Internal War Is Now On The Horizon For America
Submitted by Brandon Smith via Alt-Market.com,
If internationalists were to get their way fully with the world and future historians write their analysis from a globalist perspective of the defunct American nation, they will probably say simply that our collapse was brought about by our own incompetence - that we were our own worst enemy. Yes, they would treat America as a cliché. They will of course leave out the destructive influences and engineered disasters of elitists, that would just complicate the narrative.
My hope is that we do not prove these future historians correct, and that they won’t have an opportunity to exist. My work has always been designed to help ensure that resistance thrives, but also that it is pursued in the most intelligent manner possible.
As I write this, China’s stock market has crashed 7% and was shut down by Chinese authorities who are once again initiating outright intervention to stem the tide. U.S. markets are quickly tracking lower. Oil is plummeting.
Relations between Saudi Arabia and Iran have turned ugly, with Iranian protesters overtaking the Saudi embassy and both sides vowing vengeance. Many Americans won’t care much about this because they think it has nothing to do with them. They don’t realize that Saudi Arabia has already publicly suggested a depeg from the U.S. dollar, effectively ending the decades-long relationship between the greenback and oil. The Iranian event and U.S. ties to both nations only make the fall of the dollar’s petro-status more likely in the near term. With the U.S. in the middle, "taking a side" will be a demand. I believe the U.S. government will NOT take a side, and this will elicit a furious response from Saudi Arabia (a currency depeg).
The Obama Administration has just made introductory announcements on new gun control measures through executive order. These announcements were rather light on details and heavy on crocodile tears. Their vagueness is clearly deliberate. Psychological evaluations, redefining who is a lawful firearms dealer, "expanding" background checks; all of these measures could be interpreted broadly to mean almost anything. We will probably know more in the coming weeks.
And in Oregon over the weekend, Ammon Bundy and friends lured hundreds of protesters under false pretenses using the Hammond family tragedy as a vehicle to then initiate a takeover of federal buildings that have no strategic or symbolic value, boxing themselves into a static position and proclaiming themselves to be the “tip of the spear” in the fight against corrupt government. In the meantime, anyone who questions the validity of this idea or the logic behind the “plan” is immediately labeled a coward and “keyboard warrior” by their supporters. Emotionally manipulative arguments abound because there are no tactically rational arguments to be made, which tells me that the plan was doomed before it was implemented.
As I wrote in my article “Oregon standoff a terrible plan that we might be stuck with,” some people (not many but some) in the liberty movement are desperately clamoring for a fight; and they don’t care if the circumstances are intelligently executed or idiotically executed. They only care if it kicks off.
I openly supported and aided the efforts at Bundy Ranch because the ranchers were defending their home from clear federal aggression. The Feds were direct invaders in that scenario. In Oregon, protesters are being perceived as the invaders, not the defenders — and all launched in the name of the Hammond family, who asked them NOT to artificially create a standoff. The two scenarios are polar opposites, and Oregon will end in a very different fashion.
I would just like to note that the Founding Fathers were smart enough to avoid deliberately trapping themselves in static positions on land that had no strategic or symbolic importance while inviting the British to "come and get them". Again, there are right ways and wrong ways to fight tyranny. Simply being willing to fight is not enough.
Now, if Americans are going to create standoff situations that could result in civil war they should do it over draconian gun control measures such as the use of classified government watch lists as grounds for denial of 2nd Amendment rights, rather than using a family who did not want armed support to begin with as a means to an end.
Keep in mind that watch lists are entirely arbitrary. There is no due process involved whatsoever, meaning you or I could walk into a gun store one day only to have our 4473 form denied because some bureaucrat in an office in D.C. decided we said something he doesn’t like and belong on a naughty list. The changing of gun dealer laws could be used to erase gun shows and private sales of firearms as well.
A standoff scenario based on these issues would be a much more practical concept than what is taking place in Oregon.
As our situation in this country becomes more precarious, there are going to be far more flashpoints than anyone will be able to keep track of. It is inevitable that a fight between corrupt elements of the U.S. government and regular people will erupt. I and other analysts have been warning people about this for years. I have been educating people on their preparedness options and tactical resources. I have been promoting community preparedness teams in my work with Oath Keepers and helping to organize such teams in my own part of the country. I even designed the first working thermal evasion suit available to civilians to give people half a chance against advanced weaponry. I have no illusions that a peaceful solution exists. I know that there is no such solution at this point in the game. But when the fighting starts, I also know that those who navigate the storm intelligently rather than allowing their emotions to get the best of them are more likely to survive and succeed.
