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Dow Futures Plunge 170 Points After Yuan Crashes To 5-Year Lows As PBOC Loses Control

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Dow futures are down over 170 points from the cash close, testing the lows of the day following carnage in the Chinese currency markets. Despite the biggest drop in onshore Yuan since August devaluation, Offshore Yuan has collapsed to its lowest since September 2010. What is more worrisome (or positive for Kyle Bass) is that the spread between onshore and offshore Yuan has blown out to 1250 pips - a record - indicating dramatic outflows and/or expectations of further devaluation to come.

Yuan is in free-fall... Offshore Yuan is down over 400 pips from intraday highs, testing 6.6800

 

CNH-CNY spread is now over 1320 pips - as it appears The PBOC is losing control.

And although Chinese stocks are "stable" thanks to some National Team play...

 

US equity futures are tumbling off the bounce close, trading back near the day's lows...

 

It appears Kyle Bass was right:

"Given our views on credit contraction in Asia, and in China in particular, let's say they are going to go through a banking loss cycle like we went through during the Great Financial Crisis, there's one thing that is going to happen: China is going to have to dramatically devalue its currency."

And it is - sanctioned by The IMF...

 

Charts: Bloomberg

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Tue, 01/05/2016 - 21:29 | 7002810 johngaltfla
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Actually it was the North Korean Nuke Test that caused the plunge. Dive hit the minute it hit the wires.

01.05 21:05 ET – BREAKING NEWS – 5.1 Earthquake Near N. Korea Nuke Test Site
Tue, 01/05/2016 - 22:03 | 7002922 remain calm
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The plunge team will have the markets green by the close.

Tue, 01/05/2016 - 22:21 | 7002989 yellensNIRPles
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----> markets green tomorrow

----> markets red tomorrow

Tue, 01/05/2016 - 22:59 | 7003125 Osmium
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How about by the open.  Were down 170, now down 140.

Tue, 01/05/2016 - 23:28 | 7003214 MFL8240
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The market is a courrpt instrument used to determine the economy.  It is not accurate in any respect compliments of Bernanke/Yellen.

Wed, 01/06/2016 - 00:18 | 7003350 Soul Glow
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It's costing the world tens of billions of dollars per day to keep the markets flat.  That is not a good ROI.

Wed, 01/06/2016 - 00:47 | 7003401 stant
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I like that. The damage control is losing steam

Wed, 01/06/2016 - 08:25 | 7003944 Debt-Is-Not-Money
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Now dow(n) 305.

Down and down it goes.

Where it stops, nobody knows!

Tue, 01/05/2016 - 22:26 | 7003003 i_call_you_my_base
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Disagree. It dropped .5% at the devaluation, fell further after.

Wed, 01/06/2016 - 01:04 | 7003416 Perimetr
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Sum Ting Wong !!!

Tue, 01/05/2016 - 21:30 | 7002813 Kamehameha
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Like I keep saying, there is going to be no economic collapse.  Nothing to see here, move on.

 

Tue, 01/05/2016 - 22:11 | 7002961 gatorengineer
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I dont think there will be an economic collapse just a prolonged economic crumble.....  If you had a time machine and transported yourself three years back in time and then fast forwarded to today, by all objective measures it would be an economic collapse.  in three more years now will look like a boom time in hindsight.  the only thing that matters is that the keep the illusion of the stawk market up.... if they loose control of that, then there will be hell to pay.  the sheep are stirring....

Tue, 01/05/2016 - 23:08 | 7003160 sun tzu
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Not until almost everybody is fully invested in the markets and real estate

Wed, 01/06/2016 - 08:50 | 7004103 Iam_Silverman
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"Not until almost everybody is fully invested in the markets and real estate"

Well, I'm fully invested in my real estate (loan completely paid off).  Can the collapse start now?

Tue, 01/05/2016 - 21:30 | 7002816 IridiumRebel
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STEADY THE PLUNGE PROTECTION TEAM.
I NEED A GREEN HARD ON BY MORNING

Tue, 01/05/2016 - 21:32 | 7002823 motorollin
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Hory fuck

Tue, 01/05/2016 - 21:43 | 7002854 FreeShitter
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Exproding Ecronomeeeeeeeeeeeeee mudafucka

Tue, 01/05/2016 - 22:09 | 7002954 Hitlery_4_Dictator
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+400 on Wednesday

Wed, 01/06/2016 - 00:44 | 7003396 Fish Gone Bad
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Thursday the market is down, Friday the market shoots higher on payrolls.  Payrolls can be up, down, or "just right".  Doesn't matter. That is what happened in Setember, October, and November.

Tue, 01/05/2016 - 21:34 | 7002831 Yen Cross
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   The Chinese politburo clearly needs to kidnap MOAR short sellers.

Wed, 01/06/2016 - 00:49 | 7002987 stant
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Better not have kidnaped wb7 or hillbilly hells comin

Wed, 01/06/2016 - 06:45 | 7003738 DownWithYogaPants
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Oh noes! You gonna go oveh line with that. Talk to you lateh.  I gotta go mastah brake get car fixit.

