them. Sentiment turns south, buyers dry up... all that's left is the battle between the shorts and the last stakeholders.
There ya go Feebs. I've just handed you a conceptual model that allows you to plot specific variables with which you can calculate your own demise. For free. You're fucking welcome. Enjoy the long ride to the bottom.
If you cant vote to fix the problem.
If you cant go to the courts to fix the problem.
If you cant make enough money to bribe the politicians to fix the problem.
If you cant teach your children the truth because they are probably better off being oblivious
If you cant use violence to fix the problem.
If you cant reason with the people making the problem to undo their non-sense
What options for recourse do you have?
If you do nothing, everything will just slowly but surely get worse until it hits rock bottom and falls apart on its own, who has time for that? if the collapse gets to that stage some outside power (china for example) will simply come in and fill the void the U.S. tyranny INC. left in its wake.
For the average American there is no " way out " .
Protests arent even reported anymore in this country, you could have millions of Americans protesting outside of the white house and the media will shift attention to Bruce Jenner going Transgender.
The average American will simply continue droning on trying to pay their mortgages off, and guess what? if they ever do manage to pay that fucking thing off they will get forclosed on anyway after the Govt bails in their house to bail out the banks lol
You cant win, too many idiots on food stamps to fight against, it has to collapse on its own , and it will, but most of us will be 70 years old + when it does.
What you need to do, is what the once down-trodden 2% (Jews) did: Scratch, work and scheme your/our way to the Top.
Darwinism 101. Deal with it, or be dealt by it.
No matter if it takes 100 hours or a 100 years: DO it! Just Do It!
p.s. If there were a Magic Guy in the Sky... he/it really doesn't give a shit. Thut much is blatantly and painfully obvious. You're on your own. And don't wait for some fantasy Lone Hero either. It's just us people: scheming & working together, or falling divided. The Existential Threat is fast becoming that extreme.
I'm gonna add my 2 cents to this...discussion here:
More likely than not, this so-called 'takeover' is.....a set-up by the TPTB.
The 'statistical likelihood', especially with Obummer's planned ADDITIONAL Restrictions on Firearms, just *coincidently coincide* with some shady dudes like John Ritzhammer says loads, for starters.
Domestic BackOp Replay Mode; dumb patsies and/or plants swallow the bait hook-line-and sinker.
Federal Involvement; at least 100 to 1 handsdown.
The inbreeded-mormon-bundy genome may be prolific in reproduction, but, sure hasn't produced soo many with IQ's over 100.
Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.
I
Met
The Walrus
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QfBpVn0ESqA
When It Comes To Violence, We All Lose
Well that's not entirely true...just ask the 82nd attorney General of the United States, Eric Holder....
As college student, Eric Holder participated in Armed takeover of former Columbia University ROTC office
As a freshman at Columbia University in 1970, future Attorney General Eric Holder participated in a five-day occupation of an abandoned Naval Reserve Officer Training Corps (ROTC) headquarters with a group of black students later described by the university’s Black Students’ Organization as “armed,” The Daily Caller has learned.
http://dailycaller.com/2012/09/30/as-college-sophomore-eric-holder-participated-in-armed-takeover-of-former-columbia-university-rotc-office/
Seems like this act of armed Terrorism worked out just fine for the Future Attorney General back then.
Still I wonder if he is secretly on Barry's No Fly List? Once a Terrorist always a terrorist...
Holder was at Columbia? So he CAN vouch for Obama having been there?
This whole standoff got me thinking...it is plainly obvious to the casual observer that the Federal Goverment does not care about its Local Ranchers/Beef and milk producers, so why would this be considering that this affects jobs, local economy...So we now know folks like the Hammonds and Bundys are being Terrorized off their land so the Feds can steal the Minerals underneath, but what about local food/Beef production? How is that slack taken up in the US economy?
U.S. cattle industry has beef with decision to allow Argentine imports
CNN)Good news for meat lovers: The U.S. government is lifting a 14-year ban on Argentine beef.
The United States banned the product after an outbreak of foot-and-mouth disease plagued the South American country in 2001.
The U.S. Department of Agriculture's Animal and Plant Health Inspection Service said that it was amending its previous regulations to allow the importation of fresh (chilled or frozen) beef from northern Argentina and 14 states in Brazil.
It said the countries must adhere to "specific conditions that mitigate the risk of foot-and-mouth disease."