I cannot say how quickly a crisis will develop. But, I can outline some of the many pitfalls you are going to come across as this storm rises.
False Leadership And Irrational Leadership
You are going to stumble across numerous gung ho activists and even politicians who will claim they have the one and only solution, that they are the real “tip of the spear.” First, if you feel compelled to seek out leaders on the mere basis that they have offered to lead you, then you need to do some soul searching. Become your own leader first. And then, if you meet someone with an excellent plan and a principled motive, give him the time of day, but don’t jump blindly into any situation.
If his plan seems poorly thought out, don’t follow him. If his agenda revolves around his own ego and a desire for personal glory, don’t follow him. If he focuses completely on the Obama administration and ignores the complicity of Republican leadership, don’t follow him. If all he talks about are the evils of the federal government but he ignores the puppet strings that lead to international banks and globalist organizations, don’t follow him. If he refuses to allow his initiatives to be questioned or discussed in a reasonable way, do not follow him. If he acts as if his ideas are sacrosanct and questions your “patriotism” when you do not immediately jump on the bandwagon, do not follow him. Remember, it is the job of this leadership to CONVINCE YOU of the legitimacy of their plan if they are seeking your support. The burden of evidence is on them. It is not your job to support them blindly just because you want to avoid being called a "sunshine patriot".
To summarize, if you are going to follow someone, know him well first, and make sure his planning is solid.
Hotheads And Imbeciles
I’ve found that there are two very frustrating extremes within the liberty movement: the people who embrace pacifism and who refuse to even consider the possibility of a violent conflict and self-defense, and the people who have delusions of being the next George Washington and are ready to dive headlong into any violent confrontation without thinking because they want to cement their own legacy. Neither of these groups seems to be able to treat each event as unique: some events requiring a diplomatic approach and some of them requiring the violence of action.
The pacifists are annoying, but they mostly hurt themselves in their lack of preparedness and a warrior’s mindset. The hotheads are the real problem. If you are only looking for a fight, then one will certainly find you; but any moron can trigger a standoff with the Feds. The point is to be able to make a move that matters in the long run. Hotheads cannot think beyond themselves and their immediate needs. They are like mosquitoes mindlessly hunting for blood. Strategic planning is impossible for them and they will destroy allies in the process of their pursuits.
I hate to say it, but there is a distinct possibility that our current generation of freedom advocates and freedom fighters may not live to see the future we are working toward. That better world built on liberty, individualism and voluntary community is something our children will thrive in, not us. If you are not fighting with a long term strategy in mind, then you have missed the entire point.
Factions And Tribes
Humans in crisis events tend to become more tribal in their associations in order to survive, and this is not necessarily a bad thing. I would rather live in a tribal world than under centralized corrupt government or global government any day. That said, if a “tribe” or faction does not respect the rights of the individual or uses unprovoked violence to achieve its goals, then it is no better than any other tyranny. Never trade safety for tyranny, regardless of the difficulties ahead.
The upside is tyrants of small tribes are easier to deal with than tyrants of large nations. They are no more bulletproof than anyone else, and they don’t have the resources to prevent reprisal if they hurt the wrong people.
Expect that families, neighborhoods, towns, churches, gangs and activist groups will rally around each other as a way to provide security. If you do not already have friends and family on board with your way of thinking, you will be isolated, making survival far more difficult if a breakdown does occur.
Governments Will Not Disappear
I can think of very few scenarios in history in which a crisis or collapse immediately facilitated the fall of the government in power. Rather, the government usually morphs into something else, something more dangerous. In fact, crisis is often the prime excuse used by corrupt officials to rationalize greater controls on the population. This in turn acts as a catalyst for more rebellion, which in turn acts as a vindication of the government’s tyranny.
Does this mean people should not rebel against tyranny? No, it means that we have to fight smart and retain the moral high ground at all times. We must act in a way that exposes the true nature of corrupt government, rather than giving them more ammunition to shoot us down with in the public eye. Above all, if we fight we must fight TO WIN. This means not deliberately searching for an Alamo. Martyrs are ultimately useless in this kind of war because if we lose, no one will remember them anyway. Glory seekers and self-proclaimed prophets will only lead people to disaster.