Tue, 01/05/2016 - 21:34 | 7002833 nmewn
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"Stupid running capitalist dogs, we can Keynesify our currency much faster than you can!" - Vice Public Security Minister Meng Qingfeng

CC: Thomas Friedman ;-)

Tue, 01/05/2016 - 21:36 | 7002834 abyssinian
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It will be green by tomorrow's close

Tue, 01/05/2016 - 22:39 | 7003053 sun tzu
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Green by tomorrow's open

Tue, 01/05/2016 - 21:36 | 7002837 max2205
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Time to get into the time machine 

Tue, 01/05/2016 - 21:45 | 7002863 FreeShitter
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1983 Ratt/Motley Crue concert in L.A    big tits, booze, and no fucks given.

Tue, 01/05/2016 - 22:39 | 7002956 Hitlery_4_Dictator
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haha Freeshitter you are the man! Everyone needs to contact Greg Abbott and say stand up to Obama. I just did. https://gov.texas.gov/contact/

 

PS my first concert was Black Sabbath 1995. Big Motely Crue fan too.

Tue, 01/05/2016 - 21:44 | 7002858 Baby Eating Dingo22
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No worries

Getting a rise out of something every day gives Janet's poontang the sound and sensation of cold milk over Rice Krispies

She'll never stop

Tue, 01/05/2016 - 21:46 | 7002865 44MagnumPrepper
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Malus, I am your father...

Tue, 01/05/2016 - 22:07 | 7002946 kerfuffled
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that's what she said

Tue, 01/05/2016 - 21:47 | 7002873 Baby Eating Dingo22
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WTF

ZH edited their headline

 

Tue, 01/05/2016 - 21:54 | 7002901 44MagnumPrepper
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Not unusual with a breaking story

Tue, 01/05/2016 - 21:58 | 7002906 nmewn
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Yes, House Rules. However you got exactly what you paid for!

And ya gotta admit, the commentary is much more diverse & thought provoking than Bloomberg or MSNBC! ;-)

Tue, 01/05/2016 - 21:52 | 7002877 NotApplicable
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#winning

any day now, I'm expecting Dow futures to announce that it too is HIV positive

Tue, 01/05/2016 - 21:50 | 7002881 One And Only
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Listen folks Orange Chicken is still the shit.

Tue, 01/05/2016 - 22:31 | 7003012 Mr. Universe
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I tried to order some of General Tso's chicken but his wife said he went for a smoke and she hasn't seen him in a week. 

Wed, 01/06/2016 - 06:47 | 7003741 DownWithYogaPants
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It that chicken Dorito Orange? 

Well even if so it is better the Boehner Orange.  Cause if you ever had a an Orange Boehner before you know how painful that can be.

Tue, 01/05/2016 - 21:54 | 7002883 atthelake
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It's, almost, 10 pm. Yahoo Finance has Nasdaq, S & P 500 and Dow Futures on. I've never seen that, at 10 pm, the day before. It's getting interesting.

If you don't have all your stuff, WalMart delivers free for a $50 minimum order.

Tue, 01/05/2016 - 22:14 | 7002968 gatorengineer
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Boy that is weird on Yahoo.....

Maybe the meme is changing to crash it enough to require socialism to save us?

 

Tue, 01/05/2016 - 21:57 | 7002905 pizzedoff
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But But But The Green Shoots are flying out of Yellens Arse as Rome burns around her

Tue, 01/05/2016 - 22:38 | 7003048 Wulfkind
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Just a LITTLE too much info, my friend.

"HONEY....do we have any more Mind's Eye Bleach in the house ? "

Tue, 01/05/2016 - 23:53 | 7003281 OldPhart
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How about plain ol' eye bleach?

http://www.eyebleach.com/

 

Wed, 01/06/2016 - 06:53 | 7003748 DownWithYogaPants
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Well that was relaxing but now I have stiff muscle.

 

Tue, 01/05/2016 - 22:48 | 7003086 Golden Phoenix
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Those aren't green shoots, those are hemorrhoids. Her Romulan blood is copper based lending them the nice green tinge.

Tue, 01/05/2016 - 22:03 | 7002924 nmewn
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"Thank goodness the yaun is recognized stable money now or Keynesian Theory could take a major hit in respectability!" - Vice Public Security Minister Meng Qingfeng ;-)

Tue, 01/05/2016 - 22:11 | 7002960 Ajax_USB_Port_R...
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Obama took care of the 'gun problem' earlier today. Tomorrow, he'd better give a speech on the economy.  Maybe redo that "focus on the economy like a laser beam" speech he did a few years ago. So inspirational.

Tue, 01/05/2016 - 22:12 | 7002964 stant
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Obama gots some splaing to do, take our guns . While he let the world turn to shit on his watch

Tue, 01/05/2016 - 22:15 | 7002970 gatorengineer
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taking your gun.... fixed it for ya....

Tue, 01/05/2016 - 22:51 | 7003099 Golden Phoenix
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Obama only gives guns to people he trusts like Al Qaeda and ISIS so they can fight their oppressive government. What fool would trust lawful American citizens with guns and Second Amendment rights? What could they possibly need guns for?

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