"This is the first step of a process for these regions to gain access to the U.S. market for beef. Brazil and Argentina also need to meet food safety standards prior to being able to export any beef to the United States," the USDA said in its June 29 statement.
Read MoreArgentina's minister of agriculture, Carlos Casamiquela, said that the move would help remove barriers of trade in other countries. He said Argentina lost $1.6 billion due to the ban imposed by the United States and said that the country has had disease-free meat since 2007.
While asado enthusiasts are ecstatic about finally being able to enjoy some of the famed grilled meats, not everyone in the U.S. beef industry is pleased.
The National Cattlemen's Beef Association said it opposes the new regulation because of animal health concerns. "No trade is worth jeopardizing our herd health," it said.
The organization's president, Phillip Ellis, who owns a cattle farm in Wyoming, said the Obama administration was threatening the livelihood of hundreds of thousands of Americans.
"The actions of this administration for purely political gain threaten the very viability of our entire industry and threaten hundreds of thousands of American cattle-producing families," he said.
http://edition.cnn.com/2015/07/08/us/argentina-beef-ban-lifted/
All of the really important questions are settled at the point of the sword.
There simply is no higher authority than violence.
Violence is why you ... pay taxes, register guns, get licences, and so forth.
Fact is, you are shit-scared for 99% of your miserable lives.
You won't admit that, of course. You'll tell me that you are "public-spirited" or something equally banal; probably involving "muh, roads".
To admit that you live in fear of the State, would be to admit of your own craven cowardice. The admission would destroy you.
Now, you understand the pathology of the cop-sucker. He cannot admit to his fear, so he pretends love of his oppressor.
+100
Never a truer word spoken.
What we have here in the USSA is a Rogue Regime, no longer representative of - but, rather, inimicable to - 'We The People'... one whose criminal pathology - both foreign and domestic - metastasizes by the day.
http://www.telegraaf.nl/buitenland/24948170/__Duitsers_jagen_op_aanrande...
Happy fucking new year Germany. Sure this will appear on Prisonplanet and ZH in a day or so. Here's the early jump. Headline reads, "German Officials Hunt Assailants."
Thousands of men of reportedly "North African and Mideastern origin" went on a binge groping, fondling, robbing, stripping and assaulting women around the Cologne central train station new years eve. Reports say about 200 police officers were on the scene but stood by and basically did nothing. Police said they were afraid to antagonize the mobs. To date have received 80 reports of sexual assault and one rape. Women were groped, robbed of phones, purses, money etc.
This is getting some traction in Germany and Holland at the moment. Posts calling for people to arm themselves on European social media. That's a watershed moment for modern Europe. Can't recall this amount of violent rhetoric in my lifetime.
This is the trend across North American and Europe. The pushback begins.
Arm themselves with WHAT? Killer rabbits? Very small rocks? I wish them the best, but their social experiment did not work out well for them. Although I'm sure they enjoyed their smug enlightment while it lasted. Now they will be enjoying a generation of chocolate swirl rape babies.
Guns don't matter, much.
The will to fight is what matters.
Americans have plenty of guns ... but presently lack the will to fight. So, they are no less enslaved than the European' eunuchs.
Given the right mental attitude, arms will be found ... bought, constructed, taken. If the Europeans get their heads straight, the rest will follow.
"The will to fight is what matters"
Indeed. If European males decide to fight back seriously against the Muslim and African bullies it would be like a turkey shoot.
See this: https://www.facebook.com/IrelandFirst2015/videos/655271224612706/
An empty stomach is one hell of a motivator. So is a cold powerless house. Both are coming.
With the exception of the UK some form of firearm ownership exists across all of Europe. Shape and form of the legislation varies, but Europeans are not nearly as disarmed as MSM would have you believe. Few friends of mine in Holland and Germany own as many handguns as I do. Just have to jump through different hoops. Self defense laws are definitely trickier though, I'll give you that. Shooting someone in self-defense isn't nearly as straight-forward as in the US which applies a common law standard that goes straight back to the 13th century.
That's not my downvote btw. I only downvote Chinese wumao.
+1. not only that. illegal ownership of firearms in continental european countries is very, very high. you could call that a tradition
Re With the exception of the UK...