Develop a tactical mindset because the future will require tactical minds. Maintain your principles no matter the threats ahead. Retain your humanity. But also, when the fight begins, fight with the intention of victory. Choose your ground wisely.
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And on top of that we have:
"Lakers" vs "Chickago Bulls", "Chargers" vs "Steelers" and on and on fans.
Horseshit. Greece doesn't have 350-500 million guns.
Greece doesn't have any instances like Bundy Ranch or Oregon.
Greece is in no way indicative to the laser like anger most Americans have.
Modern greeks are fucking wankers. They deserved what they got.
The next American Revolution , I believe, will be Socialism
with a heart
& an evolution from Adam Smith
i.e.
Trickle Down Economy is Junked
and
Free Money to All Citizens
Trump , Do you read ?
Do it & WIN by big vote
& then history will remember you always as the man who brought the revolutionary idea into practice
you will be remembered similar to Adam Smith
Your name will shine always in the textbooks of history, economics & management
Trump , Do you read ?...
Let me guess, you have a ton of student debt and are having trouble servicing it as a barista. Your hopes are life will be better when you get the state job with the health care and public employee union retirement benefits tied to the profits generated by utility stocks.
It all works until the utility company gets fined for incompetence and goes to the state to raise rates to pay the fines the state issues so it can still make the guaranteed profit needed for the pensioners.
This is why Jerry Brown only appears to be watching Con Ed from the sidelines, (well, that and his personal ties of ownership of the company spewing 7 million cars worth of pollutants into the air a day.)
http://www.breitbart.com/california/2015/12/21/jerry-brown-another-energ...
In case you haven't noticed, the USA is at least as far down the road of socialism as any other place on earth.
It's also funny how that ownership / capitalist thing comes back to bite the very rear ends of the folks most responsible for the fomenting of anger against it.
jmf.
Fom Nasa:
http://www.theguardian.com/environment/earth-insight/2014/mar/14/nasa-ci...
"the economic stratification of society into Elites [rich] and Masses (or "Commoners") [poor]" These social phenomena have played "a central role in the character or in the process of the collapse," in all such cases over "the last five thousand years."
".... appears to be on a sustainable path for quite a long time, but even using an optimal depletion rate and starting with a very small number of Elites, the Elites eventually consume too much, resulting in a famine among Commoners that eventually causes the collapse of society. It is important to note that this Type-L collapse is due to an inequality-induced famine that causes a loss of workers, rather than a collapse of Nature."
So the Pigs just eat too fuckin' much
Or put another way. The parasite is the apex predator.
Looks like "Kill or Be Killed", literally.
I disagree. This is no time to seize defeat from the jaws of victory. FTSE100 saw greater losses in these early weeks of 2016 than all of 2015.
The Rothschild led City of London still rules the money world. Let them suffer more by their own hands. See them get weaker.
Then reclaim the USA, and the world will be a better place.
End the Fed.
Guys, those people haven't lost a cent.
Fools lose $ because they still have paper assets. No rational person has had paper assets for a long period of time. This kind of bubble is how fortunes are lost.
This is the world-wide Greater Depression.
True.
V... It's a zero sum game. I recently watched The Big Short (it's online now) and I knew bits and peices of the story and how it ended. However, the movie filled in the missing links of mass corruption and zero justice toward the slumbering taxpayers that got royally screwed in the end. Waiting to see what these money whores have in store for us this year. Usury always brings greed and corruption and right now it has gone full retard.
I would just like to note that the Founding Fathers were smart enough to avoid deliberately trapping themselves in static positions on land that had no strategic or symbolic importance while inviting the British to "come and get them". Again, there are right ways and wrong ways to fight tyranny. Simply being willing to fight is not enough.
What was the first act of the Revolutionary War?
An undermanned militia company facing off against a short brigade of the British composed of the elite wing elements of Gage's entire force, backed by artillery, and outnumbering them perhaps six to one or more. With a relief column coming up fast from behind.
Okay, moving on...
Ever heard of the Battle of Bunker Hill?
This was a classic example of exactly the opposite of what Mr. Smith claims. Not only did the Patriot force dig in and dare the British to come get them, but they did so in a position that was utterly exposed to a simple British landing in their rear that would have bagged the entire outfit at no cost whatsoever to the King. That the British triumvirate of generals elected to attack head-on for reasons of hubris does not disguise the tactical idiocy of the Patriot position.