Not surprising. Those lickspittle pussies in the UK are always top of some freekin "Mother Knows Best" list.
lol, I would not write it that way, but lol. we see them as the "special" european country, while your's is the world's "exceptional" country, of course
ordinary "Mothers" might still know many thing better, sure. but they also have to suffer more comparisons, to their (meaning govs) chagrin
Have you ever heard of the Black Market, The Underground? How do you think full auto AK's got into France or here in the USA? You get 200 people chipping in the money they have stolen or recieved from the taxpayers through our governments and you could buy just about anything your little terroist heart desires. Then you have folks like George Soros that is willing to finance any terrorist uprising. Get your head out of your ass. It's coming whether you like it or not.
The true purpose of every kind of government is ultimately to exert violence over the population when propaganda or coercion fails to bring results beneficial for ruling elite.
The government provokes and breeds violence by confusing people about who are their true enemies, shifting responsibility and providing scapegoats for people to express their anger.
People should understand that they are being manipulated against fellow citizen and hence while nominally the protest in Oregon is justified and correctly directed against, unfortunately is founded on a flawed premise of protesting illegal pouching and cover up via suppose vegetation burn and not on an constitutional infringement.
The protest is correctly exposing true purpose of the war on terror laws to terrorize people for small infractions or without any proof of terrorism as long as they dare to justifiably challenge the deeds of the US government in context of constitutional order.
Those cowboy revolutionaries unfortunately are capable only of righteous indignation with no vision about true Pandora box they trying to open while unaware that they are being used by big oil and Wall Street corporate interests, a part of conspiration aimed in federal land grab for profit. In the real world nothing is black or white except if you’re white with a gun they listen if you black they shoot first.
More on programmatically instigated violence in the society as a method of control can be found here:
https://contrarianopinion.wordpress.com/2015/01/10/violence-of-the-lambs...
Yeah. Cos John Lennon changed the world.
Didn't he.
So we got all this shit stacked up against us and we're suppose to remain passive? We're Americans, not fucking Ghandi.
re We're Americans, not fucking Ghandi.
LOL! Rock on bro' !
"It is better to be violent, if there is violence in their hearts, than to put on the cloak of nonviolence, to cover impotence." -Gandhi (used by Hannibal in the movie 'The A-Team')
Gandhi used Pacifism as a PR Weapon to shame the Brits publicly and globally, to garner support. He was not opposed to using force when needed, and use it he did. That part was deliberately under/non-reported, as intended.
From Article: "No, violence is not the answer."
HOW THE FUCK DO YOU KNOW Violence is not the answer? When we have douche bags that dont listen and Greed that wont let go, sometimes violence among humans is the only solution? especially when those at the top suddenly go deaf? Historically in this situation its the only way things will change.. How do you deal with leaders whose only goal is to destroy you? By standing down? The propaganda team is trying to save the DICKHEADs in GOV ASS... FUCKING POLITICIANS ARE SCUM, PERIOD.. THERE IS NOT ONE GOOD POLITICIAN RIGHT NOW... NO INTEGRITY.. MAYBE IF THEY FELT THE THREAT OF THE PEOPLE THINGS MIGHT CHANGE?? I SAY RIP EVERYONE OF THEM OUT AND START OVER... BOUGHT FUCKERS!
Our government is the only threat to us right now, just ask the "Terrorists" who are doing 5 years for burning off a field? How do you fight that? BY RIPPING THEM ALL OUT! FUCK THEM!
I cant stand these FUCKHEADS. If they start to label us all Terrorist I say enough is fucking enough. FUCK EM! FUCKING COWARDS. When JUSTICE FAILS....VIOLENCE Brings BALANCE BACK!
When there is justice we dont need violence... IF YOU DONT WANT VIOLENCE BRING BACK JUSTICE. IF your an AMERICAN POLITICAN GO FUCK YOURSELF! IF justice is not restored it is clear Violence will happen, its a natural progression at this point. You can only oppress people for so long. If anyone hasnt noticed, the symptoms indicate ITS COMING!
Unfortunately more people dont realize violence is probably the only way to make change at this point, everything else is bought. PERIOD. We dont have politicians that stand up anymore, we have politicians that name their price and just take a bribe instead. Like I said NO integrity!
We need to put the Fear of God in our politicians right now!