How about the defense of New York City, a position completely exposed to the maneuvers of the Howe brothers on land and at sea. I suppose it could be argued that this was a position of symbolic importance but it was militarily indefensible and Washington's army was practically destroyed due to the folly of making a stand in yet another position exposed to British seapower.
How about the loss of Forts Washington and Lee guarding the Hudson? Another fiasco that came about from challenging British forces head-on.
What about the insane, politically-motivated decision to hold Charleston despite the military misgivings of the garrison commander, General Benjamin Lincoln?
The reason why the Swamp Fox and Mel Gibson were so tricksy was because the regular Continental Army forces in the South had been surrounded and starved into surrender at Charleston.
Eventually, of course, it was Lord Cornwallis who found himself trapped in a position of no strategic or symbolic importance at Yorktown but his downfall was entirely due to the Comte De Grasse's fleet lying at anchor in the Virginia roads.
War is never a one-size-fits-all business. Operations must be tailored both to the means at hand and the objectives in mind. No one solution covers every single case.
Patriots must stay steady, not stampeded; blind with emotion. You may dislike the colonists, but they won.
Mr. Smith clearly knows very little about the Continental Army or how it managed to win a war against the mightiest empire of its day.
'War is never a one-size-fits-all business. Operations must be tailored both to the means at hand and the objectives in mind. No one solution covers every single case.'
Good point.
'Remember the Alamo.'
Yes, and keep it firmly in historical context.
Texans are very proud of the Alamo but seem to have completely buried Goliad.
Never happened. Nope. Nosiree.
I believe 'The Donald' is gonna be using it in his next ad campaign.
It's not the size of the dog in the fight, it's the size of the fight in the dog. . . The most powerful anger is the type you build brick by brick, slowly, methodically. If you can keep it from consuming you, it is an extremely powerful source of motivation. The type that sees one through a Valley Forge winter.
To be honest, I expect to see victory after a long, hard struggle.
But it is important to keep in mind the type of peace we would like to have afterwards.
Dont know about you, but nothing brings peace for me like some heads on stakes and Gucci loafers jingling like wind chimes as their former owners swing gently from some stout oak trees.
That would give me some peace !!!!
With malice toward none, with charity for all,
With firmness in the right as God gives us to see the right.
A. Lincoln
And what is to be done with the leaders of the rebel host? I know what I would do if I were President. I would arrest them as traitors, try them as traitors, and hang them as traitors.
VP Andrew Johnson
Let us have peace.
Campaign slogan of US Grant
When this is over, you can depend upon me for my last cracker. But until then we are enemies.
W.T. Sherman
Somebody doesnt understand how combat works. If some group of arrogant fuckers pushes me to risk my life AND forces me to organize to kill them so I can enjoy my God-given liberties, I'm gonna see some swinging from trees, and I'm going see some heads on stakes. So help me God.
I share your desire to see liberty returned to its proper seat at the head of the table. I wish to see that happen as swiftly as possible and with as little cost in human misery as can be achieved.
If it were possible to persuade the opponents of freedom to leave off their oppression in return for some deal that spares their miserable lives, it would be better for the nation in the end-- even if it were not so personally satisfying to those who survive the fearful trip. Maximizing the numbers who survive the ordeal and shortening it as much as can be obtained through wise strategy is my desire.
When it comes to combat, the best strategy is to wage war completely, and crush your enemy as soon as you can . . . until they unconditionally surrender. The US was right to firebomb Dresden and nuke Japan. Give your enemy no quarter, no respite, no mental safe harbor. I want him worrying about the safety of his loved ones, his home, and his dog.
The original Civil War in the USA was fought when the population was about 31 million people. At that time, there was enough farmland, and open land with no settlements, that people could always fall back on basic survival techniques.
We are nowi n the year 2016 and there are almost 320 million Americans. All the land is accounted for, and it is NOT possible for all Americans to use basic survival to keep their families alive. We are no longer living in the land of Davy Crockett or Wyatt Earp.
Get this reality straight. The only way that America has a future is if we put Americans back to work with real productive jobs. The current management of our economy is NOT getting the job done., But anyone who proposes war - any type of war - is also going in the wrong direction. We can't afford internal war. Too many people will die.
The American dilemma today is that the country needs to reform itself, but the System is resisting all the necessary changes.
Just the same, war is not the answer.
What makes you think that all Americans care about America or the Constitution and the Bill of Rights?