The only reason there has been violence and problems is because of the UNJUSTNESS! Thats the Black Lives Matter BITCH/COMPLAINT? is it not? unjustness? The western land owners bitch/complaint UNJUSTNESS... seems to be a common theme lately
IF our politicians think they might be hanging from a lamp post in the near future it might just change the effectiveness of the bribes? Just a thought? A little incentive to do the "Right" Thing.
Corrupt Justice = No Justice
My Avatar is the Ultimate Symbol of UNJUSTNESS!
There are more people UNJUSTLY serving time for Weed than anything, the sum of these policies is pure waste.. The list is so fucking long at this point it would be easier to start over.
I DECLARE UNCLE SHAM, THE BLM, DHHS, NSA, FED, DOJ, THE CONGRESS AND SENATE HAVE BECOME THE REAL TERRORISTS!
How do we do that? They have the guns and armor. They live behind fences and guards.
Funny how all that goes away when people stop cooperating with them.
No God = No Justice. The two are inseparable. When man is allowed to make the rules and consequences for breaking the rules, they will always get twisted. The rules have to be established outside the authority of the players or the game will become rigged. That is why we have a timeless foundational law (rules) called the Constitution that is based on the supreme law of the Bible. Once we deviated (Civil War of 1861), the corruption got a foothold and the reality of today is the result. It is not enough to win freedom, one must know how to responsibly handle it once he gets it.
might want to check the sheer number of people killed in the name of the abrahamic evil
and then recall all the passages that speak of His love for the smell of burnt flesh.
You might want to educate yourself beyond the halls of Wikipedia. I love how you people that have never read the greatest writing ever composed and yet find a sliver from the thousands of verses to use in defending your point. You are clueless of the God of the Bible. If you knew anything outside your pea brain there might be some hope for you. Wise in your own eyes but a fool in reality.
There's a Time & Place for everything: A time for peace, joy, celebration, negotiation... a time to plow, to sow, to cultivate, to harvest, to preserve.
And there's also a time for indignation, outrage, taking a stand, taking risks, taking up arms, a time for retribution, a time for a new system.
War is 'Diplomacy by other means' -Von Clausewitz. It's taught in every military academy in the world, and applied by the DOD, NSA, CIA and Mossad on a daily basis. You knew that, right? :-)
Libertarians would do well reading the writings of Machiavelli, Sun Tsu and Von Clausewitz, than the pop claptrap or "theological relics-of-dubious-pedigree" and limited value. I also recommend reading about Attila The Hun, who was sent by his father to study in Rome, so that he could use the Roman Learning against the Romans, in the future -- which he did. IOW... don't hide or run from your enemies, but get close to them -- really close. It's what the CIA and the Mossad do daily, because the ROI is infinitely superior to hiding or running. Also start with the studying the Rothschilds, but continue with how Zionism started, evolved and became the powerhouse it is today, especially the type known as Revisionist Zionism, which Netanyahu and the Likudniks practice. And you'd best leave the Sermon On The Mount for the little kids, as this is Grown-Up talk.
In the Final Analysis, what we have here are Competing Worldviews & Agendas, with Darwinism deciding the Winners, Losers and Consumed. Think, plan and act accordingly. And note that non-action (of civic cowards*) is "defering action to another" -- whose interests and agenda are 99.9% likely to be adverse to yours. :-)
* There are many forms of courage/cowardice, with different people having different combos in different amounts: Physical, Financial/Economic, Ethical, Social, Legal, Political. It's a good exercise to take Inventory of one's own types and levels of Courage -- and to be candid about it, so we don't have to delude ourselves.
lol...more craven, disingenuous bullshit...
"...can be labeled an extremist. Under such a definition, John Lennon, Martin Luther King Jr., Patrick Henry, Thomas Jefferson and Samuel Adams—all of whom protested and passionately spoke out against government practices with which they disagreed—would be prime targets."
...Patrick Henry, Thomas Jefferson and Samuel Adams were not pacifists, they didn't draw their oppressors & tyrants closer to them so they could have a nice peaceful discussion over a mug of beer and slap each other on the back.
They drew them closer so they could grab them around the neck and slip a blade between their ribs.
perhaps OT, perhaps not: how about the American Temperance Society? was that one... extremist? it got a constitutional amendment through, for a while
This is sarcasm, right? That's a list of people who were murdered by the State, or marked for murder by the State.
You all still paying your taxes?
Just sayin...
Im really starting to consider? Its one alternative to violence!
Clearly non taxpayers are terrorists.