Ah. I get it. You think there are rights without responsibilities. The same attitude that makes endless war abroad, and poverty at home.
Bowing down to failed banks, and their failed career politicians.
End the Fed.
Hang them.
YES.
Afghanistan 1000X. A civil war will leave us looking like Syria or Iraq. Stupid and unnecessary.
We can take down the government at will without hurting anyone. This country is balanced on a very high needle of technological infrastructure. There is a guy going around digging up fiber optic cables, the routes of which are public info and well-marked. Annoying when it is one person, a problem if it were a dozen in an area, and a big problem if 100s over the country.
Airports, long-distance power transmission, 400KV transformers (bullets will cause them to explode, if sufficiently penetrating. A guy in CA tried that recently, small caliber gun didin't work).
Shooting people as a way of changing things is inefficient and has bad side-effects.
The government will take itself down, society will shortly follow, at least this version of it...
Why would you want to destroy technology this way?
If a society has a minority powerful enough to completely disrupt it if not given rights, they have to be dealth with. If their tactics are such that they can't be coerced, the dealing has to be negotiation.
Nobody wants to destroy things, there are NO terrorists except for gov. We know that because this high-tech world goes on working, when any 2 individuals can cause $1B in losses because of world-wide disruption of traffic, and do it without any risk to themselves.
(How, is trivial, magic pixie dust, left as an exercise for the reader.)
And etc. Shooting is inefficient and relatively ineffective, has bad side-effects on your future.
There is a lot worse someone could do that can read plans, instead of digging up fiber or hitting transformers, and much easier. I won't give anyone any bright ideas, but its also another reason I know there are no terrorists here that are going to do any real harm. I mention it sometimes when I go hiking with buddies and they look horrified, but I say, see how easy this is to do, and yet it never has happened.
BTW not all the big fiber cables coming in are marked on any plans (State/City). I assume that was done on purpose. I was working on plans for something that I kept getting warned on, to not touch, but no one knew where the stupid cable was located, just a general idea. So whomever is using marked public plans doesn't know what they are doing, as I am sure those are redudant.
Electric supply infrastructure obviously as mentioned HT cables etc.
NG pipelines
Derailing trains (bigger thing in Europe)
Waste water blockages
Water supply pipelines
Motorway blockages
All centralised systems, like government, or cities are vulnerable. We are governed by our own consent.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H6b70TUbdfs
I think war is not the answer simply because it is unwinnable, but your solution is no better. Any advocate for the continuation of wage slavery is automatically wrong.
"We can't afford internal war. Too many people will die."
Lots of people need to die.
On a long enough timeline the survival rate for everyone drops to zero.
You're right: War is not the Answer.
But it may be part of the Solution.
;-)
Anyone who wants this has not thought it through. While it may seem to be romantic to strut around in your camouflage with your AK slung over your shoulder, dying in the mud with your family starving behind you will shatter such dreams. I want peace not war. Having said that I will not succumb to disarmament because as a historian, I know what comes next.
Detroit has peaked. New York has peaked. And D.C. will peak. Be patient. Less government is coming.
So when these Liberty guys finally overthrow the government from their birdwatching bunker in Oregon, does that mean Aamon will be our new President and then a run off between the fake Marine and the drunk guy for VP?
What's sad is that many of you aren't even paid to spout this drivel. You do it out of devotion to your masters, because you think you are better slaves than other people.
in the old days they were called house niggas...
Endless fantasy and self-delusion on this site about big regime changes.
Americans are as close to civil war or revolt against the regime as they are to the center of the galaxy.
PLUS more than 1/2 the population LOVES the regime and depends upon it for income, food, housing, healthcare, phones, etc.
What halucinogenic drugs are you idiots taking ???
Yes but the other half doesn't.
The other half think they will love the regime the next time round.
The other half you refer to is doing NOTHING that will result in regime change.
Unless the TVs and iThingies are turned off, there cannot be any ACTION by Americans to change anything.
I'd find it hilarious if the feds just ignored the idiots in Oregon and those guys just hung around bored to death until they got tired of doing nothing and went home.
I sincerely hope they are ignored long enough to eat the invasive carp but not long enough to damage the bird habitat. And I hope nobody else rises to this provocation.
Reversal: what would happen if we all just ignored the feds?
Next April 15th, why not just sit back and relex! ;) They dont need your tax dollars. Hell, they can conjure more in less time than it takes to e-process your return.